Episode 4121: Wray Surrenders to Trump
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Ray Kelly resigns as FBI Director. What does this mean for the future of the agency and what will it look like under the new director, Kash Patel? Special Agent in Charge of the Joint Improving Relationships Division, Mika, joins Alex to discuss.
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Ray did not have to do this. I want to be very clear here. Trump hired him to serve a 10-year term.
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That's the law. This isn't just plucked out of thin air. In fact, the law was passed in 1976
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with overwhelming bipartisan support, and it was part of the post-Watergate government reforms.
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It says clearly, the term of service to the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
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shall be 10 years, and a director may not serve more than one 10-year term.
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Now, the reason we have those term limits, and the reason we try to insulate FBI directors
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from presidential appointments, is, of course, J. Edgar Hoover, who ran the FBI and its precursor
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for almost half a century until his death in 1972.
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There's thousands of people in the FBI. I think folks at the Hoover building are probably,
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you know, worried about the fact that Kash Patel says he wants to evacuate the building
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and turning it into a museum of the deep state. But as a whole, you have an FBI that is
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pretty conservative politically, I think it's fair to say, maybe one of the more conservative
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arms of the U.S. federal government. And that email and who the deputy director,
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who is going to be the deputy director, and what is that email he got?
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Yeah, so Paul Abade is the deputy, but he got this email very shortly after January 6th saying that,
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you know, Fox News is on and a lot of our various field offices saying that essentially a lot of
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people were supportive of what happened. And there is this contingent, especially it's a group that I've
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learned is pretty closely connected to Kash Patel of the so-called suspendables who have really been
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working pretty closely with Kash Patel. So, I mean, there is definitely a contingent within the FBI of people
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who are just kind of not happy with the way that things are going and supportive of Donald Trump
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in general and supportive of major reforms. You have a group of individuals outside of the bureau,
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now former FBI special agents who, you know, really do want the FBI sort of busted up and
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Chris Wray had a chance to stay in there and fight like Jay Powell, who said, I'm not going anywhere.
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And the thing about Donald Trump is we've seen in the past, a lot of times he will push up to the line
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and hold and wait. Shouldn't Wray have stayed in there for the sake of history? So history would record
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that Donald Trump fired two FBI directors, unprecedented, one of them, an FBI director that
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I think he should have stayed 100 percent. We were counting on him, too. You know, everybody's
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got to kind of hit the barricades right now and do what's best for the country, not what's best for
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themselves or what's best for an agency. And I thought this was a unique opportunity to have a
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one of those guardrails. We have so few that at least there would be a continuity there in FBI so
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things wouldn't go harem scarum right after the inauguration. But alas, now Trump's going to get
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the FBI. And that's if there is such a thing as a Department of Revenge and Retribution,
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that's where it's going to be emanating from, from Kash Patel and the people he brings in.
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And I think it's unfortunate that Ray could have stayed in maybe three months, six months in and
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Hey, Alamany, I'm curious if what we just heard here is reflected in the thoughts on Capitol Hill.
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You've got a number of different nominees like Pete, who Pete Hegseth, who he's unqualified.
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These are just facts. And he's behaved in ways that may disqualify him.
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And there are just questions in terms of his basic ability to do a job.
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Then there are nominees or ideas like Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard.
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These are people who have outwardly engaged or spoken in ways that are dangerous to American
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democracy. If I've said that right, are Republicans showing that they are aware of this distinction
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and that they are aware of the dangers at stake?
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Yeah, Mika, well, there's actually sort of two tracks of mine going on on Capitol Hill right now,
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according to the number of people I spoke to yesterday after the news of Ray's resignation.
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One of them being the nominations track going on, but also the fact that this news comes on the tails
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of the Justice Department inspector general announcing that the Trump administration had previously used
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concerning and surreptitious tactics to monitor congressional staffers and to Democratic lawmakers
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and obtain their communications, that there is very clearly a precedent here for Trump abusing
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some of the vast powers of surveillance that the Justice Department has.
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And as Kash Patel has basically clearly stated that he plans on doing,
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we know that there were 43 congressional staffers whose communications were monitored as a part of
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investigations into who was leaking to potentially to reporters during the Justice Department and
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the FBI's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. And this is something that
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that was top of mind for many of the staffers that I spoke with yesterday who flagged this inspector
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general's report. But in terms of the nominations, these things all sort of feed into one
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another. Kash Patel is someone, as is Tulsi Gabbard, who have kind of flown under the radar
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and sort of sailed through the process so far as a result of all of the scrutiny that's been on
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Pete Hegseth, whose nomination for now has has been relatively stable. We saw a number of
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of noncommittal statements about the candidates meeting with Republican senators throughout the week
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this week for one on one meetings. But right now, other than the usual suspects, Susan Collins,
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Lisa Murkowski and Mitch McConnell, there is not a lot of opposition to these people. There are some
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sort of milquetoast concerns, especially about Tulsi Gabbard, but not about Patel for the reasons that
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that that we're talking about. So, you know, I talked to a Trump administration, a Trump transition
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official last night who says that that they're really not concerned with many of their nominees
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at the moment and feel like their approach, especially with Hegseth of fighting his detractors,
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USA! USA! University of Tulsi Gabbard, USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Russia!
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's just, he's dropping, not just bombs, but you know, he is a blunt force instrument and he's leaving blunt force trauma.
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Blunt force instrument, leaving blunt force trauma.
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So Mark Alliance, take your number two pencil and write this down.
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If you're going to be a strategist and not just some hack lawyer that's in places like North Carolina trying to steal or in California trying to get your guys to print ballots all day long because the local laws enforce you.
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But you really want to get it together, get it together.
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The first thing you've got to do is it's the way you project.
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If you show fear, we're just going to run the tables on you.
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Like you would have done us if we'd shown fear.
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Peter Navarro, Boris Epstein, Dan Scavino, Kash Patel, others, people put in prison, Tom Barrack, the newly announced ambassador to Turkey.
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They gave him diesel therapy, shackled him and put him in a prison, I think, for 10 days.
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And a nasty one, too, to try to break him, try to gain a role on Trump, didn't do it, went to trial, boom, testified, I think, for five days.
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There's a great article, I think by Haberman and Swan today, about the Pete Hicks' situation.
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The one thing we didn't show with Jackie Alamey.
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She's a young reporter over the Washington Post.
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She's one of the ones they're trying to promote.
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That's where she gets great slots on Morning Joe and in the evening shows.
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You can kind of pick who the talent is by where they position them.
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Morning Mika literally cut her off when she said that, hey, it's some token resistance.
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I'm sure she got chewed out afterwards by the Morning Mika crowd.
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And then the professors right there, on Chris Hayes last night, the smart people last night
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in the Alex Wagner show and the Chris Hayes show, because the rest of us, and Stephanie
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Rule, they're all sitting there going, oh, my God, why didn't he stay?
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So I don't know this for a fact, but I'm hearing, you know, the buzz go out that maybe
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It's just 12 December, the year of the Lord, 2024, about in mid-December.
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Why didn't it come out like a month before the election?
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If he had stood in the breach, here's their theory of the case.
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If he stood in the breach, and you look at the converging forces of what we talk about
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all the time, the war, the debt, and the invasion.
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The war, the Third World War, the kinetic part, where our – and can we get Admiral Stavridis
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Can we actually understand – I just – I don't get this, Admiral Stavridis and all you NATO,
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Why is a NATO member Turkey bombing everybody down there, bombing Kurds, bombing Christians?
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They unleashed ISIS, and they unleashed Al-Qaeda, and they unleashed – because it's all Muslim
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You got the Persians on one side, and you got the Muslim brotherhood.
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Hamas is Muslim brotherhood, and I don't want to hear, oh, they got Persian back.
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And Hezbollah is a proxy army for the Persians.
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So you got the war, you got the debt, and you have the invasion.
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And all they're doing is – and here's their feeling.
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If they jam Trump up enough, they jam Trump up enough that the investigations in the deconstruction
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of the administrative state will have to be put on the back burner because the three
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converging things are on – they're going to all converge on a point, and they're doing
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everything right now possible to make sure they chop block him.
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If they can't get to the FBI, you can't get to the investigative apparatus.
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Main justice and even the U.S. attorneys, they're kind of nothing without the investigative
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To take it away from the lawfare crowd, to take it away from the people who tried to destroy
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Ray understands that, hey, guys, note this in Morning Joe and Evening MSNBC and the New
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York Times and the Washington Post, all the media information war.
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Cabinet position where a new president comes in.
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Obviously, there's been a ton of public pressure, but he's choosing to step down.
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Is it fair to say Trump's pressure kind of forced him to do it?
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This is an important point that the public needs to understand.
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A 10-year term is deliberate for an FBI director, for all FBI directors after J. Edgar Hoover,
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to prevent both a director taking too long in office, Hoover was there for 40 years,
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but also to ensure that this wasn't a political assignment where you'd leave with every new
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What Chris Wray decided to do today was to really do something that further politicizes
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He's attaching his decision to an incoming president who doesn't like him and has announced
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And I would have preferred that Chris Wray decided to make Trump fire him, break another
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norm, and go down in history for someone who fired two FBI directors.
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I'm really worried about the rank-and-file men and women of the FBI today and moving forward,
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and then ultimately the future of the FBI as an agency that's going to remain neutral,
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We've got a nominee in Kash Patel who's not only not qualified, but more importantly,
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has said repeatedly he intends to go after people for doing their job, for prosecuting,
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for investigating, journalists, for being in the media.
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That's not who Chris Wray was, and that's not who the FBI is.
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Agents who think he should have been more forceful in defending the Bureau against Trump,
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but he chose to go the quiet route, and I respect that.
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Okay, but I've read through his transcript of his town hall employee meeting today a couple
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of times, and what he's saying is that he thought it was better for the institution.
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I think the fear was that if he was going to get fired, Trump was going to have to gin
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up some kind of dirt, some kind of slaps on the FBI, as if we haven't heard enough of that
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from Trump, that would further drag the Bureau and the men and women of the Bureau through the
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And what Chris Wray is saying today is, we don't need that to happen.
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I am, look, with regards to headquarters, which Kash Patel claims he was going to shut down
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This week alone, Stephanie, two assistant directors decided to retire.
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They were eligible for retirement, but they weren't mandatory.
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I think more of that's coming with regard to the field.
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The concern I'm hearing is that, look, we get there's going to be massive change at
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headquarters, but at the moment it affects our decisions in the field in terms of what
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we can open and close and who we can investigate or not.
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Questions I've heard being asked is, are we going to be allowed to open a corruption case
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Are we going to be allowed to open a counterintelligence case against Russia?
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Because it appears Trump is friendly with Putin.
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I want to deal with, I want to deal with, uh, yo, bro, preserve your documents and lawyer
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All of you guys, all of you FBI spokesmen, former guys, everybody associated with the 51 letters
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that have been signed, the 51, your security clearance is going to be pulled immediately.
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So don't say when stuff gets pulled from you later, Hey, I didn't know that you got warned
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in the war room over and over again, preserve your documents and lawyer up to the cash Patel
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Now, I think on a budgetary basis is in counter Intel or intelligence, counterintelligence and
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Those three areas, intelligence, counterintelligence and in, um, counterterrorism, particularly post
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Somebody said the footprint's growing, the budget's exploding.
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Why do you think they need a, a, a headquarters building that Maryland and Virginia have been
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It's not because they're playing cops and robbers.
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Only 35% I think of the budget or 40% of the budget is with traditional law enforcement.
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That's kind of the afterthought unless they're Jack booting in to get people praying the rosary
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at abortion centers, or unless they're Jack booting down the door to shackle parents who
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have been at, uh, who had been at school board meetings that they took your license plate in
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there and watch the tape because you're sitting there.
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You don't want this pervert, bizarro porn forced down your kid's throat in the classroom
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by some, some, uh, loser with purple spiked hair.
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Well, that's still a relatively, that's a relatively small part.
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This is what cash talks about the big footprint in that, in the interview.
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And they better start embracing cash is much more amenable and much more even handed than
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Hey bro, we don't want to turn it into a museum of the deep state.
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We want to take that, the architect, a brutal, what's called brutalist architecture.
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I think it's from the, uh, Mussolini's fascist thirties in Italy.
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We want to take that horrible building apart, which is a nice whore.
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And just like the Romans did at Carthage after, I believe it was the third Punic war,
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Because remember it was, uh, it was Cato the elder, Cato the elder after everything, Cato
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the elders in the Senate, whether he's talking about education or he's talking about taxes
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or he's talking about cleaning the streets because everything came to the, to the Roman
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Remember the, um, the people in Senate of Rome was the SPQR.
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The people in Senate of Rome, everything they argued, he'd finished everything.
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No matter what we're discussing, it's only one thing that really matters.
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And that's, we have to destroy that enemy because until we destroy that enemy, we're not free.
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It's kind of like, I don't know, my dispositive question at the top, is this the CCP?
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Is the 21st century, the CCP going to win or the American Republic?
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I want to do what Scipio Africanus and Cato the elder want to do.
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It's, it's been, and you see these guys on TV all the time.
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Weissman, all this crowd, McCabe, Comey, it can't be reformed.
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And they keep saying, and they're lying about cash.
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He didn't say shut down the intelligence operation, the counterintelligence operation, or the counterterrorism.
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What that has to be done, because I'm a very strong advocate that we get rid of the FBI in total.
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You take those three elements, which are 60%, 65% of the budget, approximately, and you're going to put those in other agencies.
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You're not going to put them into the CIA, because the CIA is not supposed to, not supposed to deal anything domestically.
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He wants all those files in JFK, because he's thinking, hey, I'm not buying that.
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I think the CIA might have had a, might have had something to do in the assassination of my uncle.
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And remember in that book that was written about the Church Commission, when Church puts Gary Hart onto the CIA, they put, Hart was a young hot runner on Church on that committee.
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The famous Church Committee that they talk about, where all these reforms came from.
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Church, Gary Hart's the young hot runner going to be president one day.
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They put him on the CIA part of it, of the Church Committee, because they don't know what they're going to find, because the CIA was so out of control, nobody was controlling it.
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And they're feeding what they want to hear, which is the, they're killing, they're assassinating guys in sub-Saharan Africa.
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They're, they're doing, and eventually get to, hey, they took a couple of, they took a couple of whacks at, at Castro with, I don't know, a poison cigar and poison darts.
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But Hart's sitting there with the CIA, with Angleton.
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Angleton's the guy that ran the deal for like 20 or 30 years or internally, the internal guy.
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The guy that went on the mall, they knew they had Soviet malls.
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They went on, he destroyed like 50 guys, committed suicide, to find the mall, never found them.
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We found out later, you know, Hanson and those guys who they were.
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And Angleton is a, is a guy who would take a drink.
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Most of the, a lot of these guys are alcoholics, flat out.
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Don't know if it was because of their conscience or not.
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And Angleton's sitting there and they, and he says, look, you know, I have to ask you this question before we go.
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He says, did the CIA, and Hart can barely get it out because he's nervous.
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Did the CIA have anything to do with the assassination of President Kennedy?
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And Angleton said, you're, you were a theology student as an undergraduate, were you not?
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He said, in my father's house, there are many mansions.
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And Gary Hart went back to church and said, hey, I think that's a line of country we don't want to develop.
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And remember, there were a couple, three things that came up.
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You talk about this guy that gunned this CEO down.
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In cold blood in Midtown Manhattan, point blank range, lying in wait.
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Kind of the way they got rid of Wild Bill Hickok.
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I think that's where the first game is first tab of acid.
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These, they're freaked out because Ray surrendered to Trump.
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So there's a rumor that the IG report's going to be out, I don't know, sometime today, tomorrow.
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Huge piece in the New York Times, kind of lead story in the New York Times.
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Fixed bayonets and basically retrieving Pete Hegseth's candidacy.
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You've got the war, the debt, and the invasion, to keep it simple.
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Lead story on zero hedge is how an explosion of spending is happening.
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The greatest, remember, the fiscal year of the government starts 1 October.
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So October, November, December, I think this will be the greatest deficit we've ever had outside the pandemic.
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Extraordinary events, but for normal course of business.
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I think we're on track to have, by the end of December, the greatest ever.
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And I've got it up on, I think I've got it up on, in fact, I know I got it up on Getty.
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And we're going to have some people here break it down for you.
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So number one, the debt is exploding because they're trying to jam Trump up.
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You've got all the guys in NATO saying, hey, I don't know.
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We're not putting in, I don't know if we're putting in security forces.
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But then when they talk about specific commitments, well, I don't know if we can do it.
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The United States is never, under Donald Trump, never going to put a troop anywhere near peacekeeping there in Israel or the Middle East.
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Not only lasted for a couple hours, but the defense minister committed, tried to commit suicide.
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Now they said the guys were marching on the election thing to get to the election.
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They take that election integrity even bigger than MAGA does.
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They're all insurrectionists and they're running the government.
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You got Turkey and all, you remember they were cheering over the weekend and MSNBC had everybody up there and CNN and all these shows.
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Oh, these are, I told you they're not Jeffersonian Democrats.
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And Erdogan, Erdogan just, he's, Erdogan wants to reverse everything Otto Turk did 100 years ago.
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He's going to go back to the Ottoman Turks, the original glory when they took over Constantinople.
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You know, the Visigoths and the Goss, everybody took a run on Rome, but hey, they lasted for another thousand years over there.
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They're proud of the Ottoman Empire went all the way down to Saudi Arabia.
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Note to self, he's a NATO ally doing bombing runs on folks up there.
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And all day long, all day long, and all they're talking about, and all they're on President Trump.
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Hex does not have anything to do with him because he's going through his turn in the barrel.
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But nonstop, they want, you know, we've got to portion this thing off.
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America's got to have, so we have to have nothing.
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That's what started this thing, the domino effect.
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And they're sitting there going, oh, you've got to have, you know, you're going to do this.
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Hey, get all the millions, I think, I don't know, it was 10 million that went into Europe in the first Syrian crisis.
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Drinking vodka with, with Putin and the KGB guys.
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But I'll tell you, I sat in the National Security Council with the president.
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I told him right there, hey, can I see some evidence of these chemical attacks?
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These people will lie to you, look you in the eye and lie to you.
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What they want to do, they want to get a cheek by jowl.
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They got her, they got up cheek by jowl with the Russians and they want to get tangled because
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they want to get, they want, now why are they, with everything else going in the world,
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why is they so focused on getting in war with the Russians?
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The framers and founders of our nation understood that.
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They said, don't, whatever you do, we got our own deal here, here, the New Jerusalem here,
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That was a little questionable, but hey, you had to do it, went and did it.
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So the war, they're getting, they're getting Trump.
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I'm telling you, they're, they are sucking us in to something that's a hundred times worse
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The sacrifice of our troops, horrible, just horrible, horrible and not supported.
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But that is nothing compared to what this thing is.
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You take that arc from Russia through the bloodlands of Ukraine.
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You cut all the way down to the Tigris and Euphrates, to Iraq, Persia.
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People have been over there killing each other for thousands of years.
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Thousands and thousands and thousands of years.
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They're going to be killing each other a thousand years from now.
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They're trying to handcuff Trump right now, and they just passed the NDA.
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Well, Trump comes in and says, I don't want to appropriate that.
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The Doge guys are here, and they've got some other ideas.
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And everybody's sitting there calling me, no, Steve, you're overselling that.
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Once that top line's locked in, it's locked in.
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And programmatically, they kind of got the programs.
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You may carve it out on the side, but you're not going to get to it.
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And if you don't get down to that defense budget, there's no Doge.
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The math, it's a contractual obligation to the working class and middle class.
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That little $1,200 check and some Medicare and some health insurance or health.
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And you've got to, that's a contract with you and they can't break it.
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They can renegotiate and re-vote it, but you've got to say so on that.
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So don't talk to me about $2 trillion unless you understand how they're jamming you up right now
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Because you think these folks up here, you think they give a damn, a tinker's damn what Trump thinks?
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They may go in the camera and, you know, I, you know, somehow I've got to really look at these nominees
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and I've got to, you know, got to advise him and consent with him.
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And Vivek and when they walked up the other day, the only thing they understand is fear and power.
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You fixed bayonets and said, hey, no more Gateses.
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Trump took a bullet in four weeks, took a bullet to the head.
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And you guys in the Senate wouldn't even be, have jobs or have chairmanships if it wasn't for Trump.
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Who dragged everybody across the goal line, as he always does.
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We got Oscar Blue and Burkwam down there in harm's way again.
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They're not even kicking in ice and setting the platform and training people up and getting them in the uniforms again and telling ice, give me a cheery aye aye.
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They're going to do shock and awe, but we need some bodies and maybe coordinate with Texas and, hey, we got to go.
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And what media is trying to do, because remember, all they want to do in politics is follow the horse race.
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No, but it's DeSantis and Youngkin and Nikki Haley.
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On the nominations, and we got to get them across.
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But the time is really saying, audience, hey, today we're fixing bayonets and it's Pete Hegseth or it's Tulsi Gabbard or it's Bobby Kennedy because they all got to get approved.
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They just came out of Lisa Murkowski's office, and we're live here outside of Lisa Murkowski for her pearls of wisdom.
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We don't give a damn what Lisa Murkowski has to say.
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People in Alaska ought to be ashamed of themselves for not taking care of this thing.
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You got this voting thing that you let them come in, and you're never going to have good people up there.
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So I'd love the people in Alaska, but don't give me the last frontier, and we're, you know, walking around with no shirts, jumping in ice ponds.
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But we're not waiting for her pearls of wisdom.
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Because underneath that, you've got to get the personnel, boom, to do it.
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And they're doing, the transition team's doing good for second and third tier.
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But it's also the convergence of the thing itself.
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They're not standing there in this period trying to have Trump's people in some logical, coordinated way relieve the watch.
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Because at high noon, you give them a cheery eye-eye.
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They thought Ray would, at least he's heard the professor.
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Why did Ray, for all the media, that for all those years, was it Ken Dillian?
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Why did Ray surrender and get the hell out of town?
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I don't think it's just because I'm getting older.
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And remember, I spent four months in a cell block.
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The response I got yesterday from folks in North Carolina, here on Capitol Hill, of what you accomplished and have in the back of the folks down there in the legislature, because we set things as much right as we possibly could.
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And I know it was powerful because MSNBC all last night had Democrats down there whining.
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I mean, the power of people were like blown away by that.
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And I realized we didn't really get to the ramparts because that thing was happening.
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But you can only, you know, you can only focus on so many things.
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And that's why I want everybody to read the New York Times article.
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In fact, Grace, if we can somehow try to get an archive of it.
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And I say in there, I'm quoted, I think, no more Gateses, that we live in one world, and that's the world of victory.
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If you look at the opposing forces we have, they don't have that.
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That it's finally now they're starting to begin to deal with the fact that not just Trump won, but we are seizing the institutions.
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And somebody put on Twitter the other day, there's this tension between destroying the institutions or taking over, reforming and rebuilding.
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You have to seize the institutions to then see whether they can be reformed or whether they can be reconstituted or should they just go away?
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The FBI, I strongly believe, a couple of years now will go away.
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They'll be allocated to different areas, particularly the counterterrorism, the counterintelligence and the intelligence part.
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The law enforcement, I think, will go somewhere in DOJ with U.S. attorneys that the U.S. attorneys will have an investigative force and maybe some sort of policing action on some limited basis.
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Look at all the intelligence fairies we have every week.
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They've gotten better at jackbooting, putting the jackboot on folks playing the rosary.
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People that have no power and they don't think are going to come back to power.
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They were all fine about jackbooting your house down and putting you in change.
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They shackled Navarre, a 70-year-old man, at Reagan National Airport in front of hundreds of people.
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They handcuffed him, shackled him, and took him down to that tarmac off the thing, off the plane, and humiliated him in front of everybody.
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Do you ever think in two billion years that if they thought Peter Navarro was ever going to be a senior counselor in the White House, in the Oval Office every day,
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The important thing to take away today is that the deep state ain't that tough.
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Oh, they're bad, and they're cunning, and they got the apparatus, and they're going to be, hey, we're so far from victory.
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But you can feel the fear coming through every day.
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All you people who read the Wall Street Journal every day.
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I got nephews, and they're reading the Wall Street Journal every day, and they're sending me stuff.
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Show me all the articles in Wall Street Journal, Warren, about the greatest financial collapse
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Now, if you didn't see it, because it wasn't written, it wasn't printed, they ain't maybe
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had a couple guys in articles saying, hey, I think we got a problem here.
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Right here, they got Bolton, who's kind of a creep.
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Trump's misguided attack on birthright citizenship.
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They don't like that either, because they like tons of illegal aliens here, and they want
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Oh, and down here, and this is the most logical one, but down here is how you can't, Trump
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You got to be in, you're sucked into forever wars.
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And if you don't believe that, look at, look at Syria.
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The war, because we're in the kinetic part of the Third World War now.
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If you're not taking notes at home, a million people in the last two and a half years, three
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That was according to President Trump, the six or seven hundred thousand.
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That's just in your watch, watching the show the last couple of years.
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I'm telling you, everything he wants to do, that debt ceiling deal comes off, I think,
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You're still going to have flat champagne in your glasses.
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