Raheem Kassam is the editor-in-chief executive officer of The National Pulse, a conservative media outlet that focuses on the right-wing media landscape. He is also the co-founder of The War Room, a website that chronicles the story of the Trump impeachment process, and is a regular contributor to the New York Times and other conservative publications.
00:00:48.000Well, welcome to the War Room on a very special Boxing Day special.
00:01:03.000Those of you who have followed the War Room and indeed the old Breitbart News Daily radio show know that it's somewhat of a tradition in the War Room that Stephen K. Bannon hands over the reins to me for Boxing Day, for the Boxing Day special.
00:01:17.000Every year where we kind of do a round up of the year's events.
00:01:22.000We explain a little bit what Boxing Day is, because I know that it is particularly a British tradition, but we're trying to kind of make it a thing again here in the United States.
00:01:32.000So welcome to the War Room on this Thursday, the 26th of December, the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:01:39.000I will do somewhat of an introduction for myself, for those of you, because I know this audience is growing every single day, every single week, every single month and, of course, every single year.
00:01:50.000But for those who don't know me or might have kind of seen me but don't really know where I fit into this whole operation, my name is Raheem Kassam.
00:02:01.000I used to work for Nigel Farage, the now Reform Party leader in the United Kingdom.
00:02:06.000I've worked for and with Stephen K. Bannon for far longer than I wish, quite frankly, and far longer than he wishes, I imagine, quite frankly.
00:02:16.000I was the London editor of Breitbart.com for many years.
00:02:20.000I'm now the editor-in-chief of TheNationalPulse.com, which I want to talk to you guys a little bit about over the course of this show as well,
00:02:28.000as well as all of the other fantastic, new, right-leaning, truthful media sites and operations that are out there at the moment.
00:02:38.000And, you know, I guess my role now in this broader movement has been, I think the New York Times referred to me as the ombudsman of the MAGA movement for quite some time.
00:02:50.000Or perhaps I think maybe I referred to myself as that and they quoted me.
00:02:58.000We are very much the first to a lot of stories that you hear about kind of two days, two weeks, sometimes two years down the line.
00:03:08.000A couple of days ago on the show, Steve noted how I was in Ukraine in 2013 trying to wave the ring, the alarm bells and tell people, hey, you know, we face an existential crisis.
00:03:20.000We face a hot war. There's a color revolution going on here.
00:03:24.000And you can see that across the board with so many things.
00:03:28.000So I was one of the co-founders of The War Room with Steve Bannon, with Jason Miller back when it was originally an audio only show before Real America's Voice came along and picked it up and did such a great job in distributing it and producing this televisual experience that you have.
00:03:45.000But, yeah, Jason Miller, myself and Steve, we kind of went through all of the early impeachment detail.
00:03:52.000We had members of Congress who would stop by and we operated it exactly like an actual political war room.
00:03:59.000There were stacks of papers highlighted, which we were going through.
00:04:03.000We had a team of great researchers at the time.
00:04:06.000And, you know, we'd be in that office, we'd be in that war room from about from about seven o'clock in the morning through midnight most days throughout that impeachment process, going through deep diving all of the information, all of the data, cross-referencing the links.
00:04:21.000You know, when they did that to President Donald Trump, they had just so much in terms of apparatus, staffing, money at their disposal.
00:04:33.000And the counter narrative operation between the lawyers and kind of what we were doing externally with the war room was really a very, very tiny, tight knit group of people who just kind of came together and said, we believe this to be a complete and total lie.
00:04:48.000We're going to go through these documents the same way that you guys are all the witness testimonies.
00:04:52.000Those of you who followed along with impeachment, I mean, you will remember on a day to day basis just what an intensive labor process that was.
00:05:02.000We'd never been through anything like that before.
00:05:04.000It was a first for many of us going through that level of detail, that level of data, all these foreign names, all of the Ukrainian names, all of that would come up.
00:05:13.000And honestly, not to take anything away from what the show does today, but that was kind of my favorite iteration of the show because we were just so heavily invested in the actual witness testimony and things.
00:05:35.000And it's my absolute favorite thing to do.
00:05:37.000You can say the same about polling data.
00:05:39.000We've been doing that for years upon years.
00:05:41.000You can find me writing about this stuff back 10, 15 years ago, maybe about how the polling industry works, why you get certain levels of responses.
00:05:49.000You know, when this and Seltzer thing came up in Iowa, it was so obviously immediately obvious to anybody who understands how to go through numbers like that and to go through detail like that, that it was complete fraud.
00:06:01.000And it was a fraud, another fraud, another hoax being perpetuated, not just on the American public, by the way.
00:06:08.000Remember how much the rest of the world has invested in who the president of the United States was.
00:06:13.000So it was another hoax perpetuated on the world, on the global community, as they like to call it, in Washington, D.C.
00:06:21.000And at the Hague and in Brussels and in the city of London, the global global community was being hoaxed yet again, as we were back in 2020, as we were during covid.
00:06:34.000And isn't it funny, you know, when the when the when war room impeachment not even had wrapped up, but we had this we had this pandemic coming down the pipeline.
00:06:44.000And again, this show was at the cutting edge when that information was coming out of Wuhan.
00:06:49.000You know, people are sick. People are falling down in the street.
00:06:51.000Nobody knows what this is. We put the two and two together on the first on the very first episode of war room pandemic.
00:06:58.000We had Jack Posobiec. We had a bunch of others later on.
00:07:01.000Amazing whistleblowers, doctors, some of us, some of them who are no longer even with us today, I'm afraid.
00:07:07.000But just shows how kind of how far this all goes back and how invested people were in the truth telling process in all of that, that you had concurrently.
00:07:17.000You had to have a war room impeachment in 2020 operation running parallel with a war room pandemic operation that kind of doubled the scope, doubled the research level of everything that was coming out of these offices.
00:07:31.000And of course, real America's voice was there with us all along the way, helping us with that, you know, to get the real information out.
00:07:38.000Hey, there's a lab that we might want to look into.
00:07:41.000Hey, that lab actually may have been funded by the U.S. taxpayer.
00:07:46.000Hey, they've got this deal with Anthony Fauci and Peter Daszak.
00:07:50.000You know, it was Natalie Winters who first made the connection between Dr. Fauci and Peter Daszak back in the early days of war room pandemic.
00:08:01.000And of course, everything you're seeing now today as a part of the investigations that are going to be taking place as a part of what Kash Patel is going to be doing inside the FBI.
00:08:12.000All of that as a direct result, you can you can you can run the pattern right back down to that moment.
00:08:20.000All right. That's the tail of the tape and everything that came out of this war room.
00:08:24.000So I'm delighted to be here with you all today and bring you a show that is, you know, we I wouldn't say that it is the most intensive of shows in terms of the day to day news of the operation today.
00:08:36.000But it is an intensive show when we think about where we go now over the next four years, how the next administration gets staffed up properly, accurately with with true believers,
00:08:48.000with people that are willing to put their shoulders to the wheel on getting the right things done.
00:08:52.000Because really, ladies and gentlemen, I know this audience especially probably doesn't need me to say it.
00:08:58.000But, you know, you have four years, you really only have about 18 months where you really only have about 12 to 16 months really to hit the ground running to get what needs to be done in day one.
00:09:11.000And week one, by the way, probably the most important parts of all of this.
00:09:14.000And we're here kind of acting as the ombudsman for all of that.
00:09:18.000You know, calling I think you say calling balls and strikes.
00:09:21.000Right. Making sure that the people who have let down President Trump over the last four years, you know, I think of it as kind of the dark years, the wilderness years, the Mar-a-Lago years, whatever you want to call it.
00:09:37.000And, you know, I say this not as a political talking point, but like we lost friendships, personal, long term friendships over that primary, over the GOP primary with all of these people who kind of toddled off into the DeSantis camp because there was a promise of a paycheck or a job or whatever it is.
00:09:58.000Don't get me wrong. You know, Governor DeSantis has done a wonderful job governing in Florida.
00:10:03.000I don't need to tell this audience that. And I certainly don't need to tell the people who lived in Florida throughout the pandemic, especially that.
00:10:08.000Right. And then the fight that he's taken to the school boards on the transgenderism, on the on the books, these deviant books that they're trying to shove down a kid's throat.
00:10:17.000But but what he did was he made a fundamental.
00:10:21.000I know I'm jumping around here a lot, but that's that's kind of what I do.
00:10:25.000So you're going to stick with me for the changes here to quote back to the future.
00:10:29.000Um, DeSantis came along and he kind of acted like and his team around him acted like, OK, we need to find some way to marry the old GOP Bushy era.
00:11:31.000I know that so many of you out there know that as well.
00:11:35.000I meet so many of you out there when I'm on the road.
00:11:39.000You know, I'm not just I'm not just hold up on Capitol Hill and Washington, D.C. all the time, although I'm there far more than I wish I was, quite frankly.
00:11:48.000But I've been there through the darkest through the wilderness years.
00:11:51.000You know, there were only a handful of us of these people that you see on television and in podcasts and on social media who actually showed up at Mar-a-Lago when President Trump announced he was running again.
00:12:05.000A lot of people hedge their bets. A lot of people didn't show up that day.
00:12:09.000And by the way, we kind of got mocked for it.
00:12:11.000You know, Olivia Nuzi, RIP to her career.
00:12:15.000You know, Olivia Nuzi, who wanted to who wanted to get jiggy with RFK, you know, over text message.
00:12:22.000She wrote this nasty piece saying, like, hey, you got you got Raheem Kassam, Seb Gorka and Bricksuit Man as the most recognizable faces at Mar-a-Lago during the announcement.
00:12:33.000So perhaps it's not going all that well for President Trump.
00:12:35.000I called her up and I said, hey, F you.
00:12:37.000I'm sorry. I'm sorry to speak in such unglamorous terms on Boxing Day.
00:12:42.000But I told her, you know, you you you are making fun of me for being one of the people who actually sees where this thing is going.
00:16:21.000Well, we've given Stephen K. Bannon the day off here.
00:16:25.000It is Boxing Day, the 26th of December, the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:16:31.000And we'll be getting into that and a lot of the 12 days of Christmas, which we tend to do every year at the National Pulse to remind people of the importance and what it means, what the Yuletide period actually means and why each separate day kind of has something spiritual associated, religious, very Christian iconography associated with it.
00:16:55.000And, you know, how we need to think about those days, how we need to think about those moments.
00:17:00.000Jack Montgomery will be on with us later on to unpack all of that, and he does just a magnificent job at it.
00:17:08.000I want to say, while I have your attention, your undivided attention, there's nobody right now to come in over the top of me and say, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:17:15.000I want to say, while I have your undivided attention, you know, the last couple of weeks I've been on the road and that has been more and more of my life.
00:17:24.000I always tell myself that I'm going to take a little step back, take it a little bit easier, you know, maybe just kind of take a secondary role, maybe write another book.
00:17:34.000There's so much to be written about the last 10 or 12 years as well.
00:17:37.000I've been in so many of the rooms that you wouldn't even believe, by the way, hearing some of the conversations, meeting some of the characters.
00:17:44.000And so I want to do all that for history's sake, really, to get that down on paper and on the record.
00:17:51.000And then I get dragged into something else.
00:17:54.000And, you know, whether it was the New York Young Republican Gala, I mean, by the way, for those of you that don't know, Gala season, as they call it, in the political world, in the nonprofit world, is so much fun, but absolutely mind boggling as well.
00:18:09.000You kind of just every night you're doing the same thing and you're seeing a lot of the same faces and you kind of, you know, going through the motions, doing all the networking.
00:18:47.000And you can you can't really I don't think you can ever escape, you know, just how important it is to shake hands with somebody, to look them in the eye, to pat them on the shoulder, you know, to be present in a moment.
00:20:05.000You know, they were instrumental in just how much the ground shifted for Donald Trump.
00:20:10.000I mean, that Madison Square Garden rally that was just absolutely historic for multiple reasons, but was absolutely historic would never have happened were it not for Gavin and the team.
00:20:58.000And I think we cannot be for a second complacent about where they stand as an operation at right now, because they're going to get more radical.
00:21:17.000And I think we're going to see it on January 6th in Washington, D.C.
00:21:21.000And I want everybody coming into town to be extremely careful and have their wits about them.
00:21:27.000Because I think there are going to be some fringe elements who are who are in the midst of taking over, by the way, in the midst of taking over the left wing in a massive way.
00:21:40.000And you saw Cenk Uyga go over to to Amfest and kiss the ring.
00:21:44.000Right. And if you didn't see it, you should see it because they understand.
00:21:47.000They get now all of these people who for the last decade have told me, looked at me square in the eye and said, I don't know how you can do this populism stuff, you know, and holding their nose.
00:21:59.000While they say it, you know, it's dirty, it's filthy, it's disgusting.
00:22:03.000Why do you want to be around ordinary people?
00:22:05.000And I always look back at them and say the same thing is that the ordinary people built this country, the ordinary people built Western civilization.
00:22:13.000And there's absolutely nothing ordinary about them.
00:22:16.000They are, in fact, the extraordinary people.
00:22:18.000It's the people who are the leeches on that effort.
00:22:22.000And whether it is the security effort, you know, for the people who served their country, served in the military, anything like that.
00:22:29.000Or whether it's the people who have physically, who physically get their, you know, one of the things that I learned.
00:22:35.000And I'll bring Will Upton into this conversation in a second.
00:22:38.000One of the things that I learned, you know, having spent many years with Steve Bannon over the years, like up close and personal, understanding his mental framework, how it all works.
00:22:48.000Because I think we all agree, ladies and gentlemen, he's kind of nuts.
00:23:03.000That was one of the things that really clued me up onto how how you actually get to understand what's going on out there in the country.
00:23:10.000I mean, you know, I can go to New York and I can go to L.A. and I can go to Phoenix.
00:23:14.000But, you know, the big cities will scarcely tell you anything real.
00:23:18.000They might give you a vague sense, especially out in some of the suburbs, what's going on in people's day to day lives, you know, affordability, things like that.
00:23:27.000And actually, you've got to get far deeper into it.
00:23:29.000I know I don't have to tell you this, but it was that radio show.
00:23:32.000And the reason it was that radio show was because it was a call in show.
00:23:36.000And so I think we were up at six to nine a.m.
00:23:40.000So you had to be in the studio at five a.m., which for those of you who know me, you know, it was difficult because sometimes I would come straight from the pub to the studio.
00:23:51.000And it's six o'clock in the morning and the entire call boards are lit up.
00:26:07.000This is something that I noticed during the primary and it carried over to the general election that this started to do Santa's campaign.
00:26:15.000They completely missed sort of the primary electorate.
00:26:18.000They focused sort of on your traditional, predominantly evangelical, predominantly, you know, upper middle class, sort of high income, modern education level to high education level evangelical voter.
00:26:30.000But since 2016, Trump has sort of brought in a whole new demographic to the Republican Party, typically working class.
00:26:39.000You know, the large portion of them are Hispanic.
00:26:45.000Large portion are white males without college education.
00:26:48.000And Trump is the only one who has ever really sort of offered these people anything on the policy front, whether it's immigration, whether it's trade, reshoring jobs.
00:27:01.000You know, this has been sort of the message that has propelled the MAGA movement, the America First movement, you know, the sort of anti-foreign interventionism movement has propelled all of this forward.
00:27:15.000And in the early days of the primary, I kind of sat there and looked at the DeSantis campaign and they had their big Twitter rollout and they were kind of messaging on sort of the, you know, Florida where woke goes to die, things like that.
00:27:28.000And none of this really, I thought, resonated with what is now a large portion of the GOP electorate.
00:27:36.000These people are actually registered Republicans now, especially after 2020.
00:28:51.000So I'm in the driver's chair here leading you through this Boxing Day special.
00:28:55.000I'm delighted to be with you, ladies and gentlemen.
00:28:57.000It's one of my, probably actually, I mean, so one of my, it is my favorite audience in the whole world because I meet so many of you every single time I'm out there at these events.
00:29:07.000Obviously, we did AmpFest, AmpFest, sorry, last week with Charlie Kirk and the extremely, I mean, just mind-blowing turning point operation that was there.
00:29:18.000I think their staff, their volunteers that run that event, a lot of them just kids, right?
00:29:25.000College kids volunteering their time, their spare time to make sure that event runs effectively.
00:29:31.000I think they now number in the thousands, actually, or at least a thousand people that they have there on the ground in Phoenix at that convention center.
00:29:40.000And it's just an incredible sight to behold because, look, I've run things all my life.
00:29:44.000Will Upton, we'll bring Will back into this in a moment.
00:29:48.000And Will will tell you that I am a particularly hard taskmaster at times.
00:29:53.000I don't sort of deal very well with what I perceive to be lethargy or laziness or things like that.
00:30:03.000Not to take any shots at Will directly, by the way, but it's just a blanket attitude that I have towards everything that I've ever run in my life.
00:30:11.000And, you know, for Charlie to be running an operation like that and to have as many people working under him as he does.
00:30:18.000I mean, you've got to understand, AJM, and I know lots of you run your own companies out there and know how hard it is.
00:30:23.000You're getting into the numbers that he's dealing with.
00:30:26.00020,000 attendees, 1,000 plus people helping run the event.
00:30:30.000You've got to deal with social security, secret service.
00:30:34.000You've got to deal with the local police departments.
00:30:37.000You've got to deal with all of these things.
00:32:10.000But but our our sustaining base of people, our thousands upon thousands of members are what keeps us going day in and day out.
00:32:20.000And I'm going to keep talking about it over the course of this episode because I will be frank with you.
00:32:26.000We go into a year now where a lot of people take their foot off the accelerator.
00:32:30.000They go, oh, well, we won the election.
00:32:32.000So, you know, we can just kind of let Trump and the team now now make America great again.
00:32:37.000Right. It doesn't really work like that.
00:32:39.000You know, you have to have your allies across different sectors running interference.
00:32:44.000You know, we have to have the Will Uptons doing the requisite fact checks on the false narratives that are being perpetuated out there.
00:32:52.000We have to have in-depth reporting, real news reporting.
00:32:55.000You said it this week, this last couple of days when they released the the leaked, I should say, the Congressional Ethics Committee.
00:33:02.000Ethics Committee, ethics being the word leaked in a deeply unethical manner, their report into Matt Gaetz to sully him up to besmirch his name, to try and tell the world he should never come back to Washington, D.C.
00:33:18.000He's not allowed in these hallowed halls. Forget the fact that we've been paying off, you know, sexual harassment accusers for the last several decades at least and using taxpayer money to do it.
00:33:31.000By the way, your money, ladies and gentlemen, to do it. No, Matt Gaetz is the problem because he went to a couple of parties and he maybe he had a sugar daddy relationship with a girl one day.
00:33:41.000You know, you know, by the way, a girl who was overage, you know, these lies that they tell about this underage girl and Matt's approach to this is always the same.
00:33:50.740Bring it into a courtroom. Then if you have the evidence that this ever happened, show it to a court of law and let me defend myself against these allegations in a courtroom.
00:34:00.000And guess what? They never do that very thing.
00:34:04.360We'll bring Will Upton back into the conversation. It will. That's obviously been one of the main themes of the last couple of days.
00:34:10.300I interrupted you over the course of the break. We're talking about the primary process. Let's marry those two up.
00:34:15.520How do we get here? Let's talk about Kevin McCarthy. Let's talk about Mike Johnson.
00:34:19.060Let's talk about this budget crisis that we've got going on here, because because it's crazy to me the way that the GOP establishment appears to have learned absolutely nothing.
00:34:29.880Yeah, I mean, Kevin McCarthy was was ousted for basically trying to marry a debt limit deal to to a CR with government funding.
00:34:39.140This is something that he had promised he would not do when he was first elected speaker with part of the conditions of him becoming speaker.
00:34:46.720And Matt Gaetz rightfully held his feet to the fire on it.
00:34:52.280And for the first time ever in United States history, the motion to vacate the the speaker's chair actually passed through the house.
00:35:00.280The last time it was used was in the 1910s against speaker Cannon, who actually used it against himself in like a power move to basically like lay it on the table and be like, I'm the big guy in the room.
00:35:11.420But yeah, and then you fast forward today, we find ourselves again in the same situation.
00:35:18.380Now, you know, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, they kind of put us in this budget scenario where we have to do this continuing resolution every December right before Christmas.
00:35:29.740It used to happen, you know, at various points throughout the year when funding would kind of run out.
00:35:35.400But now it just it's it's set for December.
00:35:37.400And the whole goal is to jam members right before Christmas and sort of ram through a big expensive CR and and and call it a day.
00:35:46.180Now, now, thankfully, this time we had a lot of pushback from from activists and just, you know, rank and file people at home and rank and file members of Congress that, you know, prevented a 1500 page continued resolution.
00:35:59.120A continued resolution should only be like anywhere between four to nine pages, really.
00:36:03.000It's just changing a date and saying we're extending government funding for for three months.
00:36:07.400But, you know, thankfully, there was there was a kind of a groundswell of pushback against it.
00:36:12.940And we ended up with about 116 page continued resolution.
00:36:16.000It's only that long, really, because it had a bunch of disaster aid for the victims of the hurricanes in Florida, North Carolina, then wildfires out west.
00:36:23.740But like if it had not been for that, you know, Mike Johnson probably would have ran through this 1500 page bill in the dark of night.
00:36:33.100And and very few members of Congress, if any, other than the men behind closed doors who wrote it, would have ever read the damn thing.
00:36:44.940Well, you know, the spotlight being on these people seems to seems to change their at least public statements and public behavior.
00:36:52.880Just just a smidgen. Right. Just enough to kind of all they're really interested in is taking a little bit heat off them.
00:36:58.220But I keep telling people, you know, you can play whack-a-mole with this House speaker as much as you want.
00:37:04.000But unless you get to the crux of the issue, right, the structural problems up on Capitol Hill, then you're going to be playing whack-a-mole for the rest of your life.
00:37:12.040So let's talk about that a little bit here, because, look, it comes down to this.
00:37:14.900You know, big, big, major corporation can buy a member of the House or a member of the Senate.
00:37:21.060And I keep telling people, hey, listen, they didn't write their own pay rise into that 1500 page legislation.
00:37:27.320The lawyers, the lobbyists, the appropriators who wanted that bill passed wrote in a bribe in the form of a pay rise into that into that bill.
00:37:37.140That's what it was. So talk to me a little bit and talk to the audience who doesn't really understand how that bill.
00:37:42.620Because, look, Mike Johnson ain't sitting there writing a 1500 page bill.
00:37:45.620OK, who's writing that and how do we make them famous?
00:37:50.200Yeah. So the people who write these bills, it's the Appropriations Committee.
00:37:54.560It's it's key members of the Senate and the House, usually committee chairs.
00:37:59.100A good way to identify some of them is to see, like, who kind of got bills that they had that they had sponsored that really hadn't moved.
00:38:06.420If they suddenly appear as a new title in this bill, that's that's a good bet that person had a hand in it.
00:38:12.980There's a certain senator from Texas who I know a lot of people like, Ted Cruz.
00:38:17.540He had the Take It Down Act, which is an anti-deepfake bill.
00:38:22.540It is sort of languished in the Senate for the better part of years.
00:38:26.500All of a sudden, I believe it was Title IX in the 1500 page CR.
00:38:33.040But mostly it's written behind closed doors.
00:38:36.100So you don't know exactly who is in that room.
00:38:39.100But it's going to be sort of leadership aides and then your appropriators and powerful committee chairs.
00:38:45.420And this is the way Congress really runs.
00:38:47.260Like we sit there and people want to criticize Mike Johnson and sort of point the finger at him.
00:38:51.460And at the end of the day, he is the speaker and the buck does stop with him.
00:38:54.380But in the House, the day-to-day, the stuff that we really don't like, often the real perpetrators are these committee chairs, are the appropriations committee, and are their staff and their sort of lobbyist buddies, their sort of pay masters at the end of the day.
00:39:12.840So that's who's really behind a lot of this stuff.
00:39:15.020And I think that as we sort of move forward into this next Congress, it would kind of behoove people, I think, to sort of look into who's running appropriations now, who – the former Kay Granger, of course, just showed up in an assisted living facility and hasn't taken a vote since July.
00:39:35.300Thankfully, she stepped down from the committee last spring.
00:39:37.440But, you know, and looking at – you know, Tom Cole runs the committee now, congressman from Oklahoma.
00:39:43.520But, you know, who some of these committee chairs are and really pay attention to what legislation they're moving and what they're doing on their day-to-day because that's where the real power lies in the House especially.
00:40:13.180If you're going to do all of these – and even if you're going to talk about them, right, if you're going to start introducing that kind of revolutionary thinking back into the American national psyche, then you've got to apply that same level of radical thinking to Capitol Hill too.
00:40:28.280I want to see an open-source billmaking process, right, on the blockchain where people can see every single person.
00:40:37.200Who is it on the committee staff who's added this line and why?
00:40:54.720And, by the way, you want a hell of a lot more of it to spend on your pet projects.
00:40:58.360Then I think we need to know who you are.
00:41:01.820And that is my pledge over the course of the next year.
00:41:04.100Because if we're not going to get the money directly out of this right now, day one, then at least we need to know who is on the receiving end of that lobbyist and lawyer cash.
00:41:13.140We'll hang over, hang over on the break.
00:41:16.540I want to bring you back for the last segment in this hour.
00:41:18.720We've got Jack Montgomery in the next segment talking to us about the 12 days of Christmas.
00:41:23.660Going to bring in Chris Tomlinson, another one of our great writers over at the National Post to talk about what's going on in Europe at the moment.
00:41:29.440Because it is blowing up over there right now.
00:41:32.600Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom.
00:42:55.180And, you know, let's maybe talk a little bit about the transition process and how I wish they hadn't driven that wedge between Project 2025, that employee database.
00:43:05.460Remember, Project 2025 was not the document that everybody held up and said, oh, you know, this is crazy town, blah, blah, blah.
00:43:14.660And that Trump had to end up distancing himself from.
00:43:17.600The original 2025 project was just a database of pure MAGA staffers who had worked in the first admin, who were true loyalists.
00:43:27.420You know, these people who put their shoulder to the wheel every single day, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, who didn't abandon Donald Trump after January 6th.
00:43:35.980There were so many people out there who did.
00:43:37.500And that was what that thing was originally for.
00:43:55.480So they're just now getting landing teams up at a lot of these agencies.
00:43:58.900These are usually kind of experienced staffers who are around either in the first administration or prior presidential administrations who are sort of in charge of getting in there, sort of seeing where things stand, and then beginning to bring in sort of that permanent political staff that Trump will appoint.
00:44:17.060You know, with Project 2025, you're absolutely right.
00:44:20.200Like that – Heritage every year puts out a mandate for leadership, and it's basically a big policy book.
00:44:25.960It's not Project 2025, but it's – you know, the database was 2025, where it still seems like they're going to try to draw a lot of names from for people who appoint to a lot of these positions in the federal government.
00:44:37.740But a lot of this sort of infighting there I think has slowed that process, is absolutely correct.
00:44:43.620But, you know, the transition is underway.
00:44:46.360It is moving slowly, although I would credit them on their economic team that they've put together.
00:45:28.760But, you know, you've kind of got this team slowly getting into place here that is, you know, really the guys that were around the last time that were able to sort of put together that robust and sort of booming Trump economy.
00:45:40.880So on that front, I think that we've got kind of the ducks in order and things are running pretty smoothly.
00:45:48.420But, you know, elsewhere, we've seen some problems.
00:45:50.600You know, the State Department is always a concern.
00:45:52.960And it's a place where you really, I think, truly need people who are battle-hardened and battle-ready because your careers over there, your career federal employees, your career bureaucrats, your career diplomats, it is a viper's den.
00:46:11.860And these guys, some of them are almost more loyal to the kind of the countries or regions which they work with than they are to the United States.
00:46:22.020And they are predominantly far left-leaning and they hate the president-elect.
00:46:28.540So I think there's a concern there that we're maybe going too soft and too go along to get along at the State Department, which, again, I want to flag as a big concern.
00:46:39.940And then, of course, we're going to see, you know, both within sort of the GOP establishment and among the Democrats, the big guns come out for people like Tulsi Gabbard and for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:46:52.460And we've already seen it with Pete Hengsteth at the Department of Defense.
00:46:57.020But, you know, the delay in getting the landing teams down, I think, is, you know, concerning.
00:47:03.980But it does seem like, at least on the economic front, they've got things well underway.
00:47:15.200Some of the domestic stuff worries me as well, seeing certain people going into certain landing teams.
00:47:20.820Now, listen, some of the people have gone in and then, you know, maybe somebody like Raheem Kassam has dropped a tweet or two and suddenly they're not in anymore.
00:47:32.660You know, if we need to be the clearinghouse, if we need to be on the ombudsman, I'm happy to be unpopular with the people I love being unpopular amongst.
00:47:39.120You know, I'm not interested in being a good buddy to those people who have worked in Rhino Hill offices for all their lives or at Ron and McDaniel's RNC, quite frankly.
00:47:51.500And you'll never you'll never change my mind about those things.
00:48:08.860I don't think you can be too hard on that situation.
00:48:13.160I think I think, you know, the tendency of President Trump to be a uniter is it's a good character trait.
00:48:19.460It says lots of good things about him as a human being.
00:48:22.580But in but in going in back into Washington, D.C., I don't think you can be too hard and too vindictive, quite frankly, against the people who abandoned you, the people who talk BS about you for so many years.
00:48:33.480That applies across the board, whoever you're hiring in politics, in media.
00:48:37.300Like we should be building up new media organizations, not inviting the CNNs back in, not inviting the ABCs back in.
00:48:43.660You know, it was a lot to talk about with that as well.
00:48:45.880How the press operation works, all of that.
00:48:48.180Well, we've got about a minute to go here.
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