Bannon's War Room - January 03, 2025


Episode 4167： Will Johnson Remain Speaker


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51 minutes

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676

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00:00:00.000 its leader, the other party votes for its leader, and you win outright, and then you become the
00:00:04.300 Speaker. It usually works that way, Chris, but I would never expect anything to go quite so
00:00:09.760 smoothly in this House Republican conference, especially with the margins this narrow.
00:00:14.640 Even smaller margins in the last two years, and Republicans really struggled to govern.
00:00:19.340 And remember, getting elected Speaker is going to be the easy part for Mike Johnson. What comes
00:00:23.600 next is going to be much tougher. They've got another March 14 deadline to fund the government.
00:00:28.200 They're going to need to cut a deal with Democrats there. They have a mid-year, sometime in the
00:00:32.340 middle of the year, a deadline to extend the debt limit, which is something that Republicans hate
00:00:36.060 to do. And at the same time, they have to juggle confirming Trump's nominees through the Senate
00:00:41.520 and pass major party line bills on immigration, on energy, on tax cuts, extending the Trump tax cuts,
00:00:48.240 all with this tiny majority that, Chris, it's going to grow even smaller. Matt Gaetz is not going to
00:00:52.620 take his seat tomorrow. That's 219. Michael Waltz and Elise Stefanik are leaving to join the Trump
00:00:57.460 administration. That means the 217 to 215 margin in the crucial early months of Trump's presidency.
00:01:02.740 That is a zero vote margin. A single defection means a bill cannot pass with Democratic votes.
00:01:08.020 Look, they're making demands and passed as prologue shows their right to do that, especially in a world
00:01:14.040 of these razor thin margins. They should ask because they know that the Speaker is hemmed in anyway.
00:01:19.140 And so 99 percent of the members that I've been speaking to and who will go to the Capitol today
00:01:24.280 to vote for the Speaker believe that Johnson should be fine. But they also know that there's a
00:01:29.360 permission structure for chaos as predicated by two years ago, the last time we did this,
00:01:34.900 only with Kevin McCarthy at the helm and not Mike Johnson. So there is an incentive structure for
00:01:40.000 being a holdout. But I think and Congressman Gabe Amo and I were having this conversation on way too
00:01:44.220 early. We will see a lot just by the way that this process actually goes, because they vote
00:01:49.440 alphabetically. You know that when you get to M, you're going to lose one. That is the only one that
00:01:54.460 Johnson actually can lose. But we're going to see members like Burchette at B, Crane at C. And if any
00:02:01.440 of them vote present, that means that the number is no longer 218 for Johnson. It lowers the threshold.
00:02:06.960 If they vote no, then you know that the entire round is moot and that Johnson's not going to get it on
00:02:12.180 that balloting round. Hakeem Jeffries, of course, will stay at the 215 hard votes that he has in
00:02:17.740 his corner because Democrats have shown consistency and their willingness to go along with leadership
00:02:23.060 as a united front. But Republicans, the alphabet's actually going to be quite instructive here.
00:02:27.700 And we'll see. Do they let him twist in the wind for a round or two? Do they instead just get this
00:02:32.260 whole thing over with? Because the prevailing view at the end of the day is that no one else can get
00:02:36.860 to 218. But that's the conventional wisdom until it's not. Does he have the votes?
00:02:41.960 I think so. I mean, obviously, Thomas Massey's indicated he's not going to support Mike. But
00:02:45.680 Mike's a good man, a man of character, a man of integrity. What I said this one when I seconded
00:02:50.540 his nomination in front of the conference, I said, you know, hard work doesn't guarantee success,
00:02:55.100 but it sure improves your chances. And Mike Johnson has worked his tail off as our speaker.
00:03:00.420 I hope he gets reelected today. I think he will.
00:03:02.980 Um, and the second thing, I think the main reason here is, is look on November 50, American people
00:03:08.460 said, secure the border, bring down prices, bring down crime and stop the weaponization
00:03:13.980 of government against we, the people. The best way to get that done is to come together today,
00:03:19.160 unite behind Speaker Johnson and start working with President Trump to accomplish what the
00:03:23.440 people told us to do. So I hope that's what happens today. And I think, I think that is,
00:03:28.140 uh, I think it will. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because
00:03:39.100 we're going to medieval on these people. You're just not got a free shot. All these networks lying
00:03:44.540 about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:49.320 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
00:03:52.480 going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my
00:03:59.560 soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and
00:04:06.040 what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:13.660 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:04:22.480 It's a Friday, three January in the year of Lord 2025. I know a lot of people, you know,
00:04:28.480 you rang out the new year and had all of your, um, you made your resolutions for the new year
00:04:35.320 starting was a Tuesday night and Wednesday, but this for, um, political process is really the
00:04:41.600 change of the guard. This is the first part of the 118th Congress and the 118th Congress ought to be
00:04:47.240 very near and dear to your hearts. This audience, because this audience for the first time in the
00:04:53.060 history of the Republic, you removed a speaker of the house, a sitting speaker of the house. That
00:04:56.800 was Kevin McCarthy kicked into the dustbin of history. In fact, his efforts to involve himself
00:05:02.900 in elections on the revenge tour against Matt Gaetz failed. So he's now off in Silicon Valley
00:05:08.960 working with the tech bros on doing something with artificial intelligence. And of course,
00:05:13.460 if you had to have somebody leading, thinking about investments in, in, uh, artificial intelligence,
00:05:19.660 the first pick on your list would be Kevin McCarthy. He'd be a top draft pick, right?
00:05:25.380 Uh, he did get his revenge on, uh, eventually on Gaetz because they leaked, uh, the, um, the ethics
00:05:31.560 report. Gaetz was never charged. The cert, you know, the justice department walked away, the FBI walked
00:05:36.680 away, but he got it leaked. Matt Gaetz has just tweeted, um, that Johnson's going to be
00:05:43.180 approved in the first round of day for the 119th. He's not, um, he's, he, Matt did not show up
00:05:49.100 for whatever reason. Matt did not show up. Uh, I guess he got his, his new gig as a, uh, as a,
00:05:54.340 he's got a talk show out in California on San Diego with the Herrings and one American news.
00:05:59.580 Great folks over there. Um, but let's talk about what, there's a lot of tactics and a lot of things
00:06:06.520 going on, people behind the scenes and, you know, things go, let's pull the camera back and talk about
00:06:11.140 particularly for this audience, because you're going to be once again, called upon, uh, to be
00:06:17.680 quite active in, um, in, uh, this effort. Uh, probably not today. And I'm not saying today's
00:06:24.400 pro forma. I think a lot of issues will come up and behind the scenes they can, they've come up
00:06:28.560 like, what is the purpose? What are we doing? What is this all about? Well, we know that this,
00:06:35.380 uh, country is, is, uh, radically off track. We are a post-constitutional country. We are,
00:06:41.820 have really, uh, only hang on to this constitutional Republic that was bequeathed to us for many,
00:06:47.520 many generations who sacrifice either died in combat or, or, uh, through tough work and tough
00:06:54.500 labor passes down to us, uh, a very precious gift, a constitutional Republic, and also the sacred
00:07:00.040 trust of American citizenship. And that has been the whole, the whole country, the sovereignty of the
00:07:08.700 country, the sovereignty of the citizens, uh, sovereign will of the people has been abused.
00:07:13.540 It's just been abused. It's the reason that Donald Trump could come out of nowhere,
00:07:18.280 literally nowhere politically. You'd never had a figure like president Trump kind of come out of
00:07:23.320 media or the business community. He was mocked and ridiculed. Um, you know, came out of nowhere,
00:07:29.320 won the 2016 primary, uh, to the shock of the Republican party, because go back, they had like
00:07:37.260 15, 16, 17, each vertical, whether it's a libertarian with Rand Paul, whether it was the
00:07:42.340 establishment with Jeb Bush, whether it was the neocon with Marco Rubio, whether it was the
00:07:47.280 constitutional conservative of Ted Cruz, pick them all. Ben Carson, uh, you just had, you had,
00:07:54.620 you had every different element had their, had their candidate. And from the Kochs to all the
00:08:00.700 interest groups, the conservatives groups, a billion dollars had gone into the promotion of
00:08:05.540 what that meant, right? Of, of in that vertical, the nomenclature and the ideas and how they connected
00:08:12.240 together for that vertical. And they had, you know, all the support. And president Trump cut through
00:08:17.900 that like a, uh, like a, um, a Sith through grass, right? In 16. In fact, Chris Hayes played the other
00:08:27.320 night, a, uh, from my old radio show, Breitbart News Daily, of which was really a caller show. I would
00:08:34.040 have guests, you know, a couple of guests. It was three hour show in the morning, six to nine on
00:08:37.980 Sirius XM, um, caller driven. And, uh, back in March of 2016, Chris Hayes had the, uh, I was on
00:08:47.800 the radio and I had a guest that guest was Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller had just come off of just
00:08:52.680 sessions staff where he kind of was the sessions was the intellectual architect of the anti amnesty
00:08:59.900 movement, the anti really open borders movement. Then that was infested in, in Congress. Uh, we had
00:09:06.840 beaten it back a little bit in 2014, 2013 and 2014 with a, uh, young unknown Congressman named Dave
00:09:13.260 Bratt, which a young woman named Julia Hahn, who was a producer for Laura Ingram. And of course the
00:09:18.160 team at Breitbart, uh, were able to win a primary against a sitting majority leader. First time in
00:09:24.340 American history. You'll hear that a lot. First time in American history, first time in American
00:09:28.860 history, first time in American history. Now, how did all this happen? Because as folks become aware,
00:09:34.540 right, of the, of the true situation of how the, uh, not just the tech oligarchs and the Lords of
00:09:40.380 easy money, but how the corporatist system works in this country. And remember, we're all limited
00:09:45.860 government capitalists, or at least that's what you've been sold through the Republican party and
00:09:50.880 Fox news. You're, you're a limited government, you know, capitalist, a patriot. Um, but that is not
00:09:57.080 really, that's, that is what's sold to you. That's not what's delivered to you. And anytime you can sit
00:10:02.800 there and explain to the American people and show them the information, what reality is,
00:10:06.780 you get a Dave Brad that beats an Eric Cantor. He was, McLaughlin, who's the president's, one of the
00:10:12.100 president's pollsters, had, uh, Dave Brad down 40 points the night before the June, 2014 primary.
00:10:20.180 Dave Brad, I think one by 12 points. Dave Brad raised the total amount of money that Eric Cantor spent
00:10:28.600 on one dinner with a lobbyist and donors in the, in the official report. I think Dave raised 125,000
00:10:35.120 bucks total. He won because of a grassroots revolt. President Trump in March of 16, I'm on the radio
00:10:42.500 and guess what? I'm talking to Stephen Miller about H1B visas. And what are we talking about? Uh,
00:10:48.540 after this came right after the, um, the, uh, super Tuesday, which took place in March,
00:10:53.440 president Trump kind of ran the tables and it looked like he was on a roll to, uh, win the
00:10:58.580 Republican nomination against all odds. And they were in little, they were in meltdown. Karl Rove
00:11:03.000 convened a group of these, I think it was 54 donors of some resort off of South Carolina. And they were
00:11:09.580 going to go down and put all this money in, in a stop Trump movement. This is when the infamous is
00:11:15.760 right around the time. And I think this came out right before super Tuesday, the infamous never Trump
00:11:21.560 cover of the national review that had all the, you know, the, the, uh, the conservative superstars,
00:11:27.980 the influencers of that time influences a little different business today. And we'll talk about that
00:11:32.820 here about what, what's going to happen today, but they got together. We talked about H1B visas, how they
00:11:38.340 wanted to do it. President Trump was adamantly against HB1 visas. I explained to, to, uh, Stephen Miller,
00:11:45.200 Stephen Miller explained to me how you had these waves of kind of immigration, but now they had a system
00:11:51.420 set up. They had actually rigged the system. And this is why Natalie and I over the last couple of days
00:11:56.040 have been talking about, there is no legal immigration. That's, that's a fallback. Now, what we have now is
00:12:00.900 a crisis because we have 12 million of which they admit 12 million to 15 million, which I think is the real
00:12:06.200 number, but 12 million that just came in on Biden's watch. This is nobody previous, just, just on Biden's
00:12:11.800 watch 12 to 15 million illegal aliens here to crush the, the, the, the, uh, um, the cost of
00:12:20.040 unskilled labor and to add a little more to GDP because whatever they don't send home, they spend
00:12:25.060 on Doritos or they spend on just basically scraping by and trying to live hand to mouth here in the
00:12:31.200 United States to the detriment of African Americans and, uh, and Hispanic citizens. And this is one of
00:12:36.400 the reasons people started coming to president Trump because they look in their cities and they see
00:12:39.420 these huge problems, the destruction of the education system, the healthcare system and crime
00:12:43.840 and all that. And they say, Hey, I don't want that. I didn't vote for that. If Democrats do, I won't
00:12:47.960 vote for it. I won't support it. But then you get to the legal aspects of it. You see, it's no real
00:12:53.020 legal immigration. It's all gamed. It's all gamed against American citizens, American citizens.
00:12:59.300 And so what we're sitting here today, and it's regardless whether it's Mike Johnson or Tom Emers
00:13:05.540 or, um, or, uh, Jim Jordan, you heard Jim Jordan at the end. He didn't want it.
00:13:12.620 It's about what's the task and purpose of the house. We just saw what Johnson and, and, and Jim
00:13:20.160 Jordan said, he worked his tail off. He's worked his tail off. Well, we love rewarding effort. We're
00:13:27.180 a big believer in work. As you know, you work very hard here, just being a part of the war and posse.
00:13:32.260 You're always read this. He was saying, read this, do this, call this, go out there and do this.
00:13:38.200 Use your agency, use your agency, use your agency. And it's manifested in tremendous ways, huge ways.
00:13:46.720 But Johnson was the guy that just, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, dropped a bomb on us,
00:13:54.140 a 1,500 page bill that added hundreds of billions of dollars with no offsets to already four or 500 or
00:14:04.160 four or 500 billion dollars that was going to be in the CR, which, you know, we hate CRs. So you're
00:14:09.080 talking about, I don't know, 750, 800 billion dollars of spending. And he had worked his tail off
00:14:16.120 with Hakeem Jeffries. He had. There may be no alternative. President Trump may be whipping
00:14:23.300 for Speaker Johnson. And maybe it's all because we don't want Jamie Raskin to screw up things on
00:14:28.400 Monday and to get President Trump certified. That may be the case. But we have to talk about
00:14:34.320 the task and purpose of all this. Where exactly are we headed? Not at what the potholes, what are
00:14:41.540 they going to be the unforced errors of the Trump movement of President Trump? That's all very clear
00:14:47.720 right in front of us. Short break. Back in a moment.
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00:16:10.860 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:16:17.800 Okay, so behind the scenes has been any number of deals that have been cut, both structurally,
00:16:27.040 about process, and about policy. So those three things. Get those out in front of you as you think
00:16:33.700 about this. Both structural issues about how the joint is run, process issues about how the joint
00:16:41.360 is run, and then policies about exactly what we're trying to accomplish. You just heard Jim Jordan
00:16:45.960 sitting there going, you know, we're going to close the border and we're going to get crime down and get
00:16:50.500 defense up and, you know, stop the weaponization of government. All the things that you fought for
00:16:55.100 and many others. I think just from a tactical point of view, and here's how our coverage is going to go
00:17:03.760 today. They're calling the 118th. And if we, as soon as they get on the floor, if we can, if Denver
00:17:09.300 can just put the box up, don't take my, you know, particularly since I cleaned up this morning,
00:17:15.800 don't take my lovely visage away, but just put a box when you get down because they're supposed to be
00:17:20.240 coming to the floor. I think they're called and they're supposed to wander in about, I don't know,
00:17:23.940 11, 1130. This is the end of the 118th Congress. They're going to go and they'll be there for a
00:17:30.440 few minutes. I think they'll call the recess and then they'll officially end, I think at 1155. So
00:17:34.580 the historic 118th Congress, and it was historic if for nothing more than citizens finally stood up
00:17:42.540 that had voted for a party and worked their tail off in the 22 midterm and were betrayed. And
00:17:49.980 President Trump reinforced our, what the actions we took, he reinforced the other day, he said,
00:17:58.160 Kevin McCarthy cut the dumbest deal it's ever been cut in the history of Congress. And he was
00:18:02.360 therefore removed. That was the two year uncapped debt ceiling of what you let Biden run up, I don't
00:18:11.600 know, five or six trillion dollars and got us deeper into the hole. That debt ceiling, by the way,
00:18:15.600 ladies and gentlemen, just went back into effect yesterday. So we're now back in this and this is
00:18:22.300 why they've started working on emergency measures or whatever it is to make sure that cash is coming
00:18:26.780 in can get paid. We have, and let's go back to the three lines of work, and the three lines of work
00:18:34.780 of President Trump in his second term, the crisis that is before us. And it leads into what the
00:18:41.020 confirmation is going to be. So this will all be of a piece. And when the 119th Congress comes in
00:18:47.380 today at noon, five minutes after the end of the historic 118th Congress, I believe even a more
00:18:53.680 historic 119th Congress will convene. And the first order of business will be the selection of
00:18:58.660 a speaker. And that's why we're here today. And we'll be covering that throughout the day here on
00:19:02.700 Real America's Voice in the War Room. Now, because of the thin majorities, and also because of people
00:19:08.360 like Matt Gaetz has resigned, and Matt's, I don't think, showing up today. And a couple of people have
00:19:13.180 been, you know, Stefanik and Waltz and others have been taken out to the administration as soon as
00:19:19.320 they're sworn in, or as soon as Waltz raises his hand on the 20th, they come out. It's going to be
00:19:23.600 tight. Eventually, you're not going to be able to lose a vote. Today, you can only use one vote
00:19:27.780 in Massey. And by the way, Massey's brain, he's from MIT, as you know, we're not huge fans all the
00:19:34.300 time. And particularly, he's never been a supporter of President Trump. But I think it's deeper than
00:19:38.080 just President Trump. It's about spending. Now, a lot of these negotiations behind the scenes and
00:19:43.620 process were to do a couple things. Number one, to appease the House Freedom Caucus, or more of the
00:19:50.680 conservative people, particularly the people of budget hawks, it was to put Chip Roy in as a head
00:19:56.200 of the Rules Committee. Because as you've learned here now in the war room, because we show you the
00:20:01.100 receipts and you learn process, and a lot of this is about process, because process actually leads to
00:20:06.240 what the policy is and to the ultimate outcome. And so heretofore, a lot of people say, well, that's
00:20:10.780 too boring. But you understand because you've used your agency and you now have power,
00:20:15.620 and they fear you. You've had to know how this works. So the Rules Committee, as you now know,
00:20:20.880 controls kind of the floor of the House. And the rules is basically where the bills kind of get cut
00:20:26.240 up and repurposed. And you know, what exactly are you voting on? The Rules Committee is quite powerful.
00:20:32.640 In the great fight of 2023, two years ago, basically today, remember, we went round after round
00:20:43.660 and those were structural changes. What were those changes to get more conservatives on the
00:20:49.020 Rules Committee to make sure that you could only have vacate the chair with one vote to basically
00:20:54.100 have 12 appropriations bills. So you could actually see all the appropriations bills, because that's
00:20:59.120 where the money really gets allocated, what's going to be spent. And you could see what it's
00:21:02.660 being spent on. And you remember this audience that stayed up all night, I think it was in the
00:21:08.180 summer of 2022. I believe the first time that we hit it, 2022. Stayed a ball night in that summer,
00:21:15.500 night after night. And you got to see, and it was amazing, because I would stay up with you,
00:21:19.280 and I would really watch the comments. And what I was amazed about was the perceptive comments from
00:21:24.040 everyday Americans watching this process. And you saw your betrayal every night. You would see
00:21:30.740 Burchett or MTG or, you know, one of the hawks get in there, and they would have a fire-breathing
00:21:35.820 thing about why, you know, CISA should be not funded. And then you'd have David Joyce,
00:21:40.200 one of these moderates, would get up there and say, oh, no, this is terrific. This is not even
00:21:43.720 the Democrats. The Democrats are going to, you know, particularly the weird, you know, Adams family
00:21:48.760 Democrats would be up there all night. Looked like, where did these people come from? You got them from
00:21:52.920 a, you know, Plan 9 from outer space extras. But you saw the betrayal in living color right there.
00:22:01.620 And you saw the way the sausage is made, because when you talk about these cute terms of drain the
00:22:06.260 swamp and all this, you got to get down to it. That in the biggest and most powerful economy in
00:22:11.480 history, that depends upon federal spending and massive federal spending, you have massive vested
00:22:18.660 interest. You have the capital markets of Wall Street. You have the, this engine of, of growth out
00:22:24.980 in Silicon Valley, the, the, the sociopathic tech overlords. But then you have the corporate,
00:22:29.120 corporate America in every different aspect, the insurance industry, the banking industry,
00:22:33.180 the, the chicken farmers, all of it. Every, and everybody's got lobbyists. Everybody's got people
00:22:37.860 there advocating your point. And who do you have for you? Well, you've got Trump, you got the war
00:22:44.200 room, you got a handful of other people. But what we did was able to expose that. And you see it in
00:22:48.640 living color. And what did it do? And empower you more and more and more and more. Did we win every
00:22:54.320 fight? We did not. Did we win enough? Yes, we did. We haven't come close to solving the problem and
00:23:01.160 hence our partner's conversation today. And going forward, it looks like Johnson is going to be the,
00:23:09.540 he's the least offensive and there is no alternative. The deals that they've tried to make are not to
00:23:15.660 look at a Jordan who is people, a nice guy, doesn't have the support, doesn't even have the support a lot
00:23:21.580 of the conservatives because they don't think he's got a staff that actually can bring and do what
00:23:25.520 you need to do to be the house. And this one been one of the big complaints about Johnson. First,
00:23:31.040 there were too many McCarthy guys. And then there were too many people that would say one thing when
00:23:34.940 Johnson wanted to do another. So there's been mass confusion and a lot of mass confusion over that,
00:23:39.200 that a 1500 page bill, which I just say that to me is the marker of Johnson. That is how he thinks.
00:23:45.620 He thinks he can, he sit there and go to Trump and go to the UFC fights and, you know,
00:23:50.340 hang out at the box at the Naval Academy armed West point a game and, and never bring it up and just
00:23:55.540 drop this thing. And, Oh, you know, and say, well, you know, we have, you know, we have divided
00:23:59.760 government and this is just what happens. And when you have really Hakeem Jeffries bill,
00:24:05.180 which is just unacceptable. So they try to cut things with Chip Roy as, as, as rules committee
00:24:11.180 and the moderates and others said, absolutely no way we can't live with that. That's just more of
00:24:15.200 the madman, the crazies taking control of the actual thing that gives you power,
00:24:19.500 kind of the whip hand. And they said, no, we won't do that. So that looks like it's off the
00:24:24.320 table. Then they also went in with certain just issues on spending. Hey, they have to be offsets.
00:24:31.840 There have to be, you know, we, we can't do these, you know, what is this? The debt ceiling and these
00:24:36.480 massive deficits, the people empowered us to come here to get control of the madness. And with three
00:24:40.980 lines of work, you've got, you've got to stop the beginning phase of the third world war,
00:24:45.200 the kinetic part. Cause we're into the third world war, but now you've got the kinetic part of it.
00:24:49.880 And president Trump's got to stop that. We've got to figure out, we can't fund Ukraine. You've got
00:24:53.000 all these issues. Then you've got the border and you've got the, uh, you got the, you've got a,
00:24:59.000 uh, you know, uh, mass deportations of 15 million people. And how's that's going to work? And now
00:25:03.880 you've got all this stuff on the HB one visas. We realize the whole thing is rigged and people are
00:25:07.880 trying to push, push to get expansion of that. And that's all going to be stopped. So you got that
00:25:11.780 whole thing, which is the sovereignty. And then in the middle, you got probably the thing itself.
00:25:17.440 And that is this issue that we're essentially bankrupt. We are. When I say bankrupt, I mean,
00:25:25.120 totally, total revenues that come in, think of your business, think of yourself, total revenues
00:25:29.720 that come in versus total outlays that you put out. And now we have a gap and that gap is big.
00:25:35.360 That gap is about a trillion dollars a year, trillion and a half to true to train. They always say it's
00:25:39.740 this number and it always comes to the higher number, right? Why is that? Well, it always comes
00:25:44.620 back. Same thing. The revenues come in short and the expenses are high. If you run a business or you
00:25:49.860 run your own life, that happens in life. Hey, guess what? It didn't materialize. What I thought I was
00:25:55.060 going to get is a salary or a bonus, right? Or my sales. I didn't hit my sales. I didn't get my
00:25:59.900 commissions. I came in short. Oh, and guess what? You know, Sally needed to go to the dentist or,
00:26:05.080 you know, Bobby needed something for some traveling team and we had to pay for that or
00:26:10.820 all the expenses that come up and needed a new set of tires, right? So you have these gaps, but here
00:26:17.920 because we have the greatest export in the world that everybody needs, the U.S. dollar,
00:26:23.960 the United States dollar, we can continue to have, we got this magic machine. It's called the Federal
00:26:29.500 Reserve and they just keep kind of printing money, right? With the Treasury Department. We just
00:26:34.600 kind of make up bonds and they buy them. We pretend they're bonds and they pretend they give us
00:26:38.540 money and we, the gap in the world takes that because the world needs dollars and we're the
00:26:42.900 prime reserve currency and every transaction has got to go and got to be converted into that. So
00:26:47.040 the world's got to suck on it and the, and the purchase price value of the dollar keeps going down
00:26:51.480 and you get these kind of ornery, you know, the natives are restless because the BRICS nations are
00:26:56.560 sitting there going, hey guys, uh, that thing you give us, these dollars, they keep depreciating.
00:27:02.220 And like under Biden, it's 25% less than, you know, we kind of signed on for. How's that work?
00:27:08.540 And maybe we, uh, you know, maybe we talk to the guys at Birch Gold and maybe we come up with an
00:27:12.720 alternative currency, some basket of currencies. Maybe we take a stable country like India or China or
00:27:18.080 some wild thing like that. And we take the risk on the, on this currency. But if you keep doing that,
00:27:23.900 we got to do it. And so as we're here on the eve of a massive transition, one of the biggest
00:27:30.940 transitions in American history, the return of president Trump, historic return to the imperial
00:27:36.460 capital today, we get down to the business of what that's going to mean. In all likelihood,
00:27:42.300 it's going to be Johnson. There's a whole bunch of things we want to, if Boebert votes against her,
00:27:46.060 if they vote president, it changes the math and there'll be all kinds of scrutiny,
00:27:48.780 but it looks like it will be Johnson. And it looks like Johnson is called, it's called their
00:27:54.480 bluffs on a certain couple of very powerful things, the rules committee and also spending and
00:27:58.740 everything else. But we're going to talk about what that's going to mean and what that's going
00:28:02.980 to mean for the war and posse. We'll return in a moment.
00:28:08.740 Could you be free? Could it be true that everything...
00:28:10.820 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:28:13.200 Okay. For those in the audience, particularly in live chats, that are slightly disappointed
00:28:22.800 with what the outcome may be today, bear in mind, folks, the way we keep winning is you
00:28:29.400 got to pick your fights. You have to pick your fights when you have maximum leverage. You have
00:28:34.220 to pick your fights that can get the outcomes you're trying to drive. So let's go back to the
00:28:38.480 outcomes. The outcomes, we know we have to get the financial situation sorted. We know
00:28:42.400 we have to not get drawn into these third world wars, but we have to try to put them to an end
00:28:47.320 without American involvement. And we know that we have to take care of, first of all, the illegal
00:28:53.800 aliens are here, which is a massive effort, a monumental effort, a Herculean effort to get them
00:28:58.880 out of the country, right? And also now to stop the games and to address the fact that American
00:29:05.860 workers and American citizens are being destroyed by a legal immigration system. It's not legal at all.
00:29:12.400 And that doesn't even talk to the issues with the deep state and the administrative state
00:29:17.620 and to make sure that this is not done again and the investigations, all that. So we've got to move
00:29:21.440 down. And as you know, this audience knows, Johnson is not our first pick. But what are the
00:29:29.820 alternatives? But right now there's, to be brutally frank, there's just no alternatives. Nobody,
00:29:34.540 Emmers and Jordan, who are the only two that even had staffs that could be prepared to do this
00:29:38.920 because the job is quite complicated, given the fact of what we're going to talk about here in
00:29:43.100 the second, to actually move a legislative package forward. President Trump has the ability to do the
00:29:49.540 executive orders and he will do executive orders. I expect, anticipate a flurry of executive orders
00:29:55.100 coming through. Although, let's be blunt, the Senate is not exactly working in conjunction with
00:30:02.960 President Trump to push his nominees forward as quickly as possible. Let's go back in time.
00:30:07.760 What have I advocated? I'm a big advocate of flood the zone. In other words, you come in a
00:30:12.180 concentrated mash and so overwhelm your opposition with so many different things that you can drive
00:30:17.480 and push your program forward. My recommendation from the beginning is that, yes, they would convene
00:30:22.880 today on the 3rd, right? They would get a speaker or fight through the weekend for a speaker and then
00:30:28.560 on Monday show up and certify President Trump as the 47th President of the United States. And the
00:30:34.820 next day, on the 7th, you would start the hearings and you'd start the hearings at the committees and
00:30:40.020 you'd drive it, drive it, drive it. That's not going to happen. Now, there's a host of reasons why it's
00:30:45.200 not going to happen. Some of the things the guys weren't done. Others, they had these kind of historic
00:30:49.780 by custom and tradition procedures they do. Like, we got to get it 28 days in advance and we have to
00:30:55.640 review it and the FBI has to do it. And remember, I fought. Don't get the FBI involved. Do it. Do it on a
00:31:01.520 don't let the deep state drive the process here. Do it on your own. And you've seen the horrible
00:31:06.640 situation of the FBI over the last couple of days. Another joke where it should be terminated
00:31:10.960 immediately. Cash should be starting to be confirmed next week and be there on the afternoon
00:31:14.760 of the 20th. That's not going to happen. I think the confirmation, just to take you back through the
00:31:19.220 schedule. So the 118th Congress will wind down today before 12 noon. The 119th Congress will pick
00:31:26.300 up in the first order of business for any other business done is they will select a speaker.
00:31:30.200 Now, you would anticipate it. We go 15 rounds and somebody would pop up and an Embers or who's not
00:31:35.880 exactly a Trump guy. Right. In fact, if he had been less anti-Trump, there would probably been a big
00:31:41.860 movement because he does have a staff as the whip that is fairly sophisticated. But he's never really
00:31:47.280 been a Trump guy. Although people, I think, like the cut of his jib, never been really a Trump guy.
00:31:52.500 And Jim Jordan doesn't want it. Just doesn't want it. Came out right there. Worked his tail off. He's
00:31:58.080 supporting Johnson. They went to the people who approached Jordan. Doesn't want it. So there you
00:32:02.640 there. Now you're limited to what it is. But anyway, you pick the speaker. Tomorrow they have a
00:32:07.440 conference. And tomorrow is really where a lot of the work is going to get done. They're going to have
00:32:13.180 a conference, I think, at Fort McNair. We're going to discuss this in detail tomorrow on the
00:32:16.800 Saturday show live. And at the conference, something's going to happen. Now, I want you
00:32:22.420 to get your number two pencil out and write this down because this is signal, not noise.
00:32:29.040 Reconciliation. Now, what am I talking about? It's kind of a gimmick. It's something in the
00:32:34.380 structure and procedures of things is how you can actually get a it's all to avoid the filibuster
00:32:41.260 in the Senate. It's all to how do you not have to get 60 votes in the Senate, but you can do
00:32:45.420 a reconciliation. Biden used it. We use it in the front first Trump term. It's a it's a device
00:32:51.860 that's used to make sure you can get away from the Senate's filibuster. So if you've got a majority,
00:32:56.140 you can get your stuff done. Here we have actual two reconciliations, just the way it works off a
00:33:01.980 budgeting process. You have your ability to do two reconciliations in one fiscal year,
00:33:06.960 which is pretty extraordinary. Doesn't happen all the time, but we've got it now.
00:33:10.100 So tomorrow they're going to discuss, you know, the path forward. So if Johnson's in or Emmer's
00:33:16.300 Wednesday day or Jordan tomorrow, they're going to have this conference all day, nine in the morning
00:33:20.740 to five in the afternoon. They're going to go through the whole legislative agenda. Now we have
00:33:24.920 talked from the very beginning that working away, beavering away, beavering away, beavering away,
00:33:30.940 that since the CR was going to be quite simple, just a couple of pages long, you should be spending
00:33:35.580 time on the target date of the afternoon of the 20th of January and the 21st that you needed a
00:33:41.640 reconciliation bill ready to go. So when president Trump takes the oath of office, goes to the parade,
00:33:47.880 stands on the stand, sees everybody goes by, walks into the Oval Office. He actually has something
00:33:54.000 there besides signing, you know, 50 executive orders that undoes everything Biden did on the border
00:34:00.300 and reverse it back to what we did in 2017 with Stephen Miller right there with the pen, bang,
00:34:05.560 bang, bang, sign it, sign it, sign it now. It's actual, you can go effectuate because the president
00:34:09.480 has ordered it. Not a law, but for the term of his presidency is an executive order. Then at the same
00:34:15.960 time, you would put a reconciliation bill and that reconciliation bill would be 100% focused on
00:34:20.640 immigration. It'd be focused on the border and the wall and the deportations and everything else we
00:34:27.760 could get in there about these visas and shutting it all down and making sure that we would make
00:34:34.080 America great again. You would do that. And oh, by the way, maybe you throw in some energy and even
00:34:38.560 to make it more palpable, and I know you hate this, but throw in a couple toys. You throw in a few
00:34:43.940 things for defense. So it'd be immigration. It would be immigration. It would be energy, right? Because
00:34:49.880 we've got to get that, remember, the key to the Trump economy is full spectrum energy dominance. We've
00:34:54.000 got to get back that. So it'd be energy. Give Burgum, these guys, something to start, you know, firing
00:35:00.460 off the football and throwing a little defense. Then, and so after, so after Saturday, you come agree
00:35:09.160 that you come back, you certify Trump on some, Jamie Raskin's pulling all his things, but you certify Trump
00:35:14.060 on January 6th, the anniversary of the January 6th of the, of the folks, you know, this demonstration
00:35:21.080 that kind of went awry, and the FBI, instead of hunting down radical jihadis and all this,
00:35:25.920 or sending the FBI, oh, it's homegrown. What, dude? It's homegrown. It's homegrown off radical,
00:35:30.980 radical jihadi, you know, guys issuing fought was, the imams. That's how these guys get,
00:35:40.440 get radicalized. They say, well, it's not an immigration problem. It's damn right it's an
00:35:44.200 immigration problem. You're letting radicals in your country that are turning, you know,
00:35:47.980 former soldiers into radicals. But you get to, you, so you get to, you get to certification,
00:35:56.220 right, on Monday, get certification, and then you're supposed to go right into the confirmation,
00:36:00.540 sometime out of the confirmation. No, now you're going to have an air pocket, all the way down
00:36:04.180 to, I don't know, Thursday the 16th, Friday the 17th. We're going to start having some confirmations
00:36:09.360 at the committee level. These are not, they have not been voted on. So therefore, it means
00:36:14.460 on the afternoon of the 20th, at least as it looks now, and I could be wrong, I don't know
00:36:19.700 if you're going to get a secretary, I don't know if Pete Hegseth, you're going to have
00:36:22.800 a Bondi, you're going to have Scott Besant. The president's going to show up, at least as
00:36:27.360 I see it right now, and I could be wrong by a couple hours, maybe they've updated it,
00:36:31.300 because you've got to go to the committee first. The committee has to vote, and then it's
00:36:34.120 got to go to the floor. The Democrats are going to have something to say about this.
00:36:37.760 And you're not going to have, it looks like now, all of a sudden I'm hearing that in the same time
00:36:44.880 that Mar-a-Lago and the president are whipping for Johnson, and that's fine. If Johnson's your guy,
00:36:49.600 you own Johnson. But is Johnson the guy that can take us through precision engineering? Because
00:36:56.100 we're about to hit turbulence like we've never hit before. As President Trump tries to implement
00:37:02.220 this plan, it's not that the established order, the rhinos and the opposition, the Democrats are
00:37:08.820 just going to sit there and go, man, we were waiting for Trump to arrive in this great. Yeah,
00:37:12.120 Trump's fantastic. We love all these things, particularly these big cuts in spending. We
00:37:16.220 love that. And tax increases for the wealthy donors, we love that. And we're just going to
00:37:23.820 be great. We just embrace this. You're going to deport 15 million people who we see as future
00:37:28.100 voters or the Republican chamber of commerce, see them as consumers in low cost labor. They're
00:37:33.520 just going to be hugging Trump and say, this is amazing. Why didn't we think of this? We're so
00:37:36.500 glad you arrived. We're so glad you came back to save us. You think that's going to happen?
00:37:42.680 Let's say it's not. So Mike Johnson's your guy. So you, so you own Johnson, but not just that.
00:37:49.680 I think in the reality is there were no, cause these guys were asking, well, hold on, if we got to
00:37:54.480 take Johnson, let's have Chip Roy's rules. Now I can't do Chip Roy's rules cause he's, you know,
00:37:59.980 anti-Trump. He's out for himself. He's too thing. The rules are going to be too tough. He's too much
00:38:04.320 of a fiscal hawk. Can't do that. Fine. Can't do that. But then let's get some guarantees. How about
00:38:09.140 we have offsets when you come with this budget stuff? If you're going to have any increases,
00:38:12.840 it's got to be offsets. Uh, if you're going to do this and we got to have deficit neutral,
00:38:17.040 we got to do all this. My understanding is not nothing. No, we're not going to do any of that.
00:38:20.580 Okay. Okie dokie. Uh, what about the first reconciliation? I guess we're going to do
00:38:26.720 that. Cause that's going to be delivered to president Trump on the 20th. Well, no,
00:38:29.640 now we understand. No, what we got to do is one reconciliation. And so you're going to put both
00:38:35.360 together. One is the second one. So it's going to be taxes, taxes, revenues, and the appropriation
00:38:40.560 is going to kind of prove it all in one big, ugly thing. Right. But it was going to have separated
00:38:47.360 from that separated from that was going to be the border immigration energy. So we could
00:38:53.500 get a clear boom shot of that right out of the gate, get muzzle velocity and let's get
00:38:57.740 on. Give me 50 executive orders. We're flooding the zone. I'm feeling good. Things are getting
00:39:02.440 accomplished. People are starting to go home. Nope. Now I think it's like one reconciliation.
00:39:10.560 Well, you know, the reconciliation, that's kind of a fancy term and it's kind of gimmick and
00:39:13.820 people's heads are hurting. It's like too much already, Bannon. It feels like an omnibus.
00:39:20.980 In fact, it kind of feels like, oh, I got it. The Warren Posse and Bannon and all these guys
00:39:29.480 have been yelling for years about, you got to get, you got to send them home. The open borders,
00:39:33.560 got to get rid of them. Got to send them home. We got to do a first thing and we're going to need
00:39:36.820 some money. So we're going to need like a record. We're going to need a bill to go with the executive
00:39:40.360 orders because executive orders. In an executive order, you can't create money in the executive
00:39:44.460 branch. Remember in the separation of powers in the constitution, only the legislative branch and
00:39:49.980 particularly only the house, because our founders said that's like the house of commons. So only the
00:39:54.920 house can generate revenue, can approve revenue, and they can also approve taxes and revenues coming
00:40:00.380 in. They also approve spending. All of that is in the house. That's one of the powers of the house.
00:40:04.200 It's there and every two years, you can throw these bums out if you don't like them.
00:40:09.540 So now it looks like, hey, maybe it's an omnibus. Now, and I am not a cynical person. People know
00:40:17.300 that. I'm not cynical. But it seems to me that with Johnson, this whole thing is that we're heading
00:40:24.580 down to an omnibus where they put the old gun to the head of the hardliners and they say at some
00:40:31.820 time, I don't know, let's pick a random date, March or April. And they come with another massive
00:40:38.220 sending bill, another huge deficit, and we need a waiver on the debt limit. And you got to agree
00:40:42.780 to all this. And oh, yeah, and the tax cuts was somehow we didn't come up. We missed. Where's that?
00:40:46.840 Oh, yeah, we forgot to put in that tax cut for Social Security for the troops. But we did cut a lot
00:40:54.220 of tax cuts for the wealthy. And if you want your deportations, if you want your money for the border
00:40:59.880 wall, if you want all that, your guns to your head, and you got to prove the whole thing.
00:41:05.280 Let's just have a partner's discussion up front. Let's just talk about what we're trying to
00:41:11.480 accomplish and how we're going to try to accomplish. And let's expose those people that are not trying
00:41:15.940 to accomplish it, like the radical Democrats, the corporatists, the lords of easy. You got the
00:41:20.820 lords of easy money on Wall Street. You got the sociopathic techno feudalist out in Silicon
00:41:26.040 Valley. You have the corporatists that are every day selling us out to the Chinese Communist Party
00:41:30.660 for higher margins. We understand who those guys are, and we understand what their interest is.
00:41:35.320 Okay? But let's just lay it all out on the table of exactly how we're trying to accomplish this.
00:41:40.620 Folks, we're in a jam. This country's in a crisis. This is a crisis. There's no easy solutions. I've
00:41:47.340 said this for years. Every year we've kicked a can down the road, you narrow your alternatives.
00:41:51.720 There ain't no easy solution. And guess what? There's no hide the football. Short break.
00:42:00.460 Birch Gold, end of the dollar empire. Modern monetary theory. Get up to speed. Back in a moment.
00:42:06.680 No more. Let's take down the CCP. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:42:15.720 Okay, Birch Gold, it's important for you to understand the modern monetary theory because
00:42:20.040 this is going to come up in high relief here in the next couple of weeks. There's going
00:42:25.880 to be this wish to wish this away. It can't be wished away. It's now at such a scale. It's
00:42:31.500 kind of the law of large numbers. It's so big. These deficits in this, you know, it's
00:42:36.220 still every 100 days, another trillion dollars. And you're going to see this in this budget
00:42:41.060 is going to come on because here's what they're going to try to do. And as you know, we'll
00:42:44.740 be at the forefront of this. They're going to try to say, well, we're getting, we're giving
00:42:47.240 you three and a half trillion dollars of cuts. And you can say, okay, can I see those three
00:42:51.440 and a half trillion dollars of cuts? And guess what? They all appear in years six, seven,
00:42:54.920 eight, because it's all done in 10 years. And I've told people, hey, I don't have
00:42:58.540 any interest in 10 years. I just don't. What I have interest in is, is in years one and
00:43:02.900 two. Show me years one and two. Let's, when we get over the hurdle of one and two, I can
00:43:07.140 buy into, this is like when I was an investment banker. I don't need to see your 10 year projections.
00:43:10.600 I need to see the latest 12 months because that's going to show me what history shows
00:43:14.780 and then the 12 months going forward. And let's keep it very simple. Let's just do sources
00:43:18.920 of revenues, you know, sources of proceeds and use of proceeds. Like where did your cash come
00:43:24.340 from and where is it going to? Just keep it simple. We'll keep it very simple.
00:43:27.620 And that's what you're going to have to see in this. Like, give me the, give me
00:43:31.680 the, um, the, the, the, the next 12 months or we're actually in a fiscal year. Tell
00:43:36.280 me about this fiscal year. Where are you cutting and where this cuts going to come
00:43:39.580 from? Is it going to come from defense? Is it going to come from the, um, you know,
00:43:43.600 just a random is going to come from the, the rocket program, uh, that Elon Musk is out
00:43:48.480 doing a financing at three at a $388 billion evaluation, $388 billion evaluation where
00:43:55.620 you just did one at $44 billion. And then you just did one at $4 billion when he first
00:44:00.280 started. So you went from $4 billion to $44 billion to $388 billion. Gosh, I guess that
00:44:04.460 has a pretty aggressive plan in there from the Pentagon. Maybe that is what Doge comes
00:44:09.660 in and takes a look at, but I'd like to see that. I'd like to see where the cuts are.
00:44:12.680 Doge is promised $2 trillion a year. I don't know. Cause the language isn't very precise.
00:44:16.480 Is that over 10 years? Is it year one? It's all these, you know, the AI, the artificial
00:44:20.740 intelligence is going to help us. Where, where's all that going to come from? That is where
00:44:25.560 this audience is going to get down into the, into the, into the nitty gritty. If there
00:44:29.520 was an alternative and president Trump had come up with an alternative today, there would
00:44:34.080 be a fight and speaker and Johnson would not be speaker of that. There's no doubt there,
00:44:38.360 there is a hunger and a thirst in there to get somebody else. There just is as much as
00:44:43.460 you want somebody else. There is a big effort. And we had sparts on the other day for a reason
00:44:47.840 to have her go through her list. And she's never really been at the forefront of these
00:44:52.220 budget fights. And that's where we had her on. Cause she's put out a whole list of things
00:44:55.280 and saying, Hey, he hasn't shown me. So we'll see where her vote goes. If she votes no, then
00:44:59.740 it's guess what? Let's go back to another round. Cause Massey's a hard no, and you can only
00:45:03.500 get one vote. But right now, and just to reiterate this, that Emers is not put his hat in the
00:45:09.800 ring and has shown no interest. He would have it if handed to him and his staff,
00:45:13.460 is probably the most sophisticated, but Hey, he ain't no Trump guy. Just not right. He's
00:45:18.800 not. Uh, and then he got Jordan who's as close to it. And Jordan is going to have his way
00:45:22.620 to kind of say, I don't want it. And people are just saying his staff is not ready for
00:45:26.160 it. So there you're there. That's where you are there. Um, no one else has really kind
00:45:30.900 of put together, you know, but the Byron Donalds of the world and that kind of next tier of people
00:45:35.060 have not put any, any effort to hear, to really make a case to president Trump or anyone
00:45:40.000 else that they're prepared to do it. Um, and so we are, we are, but even deeper than that is where
00:45:46.320 does this go? And it's, we're going to hit at a velocity of things are just going to happen.
00:45:53.200 And that's why this show is so important. And this audience is so important. We have to look
00:45:56.340 with total and complete clarity of the critical path of the process in front of us and what we
00:46:02.120 have to kind of juggle and keep the eye on the ball. If you want to make America great again,
00:46:07.160 if you want to stop the forever wars, stop the insane spending, deport people, close the board
00:46:13.200 and seal it. If basically you want to stop, uh, the, the theory of their case is to invade everyone
00:46:18.900 and invite everyone. If you want to stop that and at the same time, not bury yourself because now
00:46:25.180 financing the debt is going to be its own problem. And that's why you can't pay your credit cards at
00:46:29.840 the end of the month. If you want to do this, we have to have maniacal, maniacal focus on not
00:46:35.280 simply the things that matter, but where your agency in a collective basis adds huge, huge,
00:46:42.660 massive leverage. That's going to come sooner than you can realize because right now, and I
00:46:49.520 continue to reiterate this, president Trump is coming into Washington DC. That is not that different,
00:46:57.000 not that it's different in degree, but not in kind, different in degree, but not in kind
00:47:02.240 from when president Lincoln arrived in Washington DC in the spring of 1861 after winning the 1860
00:47:08.500 election. It is a hostile environment. There, the Southerners in the Senate, but particularly in
00:47:15.460 Buchanan's administration had stacked the agencies of government, the government itself with many
00:47:20.800 Southern sympathizers, with many people who believed in the rebellion, who believed in Southern
00:47:25.820 independence. And Lincoln had a massive problem when he first got there of getting his hands actually
00:47:31.200 in control of what then was a apparatus that is pales in comparison today. This administrative
00:47:37.260 state is actively hostile to president Trump. One of his key things is to deconstruct the
00:47:42.980 administrative state. That's a fancy term for doge or for getting rid of the regulations, going after
00:47:47.680 the bureaucrats, stopping the de-weaponization. It's all types of terms that go around that central
00:47:51.900 thesis, particularly, and also the same time destroy the deep state of which I've said. Also, that's what we
00:47:58.760 got to get cash like approved now. Pam Bondi approved now. John Ratcliffe approved now.
00:48:05.120 The CIA is a big part of this problem. The FBI is a central part of this problem. The DOJ is a central
00:48:09.600 part of this problem. You must seize the institutions. You must seize it immediately.
00:48:13.340 There is not, I think, a recognition that that is reality. So with all of this going on,
00:48:24.760 and the House going to be at the tip of this, with the Senate still being kind of the step-back
00:48:30.660 McConnell, let's try to block the Trump agenda as much as possible, regardless of the Josh Hawley's
00:48:35.800 you have, regardless of people out there that say, I support the Trump program, I'll try to move it
00:48:40.280 apart. The powers that be, and you see this with Thune being approved, it's an anti-Trump,
00:48:44.860 anti-MAGA. We'll wait these guys out. The whole purpose is to wait us out, to try to destroy Trump
00:48:51.360 and Trumpism. But the worst case they want to do is just wait it out. So you have to then reorient
00:48:57.560 and get muzzle velocity. Now, how are we going to do this, Steve? You know what? You're going to have
00:49:05.700 to wait through a commercial break. How's that sound? Natalie Winters is going to join us. I'm
00:49:10.340 going to have a few more pearls of wisdom. By the way, that's pretty unique. I never really take an
00:49:14.500 hour and just go through things. But it's time for a pardons discussion. You've got to be very
00:49:18.720 serious about this. If you want to take your country back, if you want to make America greater
00:49:21.880 again, I didn't say it was going to be easy, folks. It's not easy. It's going to be quite brutal.
00:49:28.060 There are going to be a lot of hurt feelings. There are going to be a lot of things said that people
00:49:32.280 years from now are going to wish they could take back. It just is what's going to happen. That's
00:49:37.160 in front of us. That's the reality. You're trying to turn around and save the greatest country in
00:49:44.400 mankind's history from where it's devolved to because of actions of interest groups.
00:49:52.800 That's a fight. I love the odds here. We're long MAGA and long America and long American citizens.
00:50:01.240 We've got quite a fight on our hands. Short break. Back in a moment.
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