On today's show, Stephen K. Baughman breaks down the results of the vote to elect Mike Johnson as the new Speaker of the House of Representatives, and what that means for the future of the 115th Congress.
00:05:45.620Here's a quote that there was a lively debate.
00:05:49.940Norman wanted transparency on the budget reconciliation process.
00:05:55.380Supposedly he got those assurances from the president, which Republicans plan to use to pass ambitious, ambitious legislation on the border, energy and taxes.
00:06:03.140Quote, we have got to make sure this Congress is as strong as possible when we go up against the Senate on the reconciliation package, because there are debates on what the reconciliation package even looks like.
00:06:16.260Right now, they're debating the rules on the floor.
00:06:18.100And there's some very different rules than you all fought for two years ago in 2023.
00:06:24.020Chip Roy, Congressman Chip Roy joins us.
00:06:26.440Congressman, walk us through what exactly we thought we might come out of here with you head of the rules committee and some specific language about deficit reduction, about, you know, bringing programs through that were deficit neutral, didn't add to the debt and had a reconciliation that was going to be one package on the border and then later taxes.
00:06:48.880Did any of that happen besides a gentleman's agreement that we're going to work together in reconciliation, sir?
00:06:54.480Not to my, you know, full liking in terms of where I would have preferred to land the plane today.
00:07:01.740Look, what I said, and would you just play the clip and I appreciate it, the clip on Fox, I won't repeat it.
00:07:08.360It is now Speaker Johnson's house to deliver.
00:07:10.540I would have preferred to have had stronger guardrails around that.
00:07:13.800I would have preferred to have a strong rules committee chairman.
00:07:16.480I'd be humbled to have been, you know, considered for that.
00:07:18.660But we need someone there that's the filter or the funnel to ensure that only good, solid, conservative things are getting to the floor and to make sure that everybody's voices can be heard with amendments and so forth.
00:07:29.620And then on reconciliation, we need to get a strong commitment out of the speaker and generally about that it's going to be a process that yields deficit reductions, that we're going to be smart about getting spending down using the reconciliation process.
00:07:41.660And then, yes, whatever the right process is, I'm in favor of the two bill approach.
00:07:47.060There's been some different opinions on that coming out of the transition team, but I can go either way.
00:07:53.300But I prefer the single I mean, the two bill approach, get border done, move forward quickly and then figure out how we manage getting a good package on spending and taxes.
00:08:01.800But I'll do whatever we need to do to work with the president's team to deliver.
00:08:05.860But my message today is just we are where we are.
00:08:08.060I'm going to go talk to some of my colleagues here in a minute about I'm looking up the TV, my my colleagues on the floor about where we are in the rules package.
00:08:17.280There's now an increase in the motion to vacate to nine.
00:08:20.540Some of my conservative colleagues kind of worked an agreement to prevent the moderates from wanting to have, you know, votes where they would try to target us if we vote against rules and so forth.
00:08:31.800Those were pushed aside in an agreement to raise the motion to vacate to nine.
00:08:35.120I would have probably just stuck with one and said, if you want to come after me, come after me.
00:08:39.880But, you know, you've got to figure out how to navigate all the votes.
00:08:43.860We need to fight now to see what's going to happen to this rules package.
00:08:48.520I've got to go down the floor and see.
00:08:49.940And then immediately we've got to get busy demanding that the reconciliation package reflects what we elected in November the president to do and us.
00:08:59.960There's been something that happened between November and today.
00:09:02.860I just want to make sure that we're on the record and people remember this conversation.
00:09:08.120President Trump wanted Johnson, fought for Johnson, said Johnson was the only guy who could do this.
00:09:24.320President Trump wanted to get this over with, get it done, get certified on Monday.
00:09:28.100But what happened between November and today is that Johnson and his team, the exact same team, delivered a 1,500-page negotiated deal with Hakeem Jeffries.
00:09:39.820And it had, you know, $400 or $500 billion of regular spending for the CR and had another couple of hundred billion dollars not offset.
00:09:49.300And he whined at the time, but we have divided government, and then he used Democrats.
00:09:52.400Tell me, coming out of today, what assurances, what guarantees, what's on paper that gets us anywhere where we weren't with the CR two weeks ago, sir?
00:10:06.580And that was problematic and disturbing to me.
00:10:09.260At this point, I'm making a leap of faith so that I can move alongside the president and the president's desire to stick with Speaker Johnson.
00:10:17.560But I'll tell you the one difference is, and the speaker knows this, and in my messaging today, I've been pretty clear.
00:10:38.460I can assure you that every vote is going to be scoured and looked at, and that we're going to be watching it like a hawk with respect to how we're moving stuff forward.
00:10:49.380There will be no more 1,500-page bills.
00:11:43.460Well, what I've been telling the speaker is, you can't leave that sitting on us in our lap.
00:11:48.740You've got to be clear that there's a large block of conservatives who are never going to just agree to raise the debt ceiling $5 trillion without spending cuts.
00:11:55.980And that's not an affront to the president.
00:11:57.880It's just a reality of those of us who recognize we've got to constrain spending.
00:12:01.520So we want to be able to work with the president.
00:12:04.180What the speaker did that week was set up a division that didn't need to occur.
00:12:08.320We didn't need to have that vote that Thursday night where we ended up with more Democrats voting for it and 38 Republicans voting no.
00:12:36.860You're going to be at Fort Maynard tomorrow, and sometime in the morning you're going to hear that we want one reconciliation, which is a nom of us, and we'll have it to you guys by March.
00:12:45.220Instead of having a border reconciliation and energy on the president's desk by the afternoon of the 20th or the 21st, how is this audience supposed to react?
00:12:56.640The two reconciliations where it's absolute clarity on deportations, border security, and energy, which is the underpinning of the Trump economic plan, is what people are focused on.
00:13:07.580If tomorrow in Fort McNair, by noon, when you start talking to reconciliation, you get Jason Smith and those guys up there doing the three-card money because they want to hide what's really in the tax part.
00:13:32.320And then use that to leverage and set up whatever we need to do on the overall mandatory spending cuts, that is, you know, reforming Medicaid and cutting SNAP and all that, in exchange for what we're doing with respect to the tax relief.
00:14:07.120But I think it's fair to say I told the president broadly, look, I think we should get in the room and figure out what we can deliver immediately.
00:14:16.600Whatever that is, starting with border.
00:14:18.400And if there's a number of things we can peel off and get in that package that we can get unanimity in and get across the finish line, fine.
00:14:25.040I don't care if that gets bigger, as long as they're good policies.
00:16:10.880Kristen Sultis-Anderson, I just want to put a flag in this moment because these nine individuals made it clear to Speaker Johnson, we can take you down.
00:16:21.900They sent a message, and the math does not get better from here.
00:16:26.220Note that there were at least two names that were mentioned who voted today who will likely not be part of the House of Representatives in just a couple of weeks.
00:17:51.880And once you read it and think about the other six, five free installments that we've given you to explain the world of over leverage and debt and how it can crush a country's future and the sovereignty of its people.
00:18:02.940So, we're going to have a lot of wood to chop.
00:18:06.920One thing I will commit to you is you're going to get it with the bark on as this audience demands.
00:18:15.560You're the cadre, the vanguard of the vanguard, and we've got some very tough days ahead.
00:18:22.560Because, like I said, the alternatives and opportunities for the United States are narrower and narrower and narrower as you have these massive budget deficits and this kind of infrastructure in this administrative state and the debt all rolled together.
00:18:34.960So, and the first thing, no more gimmicks.
00:18:38.260Somebody has to explain to me so that I understand it why one reconciliation bill is better than two.
00:19:07.020As soon as their name popped up and you had the other nine in reserve right there and you had the Eli Cranes and the MTGs, even those guys are jiggy on Johnson, weren't even included in the other six.
00:19:18.040Massey and Self and Norman, and obviously this audience doesn't agree with all of it.
00:19:23.180Norman was a Nikki Haley person, never really cottoned to President Trump.
00:19:27.880He's a supporter for President Trump sometime, but he's a deficit hawk.
00:19:32.800A lot of this is going to get down to money.
00:28:19.080We told you beforehand what was going to happen in the house.
00:28:22.920I'll get back to that later because it's quite important.
00:28:25.320This audience understands both critical path, process, the structure of this, and what the economics is going to look like.
00:28:31.360I think one of the top reporters that cover these things actually tweeted out what Chip Roy was saying on here about some of the cuts.
00:28:40.380I'm going to get to that in a second, particularly if any media is watching, which we know you are.
00:28:47.320Mike, the reason they're watching, by the way, is this audience, the most powerful audience and the most powerful political movement in world history, the MAGA movement.
00:28:58.020President Trump is our leader and President Trump got his speaker today.
00:29:02.560They are immediately, Mershon, they're, you see, inmate Weissman, they're obsessed with Trump.
00:29:10.100They want to make sure that when Trump takes, goes to the inaugural, that all the mainstream media is saying he's a convicted felon with the following sentence, you know, even if it's delayed or even if it's, he says, well, it should be prison, but I'm going to do this because you're going to be in the White House, et cetera.
00:29:25.060Boris couldn't come on today because the lawyers are working overtime on this, even as we speak.
00:29:31.820But Mike Davis, given we know what Mershon wants to do, we know what that smirking hyena Weissman wants to do and all those future criminals, or they are criminals, but future inmates are doing.
00:29:45.420How should the audience think about this, number one?
00:29:47.740And for the president, what are the potential alternatives here, sir?
00:29:50.960So the American people heard all of the evidence and allegations and all four of these bogus criminal prosecutions against President Trump, along with all the civil nonsense, trying to throw him off the ballot, trying to bankrupt him.
00:30:06.420The American people rendered their verdict on November 5th.
00:30:11.380And you have these Democrat prosecutors and these Democrat judges and these Democrat holes like Judge Mershon, this corrupt, partisan, dangerous judge in Manhattan who want to disregard the will of the American people.
00:30:27.140These are bogus charges against President Trump.
00:30:30.360If they would not have brought these charges, President Trump would probably be a retired president in Mar-a-Lago.
00:30:37.240He would not have been propelled back onto the political scene, into the presidential race, and back into the White House.
00:30:44.680And these partisan Democrat operatives and these prosecutors' offices and these judges' chambers can't get this through their thick skulls, that the American people are tired of this unprecedented republic-ending lawfare and election interference.
00:31:01.480And they're going to learn this the hard way because, guess what, Judge Mershon's going to sentence President Trump on January 10th if the Supreme Court doesn't stop him before that, which the Supreme Court absolutely should do.
00:31:16.100He's probably not going to put President Trump in prison, but he's going to label him a convicted felon before he goes into the White House.
00:31:23.860And I would say this to these Democrat partisan operatives, right now you guys are the hunters.
00:31:30.100On January 20th at noon, you're going to become the hunted because I'm going to push very hard from the Article III project very publicly for the Trump 47 Justice Department to open a criminal probe on all of these Democrat operatives who have waged this unprecedented lawfare.
00:31:48.340And this special grand jury down in Fort Pierce, Florida, should investigate all of these Democrats, whether it's Alvin Bragg, Tish James, Fannie Willis, Judge Bershon, Matthew Colangelo, Andrew Weissman on the outside.
00:32:04.980They all need to be investigated by a grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, where they did the Mar-a-Lago raid for conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. Section 241, a very serious federal civil rights felony.
00:32:23.220Jack Smith, who should be part of this investigation, along with Jay Bratt, are very well aware of this charge.
00:32:29.220It's one of the charges they brought against President Trump in their bogus D.C. case.
00:32:34.860Judge Tanya Shutkin should also be part of this because judges are not above the law when it comes to 18 U.S.C. Section 241.
00:32:44.660As they've told us for the last three years of this bogus lawfare against Trump for non-crimes, they went after Trump, his top aides like you, Steve, Bannon, Peter Devaro, who went to prison,
00:32:56.280his supporters on January 6th, who were politically persecuted under the Supreme Court's Fisher decision.
00:33:03.060There has to be accountability for what happened.
00:33:06.360So they're going to they're going to gleefully sentence President Trump on January 10th.
00:33:33.200And they're all smirking and laughing and high fiving that Trump's going to go to prison and Trump's going to do this and Trump's going to do that.
00:34:57.240We have his law enforcement and intel agencies who are not catching terrorist attacks around America.
00:35:04.280When you have former military men posting videos supporting ISIS, and we're not catching that because we have our Justice Department and intel agencies so politicized and weaponized to go after Trump, his top aides, and his supporters.
00:35:21.440And when President Trump is supposed to be preparing to take office on January 20th, this partisan clown Marxist judge, this corrupt, dangerous hack, Judge Juan Mershon wants the president-elect to spend his time preparing for this sentencing hearing, for this bogus case in New York that the prior Manhattan DA, the Manhattan U.S. attorney, the Federal Election Commission,
00:35:50.820and Alvin Bragg himself declined to bring.
00:35:53.980I hope that Judge Mershon's daughter, Lauren Mershon, has made a lot of money off of this case because guess what?
00:36:00.340On January 20th, I hope the Trump 47 Justice Department opens a criminal probe on all of them, including Judge Mershon, and if there's evidence that they've engaged in this illegal criminal conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. Section 241, they need to put Judge Mershon's ass in prison.
00:36:27.020I can tell you what's coming after the 20th is to preserve your document letter, but I would do that today.
00:36:31.440I want to go to something we dealt with about the Supreme Court justices, and they put their houses and they doxed them during the Dobbs decision on abortion.
00:36:41.160But the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court came out the other day, and I don't know, you know, we're making a big push that Beryl Howell and some of these judges in D.C. should be brought up for review.
00:36:53.500And I think a couple of them ought to be impeached and tried in the Senate and removed from the federal bench.
00:36:57.800Now, explain what – is Judge Roberts saying that, hey, reviewing Mershon, reviewing Beryl Howell, all this, is that what he's talking about, or is he talking about what happened to Kavanaugh and these guys where he never really said anything when that was happening, sir?
00:37:15.460I think it's the latter because I think that these Democrat operatives who had illegal obstruction of justice campaigns outside of the chief justice's home, who attacked the chief justice's wife, who gave up her lucrative law partnership to be a legal headhunter.
00:37:34.460You know, she's still making good money, but she'd be making a hell of a lot more money as a law partner at a major law firm when the chief justice became a federal judge.
00:37:42.520I think that when you attack someone like that in their home, when you attack their wife like that, you might just red pill that judge and make him a lot more conservative and bold and fearless than he otherwise would be.
00:37:54.160I'm not concerned about the chief justice anymore.
00:37:57.000If I were the Democrats, I would be concerned about the Trump 47 Justice Department because unlike last time, we're not going to have a bunch of elitist wimps like Bill Barr that, you know, has a big roar but doesn't do a damn thing about BLM.
00:38:12.360And Antifa that terrorized our cities for six months.
00:38:15.540They're going to be dealing with a real attorney general who actually has balls and her name is Pam Bondi.
00:38:20.720And she's I seriously doubt, unlike Bill Barr, I seriously doubt that Pam Bondi is going to put up with this nonsense.
00:38:28.920I want to talk about confirmation, Pam Bondi and cash.
00:38:34.920Given what the FBI has done, they're talking about they want continuity.
00:38:37.660No, this is a completely dysfunctional institution.
00:38:41.940It has to be completely taken apart and then put back together again.
00:38:48.940People have to realize in the first Trump administration, Davis was the superstar over there on Grassley and work closely with the White House to make sure we got these justices through there.
00:39:00.180Brother, I'm not feeling it on the confirmations.
00:39:02.560We wanted to flood the zone starting Tuesday.
00:39:04.960I'm hearing that the confirmation is not even going to start until the 16th, the 17th.
00:39:09.300At the committee level, you know, you may not get these folks a committee vote until, I don't know, the last week of January, 1st of February.
00:39:26.160These people who laughed when President Trump nominated cash Patel and Pete Hegseth and they said that their nominations were dead on arrival.
00:39:35.380And then the Article 3 projects teamed up with the war room posse, the most powerful force in American politics.
00:39:43.540And we lit up their phone lines and blew up their emails.
00:39:47.920And three days later, they went from dead on arrival to when can they start?
00:39:53.360I think that these Republican senators got the message.
00:39:57.220I think they got the attitude adjustment that Steve Bannon's war room and crazy Mike Davis's Article 3 project sent them.
00:43:53.360You know, some of these nominations, remember how they were laughed at back in November when President Trump made it?
00:43:57.640They ain't laughing now because these things are heading towards confirmation.
00:44:01.920But just the timing of the process, Mike, if the hearings I'm hearing, the first couple of hearings with the committees themselves may not take place to the 15th, 16th, or 17th of January.
00:44:14.740That means President Trump could actually start with nobody on his team really sworn in?
00:44:21.340Well, what they generally do is they'll start by having hearings for some of the top people earlier on in January, like the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State.
00:44:33.060They have what's called the 28-day rule on the Senate Judiciary Committee, where you have to wait.
00:44:38.740You generally wait 28 days after you get the paperwork before you hold the hearing.
00:44:43.040It's actually not a hard and fast rule.
00:44:46.940And so I imagine with Pam Bondi, they will waive that and they'll move forward more quickly,
00:44:51.680particularly since we've had a president of the United States and his team who are sleeping on the job and diverting critical intelligence and law enforcement resources to go after political enemies like those very dangerous 75-year-old Christians praying at abortion clinics while we let these ISIS terrorists put out videos and then mass murder Americans.
00:45:16.240And so I think there's a very good argument to skip the 28-day rule and move forward very quickly so President Trump at least has his national security team ready to go pretty close to day one like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and others.
00:45:36.960And I think the Senate needs to move forward and move forward quickly.
00:45:40.280Now, there are some things that are set by rule that can't be changed very easily, but I think that this will be a good test for this new Senate Majority Leader, John Thune.
00:45:52.860We're going to see whether he is going to lean in as the leader and push through President Trump's qualified cabinet picks and other key executive branch nominees.
00:46:03.740That is his job as the Senate Majority Leader for the President of his own party.
00:46:09.160If he thinks that he's some neutral judge during this process, then he needs to get his head out of his ass and understand what his job is, and that's to confirm the President's qualified picks as quickly as possible.
00:46:54.680And the most important thing you can do, especially in the month of January, is take action to light up these Senate Republicans to help them find their backbones and confirm President Trump's cabinet picks and other senior executive branch officials, ASAP.
00:49:20.220We've got a lot to talk about on immigration.
00:49:22.100This is why we need one reconciliation, two reconciliations, one right up front that we can see on immigration, border, border security, deportations, mass deportations, I don't know, energy, throw a little defense in there.
00:49:49.960So we're going to cover this conference over at Fort McNair, the historic Fort McNair in Washington, D.C., where the Republicans are going to get their strategy for 2025 now that they got their speaker.
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00:50:02.220We're going to return in just a moment for the second hour in the afternoon show of the War Room.
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