Bannon's War Room - January 13, 2025


Episode 4190： Trump Does Not Own These Forever Wars Backed By Dems


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The bond market is finally saying they have had enough of Joe Biden. President Trump is doing amazing things and the markets are finally starting to give him credit for it. The stock market is rallying around Trump and the dollar is back to where it was before the crash of 2008. President Trump has a track record on tariffs and Peter Navarro is right on track to be the next Reagan.

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00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.000 Monday, 13 January in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:00:56.000 We're about to start the days of thunder.
00:00:58.000 The preamble will be, remember, if you keep in score at home,
00:01:01.000 that whole number one, get his team in place.
00:01:04.000 Now, they're hiring like crazy.
00:01:05.000 They got the National Security Council that's coming up.
00:01:07.000 They're hiring like crazy.
00:01:09.000 We're going to go through all that.
00:01:10.000 In fact, Posa is going to join Ben Harnwell.
00:01:13.000 I got Frank Gaffney.
00:01:14.000 Frank Gaffney, big announcement of something we're going to do this afternoon
00:01:17.000 at 1 p.m.
00:01:18.000 I want everybody to tune into.
00:01:21.000 But we're going to really, and I think Moe's actually,
00:01:24.000 we're going to be there for the tomorrow of Pete Hegseth.
00:01:27.000 Before Pete goes, there's going to be these junior officers.
00:01:30.000 Really, the folks that fought these wars are going to go out and have a show of force for Pete
00:01:36.000 before the hearing, and then there's going to be a bunch of junior officers at the hearing.
00:01:40.000 In fact, I think our own Captain Bannon will make it if she can get back in time.
00:01:44.000 Maybe have, we'll maybe have her on the afternoon show if she's not traveling. 1.00
00:01:47.000 So get us up to speed on that.
00:01:49.000 A lot going on.
00:01:50.000 I do need you, and the bond market is now finally saying they've had enough of Biden.
00:01:57.000 So what they're trying to do in the business media is saying two things.
00:02:01.000 That, and remember how biased they are.
00:02:05.000 They're saying that the deportation of the unskilled workers,
00:02:10.000 the deportation of the unskilled workers are going to drive up inflation
00:02:14.000 because you're going to take all the workers away from the low-skilled jobs
00:02:20.000 that they've really suppressed the wages of the African-American and Hispanic community.
00:02:24.000 That was the whole purpose of why the Biden regime brought them in here.
00:02:27.000 Obviously, they want the votes also.
00:02:29.000 Number two, the tariffs.
00:02:32.000 Number two, the tariffs.
00:02:33.000 They're saying President Trump's tariffs plan, the tariff plan is going to be inflationary,
00:02:39.000 right, which is not the case.
00:02:41.000 Go back and look at President Trump's first terms.
00:02:43.000 He put the most stringent tariffs I think has ever been on,
00:02:46.000 China, the Chinese Communist Party.
00:02:48.000 And his inflation was basically bupkis in the years 18 and 19 when he left office.
00:02:53.000 In fact, the reason so many people voted for him was they want to go back to the economy
00:02:58.000 and peace and prosperity.
00:03:00.000 They want the world back in 19 pre the Chinese Communist Party bioweapon that was COVID-19. 0.98
00:03:07.000 And so President Trump's got a track record, a demonstrable track record,
00:03:11.000 and Peter Navarro on tariffs.
00:03:14.000 You know, we had a guest on the other day, John Gardner, talks about this is Saturday.
00:03:19.000 He didn't make the Saturday show.
00:03:20.000 And I was only able to tuck it in because he's got a manufacturing book about making America
00:03:25.000 a manufacturing superpower.
00:03:27.000 Again, and it's doing it through small manufacturing businesses.
00:03:32.000 But John's, we talked and we kind of came up with this concept that I think is quite powerful.
00:03:39.000 You know, what John's saying before the panic of 1906 or 1907, which was caused by the great fire in San Francisco in 1906.
00:03:52.000 This is why California has a huge impact and you have to watch what's happening in Southern California.
00:03:57.000 The fire of 1906 led to the panic of 1907.
00:04:00.000 It was J.P. Morgan himself that stepped in basically as an individual and with his bank
00:04:07.000 and was able to kind of sort that mess out before the economy collapsed.
00:04:10.000 Later, I think they had J.P. Morgan testify, I think it was in front of the Senate,
00:04:15.000 and they were asking about his role and his self-serving.
00:04:18.000 He said all the bonds in Christendom couldn't get him to tell a lie about what went on.
00:04:23.000 That all came from that period.
00:04:25.000 It was right after that they went to a federal, shortly thereafter,
00:04:28.000 the creature of what Jekyll Island with the Federal Reserve came up, the control of our money, the Federal Reserve.
00:04:34.000 Also, the income tax, but they had a mind shift.
00:04:38.000 Up until then, tariffs had really financed.
00:04:41.000 Tariffs and fees, things for getting into the U.S. market, really were the only revenue source.
00:04:48.000 I think the states were the only people that tax personal income.
00:04:53.000 So, this concept, and they created a group that's inside the federal government, reports to the Treasury,
00:04:59.000 called the Internal Revenue Service.
00:05:02.000 Well, John Gardner, where we were talking about the other day, is that the mindset,
00:05:05.000 and I think this is what President Trump is trying to shift the mindset,
00:05:08.000 and Wall Street's blowing back on it, saying, hey, your deportation plan is going to be inflationary.
00:05:13.000 Your tariffs are going to be inflationary.
00:05:16.000 They kind of missed the point.
00:05:17.000 It's going to be anything but that, both of those.
00:05:20.000 But the concept and the construct now, I think, is the change, as President Trump's doing,
00:05:24.000 and talking about Greenland and Panama and extending the frontiers of the United States,
00:05:28.000 kind of Manifest Destiny 2.0, or the Monroe Doctrine on steroids,
00:05:33.000 or even what they're calling the Great Game, which you know was between Russia and Great Britain
00:05:37.000 back in the 19th century around Central Asia, particularly Afghanistan,
00:05:42.000 that the new Great Game will be in the Arctic.
00:05:44.000 But even Stavridis, Admiral Stavridis, who hates Trump, a never-Trumper,
00:05:50.000 actually said the Greenland move was strategically, I think he said, brilliant.
00:05:55.000 In all of this, I think the reset, as President Trump's done so well,
00:05:59.000 is to get back into the thought of the external revenue service.
00:06:04.000 Think about it for a second.
00:06:06.000 When I talk about the deficit, you know, the six, six and a half trillion dollars we spend,
00:06:10.000 and how you have this deficit because we only take in like four and a half trillion dollars,
00:06:14.000 maybe five trillion dollars.
00:06:16.000 Most of that is still, I think two-thirds of it, is still personal taxes,
00:06:22.000 or taxes on entrepreneurs and LLCs, but it's all basically personal taxes, right,
00:06:27.000 from the little guy.
00:06:29.000 The corporations, I think the total tax of corporations is like under $500 billion.
00:06:33.000 Over three trillion, I think, is personal taxes or taxes related to Social Security, roughly.
00:06:40.000 And I think the mindset is that you have this huge internal revenue service,
00:06:44.000 they've added 10,000 agents, because, think about it,
00:06:47.000 everything related to the U.S. government,
00:06:50.000 which much of that is to support the American empire or corporations overseas
00:06:54.000 or support kind of deadbeat countries and deadbeats like NATO, who won't pay their bills
00:07:00.000 and won't pay for the defense or even in the Gulf Emirates, right?
00:07:03.000 You got to throw Israel into that. 0.98
00:07:05.000 Not saying they're deadbeat, but the cost of doing all this in the Middle East and the Gulf Emirates
00:07:09.000 and the North Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf, where I was deployed as a young man back in the 70s.
00:07:15.000 What do we do in the South China Sea and around, you know, with Japan and in the East China Sea?
00:07:21.000 That it's all paid for by American taxpayers.
00:07:23.000 It's an internal revenue service.
00:07:26.000 And this construct is, hey, well, hold it.
00:07:29.000 Why don't we reinitiate what they had in the 19th century?
00:07:33.000 What about an external revenue service?
00:07:36.000 And codify the tariffs.
00:07:39.000 President Trump is very serious when he talks about these tariffs.
00:07:41.000 And what he's saying is that why do they get a free pass to get access
00:07:46.000 to the greatest, most robust, vibrant market in the world that the American citizen,
00:07:51.000 you provide the substrate of stability to make this such a robust commercial and consumer market.
00:08:00.000 Our deficit, I think in November, the trade deficit of China was over $100 billion.
00:08:06.000 The trade deficit has been huge.
00:08:08.000 And what are they saying?
00:08:09.000 Well, the trade deficit has been so huge the last couple months
00:08:11.000 because people are front running buying things from China
00:08:15.000 because they understand President Trump's tariffs are coming.
00:08:18.000 I think we have to have a total reorientation.
00:08:21.000 A total reorientation.
00:08:23.000 External revenue service.
00:08:25.000 Why is all the burden put on taxpayers?
00:08:28.000 There should be a mentality that says, hey, guess what?
00:08:31.000 To get access to this market, to get, I think, even to capital markets.
00:08:36.000 That would probably be later.
00:08:37.000 And I keep saying that, hey, if the wealthy don't want to get taxed, two things they should do.
00:08:44.000 Number one, they should get their lobbyists and the donor class should back off this massive federal spending. 0.98
00:08:53.000 Because in the back of the day, the federal spending is all in response to pressures put on them
00:08:59.000 from either interest groups and or lobbyists that represent specific interest.
00:09:03.000 If you want to cut the spending, you've got to back that pressure off.
00:09:06.000 That's where the donors come.
00:09:07.000 So the donors, you tell the donors to the wealthy, hey, look, you can have it two ways.
00:09:11.000 We can close this deficit and you can help assist the doge guys in the deconstruction of the administrative state.
00:09:18.000 And you can help them stop this whole madness about federal spending.
00:09:22.000 Or guess what?
00:09:23.000 Somebody's got to pay for it.
00:09:24.000 We're beyond the stage of just running up the national debt.
00:09:28.000 You just can't do it because now it's not just your children and grandchildren.
00:09:32.000 It's you.
00:09:33.000 You do basically have a second mortgage on your house if you're lucky enough to have one.
00:09:37.000 Right.
00:09:38.000 The way you're paying now with inflation.
00:09:40.000 And we just walked through how if you don't have a house, think of it as a or if you're not a family group,
00:09:46.000 think of it just a another loan out for you about one hundred thousand dollars.
00:09:50.000 And the payments on that loan go to build inflation.
00:09:53.000 This is why one of the things of inflation is you've got to get the financing costs for the government down.
00:09:58.000 Well, you've got to get that down to people in the treasury market to stop flooding it with more and more treasury securities that you have to finance or refinance.
00:10:07.000 It's pretty straightforward.
00:10:09.000 But we have to take the thing off that we're going to pay for the whole thing internally.
00:10:14.000 Why does that have to be?
00:10:16.000 It doesn't.
00:10:17.000 It can be external.
00:10:19.000 I'm not saying it's going to take away all your personal taxes day one.
00:10:22.000 I'm not saying it's going to take down dramatically, but it's a start.
00:10:26.000 And it's a mindset.
00:10:28.000 The mindset is, hang on.
00:10:29.000 We've got an internal revenue service.
00:10:31.000 They're adding ten thousand agents and all they're going to do is audit me and come after me.
00:10:35.000 What about external revenue?
00:10:37.000 And what does that mean?
00:10:38.000 It's more than just tariffs.
00:10:39.000 It could be fees.
00:10:40.000 It could be all sorts of things when you get creative.
00:10:43.000 Bottom line.
00:10:44.000 To get access to you in the United States of America.
00:10:47.000 A nation.
00:10:48.000 Not an idea.
00:10:49.000 America is not an idea.
00:10:50.000 America is a nation.
00:10:52.000 With a border and a culture and a people and citizens of that, they've always been looked
00:10:58.000 at to burden everything.
00:10:59.000 It's time now.
00:11:00.000 And I think this is the perfect time for it.
00:11:02.000 Because President Trump is really coming and what he's doing, he's a disruptor.
00:11:05.000 And in that disruption, look at how he's already changed the strategic calculus by, with this, the whole, what I call Fortress America or the Monroe Doctrine 2.0 or Manifest Destiny 2.0 or the Great Game 2.0.
00:11:20.000 Where he's saying, hey, maybe our borders actually go from the Panama Canal, which President Trump is going to take it back.
00:11:25.000 He's not going to allow some local government that was kind of given this on a loan to then turn it over to the Chinese Communist Party for the military.
00:11:33.000 That is not going to happen on President Trump's watch.
00:11:36.000 And also Greenland.
00:11:37.000 And I think the Greenland gambit is brilliant because the Greenland gambit puts the Russians on notice. 0.94
00:11:43.000 And it puts NATO on notice.
00:11:45.000 The Russian army, as far as a strategic threat to the United States of America, is, you know, I don't know if it gets into the top ten for the United States of America.
00:11:56.000 The Russian Navy is number one.
00:11:59.000 The Russian Navy as far as a military threat.
00:12:02.000 But that entire Russian Navy or virtually every important element of it has to come to the Greenland, Iceland, UK from their bases up near the Arctic.
00:12:12.000 And Mermanks and I think Archangel and some other places.
00:12:14.000 But it has to come right by Greenland.
00:12:16.000 United States takes Greenland.
00:12:17.000 Both the Chinese Communist Party in the Arctic and also the Russians strategically are on their back foot.
00:12:24.000 And this is what President Trump's doing.
00:12:26.000 He's looking at things differently.
00:12:28.000 He's looking at things differently.
00:12:30.000 Now, you have the corporate entities in the deep state.
00:12:35.000 You know, there's a we're going to have tonight on from the Daily Signal.
00:12:38.000 I think in the six o'clock show that there's a poll out that shows that 50 percent of federal bureaucrats.
00:12:45.000 I think it's 50 percent of federal bureaucrats and those the administrative state and deep staters are saying they're going to have full resistance to President Trump.
00:12:53.000 Full resistance to President Trump.
00:12:55.000 Not like, oh, well, we won't take his orders, but they're going to resist because they don't think he's taking the country in the right direction.
00:13:01.000 Well, it's not their say so.
00:13:02.000 He is commander in chief.
00:13:04.000 He is the chief executive officer.
00:13:06.000 And you're going to see this.
00:13:07.000 He's the chief magistrate of this country, the chief magistrate, which is this unification, this unified theory of the executive, which for so long they've allowed the Justice Department to do.
00:13:17.000 President Trump is taking that back.
00:13:19.000 That's per the Constitution.
00:13:21.000 He's the chief lawmaker in the country to treat chief law enforcement officer in the country.
00:13:28.000 The turmoil here is going to be quite extensive.
00:13:31.000 President Trump's just not going to have a clear path because they're going to try to chop blocking.
00:13:36.000 The corporations are all down there right now with their little million dollar checks and they want to come to the you know, they want to come to the inauguration.
00:13:43.000 They want to wear a black tie and paddle around and go to all the receptions.
00:13:46.000 That's all fine.
00:13:47.000 That's part of an American tradition.
00:13:49.000 But those corporations and particularly the tech corporations, there's some comments I have in the New York Post today with the great Miranda Devine talking about Zuckerberg.
00:13:58.000 Zuckerberg can't be trusted at all.
00:14:01.000 He came in the Oval Office.
00:14:02.000 They lined him in the Oval Office when I was there.
00:14:04.000 And I went absolutely bonkers, but he still got to the Oval Office.
00:14:07.000 And later he put up $450 million of his own money to steal the 2020 election, to steal the 2020 election.
00:14:18.000 These guys are supplicants now because President Trump is coming in with the American people have his back.
00:14:25.000 But after six months a year of hard fighting and resistance at the administrative state and deep level and the corporations, is Zuckerberg and these guys can be counted on?
00:14:35.000 The only thing they can be counted on is to look after their own self-interest.
00:14:40.000 That's it.
00:14:42.000 If anything outside of that, you're fooling yourself.
00:14:46.000 These supplicants, it's all performative.
00:14:50.000 A short commercial break.
00:14:51.000 Johnny Kahn takes us out back in a moment.
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00:15:00.000 Big victory on 5 November.
00:15:02.000 Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country.
00:15:06.000 One of the biggest is the national debt and the deficits that drive it.
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00:16:20.000 The president has mentioned.
00:16:21.000 He will say to that murderous former KGB colonel, that thug who runs the Russian Federation, 0.84
00:16:28.000 you will negotiate now or the aid that we have given to Ukraine thus far will look like peanuts.
00:16:37.000 That's how he will force those gentlemen to come to an arrangement that stops the bloodshed.
00:16:43.000 I will say, you know, the other thing that we're going to need to see is really stabilizing things on the battlefield.
00:16:51.000 And one of the things that we'll be asking of the Ukrainians is they have real manpower issues. 0.99
00:16:58.000 You know, their draft age right now is 26 years old, not 18.
00:17:03.000 I don't think a lot of people realize that they could generate hundreds of thousands of new soldiers.
00:17:08.000 So when we hear about morale problems, when we hear about issues on the front line, look,
00:17:14.000 if the Ukrainians have asked the entire world to be all in for democracy, we need them to be all in for democracy.
00:17:21.000 And they certainly have fought bravely.
00:17:23.000 They certainly have taken a very noble and tough stand.
00:17:27.000 But we need to see those manpower shortages addressed.
00:17:30.000 This isn't just about munitions, ammunition or writing more checks.
00:17:35.000 It's about seeing the front lines stabilized so that we can enter into some type of deal.
00:17:41.000 You know, Mike Walls, Green Beret, has served his country, fought for his country.
00:17:48.000 Good man.
00:17:49.000 Seb Gorka, as you know, we think the world is Seb.
00:17:51.000 Good man.
00:17:52.000 I think there's something that I write here.
00:17:57.000 This is not President Trump's war.
00:18:00.000 He does not own this war.
00:18:01.000 He's had nothing to do with this war.
00:18:02.000 He tried to stop it.
00:18:03.000 He came out as a world leader at the beginning out of office, an office that was stolen from him,
00:18:08.000 that the war had never happened if he was the president, which he was legitimately and stolen by these imposters.
00:18:15.000 These imposters did this.
00:18:17.000 The folks on this show have known we have fought this from day one for the Ukrainian people to say we're going to get to the same spot. 0.98
00:18:23.000 So in the run up and Ukraine is going to be big because you've got to step into that decision immediately. 0.62
00:18:29.000 Right there is the echoes of Vietnam. 0.80
00:18:33.000 You know, we've got to turn this over to the Vietnamese. 1.00
00:18:36.000 Balls, what you're talking about, that implies to me a long process of our engagement.
00:18:42.000 That's not the deal here.
00:18:44.000 President Trump doesn't own it.
00:18:46.000 Kagan has written, please, guys, over there, read the Kagan piece.
00:18:49.000 Kagan has already said this is going to be Trump's biggest strategic defeat.
00:18:52.000 President Trump has no ownership here.
00:18:55.000 None.
00:18:56.000 Zero.
00:18:57.000 Nada.
00:18:58.000 The null set.
00:18:59.000 And, Seb, I love you, but haven't we given these guys enough?
00:19:03.000 We've given them billions.
00:19:05.000 We've given 250 billion dollars, a quarter of a trillion.
00:19:09.000 Would we not like to have that money back to take care of situations like in Southern California?
00:19:15.000 That there's going to have to be a bailout of insurance.
00:19:17.000 They're going to come looking for a bailout of insurance, a bailout of everything.
00:19:20.000 And I just, this is why I went through the bond market.
00:19:23.000 It's not free anymore.
00:19:24.000 You just can't, the Federal Reserve just doesn't have the ability to create this fiat currency.
00:19:30.000 The rest of the world's saying, yo, yo, what are you guys doing?
00:19:36.000 You've got to refinance $7 trillion.
00:19:37.000 That's why the 10-year treasury is going to go up and your life is going to change.
00:19:40.000 Your mortgage is going to be higher.
00:19:42.000 Your car loan is going to be higher.
00:19:44.000 Your credit card is going to be higher.
00:19:46.000 Inflation is going to be higher.
00:19:47.000 President Trump can beat inflation.
00:19:49.000 But not if you had this kind of massive sinkhole of debt.
00:19:53.000 And so the Ukraine thing has got to be tied back to an economic reality.
00:19:57.000 Which it seems like the national security guys are a little detached from that.
00:20:01.000 So I want to bring in two people that follow this.
00:20:04.000 And two people who we had on the show almost three years ago on the day before and the day the war started.
00:20:11.000 That would be Ben Harnwell and Jack Posobiec.
00:20:14.000 Jack Posobiec, help me, make this make sense to me, brother, please.
00:20:20.000 Well, Steve, when it comes to Ukraine, certainly the United States has sent already ample amounts of weapons, ample amounts of armaments, ordinance.
00:20:32.000 In fact, we've sent so much that key admirals within our own Navy are saying that we're running out of our own ordinance to defend against the Chinese Communist Party and others.
00:20:43.000 We're also hearing the same from the army in terms of the artillery stockpiles and the shells that we aren't even able to produce enough to maintain our own military stockpiles.
00:20:53.000 I'm not entirely sure where all these extra weapons are coming from unless they mean that we're going to be digging into our own pockets even more in terms of that.
00:21:01.000 Because that's just that's just reality.
00:21:03.000 I do understand, of course, President Trump wanting to if perhaps this is President Trump's policy and he wants to say maintain credible deterrence and credible deterrence means you have this threat of escalation on the table.
00:21:16.000 Certainly understand that.
00:21:17.000 And I'm not dismissing it.
00:21:18.000 But the fact that matter remains that in 2024, what President Trump and J.D. Vance campaigned on was an end to the endless wars and end to the forever wars.
00:21:29.000 These wars, which, by the way, I don't know if anyone's been looking lately, but they're not going too well for the Ukrainians, as it turns out.
00:21:37.000 Go and look at the vast cauldrons that Russia has created in Donetsk and Lugansk and going out into the Donbass region. 0.89
00:21:45.000 OK, they're running roughshod over the Ukrainians right now in the Russian speaking eastern provinces. 0.95
00:21:50.000 And they've got an eye on the strategic goal of the net of the Dnieper River and possibly looking even past that to her son Nikolaev and then down to Odessa, which we've been talking about on this program for a long time.
00:22:03.000 So you want to escalate.
00:22:04.000 You can escalate.
00:22:05.000 But what the Russians have shown is that they're more than willing to escalate to these new strategic weapons, these hypersonic style glide missiles that they've been able to show they have a capability for.
00:22:15.000 They can escalate with strategic weapons without even going nuclear.
00:22:18.000 So what does that mean they can go out further and further?
00:22:21.000 Look, they just struck the Ukrainian Rada, which is their parliament building for the first time, not far from Zelensky's office.
00:22:28.000 That's why, by the way, and Zelensky knows he's pressed up against the wall.
00:22:31.000 That's why for the first time since since he suspended them all the way back in May, suddenly Zelensky saying he wants elections again.
00:22:39.000 Oh, suddenly Zelensky wants elections because he realizes that he's in a bad negotiating position right now.
00:22:46.000 And he realizes that the writing is on the wall that this thing, Steven.
00:22:51.000 And we said from the start that we don't support the war.
00:22:53.000 We don't think that the war is justified, but we also look at it and we say we also don't think that it was unprovoked and that it is unwinnable.
00:23:02.000 That's the point.
00:23:03.000 It's unwinnable because what you want to go fight.
00:23:05.000 You're going to go fight to the last Ukrainian. 1.00
00:23:07.000 What are you going to have?
00:23:08.000 What happens when you run out of the 17 year olds or the 18 year olds and you move to the 17 year olds and then the 16 year olds and then you got the pensioners going out there. 0.73
00:23:15.000 You got the gray beards.
00:23:16.000 What are we going to send the Steve Bannon's out there?
00:23:18.000 No, I don't think so.
00:23:19.000 That's what they're going to be pushing for.
00:23:21.000 This is going to be like the end of the of the end of World War Two and the Battle of Berlin, at least before VE Day, when they were sending the they were sending these German pensioners out with, you know, with the with the machine guns and trying to hold the line. 0.88
00:23:34.000 They couldn't hold up for a second against Marshall Zhukov.
00:23:37.000 So, I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:23:39.000 Every single day that this continues, more people die for no reason.
00:23:44.000 And this is not President Trump has no ownership here.
00:23:47.000 None.
00:23:48.000 This is my point.
00:23:49.000 The implication of the sending in more weapons and the 18 year olds is that that's going to somehow stop the Russians. 0.83
00:23:56.000 And Prince was just on here.
00:23:58.000 I'm going to go back to the Dnepra River.
00:24:00.000 Eric says when they get there, they're not going to give it up.
00:24:02.000 The thing started bad enough that having the Russian speaking Eastern provinces and Crimea. 1.00
00:24:07.000 But that was kind of reality.
00:24:09.000 Now you've got others.
00:24:10.000 I just don't see the Russian army.
00:24:12.000 And this is the Russian army that can never blow through like in the old days when I was in the Pentagon after sea duty.
00:24:19.000 We focused on the what is it?
00:24:21.000 The folded gap in the in the in the in the Red Army coming through Poland and the north north German plane.
00:24:27.000 You had to have interdiction air sea land battle 2000.
00:24:30.000 The interdiction.
00:24:31.000 I'm not so sure that's a big threat anymore.
00:24:33.000 They take it.
00:24:34.000 Can't take Kiev.
00:24:35.000 But Kiev.
00:24:36.000 But they there's some implication that by sending in more arms and gain the 18 year olds.
00:24:43.000 That's going to somehow show the Russians that we're in a strong negotiation.
00:24:47.000 This is going to keep pounding.
00:24:48.000 I.
00:24:49.000 My strong recommendation is that President Trump has no ownership of this.
00:24:53.000 President Trump has fought from the beginning to say this was misguided that the Ukrainian people are going to pay for it.
00:25:00.000 His track record here is unimpeachable.
00:25:03.000 And I don't know.
00:25:04.000 All of a sudden it looks like the implication is that you get involved here in a year from now.
00:25:08.000 You're still negotiating.
00:25:10.000 Kagan tells you what they're going to do.
00:25:12.000 They're going to say, oh, this is Trump's fault.
00:25:15.000 This is Trump's war.
00:25:16.000 This is Trump did this.
00:25:17.000 President Trump is far from it.
00:25:19.000 So, Jack, I'm just concerned that, you know, with all, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, with all kind of good intentions that we're setting ourselves up for bad actors.
00:25:31.000 And those bad actors are the national security establishment of the progressive left and the globalist.
00:25:37.000 They've gotten us into this fix.
00:25:39.000 Why are we going to go and take their strategy and kind of double down on it?
00:25:42.000 Why would we ever do that?
00:25:43.000 These people are not good people.
00:25:45.000 They're bad actors.
00:25:46.000 Jack Posobiec.
00:25:47.000 And Steve, go and look.
00:25:48.000 Speaking of Kagan, go and look at the Washington Post editorial board today, because what have they done?
00:25:54.000 This is with the new Jeff Bezos.
00:25:56.000 Remember, it's a kinder, softer, softer Washington Post.
00:25:59.000 So they've endorsed every single Trump nominee for confirmation, with the exception of the national security team of Tulsi Gabbard, of Pete Hegseth, who have been against the Ukraine war and for winding down these forever wars, for pulling our troops from Syria as well.
00:26:18.000 RFK, who he's up for HHS, but guess what?
00:26:21.000 He's also outspoken on those issues and who's the only other member of the cabinet level officials that they did not endorse.
00:26:28.000 Of course, Russ vote.
00:26:30.000 So you see, folks, this is what it comes down to the people who are actually everybody else got across.
00:26:36.000 Everybody else gets across.
00:26:37.000 But when it comes down to the actual populists, when it comes down to the actual people that want to do something for the good of our country and not the good of foreign countries, suddenly that's a bridge too far.
00:26:49.000 Even for the new kinder, gentler Washington Post, which, by the way, is not going to be including Jen Rubin anymore.
00:26:56.000 I'm so sorry.
00:26:57.000 I'm so I'm so hurt that I won't be able to see her wonderful writings grace the pages of that austere publication.
00:27:04.000 Hold on.
00:27:05.000 Don't bury the lead.
00:27:06.000 Natalie's going to pick this up at five o'clock, but don't bury the lead.
00:27:09.000 Jen Rubin's partnering with who she partnering with. 0.94
00:27:12.000 Norm Eisen.
00:27:14.000 Oh, our good buddy.
00:27:15.000 Norm Eisen.
00:27:16.000 Yeah.
00:27:17.000 Ben Beatt will tell you a thing or three about Norm Eisen.
00:27:19.000 Mr. Color Revolution himself.
00:27:21.000 The granddaddy.
00:27:22.000 The color.
00:27:23.000 The color revolution is putting together their own squad for their own like mini media platform. 0.69
00:27:29.000 Hey, love it.
00:27:30.000 We're a free country.
00:27:31.000 We love free debate and free speech.
00:27:33.000 The facts will bury you.
00:27:35.000 Right.
00:27:36.000 But we love the fact that the color revolution guys are finally, you know, Kagan. 0.70
00:27:39.000 You receive Victoria Nuland hanging out there.
00:27:42.000 Samantha Powers and Apple bomb. 0.98
00:27:44.000 The sorority sisters.
00:27:46.000 The sorority sisters of death and destruction. 0.99
00:27:49.000 Seven sisters.
00:27:50.000 Poso, hang on for a second.
00:27:51.000 The seven sisters.
00:27:52.000 Hey, hang on for a second, Jack.
00:27:55.000 Birchgold.com.
00:27:58.000 End of the dollar empire, which is no Rachel Maddow.
00:28:01.000 We're not trying to destroy the dollar.
00:28:02.000 We're trying to save it here in the war room.
00:28:04.000 This is why you've got to understand a concept Rachel Maddow does and help destroy this country. 0.99
00:28:09.000 That would be modern monetary theory.
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00:29:24.000 The cyber program is by far and away the world's largest, bigger than that of every major nation combined,
00:29:32.000 and has stolen more of Americans' personal and corporate data than that of every nation, big or small, combined.
00:29:39.000 But even beyond the cyber theft, there's another part of the Chinese cyber threat that I think has not gotten the attention publicly that it, I think, desperately deserves.
00:29:51.000 And that is Chinese government's pre-positioning on American civilian critical infrastructure to lie in wait on those networks to be in a position to wreak havoc and can inflict real world harm at a time and place of their choosing. 0.97
00:30:11.000 The Chinese have already insinuated malware into critical American infrastructure. 1.00
00:30:18.000 That's correct.
00:30:19.000 Like what?
00:30:20.000 Things like water treatment plants.
00:30:22.000 We're talking about transportation systems.
00:30:24.000 We're talking about targeting of our energy sector, the electric grid, natural gas pipelines.
00:30:29.000 And recently, we've seen targeting of our telecommunications system.
00:30:36.000 The water, energy, the grid, Gaffney's going to go up in a second, the energy grid, he's fought this for years.
00:30:44.000 Transportation systems, water, natural gas, telecommunications, this is called the biggest cyber hack ever.
00:30:51.000 And he didn't even mention the Treasury Department.
00:30:53.000 Jack Posobiec, you're a naval intelligence officer.
00:30:56.000 You speak perfect Mandarin.
00:30:58.000 You read Chinese.
00:30:59.000 Brother, help me out here.
00:31:01.000 The Chinese Communist Party already at war.
00:31:03.000 Hasn't the cyber war against the United States already started and they're on offense and they're winning, sir?
00:31:09.000 Well, Steve, you also have to look at the different view of warfare when it comes to the strategic doctrine of the PLA and the Chinese Communist Party.
00:31:17.000 Again, they don't view a difference between competition and war the way we do.
00:31:22.000 So certainly we would view kinetic activity as war, but they view theft of proprietary documents.
00:31:29.000 They view theft of government secrets, cyber theft.
00:31:32.000 They view all of that as completely permissible in competition because that is the Chinese style of warfare. 0.91
00:31:39.000 It is total war.
00:31:40.000 It is war on every front, every imaginable front.
00:31:44.000 It's whole of society warfare.
00:31:47.000 That's why you see all the way down to the honeypots like Fang Fang going after congressmen or up and coming congressmen as they were at one point like Eric Swalwell in the San Francisco area and others.
00:31:59.000 You're going to see this again and again.
00:32:01.000 And I just look at Chris Ray and I say, gosh, if only Chris Ray had some kind of position in some kind of agency where he possibly could have affected this problem.
00:32:12.000 He's sitting up there and talking about what a failure he is.
00:32:15.000 Oh, it's so terrible.
00:32:16.000 It's so sad.
00:32:17.000 I can't believe this is going on.
00:32:19.000 Meanwhile, oh, you got FISA 702.
00:32:21.000 We can't do anything about that.
00:32:23.000 But that doesn't stop the ISIS guy truck driver from running over people on New Year's Eve down on Bourbon Street.
00:32:28.000 Hang on.
00:32:29.000 Excuse me.
00:32:30.000 He's over in Egypt.
00:32:31.000 Hang on.
00:32:32.000 It gets worse than that.
00:32:33.000 He starts off by talking about the largest criminal investigation ever.
00:32:36.000 Hey, he's bragging about it.
00:32:37.000 The largest criminal investigation he's ever had.
00:32:39.000 Put people in jail.
00:32:40.000 A thousand people in prison.
00:32:41.000 And then he ends with the fact that the Chinese Communist Party, the biggest threat, is an existential threat to the United States of America and her citizens that's already here. 0.97
00:32:48.000 It's already embedded in the infrastructure.
00:32:50.000 Just remember, unrestricted warfare, they think going to the kinetic part is actually stupid and a defeat.
00:32:56.000 They want to defeat the enemy into total submission before the first guns fired.
00:33:01.000 Okay?
00:33:02.000 The first guns fired.
00:33:03.000 They're already at war with us.
00:33:04.000 He just lays it out.
00:33:05.000 It's Sun Tzu.
00:33:06.000 What do you think they read at the Chinese military academy?
00:33:08.000 Sun Tzu.
00:33:09.000 What do you think they read?
00:33:11.000 Unrestricted warfare, baby.
00:33:13.000 Did you read Klausowitz?
00:33:14.000 The Chris Ray thing boggles the imagination.
00:33:18.000 Jack, I know you're busy.
00:33:21.000 We'll get you back on, talk about Hexeth later.
00:33:24.000 Where do people go?
00:33:25.000 Your Twitter feed is always on fire.
00:33:27.000 Where do folks go?
00:33:29.000 Look, you can go follow me, of course, at Human Events Daily.
00:33:33.000 We're going to be up there every single day this week.
00:33:36.000 And then going into next week, we'll be at the inauguration for full coverage.
00:33:39.000 By the way, Bulletproof, the new book, finally approved for Audible on the audiobook side.
00:33:44.000 I actually read this one.
00:33:46.000 So we got some comments that they wanted me to read when we did the last book.
00:33:50.000 So sat down, put myself under the gun, and did the entire book for Bulletproof.
00:33:55.000 That's out.
00:33:56.000 And it's actually got new information that we weren't even able to get into the book.
00:34:00.000 So that's up on the audiobook side.
00:34:02.000 And we've got a big debate going back and forth.
00:34:04.000 Steve, what's your take?
00:34:05.000 If you listen to an audiobook, does that count as having read the book?
00:34:13.000 No.
00:34:14.000 It's listening to the book and thinking about the book.
00:34:16.000 Reading is a different set.
00:34:18.000 That's right.
00:34:19.000 Go read on humans.
00:34:20.000 I'm a reader.
00:34:21.000 Steve Bannon, not an audiobook guy.
00:34:22.000 I'm not a listener.
00:34:23.000 Not an audiobook.
00:34:24.000 Audiobooks are huge.
00:34:25.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:34:26.000 Read it.
00:34:27.000 Read it.
00:34:28.000 It's a different level.
00:34:29.000 Folks, here's the thing on Bannon.
00:34:30.000 He does four hours of podcasts a day and doesn't listen to a single one himself.
00:34:37.000 I absorb him.
00:34:38.000 I absorb him in the zeitgeist.
00:34:39.000 Okay, Jack.
00:34:40.000 Thank you so much, brother.
00:34:41.000 Appreciate you.
00:34:42.000 Appreciate you.
00:34:43.000 I'll talk to you, man.
00:34:44.000 Jack Posobiec.
00:34:45.000 Two o'clock.
00:34:46.000 Two o'clock.
00:34:47.000 It's going to be up.
00:34:48.000 Charlie Kirk after us.
00:34:49.000 Noon to two.
00:34:50.000 Populous nationalism.
00:34:51.000 And then Jack's at two.
00:34:52.000 We're back.
00:34:53.000 Five to seven.
00:34:54.000 Frank Gaffney.
00:34:55.000 The cockles of your heart, given the fact you've dedicated your life to this.
00:34:58.000 Have Chris Wray actually agree with Frank Gaffney.
00:35:00.000 They're embedded into the energy grid.
00:35:03.000 They're embedded into the natural gas grid.
00:35:05.000 They're embedded to all of our infrastructure.
00:35:07.000 Already embedded.
00:35:08.000 And yet he's arrested a thousand J6ers and put them in prison. 1.00
00:35:12.000 I don't think he's arrested one official at any company.
00:35:15.000 Huawei.
00:35:16.000 I haven't seen anybody.
00:35:17.000 TikTok.
00:35:18.000 I haven't seen anybody embedded.
00:35:19.000 Any of these software companies.
00:35:20.000 I haven't seen one arrest of a Chinese Communist Party member, Frank Gaffney.
00:35:24.000 You know, Steve, it breaks my heart.
00:35:27.000 To be honest with you, I'd so much rather been wrong about the warnings that we've been
00:35:32.000 making for all these years on the grid thing in particular.
00:35:35.000 I mean, Donald Trump, when he was president, promulgated an executive order that said we're
00:35:42.000 not going to have any more foreign equipment in our electric grid for good and obvious reasons.
00:35:49.000 One of the first things that Joe Biden did in that, you know, onslaught of executive orders
00:35:54.000 when he came to office was to repeal that.
00:35:57.000 So we went from having 200 high voltage transformers from China in our grid, which was a terrible 0.99
00:36:07.000 mistake, to having 400 now or more.
00:36:10.000 And we know from some of them having been dismantled that they've got back doors in
00:36:14.000 them that the Chinese can use to take them offline or blow them up or whatever they want. 1.00
00:36:18.000 I mean, this is a travesty, but it's just one example of malfeasance at the highest level.
00:36:24.000 And my beef on Ray is, you know, he's done a lot of butt covering lately on most of these things,
00:36:31.000 but he has not done very much to counteract those problems.
00:36:35.000 And instead, as you say, he's been diverting resources to pursuing people like us.
00:36:40.000 It's outrageous.
00:36:42.000 As the committee on President Danger puts out, they call it War War Xi, and it's amazing. 1.00
00:36:47.000 It's a series.
00:36:48.000 You can go there.
00:36:49.000 Frank's the co-founder of that with myself and Brian Kennedy.
00:36:53.000 They've done an amazing job of going through the details.
00:36:55.000 The Chinese Communist Party is already at war with the United States.
00:36:58.000 They look at war totally differently.
00:37:00.000 This cyber war, and they bet it.
00:37:02.000 They're at war.
00:37:03.000 And in their mind, they're calculus.
00:37:04.000 They're winning.
00:37:05.000 Because there's no guys like Ray on their side of the football.
00:37:09.000 Okay?
00:37:10.000 Just not.
00:37:11.000 Let's address this.
00:37:12.000 But Frank, I want to say today at one, we've got a new initiative.
00:37:16.000 We're starting totally free, but I want everybody that can to see it live.
00:37:20.000 If you can't, watch it again on tape later.
00:37:23.000 What's going to happen at one o'clock today on our new initiative called the Victory Coalition?
00:37:27.000 Yeah, Steve.
00:37:28.000 With your help, we've put together a team to work on a facet of the war that we're facing.
00:37:34.000 And you're right.
00:37:35.000 It is World War Xi. 0.67
00:37:37.000 The Chinese are at the vanguard of it. 1.00
00:37:40.000 But they've got a lot of help from, I would say, other totalitarians, including the globalists with their world government strategy, but also the Sharia supremacists. 0.95
00:37:50.000 And the Victory Coalition is a group that is going to be focusing specifically on that problem and what it represents.
00:37:59.000 It happens at the moment, and we're going to be talking about it in a briefing that some of our best guys are going to be giving, Gal, Karen Sigmund among them, about the war that Israel is fighting right now.
00:38:12.000 It is their war, of course, against these Sharia supremacists, but it's also ours. 0.98
00:38:17.000 And we're going to be talking specifically about what Joe Biden's team, and it's not all of them exactly, but it's an awful lot of the anti-Israel officials inside his administration, are going to try to perpetrate.
00:38:32.000 They're using it as leverage to try to essentially euker Israel into making a ceasefire with Hamas that will save that terrorist organization, that will, I believe, actually give it the victory. 0.93
00:38:47.000 And this is being done with the threat hanging over Israel's head that it will be saddled shortly with a U.N. Security Council resolution, very like one you're familiar with, Steve, because at approximately this point in the last Obama administration, well, I call the Biden administration 3.0, but the second of the three Biden-Obama administrations,
00:39:13.360 is they went to the U.N. and they got U.N. Security Council resolution 2334 adopted.
00:39:21.240 They had New Zealand bring it up, not the United States, and the United States didn't vote for it, but they abstained, and that allowed it to become binding.
00:39:31.380 And the purpose of that was basically to screw Israel. 0.95
00:39:34.400 And that's what they're doing now with another idea, which is to have the finding made by the U.S. government that Israel has, in fact, been preventing humanitarian assistance from getting to the civilians in Gaza.
00:39:49.800 That's not true, but they're going to say it.
00:39:52.140 And then they're not going to do anything about it themselves because they don't want to actually be tagged as being, you know, hostile to Israel.
00:39:59.780 But they're going to work probably with the Algerians or the Slovenians or some other group to bring to the U.N. Security Council a very, very draconian resolution that would be binding on Israel if it doesn't do the ceasefire.
00:40:18.100 And really, I think, create not only terrible problems for our friends in Israel as they fight our war and theirs, but also problems for Donald Trump.
00:40:32.060 That's the other piece of this strategy is to bind Donald Trump, and you've documented this brilliantly on any number of examples.
00:40:39.220 Here it is again.
00:40:40.180 It mustn't be allowed to stand at 1 p.m.
00:40:43.860 If you haven't registered, please go to victoryco.org to get in on the Zoom call.
00:40:53.980 It will be streamed, I think, by Grace on your platform, Steve, and it will be available afterwards.
00:40:58.900 But it's really important that people take this aboard because we're watching the undermining of one of our most important allies as part of a larger strategy of this administration to screw our friends and help our enemies.
00:41:17.100 And last point, Steve, here's the thing.
00:41:20.180 You're going to have Joe Biden at the State Department today.
00:41:23.680 Maybe it's already happened as we speak, but he's there to tout his accomplishments in the foreign policy arena.
00:41:31.600 It should be a very short speech, but instead it's long, it's selective, and it's characteristically dishonest.
00:41:39.340 And we've had enough of it, but unfortunately they're using some of the comments that Donald Trump has made about ending this hostage thing before he takes office as further efforts or leverage on Israel.
00:41:55.400 And I think that's a terrible mistake.
00:41:57.280 I hope the incoming president will make it clear he stands with Israel as he did so well in his first term.
00:42:03.300 He's being – President Trump's being handcuffed every day by this administration.
00:42:08.840 Whatever you look, whether it's deportations, whether it's the kinetic wars, whether it's the debt and deficit, I said this.
00:42:14.920 They're trying to do everything they can to make sure that he has the hardest possible task ahead of him to turn this mess around.
00:42:21.960 They're doing this nonstop.
00:42:24.040 Frank, we'll see you at 1 o'clock, brother.
00:42:25.820 Thank you so much.
00:42:26.500 Thank you, Steve.
00:42:28.780 Okay.
00:42:29.240 Victory Coalition of One Graceful Charity.
00:42:31.360 But Ben Harnwell is going to be the morning show, but I'm going to call an audible right now.
00:42:36.240 Ben is going to join us at 6 o'clock.
00:42:39.540 We've got a 6 o'clock show that's already packed with amazing talent.
00:42:46.020 But Ben is going to lead off.
00:42:47.100 Ben has done – he's been the lead of our effort to make sense of what's happening on this Ukraine war.
00:42:53.540 But also, there's all type of debate in Europe right now as MAGA, as the populist nationalist perspective of MAGA, starts to, I don't know, help these movements throughout the world.
00:43:05.380 Ben will break this down next.
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00:44:35.820 Yes, we have legal immigrants in Florida.
00:44:39.760 So you can't conflate illegal immigrants with people who are here legally.
00:44:44.840 Now, I've also said we've got some big problems with some of the legal immigration programs that we have.
00:44:50.840 I mean, we've seen this H-1B program, how companies will bring in H-1B, the Americans train the H-1B,
00:44:58.640 and then they fire the Americans and hire the H-1B.
00:45:01.580 How does that, how would that even remotely be acceptable?
00:45:04.920 You have chain migration, which is not merit-based and is bringing in more distant relatives.
00:45:11.600 Not what you want.
00:45:12.640 So there's a whole host of issues there that need major reform.
00:45:16.940 But from an immigration enforcement perspective, I mean, if somebody is here on like an H-2A visa,
00:45:24.300 they are working in the state of Florida legally.
00:45:26.960 And when we did E-Verify, people would say, we had E-Verify enacted, say, hey, there's a busload of farm workers.
00:45:34.500 I saw them on I-4.
00:45:36.380 And people assume they're illegal.
00:45:38.240 And then FDLE looks, they all had the H-2A visas.
00:45:41.640 And so there's no enforcement.
00:45:43.540 Here's to your point about the MAGA rift.
00:45:46.080 I'm glad to see it.
00:45:47.820 I very much agree with Steve Bannon.
00:45:49.680 I mean, the last estimate that was done, by the way, and this speaks to, Michaela, you're saying it's just 85,000 people that are allowed annually.
00:45:57.380 But the last estimate that was done in 2019 approximated that 600,000 foreign nationals were here on this visa program,
00:46:04.780 all of them being provided with a pathway to citizenship, that doesn't include in two years, you can then get out of that program and become a permanent resident.
00:46:13.320 OK, so they're allowed to stay in this country from up to six years. 0.98
00:46:16.700 They don't apply for permanent residency.
00:46:18.040 Of course, we can assume that the majority of them do.
00:46:21.200 And they're allowed to stay up to 10 years if they go to work for the Department of Defense.
00:46:24.680 Again, all of these applicants have a pathway to citizenship.
00:46:27.360 So you just imagine you're like, yeah, I just went to work in America as a teacher for a couple of years and I became a citizen or as a janitor for a couple of years and I became a citizen.
00:46:35.180 It's just it's not OK.
00:46:36.620 And I want to be clear all across the board.
00:46:38.640 It's not just the H-1B.
00:46:40.120 There's a ton of visa programs that are being routinely abused.
00:46:43.540 And like I said, I have faith in the American people.
00:46:46.000 I think that the American people can fulfill those positions.
00:46:49.060 I know they can fulfill those positions.
00:46:51.000 And so I am not on the side of Elon Musk and Trump in this debate.
00:46:54.220 And I think that, you know, Elon Musk has been at Mar-a-Lago for a bit too long and thinks that that is the sample of what MAGA is.
00:47:01.000 And it simply isn't.
00:47:01.880 OK, it's not that we're not on President Trump's side.
00:47:06.660 We're obviously on President Trump's side.
00:47:07.940 It's just we have to get our hands around this.
00:47:10.040 You know, Newt Gingrich is that leads during The Guardian today that we're rabid.
00:47:13.860 If we want the deportation of all the illegal aliens that came here in the in the Biden regime, that we're rabid.
00:47:20.060 We're not rabid at all, Mr. Speaker.
00:47:22.340 We just we we have to restore this republic.
00:47:25.080 We have to restore our sovereignty.
00:47:27.300 One of the bases of our sovereignty is people that came here illegally. 1.00
00:47:30.620 Right.
00:47:31.160 Regardless of the situation, people came here illegally have to go.
00:47:34.740 And that is to press and crush the the low skilled working class workers of blacks and Hispanics. 1.00
00:47:40.900 One of the reasons we start to put this coalition together.
00:47:42.660 They have to go.
00:47:43.480 So we're not rabid.
00:47:44.340 We look at this very, very kind of dispassionately, but it has to happen the same with there.
00:47:50.800 There are no there is no legal immigration right now.
00:47:53.300 All of it's a con and a scam.
00:47:55.340 It's all based on a kind of architectonics of screwing the American citizen.
00:48:01.120 Like big corporations, we're not going to let that stand.
00:48:03.900 And this is going to lead to guess what?
00:48:06.360 Pulling a hair, gnashing of teeth and some tears.
00:48:08.580 I got that.
00:48:10.020 It's something we welcome because you got to get to the bottom of it.
00:48:12.740 And right there was Governor DeSantis and Candace Owens talking about it.
00:48:18.100 But this is not going to go away.
00:48:19.180 This is what in the days of thunder that start with executive orders.
00:48:22.960 Right.
00:48:23.180 One executive order I would really like to see is just for right now.
00:48:26.880 Let's just have a full stand down on, quote unquote, legal immigration.
00:48:31.620 Just a total moratorium.
00:48:32.900 So we can actually start to look at these, look at these programs and see the abuse of
00:48:38.220 going.
00:48:38.460 Everybody understands the abuse, but it's deeper than the abuse.
00:48:41.820 The very essence of it is to bring in people to compete with American workers that aren't 0.99
00:48:47.380 there's no more qualification.
00:48:49.220 And even the the the visa program that says you invest so much money in the country, get
00:48:53.440 a free thing.
00:48:53.840 We don't need people just stroking some checks here and getting into the country.
00:48:58.000 It's all got to be rethought.
00:48:59.240 American citizens, the whole the the whole nomenclature, the whole thinking has to be
00:49:03.960 put the American citizen in the middle of this.
00:49:06.920 And so we're going to be on this nonstop.
00:49:09.200 Like I said, the HB1 program is a it can't be reformed because it's a scam.
00:49:12.880 It has to be just shut down, deport everybody here on an HB1 visa immediately back to their 1.00
00:49:19.440 home country.
00:49:20.100 And Phil said jobs with American citizens.
00:49:22.980 And you won't miss one beat because to date we still haven't seen one HB1 visa worker that
00:49:28.740 has a skill set that's greater than an American or brain that's greater than an American.
00:49:34.520 So I think the apartheid that is Silicon Valley, because Silicon Valley is run as an apartheid 0.67
00:49:41.240 entity that has to be broken.
00:49:43.520 I'm sorry.
00:49:43.940 This is the United States of America.
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00:51:47.200 Mike Lindell, see you this afternoon on the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.
00:51:52.860 Sir.
00:51:53.520 Thanks, Steve.
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00:52:00.740 Charlie Kirk is next.
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00:52:05.140 We're going to be back here 5 to 7 tonight on the eve of Days of Thunder preamble tomorrow.
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