Bannon's War Room - January 15, 2025


Episode 4195： Hearing Coverage Of Bondi, Rubio, And Radcliff 


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

159.75026

Word Count

9,339

Sentence Count

647

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Sen. Marco Rubio and Pam Bondi testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee today about their confirmation hearings for the positions of Attorney General and Secretary of State, respectively. Rubio is up first, and Bondi is up next.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Attorney General. From 2010, the year before she took office, to 2018, the last year she was in
00:00:06.640 office, together Florida experienced a remarkable 26% drop in overall crime, including a 19.6% drop
00:00:14.880 in violent crime and a 27.4% drop in property crime. These aren't just numbers, these are tens
00:00:22.080 of thousands of lives. You're watching the War Room. We're going to be between the CIA today,
00:00:27.980 the confirmation hearing of Marco Rubio and the confirmation hearing of Pam Bondi. We're going to
00:00:32.660 go back. Senator Rick Scott talking about Pam Bondi. We'll be coming back and forth, and I'll be giving
00:00:36.800 context throughout the first hour. In this short introduction, as U.S. Attorney General, Pam Bondi
00:00:43.720 will restore law and order to the nation, should put Americans' interests first, and make the nation
00:00:48.960 a better and safer place. I urge every single member of this committee to support my friend Pam Bondi,
00:00:55.320 and I look forward to voting for her confirmation soon on the Senate floor and help her get to work
00:00:59.640 for the American people. Thank you, Chairman.
00:01:07.000 Thank you.
00:01:08.700 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Durbin, and members of the committee.
00:01:12.480 It is an honor for me and a privilege to introduce Pam Bondi, President Trump's nominee to be the 87th
00:01:18.960 Attorney General of the United States. I have known and worked closely with Pam for years,
00:01:24.180 and I'm glad to call her a friend. When Pam was nominated by President Trump, my reaction was,
00:01:29.780 this is a home run. As many of us are, I was only to be outdone by Senator Graham,
00:01:35.740 who described the nomination as a grand slam, touchdown, hole-in-one, ace, hat-trick, slam-dunk,
00:01:41.160 Olympic gold medal pick, and he's right. As the letter joined by more than 100 former Justice
00:01:48.020 Department officials put it, quote, it's all too rare for senior Justice Department officials,
00:01:53.080 much less attorneys general, to have such a wealth of experience in the day-to-day work
00:01:57.380 of keeping our communities safe, end quote. Pam exemplifies and personifies the Department
00:02:03.860 of Justice's mission to uphold the rule of law, to keep our communities safe, and to protect our rights
00:02:10.360 and liberties as Americans. Pam has distinguished herself in a career in public service that has
00:02:16.580 taken her from her small-town upbringing in Temple Terrace. Okay, ready? Okay, here's what
00:02:23.480 we're going to do today. This is flood the zone, right? This is what we recommended, and now we have
00:02:28.980 to juggle along with everybody else. The three major confirmation hearings this morning, Senator Rubio
00:02:34.360 for Secretary of State, his opening statement on Breitbart is kind of a complete reorientation to an
00:02:40.240 America First. We're going to catch that. Pam Bondi, Durbin, you saw early in Real America's Voice,
00:02:45.420 Dick Durbin already read her, the Riot Act, about her relationship with President Trump, and they're
00:02:50.460 going to drill down on her today. I don't think it will be as intense as Pete Hegseth, but it might be,
00:02:55.060 so we're going to go back and forth between Pam Bondi and Secretary of State, and if John Ratcliffe
00:02:59.620 of the CIA, anything explodes there, we'll go to this. I want to reiterate to this audience, Pete Hegseth is
00:03:06.340 going to be confirmed as Secretary of Defense, and that is because of two things. Pete Hegseth's
00:03:11.460 tremendous, tremendous performance yesterday. Also, this audience, the number is 202-224-3121.
00:03:20.340 Today, make sure you give support for Secretary or Senator Rubio, Pam Bondi, and of course,
00:03:26.860 Congressman John Ratcliffe at CIA. It's going to be quite intense this morning. We're going to try to
00:03:32.460 juggle and go through, but I want to make sure. Joni Ernst last night said that she's good with
00:03:37.860 Pete Hegseth. That means that Pete Hegseth is going to be through. We can get all of President
00:03:41.520 Trump's nominees if we continue to work and to put pressure. We're going to let you try to hear as
00:03:45.920 much as possible, particularly Democrats going after President Trump's nomination. Let's go back
00:03:52.000 to the introductory remarks on Pam Bondi, and as soon as Senator Rubio is up, we'll go right to his
00:03:59.280 opening statement. Let's go to the back. She's incredibly generous and someone I could always
00:04:03.640 count on. She's truthful, she's tough, and she's a born leader. She has charted her own course with
00:04:11.520 the rare combination of backbone and heart. The next Attorney General of the United States must restore
00:04:18.380 trust by reversing the weaponization we've seen the last four years and refocusing that department to
00:04:24.680 its core mission, administering justice. The next Attorney General must promote the rule of law,
00:04:30.860 take on violent crime, keep our communities safe, and safeguard the God-given rights that each American
00:04:36.820 has protected in our Constitution. I can think of no one, no one more up to that task than Pam Bondi,
00:04:44.600 a career prosecutor and widely respected Attorney General with the prudence, fortitude,
00:04:50.520 and temperance for this incredibly important job. Mr. Chairman, it is truly an honor for me to
00:04:56.040 introduce Pam Bondi to this committee and to our country here today and speak on her behalf,
00:05:00.580 and it's my hope that her nomination will be swiftly confirmed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:05:04.240 Thank you, Senator Schmidt. Now, Ms. Bondi, would you please come forward, and before you're seated,
00:05:09.760 I'd like to administer oath. Would you please raise your right hand and answer this question?
00:05:16.720 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give to this committee will be the truth,
00:05:25.400 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? So help you God. Please be seated and move ahead with
00:05:34.500 your opening statement.
00:05:35.440 Thank you, Chairman Grassley, Ranking Member Durbin, and members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
00:05:51.040 I've had the opportunity to meet with almost all of you, and I greatly appreciate that.
00:05:57.260 I'm grateful to President Trump and to this committee for your consideration to be the 87th
00:06:04.020 Attorney General of the United States. I would not be here without my family, and if you can bear
00:06:12.380 with me for just a moment, a lot of them have made a very long trip, and I wrote them all down so I
00:06:18.080 don't forget anyone. My beautiful mother, who wouldn't be here, a retired kindergarten teacher,
00:06:25.620 would not be here without my mom. As of a week ago, it was 12 years since we lost my dad to leukemia.
00:06:31.940 Feels like 12 days. My amazing husband, John, and his two incredible girls, Collins and Finley.
00:06:42.140 Collins is a senior at University of Florida, and I think all of you on this committee will be very
00:06:47.040 happy to know Finley is in cybersecurity. There's a third who is traveling abroad. I wish she could be
00:06:55.540 here. My amazing father-in-law, David. My sister, Beth. My brother-in-law is home with my niece.
00:07:04.900 My nephews, if you could just raise your hand, Evan, Jake, and soon-to-be niece, Savannah.
00:07:12.340 My brother, Brad, a brilliant lawyer. My sister-in-law, Tandy.
00:07:17.320 And my nephews, Justin, who just got a 4.0 at UVA. Rex, great college tennis player.
00:07:26.880 Brad, great tennis player. Is Rhea here? And my niece, my beautiful niece, Rhea. And the little guy
00:07:34.560 is in school because he's 10. My friends, Leslie, Kathy, Dina, Tiffany, Kim, Paula, and so many of my
00:07:43.340 former- Okay, we're going to shift to Tom Cotton over the CIA opening of John Radcliffe. We're
00:07:48.820 going to go back to Pam after her general introductory remarks. Let's go to Tom Cotton at the CIA
00:07:52.700 confirmation hearing.
00:07:54.400 ...celebrated and even known. Unlike our troops, no one buys them beers in the airport. Sometimes
00:08:02.540 their families don't even know what they do. So let me say to them today, on behalf of this committee
00:08:08.360 and a grateful nation, we respect you, we appreciate you, and we thank you.
00:08:14.380 But we also need more from you. In these dangerous times, our intelligence agencies haven't anticipated
00:08:21.040 major events or detected impending attacks. In just the last few weeks, the members of this committee
00:08:28.400 and, I presume, the President, had no forewarning of the New Orleans terrorist attack or the collapse
00:08:35.100 of the Assad tyranny in Syria. The same goes for Hamas's October 7th atrocity against Israel
00:08:42.320 in 2023. I could give other examples, but suffice it to say, we're too often in the dark.
00:08:50.620 While this goes for the entire intelligence community, the problem is especially acute
00:08:55.040 at the CIA, which remains, after all, the central intelligence agency.
00:09:01.240 The CIA needs to get back to its roots, but must overcome several challenges to do so.
00:09:09.200 First, the CIA has neglected its core mission, collecting clandestine foreign intelligence.
00:09:16.660 Put more simply, stealing secrets. Intelligence collection is the main effort.
00:09:22.600 Every other job is a supporting effort. If you don't collect intelligence by, say, handling
00:09:28.240 spies or hacking computers, you should ask yourself how you support those who do or how you harness
00:09:34.780 and use what they produce. I have seen way too many reports over the years with phrases like
00:09:42.240 according to, based on, judging by, followed only by diplomatic accounts and press reports.
00:09:49.200 In other words, not intelligence. And it's gotten worse over the last four years.
00:09:54.940 Those sources are not unimportant, but without clandestine intelligence, we might as well get
00:10:00.160 briefed by the State Department or a think tank or just read the newspaper.
00:10:05.160 Second, the CIA has become too bureaucratic. Now, I realize that Alan Dulles probably had the same
00:10:11.180 complaint just five years after the CIA was created. But this has also gotten worse in recent years,
00:10:16.600 in no small part, thanks to former Director Brennan's so-called modernization.
00:10:22.340 Lines of authority have grown blurry. Talkers have replaced doers.
00:10:26.740 Managers with no field experience have taken over operational roles and more.
00:10:31.820 Much like our military, the tooth-to-tell ratio at the CIA is badly out of balance.
00:10:37.940 Third, the CIA's analysis and priorities have been politicized.
00:10:42.020 Intelligence analysis all too often has aligned curiously with the Biden administration's policy
00:10:48.800 preferences. The Afghan army is strong and cohesive. Ukraine's army will collapse within
00:10:54.900 days of Russia's invasion. Israel can't possibly destroy Hamas or Hezbollah. Iran's air defenses are
00:11:00.920 mighty and fearsome. Time and again, the CIA has produced inaccurate analysis that conveniently
00:11:07.580 justifies President Biden's actions or as often his inaction. Likewise, the CIA's misplaced priorities
00:11:14.900 have yielded too many reports on matters, like the prospects for gay rights legislation in Africa or
00:11:20.640 climate change. These topics may have their place in government, but it's not at the CIA.
00:11:27.520 And I certainly hope to never again see another video, statement, or social media post from the CIA
00:11:33.640 about diversity or equity or inclusion. If you wonder why our intelligence agencies struggle to
00:11:40.180 collect intelligence, consider this fact. The CIA offered to pay diversity consultants three times
00:11:46.820 as much as a new case officer. I'm sorry, but if you feel like you need a diversity consultant or an
00:11:53.160 affinity group or your pronouns in an email, maybe the CIA isn't for you. This job isn't about your
00:12:00.580 identity or your feelings. It's about our nation's security.
00:12:05.160 Fourth, the CIA dabbles too much in questions of political judgment, even as it neglects its core
00:12:11.840 mission of intelligence collection. Some of the blame, to be fair, lies with us. I hear questions from this
00:12:18.820 committee about, say, some nations will to fight, or if we do this, that, or the other thing, what will Vladimir Putin or
00:12:25.220 Xi Jinping do in response? These aren't really intelligence questions, but rather matters.
00:12:30.560 Matters of statesmanship and political judgment, or prudence, the statesman's supreme virtue.
00:12:38.020 I would observe that Lincoln and Churchill didn't have our vast modern intelligence apparatus,
00:12:43.400 but they were pretty good wartime leaders because they were great statesmen.
00:12:48.300 It's the CIA's responsibility to provide us and the president with timely, relevant secrets.
00:12:54.000 For example, that Russia has mobilized multiple divisions on Ukraine's border at Christmas time
00:12:59.600 and sent perishable fresh blood supplies to the front. It's our job to use that information to
00:13:06.100 discern the inherent logic of events, not to defer passively to the intelligence community's judgment
00:13:12.740 that is a convenient conclusion that Putin hadn't yet decided to invade just days before the
00:13:19.940 obviously impending invasion. Fifth, the CIA needs to become bolder and more innovative
00:13:26.960 in covert action. I've seen successful covert action programs. I've seen debacles. The latter
00:13:34.120 are usually caused by ill-advised constraints by political leaders or when a president uses covert
00:13:40.460 action as a substitute for policy and not a supplement for policy. I'll have to save more for our closed session,
00:13:47.920 of course, but for now I'll just say that the timid indecision that has characterized the Biden
00:13:52.540 administration's overt actions extends to its covert actions. Mr. Ratcliffe, you have a big job ahead of you.
00:14:01.080 The nation needs a strong, capable, and aggressive CIA. I believe the men and women you will lead
00:14:07.880 want to serve in just that kind of agency. They join the CIA, after all, not a church choir or a therapy session
00:14:14.500 on a college campus. They and the nation are counting on you to deliver badly needed reforms
00:14:21.480 and on this committee to ensure you do. I'll now recognize the vice chairman for his opening remarks.
00:14:29.720 Mr. Chairman, and first of all, congratulations on becoming chair of what I think is the most important
00:14:36.280 committee in the Senate. Okay, that is Tom Cotton. We're going to juggle three this morning, folks.
00:14:41.980 It's important you see it. John Ratcliffe before the Intelligence Committee in the Senate. That's Mark
00:14:46.960 Warner, the vice chair, or the ranking member, I guess, talking. Ratcliffe, we got Pam Bondi. Pam
00:14:53.060 Bondi's about, I think, getting lit up by Dick Durbin here. In a second, we'll go to that. We're going to focus
00:14:56.920 principally on the Democrat questioning. We think that's most helpful. And two of these are going to be put
00:15:03.320 under intense scrutiny. That will be Marco Rubio, because Marco Rubio's opening statement, you saw it up on
00:15:09.360 Breitbart. Matt Bull and the team had it as an exclusive. It gives a very different outlook than
00:15:14.520 the Washington consensus runs. It's really, I think, the most forward, you know, presentation
00:15:21.300 of America first, talking about the post-war international rules-based order being over.
00:15:26.740 Do we have, let's go to, let's go to judiciary. Let's watch Pam Bondi handle Dick Durbin. As soon as
00:15:33.320 Marco Rubio starts talking, we'll cut back to that. So we're juggling today, but I think it's important
00:15:37.120 that people see all three. Let's go ahead and go. Big victory on 5 November. Now the work can
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00:17:00.820 As they want information, will you commit to responding to my oversight requests as well
00:17:08.560 as a request of other members of the committee? Chairman, either I or my top staff will personally
00:17:16.480 review the letters and do everything we can to respond to you.
00:17:23.440 Your tenure as Florida Attorney General was impressive. You fought against pill mills,
00:17:32.120 human trafficking. You eliminated a backlog of rape test kits in state labs. You fought against
00:17:40.440 organized retail theft. And you were known to stand for law and order. With such achievements,
00:17:47.540 it's easy to see why the people of Florida reelected you in 2014. And why President-elect Trump
00:17:55.280 nominated you to serve as the nation's chief law enforcement officer. So this gives you a chance
00:18:02.820 to tell us on this committee and the people of this country what you're proud of as your record
00:18:09.840 as Attorney General of Florida. Thank you, Chairman Grassley. I was truly honored to serve the people
00:18:20.320 of the state of Florida for eight years, but it was a team effort. I had great people around me,
00:18:26.340 many of whom are in this room today. And we did a lot. We did a lot to fight crime. And I've been
00:18:33.520 reminiscing a lot since I was asked to take this nomination. Opioids, as I talked about, were a top
00:18:40.980 priority right when I took office. When I was running for office, I went through the entire state of
00:18:46.520 Florida. Parents were walking up to me, handing me pictures of their children who were deceased
00:18:53.280 from opioid abuse. After I was elected, I took those pictures and I framed them in my office
00:19:01.580 as a goal of stopping that fight, which I talked about in my opening statement.
00:19:08.520 And if U.S. Attorney General, I'll bring those pictures back out and they will be there to inspire
00:19:15.180 me on the further drug abuse we're facing throughout this country. We also learned that something else was
00:19:22.920 happening. Pregnant women were having babies as a result of being opioid dependent. We call it
00:19:28.820 neonatal abstinence syndrome. We fought to educate mothers. We fought that issue as well.
00:19:35.160 Fentanyl was wreaking havoc in our country, but it was just getting started. I actually fought my own
00:19:42.080 party a bit on scheduling fentanyl because at that time people thought it was something you merely got
00:19:48.160 in the hospital on a patch after surgery. Apples and oranges and boy do we all know that now, the
00:19:54.220 difference. Fentanyl is raging throughout our country and I will do everything I can to fight
00:20:01.080 that with the agencies that fall under the Department of Justice. Human trafficking became a top priority
00:20:06.860 for me as Attorney General. I had the opportunity on a bipartisan trip to go to Mexico and the one thing
00:20:14.420 I found out there. They were doing better than we were. They had safe houses. I saw things I never dreamed
00:20:22.380 I would see and all of these things in my past have formed the person I am right now sitting here before
00:20:29.280 you. I came back to Florida. We started a human trafficking council and we partnered with others
00:20:37.260 and we expanded and added safe houses in the state of Florida. I don't know how many are in this country
00:20:44.480 right now, but I would like to partner with both sides if confirmed to continue those efforts.
00:20:50.260 I'd like to interrupt you. Yes, sir. And go to another question and I'll have another round so you can finish
00:20:58.840 on that point. I'd like to ask you about something that's central to
00:21:03.980 fighting government waste and fraud, the False Claims Act. I want you to know that Attorney General
00:21:15.780 Garland calls me once a year. He called me yesterday to tell me the success of the False Claims Act
00:21:22.960 since 1986 when I got it. This is why it's, this is why it's, this is, that's Chairman Grassley,
00:21:30.280 Judiciary. We have Judiciary with Pam Bondi. He wants to be Attorney General of the United States,
00:21:34.520 President Trump's pick. You've got Intelligence with John Ratcliffe, President Trump's pick to not
00:21:39.980 just go to the CIA, but to basically restructure the CIA. And you have Marco Rubio, Senator Marco Rubio,
00:21:45.760 who's going to be his Secretary of State. This is all with the Ukraine war, everything going on,
00:21:49.480 with Senator Rubio. If you go to Breitbart, I think I actually put it up last night on my getter.
00:21:55.200 He gave an exclusive to Breitbart, his opening statement, which is a pretty definitive
00:21:59.380 walkthrough of the intellectual framework of America First, really trashes the post-war
00:22:05.820 international rules-based order has been gained by the Chinese Communist Party. The reason it's
00:22:10.760 important, we're trying to get you to all three. Yesterday, this audience was a major factor,
00:22:15.480 a major factor in making sure that Pete Hexeth got over the top, particularly with folks like
00:22:21.280 Senator Joni Ernst and others. And remember, back four weeks ago, you guys went to fix bayonets and
00:22:28.280 kept Pete Hexeth. Pete Hexeth would have been traded out for Ron DeSantis within an hour of when we
00:22:34.320 really got to hard work there on that Thursday, what, about a month or so ago. This audience is
00:22:39.160 quite important to make sure we're putting pressure on the Senate to approve these candidates.
00:22:43.960 And particularly, all we need to do is hold together the Republicans, the 53 Republicans.
00:22:50.840 And obviously, next to Monday, J.D. Vance will break any ties. But he'll be vice president on Monday.
00:23:00.320 It's critical to do, so we're going to try to juggle all three. I particularly want to go to
00:23:04.260 Rubio's opening statement. We're going to dip into some of the Democrats questioning Radcliffe,
00:23:08.600 and particularly Democrats coming after Pam Bondi. So we may be jumping around a little bit today,
00:23:13.720 Real America's Voice. We're going to try to skip commercial breaks in the first hour. It's so
00:23:19.060 important that you guys are up to speed on what's going on. Yesterday, magnificent performance. Like
00:23:23.920 I said, Pete Hexeth, Senator Joni Ernst said last night, she's comfortable. She's going to vote for
00:23:28.980 him. I think that should put it to bed unless anything else pops up between now and the time
00:23:34.020 of the committee vote. And I think the committee vote, they're going to try to get that, I believe,
00:23:38.660 Thursday or Friday. The committee vote will be before then. The General House vote,
00:23:41.700 or the whole Senate vote, hopefully on Monday or Sunday, if they can do that. People really want
00:23:47.860 to swear in Pete Hexeth as Secretary of Defense right after President Trump takes the oath of office.
00:23:52.860 Let's go back to Pam Bondi. Let's hear Pam Bondi. The questioning of Pam Bondi will be jumping back
00:23:57.080 and forth. I'll be coming in to put context, maybe just sometimes my voice, maybe sometimes with my
00:24:02.920 lovely visage. Okay, let's go back.
00:24:04.780 To my knowledge, Donald Trump has never acknowledged the legal results of the 2020
00:24:10.800 election. Are you prepared to say today under oath without reservation that Donald Trump lost the
00:24:16.760 presidential contest to Joe Biden in 2020?
00:24:21.060 Ranking Member Durbin, President Biden is the President of the United States. He was duly sworn in,
00:24:28.040 and he is the President of the United States. There was a peaceful transition of power. President
00:24:33.580 Trump left office and was overwhelmingly elected in 2024.
00:24:40.040 Do you have any doubts that Joe Biden had the majority of votes, electoral votes, necessary to
00:24:45.460 be elected President in 2020?
00:24:47.340 You know, Senator, all I can tell you as a prosecutor is from my firsthand experience.
00:24:52.480 And I accept the results. I accept, of course, that Joe Biden is President of the United States.
00:24:59.100 But what I can tell you is what I saw firsthand when I went to Pennsylvania as an advocate for the
00:25:06.280 campaign. I was an advocate for the campaign, and I was on the ground in Pennsylvania, and I saw many
00:25:12.620 things there. But do I accept the results? Of course I do. Do I agree with what happened? And I saw so much,
00:25:20.020 you know, no one from either side of the aisle should want there to be any issues with election
00:25:27.620 integrity in our country. We should all want our elections to be free and fair and the rules and
00:25:36.300 the laws to be followed. I think that question deserved a yes or no. And I think the length of
00:25:42.320 your answer is an indication that you weren't prepared to answer yes. Have you heard the recording of
00:25:48.660 President Trump on January 2nd, 2021, when he urged the Secretary of State of Georgia to, quote,
00:25:54.800 find 11,780 votes and declare him the winner of that state?
00:26:00.220 No, I've heard about it through clips, but no, no, Senator, I've not heard it.
00:26:03.940 What was your reaction to President Trump making that call?
00:26:07.820 I have, I would have to listen to the tape, Senator.
00:26:11.300 Well, the quote that I give you is exact. He said to the Georgia Secretary of State,
00:26:18.800 find 11,780 votes. Do you have the entire context of that call? I feel like it was long,
00:26:26.520 much longer than that and may have been taken out of context. It was an hour long.
00:26:29.700 Right. You can certainly listen to it. I hope you will. Every American should. As a former
00:26:35.900 prosecutors, are you not concerned that the President of the United States called a state
00:26:41.300 election official and asked him to find enough votes to change the results of the election?
00:26:46.080 Senator, I have not listened to the hour long conversation, but it's my understanding that
00:26:51.840 is not what he asked him to do. You need to listen to it. Let me ask a third question. Do you believe
00:26:59.580 that the January 6 rioters who've been convicted of violent assaults on police officers should be pardoned?
00:27:04.960 Senator, if confirmed as Attorney General of the United States, the pardons, of course,
00:27:14.540 fall under the President. But if asked to look at those cases, I will look at each case
00:27:21.140 and advise on a case-by-case basis, just as I did my entire career as a prosecutor.
00:27:29.560 Senator, you also advise the President on pardons. That's part of your responsibility as Attorney
00:27:36.080 General. And so I'm asking you, do you believe that those who've been convicted of the January 6
00:27:42.580 riot violent assaults on our police officers should be pardoned? That's a simple question.
00:27:48.200 So, Senator, I have not seen any of those files, of course. If confirmed and if asked to advise the
00:27:55.000 President, I will look at each and every file. But let me be very clear in speaking to you,
00:28:01.160 I condemn any violence on a law enforcement officer in this country.
00:28:07.680 Let me ask you about your work as a lobbyist for Ballard Partners. You did not list your current
00:28:13.900 position as a partner at the lobbying firm, nor the work you've done for your Ballard Partner
00:28:18.720 clients, such as lobbying for the country of Qatar for $115,000 a month, and for corporate giants
00:28:26.380 Amazon and Uber when you were asked about conflicts of interest. Why do you believe your work as a
00:28:32.520 lobbyist does not constitute potential conflicts of interest?
00:28:36.000 Well, Senator, first, that was the amount my firm received. I believe multiple people represented the
00:28:42.940 country of Qatar within my firm. My role, and I am very proud of the work that I did. It was a short
00:28:49.680 time, and I wish it had been longer for Qatar, was anti-human trafficking efforts leading into the World
00:28:55.380 Cup, which is something I'd like to talk about later, too. I was registered as FARA along with many
00:29:01.920 members of my firm. That was the sole portion of my representation for Qatar. Now, if there are any
00:29:09.620 conflicts with anyone I represented in private practice, I would consult with the career ethics
00:29:16.780 officials within the department and make the appropriate decision. I would also like to point
00:29:23.660 out to you I don't believe that I would be the first Attorney General who has represented and advocated
00:29:30.540 for businesses in their past. Of course not. The question is whether you will recuse yourself
00:29:37.180 from any case involving your Ballard clients. One of those clients was the GEO Group, was it not?
00:29:45.180 GEO, yes. A private prison company you lobbied for manages correctional institutions and detention
00:29:51.640 facilities. The GEO Group has faced criticism for safety violations, inadequate health care, and poor
00:29:58.040 management. The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is GEO's largest source of revenue. Under the Trump
00:30:04.420 administration, GEO stands to earn hundreds of millions of dollars by detaining immigrants if
00:30:09.080 there is this mass deportation. Would you sense any conflict of interest if you're asked to judge
00:30:14.560 the performance of this government contractor? Senator, I will consult with the career ethics
00:30:21.140 officials within the Department of Justice and make the appropriate decision. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:30:27.120 Senator Graham. Thank you. Congratulations. You forgot to say that John's family was from South
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00:31:53.180 Okay. Not that we wouldn't want to watch Lindsey Graham. I got to come back. The war room,
00:31:58.900 the war room position on this is Trump won. Biden's illegitimate. And I realize that Pam Bondi's got
00:32:06.280 to get confirmed. And this is that you see the eggshell she's walking on right there. But the appropriate
00:32:11.740 answer, uh, Pam and Pam's, uh, uh, a good person. I know her very well. Uh, Pam Bondi, uh, Trump won
00:32:19.460 the 2020 election. Uh, Biden's illegitimate and we need to adjudicate that. I'm feeling now we need a
00:32:25.380 special prosecutor more and more. And maybe that special prosecutor has got to report up to the
00:32:29.020 White House and the, you know, the, the unified theory of the executive that President Trump's
00:32:35.320 votes, the chief executive. He is the, uh, commander in chief of the armed forces and he's chief
00:32:39.820 magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, not the attorney general. That's what they've been
00:32:44.440 trying to run on us since, uh, since Watergate. Uh, do we have, let's go. Marco Rubio, I think
00:32:48.420 has given his opening statement. I think they're trying to bang, bang him up. Uh, Lindsey Graham's
00:32:52.200 questioning Pam Bondi will come back, uh, when we get a Democrat, uh, try to chop her up and you
00:32:57.300 see your action. Let's go to Marco Rubio for a second. Back to order. All right. Um, so
00:33:08.080 while America too often prioritize the global order above our core national interest, other
00:33:13.160 nations continue to act the way nations have always acted and always will in what they perceive
00:33:18.820 to be their best interest. And instead of folding into the post cold war global order, they have
00:33:24.900 manipulated it to serve their interests at the expense of ours. We welcome the Chinese communist
00:33:31.300 party into the global order and they took advantage of all of its benefits and they ignored all of its
00:33:37.600 obligations and responsibilities. Instead, they have repressed and lied and cheated and hacked and
00:33:45.020 stolen their way into global superpower status. And they have done so at our expense and at the expense
00:33:52.540 of the people of their own country. In our very own hemisphere, narco terrorists and dictators and
00:34:00.080 despots take advantage of open borders to drive mass migration, to traffic in women and children and to
00:34:05.980 flood our communities with deadly fentanyl and violent criminals. In Moscow, in Tehran, in Pyongyang,
00:34:13.280 dictators, rogue states, national stability, and aligned with and they fund radical terror groups.
00:34:21.680 And then they hide behind their veto power at the United Nations Security Council or the threats of
00:34:26.720 nuclear war. The post-war global order is not just obsolete. It is now a weapon being used against us.
00:34:36.640 And all this has led to a moment in which we must now confront the single greatest risk of geopolitical
00:34:42.800 instability and of generational global crisis in the lifetime of anyone alive and in this room today.
00:34:51.680 Eight decades later, we are once again called to create a free world out of the chaos. And this will not be easy.
00:34:59.200 And it will be impossible without a strong and a confident America that engages in the world,
00:35:06.640 putting our core national interests once again above all else. Just four years ago,
00:35:12.640 I believe we began to see what that would look like during President Trump's first term.
00:35:18.480 America's strength was a deterrent to our adversaries and it gave us leverage in diplomacy.
00:35:24.000 There were no new wars. ISIS was eviscerated. Soleimani was dead. The historic Abraham Accords were born.
00:35:31.760 And Americans were safer as a result. Now, President Trump returns to office with an unmistakable mandate
00:35:40.080 from the voters. They want a strong America. A strong America engaged
00:35:46.160 guided by a clear objective to promote peace abroad and security and prosperity here at home.
00:35:52.400 That is the promise that President Trump was elected to keep. And if I am confirmed,
00:35:58.960 keeping that promise will be the core mission of the United States Department of State.
00:36:05.440 Now, tragically, horrifying atrocities and unimaginable human suffering can be found on
00:36:10.880 virtually every continent. And I am certain that today I will be asked about the array of programs and
00:36:16.160 the activities the Department of State carries out to address them.
00:36:19.280 We are a nation who was founded on the revolutionary truth that all men are created equal and that our
00:36:25.680 rights come not from man or from government, but from God. And so we will never be indifferent to the
00:36:32.240 suffering of our fellow man. But ultimately, under President Trump, the top priority of the United
00:36:38.800 Department of State Department of State will be the United States. The direction he has given for the
00:36:45.120 conduct of our foreign policy is clear. Every dollar we spend, every program we fund, every policy we pursue
00:36:53.920 must be justified by the answer to one of three questions. Does it make America safer? Does it make America
00:37:01.120 stronger? Or does it make America more prosperous? Under President Trump, the dollars of hardworking
00:37:07.840 American taxpayers will always be spent wisely and our power will always be yielded prudently
00:37:14.560 and towards what is best for America and Americans before anything and everything else.
00:37:21.520 Prudence in the conduct of foreign policy is not an abandonment of our values.
00:37:26.080 It is the common sense understanding that while we remain the wealthiest and the most powerful nation
00:37:32.000 on the earth, our wealth has never been unlimited and our power has never been infinite.
00:37:39.360 And placing our core national interest above all else is not isolationism. It is the common sense
00:37:46.320 realization that a foreign policy centered in our national interest is not some outdated relic.
00:37:55.200 Since the emergence of the modern nation state over two centuries ago, countries acting based on what
00:38:00.880 they perceive to be their core national interest, that has been the norm, not the exception. And for our
00:38:06.880 country, placing the interest of America and Americans above all else has never been more relevant
00:38:13.520 or more necessary than it is right now. For in the end, how America, how can America promote the cause of
00:38:21.680 peace on earth if it is not first safe at home? What good is America to our allies if it is not strong?
00:38:30.320 And how can America help end the suffering of God's children across the world if it is not first prosperous
00:38:36.640 here at home? I thank you and I hope I can earn your support whether it's because you believe I would
00:38:42.640 do a good job or because you want to get rid of me. Thank you. Bring it to me. Either way the results.
00:38:48.240 Okay. Um, by the way, shouldn't be lost in anybody. We have two University of Florida grads. The Gators are
00:38:55.600 representing today. We're going to go back to Pam Bondi. A big question I think by Democrats. That was Marco Rubio.
00:39:01.840 A pretty impressive opening statement. America first by Senator Rubio. Let's go back and hear
00:39:06.320 the grilling of Pam Bondi. Senator, the attorney general's office in Florida is the third largest
00:39:11.760 in the state. Approximately 1,400 employees and approximately 400 lawyers. Only California and
00:39:20.800 Texas are our bigger offices. And you were responsible for hiring into that office while you were attorney
00:39:26.720 general. Yes. Would you have hired someone into the Florida attorney general's office who you knew
00:39:32.960 had an enemies list? Senator, to cut to the chase, you're clearly talking about Cash Patel. I don't
00:39:40.240 believe he has an enemies list. He made a quote on TV, which I have not heard. I saw your your sign or
00:39:46.960 Senator Durbin sign about Cash. But I, um, I know that Cash Patel has had 60 jury trials as a public defender,
00:39:57.680 as a prosecutor. He has great experience in the Intel Department, Department of Defense.
00:40:06.160 I have known Cash and I believe that Cash is the right person at this time for this job. You'll have the
00:40:13.680 ability to question Mr. Patel. And I'm questioning you right now about whether you will enforce an
00:40:19.360 enemies list that he announced publicly on television. Oh, Senator, I'm sorry. There will
00:40:23.440 never be an enemies list within the Department of Justice. Thank you. Um, the FBI's, uh, what is the
00:40:31.280 FBI's role in national security and counterterrorism and how important is that role? You know, Senator,
00:40:37.280 I believe now more than ever counterterrorism is so important and vital in our country. We are facing
00:40:46.640 such incredible threats here and abroad. If I'm sure many of you saw, um, FBI, former FBI director
00:40:55.360 Ray's interview on 60 minutes, he talked about the threats that frankly, again, I don't have my security
00:41:02.560 clearance, but the threats facing us, Senator, from China, from China right now that are so great,
00:41:09.760 with the sleeper cells within our country. Given that importance, is it responsible to call
00:41:16.800 for shutting down the FBI's counterterrorism and national security work? And will you,
00:41:22.640 as Attorney General, impede or shut down the FBI's counterterrorism and national security work?
00:41:28.400 Senator, Senator, I believe that national security is vital right now for our country on so many
00:41:36.000 fronts. I could continue to discuss many others. And the FBI's role in that? And the FBI plays a vital
00:41:40.880 role in counterterrorism throughout our world. Which you will or will not shut down? I will look at each
00:41:46.160 agency. I have no intention of shutting anything down right now, Senator. I am not in that office yet,
00:41:52.880 and if confirmed, I will look at each individual agency and how it should be managed. But counterterrorism
00:42:00.240 right now in our world is vital. You have said that Department of Justice prosecutors will be prosecuted
00:42:10.080 in the Trump administration. What Department of Justice prosecutors will be prosecuted and why?
00:42:18.000 I said that on TV. I said prosecutors will be prosecuted to finish the quote, if bad. Investigators
00:42:27.680 will be investigated. You know, we all take an oath, Senator, to uphold the law. None of us are above the
00:42:34.960 law. Let me give you a really good example of a bad lawyer within the Justice Department, a guy named
00:42:41.040 Clinesmith, who altered a FISA warrant, one of the most important things we can do in this country.
00:42:48.000 So will everyone be held to an equal, equal, fair system of justice? If I am the next Attorney General,
00:42:57.200 absolutely. And no one is above the law. Under what circumstances will you prosecute journalists
00:43:06.400 for what they write? I believe in the freedom of speech. Only if anyone commits a crime. It's pretty
00:43:16.560 basic, Senator, with anything, with with any victim. And this is this goes back to my entire career
00:43:22.400 for 18 years as a prosecutor and then eight years as Florida's Attorney General.
00:43:26.560 You find the facts of the case, you apply the law in good faith, and you treat everyone fairly.
00:43:40.720 And it would not be appropriate for a prosecutor to start with a name and look for a crime. It's a
00:43:52.080 prosecutor's job to start with a crime and look for a name, correct?
00:43:59.280 Senator, I think that is the whole problem with the weaponization that we have seen the last four
00:44:04.080 years and what's been happening to Donald Trump. They targeted Donald Trump. They went after him,
00:44:10.560 actually starting back in 2016. They targeted his campaign. They have launched countless investigations
00:44:17.680 against him. That will not be the case if I am Attorney General. I will not politicize that office.
00:44:24.880 I will not target people simply because of their political affiliation. Justice will be administered
00:44:32.160 even handedly throughout this country. Senator, we've got to bring this country back together.
00:44:37.920 We've got to move forward or we're going to lose our country.
00:44:40.880 Yeah, I think the concern is that weaponization of the Justice Department may well occur under your
00:44:48.480 tenure. And we want to make sure that that's not the case, that you remain independent, that you remain
00:44:53.920 able to and willing to tell the president no when that's necessary for to protect the Constitution and
00:44:59.760 the integrity of the department. So that's where I'm asking these questions.
00:45:05.600 We talked in the meeting about the contacts policy that has prevailed really since Senator Hatch
00:45:15.840 sat in that chair and demanded of the Clinton Justice Department through all the administration
00:45:21.600 since then, with the exception of a brief period under Attorney General Gonzalez, which he corrected
00:45:27.760 and which did not end well for him. There has been a contacts policy that limits contacts between the White
00:45:34.000 House and the Department of Justice to a very few senior officials on each side. In your role as
00:45:40.720 Attorney General, if you are confirmed, will you maintain, defend, and enforce that long-standing contacts
00:45:48.320 policy? Senator, yes, I will meet with White House counsel and I will meet with the appropriate officials
00:45:54.640 and follow the contacts policy. My time has expired. Thank you, Ms. Bondi. Senator Cornyn.
00:46:01.360 Ms. Bondi, your testimony is music to my ears. Thank you. One of the things that I have been most
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00:47:29.920 That is donewithdebt.com. Do it today. Action, action, action. Weaponization and politicalization
00:47:37.920 of the Department of Justice, which together with the FBI is one of the most important institutions
00:47:43.920 in this country. If people don't trust that their elected officials will faithfully enforce the law
00:47:54.000 or administer equal justice under the law, they've lost faith in America. And that disturbs me greatly.
00:48:06.240 And I know it does you too, based on what you said. So I'm delighted to hear you say what you have said.
00:48:14.000 But I want to talk about some specific topics. Time is short. First, the border. I believe President Biden
00:48:23.120 and Vice President Harris had presided over one of the biggest humanitarian and public safety disasters
00:48:30.560 in American history. Senator Cruz and I represent a state with 1,200 miles of common border with America.
00:48:37.360 But as you pointed out with fentanyl, what happens is the border doesn't stay at the border.
00:48:44.080 Fentanyl poisoning is the most common cause of death of young people between the age of 18 and 45.
00:48:51.840 We know where it comes from. The precursors come from China. They go to the cartels,
00:48:56.320 they mix them up, make them look like innocuous pills. And young people take them and die.
00:49:04.080 It's just that simple and that tragic. So there's just so much that we could talk about with regard
00:49:11.360 to the border. But, you know, I know people...
00:49:15.200 You see what the Democrats are trying to do. And I just want to reiterate, the engine room is informing me,
00:49:24.240 which I knew, but I will repeat this. Your efforts yesterday, during and after the Pete Hegseth
00:49:30.880 confirmation hearing in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee, really, I think,
00:49:38.320 made sure that Joni Ernst understood that everybody's on watch here and others. Joni Ernst came out on a
00:49:44.560 talk show in Iowa yesterday and said she's all good with Pete Hegseth. She's going to vote. That
00:49:49.520 changed the total dynamics. You can see the air last night on MSNBC go out of the propaganda apparatus
00:49:56.800 over there as they face the reality that Pete Hegseth is going to be Secretary of Defense. That is
00:50:02.000 because this audience had his back from the very beginning. Today, Pam Bondi, and look, we love
00:50:08.080 Pam Bondi, and Pam Bondi is going to be the Attorney General. We need her as the Attorney General right
00:50:11.840 now. She's not Matt Gaetz, but then, you know, how many Matt Gaetzes are there? There is a lesson here,
00:50:17.040 though. They were very close to letting Hegseth go. If this audience, we had Gaetz's back,
00:50:24.800 the lesson we should take is never give in to the Democrats whatsoever. They're never going to treat
00:50:30.160 you fairly. You saw Hegseth yesterday. They came up with a personal tax. When you go back and see
00:50:34.400 Rubio and Pam here, Pam Bondi, the Democrats will be coming up with every snarky comment they can make
00:50:41.440 to try to chop her up, try to chop him up. You know, two very decent people that have tremendous
00:50:47.120 track records, right? I realize that, you know, maybe Pam is not Gaetz and not as hard as, you know,
00:50:53.280 the Warren Posse and particularly some of the elements over in Rumble, you savages,
00:50:58.800 want, and I agree that we wanted Matt Gaetz. We didn't get Matt Gaetz. There's a lesson in why
00:51:03.280 we don't have Matt Gaetz here today, because people blinked, right? People blinked, and we could
00:51:08.480 have gotten Matt Gaetz through. It would have been very messy. It would have been contentious. Today's
00:51:12.240 hearing would have been 10 XP Texas, but guess what? Everybody else would have gotten through
00:51:16.640 with flying colors. Let's go back to, I want to go to Marco Rubio right now. We'll come back to
00:51:21.920 Pam Bondi in a second. Let's go to Marco Rubio. I think the United States should be very concerned,
00:51:26.400 because I believe this is a test run for applying it to American service member and American leaders
00:51:31.040 in the future. Well said. I couldn't agree with you more, and certainly the court has badly damaged
00:51:37.920 its reputation, and it's going to have a long ways to go to recover from that. So with that, Senator
00:51:44.160 Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Rubio, as I said in my opening statement, I hope that this
00:51:49.680 committee can better collaborate to swiftly confirm career foreign service officers. These are patriotic
00:51:55.520 Americans who have served under both Democratic and Republican administrations, and they work to
00:52:00.720 advance U.S. national security interests. Delays and vacant posts hurt America's interest. I know you
00:52:07.840 agree with that, because we've had that conversation. But will you commit to working with Chairman Rish and
00:52:12.880 me to prioritize the advancement and confirmation of career State Department officials?
00:52:19.600 Well, the answer to that is yes, but I would also point to this fact that I think we're going to
00:52:23.680 begin by prioritizing. We're going to look at what are the key issues in the world. There are obviously
00:52:27.440 every post in the world is important or it shouldn't exist. And then the question is, which are the ones
00:52:31.600 we bring to you first? And those are the ones that I think are most critical. So obviously, I think you'll see
00:52:36.160 our nominees for the deputy posts, which are critically important, all the undersecretaries as well. And what I've
00:52:41.520 endeavored to do as we interview and identify people, and I believe I've met with and interviewed
00:52:46.320 most of the candidates for those top posts, is I want to bring you people that are three things.
00:52:50.240 Number one, are aligned to the mission. I think that's critically important, whether they be
00:52:54.000 foreign service officers. I'm not talking about political alignment. I'm talking about alignment with
00:52:57.760 the mission that we've outlined for American foreign policy, which is one of the things that I think
00:53:03.280 has hurt the State Department. Under numerous administrations is sometimes the mission or what is the core
00:53:09.040 mission of the department has not been well defined. That's on us, and it's our obligation to define
00:53:14.240 that. So number one, align to the mission. Number two, the capability to do the job. And I can tell you
00:53:19.360 now that my entire service on this committee, which spans 14 years, we always had fellows from the
00:53:26.320 Department of State, I believe all of whom are still in the service of our country. And I intend, because
00:53:31.680 I know them and I've worked with them, to utilize their skill sets in the department. And in fact,
00:53:38.640 a couple who we hope will be returning home soon from foreign postings to work with us at the State
00:53:43.200 Department closer to my office. But the point is that we want to have people that are highly capable,
00:53:48.400 both those who we bring from what they call political appointees, but also those that are promoted
00:53:53.040 from within the Foreign Service. And then the third are people that we can get through the committee,
00:53:58.400 because time is of the essence. Now, you may not agree with all their views, whether they be
00:54:02.880 Foreign Service officers or whether they be political, but I think it's important. And we're
00:54:07.040 not going to exclude someone just because we think that maybe they're going to have a rougher
00:54:10.480 confirmation process than someone else. But I do think it's important that we have people in these
00:54:14.960 positions as quickly as possible. And having served for 14 years on that side of this room,
00:54:20.160 I understand that one of the things we can do to help expedite that is to bring you people that will do
00:54:24.240 a good job, who are qualified for the job or mission aligned, but also that can move through
00:54:30.400 this process quickly enough so that they can be at post and begin to fulfill their duties. If I have to
00:54:34.880 wait a year to get them in place, well, I'm not sure on some of these issues we face today, we have a year to wait.
00:54:40.640 I certainly agree with that. And I appreciate your focus on mission and qualifications, because I think the committee will be looking closely at that.
00:54:50.240 I want to go now to NATO, because in 2023, Congress overwhelmingly passed the bipartisan Cain-Rubio provision,
00:55:00.160 prohibiting any president from withdrawing the United States from NATO without Senate approval
00:55:04.880 or an act of Congress. Will you commit to adhering to Senate approval or an act of Congress as required
00:55:10.720 under that law that you authored, if President Trump attempts to withdraw the US from NATO?
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