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00:05:59.000We can never allow this to be happening again, that a congressional committee can be formed and that the party in charge can deem that the minority party can have representation, the representation they want.
00:06:10.000And they can't have a ranking member, and you can't have minority counsel.
00:07:43.000Well, you know, to the degree the pardons are not specific, to the degree they frankly haven't been delivered, and to the degree they require President Trump to affect them, they should be considered nullity.
00:08:05.000And, you know, I was trying to think through how the challenge could proceed, and the challenge would be the Justice Department or other law enforcement agencies, such as the Defense Department in the case of Milley, just proceed.
00:08:22.000And Milley can highlight the pardons as a defense, others can highlight, Fauci can highlight the pardon as a defense.
00:08:30.000But the idea that there are blanket pardons is constitutionally unprecedented, to be fair, other than Nixon, but Nixon's was never challenged in that regard.
00:08:41.000And so all these Twitter reply guys, as I'm calling them, and legal Twitter, you know, we've been around the block on this issue many times.
00:08:50.000We looked into this issue when, you may recall, when Clinton on his way out the door issued all sorts of pardons.
00:08:56.000We tried to convince the Biden, the Bush administration, you can shut it down by not delivering them.
00:09:02.000You know, you can't be hijacked by Bill Clinton with last-minute pardons to figure out who and what people are being pardoned over.
00:09:12.000Similarly, look at those January 6th committees.
00:09:18.000Explain to our people what that process is.
00:09:20.000If they had issued a pardon a year ago or – and for J6, six months ago, their Justice Department under Merrick Garland would have done all the paperwork and would have done the process.
00:09:32.000Your point is when they wait to the last second and try to be cute about things, the next administration – and you were on the top of this about the pardons early on for Clinton, the Clinton pardons that you wanted Bush and those guys to take them.
00:10:18.000So President Trump can direct his pardon attorney, stop any work on these pardons.
00:10:23.000Now, specifically on the January 6th committee pardons, there's a list of names that aren't present, you know, or there's a group of names that aren't delineated in terms of specificity.
00:10:39.000How is that pardon going to be implemented or delivered?
00:10:45.000And so President Trump should decline to effect that pardon because he's being asked to effect the pardon effectively by being given, oh, you need the pardon.
00:10:57.000You know, we're going to pardon everyone who talked to the January 6th committee, all the cops.
00:11:13.000So my point is that pardons can be revoked.
00:11:18.000And the way in this case to revoke them is to question their level of specificity.
00:11:23.000Blanket pardons are really outside the legal norm or constitutional norms and the common law of England in which the pardon power arises from.
00:11:50.000You're recommending because you're saying Fauci, J6, and Milley, but you want to start by having what the program was to recall General Milley to active duty, I think, first, first step one.
00:12:02.000And then court-martial him in front of a UCMJ tribunal or court-martial panel and do that immediately.
00:12:10.000And he can bring up the fact that Biden, the commander-in-chief, although we think he's illegitimate, the commander-in-chief at the time, although I would love to litigate that with you, issued him a pardon.
00:12:20.000And that could be part of his defense, correct?
00:12:23.000Yeah, you know, and even as you talk, it occurs to me, Steve, is a court-martial covered by this pardon?
00:12:37.000I don't even know if he would be able to raise it in the context of a court-martial.
00:12:40.000I don't think you can – I don't know if you can pardon, unless you're specific, I don't know if you can pardon for, you know, under UCMJ.
00:12:46.000I'm not sure, particularly for treason, which it is.
00:12:50.000But here's what I admire – but Fenton, you're the guy – it's the People's Justice Department, right?
00:12:57.000What Tom Fenton has done over the last 10, 12, 14 years has been nothing short of – I mean, for the years in the wilderness during Obama, you were the only thing we had.
00:13:07.000My dad used to – you know, my dad in his 90s would tell me that Tom Fenton, Steve, is the best guy I ever met.
00:13:13.120My dad would hit Tom with 50 bucks every year and say – and he'd get his newsletter, read his newsletter.
00:13:19.160He'd read the ink off that because he was a guy that was a no-BS guy, and he knew you had him.
00:13:23.640All these other EOs were already – they're already hitting us in a firestorm of lawsuits everywhere.
00:13:30.560What other ones do you think are the most controversial?
00:13:32.700Well, a birthright citizenship is a – to me is a brilliant EO.
00:13:38.820It addresses the issue quite directly.
00:13:41.420It recognizes that there's this issue about what a natural-born citizen is, and the president has a right to interpret the law as he sees fit under the Constitution.
00:13:51.260Congressional – as the EO points out, the congressional – the legislative language echoes the Constitution.
00:13:58.420And that doesn't resolve the issue as to whether someone who's here temporarily or illegally, their children automatically become citizens.
00:14:08.460I don't think that was what was intended under the 14th Amendment.
00:14:11.400I don't even think it was contemplated that this category of person would be even considered possibly to be a citizen.
00:17:13.140And so I would elevate this to a high priority.
00:17:17.380This woman was needlessly shot and killed by Byrd.
00:17:21.040And the last thing I can imagine Trump wants to do is defend that in court or force us to have to fight them in court over this even for one minute.
00:17:32.260Hey, Tom, I need to talk to you after this show, and then I want to have you back on.
00:17:38.600But people, I want to tell you, Tom Fenton is one of the greatest warriors in our movement, and he's a self-effacing guy.
00:17:44.760You never see the Judicial Watch team.
00:18:49.740And, you know, some of it may be valid.
00:18:53.160The point is this is the sort of thing you just can't presume, oh, the Biden pardoned his entire family for crimes unknown since 2014, and that settles the issue.
00:19:04.320That's really unprecedented in scope, and the unspecificity makes it unenforceable.
00:19:11.960They can't implement it even if they wanted to.
00:19:14.780You can't ask a court to say, oh, well, we, you know, what crimes are at issue here?
00:19:20.400What are we going to be litigating over?
00:19:25.300Well, in the least, and it doesn't stop criminal investigations.
00:19:29.740In the least, it doesn't stop criminal investigations.
00:19:31.780And they've admitted now they've got a problem.
00:19:36.020That's saying they put, they came in, it was a great unmasking, and Nixon's totally different.
00:19:39.580That is a completely different thing about a sitting president.
00:19:42.520Tom, social media and where do people, first, where do people go to get these great little videos you put up and your social media, and then where do they go to learn more about Judicial Watch overall?
00:19:53.880Of course, you're banned from YouTube still.
00:19:56.460But we're on Twitter and Facebook and, well, it's a pain in the neck because we want to post this stuff when I'm on with you on YouTube, right?
00:20:50.880That's a warrior's warrior right there, and President Trump respects his judgment above all others in these areas, and that's why this is what Tom Fitton said last night when I saw it.
00:23:42.720You know, and that's part of the reason to be here is just to, you know, Ashley, four-time deployed United States Air Force veteran
00:23:49.540murdered in cold blood by a crooked cop, a dirty cop, which a lot of people didn't realize until Judicial Watch pressed for that information.
00:23:57.360And, you know, a disciplinary record that dates back to decades than in any other police force would have had him removed instead of promoted and exonerated.
00:24:05.120So, you know, we absolutely need an investigation into him.
00:24:07.920But, of course, you know, Biden pardoned him on the way out the door, too.
00:24:12.040So, you know, we're waiting in front of this jail because, as usual, you know, D.C. has been torturing these men and women for the whole time they've been in there.
00:24:21.720These men should have been out before midnight last night.
00:24:24.080And yet these jackboot thuggery people behind us just continue to prolong the process.
00:24:31.220You know, we were out here until 1 o'clock in the morning last night.
00:24:33.380It was freezing, but we were doing it, you know, with great glee, expecting to see our people come out.
00:24:39.520We do have a house here in D.C. that we call the Eagle's Nest, which is very much not an ode to Hitler.
00:24:45.440And we won that war, so we took the name back.
00:24:47.840And, you know, we were lucky enough to receive Stuart Rhodes and the Lego Man.
00:24:53.100And, you know, we have been housing some Jan 6 political prisoners as they get out.
00:24:59.800And we have been able to, you know, welcome them back to the community.
00:25:02.720But the guys behind us still waiting and still waiting and still waiting because that's how D.C. does things.
00:25:07.880Because they're used to doing whatever they want to do.
00:25:10.360And now that Trump's back in power, they're going to have to dance to a new tune to, you know, to answer to some regulations and some, you know, a new sheriff in town.
00:25:19.400Explain to me for a moment, when you say jackbooted thuggery, these men have been, many of them have been like four years in this process.
00:25:30.500Walk me through when you say jackbooted thuggery.
00:25:35.040Well, just the whole judicial process, you know, the things that President Trump went through, the things that you went through too, Mr. Bannon.
00:25:40.860You know, just the way that when you go into a D.C. courtroom, everybody in this city considers themselves a victim of January 6th.
00:25:48.140So to have the people that consider themselves victims sit in judgment of you is really not a very fair way to do things.
00:25:54.360And, you know, it really becomes what is collusion between the FBI, the prosecutors, and, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say the judges.
00:26:01.220The judges that come in here with a preconceived notion and tell you that you are not a patriot if you came to protest a stolen election.
00:26:06.620And the only patriots there that day were Capitol Police officers.
00:26:09.580When we have seen Capitol Police officers act in arrestable ways, and, you know, if we're going to hold American citizens so accountable.
00:26:17.640Enrique Terrio was released today, last night, and he was doing a 22-year sentence in jail, but he wasn't in the city when it happened.
00:26:24.580So, you know, it was very much a political persecution of our people, and it's not going to stand anymore.
00:29:58.760Are the prisoners, they should have been released last night, or have they been released, or are we going to get them in the next couple of minutes?
00:30:06.080Yeah, most of them, Steve, should have been released four years ago.
00:30:09.260But what we're anticipating, I'm going to step out of the shot here real quick and just show you what's going on here.
00:30:13.760They put up some caution tape when I arrived here just a few minutes ago.
00:30:17.860And then they moved these vans into place.
00:30:20.580There's three of these vans, transport vans.
00:30:52.480And by the way, the argument, the justification they said for not releasing them was they didn't have the guy that was supposed to be here to sign the paperwork.
00:31:26.340Well, listen, there are legitimate questions that still need to be criminally investigated.
00:31:29.900Regardless of whether the pardons turn out to be legal or not.
00:31:33.660Most of the legal experts I talked to today on both sides, liberals and conservatives, said it's a plenary power that has a lot of latitude.
00:31:41.260That said, it doesn't prevent someone from being forced to go before a grand jury and describe the behavior they have.
00:31:47.780There's a back door that Biden's pardons left open, wide open, which is Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has been challenged factually.
00:31:55.760I mean, Barry Laudermilk has provided evidence that suggests that her testimony is not accurate.
00:32:01.520There is a very strong possibility justice will start a criminal investigation into that.
00:32:06.300Bring all these other players into it.
00:32:07.940Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, what did you know?
00:45:06.280So, listen, here's what's happening right now.
00:45:08.400I'm standing here with William Sarsfield.
00:45:10.340This is a man that condemned USA, represented his interests.
00:45:12.880Our attorneys took care of his cause, and unfortunately, like everyone else, he was bludgeoned with the tyranny and went to prison for what is absolute nonsense.
00:45:19.860However, the situation here is William Sarsfield got out at 3 a.m. in PA.
00:45:28.540He got out in Philadelphia at 3 o'clock in the morning and manages to make it here to D.C., where they have defied the presidential order to date.
00:46:11.940The same corrupt Jack Smith ran the indictment.
00:46:15.060But these guys here make it from out of state, from another prison, to get here today where the D.C. jail hasn't managed to let these people out when they had full notice of the authority of the United States president.
00:47:40.200But to your point, Steve, as you know, putting these J6ers in federal prisons on low-level offenses with some of the country's most dangerous criminals just underscores what an evil man Merrick Garland is, what an evil man Matthew Graves is, what an evil woman Lisa Monaco is.
00:48:01.340None of them got presidential pardons yesterday by Joe Biden, and they should be at the top of the list for really their inhumane abuse of Trump supporters over the past four years.
00:48:17.120Every dog will have its day, and now the hunters become the hunted.
00:49:00.040People are getting out of prison today.
00:49:02.080What I don't want to have happen in these tough economic times until President Trump's plan is fully implemented is get into the prison of debt.
00:49:09.820If you put – if the credit card bill comes and you put it in the drawer, you're condemning yourself.
00:49:16.220You can't – I know it's – I know people have anxiety.
00:49:26.980Well, Steve, you brought up the perfect reason these J6 patriots getting out.
00:49:33.420You were talking about some of them, you know, all of the horrible things happening in their life.
00:49:38.200Debt and bankruptcy could be some of them.
00:49:41.020And what they should do as they face this new life and try to get back on track, and if finances are in that spectrum, is go to done with debt.
00:49:50.880Because done with debt is going to help them get back on track.
00:49:53.500Essentially, they'll be assigned their own team to help them with a strategy.
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