Bannon's War Room - Episode 4232： Tragedy Over The Potomac; Kash, Tulsi, And RFK Hearings

00:00:00.000 criminally or civilly, we're putting you all on notice.

00:00:03.820 Does this sound like the kind of nonpartisan law enforcement professional

00:00:07.740 who should lead the FBI?

00:00:10.400 Not to me.

00:00:11.940 This is someone who's left behind a trail of grievances throughout his life,

00:00:16.880 lashing out at anyone who disrespects him or doesn't agree with him.

00:00:21.500 Don't take it from me.

00:00:23.400 Listen to these Republicans who worked with him during the Trump's first administration.

00:00:29.180 Attorney General Bill Barr, and I quote,

00:00:32.140 I categorically oppose making Patel deputy FBI director.

00:00:36.680 I said it would happen over my dead body.

00:00:40.700 Patel had virtually no experience that would qualify him to serve at the highest level

00:00:45.520 of the world's preeminent law enforcement agency.

00:00:49.660 National Security Advisor John Bolton.

00:00:53.240 I didn't think he was qualified.

00:00:54.920 He demonstrated no policy aptitude at all.

00:00:59.600 I was forced to hire him.

00:01:02.520 President Trump's Deputy National Security Advisor, Charles Kupperman.

00:01:07.280 The idea that Kash Patel is going to be the FBI director is appalling.

00:01:12.720 His legal career is modest at best.

00:01:15.580 His ideas are ludicrous.

00:01:17.460 CIA Director Gina Haspel threatened to resign after President Trump proposed making Mr. Patel

00:01:24.040 CIA deputy director.

00:01:26.240 Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Mr. Patel lied about whether Nigeria had approved a hostage

00:01:32.960 rescue operation, putting American lives at risk.

00:01:36.720 But Mr. Patel would have us believe that all of these public servants, all Republicans, all

00:01:43.080 from the first Trump administration, and apparently anyone else who's critical of him, are nothing

00:01:48.340 but government gangsters and deep state members.

00:01:52.240 Many of them have made his list of enemies.

00:01:54.100 Just this week, CNN reported that during the Trump administration, CIA officials referred

00:02:01.140 Mr. Patel to the Justice Department for criminal investigation for sharing classified information

00:02:07.200 without authorization.

00:02:09.460 Last week, I asked the Justice Department and intelligence community for information on

00:02:14.100 any criminal referrals relating to misconduct by Mr. Patel.

00:02:18.300 I have yet to receive a response.

00:02:20.260 Mr. Patel's record is clear.

00:02:23.660 He traffics in debunked conspiracy theories that serve or benefit his political beliefs.

00:02:29.920 Let's start with January 6th, and he dedicates a whole chapter in this book on January 6th.

00:02:35.340 That's something that each and every one of us, as witnesses to January 6th, have our own

00:02:40.120 view of.

00:02:42.140 I'll be grateful always to the Capitol Hill police officers who risked their lives defending

00:02:48.060 me, members of Congress, and visitors to the United States Capitol on that day.

00:02:54.520 Mr. Patel posted on social media, quote, January 6th, never an insurrection.

00:03:02.560 Cowards in uniform exposed.

00:03:06.160 End of quote.

00:03:07.900 Let me repeat that.

00:03:10.240 Cowards in uniform exposed.

00:03:12.440 Who was in the Capitol building on January 6th in a uniform?

00:03:17.560 The Capitol Police were.

00:03:19.740 Do you think they were cowards?

00:03:22.240 Many of them risked their lives, and some gave their lives in defense of this building.

00:03:26.440 How about the D.C. police, who were here as well?

00:03:29.080 They were in uniform.

00:03:30.540 Cowards?

00:03:31.620 Risking their lives as well.

00:03:33.380 Some of them being battered and beaten by these mobsters that came into the Capitol.

00:03:37.620 And Mr. Patel claims that the FBI agency aspires to lead, get this now, was planning January

00:03:45.360 6th for a year.

00:03:46.860 He says the FBI was planning January 6th for a year.

00:03:51.260 That's a quote.

00:03:52.760 Mr. Patel has gone so far as to co-produce and sell musical recordings of a song performed

00:03:59.160 by January 6th rioters in jail.

00:04:02.380 Rioters who violently assaulted police officers.

00:04:05.120 He has described this January 6th choir as, quote, political prisoners.

00:04:14.020 Political prisoners.

00:04:16.000 But at least six members pleaded guilty to assaulting law enforcement officers on January 6th.

00:04:22.840 All six have now been pardoned by President Trump.

00:04:26.560 Here are some of those people who received blanket clemency by President Trump on his first

00:04:32.340 day in office in the second term.

00:04:34.180 Julian Cater assaulted Capitol Police officers with pepper spray, incapacitating three officers.

00:04:43.420 Ryan Nichols sprayed pepper spray on multiple police officers after the attack.

00:04:49.880 Nichols posted on Facebook, and I quote,

00:04:52.440 So yes, I'm calling for violence, and I will be violent.

00:04:55.080 Jordan Mink struck officers, quote, aggressively with the long pole.

00:05:01.760 He spat at officers and threw large items at them.

00:05:05.460 Armed with a knife, Ronald Sandlin shouted at officers, quote,

00:05:09.900 You're going to die.

00:05:11.280 Get out of the way.

00:05:12.960 Sandlin shoved officers when they tried to lock the doors to the Senate gallery.

00:05:16.500 After breaching the Capitol, James McGrew struck an officer and lunged for his baton.

00:05:23.700 McGrew also threw a wooden handrail with metal brackets at officers.

00:05:29.360 I want to read a sentence from this book on the January 6th experience.

00:05:35.340 Just to give you an idea of Mr. Patel's take on what he calls a haphazard riot.

00:05:46.960 By everything we could see, the crowd at the Capitol was unarmed

00:05:51.580 or armed only with non-lethal objects like bottles, flagpoles, or bike racks.

00:06:00.500 Mr. Patel has also peddled conspiracy theories for his own financial benefit,

00:06:06.160 promoting a line of dietary supplements that claimed to help people detox from COVID-19 vaccines.

00:06:15.220 During my time on this committee, I was fortunate to get to know and work with former FBI Director Bob Mueller.

00:06:22.320 I met him a few days after 9-11.

00:06:24.400 That's when he took over the FBI.

00:06:26.660 I trusted him.

00:06:27.620 I worked with him.

00:06:28.340 I did everything I could to help him

00:06:29.780 because I believed that the FBI was a critical central agency

00:06:33.380 in restoring America's confidence that we were safe.

00:06:37.260 Bob Mueller was an extraordinary man.

00:06:39.580 Oh, he was a Republican.

00:06:40.840 Make no bones about it.

00:06:42.100 He said it and admitted it, and I knew it.

00:06:44.540 He comes from the San Francisco area.

00:06:47.480 And when he was in college and graduated,

00:06:49.340 a friend of his a year ahead of him

00:06:50.800 had enlisted in the Marine Corps and was killed in Vietnam.

00:06:54.520 Bob was inspired to do the same thing, join up in the Marine Corps, and he did.

00:06:59.400 And he was the first lieutenant in Vietnam.

00:07:02.320 He received a bronze star with a valor pin,

00:07:05.400 and he also received a purple heart.

00:07:09.000 He was injured in battle.

00:07:10.980 I read about his experience because after he was healed from that wound to his leg,

00:07:17.780 he returned to combat.

00:07:19.720 He was just that kind of fellow.

00:07:22.100 Regardless of party, he was a real American.

00:07:24.760 He was a long-time federal prosecutor, a U.S. attorney, the head of the DOJ's criminal division,

00:07:31.920 and acting deputy attorney general before he became head of the FBI.

00:07:36.060 After 9-11, I worked with him, and he had a good relationship, a professional relationship.

00:07:41.920 We didn't always see eye to eye, but I respected him so much for what he had given to this country.

00:07:45.960 In this book, Mr. Patel calls Director Bob Mueller, quote, a swamp creature.

00:07:53.940 With all due respect, Mr. Patel, I've not worn the uniform of this country, and neither of you.

00:07:59.980 To think that you would denigrate Bob Mueller's service to our country and call him a swamp creature

00:08:04.640 is an indication of the depths your political views take you.

00:08:08.540 The FBI plays a critical role in keeping America safe from terrorism, violent crime, and other threats.

00:08:14.100 Our nation needs an FBI director who understands the gravity of this mission

00:08:19.700 and is ready on day one, not someone who is consumed by his own personal political grievances.

00:08:27.180 The American people deserve an FBI director focused on keeping our families safe

00:08:31.700 from terrorism, drug trafficking, and violent crime,

00:08:35.240 not this checklist of grievances we find in this book.

00:08:39.620 Mr. Patel, your record makes it clear you're not that person.

00:08:42.660 I yield.

00:08:44.700 Thank you, Senator Durbin.

00:08:46.960 Before I call on Senator...

00:08:48.380 Okay, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:08:49.320 Stephen K. Bannon, Thursday, 30 January, Year of the Lord, 2025.

00:08:53.140 This is going to be a historic day.

00:08:54.620 You have three simultaneous hearings.

00:08:56.880 That is Kash Patel getting read the Riot Act from Dick Durbin.

00:09:01.440 Grassley took almost 30 minutes in introduction.

00:09:03.980 Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be brutal today,

00:09:06.000 and we're going to need everybody at the ramparts, 202-224-3121.

00:09:11.700 I also want everybody to either get over to Mike Davis's Article 3 project or Grace will be put in the chat room.

00:09:23.640 Spread it out.

00:09:24.360 Become a force multiplier.

00:09:27.380 Bill Blaster.

00:09:29.120 Make sure today it's going to be intense.

00:09:31.120 We've got Tulsi Gabbard's about to start.

00:09:33.140 Bobby Kennedy's about to start.

00:09:34.640 So you have the Intelligence Committee with Tulsi Gabbard to be DNI.

00:09:38.020 You have the Judiciary Committee with D. Cash Patel to be FBI Director.

00:09:43.020 You have the Health and Human Services Committee.

00:09:45.540 Senator Tuberville's on that.

00:09:46.820 Reviewing Bobby Kennedy and the fireworks went off yesterday.

00:09:50.980 Today is going to be quite intense.

00:09:52.460 On top of all that, a tragic, just about a mile or so from the war room, the plane's still in the water.

00:09:58.240 A tragic incident last night.

00:10:00.080 And for folks that have been in the military who cannot figure out how, with the experience of Army helicopter Apache pilots, this happened last night.

00:10:08.340 But questions all over the place.

00:10:10.980 President Trump is going to go to the press briefing room.

00:10:13.860 He's going to give remarks.

00:10:14.940 I'm sure he's going to take questions.

00:10:15.980 That's at 11 o'clock.

00:10:17.520 So you're going to hear a lot more of my, you're going to hear my voice, if at all.

00:10:21.180 But we're going to just go right to the action.

00:10:23.220 Do we have Tulsi?

00:10:24.200 We're going to do this live.

00:10:25.980 Tulsi or Bobby?

00:10:28.220 Are they doing statements right now?

00:10:30.720 What have we got?

00:10:31.300 Not, okay.

00:10:33.160 If they do the Democrat statements on both, I want to go to it.

00:10:35.900 Okay.

00:10:36.940 Let's go to Bernie Sanders.

00:10:38.140 Is this on Tulsi?

00:10:39.860 Or Bobby?

00:10:40.600 Let's go.

00:10:41.960 Let's go to Bernie Sanders.

00:10:43.860 You pointed out yesterday, the outrageous cost of health care in America, two or three times

00:10:50.020 more than other industrialized countries are paying.

00:10:54.660 Unbelievably, in this country, hundreds of thousands of people who deal with cancer, struggling

00:11:00.480 for their lives.

00:11:01.180 You know what happens to them?

00:11:02.120 They go bankrupt.

00:11:03.840 They deplete their lives' savings.

00:11:05.840 In other words, when we talk about making America healthy, you've got to talk about a broken, corrupt health care system.

00:11:16.460 Your uncle, President Kennedy, your father, Bobby Kennedy, great senator from New York.

00:11:24.920 Your uncle sat right now where Senator Kennedy is, Senator Cassidy is sitting, chairman of this committee.

00:11:33.000 All of them did what I think is the right thing.

00:11:37.020 They said health care is a human right.

00:11:39.460 They looked all over the world.

00:11:41.060 They saw every other major country guaranteeing health care to all people, whether they're rich or poor, young or old.

00:11:46.760 So I'm not quite sure how we can move to making America healthy again unless we have the guts to take on the insurance companies and the drug companies and guarantee health care to all people.

00:11:56.780 I'll be asking you a question about that, lowering the cost of prescription drugs.

00:12:02.460 How do you make America healthy again if one out of four people in this country cannot afford the price of prescription drugs, which is far higher in America than any other country on Earth?

00:12:14.820 Under President Biden, we made some progress, and this committee played an active role in having Medicare begin for the first time negotiating the price of drugs that we are paying.

00:12:26.780 And I'm going to ask you whether or not you will demand that President Trump follow what we accomplished here.

00:12:35.200 We are the only major country on Earth not to guarantee paid family and medical leave.

00:12:43.320 Mr. Kennedy, there are women today who are having babies that they've got to go back to work in a week or two because they have no guaranteed paid family and medical leave.

00:12:54.040 How do you have a healthy country when women are forced to go back to work when women and men get fired because they stay home taking care of their sick kids?

00:13:05.100 That's not making America healthy again.

00:13:09.060 And I would go a little bit beyond the jurisdiction of health and human services, but I think it's important.

00:13:14.840 If you are working 50 or 60 hours a week, making 13, 14 bucks an hour, which is what millions of Americans are, can you be healthy?

00:13:25.580 Will you join those of us who think that in the United States, wealthiest country on Earth, people work 40 hours a week?

00:13:31.000 We're going to return to Cash Patel's hearing right now.

00:13:33.260 We're going to jump back and forth between all three.

00:13:35.140 We've got another streaming site taking out of this.

00:13:36.680 Let's go.

00:13:36.960 Colleagues, I created a cash bingo card that I have available to any of my colleagues who would like it on the other side of the aisle.

00:13:52.020 Some may view this as an unserious caricature and not appropriate for this committee.

00:13:58.300 Sadly, I consider it a serious caricature of what I expect to be witnessed today.

00:14:06.960 I think we'll have words like enemies list and deep state.

00:14:12.020 I've already X'd out four boxes in the opening statements alone.

00:14:17.160 The fact of the matter is some people will be here to simply substantiate a false narrative.

00:14:25.380 At worst, they may be just going through an unfounded litany of quotes and half quotes and half truths,

00:14:36.060 some of which have already been dispelled by the chairman after the opening statements.

00:14:42.940 Mr. Chair and Ranking Member, in my 10 years in the Senate, I hope I've established a reputation for being fair,

00:14:49.940 doing my homework, and taking tough positions that have been met with harsh criticism.

00:14:55.900 Heck, I've even been censured by my entire state and 30 counties for taking tough positions.

00:15:03.880 And I stand by those decisions today and my decision to support Cash Patel.

00:15:09.620 When President Trump announced his intent to nominate Cash,

00:15:14.340 I contacted Trey Gowdy and others who worked with Cash,

00:15:18.820 and they gave me glowing recommendations.

00:15:21.620 So I called Cash on December 2nd, and I offered to help him with his nomination.

00:15:29.320 Since then, we have spent hours together, in person and on the phone.

00:15:34.720 I've asked him difficult questions, and I've urged him to reach out to members across the aisle.

00:15:39.980 In fact, Cash Patel has met with 60 members of the U.S. Senate.

00:15:44.020 Every member except the last three who were sworn in,

00:15:47.820 and the majority of the members on the other side of the dais in this committee and members of the committee.

00:15:54.880 Chair Grassley, Ranking Member Durbin, friends and colleagues on the committee,

00:16:00.920 I've completed my due diligence of Cash Patel,

00:16:03.800 and I am honored to provide my strongest recommendation for his confirmation.

00:16:09.540 Thank you, Mr. Chair.

00:16:10.740 Thank you for that introduction.

00:16:13.780 Before I swear you, I wanted to make clear that before you give your statement,

00:16:19.700 if you want to introduce family and friends in the audience, you're welcome to do that.

00:16:24.220 Would you please stand?

00:16:26.260 Raise your hand.

00:16:28.800 Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give to the committee

00:16:34.780 will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

00:16:38.460 So help you God.

00:16:39.760 I do, Mr. Chair.

00:16:40.480 You may proceed.

00:16:45.720 We hit the tolls.

00:16:46.800 Chairman Grassley, Ranking Member Durbin, and members of the leadership.

00:16:51.680 Baltimore, Fairfax County.

00:16:54.200 We had DOD and federal officials there,

00:16:58.740 and these first responders, as always, ran towards the tragedy.

00:17:02.640 There will be a time to figure out what happened and how we rectify it, but today our thoughts

00:17:09.860 and prayers ought to be with the families and, again, thanking our first responders.

00:17:14.060 Ms. Gabbard, welcome, and congratulations on your nomination to be the next director of national intelligence.

00:17:21.820 I'd like to begin by thanking you, literally, for your decades of public service, both in uniform and as a member of Congress from Hawaii.

00:17:32.680 I applaud your continuing commitment to serve should you be confirmed.

00:17:39.920 Now, the president has nominated you to be director of national intelligence.

00:17:43.480 Most folks probably don't understand the importance of this position.

00:17:48.280 If confirmed, you would lead 18 agencies of the IC.

00:17:53.840 You'll also serve as the principal advisor to the president, the National Security Council, and the Homeland Security Council

00:18:02.400 for all intelligence matters related to national security.

00:18:06.880 And in this role, you'll be responsible for over $100 billion between the National Intelligence Program

00:18:13.700 and the Military Intelligence Program, or the NIP and the MIP, as we call them here.

00:18:19.100 It's a position of great importance and significance to our national security, created after one of our worst national security failures, 9-11.

00:18:29.400 For that reason, when Congress established this position, thanks in large part to our colleague and our friend Susan Collins,

00:18:37.780 it mandated in law that any individual nominated for this position must have, and I quote,

00:18:44.680 extensive national security expertise.

00:18:47.100 Now, I appreciated you taking the time to meet with me, and as I noted in that office, both before and after,

00:18:56.100 I continue to have significant concerns about your judgment and your qualifications to meet the standards set by law.

00:19:05.200 First, as I noted previously, the DNI was created in part to make sure we had appropriate intelligence sharing,

00:19:12.940 which prior to 9-11, obviously we haven't.

00:19:14.940 But the mission also is to not only share information between the IC, but also with our allies.

00:19:24.560 There's no legal requirement that our allies share intelligence with us.

00:19:29.100 It's all predicated on trust.

00:19:31.740 Trust that our allies will protect each other's secrets.

00:19:34.460 It appears to me you have repeatedly excused our adversaries' worst actions,

00:19:42.760 and instead often blamed them on the United States and those very allies.

00:19:47.940 For example, you blamed NATO for Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

00:19:54.560 You rejected the conclusion that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria,

00:19:58.920 despite it being the unanimous assessment of the then-Trump administration's DOD, State Department, and IC,

00:20:06.960 as well as the assessment of our European allies.

00:20:10.300 Instead, you blamed the United States for supporting terrorist groups in Syria.

00:20:14.720 Now, I don't know if your intent in making those statements was to defend those dictators,

00:20:20.100 or if you were simply unaware of the intelligence and how your statements would be perceived.

00:20:26.700 In either case, it raises, at least for this senator, serious questions about your judgment.

00:20:32.500 It also leads me to question whether you can develop the trust necessary to give our allies confidence

00:20:42.120 that they can share their most sensitive intelligence with us.

00:20:47.580 Make no mistake about it.

00:20:49.300 If they stop sharing that intelligence, the United States will be less safe.

00:20:55.260 We've seen this as recently as this past year,

00:20:57.620 where because of those strong intelligence sharing between the United States and Austria,

00:21:03.600 countless lives were saved by disrupting a terrorist attack

00:21:06.880 that was going to take place at the Taylor Swift concert in Vienna.

00:21:11.220 Second, you have been publicly outspoken in your praise and defense of Edward Snowden,

00:21:17.760 someone who betrayed the trust of our nation

00:21:21.220 and jeopardized the security of our country.

00:21:23.760 The truth is, the vast majority of the information he stole and leaked

00:21:29.920 before running off to China and Russia,

00:21:33.740 might I add, had nothing to do with Americans' privacy

00:21:36.280 and compromised our most important sources and methods.

00:21:42.900 And in many ways, we're still paying a price for that.

00:21:45.520 And I believe that Edward Snowden's action

00:21:47.420 put our men and women in uniform in places like Iraq and Afghanistan at risk.

00:21:51.460 You have celebrated Snowden as a, quote,

00:21:55.220 brave whistleblower

00:21:56.180 and actually put forward legislation asking for his pardon.

00:22:00.740 Furthermore, when given the opportunity to clarify your position

00:22:04.660 in pre-hearing questions, you declined.

00:22:08.760 And instead, you expressed, and again, I quote,

00:22:10.900 the DNI has no role in determining whether or not

00:22:14.760 Edward Snowden is a lawful whistleblower.

00:22:17.460 Boy, boy, boy, that is troubling to me in so many ways.

00:22:24.020 Not only do you think that someone who divulged secrets

00:22:26.960 and then ran off to Russia should be celebrated as brave,

00:22:31.540 but you don't seem to understand the DNI's role

00:22:34.340 in determining whistleblower determinations.

00:22:38.500 In fact, the DNI has a significant role

00:22:42.860 in transmitting lawful whistleblower complaints to this committee.

00:22:47.260 We're going to go back to Cash Patel.

00:22:48.660 We're going to come back to Tulsi and Bobby.

00:22:50.220 Let's hit it.

00:22:51.380 ...unanswered by the FBI in recent times.

00:22:54.940 That will not occur if I am confirmed.

00:22:57.260 All appropriate requests for information

00:22:58.900 will be responded to expeditiously and fully.

00:23:01.700 I'm committed to working alongside the dedicated men and women of the FBI.

00:23:05.440 They are warriors of justice, and I will always have their backs

00:23:09.300 because they have the backs of the American people.

00:23:12.060 I look forward to answering your questions,

00:23:13.960 and I want to take a moment to thank my family, my friends,

00:23:18.060 people who have traveled here, and my entire team

00:23:20.820 that has made this day possible.

00:23:23.180 God bless America, and I look forward to your questions.

00:23:25.360 Thank you.

00:23:35.440 Seven minutes, first round.

00:23:40.140 Is that right?

00:23:40.920 Seven minutes, three minutes, the second round.

00:23:45.920 Mr. Patel.

00:23:47.580 Go, hit it.

00:23:51.020 I'm not going to go through all the things that you've done

00:23:54.560 through your career, because I said those in my opening statements,

00:23:59.840 but Democrats on the committee.

00:24:02.640 That allows us to seek out those foreign foreigners abroad for coverage,

00:24:09.040 and it's helped prevent terrorist attacks.

00:24:12.260 It helps us prevent foreign cyber attacks.

00:24:15.200 It helps us on a topic that a lot of folks are looking at,

00:24:17.600 fentanyl trafficking.

00:24:19.500 Now, many in this Congress and many on the committee

00:24:22.300 have tried to reform this legislation

00:24:26.080 to better balance security and civil liberties.

00:24:30.420 However, you have consistently gone further.

00:24:34.300 Not only did you vote against reauthorizing 702,

00:24:37.580 you actually introduced legislation

00:24:39.460 to fully repeal the whole thing,

00:24:43.240 calling it, again, quote,

00:24:44.220 a blatant disregard for our Fourth Amendment constitutional rights.

00:24:48.060 Now, I understand that since you've been nominated to be D&I,

00:24:54.640 you've expressed a change of heart.

00:24:58.520 I think that's welcome, but I have to tell you,

00:25:01.580 as I try to make, I view this as a job interview,

00:25:03.540 as I try to make my judgment on whether you should be confirmed,

00:25:07.440 I think this, I don't find your change of heart credible.

00:25:10.880 Because the world today is more complex

00:25:12.940 and more dangerous than ever before.

00:25:14.800 And we need serious people with sufficient experience

00:25:17.680 to be able to navigate that complexity.

00:25:20.660 I hope you use this opportunity

00:25:22.120 to address my concerns

00:25:24.500 and all of the members of this committee.

00:25:27.220 I appreciate, again, your service,

00:25:28.900 and I'm looking forward to a thorough discussion.

00:25:30.640 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:25:33.500 Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman.

00:25:36.420 We welcome back

00:25:37.600 Senator Richard Burr,

00:25:39.960 the former chairman of this committee

00:25:42.120 who has emerged from retirement

00:25:43.580 to introduce Ms. Gabbard.

00:25:45.860 We're going to go to Bobby Kennedy's real quickly.

00:25:50.020 Cassidy, the chairman.

00:25:52.680 Will you say unequivocally,

00:25:55.020 will you reassure mothers unequivocally

00:25:59.460 and without qualification

00:26:00.620 that the measles and hepatitis B vaccines

00:26:03.760 do not cause autism?

00:26:05.240 Senator, I am not going into the agency with any...

00:26:08.680 Well, that's kind of a yes or no question.

00:26:10.680 Because the data is there.

00:26:16.060 And that's kind of a yes or no.

00:26:17.440 And I don't mean to cut you off,

00:26:18.500 but that really is a yes or no.

00:26:20.360 If the data is there,

00:26:21.780 I will absolutely do that.

00:26:24.400 Now, there is the data

00:26:25.360 just because I used to do hepatitis B,

00:26:28.420 as I've said.

00:26:29.240 I know the data is there.

00:26:31.080 Well, then I will be the first person,

00:26:34.120 if you show me data,

00:26:35.460 I will be the first person

00:26:37.220 to assure the American people

00:26:40.360 that they need to take those vaccines.

00:26:42.940 Now, what concerns me

00:26:44.160 is that you've cast doubt

00:26:46.300 on some of these vaccines recently,

00:26:48.480 I mean, like the last few years.

00:26:50.060 But the data,

00:26:51.000 and I can quote some of it,

00:26:52.540 the data has been there for a long time.

00:26:56.500 I've been out of the game.

00:26:57.720 I've been in Congress for 16 years.

00:26:59.600 And this data was in large measure

00:27:01.400 generated before I came to Congress.

00:27:03.980 So my concern is that

00:27:05.920 if you were making those claims

00:27:08.140 and being so influential,

00:27:09.720 I mean, your bully pup is incredible.

00:27:11.860 With that responsibility

00:27:13.160 that you never acquainted yourself

00:27:16.140 with anything that might contradict

00:27:18.560 that which you were previously saying.

00:27:21.620 So let me ask once more.

00:27:23.500 If the data is brought to you

00:27:25.080 and these studies that have been out there

00:27:27.100 for quite some time

00:27:27.860 and have been peer-reviewed,

00:27:29.140 and it shows that these two vaccines

00:27:31.280 are not associated with autism,

00:27:33.840 will you ask,

00:27:34.620 no, I need even more?

00:27:35.920 Or will you say,

00:27:36.680 no, I see this.

00:27:38.800 It's stood the test of time.

00:27:40.340 And I unequivocally

00:27:41.340 and without qualification

00:27:43.000 say that this does not cause autism.

00:27:44.660 Not only will I do that,

00:27:46.080 but I will apologize

00:27:47.020 for any statements

00:27:48.520 that misled people otherwise.

00:27:50.920 Thank you.

00:27:51.940 Next.

00:27:52.300 I just want to pledge to you

00:27:54.560 that I will never stick on a point

00:27:57.900 if somebody shows me data

00:27:59.380 that says I'm wrong.

00:28:00.740 I know that's an interpretation

00:28:03.160 people have,

00:28:04.480 but it's absolutely wrong.

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00:32:20.100 I think the concern

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00:32:23.880 people are.

00:32:24.360 But let me go on

00:32:24.840 because I have limited time.

00:32:25.680 I'm going to hold myself

00:32:26.280 to the same five minutes.

00:32:27.900 Yesterday,

00:32:28.480 Senator Bennett in finance

00:32:29.640 asked you if you had once

00:32:31.780 previously made statements

00:32:32.840 that Lyme disease was created

00:32:34.220 as a military bioweapon,

00:32:35.820 and you said you may have

00:32:36.880 said that once.

00:32:38.040 Do you still believe

00:32:39.180 that Lyme disease

00:32:39.880 was created as a military

00:32:41.880 bioweapon?

00:32:42.560 I've never believed that,

00:32:44.020 Senator.

00:32:44.280 What I said is

00:32:45.720 that we should always

00:32:48.980 follow the evidence.

00:32:50.480 There were three books

00:32:51.640 suggesting that.

00:32:52.760 I have not read them through.

00:32:55.100 What I've said is

00:32:55.900 we should always follow

00:32:56.900 evidence,

00:32:57.420 no matter what it says.

00:32:58.640 So I never have said

00:32:59.920 that definitively Lyme disease

00:33:01.660 was created in a biolab.

00:33:03.980 Okay.

00:33:05.700 Next.

00:33:06.700 Again,

00:33:07.120 this will be kind of

00:33:07.620 a yes or no.

00:33:08.780 Do you commit

00:33:09.540 that you'll revise

00:33:11.980 any CDC recommendations

00:33:13.440 only based on peer review,

00:33:16.560 consensus-based,

00:33:17.620 widely accepted science?

00:33:19.340 In other words,

00:33:20.320 not personal beliefs

00:33:21.380 or the beliefs

00:33:21.980 of any single person

00:33:23.020 that you or your department

00:33:24.540 may identify.

00:33:25.920 Absolutely, Senator.

00:33:27.360 I am not going to go

00:33:29.640 into HHS

00:33:30.460 and impose

00:33:32.520 my preordained opinions

00:33:34.860 on anybody at HHS.

00:33:37.200 I'm going to empower

00:33:38.380 the scientists at HHS

00:33:39.800 to do their job

00:33:41.060 and make sure

00:33:42.220 that we have good science

00:33:43.820 that's evidence-based,

00:33:45.100 that's replicatable,

00:33:46.520 where the raw data

00:33:49.960 is published.

00:33:50.320 I'm almost out of time,

00:33:51.160 so let me get to another question.

00:33:52.240 All right.

00:33:53.400 Do you promise

00:33:54.220 that FDA will not

00:33:55.300 deprioritize

00:33:56.440 our delay review

00:33:57.400 and our approval

00:33:58.380 of new vaccines

00:33:59.320 and that vaccine review standards

00:34:01.480 will not change

00:34:02.340 from historical norms?

00:34:03.940 We will have

00:34:04.700 the best vaccine standards

00:34:06.380 with safety studies

00:34:07.220 and I will...

00:34:09.960 That's a little bit

00:34:10.840 of a different answer

00:34:11.620 than the question I asked

00:34:12.960 because what is the best

00:34:15.000 could be in the eyes

00:34:16.300 of the beholder.

00:34:17.600 So let me read again.

00:34:19.040 Promise that the FDA

00:34:20.100 will not deprioritize

00:34:21.660 our delay review

00:34:22.640 and our approval

00:34:23.660 of new vaccines

00:34:24.620 and that vaccine review standards

00:34:26.620 will not change

00:34:27.360 from historical norms.

00:34:28.800 Yes.

00:34:29.980 Great.

00:34:30.640 With that,

00:34:31.160 I will set a good example

00:34:32.620 and I yield my time

00:34:34.280 to...

00:34:35.640 Thank you, Member.

00:34:37.500 Thank you, Chairman Cassidy

00:34:38.820 and I'm going to do

00:34:39.380 what I very rarely do

00:34:40.420 is actually follow up

00:34:41.420 on a question

00:34:41.980 from Senator Cassidy.

00:34:46.100 There have been,

00:34:47.620 as I understand it,

00:34:48.720 dozens of studies

00:34:49.640 done all over the world

00:34:51.100 that make it very clear

00:34:54.140 that vaccines

00:34:56.080 do not cause autism.

00:34:58.400 Now, you just said,

00:34:59.320 if I heard correctly,

00:35:00.100 well, if the evidence is there.

00:35:02.220 The evidence is there.

00:35:04.840 That's it.

00:35:06.760 Vaccines do not cause autism.

00:35:10.860 Do you agree with that?

00:35:13.240 As I said,

00:35:14.180 I'm not going to go into HHS

00:35:15.840 with any preordained...

00:35:17.300 I ask you a simple question, Bobby.

00:35:19.720 Studies all over the world

00:35:21.220 say it does not.

00:35:22.320 What do you think?

00:35:23.300 Senator,

00:35:23.920 if you show me those studies,

00:35:25.860 I will absolutely,

00:35:27.260 as I promised to Chairman Cassidy,

00:35:29.380 I will apologize.

00:35:30.280 That is a very troubling response

00:35:32.360 because the studies are there.

00:35:34.500 Your job was to have

00:35:35.340 looked at those studies

00:35:36.320 as an applicant for this job.

00:35:38.560 All right.

00:35:39.320 Let me ask you another question

00:35:40.660 about this one,

00:35:41.760 about COVID.

00:35:43.620 Scientists with the Yale School

00:35:45.580 of Public Health

00:35:46.300 and University of Maryland

00:35:47.360 have estimated

00:35:48.000 that the COVID vaccine

00:35:49.820 saved 3 million lives

00:35:51.420 and prevented 18 million

00:35:52.880 hospitalizations.

00:35:54.440 President Trump,

00:35:56.000 someone who I do not

00:35:57.440 often agree with,

00:35:59.300 has said that the COVID vaccine

00:36:01.060 was, quote,

00:36:01.820 one of the greatest miracles

00:36:03.260 of the ages.

00:36:04.500 That's Donald Trump.

00:36:06.840 But, Bobby,

00:36:08.520 you had a very different perspective.

00:36:10.320 At a time when thousands

00:36:11.340 of Americans were dying

00:36:12.520 from COVID,

00:36:13.480 every week in May of 2021,

00:36:15.820 you petitioned

00:36:16.540 the Food and Drug Administration

00:36:17.540 to revoke the emergency use

00:36:19.220 of COVID vaccines.

00:36:20.440 We're going to go back

00:36:23.100 to Dick Durbin,

00:36:24.020 Drillin, Cash Patel.

00:36:27.400 This is not the only instance

00:36:29.400 of a person who received

00:36:31.240 President Trump's clemency

00:36:33.120 committing another crime.

00:36:35.960 Peter Schwartz was mentioned

00:36:37.080 this morning on the radio.

00:36:39.240 38 criminal convictions.

00:36:41.380 38.

00:36:42.460 He'd been sentenced

00:36:43.260 to 14 years in prison.

00:36:47.340 He was released

00:36:48.500 because of the president's

00:36:49.720 unconditional clemency

00:36:51.280 that was given to him as well.

00:36:53.300 So I guess my question is this.

00:36:55.800 Was President Donald Trump

00:36:57.300 wrong to give blanket clemency

00:36:58.880 to the January 6th defendants?

00:37:02.180 Thank you, ranking member.

00:37:04.400 A couple of things on that.

00:37:05.840 One, the power

00:37:06.700 of the presidential pardon

00:37:07.980 is just that,

00:37:09.020 the president.

00:37:10.020 Alignment,

00:37:10.560 I concede he has the authority.

00:37:12.080 I'm asking,

00:37:12.600 was he wrong to do it?

00:37:13.740 And as we discussed

00:37:15.340 in our private meeting,

00:37:16.500 Senator,

00:37:16.760 I have always rejected

00:37:19.640 any violence

00:37:20.780 against law enforcement

00:37:21.860 and I have including

00:37:23.480 in that group

00:37:24.700 specifically addressed

00:37:26.000 any violence

00:37:26.940 against law enforcement

00:37:27.760 on January 6th

00:37:29.040 and I do not agree

00:37:30.240 with the commutation

00:37:31.240 of any sentence

00:37:32.280 of any individual

00:37:33.340 who committed violence

00:37:34.540 against law enforcement.

00:37:35.640 So do you think

00:37:36.980 that America is safer

00:37:38.220 because these 1,600 people

00:37:40.080 have been given

00:37:41.440 an opportunity

00:37:42.040 to come out of

00:37:43.540 serving their sentences

00:37:44.920 and live in our communities again?

00:37:47.880 Senator,

00:37:48.700 I have not looked

00:37:49.840 at all 1,600 individual cases.

00:37:52.420 I have always advocated

00:37:54.440 for imprisoning those

00:37:56.300 that cause harm

00:37:57.380 to our law enforcement

00:37:58.600 and civilian communities.

00:38:00.100 I also believe

00:38:01.380 America is not safer

00:38:02.980 because President Biden's

00:38:04.380 commutation of a man

00:38:05.860 who murdered

00:38:06.460 two FBI agents.

00:38:07.940 Agent Kohler's

00:38:08.600 and Williams' family

00:38:09.520 deserve better

00:38:10.600 than to have

00:38:11.480 the man

00:38:12.260 that point-blank range

00:38:13.640 fired a shotgun

00:38:14.940 into their heads

00:38:15.960 and murdered them

00:38:16.600 released from prison.

00:38:17.720 So it goes both ways.

00:38:19.460 Leonard Pelletier

00:38:20.200 was in prison

00:38:20.780 for 45 years.

00:38:21.960 He's 80 years old

00:38:22.800 and he was sentenced

00:38:24.060 to home confinement.

00:38:25.460 So he's not free

00:38:26.760 as you might have

00:38:27.680 just suggested.

00:38:28.780 He killed two FBI agents.

00:38:30.260 That's unacceptable.

00:38:30.720 That's true, he did.

00:38:31.280 And he went to prison

00:38:32.140 for it and should have.

00:38:33.020 My question to you though

00:38:34.580 is do you think

00:38:35.420 America is safer

00:38:36.380 because President Trump

00:38:38.740 issued these pardons

00:38:39.960 to 1,600 of these

00:38:41.340 criminal defendants

00:38:42.160 many of whom

00:38:43.060 violently assaulted

00:38:44.240 our police in the Capitol?

00:38:46.460 Senator,

00:38:46.840 America will be safe

00:38:47.900 when we don't have

00:38:48.840 200,000 drug overdoses

00:38:50.960 in two years.

00:38:52.000 America will be safe

00:38:52.780 when we don't have

00:38:53.220 50 homicides in a day.

00:38:55.300 So you just won't

00:38:56.000 answer the question.

00:38:56.980 I am here.

00:38:57.780 I don't think we're safer

00:38:59.360 with Matthew Shuttle

00:39:01.500 or Matthew Huddle

00:39:03.160 was sent back to Indiana.

00:39:05.140 I don't think we're safer

00:39:06.420 with Peter Schwartz.

00:39:07.460 I could go through

00:39:07.980 a long list of individuals,

00:39:10.120 some of the who are

00:39:10.980 wanted in states

00:39:11.760 members of this committee.

00:39:13.300 Let me move to another

00:39:14.740 topic if I can.

00:39:16.720 Tell me about your

00:39:17.560 J6 choir.

00:39:18.820 What is that?

00:39:20.580 Well, it's not my choir.

00:39:22.520 It's simply a recording

00:39:23.800 that was utilized

00:39:24.620 to raise funds

00:39:26.800 for families

00:39:27.640 in need of

00:39:28.520 nonviolent offenders.

00:39:29.800 Who sings

00:39:30.340 on this recording?

00:39:31.500 I don't know, Senator.

00:39:33.940 What did you have

00:39:35.000 to do with it?

00:39:36.320 Simply to raise funds

00:39:38.480 to assist families

00:39:40.000 of nonviolent offenders

00:39:41.180 whose kids

00:39:41.900 needed college education

00:39:43.400 payments

00:39:43.780 and whose rent

00:39:44.440 needed being paid.

00:39:45.220 My understanding

00:39:46.140 is that the performers

00:39:47.460 on this J6 choir

00:39:49.180 were the rioters

00:39:50.460 who were in prison.

00:39:51.940 I'm not aware of that, sir.

00:39:52.920 I didn't have anything

00:39:53.460 to do with the recording.

00:39:54.620 You weren't aware

00:39:56.300 of who made the recording?

00:39:58.380 No, Senator.

00:39:59.720 That's interesting.

00:40:01.980 Did you receive

00:40:03.060 any money

00:40:03.480 for selling copies

00:40:04.900 of that music

00:40:06.300 or that recording?

00:40:07.420 Absolutely not.

00:40:08.420 Okay.

00:40:09.020 You do have

00:40:09.740 a foundation, though,

00:40:10.760 do you not?

00:40:11.720 I'm very proud

00:40:12.600 of the Cash Foundation

00:40:13.500 and the $1.3 million

00:40:14.720 we've given to families

00:40:16.100 in need across this country,

00:40:17.740 including active duty

00:40:18.740 service members,

00:40:19.640 police officers,

00:40:20.800 putting kids in college

00:40:21.820 and helping people

00:40:22.620 in disaster relief areas,

00:40:24.320 rebuild their homes

00:40:25.180 and their communities.

00:40:26.840 1-0 LLC.

00:40:28.500 Are you familiar

00:40:29.060 with that?

00:40:29.660 Sorry?

00:40:30.380 1-0 LLC?

00:40:32.940 I believe, Senator,

00:40:34.200 you're referring

00:40:34.740 to the LLC

00:40:35.620 that one of the

00:40:36.880 individuals

00:40:38.640 has his private

00:40:40.340 business with.

00:40:41.720 Is it part

00:40:42.560 of the Cash Foundation

00:40:43.540 in any way?

00:40:45.360 Only in that

00:40:46.480 one of the members

00:40:47.660 of the board

00:40:48.280 has that LLC

00:40:49.780 for his outside business.

00:40:51.120 Andrew Ellis?

00:40:52.780 I believe that's his name.

00:40:53.640 Yes.

00:40:53.920 Yes.

00:40:54.540 Do you know

00:40:55.120 how much was paid

00:40:55.820 to him

00:40:56.080 from your

00:40:56.720 charitable work?

00:40:59.200 Yes.

00:40:59.760 Like any other charity,

00:41:00.900 we had to go out

00:41:01.460 and fundraise,

00:41:02.300 something I'm sure

00:41:02.920 every member

00:41:03.360 of this committee

00:41:03.900 is familiar with.

00:41:04.840 And we use

00:41:05.180 digital marketing campaigns,

00:41:06.620 and I believe

00:41:07.320 we paid a digital

00:41:08.360 marketing company

00:41:09.160 through 1-0

00:41:09.960 a quarter million dollars

00:41:11.420 to raise

00:41:12.220 $500,000,

00:41:14.000 which we gave away

00:41:15.240 to families in need,

00:41:16.660 like when hurricanes

00:41:17.740 struck Florida,

00:41:18.740 Texas,

00:41:19.020 and North Carolina.

00:41:20.240 We will be going

00:41:20.840 through the details

00:41:24.320 of your foundation

00:41:25.520 and the expenditures

00:41:26.540 with the questions

00:41:27.940 for record

00:41:28.500 that the chairman

00:41:29.840 has mentioned.

00:41:30.820 I look forward to it.

00:41:31.400 You'll have a chance

00:41:31.660 to answer those

00:41:33.260 under oath.

00:41:35.360 Mr. Patel,

00:41:36.080 you frequently associated

00:41:37.200 with and sometimes

00:41:38.080 praised extremist figures

00:41:39.540 with the well-documented

00:41:40.580 histories of racism,

00:41:42.580 anti-Semitism,

00:41:43.580 conspiracies,

00:41:44.360 and the like.

00:41:45.340 In September of 2023,

00:41:46.620 you appeared

00:41:47.320 with Laura Loomer,

00:41:49.020 at an event

00:41:50.180 promoting your book,

00:41:51.420 this one here.

00:41:52.700 You shared a photo

00:41:53.620 of yourself

00:41:54.180 and Loomer

00:41:54.860 in which you held

00:41:55.700 her book

00:41:56.180 and she held yours.

00:41:57.660 Just a few months

00:41:58.540 before this event,

00:41:59.640 Ms. Loomer posted

00:42:00.540 on X that the September 11

00:42:02.520 terrorist attacks

00:42:03.620 were, quote,

00:42:04.340 an inside job.

00:42:06.220 Around that time,

00:42:07.000 she accused

00:42:07.460 Florida's First Lady,

00:42:09.280 Casey DeSantis,

00:42:10.240 of exaggerating

00:42:11.020 her cancer diagnosis

00:42:12.200 to gain voter sympathy.

00:42:14.480 A number of my

00:42:15.020 Republican colleagues

00:42:15.900 on this committee

00:42:16.520 have criticized

00:42:17.200 Ms. Loomer's extremism.

00:42:19.020 One of my colleagues

00:42:19.900 described her

00:42:20.500 as a, quote,

00:42:21.000 crazy conspiracy theorist

00:42:22.840 who regularly utters

00:42:24.180 disgusting garbage

00:42:25.340 and neither called

00:42:26.520 her really toxic.

00:42:28.120 Giving all this,

00:42:29.280 why did you associate

00:42:30.120 with Ms. Loomer?

00:42:31.900 Senator,

00:42:32.540 as you can see,

00:42:33.580 I took a photograph

00:42:34.320 with an individual

00:42:35.220 who showed up

00:42:37.400 at a book event.

00:42:38.460 I don't believe

00:42:39.200 I'm guilty

00:42:39.680 by association

00:42:40.620 and I certainly

00:42:41.800 don't believe

00:42:42.660 that an individual

00:42:43.700 who is the first

00:42:44.820 minority to serve

00:42:45.640 as a deputy director

00:42:46.520 of national intelligence

00:42:47.460 for this country

00:42:48.180 is a racist

00:42:48.860 in any way

00:42:49.900 and I detest

00:42:50.740 any conjecture

00:42:51.700 to the contrary.

00:42:53.440 Are you familiar

00:42:53.940 with a Stu Peters?

00:42:56.040 Does that name

00:42:56.540 ring a bell?

00:43:00.060 I'm sorry,

00:43:00.860 what?

00:43:01.200 Are you familiar

00:43:01.880 with Mr. Stu Peters?

00:43:06.160 Not off the top

00:43:06.960 of my head.

00:43:07.580 He made eight

00:43:08.200 separate appearances

00:43:09.100 on his podcast.

00:43:10.860 He promoted

00:43:11.360 outrageous conspiracy theories

00:43:13.020 and worked

00:43:13.680 with a prominent neo-Nazi.

00:43:16.680 They're more

00:43:17.080 Ted Nugent,

00:43:17.940 it goes on,

00:43:18.560 the list goes on.

00:43:19.260 I'm just asking,

00:43:20.460 when it comes

00:43:21.000 to your association

00:43:21.800 with individuals,

00:43:23.160 why are so many

00:43:24.000 of them

00:43:24.360 in this category?

00:43:27.340 My association,

00:43:29.120 as you loosely define it,

00:43:30.660 is by appearing

00:43:31.400 in media

00:43:31.900 over a thousand times

00:43:33.320 to take on people

00:43:34.920 who are putting

00:43:35.440 on conspiratorial theories

00:43:37.000 and to devour them

00:43:38.660 of their false impressions

00:43:40.960 and to talk to them

00:43:42.020 about the truth.

00:43:43.020 That is something

00:43:43.920 that I will always

00:43:44.740 continue to fight for,

00:43:45.980 Senator.

00:43:46.700 Senator Graham.

00:43:48.980 Thank you.

00:43:49.620 We'll eventually

00:43:50.260 talk about the FBI.

00:43:54.140 That's the job

00:43:55.020 you're up here for,

00:43:55.820 right?

00:43:57.220 Have you ever been

00:43:58.220 subject to racism

00:43:59.900 as an individual?

00:44:04.020 Condolences

00:44:04.580 to those

00:44:06.080 who were killed

00:44:06.840 in last night's

00:44:08.260 horrific crash.

00:44:10.240 Senator Warner,

00:44:11.200 Senator Moran,

00:44:12.060 our condolences

00:44:13.760 and prayers

00:44:14.300 are with you

00:44:14.900 and all of your

00:44:15.760 constituents.

00:44:18.600 Again,

00:44:19.140 Chairman Cotton

00:44:19.680 and Vice Chairman

00:44:20.860 Warner

00:44:21.400 and all of the members

00:44:22.380 of the committee,

00:44:22.960 it's an honor

00:44:23.280 to be here

00:44:23.720 before you today.

00:44:24.960 I've appreciated

00:44:25.580 the opportunity

00:44:26.120 to meet with

00:44:26.920 so many of you

00:44:27.760 and address

00:44:29.120 your questions

00:44:29.760 and concerns

00:44:30.460 before today's hearing.

00:44:31.640 I know they've gone,

00:44:33.080 but I'm grateful

00:44:33.660 to Senators

00:44:34.300 Burr and Ernst

00:44:35.200 for their trust

00:44:36.100 and their confidence

00:44:36.900 in taking time

00:44:37.660 to join us here today.

00:44:40.220 To my husband,

00:44:41.180 Abraham,

00:44:41.700 my family,

00:44:42.360 friends,

00:44:43.100 fellow veterans,

00:44:44.480 Medal of Honor

00:44:44.940 recipients,

00:44:46.220 and patriots,

00:44:47.060 thank you for your love

00:44:48.040 and support.

00:44:50.100 I'm honored

00:44:50.820 and grateful

00:44:51.280 to President Trump

00:44:52.220 for his trust

00:44:53.140 and confidence

00:44:53.860 in nominating me

00:44:54.860 to serve our country

00:44:55.820 as the Director

00:44:56.400 of National Intelligence

00:44:57.520 at a time

00:44:58.980 when trust

00:44:59.620 in the intelligence community

00:45:00.740 unfortunately

00:45:01.360 is at an all-time low.

00:45:03.700 Chuck Schumer

00:45:04.140 admitted a few years ago,

00:45:05.420 quote,

00:45:05.660 you take on

00:45:06.180 the intelligence community,

00:45:07.460 they have six ways

00:45:08.500 from Sunday

00:45:09.280 at getting back at you.

00:45:11.700 For too long,

00:45:13.060 faulty,

00:45:13.700 inadequate,

00:45:14.200 or weaponized intelligence

00:45:15.300 have led to costly failures

00:45:17.320 and the undermining

00:45:18.740 of our national security

00:45:20.040 and God-given freedoms

00:45:21.180 enshrined in the Constitution.

00:45:23.740 The most obvious example

00:45:25.340 of one of these failures

00:45:27.440 is our invasion of Iraq

00:45:28.680 based upon a total fabrication

00:45:30.560 or a complete failure

00:45:31.740 of intelligence.

00:45:33.600 This disastrous decision

00:45:35.220 led to the deaths

00:45:36.180 of tens of thousands

00:45:37.420 of American soldiers

00:45:38.600 and millions of people

00:45:40.080 in the Middle East,

00:45:41.480 mass migration,

00:45:42.760 destabilization

00:45:43.640 and undermining

00:45:44.360 of the security

00:45:44.980 and stability

00:45:45.520 of our European allies,

00:45:47.640 the rise of ISIS,

00:45:49.080 strengthening of Al-Qaeda

00:45:50.120 and other Islamist,

00:45:51.300 jihadist groups,

00:45:52.560 and strengthening Iran.

00:45:55.180 Here are just a few

00:45:56.120 other examples.

00:45:58.200 The American people

00:45:58.840 elected Donald Trump

00:45:59.820 as their president

00:46:00.520 not once but twice,

00:46:02.420 and yet the FBI

00:46:03.260 and intelligence agencies

00:46:04.460 were politicized

00:46:05.360 by his opponents

00:46:06.140 to undermine his presidency

00:46:07.620 and falsely portray him

00:46:09.880 as a puppet of Putin.

00:46:12.080 Title I of FISA

00:46:12.960 was used illegally

00:46:14.060 to obtain a warrant

00:46:15.440 to spy on Trump campaign

00:46:16.840 advisor Carter Page

00:46:18.040 using a Clinton campaign

00:46:19.720 funded false dossier

00:46:20.960 as their so-called evidence.

00:46:23.740 Biden campaign advisor

00:46:25.020 Tony Blinken

00:46:26.140 was the impetus

00:46:27.740 for the 51 former

00:46:29.040 senior intelligence officials

00:46:30.540 letter dismissing

00:46:31.680 Hunter Biden's laptop

00:46:32.840 as disinformation

00:46:34.340 specifically to help

00:46:35.620 Biden win the election.

00:46:38.420 Former DNI James Clapper

00:46:40.300 lied to this committee

00:46:41.480 in 2013

00:46:42.320 denying the existence

00:46:44.100 of programs

00:46:44.920 that facilitated

00:46:45.700 the mass collection

00:46:46.540 of millions of Americans'

00:46:47.840 phone and internet records,

00:46:49.840 yet was never held accountable.

00:46:51.980 Under John Brennan's leadership,

00:46:53.640 the CIA abused its power

00:46:54.960 to spy on Congress,

00:46:56.220 to dodge oversight,

00:46:57.980 lied about doing it

00:46:59.000 until he was caught,

00:47:00.400 and yet has never

00:47:01.240 been held responsible.

00:47:03.760 Under Biden,

00:47:04.640 the FBI abused its power

00:47:05.820 for political reasons

00:47:06.880 to try to surveil Catholics

00:47:08.360 who attend traditional

00:47:09.480 Latin mass,

00:47:11.200 labeling them as

00:47:11.980 quote-unquote

00:47:12.540 radical traditionalist Catholics.

00:47:15.840 Personally,

00:47:16.520 just 24 hours after

00:47:17.660 I criticized Kamala Harris

00:47:19.460 and her nomination,

00:47:20.460 I was placed on a secret

00:47:21.880 domestic terror watch list

00:47:23.180 called Quiet Skies.

00:47:25.040 Sadly,

00:47:25.720 there are more examples.

00:47:27.920 The bottom line is this.

00:47:29.220 This must end.

00:47:31.160 President Trump's re-election

00:47:32.400 is a clear mandate

00:47:33.500 from the American people

00:47:34.560 to break this cycle of failure,

00:47:36.520 end the weaponization

00:47:37.460 and politicization

00:47:38.380 of the intelligence community,

00:47:40.260 and begin to restore trust

00:47:42.720 in those who've been charged

00:47:44.020 with the critical task

00:47:45.140 of securing our nation.

00:47:47.560 If confirmed as DNI,

00:47:49.340 I will do my very best

00:47:50.720 to fulfill this mandate

00:47:52.400 and bring leadership

00:47:53.740 to the intelligence community

00:47:55.080 with a laser-like focus

00:47:56.600 on our essential mission,

00:47:59.460 ensuring the safety,

00:48:00.720 security,

00:48:01.200 and freedom

00:48:01.640 of the American people.

00:48:03.600 As the president's

00:48:05.060 principal intelligence advisor,

00:48:06.680 I'll begin by leading by example,

00:48:09.700 checking my own personal views

00:48:11.180 at the door,

00:48:12.100 and committing

00:48:12.620 to delivering intelligence

00:48:13.740 that is collected,

00:48:15.300 analyzed,

00:48:16.040 and reported

00:48:16.720 without bias,

00:48:18.680 prejudice,

00:48:19.280 or political influence.

00:48:21.720 I enlisted in the Army

00:48:22.980 because of the horrific terrorist attack

00:48:24.700 on September 11th,

00:48:25.940 and volunteered to deploy

00:48:27.780 to Iraq in 2005,

00:48:29.380 where I served

00:48:29.900 in a medical unit.

00:48:31.840 After nearly 22 years

00:48:33.600 in uniform

00:48:34.180 with three combat deployments

00:48:35.860 to the Middle East

00:48:36.680 and Africa,

00:48:37.900 I'm now a lieutenant colonel

00:48:39.200 in the U.S. Army Reserve,

00:48:40.380 where I serve

00:48:40.840 as a battalion commander

00:48:41.860 of soldiers in Oklahoma,

00:48:44.020 Missouri,

00:48:44.560 and Arkansas.

00:48:46.220 I served in Congress

00:48:47.400 for eight years

00:48:48.000 on the Homeland Security,

00:48:49.240 Foreign Affairs,

00:48:49.900 and Armed Services Committees.

00:48:51.960 And it's my experience

00:48:52.880 in the military

00:48:53.680 and in the halls of Congress

00:48:55.400 that have given me

00:48:56.240 a deep understanding

00:48:57.180 of the complex challenges

00:48:58.420 that our nation faces,

00:49:00.740 in both roles,

00:49:01.620 engaging with world leaders,

00:49:03.560 in both roles,

00:49:04.440 being privy

00:49:04.960 to highly classified intelligence.

00:49:07.520 So I know firsthand

00:49:08.760 how essential,

00:49:10.240 accurate,

00:49:11.200 unbiased

00:49:11.800 and timely intelligence

00:49:12.780 is to the President,

00:49:15.260 to Congress,

00:49:16.440 and to our warfighters.

00:49:18.440 I also know

00:49:19.080 the heavy cost

00:49:19.880 of intelligence failures

00:49:21.200 and abuses.

00:49:23.740 Senator Collins,

00:49:24.860 you led the creation

00:49:25.840 of ODNI

00:49:26.960 specifically to address

00:49:28.220 those intelligence failures.

00:49:29.400 We're going to go

00:49:29.960 to Bobby Kennedy

00:49:31.160 shortly.

00:49:32.800 But why did you

00:49:33.800 apologize to her then?

00:49:34.860 I apologize

00:49:35.640 for something else.

00:49:36.780 That, well,

00:49:40.680 that's not my understanding.

00:49:42.060 Are there,

00:49:42.660 let me just ask you.

00:49:43.280 All you have to read

00:49:44.160 is the text

00:49:44.800 which she published.

00:49:45.820 It's not for that.

00:49:47.720 That is not how I've read it.

00:49:49.160 Are there any other instances

00:49:50.240 where you have made

00:49:51.120 sexual advances

00:49:51.940 towards an individual

00:49:53.240 without their consent?

00:49:54.320 Just yes or no?

00:49:55.120 No.

00:49:55.520 Mr. Kennedy,

00:50:01.660 you said that

00:50:03.200 you're going to say

00:50:03.960 to NIH scientists,

00:50:05.140 God bless you all.

00:50:05.940 Thank you for your public service.

00:50:07.260 We're going to give

00:50:07.720 infectious disease

00:50:08.940 a break for eight years.

00:50:10.380 Excuse me?

00:50:11.480 You said you were,

00:50:13.080 you just said

00:50:13.780 thank you for your service

00:50:14.680 to our federal employees.

00:50:16.340 You want to give

00:50:17.040 infectious disease a break.

00:50:18.660 That's a quote.

00:50:19.880 Will you support

00:50:20.880 the development

00:50:21.400 and distribution

00:50:21.980 of vaccines

00:50:22.700 for the avian flu?

00:50:23.740 Yes or no?

00:50:25.540 Will I,

00:50:26.960 for the avian flu?

00:50:28.500 Yes.

00:50:30.540 My time's almost up,

00:50:31.940 but having read a lot

00:50:33.500 and listened a lot,

00:50:34.520 I just want to remind

00:50:35.800 all my colleagues

00:50:36.560 that by voting

00:50:37.920 to confirm Mr. Kennedy,

00:50:39.380 we would be telling

00:50:40.120 our constituents

00:50:40.960 he's worth listening to.

00:50:42.840 That alone

00:50:43.760 could get people killed

00:50:45.520 before he even lifts a finger

00:50:47.640 because he does not even need

00:50:49.420 the levers of power

00:50:50.880 to influence people

00:50:52.600 as we saw in Samoa.

00:50:54.140 All he needs

00:50:54.720 is a megaphone.

00:50:55.900 To affirm his views

00:50:57.160 by voting to confirm him

00:50:58.500 as our highest health official,

00:51:00.560 we should not miss words

00:51:01.760 about what that would mean.

00:51:03.240 When babies die

00:51:04.240 from whoopee cough

00:51:04.980 because parents weren't sure

00:51:06.580 if the vaccine was safe,

00:51:08.320 we will have to look them

00:51:09.220 in the eye.

00:51:10.000 When measles sweeps

00:51:11.100 through school,

00:51:11.740 then hospitals,

00:51:12.580 nursing wards,

00:51:13.280 will this be worth it?

00:51:14.880 There are political realities.

00:51:16.820 We all get that,

00:51:17.920 but there's also

00:51:18.520 right and wrong,

00:51:19.620 fact and fiction.

00:51:20.400 And there's also people

00:51:22.400 staying healthy

00:51:23.380 or dying pointlessly

00:51:24.740 from diseases

00:51:25.860 we can prevent

00:51:27.120 because they thought

00:51:28.320 Congress took its job

00:51:29.420 vetting our health care

00:51:30.320 secretary seriously.

00:51:32.100 Thank you,

00:51:32.480 Mr. Chairman.

00:51:32.760 We're going to now

00:51:34.000 go out of order.

00:51:34.820 We're going to go

00:51:35.240 to Senator Marshall.

00:51:36.420 He would like to be able

00:51:37.780 to view the press conference

00:51:39.140 regarding the tragedy

00:51:40.040 on the plane from Wichita.

00:51:42.580 Senator Marshall.

00:51:43.660 Well, thank you,

00:51:44.260 Mr. Chairman.

00:51:44.780 Okay, we're going to go

00:51:46.960 back to Tulsi.

00:51:48.980 Let's go to Tulsi Gabbard.

00:51:50.320 Back to Tulsi Gabbard.

00:51:51.380 As you see,

00:51:52.000 we're juggling a lot of balls

00:51:53.020 here trying to get

00:51:53.620 the most intense moments.

00:51:55.180 And my love for our country.

00:51:58.220 Those who oppose

00:51:59.220 my nomination imply

00:52:00.380 that I am loyal

00:52:01.120 to something or someone

00:52:03.100 other than God,

00:52:05.100 my own conscience,

00:52:06.500 and the Constitution

00:52:07.380 of the United States,

00:52:09.600 accusing me of being

00:52:10.740 Trump's puppet,

00:52:12.020 Putin's puppet,

00:52:13.020 Assad's puppet,

00:52:13.820 a guru's puppet,

00:52:14.960 Modi's puppet,

00:52:16.080 not recognizing

00:52:17.200 the absurdity

00:52:18.440 of simultaneously

00:52:19.800 being the puppet

00:52:21.500 of five different

00:52:22.700 puppet masters.

00:52:24.960 The same tactic

00:52:25.860 was used against

00:52:26.700 President Trump

00:52:27.460 and failed.

00:52:29.740 The American people

00:52:30.540 elected President Trump

00:52:31.600 with a decisive victory

00:52:32.840 and mandate for change.

00:52:35.220 Let's go.

00:52:35.820 We're going back

00:52:36.660 to Kash Patel.

00:52:37.780 It's getting grilled.

00:52:39.320 ...themselves willing

00:52:40.560 to do violence

00:52:41.980 on Trump's call.

00:52:43.820 In only 10 days,

00:52:46.040 some are already back

00:52:48.140 committing crimes.

00:52:51.800 We've also tried

00:52:53.080 as a committee,

00:52:53.880 together,

00:52:54.720 to address the dangers

00:52:56.040 of illicit drug sales

00:52:57.680 over the Internet.

00:52:58.800 And I assume

00:52:59.560 we're all against

00:53:00.340 murder for hire.

00:53:01.720 But Trump also

00:53:02.880 just pardoned

00:53:03.720 a dark web operator

00:53:04.900 sentenced to life

00:53:05.780 in prison

00:53:06.240 for trafficking

00:53:07.300 illegal drugs online

00:53:08.580 and accused

00:53:09.480 of soliciting

00:53:10.360 murders for hire.

00:53:13.300 Those pardons,

00:53:14.800 as Mr. Patel

00:53:16.000 has said,

00:53:16.580 are a mistake,

00:53:17.340 but they are also

00:53:17.960 a signal

00:53:18.600 that we are entering

00:53:20.480 a strange

00:53:21.300 and dangerous time.

00:53:22.960 That is the context

00:53:24.460 for today's hearing.

00:53:25.960 Warnings that the FBI

00:53:27.500 could become

00:53:28.340 Trump's enforcer,

00:53:29.960 use the powers

00:53:31.240 of law enforcement

00:53:32.100 to stifle speech

00:53:33.440 and dissent.

00:53:34.860 Punish political rivals

00:53:36.260 of either party.

00:53:38.760 And hand out

00:53:39.340 free passes,

00:53:40.180 get out of jail

00:53:40.740 free cards

00:53:41.260 to violent supporters,

00:53:42.820 are warnings

00:53:43.860 we should heed.

00:53:45.800 Here are some warnings

00:53:47.500 of this nominee's

00:53:48.920 Trump administration

00:53:50.560 colleagues.

00:53:52.440 Former Attorney General

00:53:53.640 Bill Barr said,

00:53:54.660 this nominee

00:53:55.840 has virtually

00:53:56.760 no experience

00:53:57.940 that would qualify him

00:53:59.400 to serve

00:54:00.460 at the highest level

00:54:01.680 of the world's

00:54:02.800 preeminent law enforcement

00:54:04.040 agency,

00:54:05.000 end quote,

00:54:05.960 and we would never

00:54:07.500 be able to command

00:54:08.620 the respect necessary

00:54:09.740 to run the day-to-day

00:54:11.100 operations of the Bureau.

00:54:13.500 That's for the deputy

00:54:14.640 position.

00:54:16.580 Former CIA Director

00:54:17.780 Gina Haspel

00:54:18.600 was reported

00:54:19.380 threatening to resign

00:54:21.220 rather than have

00:54:23.700 this nominee

00:54:24.440 serve under her.

00:54:26.700 John Bolton,

00:54:27.800 Trump's former

00:54:28.420 National Security Advisor,

00:54:29.700 said,

00:54:30.540 I didn't think

00:54:31.220 he was qualified.

00:54:33.080 I was forced

00:54:34.000 to hire him.

00:54:36.360 Trump's deputy

00:54:37.560 National Security Advisor,

00:54:39.260 the nominee's

00:54:39.880 former supervisor,

00:54:41.000 said,

00:54:42.080 his ideas

00:54:42.840 are ludicrous.

00:54:44.920 He's absolutely

00:54:46.280 unqualified

00:54:47.180 for this job.

00:54:49.280 He's untrustworthy.

00:54:52.120 And it's

00:54:53.140 an absolute disgrace

00:54:54.500 to even consider

00:54:55.580 an individual

00:54:56.300 of this nature.

00:54:57.680 That's from

00:54:58.460 Republican appointees

00:55:00.180 who worked

00:55:01.160 with him.

00:55:03.040 And here's what

00:55:04.140 this nominee

00:55:04.680 himself has said

00:55:05.980 about using

00:55:08.100 his office

00:55:09.320 to prosecute

00:55:10.120 journalists.

00:55:11.240 We will go out

00:55:13.260 and find

00:55:14.040 the conspirators

00:55:15.060 not just

00:55:16.240 in government

00:55:16.960 but in the media.

00:55:18.940 We're going to

00:55:19.840 come after you

00:55:20.880 whether it's

00:55:21.980 criminally

00:55:22.480 or civilly.

00:55:23.900 Is that a correct

00:55:24.560 quotation,

00:55:25.260 Mr. Patel?

00:55:27.460 Senator,

00:55:28.120 that's a partial

00:55:28.740 quotation.

00:55:29.620 But it's correct.

00:55:31.360 In part.

00:55:33.320 Regarding

00:55:34.040 his publication

00:55:35.180 of his

00:55:36.160 enemies list,

00:55:37.200 Mr. Patel

00:55:37.900 proclaimed

00:55:38.660 the manhunt

00:55:40.480 starts

00:55:41.260 tomorrow

00:55:41.920 and reposted

00:55:45.200 a video

00:55:45.980 depicting him

00:55:47.960 taking a

00:55:49.180 chainsaw

00:55:49.940 to his

00:55:52.760 political

00:55:53.180 enemies.

00:55:54.400 Is that

00:55:55.160 you,

00:55:56.360 Kash Patel,

00:55:57.160 re-truthed,

00:55:57.880 reposting that

00:55:58.620 at the top

00:55:59.060 of that page?

00:56:01.140 Senator,

00:56:01.780 I had nothing

00:56:02.200 to do with

00:56:02.640 the creation

00:56:03.160 of that meme.

00:56:03.660 Is that you

00:56:04.380 reposting it

00:56:05.300 was my question.

00:56:06.280 And that's

00:56:06.800 me

00:56:07.220 at the top.

00:56:08.320 you said

00:56:10.520 FBI agents

00:56:11.420 were responsible

00:56:12.120 for the violence

00:56:13.000 on January 6th

00:56:14.920 and I quote

00:56:15.760 you here

00:56:16.120 beyond a

00:56:16.700 reasonable doubt.

00:56:18.060 Is that

00:56:18.740 what you said?

00:56:19.400 That's completely

00:56:20.120 incorrect and I

00:56:21.040 appreciate the

00:56:21.620 opportunity to

00:56:22.380 address that.

00:56:22.840 I'll give you

00:56:23.300 an opportunity

00:56:23.780 in writing

00:56:24.740 but this is

00:56:25.360 my time now.

00:56:26.580 Have at it.

00:56:27.400 An inspector

00:56:27.980 attorney general

00:56:28.840 investigation found

00:56:29.920 that that was

00:56:30.640 false.

00:56:31.860 And you said

00:56:32.920 we should impeach

00:56:33.660 judges who rule

00:56:34.560 against Donald

00:56:35.240 Trump who are

00:56:36.700 in your words

00:56:38.280 political terrorists.

00:56:40.940 When this nominee

00:56:41.960 tries to explain

00:56:42.820 all this away

00:56:43.480 keep one thing

00:56:44.240 in mind.

00:56:45.700 He's testified

00:56:46.280 under oath

00:56:47.620 before a

00:56:49.140 Colorado judge

00:56:50.180 who presided

00:56:51.340 over a Trump

00:56:52.200 case in which

00:56:53.280 he was a witness

00:56:54.900 and the judge

00:56:56.520 found

00:56:56.960 and I'm quoting

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00:56:58.400 was not

00:56:59.260 a credible witness.

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Bannon's War Room - January 30, 2025

Episode 4232： Tragedy Over The Potomac; Kash, Tulsi, And RFK Hearings

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