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00:00:00.000 Guard. I talked to the security guard just in there. He said he has been given specific orders

00:00:06.360 to prevent employees of USAID from entering the building today. And I just find that to be

00:00:12.060 absolutely ridiculous. This is no way to govern. This is no way to treat public servants. And this

00:00:18.320 is no way for us to conduct our foreign policy as a country. So I just had to show up today,

00:00:23.380 see it with my own eyes, the chaos of this administration and just their attacks upon

00:00:28.460 public servants in our country. Does the White House know what USAID does?

00:00:33.780 I think that there's a lot of questions, Katie. I think that, frankly, the President of the United

00:00:37.200 States has not answered about his understanding of what this $40 billion operation that effectively

00:00:43.520 works with more than 100 different organizations and more than 60 different missions globally

00:00:49.840 to work as a conduit for congressionally appropriated funds for humanitarian assistance

00:00:56.140 and local development projects. And what Donald Trump in the Oval Office just a short time ago

00:01:03.100 acknowledged to the press corps was that, in fact, he is OK with the way that Elon Musk has gone about

00:01:10.120 effectively crippling the backbone of U.S. humanitarian assistance or organization.

00:01:17.300 And not only that, but also Elon Musk's efforts within the Treasury Department to gain access through

00:01:22.760 employees of payment disbursement files. But then also when you're looking at Elon Musk and in that

00:01:31.020 space, his conversation he had in After Midnight last night, Katie, it is a suggestion that they are

00:01:35.900 willing to freeze billions of dollars in foreign assistance, but also potentially other payments.

00:01:41.380 And what we heard from the president was no suggestion that he has any interest in putting a stop

00:01:47.720 to the efforts of Elon Musk. We heard from some of those Democratic lawmakers on the literal front line

00:01:53.640 of the government offices there at USAID headquarters, which was shut down today. And staffers who have not

00:02:00.500 been fired or furloughed were told not to come to that office. And what you heard from some of those Democratic

00:02:05.780 lawmakers was the argument that Elon Musk, the billionaire, has effectively been allowed to access not only

00:02:12.780 personnel files, but also cut off congressionally approved funds through these major governmental agencies.

00:02:21.980 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:02:26.860 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:02:31.820 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a

00:02:37.100 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop

00:02:41.260 that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share

00:02:45.580 the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:53.740 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:03:00.620 this country will be saved.

00:03:03.740 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:03:07.180 It's Monday, 3 February, year of our Lord, 2025. We've got so much to go through as the deconstruction

00:03:18.220 of the administrative state and the destruction of the deep state continues unabated in days of

00:03:25.980 thunder. Michael Benz joins us. Michael, we're going to start with USAID because, and remember,

00:03:32.220 Eli Crane just sent me the video from a year ago. Murray did those all-night appropriations

00:03:37.020 fights. Eli Crane and Matt Gaetz remind me that they tried to defund USAID and they got less than

00:03:44.380 50% of the House votes, less than 50% of the House votes. This is how feckless House Republicans are.

00:03:51.900 Michael Benz, Mike Benz, is USAID just, it just funds 160 humanitarian institutions to do humanitarian

00:04:03.260 and development projects for the good people of the United States of America? Is that its task and

00:04:07.340 purpose, sir? No, it's not even allowed to do that. It's a U.S. foreign policy vehicle. You have to

00:04:13.980 understand everything USAID does by charter is dual use. Under the cover of humanitarian work,

00:04:23.180 they so-called advance U.S. national interests by accomplishing some goal in the region. Now,

00:04:30.140 they don't actually accomplish U.S. national interest in the region. What they do is they accomplish

00:04:35.100 the commercial or political goals of a very small secular elite within the United States and their

00:04:41.100 international partners. So, for example, I've published about hundreds of different USAID scandals

00:04:47.820 from them claiming to run AIDS prevention clinics in Cuba and all over South America. And it turns out

00:04:58.700 that the AIDS prevention clinics were actually covers for undercover agents to sow anti-government

00:05:08.540 dissent and to try to organize a revolution in the country. You had the case of Zunzuniyo where USAID

00:05:17.500 took humanitarian funds earmarked for Pakistan and created a fake knockoff Twitter social media site

00:05:23.980 where USAID documents explicitly stated in their own internal documents that the plan was to get 100,000

00:05:31.020 people in the country to join up to the social media service, luring them in with news feeds predominated

00:05:38.300 by sports news and hurricane updates. And then at the appropriate moment, once enough people were

00:05:43.420 onboarded to hit them with messages to overthrow their government and take to the streets in smart mobs.

00:05:49.660 You see this time and time again. You will see all over the news and all over these USAID HQ protests

00:05:58.620 today and all over X from the intelligence community and military and statecraft blob folks, you will see

00:06:05.260 them say, but USAID is funding irrigation canals. And if they are doing irrigation canal work, it is because

00:06:14.380 they are trying to control the river systems in the country in Ethiopia, or for example, when they were

00:06:19.740 irrigating the, the, uh, uh, the fields in Afghanistan. Well, guess what they were doing there. They were

00:06:25.980 growing the heroin supply as the, as their companion, the U S Institute for peace, uh, was, was lobbying the

00:06:34.380 Taliban that, uh, to keep the, the heroin supplies flowing because it would, it would be bad for Afghanistan

00:06:42.860 and the world. If they shut down the poppy crops, USAID was funding, you know, the irrigation of the, uh,

00:06:50.300 of those crops in order to keep the supply of heroin flowing. You see this time and time again,

00:06:56.620 if they are doing famine relief projects, it is to control the food supply and therefore control the

00:07:02.700 population and, and, and supplement that with sanctions work to make people angry against their

00:07:07.820 government or dependent on the U S to dole out that food. Then, you know, and take, for example, the job

00:07:14.460 fairs. I just posted this just yesterday. And I've, I've talked about this many times in the past three

00:07:19.260 years, Mark Milley and Joe Biden in 2021, in their special forces prospectus game planned, how USAID could

00:07:26.220 do job fairs in poor countries in order to get people to take to the streets and riot and go on strike from their

00:07:35.660 jobs. And, and so that it would help us military operations by having USA, give free, no show jobs

00:07:42.940 to Africans striking in race riots in Africa in order to, uh, to basically, you know, so it's a

00:07:51.020 humanitarian job fair, but no, it's actually not. It's actually serving the dual purpose of rent to

00:07:56.460 riots being organized by USAID. So USAID is just, is just a mutant baby of the CIA and the state department.

00:08:05.180 With, with a little top up support to the U S military. And I could go on and on about this,

00:08:10.460 but there's, there's a lot, there's a lot of moving pieces to this story, but I want to, I want to,

00:08:15.260 I want to make sure it's a cutout for the CIA, whatever the CIA wants to do with cover from the

00:08:21.100 state department. This is what they're doing. It's, it's these types of projects, right?

00:08:26.100 Yes. That's why you see this money laundering operation out of there. They have a bigger budget

00:08:30.940 than the CIA. The entire intelligence community combined is a 70, $72 billion budget. And as you

00:08:36.700 know, so the thing is, is you park operations out. I'll give you a great, a great quote. For example,

00:08:43.900 when USAID got busted, uh, running regime change work in South America by arguing that, uh, by using,

00:08:52.060 uh, AIDS prevention, HIV prevention clinics, the USAID internal documents said that those HIV

00:08:58.300 prevention clinics would be quote, the perfect cover because counterintelligence, those countries

00:09:03.260 would never look at an, at an AIDS prevention clinic, uh, HIV prevention clinic, uh, as, as a,

00:09:09.020 as a warehousing shop for, uh, for intelligence organizing activity. That's so what happened is,

00:09:16.060 is when the CIA got in trouble in the 1960s and seventies, they needed an, uh, an ever deeper layer

00:09:22.700 of plausible deniability for the dirty work. The CIA was only created because the state department

00:09:26.860 wanted to do the dirty work, but couldn't afford to get caught with, with us government fingerprints

00:09:31.420 on it. So they created a spy agency that, that did work claiming not to represent the us government

00:09:37.340 to do it. And then CIA started getting in trouble. And so USAID started taking over their business.

00:09:43.260 And, uh, and they do that in tandem with this group, the national endowment for democracy. They are,

00:09:47.900 you know, kissing cousins. They always move together and all things. Uh, but, but the, but we,

00:09:52.380 this is a, this is a huge, huge, huge, massive fundamental restructuring of the American empire

00:09:59.020 that we're watching play out before our eyes. But there are many ways that just like with Brexit,

00:10:03.900 where there was this big, you know, big referendum, a huge victory that Nigel Farage scored in June,

00:10:10.140 2016, but they ultimately ended up stymieing the, the, the purpose of Brexit in many respects through the

00:10:16.780 long marathon of layers of fights and implementing it afterwards. And, and assuming that we are able

00:10:23.500 actually to shut down USAID, which is powerful symbolically on its own and, and sends a very

00:10:29.260 powerful message. But in terms of how it will change things on the ground, that remains to be seen

00:10:34.060 because this, because the plan right now is to merge it into the state department. Well, guess what?

00:10:38.940 That just gives the state department a USAID herpes infection, unless the actual underlying

00:10:45.420 operations are cut. Why is it bad? Why, why is it bad to have the, your central intelligence that

00:10:53.260 you're a hegemon, you're trying to keep the post-war international rules-based order going.

00:10:59.820 You're trying to limit battlefield, uh, battlefield casualties. So the best way to do it is make sure

00:11:04.620 that everybody's on the take throughout the war. Everybody's got a little piece of the action,

00:11:08.300 brother Benz. Why is it a bad thing to have something like the USA? The sounds on the surface

00:11:13.340 of, you just saw the big crocodile tears are crying on MSNBC. It's for humanitarian projects.

00:11:19.180 It's for development projects is to help bring water to the village. And that's a pretty good cover.

00:11:25.180 Why is USA, why did we, why did we rip the mask off and say it's a CIA? And what, what is the advantage

00:11:31.260 to the American people? You mentioned that he gave the money to a same sort of folks throughout the world.

00:11:36.860 Who are those folks? And why is it advantage to the populist nationalist movement in the,

00:11:41.820 in the American working man and woman to basically rip the mask off, face what it is, and then shut it

00:11:47.820 down, sir? Well, this is a very, very complicated question. And I really hope that Trump world foreign

00:11:53.820 policy folks understand the open heart surgery they're conducting on the way our foreign policy

00:12:00.700 operates around the world. And in terms of why it's a bad thing that USA does what it does.

00:12:06.780 This is one of these questions that, you know, I've, I've known and followed this, this stuff for

00:12:11.820 many years, but I never made a crusade about taking it on until USA got in the business of censoring the

00:12:17.820 internet. And at that point in censoring Americans on, on the American internet and censoring American

00:12:23.260 social media companies as a foreign facing humanitarian, uh, NGO sponsor, uh, you know,

00:12:30.060 that everyone knows is just, it's just the CIA is plausible, the liability layer and funding conduit.

00:12:35.420 But when, when it started to be used against Americans on American soil,

00:12:39.820 that to me was the final straw that no matter how useful it may be to spend $40 billion a year bribing

00:12:48.380 warlords in Africa, bribing oligarchs in Ukraine, bribing and recruiting terrorists in Afghanistan

00:12:55.340 and Pakistan and Syria, um, you know, disguising medical supply bands, uh, you know, in Venezuela

00:13:02.780 with boxes of, of AK 47s and military supplies. The fact is, is it is no longer a foreign policy

00:13:10.380 instrument is a domestic control instrument. And that is the final straw. You can't do that to

00:13:16.620 Americans. Have, have you, do you have any evidence in your, all your research? Cause you're like the

00:13:23.420 ax in the space that it's actually been used domestically against Americans, not just for

00:13:28.300 doing warlords, stuff like that, but actually against Americans. Oh my God. Yes. The USA in,

00:13:34.460 in 2021, they made a formal policy pivot to stopping disinformation on the internet and they targeted

00:13:40.860 us technology companies. They targeted the, they targeted Facebook. They targeted Twitter 1.0. They

00:13:47.980 targeted YouTube. They targeted all of the online information space. They were working with news guard

00:13:54.300 and global disinformation index. And they were partnered with the state department's democracy

00:13:58.940 rights and labor. Uh, they have, uh, which, which is, which works with, uh, USAID's group called the

00:14:06.220 democracy rights and democracy, human rights and rule of law. I'm sorry, democracy governance and rights,

00:14:12.860 um, uh, bureau. And, and what they, what they did is under the banner of democracy promotion.

00:14:18.380 See, this is the thing. There's supposed to be a democracy promotion organizations. One of the reasons

00:14:22.300 that they are accountable to, uh, the house foreign affairs committee and Senate foreign

00:14:26.780 relations committee. They said that, that misinformation, I know you got to bounce,

00:14:31.020 but I just, I just want to hold you through a short break and for a minute or two afterwards,

00:14:34.140 I just want to make sure when we leave this today, people understand that, uh, you've made the case

00:14:40.620 of why this place is dangerous and not some humanitarian thing, giving out money to like the nuns,

00:14:45.980 uh, to, to do, to save the orphans in sub-Saharan Africa, short commercial break back with

00:14:50.940 Mike Benz in a moment. Big victory on five November. Now the work can finally start on

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00:17:18.720 Markets back up at the close for the first time all day. Ideas have consequences. Mike Benz has been on

00:17:25.440 this idea about a government, an administrative state and deep state that has been out of control.

00:17:29.840 Benz has been on this for years. So Benz, when they actually started to allocate money to domestic

00:17:36.000 programs and to all the misinformation, shutting down free speech on the internet, like against

00:17:42.720 War Room, you, everybody, that money's allocated. We had this audience sat through the appropriations,

00:17:49.120 the individual bills, appropriations, and Eli Crane and Matt Gaetz making this case,

00:17:53.360 I think back in the summer of 2024, 23 and 24 for two different authorizations bills.

00:18:01.840 That time, less than 50% of the Republicans backed them. These things didn't pass in these subcommittees.

00:18:08.560 Was anybody overseeing this? Did people in Capitol Hill know that they had started to use this to

00:18:13.040 target American citizens, sir? Well, let me clarify that because there's a distinction here,

00:18:19.440 which is that USAID does work that has dramatic impact on our domestic politics and domestic

00:18:26.960 American to American affairs, but they funnel it through international organizations that operate

00:18:31.440 on U.S. soil rather than, for the most part, directly with U.S. organizations, although they do.

00:18:36.720 For example, the USAID partnered with the American Bar Association and these types of things. But for

00:18:41.280 example, USAID gave $27 million to the fiscal sponsor of the Soros Prosecutor Control Group that,

00:18:50.400 you know, everyone here, you talk about Soros prosecutors and Soros, you know, Soros funds these

00:18:55.520 prosecutors and then Soros funded NGOs, in particular, this main one called Fair and Just Prosecutions,

00:19:03.680 this group that tells Soros prosecutors what to do. Well, that group got more from USAID than it did

00:19:09.920 from George Soros. They got 20 or fiscal sponsor, David, $27 million to the Tide Center, which also

00:19:16.400 played a major role in fomenting Black Lives Matter as, you know, one of the main parent groups of the

00:19:23.040 Black Lives Matter groups. You have to understand USAID is at the dead center. It occupies the center

00:19:29.440 space between the State Department, the Pentagon and the CIA. It's a switch player that serves as a

00:19:36.880 as a plausibly deniable assistance agency to the rogue activities of those three federal agencies. And it

00:19:43.200 represents essentially the some consensus of the foreign policy establishment, the legacy foreign policy

00:19:48.960 establishment that hated Trump with a passion, wanted to take him down because of his foreign policy views and

00:19:55.200 because of his is economic nationalism here at home. And what USAID declared doctrinally is that populism is an attack on

00:20:03.360 democracy. They say this openly in USAID meetings. They say this openly in USAID documents. I published

00:20:10.240 this a year and a half ago. The USAID disinformation primer published the first month of Biden's term in

00:20:17.200 office saying that the purpose of their disinformation programs was to eliminate populist subject matter

00:20:24.080 expertise on the Internet because populist news sites undermine USAID programming by undermining public

00:20:33.520 faith and confidence in democratic institutions. Because don't you know, USAID spends billions of

00:20:39.360 dollars to control the media every year. The you know, all the major media outlets in Ukraine are funded

00:20:45.360 by USAID by USAID, like the Kyiv Independent, all the major news outlets in in Western Hemisphere or in many

00:20:53.200 parts of Africa and Central Asia. It does what the CIA used to do. Everyone remembers Operation Mockingbird.

00:20:59.760 Well, guess what? That's just called USAID media sustainability and media assistance. OK, that's all that is.

00:21:06.320 And when populist waves swept the world within the U.S. in 2016 with Trump and with what happened all over

00:21:14.400 Europe with Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini and Nigel Farage, USAID declared censorship holy war against

00:21:22.800 every single populist group, including Bolsonaro. Steve, I'm telling you right now, if USAID did not exist,

00:21:30.160 Bolsonaro would still be the president of Brazil and and Brazil would still have a free and open

00:21:34.880 Internet. It was USAID that spent tens of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money funding the push to get

00:21:41.780 anti-misinformation bills passed in the parliament. They're funding the the legal advocates who pushed the

00:21:48.920 the censorship court there, the TSE, to to to crack down on Bolsonaro tweets and WhatsApp and Telegram messages.

00:21:57.360 They built a censorship octopus in Brazil, and it was built entirely on USAID because USAID

00:22:04.480 declared Bolsonaro a populist, Trump of the tropics and then set up this operation to control the information

00:22:10.880 ecosystem there. One of the USAID grantees even said on a public call that the purpose was to

00:22:16.080 eliminate the the international exchange of ideas between the Trump movement and the Bolsonaro movement.

00:22:22.380 That's what USAID does. They kill domestic populism because it gets in the way of their foreign policy goals.

00:22:28.720 This is nothing short of breathtaking. Before I leave in that is going to the White House.

00:22:37.680 This movement, they're they're they're up in arms on Capitol Hill. All the leftists, everybody saying Trump doesn't have the authority to do this.

00:22:44.060 He certainly doesn't have the authority to deputize Elon Musk and the Doge guys to do this.

00:22:49.180 This is statutory. It has to be taken down. Do you agree that in the appropriations bill,

00:22:54.000 we have to zero it or you think what Trump and Elon right now, the guys who are at Doge is fine.

00:22:59.120 That's enough work. They're going to take it to zero. Everybody's locked out of the building.

00:23:03.040 They're having protests all over. Is that enough?

00:23:07.340 It's going to be very, very complicated. You know, I said somewhat tongue in cheek earlier today that

00:23:12.840 one of the upshots of this reorganization is that Marco Rubio is now arguably going to be

00:23:18.540 the most powerful secretary of state in American history, because if USAID shuts down and it moves

00:23:24.600 over to to be directly under the State Department. Now, Marco Rubio will simultaneously be the head

00:23:30.440 of the State Department and USAID simply occupied simply, you know, adding beefing up state with

00:23:37.840 with USAID, which is why the dogfight, the trench warfare is going to come down to whether or not

00:23:42.480 USAID's core mission will continue under the State Department, which is going to be its own fight.

00:23:48.540 Um, you know, it may be the case that, that, uh, you know, that the real fight that we have is not

00:23:55.440 necessarily the moment of closing of USAID's building, but just like with Brexit, the real

00:24:00.760 fight comes with the implementation of the cuts and, and the, and the organizational changes, uh,

00:24:06.660 you know, once the USAID building is closed, because it could be, you know, it could even be worse than

00:24:12.600 ever if, if this is parked under state and you have, uh, you know, a Hillary Clinton style secretary of

00:24:17.920 state who now has a sort of God-like power, uh, over, over both state and USAID simultaneously.

00:24:24.420 No, we have to shut this down. There's no doubt about it, but it's going to be a process. I want

00:24:27.740 everybody in the audience to understand that we're, this is far from over, but man, what a great start

00:24:31.860 seeing those guys locked out as men and women. Benz, you're the best. Where do people go on your

00:24:36.520 social media to get you and all this amazing, and you got to get to Benz's social media because it's,

00:24:42.100 it's constantly updating its information.

00:24:43.920 Yeah. I post about a hundred times a day. It's a follow me at Mike Benz cyber on X and, uh, also,

00:24:51.540 uh, my foundation foundation for freedom online.com, uh, has blockbuster reports on all of this. We have

00:24:57.320 a huge report on USAID's role in the censorship industry that we published, uh, uh, several months

00:25:02.600 ago made possible because of, uh, internal documents obtained by, uh, by Stephen Miller's America first

00:25:09.400 legal. And, uh, if you read that document on the foundation website, uh, you will never see USAID

00:25:14.720 the same way again.

00:25:18.240 So it's ironic on the 3rd of February in the year of our Lord, 2025, we have Michael Benz here on the

00:25:23.820 war room. I remember BD called me after he left the white house and said, Hey, can I come over and

00:25:28.840 meet with you? I want to introduce you to a guy. So BD comes over with Benz and I'm sitting, they had

00:25:34.040 this idea on this information. I said, these are the two smartest guys I've ever met. This thing

00:25:38.160 unlocks so much. This is in 17 about the oligarchs, right? The oligarchs in the, in the

00:25:44.900 information platform. And here we are on Monday, 3, February BD has been named an assistant was

00:25:50.680 assistant secretary of state. Undersecretary. I think he's undersecretary or acting, acting

00:25:56.160 undersecretary, undersecretary, undersecretary of state. And he is Rick Stengel's old job.

00:26:01.120 Go ahead, sir. When we were talking about that with you, when we were talking about that with

00:26:06.260 you, we were talking about the global engagement center. This is in 2017. And we were talking about

00:26:09.720 how it all runs out of the global engagement center, which was set up by Rick Stengel, who

00:26:12.880 is the undersecretary of state for public diplomacy. And Darren just took his old job.

00:26:18.540 This is amazing. No, this is what I want to have you on today. Historic. Darren is going to the

00:26:23.760 state department, one of the most senior jobs. And as the key that picks the lock over there and Benz is

00:26:28.980 leading the fight, uh, really giving the content that Elon has been hammering through to shut down

00:26:33.820 USA, the historic day for taking down the deep state flat out. We've come a long way.

00:26:39.140 Beattie and Benz, the killer bees. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. All right. See you, Steve.

00:26:45.720 See you, man. Um, Darren Beattie, incredible. And Mike Benz, more incredible. And go to his,

00:26:52.380 go to his Twitter feed. It's unbelievable. I don't have time to play the cold open for Julie Kelly.

00:26:57.240 Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to wait and we're going to go to break and I'm going to play.

00:27:03.580 When we come back, I'm going to play cold open. Julie Kelly's with us. We also have Natalie

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00:28:14.980 break. Julie Kelly, Natalie Winters, next in the war room. It's obvious the unthinkable continues.

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00:29:30.020 action, action, action. I design each one more alarming than the next. It amounts to a disruption

00:29:36.380 on a scale that is darker and more extreme than when Donald Trump publicly promised from hundreds

00:29:42.440 of billions of dollars of tariffs that threaten to upend the global economy to the wholesale takeover

00:29:48.400 and in some cases dismantling of entire government agencies by unvetted outsiders led by Elon Musk.

00:29:55.660 But we're going to start with the war being waged by the Trump administration

00:29:58.940 against the nation's top law enforcement agency at the expense of our national security.

00:30:05.080 A possible purge by Team Trump of agents who worked on the January 6th investigation. That is

00:30:10.980 the largest investigation in FBI's history. That internal investigation coming to a head this

00:30:17.300 afternoon. A questionnaire went out asking staffers what, if any, role they played in that probe.

00:30:23.380 It was due this afternoon. The New York Times reports this, quote,

00:30:26.960 The form requires the employees to say if they collected evidence, provided support services,

00:30:32.780 interviewed witnesses, executed search warrants, or testified at trial basic activities of FBI

00:30:39.060 employees during the normal and lawful course of their duties. The number of employees involved could

00:30:45.700 be as high as 6,000, about a sixth of the FBI's entire workforce. Removing all of them at this time would

00:30:53.840 potentially be a major...

00:30:54.960 Okay, Nicole, Nicole, Nicole, Nicole Wallace, please, chill.

00:30:59.800 Baby, it's not a possible purge. It is a purge. Okay? Producers at NBC, the writer's script,

00:31:06.240 it's a purge. We admit it. Julie Kelly's been there since day one. Julie, thank you. Julie,

00:31:13.420 isn't it great on today, you got USAID being shut down. They locked out the 600 people that in the

00:31:20.740 cold protesting and you're doing a purge here at the FBI, ma'am, on exactly the topic that you told

00:31:26.360 them they should do it because this largest criminal investigation is actually an investigation done

00:31:32.480 by criminals, ma'am? What a tremendous day. Again, have to praise President Trump for putting the

00:31:40.720 right people in place to conduct these purges, whether it's USAID and, of course, commending

00:31:47.000 my friend Mike Benz because without his diligent work on this, posting all of the information on

00:31:53.940 X and Twitter, his knowledge, I'm sure, is just invaluable. So I want to give him a deserved

00:32:01.840 shout out as well. But yes, so it appears that today, by today, all of the FBI employees had

00:32:09.800 to respond to a questionnaire asking about their participation and involvement in January 6th,

00:32:16.400 the overall investigation. Now, Steve, as Chris Ray used to brag, the investigation involved all 56

00:32:24.300 FBI field offices. They all were participating in the investigations, the arrests, the pre-daunt armed

00:32:31.480 raids, the surveillance, you know, collecting information from big tech and from retailers and

00:32:37.920 from banks to track down these people who went into a government building on a Wednesday afternoon

00:32:43.520 four years ago. So the answers to that questionnaire was due today at three o'clock. And then by tomorrow,

00:32:51.180 I believe at noon, the acting FBI director, who also appears to be trying to not go along with this

00:33:01.940 questionnaire, trying to defy this order handed down by DOJ, he has to then provide the results of the

00:33:09.840 questionnaires to top DOJ officials. And then we will see what they do from there. But as Nicole Wallace said,

00:33:18.320 and other papers, newspapers have reported, it could be up to 6,000 agents, even the acting FBI

00:33:25.920 director, Brian Driscoll, admitted that he was part of J6 cases as well. So this has been a pervasive

00:33:35.140 abuse of the law of the FBI's powers. And we'll be interested to see the results of that survey and then

00:33:41.980 what the DOJ or Kash Patel does once he's confirmed what he does with that information.

00:33:52.460 Isn't the guy called the drizz, aren't they fighting this now? Should Trump just get rid of all these

00:33:58.400 guys too? I mean, isn't there some rear guard action over at the FBI to kick us on story? I heard there was

00:34:04.540 a thousand agents or something. We're going to defy Trump's efforts and defy Trump and defy the cleanup

00:34:11.260 of this mess. I don't know if you're hearing the same thing, but I've been hearing this and back

00:34:15.500 channel a lot of stuff. Should President Trump put up with this nonsense or just go in there and just

00:34:20.600 get rid of the whole, whatever's left of the seventh floor, just get rid of them. Drizz, because I hear

00:34:25.380 he's trying to be a big stud in front of the FBI guys. They're talking a lot of smack over there, ma'am.

00:34:30.420 So I think it's okay to kind of lure these officials into a trap and have them defy and be

00:34:40.120 insubordinate to higher ups who are now in charge of the DOJ and then soon FBI. So let's see Brian

00:34:48.120 Driscoll protect his agents and employees and see what happens to him from there. I don't see him

00:34:55.620 surviving, but if he defies these orders, if he is insubordinate, if he's working behind the scenes

00:35:01.320 with employees, instructing them not to fill out. And this is a pretty detailed questionnaire,

00:35:07.480 Steve. I mean, this really asks what the agent did. Did they conduct raids? Did they surveil

00:35:16.200 Americans? Were they involved in grand jury proceedings? Did they seek search warrants?

00:35:22.760 Did they testify as witnesses, government witnesses at J6 court proceedings and trials? Because of

00:35:29.060 course, there was always an FBI, at least one FBI agent on the stand during these trials. So

00:35:35.660 they really want a granular accounting for what these agents and employees did. So Brian Driscoll is

00:35:43.040 still working behind the scenes to try to thwart that inquiry. That will, I'm sure, result in his

00:35:48.660 disaster. Then you had the head of the New York FBI field office sending an email, I think it was

00:35:54.760 yesterday, talking about how he was going to dig in, that this was comparable to when he was a Marine

00:36:01.500 and he was hunkered down in a foxhole. And he is not going to give up and encouraging FBI employees to

00:36:08.580 do the same and talk about how tragic this is for, you know, an internal review as to what the FBI did in

00:36:18.480 J6 cases. So I expect he will be gone soon too. The head of the Miami field office appears to be gone.

00:36:25.640 Of course, the Washington field office gone, the Las Vegas field office, the New Orleans field office.

00:36:32.640 He has been let go as well, or told his employees, his staff that he expected to be fired and let go

00:36:41.220 as well. Not only because he was on vacation when the attack happened on New Year's Eve in New Orleans,

00:36:48.700 but he had also been at the Washington field office and had his dirty mitts all over the January 6th

00:36:56.260 investigation as well. Any new updates? We fired, what, 30 guys?

00:37:02.640 Men and women associated with graves. Any updates on DOJ, Southern District of New York, any of the field,

00:37:08.940 any of the U.S. attorneys' offices, any update on that? Because they've got to purge that whole thing too.

00:37:14.680 So Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove also sent, had a conference call with 93 U.S. attorneys last week.

00:37:24.080 Some of them have, of course, been fired or left before they were fired. Matthew Graves is one of them.

00:37:30.060 But asking for the names of line prosecutors he could send to the southern border to help enforce

00:37:36.600 immigration law. And this seems to be their approach. Those employees who necessarily are

00:37:43.280 protected or can't be fired, or you want to put them into a situation where they resign,

00:37:48.920 which we've already seen that, being sent to the southern border. Now, Steve, this could be the case

00:37:53.720 of these FBI agents as well. If they fired every single agent involved in the January 6th

00:38:00.260 cases, 6,000 or so agents, that would just be beyond a dream come true. But there's also some

00:38:08.360 speculation that they will also transfer those agents down to the southern border or other places

00:38:14.080 where they can actually fight crime, enforce immigration law, because they have domestic

00:38:19.560 terror expertise and background, because that's what they consider January 6th, an act of domestic

00:38:26.260 terror.

00:38:28.260 Yeah, I hope they draw the best slots of all those great spots down in the border in Arizona,

00:38:33.980 in the desert, in Texas, the rear Grand Valley. That's where they deserve to go.

00:38:37.780 So, Julie, amazing reporting, as always. Where do people go to stay? If people follow Ben's on

00:38:44.940 social media, and Julie, you're going to go a long way to understanding how we're taking down

00:38:48.980 the deep state. Where do folks go?

00:38:51.600 At Julie underscore Kelly 2 at Axe, and then my sub stack, Declassified with Julie Kelly.

00:38:59.280 Julie, thank you so much.

00:39:01.480 Thanks, Steve.

00:39:02.460 I'm speaking at the end of February. I haven't seen, is that the 27th or 28th? Anyway, let's get

00:39:07.700 the ad up. Tarrant County, but Jack Pasopo's going to be there. Others, Amanda Milius. So

00:39:15.880 it's going to be a wild night, I can tell you right there. I will speak at Tarrant County,

00:39:22.220 I think Republican Party. I just did it in Denton County the other day. We had over a thousand

00:39:26.100 at Denton County. I think we're expecting even a bigger crowd in Tarrant and looking forward

00:39:30.480 to it.

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00:39:55.760 open on Canada? Do we have that? Can I play that?

00:39:59.040 Do we have what now? Let's go ahead and play it. Let's play it. Bring in Natalie from the

00:40:03.960 Well, it was really striking because we all know that President Trump campaigned on this

00:40:09.200 message and this promise of lowering costs for everyday Americans. It's something that

00:40:13.300 I heard over and over again on the campaign trail from voters, whether they were voting

00:40:16.780 for President Trump, frankly, or Vice President Harris. The message was that they were very worried

00:40:22.540 about cost of living. But to hear President Trump say that there may be some pain, but that

00:40:26.860 cost of pain will all be worth it down the line, I think, was him trying to hedge and

00:40:31.400 prepare the American people for prices going up on everything from avocados coming from

00:40:35.840 Mexico, beer coming from Mexico.

00:40:37.120 They just yammer about this all day long. Prices are not going up, lady. Prices are not going

00:40:41.540 up. You don't know what you're talking about. None of you people do. It's just yammer.

00:40:44.980 Oh, prices are going up. Prices are going up. Prices are going up. Prices are not going

00:40:47.700 up. President Trump solved this. Let's go to Natalie Winters. Natalie, Mexico cratered in

00:40:54.120 24 hours. And then Justin Trudeau also cratered. The reason is, is that Mexico would not be

00:41:02.720 a country with 90 days after these tariffs were imposed, they would break apart and Canada

00:41:08.560 would go into a major, I don't know, recession or depression. Can you give us an update about

00:41:13.460 the trade wars today that didn't happen?

00:41:15.500 Well, look, Steve, if I had to count how many times I've heard the word, what avocados said

00:41:22.220 here on media row, that seems to be the, I guess it's almost as bad as what bipartisan,

00:41:28.020 comprehensive immigration reform. That seems to be the only angle of attack that what the

00:41:33.000 same press corps that I'm pretty sure for what years has never cared about American consumers,

00:41:37.760 let alone American workers. But now all of a sudden, they're really concerned about what

00:41:41.700 tariffs, because apparently it's going to hurt the bottom line for Americans at home. I'm pretty

00:41:46.420 sure they never covered inflation or anything remotely close to that for the last four years.

00:41:50.980 But this is a complete and utter victory for President Trump. I'm honored to really be standing

00:41:55.600 here on such a truly historic day, because this really shows not only Steve that America's back,

00:42:01.480 which is something that we've known just in what, two weeks, but more importantly, that we're done

00:42:06.160 negotiating from the mindset of being losers or the idea of equity that because we're an

00:42:11.620 economic hegemon and a global power that we have to act like we're an inferior country and not

00:42:16.780 throw around our economic heavyweights like we're doing right now with the tariffs. And you know

00:42:20.780 what? We got substantive and substantial wins today showing how really economic warfare can be used to

00:42:27.140 bring about wins, not just for American workers, but actually for American sovereignty, right? 10,000

00:42:32.320 Border Patrol agents coming from Mexico. But remember, Steve, Canada too announced a billion dollars.

00:42:38.340 So it wasn't less than 24 hours after President Trump met with Trudeau, or I guess then President

00:42:43.000 elect Trump. So this is just win after win. And frankly, Steve, I think it shows something that

00:42:48.900 we've hammered from the get go, which is that the framing of this is a trade war as President Trump's

00:42:53.780 trade war is victim blaming not only President Trump, but the American people. We are the victims in

00:43:00.360 this. Maybe let's call this a little bit of retribution or justice today. But for countries like China,

00:43:05.140 like Mexico, like Canada, who have exploited American workers and the American economy for

00:43:10.940 way too long. And it's nice to have a president who's actually putting American workers first and

00:43:15.340 not taking the bogus line of the Chamber of Commerce and all the talking heads that I'm not too far away

00:43:20.220 from right now. Natalie, hang on for one second, take a short break on tech confirmations when we return

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00:46:03.500 Today's a big day for you. Is it not, ma'am? It's a huge day for a myriad of reasons. I want

00:46:10.260 to start though with a little bit of a, I guess, resistance update for our audience, particularly

00:46:14.720 in the silo of what's going on at the FBI. Obviously everyone's favorite, Norm Eisen,

00:46:19.800 state democracy defenders, that's his group, um, in conjunction with sort of other people who've

00:46:25.180 been instrumental figures in basically every impeachment and whistleblower against President

00:46:29.300 Trump, that is, uh, infamous attorney Mark Zaid are now threatening to essentially sue among,

00:46:35.220 take other actions, um, against the Trump administration for daring to purge the FBI

00:46:39.780 of the rot that so desperately needs to go. Um, I think you're, like I said last week,

00:46:44.660 we're starting to see the sort of first showdown between the resistance lawfare elements and what

00:46:49.480 President Trump wants to do in terms of gutting the administrative state. And to link that to what

00:46:54.300 you're seeing go on at USAID, I think the signal, not the noise is what, you know, Elon Musk was

00:46:59.340 tweeting about USAID. It wasn't just the concept or the sort of paradigm shift that, oh, well,

00:47:04.860 our tax dollars shouldn't be going and funding ridiculous woke programs in foreign countries.

00:47:09.680 He was tweeting actually about stories that we've, I think, broke here on the war room,

00:47:13.720 um, myself over at the national pulse about the bio labs in Ukraine and COVID receive, or the Wuhan

00:47:18.560 Institute of Virology receiving upwards of $50 million from USAID to engage in risky gain of

00:47:24.820 function research. So it's sort of the dark underbelly, um, that is USAID, which I think

00:47:29.700 is the important paradigm shift that needs to be happening. But let's just take a moment, Steve,

00:47:34.000 and just celebrate truly again, a historic day, how far we have come. But most importantly,

00:47:39.440 I think today you're seeing essentially the super majority, right, that Republicans have on full

00:47:44.360 display. Because what do you have Jamie Raskin looking like an utter and complete clown standing

00:47:50.120 outside of USAID giving some weak, limp speech about how they're going to take on and tackle

00:47:56.160 Elon Musk, bro, you have no power. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure they're already writing the

00:48:01.980 impeachment papers and two years from now, they're going to focus on that. But at least for the next

00:48:06.400 two years, they have basically no way to push back with the exception of, you know, frivolous lawsuits

00:48:13.080 from groups like Norm Eisen. But I think today really shows you it's asymmetrical warfare.

00:48:18.980 And I think for so long, we've been on the opposite side of that equation. But today,

00:48:23.080 whether it's the tariffs, what's going on at the FBI, what's going on at USAID, they're in full

00:48:28.360 blown panic. And they look like petulant children because they have really no grounds for recourse.

00:48:34.020 And isn't that wonderful? I think we what call that a little something called retribution or justice.

00:48:38.680 I'll take it. Big win. Real quickly, got about a minute and a half, two minutes. Mike Davis is going

00:48:46.520 to join us here in a minute. But talk to me about talking to me about the White House perspective on

00:48:51.620 the confirmation process, ma'am. Well, I think they're extremely grateful for all the calls that

00:48:58.340 this audience has been making. I'm pretty sure they were receiving upwards of 600 calls a minute,

00:49:03.580 so much so that I believe the Senate phone call system was in meltdown and hasn't been working.

00:49:09.060 So shout out to the war room posse. On that front, I think with, you know, each respective

00:49:13.480 nominee, you know who the sort of weak points are, the Achilles heels are. But I will say, Steve,

00:49:18.820 I do think that it is interesting. And I think it goes back to something that we've talked about.

00:49:23.100 If you watch MSNBC, you know, they're always having this sort of internal struggle session

00:49:27.040 about, you know, whether or not we should take the bait on this issue or that issue.

00:49:30.840 And I think that they know the more that they sort of fan the flames of attacking these nominees,

00:49:35.920 the more cover it will give these squishy Republican senators. So it is interesting how

00:49:40.700 they're not covering it with the same level, I think, of intensity that they did Pete Hegseth,

00:49:44.960 because they learned their lesson. And most importantly, they learned that, I guess, it's

00:49:48.880 better to be, I guess, loved than feared by the war room audience. But they learned the power

00:49:53.920 and the wrath of the war room posse that we're not to be messed with.

00:49:57.300 And Natalie, social media, and how can you go, because I know you're having 50 stories

00:50:04.280 a day written about you. They're picking on you over there. We know that. But you're

00:50:08.040 tough. You're a tough kid. You're a tough kid.

00:50:12.060 Yeah, they're not going to get to me. They're jealous. And they should be, because our show

00:50:16.400 is better than theirs. Just look at the viewership. Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.

00:50:21.000 You're great. And we can see you on the Matt Gaetz show tonight. The Matt Gaetz show on

00:50:26.600 One American News. Tonight. And I just did Piers Morgan, so you can watch me debating

00:50:31.060 dwarf FAA controllers, too.

00:50:37.360 Natalie Winters. Natalie G. Winters.

00:50:38.860 Let's just say I won. We'll see you. Thank you, ma'am.

00:50:41.840 I have no doubt about that. Thank you, ma'am.

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00:52:10.700 Mike Davis is going to drill down. He's just getting back from the White House. We're going

00:52:13.780 to drill down on more on the confirmation hearing. Also, a leak coming out of the White House.

00:52:18.200 President Donald John Trump intends to shut down the Department of Education. How about

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Bannon's War Room - February 04, 2025

Episode 4242： Trump Comes Out Victorious Against Mexico And Canada Trade

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