Bannon's War Room - February 06, 2025


Episode 4248： Trump Signs EO Keeping Men Out Of Women's Sports


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Trump signs an executive order declaring that the war on women in sports is over. But what does this mean for the future of women's sports? And what does it mean for women's equality in the workplace and in the classroom?

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00:00:00.000 Athletes have been forced onto the front lines, and men claiming to be girls have stolen more
00:00:05.860 than 3,500 victories. That's a lot. And invaded more than 11,000 competitions designed for women. 1.00
00:00:13.920 Last year, a male cyclist posing as a woman competed in the 800-mile Arizona trail race,
00:00:21.040 a very big deal in cycling, and obliterated the woman's course record by nearly five and a half 0.99
00:00:28.080 hours. Sounds like a lot, doesn't it, huh? Five and a half hours. But you have to hear the
00:00:34.700 weightlifting records. You think that's bad. The weightlifting's worse. In 2023, a man in women's 1.00
00:00:42.560 powerlifting broke two world records and outlifted his closest female opponent in one event by 440
00:00:51.420 pounds. And they continue to defend themselves, Mr. Congressman. You know that, right? They
00:01:00.220 continue to defend themselves. We hope they continue onward because I don't think we can lose a race.
00:01:07.220 This was one of the big reasons that we all won, and it's one of the big reasons that we had a
00:01:11.600 record, a landslide like they haven't seen before, very often anyway. And who could forget last year's
00:01:19.800 Paris Olympics, where a male boxer stole the woman's gold medal after brutalizing his female
00:01:24.880 opponent so viciously that she had to forfeit just after 46 seconds, and she was a championship
00:01:31.040 fighter. And actually, they had two women or two people that transitioned, and both of them won gold
00:01:38.000 medals, and they won them very convincingly. But all of that ends today because with this
00:01:43.900 executive order, the war on women's sports is over. Heather Higgins, Andy Botner, Victoria Coley
00:01:55.420 from Independent Women's Forum. It's a fantastic group of people that fought very hard on this
00:02:01.020 issue. Watch what I do, and then I'm going to give you some pens, okay? Are you ready? What a nice picture
00:02:08.020 this is, huh, Governor? You ready? We'll do a good job. Wait a minute, let me press that.
00:02:17.280 I want to make this a really good signature, because this is, you know, this is a big one, right?
00:02:22.100 Oh, I think we have a 10. We have a 10.
00:02:29.100 God bless you, Mr. President.
00:02:31.100 Pretty good, huh? Okay? Now you're going to go out and win those events, right?
00:02:37.100 Nice to see you all. Nice to see you all. Great going, everybody.
00:02:44.100 Nice to see you all. Thank you, kids. Here. Take a pen. I'll give some of these out, okay?
00:02:50.100 Take a pen. Take a pen. Take a pen. Take a pen.
00:02:52.100 Thank you so much.
00:03:15.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going to
00:03:21.100 medieval on these people. Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:28.100 The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:31.100 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:03:34.100 It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:03:39.100 Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:03:46.100 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:03:50.100 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:03:57.100 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:04:00.100 It's Wednesday, 5 February, Year of Our Lord 2025.
00:04:07.100 Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.
00:04:12.100 We're going to get down. We've got a lot to go through this afternoon and early this evening.
00:04:17.100 We're going to go to the White House in a while to our own Natalie Winters.
00:04:21.100 I want to start the war on women is drawing to a close because of President Trump. 1.00
00:04:28.100 I want to bring in Carrie Sheffield, Independent Women's Forum, Independent Women's Voice.
00:04:33.100 Carrie, I think if memory serves me correctly, years ago, you're the very first person to come on War Room and highlight to our audience this situation with men playing women's sports.
00:04:46.100 I remember talking beforehand. I go, is this actually a thing? And then you shocked the MAGA movement by telling us it actually was a thing.
00:04:55.100 How big a day was this for you, ma'am?
00:04:57.100 Steve, I am not tired of winning. This was an earthquake. This was the restoration of women's rights. This was the moment where the left was exposed.
00:05:12.100 Even you heard the president in that clip you played. He said, keep doing this, please.
00:05:17.100 Please, left, keep doing this because we're going to keep winning in elections because you don't care about women. 1.00
00:05:23.100 You don't care about the bodily safety, the bodily autonomy of women. You don't care that women are beaten to pulps. 1.00
00:05:31.100 She mentioned the boxer during the Olympics. She had to forfeit after just over 40 seconds because she knew she could die or get a concussion from a man. 0.88
00:05:40.100 That is a party, the Democratic Party, the leftist Marxism. They do not care about women. That's what this is about.
00:05:48.100 And so this was a phenomenal day. And thank you, Steve, and Captain Bannon and your whole team for years for supporting us in this cause.
00:05:57.100 It was a momentous day. And I just it's it's truth wins.
00:06:03.100 Carrie, I want to go back. I want to do two things. Number one, people would think that the Democratic Party was, you know, you had these feminists that came out of the 60s and 70s. 0.83
00:06:12.100 It's always puts itself forward is that, you know, Republicans or the populist nationalists are heartless. Conservatives are heartless.
00:06:19.100 They're they're nurturing and they're forgiving and they're, you know, they're they're the easy ones are always there to have someone lean on their shoulder.
00:06:27.100 Why do you say that they're they're the ones driving the war on women? That would be that would be counterintuitive, wouldn't it? 0.99
00:06:34.100 Well, when when someone can't even define what a woman is, they're unable to define defend who that person is.
00:06:42.100 You can't define it. You can't defend it. And so the complete unmooring from reality, from biology, from truth, that's really what this is about.
00:06:52.100 It is a fundamental unmooring from the truth. And the transgender stuff is just one issue. 1.00
00:06:57.100 We see this everywhere else that, you know, darkness and disorder versus truth and order.
00:07:04.100 That's really what this is about. And that's what I love about your work, Steve, and with War Room, that you understand that this is not just a superficial political fight.
00:07:12.100 This is much deeper. This is a fight over what is right and wrong, evil and good, light and dark, truth and lies.
00:07:20.100 And what was very telling the Washington Post news alert about this. I'll read the wording here.
00:07:27.100 It says the new order threatens to deny federal funds for schools that allow transgender athletes to compete in K through 12 college and sports.
00:07:34.100 It's the latest salvo in President Donald Trump's attack on transgender rights.
00:07:39.100 Another that will ricochet through schools across the country as the president delivers on another contentious culture war promise.
00:07:47.100 My goodness, Steve, like the language here, an attack on transgender rights to completely ignore what Joe Biden and the woke left did to women's rights, women's rights who are vulnerable.
00:08:04.100 News flash, women are physically smaller. We're not as strong as men. 1.00
00:08:08.100 That's what that's supposedly what the feminist left fought for, was to acknowledge we are different from men. 1.00
00:08:15.100 That's what Title Nine was. Title Nine, which was signed by a Republican, by the way, Richard Nixon.
00:08:21.100 But it was a bipartisan bill because it was a Democrat Congress. Title Nine was under threat by Joe Biden, who wanted to completely rewrite it.
00:08:29.100 He put out ridiculous regulations toward that effect. We challenged it in the courts at IWF.
00:08:36.100 And credit to my colleague, May Melman, who wrote that executive order also that President Trump issued on day one as well.
00:08:42.100 So this is if this is the tack that the language that I just read from The Washington Post, if that's the language they want to take to say that this is an attack on transgender rights instead of the restoration of women's rights.
00:08:54.100 Steve, we're going to keep winning. So, Kerry, I want to go back from when you first started coming on the show and the guys started to have the march and Captain Bannon would go and the march was huge.
00:09:06.100 And you guys kicking up a storm. I thought certain things were being done.
00:09:10.100 I knew in the courts, but I thought even at the state level, the House was passing stuff.
00:09:15.100 I'm trying to put stuff out there. Did did none of that work?
00:09:19.100 And that's why you had to have the order the other day in the executive order today.
00:09:23.100 Did did all those things we worked at the state level where they just not powerful enough to kind of punch through this because these folks kept rolling?
00:09:33.100 And that's why you needed President Trump to sign an executive order.
00:09:36.100 Well, we took it as a full court press. We took it as our strategy was let's flood the zone.
00:09:42.100 We do state, local, federal. We do all of the above. And that's I think that's partially what's worked is because it's raised the issue.
00:09:49.100 And, yes, we won state fights. But, Steve, we didn't win state fights in every state.
00:09:54.100 We only won it in some states. I mean, our goal is to win it in every state.
00:09:58.100 But we wanted the federal protections as well because this is about federal money going to these schools.
00:10:04.100 And so whether you're talking about state or federal dollars, state or federal enforcement, we need an all of the above approach.
00:10:11.100 And again, I think one of the most powerful ads that we saw last cycle was when the Trump campaign released the ad saying Biden or I guess it was by that point, Kamala.
00:10:23.100 Kamala is for they them. Donald Trump is for you. And this is something that is it's far reaching beyond just sports.
00:10:32.100 You know, some people on the left like to say, oh, well, these are a bunch of whiny suburban rich girls crying about their lacrosse team. 0.98
00:10:38.100 No, this is far beyond just sports. We're talking also about prison.
00:10:45.100 So at Independent Women's Forum, we've put out a documentary series about prisons, women's prisons.
00:10:52.100 This is this affects not only prisons. It affects battered domestic violence shelters.
00:10:57.100 It affects, you know, anywhere where a woman's bodily safety and vulnerability is exposed to a man.
00:11:05.100 This is the new left. This is what the left wants. And it is so it is so it's the twilight zone.
00:11:13.100 This is this is like I can't believe that we're at this point.
00:11:17.100 But again, it's because our culture has fallen so far from our Judeo Christian roots that the idea that there is an objective truth has been thrown by the wayside.
00:11:27.100 And that what is it's so beautiful that President Trump is reminding us that the truth does exist.
00:11:34.100 And we're not crazy, Steve. We're not crazy. We will not be gaslit anymore.
00:11:37.100 Terry Schilling, Kerry, hang on, because I want to hold you through the break and into the next block.
00:11:47.100 Terry Schilling, I remember we first came to me about this, like with Kerry, and it was like, are you kidding me?
00:11:52.100 Is this a real thing? Go back in that time. I mean, this kind of came out of I think it came out of nowhere.
00:11:57.100 I know as we get more experts on here, the brain and shoulders other they said, no, no, no, this has been years in the building.
00:12:04.100 What building what shocks me is how the party supposedly of feminism came up and really drove this thing, sir.
00:12:14.100 Well, Steve, this is something that, you know, took a lot of work, a lot of blood, sweat and tears, a lot of getting made fun of and laughed at.
00:12:24.100 But, you know, today was a great day is a great day of victory.
00:12:28.100 The real reason why the feminists on the left have been so egregious and terrible and absent at best on this issue of gender and transgenderism is because they seek to eliminate all differences between men and women.
00:12:44.100 They want to destroy gender by using gender. Right. And that's not, you know, something I came up with.
00:12:50.100 They told us that Judith Butler has written multiple times and said in multiple interviews that on the issue of transgenderism, their goal is to use gender to destroy gender.
00:13:01.100 So what they want to do is overload the system, introduce all this stuff that doesn't make any sense, confuse children at the youngest grades.
00:13:07.100 Their goal is this like disgusting, unappealing, androgynous world where there are no more men. There are no more women. It's just androgyny and reproduction is controlled by the state because we can't handle it. 0.99
00:13:24.100 We produce too many people. We cause climate change. We create all types of social problems.
00:13:30.100 They want all of this to be controlled and mandated by the state. That is the real goal of at least the third or second wave feminists. 1.00
00:13:39.100 They want to destroy gender. They don't like that men exist. They don't like that women exist. 1.00
00:13:43.100 They want something in between to where they can control it.
00:13:46.100 And now you've got this insane gender industry now, Steve, that's mutilating adults and children. It's four and a half billion dollars right now. Most of that comes from our tax dollars, Medicaid and state funding. 1.00
00:14:01.100 It's it's forced to be covered by our health insurance premiums now. President Trump's erasing all that, though.
00:14:07.100 So I think that Trump's right. This whole gender madness is going to go go away very quickly. 0.99
00:14:12.100 He's instructed DOJ, for example, to investigate doctors and clinics who perform these surgeries on children.
00:14:18.100 It's a beautiful day in America, and it wouldn't be here without War Room and President Trump's enormous victory this past fall.
00:14:25.100 Well, it was President Trump, but it's here because of War Room Posse and Carrie Sheffield and Terry Schelling and others.
00:14:32.100 So many others. Dozens and dozens we had in the show, but the work, the labor in the in the in the vineyards.
00:14:38.100 We're going to take a short commercial break and return to this topic. Another victory today in days of thunder.
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00:16:45.100 Okay, I have Terry Schilling from American Principles Project.
00:16:51.100 And the great Carrie Sheffield from Independent Women's Forum. 0.93
00:16:56.100 Two of the leaders at the tip of the spear of getting this done.
00:17:01.100 Quite amazing.
00:17:02.100 I remember they came on the show.
00:17:03.100 It's got to be four years ago on this topic.
00:17:05.100 And people, I didn't believe it at first.
00:17:07.100 I go, come on, is this a thing?
00:17:09.100 Man, I didn't know anything about this.
00:17:11.100 As I told Terry at the time, this is not my line of country.
00:17:13.100 I told Brandon Showalter, but it was darker and more bizarre the more you get into it.
00:17:21.100 Schilling, what's exactly in the executive order?
00:17:24.100 President Trump signed this and it didn't come first day because they had been working on this one.
00:17:28.100 What is in this executive order and why is that important?
00:17:32.100 So this executive order is very similar to the anti-DEI executive orders, which is essentially saying that allowing males to compete against women by identifying that is a violation of civil rights law.
00:17:46.100 So it's changed. It's basically going back to the original definition of sex under Title IX and all of civil rights law.
00:17:53.100 So if you interpret that to mean men who claim to be women, you are now violating the law.
00:17:59.100 It's illegal.
00:18:00.100 And now you're at risk of losing federal funding for any of your education programs.
00:18:04.100 Title IX is all about educational opportunities for women. 0.65
00:18:07.100 And so it instructs DOJ and the Department of Education to interpret Title IX as only regarding biological sex and none of these made up categories in between.
00:18:21.100 So, Kerry Sheffield, what does that mean practically from what you've been focused on?
00:18:26.100 What does that mean?
00:18:27.100 How do you guys use this executive order to make sure that we get men out of women's sports? 1.00
00:18:33.100 You understand, ma'am, probably better than anyone.
00:18:36.100 They're just not going to respond.
00:18:38.100 An executive order, they're going to be, yeah, that's Trump.
00:18:40.100 That's Kerry Sheffield.
00:18:41.100 She's a radical.
00:18:42.100 Terry Schilling, we don't care about him.
00:18:44.100 What does this mean practically?
00:18:46.100 Well, in practice, I mean, yes, the left responds to raw power.
00:18:51.100 And that's what this is.
00:18:52.100 This is the power of the purse.
00:18:54.100 This is the power of denying funding by designating people who violate this executive order as a violator of civil rights.
00:19:04.100 And practically, as in that clip you played earlier, this has affected more than 11,000 competitions designed for women and 3,500 victories where men and boys stole prizes, scholarships, victories that should have gone to women and girls.
00:19:25.100 And so you're talking about tens of thousands of events already just in the last few years.
00:19:31.100 And so imagine how many generations.
00:19:33.100 We're talking generations forward of millions of women and girls as long as this is made permanent.
00:19:41.100 And the question I know we were talking earlier about this, what he signed today as an executive order, and we know those are here today, gone tomorrow.
00:19:50.100 The silver lining, though, is that President Trump also signed into law a piece of legislation, which is H.R. 28.
00:19:58.100 And that was signed into law last month.
00:20:00.100 I was there for the press conference with Speaker Mike Johnson right after the House had passed that bill.
00:20:07.100 And you know what was fascinating was that only two House Democrats passed or supported that bill.
00:20:13.100 I was shocked. I was so disappointed.
00:20:16.100 One of them was Cuellar from Texas, who is the only pro-life Democrat left in Congress.
00:20:22.100 And the fact that only two, and they were both men, that no Democrat woman stood up for women's rights in the entire United States House of Representatives is a sad commentary on the state of women's rights in this country.
00:20:41.100 Terry Schilling, what are currently the politics of this?
00:20:43.100 You guys have changed the arc of this.
00:20:45.100 President Trump has changed the arc of it.
00:20:47.100 But where do we stand right now, given there's no doubt on the cultural side, this is one of the more important of the cultural issues, because I think it woke people up to how radical these people are.
00:20:58.100 As Kerry just said, when you had the bill, only two Democrats and one, I don't think the Democrats consider Cuellar even a Democrat given a stance on immigration.
00:21:07.100 What is the politics of this right now, sir?
00:21:09.100 So now that we've won with this executive order, we've got to drive this home through the House and through the Senate.
00:21:16.100 We have to bring votes on this.
00:21:17.100 And here's where I'm concerned, Steve, is that McConnell, when he was in the Senate, he didn't want to bring up any votes that weren't going to pass.
00:21:25.100 And that is not how things should be done.
00:21:27.100 We need to hold these guys accountable, get them on the record, force every single Democrat in the Senate to vote yes or no.
00:21:34.100 Do you think that men who claim to be women should be allowed to play in girls' sports? 0.85
00:21:38.100 And C, what I'll tell you is, and you know this better than most, we're going to be spending $5 million in the Virginia governor's race this year.
00:21:45.100 We just got out of the field with two of our focus groups testing this issue in Virginia.
00:21:51.100 And what we found, this is with swing voters, what we found is that this issue isn't going away.
00:21:56.100 It's actually much more powerful and stronger than it was before the election because now it's much more real in the minds of voters.
00:22:03.100 When this issue wasn't that real and when people still dismissed it saying that this isn't happening, but it's good that it is, it wasn't as powerful, but it was still powerful.
00:22:13.100 Now that voters see that it's actually happening and President Trump has shined a spotlight on this for the whole country to see, now it's even more powerful and effective.
00:22:22.100 So we've really got to drive this home in campaigns and elections from now up until we get this law passed, because if we don't, we will lose momentum and it will run out and they'll eventually sneak this thing through.
00:22:33.100 But we've got to get votes in the Senate.
00:22:35.100 That's the next big play here.
00:22:36.100 See, we've got to hold these guys accountable.
00:22:38.100 Every Democrat, every Republican needs to tell us, do you think that men should be able to compete against girls' sports?
00:22:43.100 That's the first step.
00:22:44.100 So you're saying this is still live.
00:22:46.100 This is a live fire exercise and it's hotter than it's ever been.
00:22:51.100 It was the number one issue for swing voters.
00:22:54.100 Wow.
00:22:55.100 Give me that again.
00:22:57.100 Give me that again.
00:22:58.100 This was the number one issue.
00:23:00.100 This was the number one issue for swing voters in the election for swing voters, not talking about motivating the base, not talking about motivating the Democratic base.
00:23:07.100 This is the number one issue for people that were having a tough time to open up, tough time deciding who to vote for.
00:23:13.100 And it's a gateway issue, Steve.
00:23:14.100 You said this just a little bit ago.
00:23:16.100 This opens people's minds to seeing just how freaking crazy the Democratic Party is.
00:23:20.100 They actually think that men can become women through chemicals and surgeries.
00:23:25.100 No one in their right mind, no sane person actually believes this.
00:23:29.100 And so we've got to continue to drive the wedge.
00:23:32.100 And here's the beautiful thing, Steve.
00:23:33.100 We forced the votes on this and you're going to start to have more Democrats defecting.
00:23:38.100 The more times you force them to vote.
00:23:39.100 And you know what, Steve?
00:23:40.100 We don't stop at women's sports. 1.00
00:23:41.100 We've got to get these guys to vote on whether or not we should ban sex changes for minors.
00:23:46.100 You think women's sports is a hot issue for these people? 1.00
00:23:48.100 Just wait until they find out how many sex changes for minors they're doing in this country and that taxpayer dollars are paying for it.
00:23:54.100 Sorry, I'm outside the White House.
00:23:56.100 We just left and there's cops all over.
00:23:59.100 But yeah, this issue is hotter than it was before and it was the number one issue for swing voters.
00:24:03.100 So we've got to keep driving this.
00:24:04.100 I will say, Terry, just to reinforce what you're saying about here in Virginia, I live in Virginia.
00:24:10.100 I live in Arlington.
00:24:11.100 And there is a high school, Washington and Liberty High School, not too far from where I live.
00:24:17.100 And they just removed an individual who had a sex crime history who was claiming to be a female and was exposing himself in the girls' locker room.
00:24:30.100 So it's a shared, it's a high school pool, but it's open to the community.
00:24:33.100 They have a separate entrance for the general public.
00:24:36.100 Wow.
00:24:37.100 And so this dude was going in and exposing himself to young girls and women.
00:24:43.100 And it's been this scandal here in Arlington.
00:24:46.100 And the guy tried to claim the defense that, well, I'm, you know, I'm transgender, so I can go in here if I want to.
00:24:53.100 Well, you can't if you are a pedophile.
00:24:56.100 Basically, as I understand it, he has a criminal record for something involving underage girls.
00:25:03.100 And the same thing happened with Loudoun County where you had a father, you know, you saw that video, just angry because his daughter was assaulted by a boy wearing a skirt and allowed in the girls' bathroom.
00:25:17.100 So this is a hot issue for Virginia.
00:25:19.100 And Winsome Sears is, you know, she's been endorsed by Glenn Youngkin to be the designated candidate.
00:25:27.100 She's not shy on this issue, which is great.
00:25:33.100 Terry, you said it became real in voters' minds.
00:25:36.100 Is that because of President Trump and his McLuhan-esque understanding of mass media?
00:25:40.100 Was it Donald Trump that made this real in people's minds?
00:25:43.100 Yeah, absolutely.
00:25:45.100 And look, when a politician starts talking about an issue, they force conversations.
00:25:51.100 They force conversations not just in the media and in the press.
00:25:55.100 They force conversations at the dinner table, at the Rotary Club, at the breakfast clubs that these guys go to.
00:26:00.100 And that's been what's — that's how we — APP and myself, that's how we operate in politics.
00:26:06.100 It's not — politics isn't downstream of culture.
00:26:08.100 It's part of the culture.
00:26:09.100 And we can use this to drive uncomfortable conversations around the Democrats' insane policies.
00:26:15.100 But, yes, this issue would be dead without President Trump.
00:26:18.100 So, President Trump, I know you watch this so sometimes.
00:26:20.100 Thank you.
00:26:21.100 God bless you for saving our kids and saving our girls' sports and being a leader on this.
00:26:26.100 Schilling, where do people get you?
00:26:27.100 You're on top of this and on fire, sir.
00:26:30.100 Where do they go?
00:26:32.100 It's just americanprinciplesproject.org.
00:26:35.100 Or you can follow me across every social media platform at shilling1776.
00:26:41.100 Thank you, brother.
00:26:42.100 Carrie Sheffield, your fight continues.
00:26:44.100 Where do people go to follow you and where they get the book?
00:26:47.100 Oh, thank you, Steve.
00:26:50.100 Yeah, so we're at IWF.org, Independent Women's Forum.
00:26:53.100 And, yeah, no, I've got my book.
00:26:55.100 Thanks for sharing it.
00:26:56.100 Here it is.
00:26:57.100 And folks want to check my story out, Motorhome Prophecies.
00:27:00.100 It actually explains a big part of why I do what I do, why I'm fighting this fight, because
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00:27:11.100 And Terry touched on it a little bit on the ideological fight here, because this is part
00:27:17.100 of gender ideology.
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00:27:23.100 is part of the Marxist school that we saw over in Germany, you know, the Frankfurt School,
00:27:30.100 trying to completely obliterate what they say, you know, race or gender, any differences.
00:27:37.100 God created differences.
00:27:39.100 God created us in his image, male and female.
00:27:41.100 He created races as well.
00:27:43.100 And they want to destroy all that.
00:27:45.100 And so the book gets into my testimony of how I went from a bitter, angry agnostic to
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00:27:55.100 And so that's what I believe at a bigger level our country needs, is that we need redemption
00:28:00.100 and we need healing.
00:28:01.100 And President Trump is a great fighter for that.
00:28:05.100 Terry Sheffield, you are a warrior and a patriot.
00:28:10.100 Thank you for coming on here, ma'am, and sharing that in the war room.
00:28:13.100 Thank you, Steve.
00:28:14.100 God bless you.
00:28:15.100 Keep up that amazing fight.
00:28:17.100 Thank you, ma'am.
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00:31:36.100 I don't know what block she's going to be in, but Samantha Powers. 0.99
00:31:39.100 Samantha Powers is going to be on Rachel Maddow defending. 1.00
00:31:45.100 She's a former head of USAID, if that tells you anything.
00:31:50.100 And Natalie Winters.
00:31:52.100 Next hour in the war, we'll be going through a lot of specifics that have been put up all afternoon on MSNBC about the resistance and about their meltdown over things like USAID.
00:32:03.100 But Natalie Winters, you've been ahead of the curve from the beginning.
00:32:07.100 What do you got for us?
00:32:08.100 Well, look, I think we've been really right in terms of triaging and sort of, I think, reverse engineering the resistance's response to what is going on at USAID.
00:32:21.100 And why it's so critical, why it's such a linchpin in all of their sort of resistance 2.0 efforts.
00:32:27.100 And I will say, Steve, it's quite interesting.
00:32:29.100 Obviously, one of the, I think, most important reasons that we're here in the press briefing room is because the idea that civil society, the media, is how they're going to push back.
00:32:37.100 So we have, you know, the insight, the ability to report on basically, I guess we can watch the watchers, but all up and down media row, every legacy media outlet in the same way that you know they would be pointing to every example when they can undermine President Trump on any narrative on any issue.
00:32:52.100 It's not like they're putting a bunch of USAID contractors up or recipients of grants, you know, doing the sort of sad fear porn propaganda about how wonderful all of these USAID grants have been.
00:33:04.100 And you know why? It's because they're not wonderful. It's because they're not about, you know, helping foreign countries, which even I reject that premise.
00:33:12.100 It's about, frankly, destroying this country. And someone like Samantha Power has understood the weaponization of apparatuses like the USAID for so long, right, the weaponization against the American people, the destruction.
00:33:24.940 Frankly, you talk about de-dollarization. I think USAID is a prime example of that.
00:33:29.100 But to that point, I think this whole exercise has been really interesting because some of the staunchest defenders now of USAID, that being institutions like the Brookings Institution and basically all of the think tanks here in Washington, D.C.,
00:33:42.540 well, despite coming out with all the hit pieces, all the articles about how USAID is so critical and so important and we must defend them,
00:33:49.980 it's quite curious, Steve, because they never disclose in any of their stories that they've actually been multimillion-dollar grant recipients from USAID themselves.
00:33:58.920 It's quite interesting. Obviously, the Politico story, in addition to BBC, the New York Times, I think really is sort of a mask-off moment.
00:34:06.220 Caroline Levitt today during her press briefing saying, yeah, about that $8 million grant, that's canceled, that's done.
00:34:11.960 We love to see action being taken from that podium right then and there.
00:34:15.600 But this really shows you, and Steve, I think to sort of contextualize this, just to wrap it all up, people may recall in 2023, it was October, the Biden White House started leaking to Politico.
00:34:27.260 They were weaponizing in local media outlets saying that the way we're going to get the American people to support aid for Ukraine, despite faltering, cratering support for it, wasn't by doing audits,
00:34:37.360 wasn't by showing us where our, I guess, just $77 billion in taxpayer dollars were going, but what they were going to do was lie and deceive the American people
00:34:45.500 and say that Ukraine aid was actually really, really wonderful for the American industrial base, actually was great for American taxpayers and certainly great for military defense contractors.
00:34:55.480 That's the same exact playbook that you're seeing come from the mainstream media right now.
00:35:00.100 They don't want to audit it because they know it's a deep, dark, depraved underbelly.
00:35:04.720 All they want to do is try to euphemize and whitewash the legacy of USAID.
00:35:09.240 That's what you saw the presser going on outside the steps tomorrow.
00:35:11.880 But I will say, Steve, today there was another press gaggle of a bunch of Democratic senators outside of the Capitol, not on the steps of USAID.
00:35:19.600 And if you look at the reporting, the coverage of it, they were getting booed and heckled, shouted down.
00:35:25.200 So it's not really all that popular.
00:35:28.100 I think Doge is a pretty popular idea among the American people.
00:35:31.100 But make no mistake, Democracy Forward, these resistance groups are still suing.
00:35:36.180 There's an article from AP we can flash on screen talking about the avalanche of litigation that they're now sort of, I guess,
00:35:42.240 they're taking the flood the zone approach in their own resistance mindset.
00:35:45.740 And they're now suing every agency.
00:35:48.720 It's metastasizing just about an hour ago.
00:35:51.420 Democracy Forward, who's CEO and met with Chuck Schumer this morning to talk about how they were going to use litigation to, you know, defeat President Trump.
00:36:00.360 So that's a buried lead right there.
00:36:01.760 But they're now suing the Department of Labor, saying that, oh, you know, Doge is trying to do what they're doing there.
00:36:06.660 So it's really, I think, an interesting sort of reframe back and forth over the idea that what they're trying to do with Doge is some, like, authoritarian, as Jen Psaki says, hostile takeover of the United States.
00:36:18.120 It's not.
00:36:19.100 It's what President Trump was elected for.
00:36:21.300 And it's not just the cutesy waste, rotten abuse about the musicals.
00:36:24.860 It's about the full-blown, full-scale weaponization of government agencies to destroy this country from within.
00:36:31.440 Yeah, I want to go back to that for a second and have you explain that one more time for the audience, because there's a lot of stuff on the Internet.
00:36:38.700 And today, I think, particularly with USAID, I would strongly recommend don't go into the heading, it's too good to check.
00:36:46.080 Some of the things that are coming up are when they sound too good to check, you better check them because there's some crazy stuff coming out.
00:36:51.780 But traditionally, conservatives, Republicans, ourselves have gone, you know, they've got the drag queen story hour or they're funding, you know, a gay, you know, wicked in sub-Saharan Africa, things like that, right? 0.83
00:37:07.960 Hey, I love wicked.
00:37:10.320 You said, I know.
00:37:11.640 You're saying, I want you to make the case why that is not what we're talking about here.
00:37:16.720 The USAID is much deeper and, quite frankly, even deeper than, I think, being a CIA cutout overseas.
00:37:24.420 There's deeper stuff on the suppression of information, the suppression of conservative voices here.
00:37:30.760 Also, the funding with the NGOs for the invasion of the country.
00:37:36.240 I mean, this is an incredibly well-organized, incredibly smart people that essentially had a kitty every year of $50 billion.
00:37:43.360 And it shows you you can go a long way in destroying America, ma'am.
00:37:49.640 Look, the musicals, I think, are sort of the limited hangout version of it.
00:37:53.560 But to that point, it is curious to me that even the mainstream media is not trying to, you know, have those people, right, on their programs pumping the airwaves saying, look, what we're doing is so great.
00:38:04.000 I've yet to see a bunch of USAID contractors or grant recipients, right?
00:38:07.500 That would be interesting messaging that I would think they'd be wanting to push.
00:38:10.580 But, Steve, here's the issue.
00:38:12.220 As someone who has spent hours of my life, days of my life in the USAspending.gov database, in the Farrah filings, looking at how sort of all this funding works, the problem is systemic in the sense that all the American people get to understand about the billions, if not trillions, of taxpayer dollars that we are hemorrhaging to these foreign countries or these U.S.-based NGOs.
00:38:35.360 It's like the start date, the end date, and maybe 50-word summary, and who it's going to.
00:38:43.380 And the summary is typically something along the lines of countering disinformation.
00:38:47.940 And the group that it's going to, sometimes it's an undisclosed foreign recipient or undisclosed domestic recipient, and there's nothing we can do to understand who that money's going to.
00:38:58.540 But more precisely, and this was reporting that Raheem Kassam and I had sent over at the National Pulse years ago, we had looked up on Google Maps dozens of the addresses of the so-called fact-checking grant recipients or the misinformation grant recipients.
00:39:15.100 They're shacks on the side of the road.
00:39:17.280 They're nonexistent entities.
00:39:18.880 It is clean and simple, pure and simple money laundering.
00:39:24.160 Moreover, Steve, when you talk about the misinformation, kind of censorship industrial complex angle to it, the grants to combat misinformation, if you itemize them, which I had done, they all start, I'm talking upwards of 95% of them, post-2016.
00:39:42.080 Now, this idea that misinformation has always been an existential threat, that's not true.
00:39:45.920 The government only started responding to it after President Trump won, but more acutely and more precisely, there was a populist wave surging.
00:39:55.320 And if you look, there were grants that specifically talked about debunking and pre-bunking populist sentiment, but they've always used misinformation as a tool, right, to suppress our movement.
00:40:07.300 And when you see them funding to the tune of millions of dollars combating misinformation initiatives in Bangladesh or in Uzbekistan or in Kazakhstan or in Armenia, and the only thing you get is a 50-word synopsis that we're going to empower journalists to counter misinformation in this third-world country that I don't even think has, you know, Wi-Fi we can barely reach.
00:40:28.640 It really begs the question of what's actually going on there, and like you said, Steve, the media wants to look at this issue through the paradigm of autocratic hostile takeover of the United States foreign government.
00:40:40.240 How about the fact that it's actually just giving radical transparency to the American people?
00:40:47.060 But the issue is that radical transparency would expose the fact that USAID is, and frankly always has been, probably the agency that is most responsible for building those beautiful mansions along the Potomac, developing all of K Street, all of this town that I'm standing in right now.
00:41:05.140 Because there's no auditing going on, but it's not a mistake, it's by design, and they're melting down.
00:41:13.400 Frankly, it's probably their donors calling them saying, run to the steps of USAID because I'm about to be exposed for what I am, and that's a grifter, a liar, and a fraud, all at the expense of U.S. taxpayer dollars.
00:41:25.120 Natalie, the White House, I know they're full, they've got the no men and women's sports, he's dealing with the tariff situation, Gaza was a big thing today of talking about his idea, but the redevelopment of Gaza.
00:41:39.980 It seems to me that the White House and the comm shop has taken a real kind of hand, I know Caroline mentioned it today, but it doesn't look like they're all in on pushing this, they're letting outside groups and people that really know the math here drill down on it.
00:41:54.960 What is their strategy? Because tonight, bringing Samantha Powers back from the beach to go on Rachel Maddow and Primetime MSNBC specifically talk about this and to push it all afternoon shows you what a big pushback they're going to get.
00:42:10.040 Your thoughts?
00:42:10.740 Well, look, I would take the doge brainiacs and the twittered researchers, independent researchers over Samantha Power any day, and I think the American people would co-sign on that, that's a bet, I would definitely bet on the former.
00:42:25.360 But no, I mean, I think Elon Musk and his team of just general influencers really has been doing a wonderful job of exposing the waste, fraud and abuse and also nefarious activities that are going on at USAID.
00:42:40.480 I think the White House, when I got here, it's so busy, I will say it was really a feeling of jubilation.
00:42:45.400 I think there are so many cute young girls walking around who are just really, really excited about what President Trump had done with his executive order, bringing in a bunch of influencers to sort of cover it.
00:42:55.220 So they're obviously firing on all verticals.
00:42:57.760 And I think it's nice that, you know, even our audience, I think, is sort of chipping in to the whole investigative reporting aspect here and just exposing USAID for the fraud that it is.
00:43:06.340 Obviously, they're taking action on it, right?
00:43:09.080 She was asked about the $8 million to Politico, yes, sort of in the form of subscriptions.
00:43:13.540 But from the podium, she said, canceling that, that's done.
00:43:17.420 I'd also cross-apply that to the BBC and the New York Times.
00:43:21.100 But they're responding to the evidence that the American people are putting forward, which I think is truly revolutionary and a testament that this is the people's president, right?
00:43:31.240 We can create a whole news cycle and a whole really takeover of a just absolutely backwards government institution that's called USAID just from a couple of tweets.
00:43:42.020 Amazing.
00:43:42.660 Natalie, where do people get you on social media?
00:43:46.380 Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
00:43:48.860 Thank you for having me.
00:43:49.700 And thank you, the audience, for giving me the opportunity to always come here and do these hits from the White House.
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00:49:36.140 Steve, I couldn't have got this far without the War Room Posse
00:49:39.640 because I'd be always worried about, you know,
00:49:42.380 what's going on at MyPill with the attacks we've endured over the last four years.
00:49:47.000 It's been the most attacked company, I believe, in history.
00:49:50.400 And we're coming through.
00:49:52.240 We've gotten through.
00:49:53.740 We're not going anywhere.
00:49:54.740 We're here to help our country and my employees and all you guys.
00:50:00.320 Thank you at the War Room Posse.
00:50:02.540 And, Steve, we thank you.
00:50:03.600 You've led us through some very troubling times.
00:50:06.960 Lindell, when you see today President Trump in the Oval with the little girls
00:50:11.660 and you see him with the men and women that fought this, you know,
00:50:17.720 the transgender thing about men and women's sports and fought so hard
00:50:21.020 and were kind of looked at his outsiders four years ago when they did it.
00:50:25.100 Four years ago when we met, almost five years ago, I guess now,
00:50:30.020 in the darkest days of the Trump movement,
00:50:34.120 when the 2020 election, it was getting clearer and clearer it was going to be stolen
00:50:38.260 and that President Trump would return to Mar-a-Lago with the nation really in a crisis
00:50:43.520 and now in a constitutional crisis, he was going to be out
00:50:47.460 and they controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House.
00:50:51.320 How in those dark days did you ever in a million years envision that would be back
00:50:57.020 and in the second week of his second term he'd still be pounding, pounding, pounding every day
00:51:03.140 and signing powerful executive orders like the no men and women's sports today, sir?
00:51:09.120 Well, it's like, you know, I always had faith with my faith in God,
00:51:13.720 but I'll tell you, it's even surprised me, everybody.
00:51:16.820 I mean, this is just considered one of the biggest miracles in history,
00:51:20.820 what's going on, what went on the last four years.
00:51:23.180 And you actually needed the last four years for everybody to get their eyes opened up.
00:51:28.600 But this even surprises me, just an amazing, and I've said it way back when,
00:51:35.420 way back when I met Donald Trump in 2016, I said, everybody loves our president,
00:51:41.240 some just don't know it yet.
00:51:43.320 And I said, he's going to be the most common sense, when I met him for the first time,
00:51:47.740 problem solution and common sense solutions that manifest to help all people,
00:51:53.740 not just a party or some people.
00:51:56.480 And Steve, it's a miracle.
00:51:57.860 God put him in for such a time as this.
00:52:00.200 We're all a part of this bigger picture.
00:52:02.400 The War Room Posse, yourself, myself, and all the people out there.
00:52:06.140 This is, this is, we're in the greatest times, I've said it before, to be alive in history.
00:52:11.680 The change that we've made and that's going to be made,
00:52:14.660 and I said it before, we're going to look back and say, wow, we get to this great place,
00:52:19.480 we're going, we look back and say, everything happened, have to happen, even the bad stuff,
00:52:24.860 just the way God intended it, because you needed that to get, God uses all things for good,
00:52:30.080 to get to this great place, it's very exciting times.
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00:52:36.120 Mike Lindell, thank you so much, brother.
00:52:38.160 We'll see you tomorrow.
00:52:39.740 Thanks, Steve.
00:52:42.380 Stick around, the six o'clock hour is going to be explosive.
00:52:45.080 Todd Benzman's going to join me about Mexico.
00:52:51.460 Short commercial break, back in a moment.
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