Bannon's War Room - February 06, 2025


Episode 4249： USAID Needs To Be Purged


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00:00:00.000 All right, two more quick things, have a seat when he was praying about rolling down those mighty wires.
00:00:10.280 It is Thursday, 6th of February, the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:00:14.180 Right there, we just had coverage, continual coverage of the National Prayer Breakfast, President Trump saying a few words.
00:00:19.520 Then being prayed over at the end, now that we've got some housekeeping today on this Thursday, 6th of February,
00:00:28.700 we're going to go to Kash Patel, they're going to have the vote of Kash Patel at Judiciary at 10-15.
00:00:34.980 We're going to cut live debt with no commercial interruptions, but let's go back.
00:00:37.700 We've got so much to go through this morning.
00:00:40.420 We've got a cold open.
00:00:41.600 Let's go to the cold open, and I'll bring in my co-host today, Dave Bratt and Natalie Winters.
00:00:47.440 Let's go ahead and play the cold open.
00:00:48.860 What you're seeing now is the suit and tie version of January 6th.
00:00:53.740 Trump vandals attacking the Capitol nonviolently, attacking the Capitol with a simple defiance of the Constitution
00:01:01.320 that has put Congress in charge of taxing and spending since the beginning of this country.
00:01:06.520 Please update us on the status of your court attempt to block what's happening at the Treasury.
00:01:14.320 Well, Lawrence, thanks for having me, and we anticipate that tomorrow the court will enter an order
00:01:22.160 saying that the defendants, the Treasury Department, will not provide access to any payment record
00:01:30.040 or payment system of records maintained by or within the Treasury, with a set of exceptions
00:01:37.960 that do not apply to Elon Musk, that do not apply to the Doge, that do not apply to the White House.
00:01:44.720 And so the arguments today were the other side representing the Elon Musk side of this argument
00:01:54.020 was the Pam Bondi Justice Department, right?
00:01:57.580 That's correct, but the judge strongly encouraged and, in fact, went so far as to draft a proposed order
00:02:10.280 that would leave the status quo in place.
00:02:14.620 Lawrence, clearly everyone in the country is concerned about having access to these very sensitive payment systems.
00:02:23.720 That's why we filed this case with our wonderful partners, State Democracy Defenders Fund,
00:02:31.120 and where I'm the chair, and public citizen, and the unions, and we went to court.
00:02:37.360 We said, this cannot be.
00:02:39.960 The judge, and there actually were two hearings,
00:02:42.980 the judge suggested that that limitation, I read you,
00:02:47.620 be in an order freezing the status quo, preventing what you so eloquently articulated the concerns,
00:02:58.260 and I think that order is going to be signed by the court tomorrow.
00:03:02.020 And then we'll argue about a permanent injunction.
00:03:06.280 Mr. Musk has no place in these sensitive, confidential, very personal records at the Treasury Department.
00:03:13.480 Norm Eisen, we're lucky that you're there fighting this one.
00:03:18.900 This is really important.
00:03:21.880 Norm Eisen, we're lucky you're there.
00:03:24.380 Thursday, 6 February, Year of the Lord, 2025, there's a lot going on.
00:03:28.700 We're going to go back in a second to the Washington Hilton,
00:03:31.640 our own Brian Glenn of National Prayer Breakfast.
00:03:34.120 We're then going to cut to Kash Patel's hearing, but I want to go.
00:03:37.880 So much has happened overnight in their courts today.
00:03:40.360 This is a multi-front war already, ladies and gentlemen,
00:03:44.320 and the courts, as we said, are going to play a big deal in this.
00:03:47.640 Natalie Winters from the White House, you're at your home studio today before you go to the White House.
00:03:53.740 And the White House understands this.
00:03:56.480 They're now being referred to as Trump's vandals.
00:03:59.640 The Doge guys are Trump's vandals.
00:04:01.580 Perfectly within the law, because they're a consultant.
00:04:06.500 They're part of the U.S. Digital Service, but a consultant and advisor to OMB who's supposed to be doing this.
00:04:12.980 This is the executive branch function to go through this and look for efficiencies and effectiveness.
00:04:19.320 Tell the audience who Norm Eisen is again.
00:04:22.040 Reset this.
00:04:23.000 What they're doing.
00:04:23.640 Because he's become more and more the legal face of this resistance, and he's become a bigger and bigger player,
00:04:30.660 particularly as they try to get a TRO in federal court today to essentially try to shut down Doge's going through
00:04:37.100 and looking for efficiencies, effectiveness, and what they've done in USAID, which we'll talk about a little bit later,
00:04:43.040 is quite frankly monumental.
00:04:44.680 Ma'am.
00:04:44.960 Yes, Norm Eisen and the myriad of organizations that he both represents, serves on the board of,
00:04:52.260 or just has been instrumental in the founding of, really is the railhead, the tip of the spear when it comes to all things lawfare.
00:04:59.260 It's not just something that started last month or January 20th.
00:05:02.080 He's been a key figure in basically all of President Trump's impeachments, advocating,
00:05:07.060 even before he was sworn in the last time around, I think for 10 articles of impeachment,
00:05:11.000 he played a really, really critical role in the sort of ongoing lawfare from 2020 to 2024 against President Trump.
00:05:19.580 But I purposely left in that last part of Lawrence O'Donnell thanking Norm Eisen because I knew it would trigger the audience.
00:05:26.240 And I think that January 6th comment that he sort of leads the segment with really, I think,
00:05:32.060 puts into reference, into frame what Norm Eisen and that whole sort of color revolution,
00:05:38.040 an extraordinary apparatchik class of really what is the permanent political class here in Washington, D.C.
00:05:44.800 that doesn't like the idea that President Trump opposes a sort of foreign policy consensus.
00:05:49.860 What they're trying to do right now in terms of not just resisting, but they prefer the term opposing.
00:05:55.840 Mark Elias had sort of a notorious op-ed a few months back saying we're not the resistance anymore.
00:06:00.460 We're the opposition.
00:06:02.120 And what do I mean by that?
00:06:03.260 But framing what's going on at USAID, at DOJ, at the FBI, now it's metastasizing into the Labor Department,
00:06:10.140 as January 6th is something that this audience, I think, is acutely aware of,
00:06:14.160 which is using a so-called crisis and putting it through the lens of, you know,
00:06:18.700 democracy is under attack and using it to more broadly smear and come after MAGA and after President Trump.
00:06:25.100 And what you're seeing now is Norm Eisen having his hand through this group called the State Democracy Defenders Foundation.
00:06:32.940 And basically every lawsuit that's trying to hamstring President Trump's, again, they call it an authoritarian agenda.
00:06:39.280 I would call it promises made, promises kept.
00:06:41.560 But specifically when it comes to the vertical that is the FBI, Norm Eisen, in conjunction with Mark Zaid,
00:06:48.700 who was another attorney involved in the first impeachment of President Trump,
00:06:52.380 they put forth a complaint saying that basically President Trump's efforts to root out radical weaponized FBI agents,
00:06:58.700 well, that was political retaliation that could not stand.
00:07:02.040 Like you saw in that clip, they're now suing the Labor Department, Mark Zaid also intimately involved in that effort.
00:07:09.720 But it goes all the way to Kash Patel's confirmation, too.
00:07:13.840 The voice is that you've been hearing pushing for additional hearings, additional probing,
00:07:19.580 really additional, shall we say, struggle sessions for Kash Patel.
00:07:23.760 Well, the person behind that is none other than Norm Eisen,
00:07:26.180 who's been writing letters to senators, like I said, from that State Democracy Defenders Fund,
00:07:31.580 which has played a really interesting role, too, in securing elections.
00:07:34.720 But we can table that discussion for another time.
00:07:37.720 But this is sort of, you know, they call us conspiracy theorists, right, Steve?
00:07:42.160 And I've always pushed back on that framing of it.
00:07:44.580 They're not conspiracies.
00:07:45.760 It's just pattern recognition because it's the same people who really are just the front men for the same donors,
00:07:52.260 foundations, and philanthropic entities, NGOs, really, they're waging war on this country.
00:07:57.740 But they're the same people who were involved in the law fair against President Trump his first term,
00:08:03.240 in that sort of interregnum period, and now in the second term.
00:08:06.520 And to that point, we have a Washington Post article we can flash on screen.
00:08:09.820 They're noting the difference in the resistance tactics this time around.
00:08:13.660 It's not so much the mass mobilization protests, though we've seen a little bit of that so far.
00:08:18.280 But right now, you can see it.
00:08:19.780 It's in the court, and it's not in the streets.
00:08:22.020 So hang on for one second.
00:08:26.280 We're going to spend a good part of the show today deconstructing all this
00:08:29.560 and talking about how it's going to be a big part of the resistance for President Trump going forward.
00:08:34.940 So, Natalie, you hang right there.
00:08:36.360 Dave Bratts in studio.
00:08:37.660 We're going to get to this.
00:08:38.340 We've got lots of clips to play and, quite frankly, some shocking details and information.
00:08:43.440 Let me go to Brian Glenn, and we'll go back to the Washington Hilton, just get a wrap-up.
00:08:47.260 Brian, what exactly happened today?
00:08:48.960 We covered it earlier on Real America's Voice.
00:08:50.880 What was this, what was going on, and what was President Trump's message to the nation, sir?
00:08:58.660 Good morning, Steve.
00:08:59.820 This was the president's second stop for the day.
00:09:02.420 He stopped over the Capitol in the Rotundra, had his prayer service with members of Congress, and did it there.
00:09:08.740 This was the second stop.
00:09:10.020 Now, this is the 78th annual National Day of Prayer here at the Washington Hilton.
00:09:15.660 And my biggest takeaway, Steve, is he announced a kind of a new department that would protect Christians and any kind of anti-Christian actions,
00:09:25.940 either on the street or within our government.
00:09:30.080 And I think that was a big, big, kind of big round of applause when he announced that, because we have seen what has happened in the last four years, Steve.
00:09:39.080 He mentioned the 78-year-old grandmother that was sentenced to prison for simply praying outside an abortion clinic.
00:09:47.860 And, of course, she had a full pardon with that when President Trump took office.
00:09:52.460 But, Steve, prayer is alive in this administration, and President Trump said multiple times it's great to finally get a president back in the office,
00:10:02.860 and that would also support religious freedom, particularly prayer on behalf of Christians around the world.
00:10:10.200 So just a great day here at the Washington Hilton, and it's great to have President Trump once again at this prayer breakfast.
00:10:17.560 Because apparently President Biden didn't show up to this last time, and so he said, he opened up his remarks, Steve,
00:10:24.620 it's finally to have a president that will actually come to this prayer breakfast.
00:10:30.120 I want to thank, too, the Warren Posse.
00:10:31.840 You know, Brian, we get the Warren Posse, and, of course, all the shows at Real America's Voice.
00:10:35.660 People are up on the ramparts.
00:10:36.960 They're making calls.
00:10:37.740 They're texting.
00:10:38.840 But we don't say often enough.
00:10:41.260 We thank you for your prayers, your prayers for the nation and for the show and for all the folks here at Real America's Voice
00:10:47.040 and for the country.
00:10:48.300 Just amazing.
00:10:49.160 The power of prayer, particularly our audience.
00:10:51.780 We understand our audience is united in trying to save the country and understands, at the end of the day, this is spiritual warfare.
00:10:59.900 So I know their heads are going to be blown up later.
00:11:02.360 This is days of thunder.
00:11:03.680 Walk me through to the degree you know.
00:11:05.760 What is this about anti-Christian bias?
00:11:08.220 Is he going to make sure they're going throughout the government?
00:11:10.380 Because the administrative state is absolutely anti-Christian.
00:11:15.920 The deep state is demonic.
00:11:17.860 I mean, they go to a different level as we're deconstructing USAID, which is a $50 billion slush fund, a CIA cutout.
00:11:27.080 But as Natalie and others have shown, what it's done against the American people for the invasion of our country,
00:11:33.560 paying for it with all these NGOs.
00:11:34.860 And quite frankly, Brian, some of these NGOs are Christian.
00:11:38.280 You've got the Lutherans.
00:11:39.360 You've got the Catholic charities.
00:11:41.200 You've got all their hands in the till being funded to do, let's say, not God's work.
00:11:48.740 So what was this today about President Trump actually talking about getting rid of the anti-Christian bias in our government?
00:11:54.580 Well, Steve, he didn't go into too much detail on this, but he just teased the fact that he is announcing today that he's putting together this particular department to kind of protect Christians.
00:12:06.960 And he just mentioned, you know, people simply praying in public and protect that rights.
00:12:12.420 But he did go a little bit into the Department of Justice and making sure that we root out any anti-Christian rhetoric actions,
00:12:22.020 any type of legal actions that is imposed on Christians for just basically displaying their faith.
00:12:28.580 So I think as the days go on, Steve, we should get a little bit more details on that.
00:12:33.500 He didn't go into it too deep.
00:12:34.940 He did a touch and go on that.
00:12:37.440 But certainly we have seen how demonic this previous administration has been in terms of allowing religious freedom.
00:12:45.980 I imagine this is something that you would see in some third world country, not here in this United States.
00:12:51.660 He did say multiple times this country was founded on Judeo-Christian values, and we even have it on our currency.
00:12:59.040 In God we trust.
00:13:01.740 And he emphasized that several times here today.
00:13:04.480 And by the looks of this crowd, 2,200 people, by the way, Steve, were in this building behind me.
00:13:09.280 He did suggest, though, Steve, next year let's bring Congress in this room and make it a little bit easier for President Trump to do this National Day of Prayer.
00:13:19.480 That's a great idea.
00:13:21.080 Before I let you go, take it, it's a very enthusiastic crowd.
00:13:24.700 Seems like the energy is great, Brian.
00:13:28.460 It is.
00:13:29.260 People were enthusiastic that he was here.
00:13:31.780 Of course, you know, this is his first kind of National Day of Prayer since he took over on a second term.
00:13:36.980 It's wrapped up now, so everyone's heading out of here at this moment.
00:13:41.240 But 2,200 people in here.
00:13:43.400 It's packed.
00:13:44.180 I've never seen this particular room with this many people.
00:13:48.060 And, of course, that's coming off the packed rotundra there with Congress earlier today.
00:13:52.560 Now, he will go to the White House.
00:13:54.420 According to his schedule, he does have some more executive orders.
00:13:58.020 He's going to sign at 2 o'clock in the White House.
00:14:00.460 That is close to the press.
00:14:01.780 I won't have any access to that.
00:14:03.720 And then tomorrow, he's headed back down to probably a good rest and relaxation at Mar-a-Lago.
00:14:09.260 He is scheduled to fly out at about 5.30 p.m. here local time.
00:14:14.420 I don't know.
00:14:15.140 I think he works harder at Mar-a-Lago, maybe even the White House 24-7.
00:14:18.240 Brian Glennett, we'll see you back at the White House this afternoon.
00:14:20.840 Action, action, action.
00:14:22.120 Another day of thunder.
00:14:24.540 We'll take a short commercial break now.
00:14:26.180 We're going to return.
00:14:27.240 Cash Patel's coming up for a vote in Judiciary Committee.
00:14:29.860 Natalie Winters is here breaking down everything with USAID.
00:14:34.300 Dave Bratz in studio.
00:14:35.500 We're going to be talking.
00:14:36.120 President Trump goes a national day of prayer at the Capitol.
00:14:40.040 And then over to Washington Hilton, the national prayer breakfast.
00:14:43.200 And he's at the head of the Vandals, according to Norm Eisen and MSNBC.
00:14:50.560 Lawrence O'Donnell.
00:14:52.000 Do you agree with that?
00:14:52.840 Is President Trump head of the Vandals?
00:14:54.260 Or the Visigoths?
00:14:56.200 We'll talk about it next in the War Room.
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00:18:07.780 There really is something so horrifying about a child starving in Sudan being far more likely to starve to death
00:18:21.580 because the world's richest man is going around calling people that are administering that aid worms.
00:18:32.060 And let me explain this again for those who have ears to hear.
00:18:38.860 David Ignatius, when the United States provides aid, yes, we provide aid because some of us believe,
00:18:49.000 and I will say this on Ronald Reagan's birthday,
00:18:51.940 some of us believe that America really is, and it should be,
00:18:57.640 a city shining brightly on the hill for all the world to see.
00:19:01.960 That is one of the reasons why we do it.
00:19:05.300 The other reason goes back to what I've been saying this week,
00:19:08.400 when Harry Truman called Herbert Hoover in two political enemies, two political rivals.
00:19:14.080 But Harry Truman said, you're the person that can organize relief across Europe, across the world,
00:19:23.540 in a world that has been destroyed by World War II.
00:19:27.000 And yes, we're doing this because it's the right thing to do,
00:19:30.040 but we're also doing this because hungry mouths become communist.
00:19:36.600 Let me have it.
00:19:38.920 Hang on.
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00:19:43.240 Let's go live to Grassley and the Judiciary Committee on Cash Patel.
00:19:48.440 We'll come back, and we'll catch up with all that with Dave Brett and Natalie Winters.
00:19:52.760 Chairman Grassley, you're right.
00:19:54.400 What you said is true.
00:19:56.180 Under Chairman Graham, we tried to avoid meeting if it wasn't absolutely necessary,
00:20:03.620 and we did that on a bipartisan basis.
00:20:06.540 And I think I speak for the Democratic side.
00:20:09.040 We hope to return to that model.
00:20:10.920 This is an extraordinary nomination.
00:20:13.240 The Cash Patel nomination that leads us to want to meet today to spend a moment.
00:20:18.060 We sent a letter.
00:20:19.640 We've received similar letters from the Republicans in the past asking for another hearing on Mr. Patel.
00:20:25.480 And the obvious response from the Republican side is we've already had our hearing.
00:20:31.020 We're not going to have another one.
00:20:32.660 I'm disappointed, not surprised, but disappointed, because I think there are several things that we have to acknowledge.
00:20:39.420 Number one, this is an unusual nomination.
00:20:42.580 Unusual, and it's a 10-year nomination.
00:20:44.680 I mean, we decided 50 years ago to reform the selection of the FBI head to make sure that we took politics out of the equation.
00:20:55.500 And so we said 10 years.
00:20:57.260 That's going to transcend at least one president, maybe two, the service of an individual.
00:21:02.480 So 10 years is a pretty long time, and it, I think, merits extra consideration and review.
00:21:10.200 Secondly, the hearing of this individual raised questions that I'm sure a lot of people were surprised about.
00:21:16.340 Why did we spend so darn much time talking about a musical recording, the J6 choir?
00:21:21.600 We did, because Mr. Patel basically denied any knowledge of the creation of this musical enterprise and the people who were involved in it.
00:21:32.800 He was very proud of the musical selection, which he was playing at rallies for President Trump.
00:21:40.000 And he was very much involved in calling these folks political prisoners who had stormed the Capitol on January 6th.
00:21:48.600 And yet, when we asked him about him, he denied that he had any real knowledge of who was involved and what they were doing here.
00:21:56.380 I look at, I'm trying to find one quote.
00:21:59.640 He was on Steve Bannon's show.
00:22:03.380 Mr. Patel claimed he didn't have anything to do with the January 6th prison choir, which includes January 6th rioters who violently assaulted police officers.
00:22:13.020 Here's what he said to Steve Bannon.
00:22:14.460 Quote, we got this idea to record the January 6th prisoners who recite the national anthem every night from the D.C. prison.
00:22:22.100 Then we took that to the studio, so we mastered and digitized it.
00:22:26.100 I mean, that's a direct contradiction under oath of his involvement.
00:22:29.640 What difference does it make?
00:22:31.000 A recording.
00:22:31.880 Come on, Durbin, move on.
00:22:32.980 The recording was of political prisoners who stormed this Capitol and assaulted 140 of our best and brightest and most well-trained people that guard us every single day, the Capitol Police and their D.C. counterparts.
00:22:48.900 They are trying to, some people are trying to lionize the insidious effort by these thugs who came and stormed the Capitol and were screaming out, hang Vice President Pence.
00:23:03.400 I hope that we don't fall into this trap of trying to rewrite history as to what happened on January 6th.
00:23:10.040 That was an atrocious display of political might and at the expense of some wonderful people who guard us every single day in this Capitol.
00:23:19.080 There are some here who wouldn't, when we went through this hearing, they disparaged the very thought that these people would be pardoned if they were guilty of violence against the police.
00:23:28.400 One of my colleagues here called it absurd and hypothetical.
00:23:33.080 Well, it turned out to not be so absurd when the first day he was president and the second term, Donald Trump issued a blanket pardon for all those who had been arrested.
00:23:42.660 Mr. Patel was part of this lionization of these thugs who took over the Capitol or tried to take it over on that day.
00:23:49.540 I don't want history to be wrong or misleading about what actually happened.
00:23:55.020 Now what's happening?
00:23:55.920 Questionnaires are going out in the Department of Justice and the FBI as to whether individuals serving our country in those agencies were involved in January 6th prosecutions.
00:24:07.840 Yesterday I met an individual who wants to be the Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche.
00:24:15.400 Made a good impression.
00:24:16.720 Some of you probably met him too.
00:24:18.420 He appears to be a well-versed, well-trained attorney.
00:24:21.640 He was personal attorney to President Trump in one of his lawsuits.
00:24:27.600 Back in the day, he was working for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.
00:24:33.100 And I asked him, when you started working there, did they let you pick and choose the files you worked on?
00:24:39.120 He said, of course not.
00:24:40.240 You were assigned, particularly if you were low in seniority.
00:24:43.180 You were assigned cases.
00:24:44.220 So I said, to say that a person worked on a January 6th case, if they are new to the agency, is it possible that they were ordered to do that case?
00:24:54.720 He said, it's possible.
00:24:56.100 I said, should that be held against him?
00:24:57.900 He didn't think it should, nor does anyone else, I hope.
00:25:01.100 They did the job they were assigned to do.
00:25:03.480 And now we have this kind of survey of the Department of Justice and the FBI to determine who was involved in the January 6th prosecutions.
00:25:14.300 If this is an effort to punish them, dismiss them, or treat them poorly because they did what they were supposed to do as professionals, that's wrong.
00:25:23.240 And I look at the involvement of Kash Patel in this whole episode from start to finish.
00:25:29.200 I read his book, Start to Finish.
00:25:31.180 And I can tell you, he does not have the temperament for the job.
00:25:34.220 And if you're honest about it, you'll join me in thinking that.
00:25:37.340 He is always trying to go after those who disrespected him and wronged him politically and get even with them.
00:25:43.460 For God's sake, to give the most sweeping investigative agency in the United States and the world over to this man to settle political scores is something we're going to regret.
00:25:56.080 That's why we asked for a second hearing on this.
00:25:59.100 I hope that we don't have to do it again.
00:26:01.260 And I hope that some members on the Republican side will think twice on this issue.
00:26:08.440 Now for the business of the committee.
00:26:11.000 Listen, I'd rather do our administrative business.
00:26:21.560 Then can I speak?
00:26:23.820 I wasn't planning on anybody speaking.
00:26:27.020 I'd like to respond to what Senator Durgan said.
00:26:30.580 Okay.
00:26:31.340 In that case, I'd like to line up behind Senator Kennedy to speak myself.
00:26:36.400 Okay.
00:26:36.740 I'll call on Senator Kennedy when we get done here.
00:26:42.980 But let's make very clear.
00:26:48.200 There's plenty of time for any sort of debate you want to do a week from today right now to discuss anything you want to discuss.
00:26:59.840 This is usually a very short meeting, 17 times last year, last Congress.
00:27:10.120 We let the Democrats have not having to meet under circumstances similar to this.
00:27:18.460 So they didn't have to meet, now we're here.
00:27:23.720 So will this authorizing resolutions,
00:27:29.560 we'll adopt the resolution by voice vote.
00:27:36.440 All those in favor of adopting the committee authorizing resolutions say aye.
00:27:43.060 Aye.
00:27:43.940 Opposed say no.
00:27:45.640 Here's what's happening.
00:27:48.340 And if my producers can tell me when Klobuchar and these people.
00:27:51.740 They've called for this meeting for the Warren Posse.
00:27:54.760 Having lost Kennedy, having lost Tulsi Gabbard, those are not absolutely finalized,
00:28:03.120 but it looks like they're in the process of losing.
00:28:04.720 They lost them out of the committees of jurisdiction, the committees that the department heads in kind of a matrix.
00:28:10.440 Obviously, they report to the President of the United States directly,
00:28:12.720 but they also for kind of oversight or keeping people up to date and for appropriations report to the Senate.
00:28:21.140 And Senate and jurisdiction is also where they get the advice and consent of the Constitution for confirmation.
00:28:28.420 So Tulsi and Bobby or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are out of that.
00:28:34.340 Let's say they're going to go to the floor.
00:28:35.780 Let's say they're going to win.
00:28:37.240 Russ vote.
00:28:37.980 And as we've told you on the resistance, the Democrats are now slowing everything down.
00:28:46.500 This is why we played indivisible on Rachel Maddow the other night,
00:28:50.860 because they've taken the playbook of McConnell from 2009,
00:28:54.060 the early days of the President Obama situation,
00:28:58.320 where McConnell really grinded the Senate, tried to grind the Senate to a halt.
00:29:02.260 That's what's happening now in the U.S. Senate.
00:29:03.780 All of President Trump's nominees going forward are going to take forever.
00:29:10.000 The second and third tier, things like Monica Crowley, a protocol, all these others,
00:29:15.500 because a thousand have to be confirmed, approximately.
00:29:19.760 The Senate's going to grind.
00:29:21.540 Russ vote, they've been up all night using this 30-hour rule.
00:29:25.320 We actually have to do it.
00:29:26.660 They've been up all night in a debate over Russ vote.
00:29:32.620 We can't do it today.
00:29:33.840 We're going to do it this evening.
00:29:34.940 I mean, Senator Whitehouse of Rhode Island went after Center for Renewing America, Russ vote,
00:29:45.000 Mark Paoletta, Jeff Clark, in kind of a presentation, former presentation,
00:29:51.200 just attacking viciously.
00:29:53.180 Russ votes, I think the vote on Russ vote will be at 7 o'clock tonight.
00:30:00.820 But they're slowing everything down.
00:30:02.900 Here they want another committee meeting.
00:30:04.360 Just to bring up, you saw there, Dick Durbin is one of the members of the engine room,
00:30:08.840 tells me, now the new agent for War Room.
00:30:11.740 He goes back specifically and says,
00:30:13.280 Cash Patel's line about this, and, you know, on Steve Bannon's podcast,
00:30:16.140 he said the other.
00:30:16.760 They're going through every detail of Cash, because now they're absolutely, completely
00:30:24.140 and totally freaked out that Pam Bondi is now at the Justice Department,
00:30:27.980 is the Attorney General of the United States, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:30:32.240 is shortly to go to HHS, that Tulsi Gabbard, former congressman,
00:30:37.620 is prepared to go to DNI.
00:30:40.860 They understand they're losing the grip, and now they're going to do a rearguard action
00:30:44.620 to stop everything.
00:30:45.520 If anything happens here, Klobuchar, anybody else starts ripping on cash,
00:30:49.320 we'll cut back to it.
00:30:55.540 We were not, I should say.
00:30:58.240 We're not going to have a double standard here, and as I mentioned,
00:31:01.780 for the last few years, he's running in the public.
00:31:05.220 Okay, fine, thank you.
00:31:08.360 Tony Grassley, we're good, we're good.
00:31:12.260 Let's go to, is Dave Brett back?
00:31:14.620 Is Dave Brett back in his seat?
00:31:16.620 Let's go.
00:31:16.980 Dave, I want to talk about the National Prayer Breakfast, why it's important.
00:31:20.200 We're in a spiritual war right now, and Morning Joe is trying to take the moral high ground.
00:31:27.500 They said on MSNBC, here's a new thing, that the Doge guys, and really Russ Vought,
00:31:34.220 and OMB, and the War Room, everybody supports this, we're the Vandals or the Visigoths.
00:31:38.700 We're the Pagans coming in to sack and burn.
00:31:42.920 Why is the National Prayer Breakfast so important today?
00:31:45.660 Why is it important that Trump goes to the Capitol first for their prayer breakfast,
00:31:48.760 then goes to Hilton for the General Prayer Breakfast?
00:31:50.660 2,200 seats, sold out.
00:31:53.460 And Dave, Brad, he does something you have talked to me about for years and years and years.
00:31:58.720 Finally have something in this government that is some sort of mechanism to make sure you go throughout the government,
00:32:05.040 and the government is not attacking Christians.
00:32:06.980 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
00:32:10.720 The prayer, Jesus taught us how to pray,
00:32:13.080 thy will be done, thy kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.
00:32:17.180 And even Christians might be surprised to hear that heaven is going to be on earth with cities and countries, etc.
00:32:25.080 Great new research, heaven on earth.
00:32:28.220 And so praying and getting in touch with that Christian message is key for this country with this revival.
00:32:34.520 It's a bit ironic that Pastor Joe, and I went to seminary 30 years ago and worked in the church a little bit,
00:32:40.220 and he's trying to quote scripture for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.
00:32:44.940 Oh, my word.
00:32:45.760 I think we're coming out of Plato's cave, this sunlight that is reaching all of us.
00:32:51.940 The Christians are waking up, right?
00:32:53.480 It's always been Minnesota nice, but we are seeing very clearly now what is happening.
00:32:59.580 Thank God for this providential presidency of President Trump and the light he's shining on, darkness.
00:33:08.260 And irony of ironies is he has David Ignatius with him the day after CIA, USAID stuff breaks.
00:33:17.400 It's a bit hard to swallow that one.
00:33:19.800 And then on top of it, he mentioned South Sudan.
00:33:22.080 I work with South Sudan.
00:33:23.100 They're still at $500 per capita, income per capita per year in South Sudan.
00:33:28.280 So I'm glad he's bringing this up.
00:33:30.020 I've never heard him bring it up before.
00:33:32.340 So that's the problem.
00:33:33.500 I worked at the World Bank 30 years ago as well.
00:33:36.320 And the World Bank and the IMF and the USAID, they used to have great economists and diplomats and public policy figures
00:33:43.900 who cared coming out of the World War II, right?
00:33:47.080 The Bretton Woods liberal world order.
00:33:48.740 That's it.
00:33:49.940 Unfortunately, now they've turned into crooks.
00:33:52.560 And Samantha Powers was on last night with Rachel Maddow talking about the great peanut paste coming out of Georgia that they send to the poor kids.
00:34:01.160 Hey, Dave, Dave, hang on one second.
00:34:05.340 I want to go back.
00:34:06.700 If I can draw that adverse interest about what is behind a Fifth Amendment assertion, then, damn,
00:34:15.000 this committee ought to be able to draw the same adverse interest or have that, sorry, adverse inference, or have that adverse inference
00:34:26.660 this individual actually testify about it.
00:34:32.260 If we want to do this in closed session, if we want to do this with some safeguards, all of that is fine.
00:34:39.180 But you spoke very eloquently at the beginning of this, Mr. Chairman, about the importance of precedent.
00:34:45.220 And I just want to mark right now that this is a first-time precedent in which a nominee for a senior law enforcement position in the United States of America
00:34:57.640 has asserted a Fifth Amendment privilege about his own conduct and has testified in front of a grand jury
00:35:05.820 and the committee is being denied access either to the Gravam Fifth Amendment assertion or precedent.
00:35:15.740 And I'll ask the committee that we sent be put into the record.
00:35:20.120 Without objection, we'll be meetings adjourned.
00:35:25.780 Okay.
00:35:27.060 Let me have it.
00:35:29.900 Okay.
00:35:30.580 They're playing games here with cash and about the grand jury, I think, for J6, all of it.
00:35:39.700 Bottom line, they're going to try to chop block everything President Trump's doing now.
00:35:45.020 We've forecasted this, and now it's happening, either in federal courts, state courts, on Capitol Hill.
00:35:52.720 This is going to be a tough slog.
00:35:55.020 And this is why we need to get on the point of attack and know how we push certain things through.
00:35:59.180 The number today for the Senate, 202-224-3121.
00:36:04.280 Also, get up on Bill Blaster.
00:36:05.600 Also, if you're part of Article 3 and using that device, do that.
00:36:08.680 But we need a full-on reminder to senators that Kash Patel is President Trump to be the head of the FBI.
00:36:17.660 You might throw in there, too, the Russ votes.
00:36:19.280 Let me bring in Natalie.
00:36:23.460 I think we have breaking news on some of the things we're covering.
00:36:28.700 Natalie, I think that the visigoths and the vandalism have slowed down by a federal court.
00:36:34.500 Is that correct, ma'am?
00:36:35.320 Yeah, don't say that we're ahead of the curve, but it's just breaking now that that lawsuit that Norm Eisen was talking about last night on MSNBC that they have now blocked.
00:36:46.340 They're taking a victory lap, Elon Musk and President Trump from accessing the Treasury systems.
00:36:51.760 There was sort of a meltdown that they were, I don't know, trying to get that data to do nefarious activities.
00:36:57.060 They were suing or representing the Alliance for Retired Americans, suing Scott Besson and the Treasury Department.
00:37:04.600 In whole, like I said, this is breaking.
00:37:06.360 They have a hearing later today, I believe around 3 p.m., that's sort of this same tactic and approach, but going over to the FBI.
00:37:14.720 And like I said, they're also now bringing a similar type of lawsuit against labor because, I guess, Elon Musk and the Doge team had started interacting and emailing some people over there.
00:37:25.060 So I would say this is certainly sort of their battle plan, right, that they're now trying to replicate.
00:37:30.360 I would probably use the word metastasize across various federal agencies, but temporarily it is a win for them.
00:37:35.960 So the news is they went in for a temporary restraining order.
00:37:40.240 They at least got it until the hearing.
00:37:42.300 I want to be specific.
00:37:43.800 Elon Musk and the work they're doing, because Scott Besson, I believe, put out today that the lawyers at the Treasury Department were saying,
00:37:52.280 hey, these guys aren't really getting near any payment systems.
00:37:54.980 We're on top of this.
00:37:56.160 We understand what the statutes are.
00:37:58.160 That clearly wasn't good enough.
00:37:59.640 So right now, Elon Musk and his Doge team are to stop all work, at least temporarily.
00:38:06.280 There's a hearing this afternoon.
00:38:08.120 We see where it goes from there.
00:38:09.640 But you get these left-wing D.C. judges, and they can do a lot of damage, and they're going to do a lot of damage.
00:38:16.840 And this is a forecast.
00:38:18.060 This is basically Eisen's strategy, correct?
00:38:21.620 Yeah, I'll read the order.
00:38:23.800 Like you said, it's coming out of the district court here in D.C.
00:38:26.480 The defendants will not provide access to any payment record or payment system of records maintained by or within the Bureau of the Fiscal Service,
00:38:33.380 except that the defendants may provide access to any of the following people.
00:38:36.680 And it goes on to list about two or three people.
00:38:40.240 But, yeah, like you said, this is just breaking.
00:38:42.440 But the buried lead, I think, from the cold open that we had, Norm Eisen said, yeah, the first victory we won is the temporary, right, the TRO.
00:38:51.940 But now they're going for essentially a permanent injunction.
00:38:55.060 But like I said, this is not just an isolated incident limited to Treasury.
00:38:59.200 They want to replicate it across the various agencies.
00:39:03.360 Okay, hang on for one second.
00:39:04.580 Let me go back to Dave Brett.
00:39:05.720 So, Dave, National Day of Prayer, why is it important, and particularly the morning Joe crowd in the left,
00:39:11.700 they're trying to take the moral high ground, that they are defenders, that they're on the side of the angels,
00:39:18.860 and they're trying to protect this pristine governmental apparatus from the pagans, sir?
00:39:28.260 Yeah, well, 30 or 40 years ago, you know, I taught with liberals, and I'd argue with 100 liberals at lunch every day.
00:39:34.100 And I used to like the liberals.
00:39:35.760 They were fun to be with.
00:39:37.200 They cared about the poor and human rights.
00:39:39.120 They wanted to end war.
00:39:40.840 They're always wrong about economics and business, but they're fun.
00:39:44.300 They're fun, nice people that smiled.
00:39:46.180 By contrast, Samantha Powers last night, you know, part of the morning Joe Mika crowd, they're not liberals anymore.
00:39:53.840 They don't smile.
00:39:54.780 Whenever you see a supposed liberal that never smiles, she just sat there glum, arrogant.
00:39:59.660 But with this concern, I can't even, us Presbyterians, we have a hard time emoting and showing that much feeling.
00:40:08.100 But she just feels for the poor.
00:40:11.100 And so she's talking about, oh, my word, all these people that are going to be in Africa,
00:40:14.420 they're not going to get their protein paste from peanuts from Georgia.
00:40:18.860 I mean, she doesn't strike me as a Georgia bulldog type in the first place.
00:40:22.980 But, you know, she's appealing to the South and the Christian Bible Belt there.
00:40:26.580 So that's nice.
00:40:27.920 And Rachel Maddow sitting there looking with a tragic concern about all this.
00:40:32.040 The problem is you just got caught, right?
00:40:34.880 You got caught stealing from the collection plate, basically, right?
00:40:38.560 The holy of the holies for the liberals is taking care of the poor.
00:40:41.620 So she's referring to USAID and she's the head of USAID and all the great work she did for the poor.
00:40:47.700 The reason the poor are going to get hurt is because of your corruption, right?
00:40:52.900 The politicos, all the news organizations, Mike Benz covered all that.
00:40:57.140 Natalie's been on that forever covering all these organizations and news that are heisting money.
00:41:01.860 Bill Kristol came out in the news yesterday, I think, buried four dimensions down, right?
00:41:08.600 Natalie and her reporting and Mike, they have to go report because one organization gets a huge foundation,
00:41:14.360 then a foundation, then a foundation.
00:41:15.580 Then there's Bill Kristol way down at the bottom getting money from USAID very indirectly, all hidden, all cloaked, all stolen from the American taxpayer.
00:41:26.380 So it's nice that Joe mentions seeing the light, God's light, God's justice is coming on down across the board.
00:41:33.740 Now they're going to start playing prevent defense like Natalie just reported in real time, which is just a treat to hear that reporting in real time.
00:41:42.380 But all of this just harkens right back to the Christian prayer breakfast this morning, right?
00:41:48.160 This country, everything we believe in is within those lines.
00:41:51.620 There is no alternative narrative.
00:41:53.400 Jordan Peterson has been great on the narrative, right?
00:41:56.100 There is only one narrative that's true, and it's the narrative of the Judeo-Christian West and the Christian prayer breakfast.
00:42:03.860 The concepts of justice we have, the moral language we have, economics, human rights language came only out of the Judeo-Christian West.
00:42:12.820 Let me repeat that to my liberal friends.
00:42:14.920 Human rights language came only, solely, uniquely out of the Judeo-Christian West.
00:42:21.640 And so did private property rights, capitalism, free markets.
00:42:27.240 And look at the language even the left and the Marxists in mourning Joe uses to make their arguments while they're stealing from the collection plate.
00:42:36.640 So I just want to give a great shout out to President Trump for being at the prayer breakfast.
00:42:41.480 I think his life was changed.
00:42:44.300 That bullet, he has messaged and said, I'm here for a reason.
00:42:49.980 I'm here for a purpose.
00:42:51.840 That purpose comes straight out of one tradition that I know of, right?
00:42:56.440 And the image of God, the imago dei, the idea that we're all created in the image of God.
00:43:03.040 That's why everyone on this planet is worthy of concern and dignity.
00:43:08.100 I never hear the left mention any basis for any of this stuff.
00:43:11.300 Their dirty deeds are coming out right now in space, all over, just all over the place.
00:43:20.960 And so thanks to Natalie for the great reporting.
00:43:23.940 And Steve, you're to be giving great credit for covering all this.
00:43:28.460 One other note also, all the oligarchs were there to cover for the last few years too.
00:43:33.040 All of a sudden, there's talk about oligarchs.
00:43:36.280 They were all on the left.
00:43:37.640 Now they're all coming over this way because they're scared of what they did in prior years.
00:43:41.900 And they're looking for a little refuge.
00:43:43.640 And so we'll see how all that works out.
00:43:45.820 But the left has been cloaking and covering for the oligarchs and theft and the grifters.
00:43:51.140 And it's all coming home right now.
00:43:53.160 This is what I was saying in the New York Times interview.
00:43:59.060 In 2008, with the financial crash, they bailed out.
00:44:03.400 They bailed out.
00:44:04.920 The established order bailed themselves out off of your tax money.
00:44:08.080 The little guy didn't get a bailout.
00:44:10.300 But the big guy's got a bailout.
00:44:11.740 Then they cut a deal with these guys in Silicon Valley to basically make them oligarchs
00:44:16.420 and allow it to be an apartheid state.
00:44:20.820 Now you're seeing the oligarchs have flipped and have come our way.
00:44:26.980 Right.
00:44:27.780 And now you're seeing in USAID, this is why it's so important to follow this story to where it concludes.
00:44:33.400 You see, they're paying for media.
00:44:35.780 They're giving Politico $8 million.
00:44:38.960 Jim Hoff's got a story up of $268 million that's gone to media over a number of years.
00:44:43.820 We're going to get into that.
00:44:44.600 You've got the Stanford Observatory that Natalie's going to talk about that attacked us for years.
00:44:50.040 Turns out that's underwritten by him.
00:44:51.920 And this is what the oligarchs are afraid of.
00:44:53.660 People are afraid of what Musk and Doge is doing coupled with vote at OMB.
00:44:59.060 That's why last night for 24 hours, and think of how many times you've seen Russ vote on the show.
00:45:04.520 They went after CRA and Russ vote, and they said many times that Russ vote's the most dangerous man in America.
00:45:11.080 Now why is that?
00:45:12.120 Because Russ vote with Elon Musk can get under the hood and expose all this.
00:45:16.460 And this is what they're absolutely petrified about.
00:45:19.380 That's why they're all circling the wagon.
00:45:21.220 When Samantha Powers gets a big opening slug of time on Rachel Maddow, that's their biggest show.
00:45:28.580 And the reason is that they have to have some protective cover right now because they understand bad stuff's coming.
00:45:33.700 Dave, you just hang on.
00:45:34.560 You're going to be with us for the morning.
00:45:35.800 And Senator Schumer.
00:45:36.960 Hang on a second.
00:45:37.600 We're going to take a...
00:45:38.780 Yep, yep.
00:45:39.240 Just hang on for a second.
00:45:44.200 We're going to go to Natalie when we get back.
00:45:45.820 She's got to take off and get up to the White House.
00:45:48.380 Birch gold.
00:45:49.200 I want to make sure gold's up at another near all-time high today, but that's not the point.
00:45:54.560 The point is, why is gold a hedge against times of financial turbulence?
00:46:00.180 You're going to have financial turbulence.
00:46:01.620 We're going to have a lot more of it.
00:46:02.580 Why is that?
00:46:03.480 We have two big events that we've talked about now.
00:46:06.300 I gave a speech in Pinehurst, North Carolina, over a year ago.
00:46:12.440 And I said, in January and February of 2025, you're going to have the convergence of massive spending cuts coupled with deportations, mass deportations and mass spending cuts.
00:46:25.740 And it's going to lead to some chaos because the system has to be purged of these problems.
00:46:31.520 You have to take it head on.
00:46:32.620 That's turbulence.
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00:48:04.260 And cheer as Musk dismantles U.S. aid agency.
00:48:08.760 Leaders in Russia, Hungary, and El Salvador welcome the Trump administration's assault on USAID, which many authoritarians have seen as a threat.
00:48:17.420 But we've also, of course, seen the Kremlin cheering Elon Musk at destroying this agency.
00:48:23.780 Why do authoritarian leaders hate U.S. aid so much?
00:48:29.360 Well, I think for a couple of reasons.
00:48:31.820 They don't like democracy.
00:48:34.020 They want the United States ultimately to fail and our model to fail.
00:48:37.860 And they recognize something that clearly some of the U.S. don't yet recognize, which is how vital U.S. aid is to advancing U.S. interests.
00:48:48.180 And American strength resides in the goodwill we buy, but also our security resides in our ability to squash that Ebola outbreak in Uganda,
00:48:58.520 to make sure that those flights that come from Kampala don't contain people with Ebola who bring that disease elsewhere.
00:49:06.780 So they root against America.
00:49:08.340 They root against democracy.
00:49:10.000 Therefore, they root against U.S. aid and are thrilled that it's the United States government itself that is taking this agency off the field.
00:49:18.160 But the other reason they're cheering is that U.S. aid does really important democracy work, really important anti-corruption work,
00:49:26.360 supporting independent journalists, training them to make sure that they can go out and about and cast sunlight on what is going on in those countries.
00:49:35.900 So a lot of the elections, for example, that Maduro stole or that Putin rigged, the documentation of that happens because brave Venezuelans or Russians are out there willing to document that.
00:49:48.860 And some of that training over the years has come from the United States and specifically from U.S. aid.
00:49:55.980 So democracy programming is a small part of the overall enterprise of development and humanitarian response,
00:50:03.180 but it's one that definitely gets under the skin of the dictator.
00:50:05.900 So there is a lot of misinformation.
00:50:09.860 It's all misinformation about what USA does, about the lion's share of the investments that we make overseas, about who we're helping.
00:50:19.300 Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation, lady.
00:50:22.720 We're just looking at the numbers.
00:50:25.040 By our own, the goodwill we can buy, independent journalism, keeping democracy alive, Natalie Winters.
00:50:33.260 Samantha Powers is the gift that keeps on giving, is she not, ma'am?
00:50:36.600 Well, I think they've been giving a little too much to foreign countries that hate us, and they've been, I think, enriching themselves off of that giving.
00:50:45.280 I have to say, democracy work has to be just the nicest euphemism I've ever heard for regime change and color revolution in favor of the deep state,
00:50:54.540 the ruling regime back here at home in the United States of America.
00:50:57.920 And by the way, just a second, I'm so glad that we can now say elections have been stolen and rigged, and I'm so glad that we're funding journalists to expose that fraud.
00:51:07.300 I guess you can't do it here in the United States, but you can do it in every other foreign country.
00:51:11.940 But I want to link this back to Norm Eisen, because this actually really gets to the heart of something we were talking about two days ago, Steve,
00:51:18.820 which is that Democracy Playbook 2025, the third edition that they put out just three days before President Trump was sworn in.
00:51:25.720 Sort of the idea that I think undergirds most of the resistance, which is that they have to frame President Trump as an authoritarian dictator,
00:51:32.760 as an autocrat, as part of this democratic backsliding, right, democracy is in danger,
00:51:37.780 because it therefore then justifies their sort of outside of the system change, frankly, the revolution,
00:51:43.260 the color revolution, that they want to wage against democratically elected politicians like they've done internationally.
00:51:49.080 That was what this strategy was originally developed for.
00:51:51.780 And the long-winded quote that I read, where they talk about the way that they will push back against President Trump,
00:51:57.540 is quite literally by saying that they will not only collaborate with international entities,
00:52:02.700 but more precisely, that they were looking to USAID, specifically a program called the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project,
00:52:10.900 to be responsible for sort of bankrolling the slush fund that is, they refer to as independent media, right, like a watchdog.
00:52:18.460 But this is where this story gets even more interesting and dovetails with some wonderful reporting from Michael Schellenberger today,
00:52:23.700 which is that people may recall from the first impeachment, like I said, it's always pattern recognition,
00:52:29.100 that the CIA analyst, a.k.a. Whistleblower, who was sort of the ground zero for that first impeachment inquiry over the Zelensky phone call,
00:52:37.400 well, that was someone whose source was actually that very same program, that Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project.
00:52:44.840 In other words, the USAID was bankrolling the dossier, much like the Steele dossier, the whole Russiagate stuff,
00:52:51.080 that led to the first impeachment of President Trump.
00:52:53.900 And here's the issue, right, OCCRP, this entity, is funded over half, I believe, by USAID.
00:53:01.460 The rest of it's basically other U.S. government agencies.
00:53:04.700 But here's where it gets really dark.
00:53:07.220 Because right now, Ukraine, there's reporting nine out of ten media outlets in Ukraine are funded by USAID.
00:53:17.060 Otherwise, they would not exist. That's a Ukraine foreign minister's own words, not mine.
00:53:22.300 Norm Eisen has been screaming in the Brookings Institution, in the mainstream media, there's a piece we can put on screen,
00:53:28.060 quote, investigative journalism is essential for Ukraine reconstruction and anti-corruption.
00:53:32.360 They have used the weaponization of journalism through USAID and all of these foreign countries
00:53:38.680 not to expose or dox autocratic leaders, but to defend themselves and be the Praetorian Guard
00:53:46.320 for the corrupt activities that they've been engaging in.
00:53:49.260 Because you know why, Steve, USAID wants to be funding the journalists on the ground in Ukraine?
00:53:54.160 Because they want the concept of controlled opposition.
00:53:59.440 They don't want the audits.
00:54:01.020 They don't want actual reporters who are going to be digging in to the what?
00:54:04.340 I guess it's now just $77 billion, but what was nearly $200 billion in aid.
00:54:09.100 They want to be controlling the journalists, controlling the messaging.
00:54:13.340 And USAID has been the platform through which they've done that,
00:54:16.400 just like they tried to control President Trump with the first impeachment.
00:54:19.020 But now they know Ukraine audits are probably coming, that gravy train's ending.
00:54:23.420 So they are in full-blown meltdown and panic because they know that they're not going to
00:54:27.900 be able to control the narrative.
00:54:31.100 Hey, Natalie, I tell you, I've got to call an audible here.
00:54:34.900 You're going to arrive a little late to the White House because I've got to hold you for the A block.
00:54:39.280 I want to play Schellenbergers.
00:54:40.460 I want to tie this together, and I want people to understand it goes all the way back to Ukraine,
00:54:45.000 to Zelensky, to corruption, to Biden, to the 2019 impeachment.
00:54:50.220 And I want you to expound upon, when we come back, your concept of embeds.
00:54:58.020 This is what this fight is coming down to.
00:54:59.940 This is why they don't want Doge inside.
00:55:01.540 They don't want Doge inside talking to people.
00:55:04.280 They want the 600 that are blocked outside of USAID in because this is full-on war.
00:55:10.120 However, this is a war of President Trump and his movement against the administrative state
00:55:15.840 and the deep state.
00:55:16.960 The stakes could not be higher, folks.
00:55:19.080 It's going to be fought on many battlefields, inside the bureaucracy itself, in the narrative
00:55:23.840 on media, in the courts, in the streets, all of it.
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