Bannon's War Room - February 07, 2025


Episode 4251: The War On Christians Is Over Under The Trump Administration


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

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167.31816

Word Count

9,431

Sentence Count

739

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 To understand the first few weeks of the second Trump administration, go back and listen to
00:00:04.600 what Steve Bannon told PBS's Frontline in 2019.
00:00:08.300 The opposition party is the media.
00:00:10.440 And the media can only, because they're dumb and they're lazy, they can only focus on one
00:00:15.100 thing at a time.
00:00:16.180 All we have to do is flood the zone.
00:00:18.460 Every day we hit them with three things, they'll bite on one, and we'll get all of our stuff
00:00:22.920 done.
00:00:23.920 Bang, bang, bang.
00:00:24.920 These guys will never be able to recover.
00:00:27.200 But we've got to start with muzzle velocity.
00:00:29.580 So it's got to start, it's got a hammer, it's got muzzle velocity.
00:00:34.060 Muzzle velocity.
00:00:35.060 Bannon's insight there is real.
00:00:37.700 Focus is a fundamental substance of democracy.
00:00:40.760 It is particularly the substance of opposition.
00:00:44.160 People largely learn of what the government is doing through the media.
00:00:47.020 So if you overwhelm the media.
00:00:48.700 A record-setting number of executive orders.
00:00:52.200 Everybody pardons.
00:00:53.200 Violence, non-violence.
00:00:54.520 Including assaulting police officers.
00:00:56.900 Birthright citizenship.
00:00:57.900 We live in unprecedented times right now.
00:01:00.780 If you keep it moving from one thing to the next.
00:01:04.380 So far so good.
00:01:05.780 Is this legal?
00:01:07.740 If you give it too many places it needs to look.
00:01:09.900 You've never been deported before?
00:01:11.400 You've got to fill.
00:01:12.400 All at once.
00:01:13.400 All federal grants and loans will be halted.
00:01:16.460 Look, there is a purge happening.
00:01:18.060 Frankly, unprecedented in its nature.
00:01:20.380 Guantanamo.
00:01:21.400 DEI.
00:01:22.400 The Gulf of America.
00:01:23.980 No coherent opposition can really emerge.
00:01:25.780 It is hard to even think coherently.
00:01:28.660 Donald Trump's first two weeks in the White House have followed Bannon's strategy like
00:01:32.780 a script.
00:01:34.300 The flood is a point.
00:01:35.780 The overwhelm is a point.
00:01:37.780 The message wasn't in any one executive order or announcement.
00:01:41.160 It was in the cumulative effect of all of them.
00:01:44.960 The sense that this is Trump's country now.
00:01:47.840 It is his government now.
00:01:49.500 It follows his will.
00:01:50.500 It does what he wants.
00:01:52.160 That he is limitless.
00:01:54.160 If he says that birthright citizenship is over, then it's over.
00:01:59.220 Or so he wants you to think.
00:02:02.040 In Trump's first term, people said, don't normalize him.
00:02:05.060 In a second though, the task I think is a little bit clearer.
00:02:08.740 Don't believe him.
00:02:10.680 Because Trump knows the power of marketing, the power of belief.
00:02:14.360 If you make people believe something is true, you make it likelier that it becomes true.
00:02:19.440 He clawed his way back to great wealth by playing a fearsome billionaire on TV.
00:02:24.140 He remade himself as a winner after the 2020 election by refusing to admit he had ever lost.
00:02:30.640 The American presidency is a limited office.
00:02:33.420 But Trump has never wanted to be president.
00:02:35.840 What he's always wanted to be is king.
00:02:39.360 And his plan this time is to first play king on TV.
00:02:43.600 If we believe he is already king, if we believe he already has all that power, we will be likelier
00:02:48.800 to let him govern as a king.
00:02:51.040 We will then give him that power.
00:02:53.620 Don't believe him.
00:02:55.220 Trump has real powers, but they are the powers of the presidency, the powers Joe Biden had,
00:02:59.880 the powers Barack Obama had.
00:03:01.560 The pardoned power is vast and unrestricted, and so he could indeed pardon the January 6 rioters.
00:03:08.100 Federal security protection is under the discretion of the executive branch.
00:03:11.420 And so, yes, Trump could remove protection from Anthony Fauci and Mike Pompeo and John Fulton
00:03:18.180 and Mark Milley and even Brian Hook, this largely unknown former State Department official who's
00:03:24.540 under threat from Iran, who even donated time to Trump's transition team.
00:03:28.660 I would be very happy to put President Trump's record in the Middle East against any other
00:03:33.320 president.
00:03:34.320 All of this, it was an act of astonishing cruelty and callousness.
00:03:38.160 This from a man who nearly died by an assassin's bullet months ago.
00:03:42.520 As much as anything ever has been this to me, this was an x-ray of the smallness of Trump's
00:03:47.900 soul.
00:03:48.980 But it was an act that was within his official power.
00:03:51.420 But the president cannot rewrite the Constitution.
00:03:55.560 Within days, his birthright citizenship order was frozen by a judge, by a Reagan appointee,
00:04:00.540 who told Trump's lawyers,
00:04:02.300 I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state unequivocally that this
00:04:07.800 is a constitutional order.
00:04:09.820 It just boggles my mind.
00:04:12.660 Then a judge froze Trump's spending freeze.
00:04:16.180 He froze it even before it went into full effect.
00:04:18.720 And shortly thereafter, the Trump administration rescinded the entire order, in part to avoid
00:04:23.180 a court case, then it seemed pretty clear they would lose.
00:04:26.720 What Bannon wanted, what the Trump administration wants, is to keep everything moving fast.
00:04:33.040 Muzzle velocity.
00:04:34.040 If you're always consumed by the next outrage, you can't look closely at the last one.
00:04:39.260 Then the impression of Trump's power remains and the fact that he keeps stepping on rakes
00:04:43.600 is missed.
00:04:45.120 The projection of strength obscures the reality of weakness.
00:04:49.120 Don't believe him.
00:04:50.700 You can see this a few ways.
00:04:52.200 Is Trump playing a part?
00:04:53.620 Is he making a bet?
00:04:54.620 Or is he triggering a crisis?
00:04:56.500 Those I think are the options, and I'm not certain that even he knows the answer.
00:05:00.320 Trump has always been an improviser.
00:05:01.580 But if you take it as a bet, a calculation, then here is a bet he's making.
00:05:07.400 Maybe this Supreme Court, stocked with his appointees, gives him powers no peacetime president has
00:05:12.280 ever possessed.
00:05:14.400 Perhaps all this becomes legal now that he has asserted its legality.
00:05:18.740 It's not impossible to imagine that bet paying off for him.
00:05:21.960 So what if the bet fails?
00:05:23.400 What if Trump's arrogations of power are soundly rejected by the courts?
00:05:28.400 Then comes the question of constitutional crisis.
00:05:30.980 Does he just ignore the court's ruling?
00:05:33.860 To do that would be to attempt a kind of coup.
00:05:36.060 I wonder if they have a stomach for that.
00:05:37.860 The withdrawal of the OMB order, to me, suggests they don't.
00:05:40.400 Because bravado aside, Trump's political capital is thin.
00:05:45.280 Gallup is Trump's approval rating at 47%.
00:05:48.440 That is about 10 points beneath Joe Biden in January of 2021.
00:05:52.940 Both in his first and his second terms, he entered office with approval ratings below that
00:05:56.960 of any other president in the modern era.
00:05:59.920 And so I thought these defenses of Trump's firings were telling.
00:06:03.860 It is the belief of this White House and the White House counsel's office that the president
00:06:07.520 was within his executive authority to do that.
00:06:11.020 The law says he's supposed to do a 30 days notice.
00:06:13.560 He didn't do that.
00:06:14.560 No, he didn't.
00:06:15.560 Do you think he violated the law?
00:06:16.560 Well, technically, yeah.
00:06:17.560 Do you believe that it's legal?
00:06:19.140 By definition, it's his administration.
00:06:20.760 They work for him at the pleasure of the president.
00:06:23.780 And if it's illegal, it should be legal.
00:06:25.820 So then ask yourself, why isn't Trump trying to make it legal?
00:06:29.500 There is a reason Trump is doing all this through executive orders rather than submitting
00:06:32.940 the same directives as legislation to pass through Congress.
00:06:36.280 A more powerful executive could convince Congress to eliminate the spending he opposes or to
00:06:41.160 reform the civil service to give him the powers of hiring and firing that he seeks.
00:06:45.820 And there's a good reason to do that.
00:06:48.100 To write these changes into legislation would make them both more durable and would allow
00:06:52.220 him to argue their merits in a more strategic way.
00:06:54.540 He would be reforming the entire system.
00:06:57.040 But Republicans at the moment, they have only a three-seat edge in the House, smallest majority
00:07:01.500 since the Great Depression.
00:07:02.500 They have a 53-seat majority in the Senate.
00:07:05.680 Trump is obviously doing nothing to reach out to Democrats.
00:07:08.960 If Trump tried to pass this agenda's legislation, it would fail.
00:07:12.700 And that would make Trump look weak.
00:07:14.680 And Trump, Trump doesn't want to look weak.
00:07:17.480 He remembers John McCain humiliating him in his first term by casting the deciding vote
00:07:21.240 against Obamacare appeal.
00:07:25.380 Congress is a place where you can lose.
00:07:28.220 What Trump wants you to see in all this activity is command.
00:07:31.840 What is really in all this activity is chaos.
00:07:34.680 They have convinced themselves that speed and force is a strategy unto itself.
00:07:39.300 That it is, in a sense, a replacement for an actual strategy, for thinking and talking
00:07:44.080 things through, for consultation, for planning things out.
00:07:48.020 Don't believe them.
00:07:49.020 I had a conversation a couple of months ago with someone who knows how the federal government
00:07:53.400 works about as well as anyone alive.
00:07:55.480 And I asked him what would worry him most if he saw Trump doing it.
00:08:00.480 What he said was that he would worry most if Trump went slowly, if he began his term by
00:08:06.880 doing things that made him more popular, that made his opposition weaker and more confused,
00:08:11.920 if he worked by stealth, if he tried to build strength for the midterms while slowly expanding
00:08:16.200 his powers and chipping away at the state in the places where it was weakest, where people
00:08:21.740 couldn't really see him doing it.
00:08:24.000 But Trump didn't do any of that.
00:08:26.380 Instead, muzzle velocity.
00:08:28.580 And so the opposition to Trump, which seemed so listless and absent after the election,
00:08:33.240 now it's beginning to rouse itself.
00:08:35.800 There is a subreddit for federal employees where one of the top posts reads, this non-buyout
00:08:40.160 really seems to have backfired.
00:08:42.020 I'll be honest, before that email went out, I was looking for any way to get out of this
00:08:45.560 fresh hell.
00:08:46.800 But now I'm fired up to make these goons as frustrated as possible.
00:08:50.820 As I write this, it's been upvoted more than 39,000 times.
00:08:55.040 And civil servant after civil servant is echoing the initial sentiment.
00:09:00.520 In Iowa this week, Democrats flipped a state senate seat in a district that Trump had won
00:09:05.260 easily in 2024.
00:09:08.000 The attempted spending freeze gave Democrats their voice back as they zeroed in on the popular
00:09:11.980 programs Trump had imperiled.
00:09:14.740 Trump isn't building support here, he's losing it.
00:09:17.240 Trump isn't fracturing his opposition, he's finally uniting it.
00:09:22.440 This is the weakness of the strategy that Bannon proposed and that Trump is following.
00:09:26.220 It is a strategy that forces you into overreach.
00:09:29.460 To keep the zone flooded, you have to keep acting, you have to keep moving, you have to
00:09:34.480 keep creating new cycles of outrage or fear to keep the media and the opposition overwhelmed.
00:09:39.180 But then you overwhelm yourself.
00:09:42.020 They are flooding their own zone.
00:09:44.440 I don't know that Trump sees his own fork in the road coming.
00:09:48.060 He may believe he's a power he is claiming.
00:09:49.640 That would be a mistake on his part, it would be a self-deception that could doom his presidency.
00:09:55.040 But the real threat is if he convinces the rest of us to believe he has power he does
00:09:59.620 not have.
00:10:01.160 The first two weeks of his presidency have not shown his strength.
00:10:04.560 He is trying to overwhelm you.
00:10:07.140 He is trying to keep you off balance.
00:10:09.400 He is trying to convince you of something that isn't true.
00:10:13.240 Don't believe him.
00:10:17.240 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:10:22.060 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:10:26.240 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:10:31.320 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:10:33.240 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:10:34.660 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop
00:10:37.060 it.
00:10:38.060 It's going to happen.
00:10:39.060 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:10:42.060 MAGA Media.
00:10:43.060 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:10:49.040 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:10:52.680 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:10:58.920 In the war room, here's your host, Stephen K.
00:11:01.740 Bannon.
00:11:02.740 Welcome.
00:11:03.740 It's Thursday, 6 February, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:11:08.740 I wanted to play that from Ezra Klein right there.
00:11:18.560 They understand flood the zone and how they're trying to combat it by focus, focus, focus.
00:11:23.000 They're still getting overwhelmed.
00:11:25.160 They will continue to be overwhelmed because President Trump is taking actions in every
00:11:29.220 different vertical and pushing the envelope here.
00:11:32.980 Later, we're going to have Ben Berquam and Benzman on about the deportations effort and
00:11:36.640 going after the cartels effort.
00:11:39.360 President Trump also signs, or Pam Bonney, I think, he signs an executive order with Pam
00:11:44.820 Bonney.
00:11:45.820 He's going to hit up a task force to make sure the government doesn't have any anti-Christian
00:11:49.600 bias.
00:11:50.600 It's going to be quite interesting.
00:11:52.220 But today, we're getting a beat back in federal court.
00:11:54.720 President Trump then, I think, put the entire USAID on leave.
00:11:59.920 So there's a lot going on.
00:12:00.920 Do I have Natalie?
00:12:01.920 Is Natalie up at the...
00:12:02.920 Is she up at the White House yet?
00:12:03.920 We're trying to get this up.
00:12:05.920 Okay.
00:12:06.920 Can we go there?
00:12:07.920 Not?
00:12:08.920 Fine.
00:12:09.920 I'll keep it right here.
00:12:10.920 We're good.
00:12:11.920 There we go.
00:12:12.920 Natalie, so you heard the open right there.
00:12:14.920 They understand the flood the zone strategy.
00:12:18.060 They're trying to fight back.
00:12:20.000 A lot of this is taking place in federal court.
00:12:21.620 Of course, all of your embeds in the federal government are fighting back and leaking.
00:12:27.780 Folks should understand that this is the White House has got peddled down in no break.
00:12:33.240 Things are coming out.
00:12:34.240 Everything President Trump gave a great brief to the press on his populist tax cuts.
00:12:38.440 We'll get to that.
00:12:39.440 Natalie, give us a sense of the White House.
00:12:41.840 How's it going?
00:12:42.840 And particularly on the resistance, ma'am, to flood the zone.
00:12:45.840 Yes.
00:12:46.840 Well, I'm always honored to sit in that press briefing room and have a front row seat, not
00:12:52.280 just to the press briefings, but more importantly, to the resistance, which of course is, I think,
00:12:56.440 the bedrock of it becoming more and more each day.
00:12:59.080 The mainstream media, before we get into all the lawsuits, or I guess we should say the lawfare,
00:13:03.400 I just want to give, I guess it's a little bit of an exclusive, put our audience inside
00:13:07.460 the room as I was getting ready to come out here and do this hit.
00:13:11.080 I have to say, it was really, I mean, from my perspective, a glorious feeling going on
00:13:15.520 in that press briefing room.
00:13:16.640 But every single mainstream media journalist looked so dejected.
00:13:20.480 I was listening to their conversations.
00:13:22.480 They're all so tired.
00:13:23.480 They're like, I don't even know how to cover this.
00:13:25.840 I think the quote of the day has to be, it's just all dismantling.
00:13:30.120 It's dismantling everything.
00:13:32.480 And I wanted to turn to him and say, well, yes, exactly.
00:13:35.800 And that's what the American people elected President Trump to do.
00:13:39.640 But in terms of pushing back against this dismantling, getting into the serious stuff,
00:13:44.880 I think today, I think last night was really the most intense I've ever seen MSNBC really
00:13:50.520 engage with the resistance, even saying that word, which sort of wasn't really spoken out
00:13:55.680 loud all that often, saying it explicitly.
00:13:58.800 And that's because today on various verticals, you've seen the lawfare that they've been planning
00:14:03.360 and pooling for a while, sort of come to fruition, obviously.
00:14:06.600 We hit the Department of Labor lawsuit earlier today, keeping Doge kind of preemptively out
00:14:12.480 of their hair.
00:14:13.480 Obviously, Treasury, with the exception of two individuals having read-only access to
00:14:17.560 what's going on up in Treasury with Scott Besant.
00:14:21.160 That was what we covered this morning.
00:14:22.600 But since then, about an hour before we came to air, the infamous buyout offer, the fork
00:14:28.040 in the road, email, a district judge here in D.C., a Clinton appointee, stepped in and
00:14:34.060 essentially said that we won't be able to rule that out.
00:14:38.200 They're going to have an additional hearing on Monday.
00:14:40.160 Natalie, hang on one second.
00:14:42.880 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:44.160 We're going to come back.
00:14:44.880 The resistance in federal court with certain administrative judges, President Trump still
00:14:50.660 keeping the pedal down, signing executive orders, taking executive actions, all next in
00:14:56.900 the war room.
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00:16:38.520 Biden has put a temporary stop on President Trump and Elon Musk's attempt to buy out the
00:16:45.740 federal workforce, ruling that both the administration and the labor unions who brought the suit need
00:16:51.460 more time to brief their arguments, meaning that until next hearing, the next hearing,
00:16:56.220 which is, by the way, scheduled for Monday, all employees who may have taken the buyout must
00:17:00.640 be told the offer is blocked until at least next week.
00:17:04.940 There are some major questions, though, about what's going to happen after that.
00:17:08.300 First and foremost, whether the offer is legal, but also even if it is, whether the government
00:17:14.440 has the money to fund the buyouts.
00:17:17.120 After all, Congress has not allocated any money for that purpose, and there is still a looming
00:17:23.200 fight over a shutdown.
00:17:28.120 One of the members of the engine room just, you know, said, hey, look, what Trump's it's
00:17:33.160 kind of blitzkrieg.
00:17:34.060 It's to overwhelm and develop and continue to move on, not stop.
00:17:38.900 Bang, bang, bang.
00:17:40.600 Natalie, and these people are smart, and they're particularly using what they've got, which
00:17:46.300 is media, which they've been a little bit overwhelmed, but also to use the courts now
00:17:50.960 and to use your brilliant term, the embeds that infest this government.
00:17:58.380 Of the two and a half million civilian, I think we got 40,000.
00:18:02.920 Was it 40,000 takes on the buyout?
00:18:05.640 Was that the number?
00:18:07.800 I think it was about 2% of the entire workforce.
00:18:10.660 I think we need to add at least another zero to that.
00:18:12.960 I guess maybe, hey, the silver lining of postponing this till Monday is that, I guess, more people
00:18:17.880 can sign on.
00:18:19.280 But to go back to this concept of embed, Steve, because I think that really gets to the heart
00:18:23.960 of it, right?
00:18:24.340 The concept of civil society, but most importantly, civil service and civil servants at that, right?
00:18:30.860 That was sort of the cornerstone of their resistance since they lack any institutional power right
00:18:35.120 now, and the group that actually sued to stop this fork in the road email memo was actually
00:18:42.900 Democracy Forward, the group that we've been talking about extensively, the consortium of
00:18:47.780 over 200 resistance-type groups.
00:18:50.400 You got the ACLUs, the SPLCs, every woke group that exists under the sun and probably is receiving
00:18:56.380 your taxpayer dollars, but they all represent and basically create this group called Democracy
00:19:03.300 Forward.
00:19:03.680 But remember, the first step that they took when they set up this new group was to create
00:19:08.280 something called Civil Service Strong, and it was a very activist approach.
00:19:12.600 I always described it as sort of the impeachment that could have been, right?
00:19:16.280 They were instructing federal service, federal servants to basically become whistleblowers,
00:19:21.880 how they could best do that, how they could best file lawsuits themselves, citing discrimination.
00:19:27.360 And I think, frankly, Steve, the best and most interesting, frankly, insightful part of the
00:19:32.580 whole Democracy Forward operation is that one of their board members was actually a DOJ career
00:19:39.820 civil servant under both Biden and President Trump in the voting rights division.
00:19:47.400 And I think that that speaks to the concept of embed with rather metaphorical significance
00:19:52.720 that the same guy who wants to now make the case that all of these civil servants are not doing
00:19:57.940 anything to oppose President Trump's legislative agenda, well, that's now the very same guy who's
00:20:02.940 on the board of the organization suing President Trump for trying to rid his administration of
00:20:08.040 people just like him.
00:20:10.460 But I will say a bright spot today.
00:20:13.200 Obviously, there was a lot of outrage.
00:20:15.260 I was going to say media outrage, but I think not from the outlets that are just a few feet
00:20:19.980 away from me because they're all on the take from USAID.
00:20:23.060 But President Trump ordered GSA to rescind any federal funding subscriptions or otherwise going
00:20:29.380 to outlets, including, but not limited to because they're investigating it, Politico,
00:20:33.320 the BBC and the New York Times.
00:20:35.480 So maybe that's why there are the long faces in that press briefing room.
00:20:43.020 Talk about the morale at the White House.
00:20:45.360 I mean, these folks are working now seven days a week, 18-hour days.
00:20:50.900 I understand the euphoria when you first get there, the intensity, but they're under onslaught.
00:20:56.940 They're getting, you know, they're getting the bad looks from the media.
00:20:59.820 And as you know, the White House briefing room, which is still right there, it's not moved
00:21:03.980 over to EOB, it's right in the middle of things.
00:21:06.360 What's the energy you're seeing from EOB and from the West Wing?
00:21:10.420 What's the energy, the intensity?
00:21:12.320 How are we doing?
00:21:14.960 Well, frankly, I think Doge needs to get to work in the press briefing room.
00:21:19.100 But I'll leave that aside for a second.
00:21:21.820 Look, I think that what it has come down to, obviously, they have embeds.
00:21:25.420 They've done the burrowing in of all the presidential appointments under President Biden,
00:21:30.440 turning them into career civil servants.
00:21:32.040 They've tried to mount the best resistance that they can.
00:21:35.140 But unfortunately, and you know, we are not, shall we say, sunshine soldiers.
00:21:38.920 We are winter soldiers here in the war room.
00:21:41.700 We call shots.
00:21:42.760 We call balls and strikes.
00:21:44.640 Every person, for the most part, you know, there's always some issues, but who has been
00:21:48.260 appointed under President Trump, I think particularly at the Department of Justice, has been an absolute
00:21:54.540 killer.
00:21:55.620 And I think that there's, if you really get down to it, a certain level of agency and autonomy
00:22:01.140 that a lot of these individuals have in terms of feeling comfortable to actually push back
00:22:07.960 and carry out their own mandate that I think if you really get to the core of it, much like
00:22:13.680 the resistance is very systemic, well thought out and well planned.
00:22:17.180 And I know you aren't allowed to say the words Project 2025, but this is a resistance, a sort
00:22:23.160 of pro-Trump resistance that's been being planned for a very, very long time, right?
00:22:27.900 We had four years to plan this.
00:22:29.380 And I think what you're seeing is execution.
00:22:31.800 And I know the comms shop has been working overtime to really message and push back against
00:22:37.200 a lot of the sneers coming from the mainstream media.
00:22:40.440 I think one point and example that really showcases this is that the mainstream media is trying
00:22:45.860 to take a bunch of laps and dunk, not just on the White House, but on the sort of, you
00:22:50.840 know, ex-brigade saying that, oh, well, some of the grants that you guys have identified,
00:22:54.780 they're actually not coming from USAID, but rather they're coming from the State Department.
00:22:59.040 And I think that that logic, Steve, actually proves why President Trump's federal funding
00:23:04.500 freeze needs to be implemented, because it's not just USAID.
00:23:08.480 There is something rotten within the entirety of this government.
00:23:12.520 And I think President Trump and, like I said, the Twitter researchers, the Twitter investigators,
00:23:16.860 the Doge people are really getting to the bottom of it.
00:23:19.860 And it really is firing on all cylinders.
00:23:22.480 And like I said, Steve, the real tell, I wish the audience, I would do anything I could
00:23:26.420 to bring you guys inside that room with me.
00:23:29.040 They're an absolute meltdown.
00:23:30.600 I believe I heard everyone say, I can't believe it's not Friday yet.
00:23:33.920 I can't believe the week's not over.
00:23:35.300 It feels like we've been here for months.
00:23:36.860 It feels like this is the longest week ever.
00:23:39.040 It's just about dismantling.
00:23:40.820 How do we cover it?
00:23:41.800 And then another quote, I don't think that, you know, the people want to read about all
00:23:45.380 these stories about these random agencies being shut down.
00:23:48.580 And I was like, no, we do.
00:23:51.660 And we're going to.
00:23:52.560 Well, this is what deconstruction administrative state is, right?
00:23:58.780 They're seeing it right now.
00:23:59.880 They're copying you.
00:24:00.920 Yeah.
00:24:01.100 I think going through.
00:24:02.180 No, but I think going through and looking at the numbers and what Elon's doing in that
00:24:06.840 regard is very powerful.
00:24:09.000 And obviously with USAID and others, I'll talk in a little while about, I think we got to
00:24:13.440 start getting serious about where we're going to have the big cuts because the 14th of March
00:24:18.260 is not going to go away.
00:24:19.220 And that's when the government runs out of money.
00:24:20.540 Last thing before I let you go, Ezra Klein, this thing is going super viral on the left
00:24:25.600 with the indivisible group, democracy forward, the media, they feel Ezra Klein's giving them
00:24:31.900 a way forward, particularly that Trump really doesn't have any power.
00:24:36.060 He has the projection of power.
00:24:38.020 And if they just pick, if they don't go after everything, as we keep saying here,
00:24:41.780 focus is power, focus is power.
00:24:44.140 They're trying to say the same mantra to pick and choose where you fight Trump.
00:24:47.240 Do you believe that as you see it, the left is picking that up right now?
00:24:53.500 Kind of sounds like the foil to Curtis Yarvin.
00:24:57.320 You know, I don't necessarily, I can't put myself in the mindset or the shoes of the resistance
00:25:02.220 types, but as someone who has read, I think every pamphlet available in terms of what they're
00:25:07.600 telling their audience, I attend all their town halls, I watch all of the rhetoric that
00:25:11.920 they're putting out there.
00:25:13.220 I think truly, Steve, part of it is cope, right?
00:25:15.700 They need the idea that what they can do actually has some effect.
00:25:19.080 And I think up until yesterday, their efforts to push back through the media were really
00:25:25.140 not all that successful.
00:25:26.700 I think today they've started to see some legal and lawfare victories, albeit temporary,
00:25:31.600 right?
00:25:31.840 They're not the permanent injunctions that they're pushing for.
00:25:34.040 So we'll see how that works out when President Trump's team actually has the opportunity to
00:25:38.500 push back.
00:25:39.340 But this mindset of civil society, I think the biggest lie, frankly, Steve, being pushed
00:25:44.620 on sort of the grassroots left right now is that they actually have a voice in the resistance
00:25:51.920 movement because this is something that's not happening, right?
00:25:55.160 That's sort of the, I think, juxtaposition of our show versus the left wing grassroots,
00:25:59.960 right?
00:26:00.260 Our resistance is driven by the people who view this show and it's against the party elites.
00:26:04.740 Democrat resistance is driven by the party elites, oftentimes against their own grassroots.
00:26:10.520 But the grassroots, what they want to see come from the party, the more populous left
00:26:14.980 wing stuff, they're never going to get.
00:26:17.220 So they're sort of fighting for a pyrrhic victory, right?
00:26:19.240 They're only fighting to make democratic power brokers and elites kind of have that institutional
00:26:23.660 power.
00:26:24.560 It's the people like Norm Eisen.
00:26:26.080 It's the Victorian Newlands.
00:26:27.320 It's the regime change people who are really focused on this.
00:26:30.720 And frankly, Steve, I don't even think the paradigm, much like you always say, is necessarily
00:26:33.780 Democrat, Republican.
00:26:35.060 You're talking about USAID.
00:26:36.920 You're talking about an existential threat, not just to Democrats, but to this sort of
00:26:40.840 just neocon, for lack of a better word, world order that in the same way, it's sure it's
00:26:47.760 the Soros groups too, but it's also the International Republican Institute that thinks that we need
00:26:51.900 to be the world's policemen.
00:26:53.280 So it's an interesting thing that we're definitely going to be tracking here.
00:26:56.360 But I think the audience just needs to remember groups like Indivisible, Democracy Forward,
00:27:01.020 Democracy 2025, and of course, Democracy Docket, Mark Elias' group, these are what we need
00:27:06.800 to be focusing on.
00:27:07.760 Don't get lost with the shiny toys.
00:27:09.620 That's the hotbed of resistance.
00:27:14.040 Natalie, very proud of the work you're doing.
00:27:16.120 The one person is kind of trying to coordinate all this and see it.
00:27:18.660 It's just amazing.
00:27:19.840 So where do people go for your social media, ma'am?
00:27:21.740 Thank you.
00:27:23.780 Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
00:27:26.080 Thank you for having me.
00:27:27.080 And thank you to the audience for letting me stand inside that really depressed briefing
00:27:31.140 room.
00:27:34.240 So great.
00:27:35.200 They're depressed for all the right reasons, ma'am.
00:27:39.600 Deconstructing the administrative state.
00:27:41.700 Natalie Winters at the White House.
00:27:43.440 Want to thank Real America's Voice.
00:27:44.840 Want to thank President Trump's White House comms team.
00:27:47.520 Want to thank Susie Wilds, the chief of staff, everybody, for making that available.
00:27:52.160 I think we're making good use of it.
00:27:54.840 Mike Davis is going to join us.
00:27:56.840 I want to make sure that we understand the legal, the chop blocks that are coming after
00:28:01.200 us.
00:28:01.540 And also Cash Patel, a little drama there.
00:28:05.540 Today with Cash, some great news on an executive order to make sure there's no bias
00:28:11.520 about Christianity or Christians in the government.
00:28:13.940 Catherine O'Neill worked at the State Department trying to get her on to talk about that.
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00:28:33.940 Talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
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00:30:09.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:30:15.840 Okay, President Trump's tax policies.
00:30:18.500 I'll get that tweet here in a second or the true story.
00:30:21.100 People have been tweeting it out.
00:30:23.200 Basically, President Trump reconfirm, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
00:30:32.880 He's going to do away with carried interest.
00:30:35.960 He's going to do away with any kind of tax breaks for Bayon Air's own sports teams.
00:30:41.620 It's pretty powerful.
00:30:43.500 More about manufacturing, tax breaks for manufacturing here.
00:30:47.460 Pretty incredible.
00:30:48.920 Great first start.
00:30:50.280 I mean, pushing this through.
00:30:51.580 And the big one was no tax on Social Security, which means we've got to, to all the doers out there,
00:31:00.240 time now to stop failing and trying to change the subject.
00:31:04.380 Where are your cuts?
00:31:05.420 We need to do.
00:31:07.500 What we need to do is the trillion dollars you promised us.
00:31:10.520 So where are they?
00:31:12.500 Maybe they're south of the Potomac.
00:31:14.260 I think they might be in the Pentagon, some of them.
00:31:17.520 And some of them may be in SpaceX.
00:31:19.500 Just saying.
00:31:21.540 We'll get to all that a little later.
00:31:22.960 Mike Davis, lawfare, legal, the chop block in President Trump.
00:31:27.700 So just give an objective.
00:31:29.600 They're hitting us with lawsuits everywhere, state level, federal level.
00:31:35.380 What's working and what's not?
00:31:37.040 And what's the mindset we have to have to power through, to power through these, these lawsuits?
00:31:43.940 President Trump ran on a campaign of bringing this much needed reform to Washington, D.C.,
00:31:51.840 including cutting wasteful spending, ending the weaponization of intel agencies and law enforcement,
00:31:59.680 ending discrimination against women and girls in sports and in locker rooms,
00:32:06.580 against the anti-Christian bias.
00:32:08.780 President Trump is delivering on what the American people elected him to do.
00:32:14.340 And he is using his Article II power under the Constitution to do this.
00:32:19.760 And so the people who don't like this are running to these activist judges and getting temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions to stop this.
00:32:32.440 And I would advise the Trump Justice Department to move forward boldly and aggressively and seek expedited review by the appellate courts
00:32:43.780 and use the emergency docket at the Supreme Court aggressively if you have to for these activist judges who are trying to stop the president from asserting his Article II power.
00:32:56.420 Let me give you an example.
00:32:57.280 We had a judge, a Reagan-appointed judge in the D.C. District Court, Judge Royce Lamberth, who was a pain in the ass on January 6th.
00:33:07.420 He's this old, decrepit judge who barely can walk, as Julie Kelly will talk about.
00:33:13.560 He should just step down from the bench.
00:33:15.480 He issued an injunction, I think it was yesterday, saying that it's cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution to not give prisoners their transgender pills and surgeries, which is just absolutely insane.
00:33:33.520 And it's these activist judges, whether it's left-wing judges appointed by Obama or Biden or these washed-up, weak Republican judges from a prior era.
00:33:48.620 We cannot tolerate this.
00:33:50.300 We need to get these appellate courts to step up and slap down these activist judges with their nationwide injunctions, which I don't understand how are constitutional,
00:34:01.180 and get the Supreme Court again to step in on the emergency docket if we have to.
00:34:07.840 Okay, hang on for one second.
00:34:09.660 I want to – are you saying you want the Justice Department – that you're going to see activist judges all over at the first line, at the district level.
00:34:17.640 You want the Justice Department now to expedite and go above that to appellate court.
00:34:22.420 Let's get some rulings on this and just clear the path, right?
00:34:25.080 Yeah.
00:34:25.240 Let's clear the path and get back to it.
00:34:26.620 Is that your recommendation?
00:34:28.480 Absolutely.
00:34:28.920 Aggressively seek emergency relief from the appellate courts, emergency relief from the Supreme Court of the United States on the emergency docket.
00:34:38.860 And I would say at the Article III project, I am so sick of the D.C. district court.
00:34:44.600 I'm disgusted by it.
00:34:46.360 I'm disgusted by what they did to these January 6th defendants.
00:34:50.800 So we're going to come up with legislation at the Article III project to rein in the D.C. district court, this D.C. district court that politically persecuted January 6th defendants, this D.C. district court that put a 75-year-old Christian in prison under the FACE Act, this D.C. district court that politicized and weaponized our justice system to go after Trump.
00:35:14.920 This is unacceptable, and these D.C. district court judges need to get reined in.
00:35:20.960 There needs to be oversight by the House and Senate, Judiciary Committee, Oversight Committee, Appropriation Committee.
00:35:27.920 And we need to pass legislation to take away the power, to take away the jurisdiction, to take away the power from these D.C. district court judges.
00:35:36.280 They are a bunch of partisan activists from, again, from Obama or Biden, or they are weak, feckless Republicans.
00:35:43.400 And it's unacceptable, and there needs to be consequences.
00:35:47.020 And we're going to push very hard at the Article III project for that to happen.
00:35:51.440 On another topic, you're the Article III project because you deal with the courts.
00:36:00.540 As you look at this, given that you clerked for Gorsuch, as you look at this, on anything you've seen Doge doing today, and look, Elon's out there, and I want him to focus more on real cuts, but he's doing his line diagram for the system.
00:36:15.700 He's trying to learn. He's got his guys everywhere, and you've got President Trump doing executive orders, and Mike Johnson looks like he's agreeing with him.
00:36:25.140 He's Speaker of the House. John Thune seems like the Senate's fine with it.
00:36:30.580 Do you see any constitutional conflict between the Article I powers and the Article II powers of the executive branch as you see it right now?
00:36:38.340 Any real kind of conflict or crisis?
00:36:42.720 No. I mean, Congress has the power to legislate, and the President under Article II has the power to faithfully execute our laws, and he has to take care that they are executed in an appropriate way.
00:36:56.220 And when you have, for example, a federal agency like USAID that is subverting our national security interests, that's funding BLM through the Tide Foundation that goes to BLM so they can do their riots, that's funding our enemies abroad, that's a big problem.
00:37:15.760 And the President, when you're dealing with an agency that has foreign policy implications, then the President has more power as Commander-in-Chief to do more than he does with domestic agencies.
00:37:28.740 So I am all in on cutting wasteful government spending and doing it in any way that you legally can do it because it's refreshing to finally have a Republican administration that's not part of the Uniparty that actually wants to go in and cut spending in Washington, D.C.
00:37:51.800 Republicans have been talking about doing this for decades.
00:37:55.680 Newt Gingrich tried it back in 1998.
00:37:57.740 They tried it for a couple of years, and then Republicans went back to being big-spending, drunken sailors with the Democrats.
00:38:04.620 And it's nice to have an attitude adjustment with President Trump this time, cutting in and actually trying to take a hammer to these government agencies.
00:38:14.560 For example, the New York Times is reporting that USAID, this is breaking news, that USAID, which has 10,000 employees, the Trump administration, according to three sources,
00:38:26.320 is looking to cut that down from 10,000 to 290 employees.
00:38:31.280 So those are the types of things the Trump administration can do to rein in these out-of-control agencies that are wasting hundreds of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money every year.
00:38:43.620 The other thing that's breaking right now, he has said that they're putting all of the USAID, I think, on leave, on temporary leave.
00:38:55.320 Can the executive branch, in the unified theory of the executive, does he have the power, one, to basically send him on some sort of temporary leave?
00:39:06.440 Number two, does he have the power, does he have to go back to Congress in the appropriations process, does he have the power to go from 10,000 to 290, sir?
00:39:15.120 Well, it's amazing. For four years, these federal bureaucrats, five years, these federal bureaucrats threw a fit and got to work from home because of COVID.
00:39:24.580 And then President Trump brings them back to work, and they're throwing a fit that they get brought back to work.
00:39:30.740 And now President Trump's going to send these USAID people back home, and they're crying again.
00:39:35.660 So I'm not sure which way they want to go.
00:39:38.500 Do they want to come into the office and work, or do they want to stay home?
00:39:41.760 But does President Trump have that power? Sure.
00:39:45.120 Under Article II of the Constitution, the president runs the executive branch.
00:39:49.520 He's the head of the executive branch, and he gets to hire and fire people.
00:39:53.620 And statutes that prevent the president from hiring and firing federal executive branch employees are unconstitutional under Article II of the Constitution.
00:40:05.740 A lot of this is pushing towards impoundment.
00:40:08.140 Do you think that to pay a letter or somebody at OMB would just sort of get on with it?
00:40:11.840 Because this is about the president saying, hey, I understand there's an appropriations process.
00:40:15.440 I understand that's a law.
00:40:16.820 I understand that's a statute.
00:40:18.120 But that's a ceiling.
00:40:19.760 And if that's a ceiling, I'm the chief executive of the government by the Constitution.
00:40:23.900 If I deem that the program is not hitting, is not doing what it's supposed to do, I can go in and take that.
00:40:29.060 I can go say there's no more Green News scam or no more USAID, and there's $30 billion around.
00:40:34.720 I can lay my hands on that and do something else with it or just have it pay down the deficit.
00:40:40.340 Do you think that pay a letter and vote and others, maybe the White House counsel or people over at DOJ, ought to start teeing up and let's go force the impoundment issue right now?
00:40:50.820 I love Mark Payoletta, and I love Russ Boat.
00:40:54.760 This impoundment thing got President Trump impeached in the first term.
00:40:58.200 So what the hell?
00:40:58.880 Let's do it again.
00:40:59.520 Let's get him impeached for the third time.
00:41:01.560 But, I mean, if you think about it, think about what the opposition to this is saying.
00:41:05.720 You had, what, $180 billion go to Ukraine and Zelensky.
00:41:11.420 And Zelensky said, well, I didn't get $100 billion of that $180 billion.
00:41:16.140 So where the hell did that $100 billion go?
00:41:19.480 And if the president doesn't have the Article II power to take care that $100 billion is not sent to an oligarch's rat's nest, then we might have a problem under our Constitution.
00:41:32.920 The president has a constitutional obligation to take care that the laws are faithfully executed, and that includes appropriations by Congress.
00:41:41.820 And if these appropriations are being misspense, if there's fraud, then the president has a duty to make sure that doesn't happen.
00:41:52.400 We talked about this on Friday.
00:41:54.420 It was happening.
00:41:55.860 What happened at the FBI on the J6 investigation, what happened at DOJ with the laying off of some of these prosecutors, I talked to you about, hey, do you think they're going to try to come back and get another day with cash?
00:42:07.660 It turns out today, instead of coming in for a vote, they went in high dungeon and said, we have to kick it a week.
00:42:14.840 We need more investigation.
00:42:16.360 And Durbin and these guys want to go next week.
00:42:18.380 What is your assessment of where we stand in the process with Cash Patel?
00:42:23.080 I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee in the first term for President Trump.
00:42:28.260 Chairman Chuck Grassley, my former boss, is the perfect person to lead President Trump's Justice Department nominees and judges through the process like he did the first time.
00:42:40.480 Cash Patel, as we know, is a controversial pick.
00:42:43.380 He says Mike Davis-level stuff when he goes on his podcast.
00:42:47.460 And Chuck Grassley has got him through this Senate Judiciary Committee process unscathed, right?
00:42:53.960 And so what happened is the Democrats wanted to open up another hearing like they always do.
00:42:59.360 Chuck Grassley told them no appropriately.
00:43:02.540 And with this one-week holdover, this is routine.
00:43:06.140 I know people are freaking out about this today.
00:43:08.240 This is part of the Senate Judiciary Committee rules that nominees get nominated.
00:43:13.920 They have pre-hearing stuff that they have to do, paperwork they have to submit, meetings they have to do.
00:43:21.340 They have their hearing, which we did two Wednesdays ago with Cash Patel.
00:43:26.780 And then they have written questions after their hearing, which Cash has responded to and submitted.
00:43:33.300 Then you have two markup meetings where they debate the nomination.
00:43:37.100 The first one they debate, generally they hold over the nominee for another week, which they just did today.
00:43:43.660 And then they had the committee vote, the markup vote the following week, which they'll do next Thursday.
00:43:50.560 This is all routine.
00:43:52.220 Chuck Grassley has this under control.
00:43:54.440 And Cash Patel will be our next FBI director because of Grassley's strong support.
00:44:01.100 Mike, quick break.
00:44:02.900 I want to bring you back for a minute about the Christian executive order.
00:44:07.520 Next.
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00:45:23.140 Mike Davis, so over it with Pam Bonney at DOJ.
00:45:26.760 She's going to be in charge of a task force to go through and see if there's any bias or any prejudice against Christians and Christianity in the federal government.
00:45:34.700 In your mind, how would that work?
00:45:36.820 Well, President Trump issued an executive order today calling on these agency heads to establish a working group.
00:45:45.780 And Pam's going to chair, Attorney General Pam Bonney's going to chair that working group.
00:45:50.960 And their job is to root out this anti-Christian bias that we have throughout our executive branch.
00:45:58.080 It's so pervasive.
00:45:59.180 They don't even try to hide it.
00:46:00.400 And they're going to make clear that Christians are welcomed into the public square and any anti-Christian bias is going to be eliminated immediately and dealt with appropriately.
00:46:13.780 The war on Christians and, frankly, the war on Christians and Jews is over under the Trump administration.
00:46:23.360 Mike, Article 3, now more than ever, we've got to get up.
00:46:26.600 The second round of nominations are coming.
00:46:28.720 We've got a huge tractor pulling from us because they're slowing everything down.
00:46:32.440 Russ Vogt, his vote tonight is not going to come until later.
00:46:36.760 You've got cash, obviously, and all the second and third tier people that really make things run.
00:46:42.020 Where do they go for Article 3 and how do they sign up for your program?
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00:46:52.600 The most important thing the War Room Posse does is take action.
00:46:56.480 And it's up on your screen right now.
00:46:58.720 We have Kash Patel.
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00:47:05.660 Harmeet Dillon to head the Civil Rights Division.
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00:47:12.480 President Trump is bringing in bold, fearless reformers.
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00:47:23.120 We've done nearly 200,000 contacts to our home state senators.
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00:47:49.340 Amen.
00:47:50.100 Social media, late at night.
00:47:52.120 Your Twitter feed is enlightening.
00:47:54.980 You can go to MRDDMIA, and that's where I'm coming in hot, particularly after 9 p.m.
00:48:07.780 I don't know what happens to me then.
00:48:09.000 I turn into a monster.
00:48:10.740 I don't know what happens to you either.
00:48:12.100 I think the smoking lamp may be lit.
00:48:13.700 I have no idea, but it's enlightening on the dark night of the soul.
00:48:18.640 Let's say that.
00:48:19.320 Mike Davis, we love you, brother.
00:48:21.020 Keep fighting.
00:48:21.360 Thank you, Ben.
00:48:22.160 Thank you.
00:48:22.540 Thank you, Ben.
00:48:52.540 Underneath him, kind of his deputy chief law enforcement officer, to make sure they go through a $6.5 trillion federal government in spending and probably $80 to $100 trillion in assets in every aspect of American life with 10 million employees, right?
00:49:10.480 They have to go through to make sure they rid itself and report back to him on the bias against Christians and Christianity.
00:49:18.460 What does that tell you, sir?
00:49:19.220 Well, I'm living it, Steve.
00:49:21.660 Let's start.
00:49:22.320 I'm going to have Pam Bondi.
00:49:23.480 I hope she's watching.
00:49:25.080 Start with Keith Ellison, the attorney general of Minnesota, attacking a Christian recovery network, the Lindell Recovery Network, Steve.
00:49:34.100 They're going all in attacking that.
00:49:36.440 And for what?
00:49:37.060 Because we want to help addicts and people in addiction get to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
00:49:43.280 I mean, start with that guy.
00:49:44.980 You can't make this stuff up, why Christians are targeted.
00:49:50.460 And boy, I praise the Lord that we have a great president that's going to address this.
00:49:54.960 Because once we said it earlier today on the show this morning, you guys, we're in a spiritual battle of evil versus good, of historical, biblical proportions.
00:50:06.440 We're in the greatest time to be alive because we're living it.
00:50:09.300 We're the ones that are going to be pushing through and helping get rid of – we know how it ends.
00:50:14.980 Good wins in the end and evil is going to go down.
00:50:17.900 But, Steve, I lived that with Keith Ellison.
00:50:20.380 It's been horrific these last couple months as he's attacked my Lindell Recovery Network, the Christian network.
00:50:26.640 It's disgusting.
00:50:27.260 Real quickly, Mike, your fight against Ellison is getting to epic proportions, and they're trying to shut down the Christian network.
00:50:38.780 That's what they're trying to do, his recovery network.
00:50:40.460 They're trying to shut it down.
00:50:41.860 What do you got for us as far as deals go at the end of the day?
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00:52:15.720 Okay, the right stuff is going to take us out.
00:52:18.840 The next hour, Catherine O'Neill was in the White House with President Trump.
00:52:21.760 She was everywhere on the campaigns, in the White House.
00:52:25.520 She, over at the State Department, worked this problem every day.
00:52:29.600 This bias against Christianity and Christians.
00:52:32.920 She's going to join us.
00:52:33.840 Also, Ben Burquam and Todd Benzman.
00:52:36.840 Todd Benzman is working on pieces right now about the kinetic activity that might come to the cartels.
00:52:43.760 What is it really going to take to stop fentanyl?
00:52:46.040 What is President Trump prepared to do?
00:52:48.460 Also, the Mexican president.
00:52:51.500 And Ben Burquam.
00:52:53.540 The ICE raids.
00:52:54.940 Where are we going?
00:52:55.900 Where are we headed?
00:52:56.540 And how are you going to get 10 million people out of here?
00:52:59.280 All-important.
00:53:02.300 On a Thursday, action-packed.
00:53:06.660 There's the nation's capital right there.
00:53:08.200 The right stuff.
00:53:09.140 That's it.
00:53:10.240 Short break.
00:53:11.000 Back in the warm in a moment.
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