Bannon's War Room - Episode 4291： AFD Makes Massive Grounds In German Election; Macron At The White House

00:00:00.000 now um the rise of the afd in fact you spent time in germany you even attended at least one of their

00:00:05.840 rallies you did a deep dive that's on the atlantic site now uh a must read um tell us a little bit

00:00:11.040 about what you learned there and in the party's new and growing role in that country and the main

00:00:18.800 thing i learned was that the afd was aiming its fire at the cdu at the center right i mean that

00:00:24.000 the afd was saying the center right which just won this election has to be destroyed totally

00:00:29.360 dismantled that they invoked trump they invoked elon musk and they said they they led the way that

00:00:34.640 they destroyed the gop as it existed before and we're going to do this same thing to the cdu now

00:00:39.520 the cdu having won it looks like a victory for them but the afd also measures their victories in

00:00:45.280 different ways too so getting one in five german voters for them was a huge victory because it

00:00:50.800 meant that they couldn't be ignored in the future so what what they might be shut out of government

00:00:55.200 they're very likely to be shut out of government but what they were afraid of was that they would

00:00:59.840 have a showing that would be poor enough that they could actually be be banned as a party be

00:01:03.920 investigated by law enforcement and what they've got is is a showing that makes it impossible for

00:01:09.520 them to be completely ignored politically this apple announcement this morning which just popped

00:01:14.960 6 a.m eastern all the details are up the weed story on axios this is a landmark story for a couple of

00:01:22.000 reasons one the effort by the president to bring manufacturing back to the u.s this is a massive

00:01:30.400 commitment to that and as we say in our story this gives trump the leverage to say to other companies

00:01:37.840 apple can do this apple is bringing these jobs in the into the u.s apple is investing in the u.s why

00:01:44.160 can't you why won't you and the statement out this morning from apple ceo tim cook talking about

00:01:51.520 being bullish on the future of america talking about writing a extraordinary new chapter in the

00:01:58.160 history of american innovation so that's one bucket two there's an incredible footprint for

00:02:04.320 this this is all across the united states and it's part of the big story that axis has been telling

00:02:09.840 that it's no longer just the coast look at where some of these big investments are the swing states

00:02:15.920 of arizona michigan uh pennsylvania north carolina nevada red states the massive investment that you

00:02:24.240 were talking about in texas a big uh innovation lab in michigan so a footprint all across uh the country

00:02:32.960 and third if you look at how the u.s is going to have a sustained recovery it's going to be about

00:02:40.480 building things making things doing that more in the u.s this is a big step toward that can you walk

00:02:46.240 us through the negotiations that you are having right now to tap into not just these rare earth

00:02:52.560 minerals but also oil in ukraine what can you tell us where does the deal stand so maria as you said

00:03:00.160 earlier i traveled to kiev about 10 days ago and met with president zelensky

00:03:06.880 and this deal is part of president trump's long arc negotiating strategy for peace between ukraine

00:03:16.960 and russia and to let the ukrainians get back the to you know a peaceful existence so the first part of

00:03:25.920 this is a partnership between ukraine and the u.s that involves strategic minerals energy and state-owned

00:03:35.840 enterprises where we set up a partnership and we are only looking forward we it is a win-win president

00:03:43.840 trump they have created this idea himself it is a win-win we make money if the ukrainian people make

00:03:50.640 money and i believe that with the united states of america our know-how our our business is willing to

00:03:57.760 come in and provide capital that we can accelerate the ukrainian growth trajectory and take in substantial

00:04:06.480 monies for the u.s taxpayers and get you the ukrainian economy on a growth great growth trajectory um

00:04:14.480 you know how do you foresee the role they'll play going forward now with this new government in place

00:04:19.120 in germany so i think you can look at some of the states where they've been very popular so i was in the

00:04:23.040 state of turingia one of the places where they've been most popular in the past and in fact in state

00:04:27.200 parliament they won a plurality of votes there but they were not in government because all the other

00:04:32.000 parties joined a coalition against them and made them um just shut them out so what was the effect

00:04:37.920 of that supporters of the afd were angrier than ever they their their view was even when we win we

00:04:43.680 lose so now that they haven't um you know that got enough of a share of the federal parliament to

00:04:49.600 actually be in in government to be most likely in government any coalition they're still going to

00:04:53.760 feel like they've been shut out so i i feel like this is sort of a reckoning postponed with the

00:04:58.800 afd and the rise of the far right in germany because their their supporters are going to look

00:05:03.680 at their fairly strong showing a stronger showing than ever before and see that they're still being

00:05:08.800 shut out and that's going to make them mad and whenever the next reckoning comes the real reckoning

00:05:13.680 it's going to be pretty severe this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies

00:05:24.560 because we're going to medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying

00:05:30.960 about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you

00:05:35.600 try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:05:39.120 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:05:47.120 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to

00:05:54.960 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bant

00:06:07.840 it's monday 24 february year of early 2025 uh once again there are

00:06:12.800 there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks and months in which decades happen

00:06:19.440 and president trump um continuing on in the uh days of thunder years of lightning

00:06:26.160 pretty extraordinary uh something but i think every it's not that we missed we didn't have time to

00:06:31.840 cover it on saturday morning show at cpac we had somebody the uh the posse there i want to thank

00:06:37.040 everybody that assisted this and putting on obviously real america voice the uh blow away

00:06:43.200 success of the force multiplier academy on wednesday we had a massive turnout i don't know five six hundred

00:06:50.640 people pretty extraordinary in the team grace mo uh jane everybody natalie did such an amazing job

00:06:57.680 and jack basova everybody pitching in um and of course harry the team at real america voice it was so

00:07:02.880 successful we're going to be making some announcements we're going to be rolling that out

00:07:06.000 and taking it on the road throughout the country because um there's a huge demand for it and i think

00:07:12.960 now we can uh we are kind of clicking on how it's actually presented and every time we give new and

00:07:19.040 better information and people are um want to be on the ramparts and they want to be completely weaponized

00:07:26.080 in this fight and so we're here to do it at the war room so much big news the one eclipse and i'm in there

00:07:32.480 there dan bongino friend and colleague dan met dan years ago with andrew brightbard over a decade ago

00:07:40.080 dan ran for um congress out in western maryland then he ran for the senate maryland then he ran for

00:07:44.640 congress down in um in um uh florida he got into uh broadcasting uh enormously successful a great guy

00:07:53.360 and uh a law enforcement guy dan bongino is the deputy to cash patel at the fbi let me repeat that

00:08:02.160 running the fbi is cash patel and dan bongino uh there are going to be some significant changes

00:08:10.560 to the fbi and i think dan is the perfect guy to help uh initiate some of these investigations we

00:08:16.400 talked about on j6 and other things um here but he would be fantastic so so much news there so much

00:08:23.920 news internally also elon sent out this uh email on saturday night about people having to respond

00:08:32.480 and of course cash uh pete hagsworth defense tulsi at dni i think ratcliffe over at the cia

00:08:39.760 uh and uh senator marco rubio secretary of state came back and said hey we'll we'll take care of this

00:08:46.000 ourselves appreciate the effort but our people are not going to be sending you or your junior guys

00:08:50.800 a um uh you know five things they did last week uh we'll handle this so i think you're seeing the

00:08:57.040 the doge thing and you know the house is putting up this kind of reconciliation budget

00:09:03.200 it's got a lot of issues a ton of issues like where's the beef where are the cuts and um

00:09:09.920 the doge right now there's a bunch of articles about are the cuts really there here's what we need

00:09:15.760 we need elon to be more and more and more focused on the waste fraud and abuse and we need somebody

00:09:21.440 to start talking about programmatically and here's where this gets back to this uh you saw scott

00:09:26.240 besson our own scott besson they're talking about the ukraine deal if you add all this what's happened

00:09:32.400 in the last 72 hours about investments president trump signs this america first investment uh policy

00:09:39.520 executive order on friday it is the most it is the clearest i think example and there's some

00:09:48.240 interpretation there we got to firm up but it's the clearest example of the decoupling

00:09:53.520 of uh of the us from the ccp remember an unrestricted warfare one of my favorite books written by the two 0.99

00:10:00.640 chinese then colonels became generals later part of the unrestricted warfare is economic warfare and they've 0.91

00:10:07.040 been in economic war with us for many many decades that economic war underwritten by wall street and

00:10:14.320 um exacerbated by silicon valley and the tech transfer that's gone on willingly you're seeing

00:10:21.760 that pull back now you you've got to look at this signing of this document gaffney will be here to break

00:10:26.720 it down for us that really restricts investments into uh into china into the chinese and particularly

00:10:35.040 anything associated with the chinese communist party it's kind of the reverse of what they did

00:10:40.240 to pompeo pottinger navarre and myself when they fully sanctioned us and said you know you can't be

00:10:46.480 associated with any ccp company or any chinese company you can't be you can't go to china be 0.74

00:10:50.960 associated it's fine if that's what it takes to help free the lao baijing but president trump dropped

00:10:57.520 the hammer on this investment and this is the clearest indication and there's a lot of back channel

00:11:03.520 about chat about what's going on the deals are being cut and who's doing what with president

00:11:07.600 trump on china but this was at least a very clear kind of directional that we're going to decouple

00:11:15.040 on top of that apple with this 500 billion dollar investment 20 000 jobs and as mike allen and axios

00:11:22.000 just said walked you through it's not on the coast this is not centered on california

00:11:28.080 or any of the tech centers like in boston and route 128 this is this is uh very much uh in the

00:11:38.000 heartland of the country look what apple's doing to bring manufacturing back to bring innovation back

00:11:44.400 um this is the issue i've got with the ukraine ukraine you see scott and president i

00:11:49.200 strategically you see what president trump's trying to do i just think

00:11:53.520 it's getting us more and more and more to this ukraine situation ukraine situation is something

00:12:00.480 that is uh is to me should be totally europe and uh we're gonna be pretty adamant about that

00:12:05.200 we have brian glenn at the white house ben harnwell's with us in rome frank gaffney's

00:12:09.440 gonna join us in a moment a lot to go through let's go to brian glenn brian pretty extraordinary

00:12:14.160 day uh macron actually showed up early so he could go to the situation room and do a call

00:12:22.080 with g7 country so macron the president of france actually came early to the white house no ceremony

00:12:27.680 no official greeting no actually greeting at all just showed up and went to the situation room did

00:12:33.920 a call or they i guess the schedule said the oval office did a call on the g7 now correct me if i'm

00:12:40.240 wrong he's left and he's coming back to the white house later for it's not a state visit but a working

00:12:46.160 visit to be greeted shortly after noon and actually sit with president trump the rest of the

00:12:51.200 rest of the uh the bulk of the day correct yeah good morning steve that is absolutely correct and

00:12:59.120 also let me step aside real quick and i'll show you kind of what's going on right now uh he is still

00:13:04.480 in uh the west wing he has not left yet you see the motorcade is pulled up front that first car

00:13:10.080 that's the vehicle he will get in and of course there's a press vehicle uh next to it that longer

00:13:15.920 van uh but you're right he got here shortly before eight o'clock uh had the uh phone call the g7 phone

00:13:23.120 call uh he is now waiting to go back uh to their residence here just outside the white house and

00:13:29.520 and as you said steve is coming back at around just uh 12 35 i think is tentatively when they have it

00:13:36.560 scheduled where he's going to have this uh kind of a bilateral meeting if you will in the oval office

00:13:44.240 we'll be on the ground there as well steve then of course at two o'clock yeah yeah at two o'clock

00:13:48.560 there's a press conference with trump and macron and all of us will bring it to you live as it happens

00:13:55.120 brian hangover a second pretty unusual so the president of france came early

00:13:59.280 with the president do a call g7 call obviously very secured very secure call he's still there he's

00:14:06.560 scheduled to leave and then come back at about 12 15 i think it is been then be greeted by the

00:14:13.040 president over as the the one we've been showing the west wing um access that less formal uh entry

00:14:21.520 point he'll be with the president they'll probably brian get you guys in the oval office for some sort

00:14:27.200 of press avail then at two o'clock i think it's in the east room they're gonna have a uh one of the

00:14:31.280 formal those press conferences that president trump does so well very active day at the white house

00:14:36.640 uh talking about ukraine war and peace and prosperity all of it and president trump's on a

00:14:44.560 roll making deals the master deal maker making deals short commercial break brian glint at the

00:14:51.200 white house ben harnwell in rome frank gaffney's gonna join us we'll return with dan bongino the

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00:16:42.080 six a.m eastern all the details are up the weed story on axios this is a landmark story for a couple

00:16:48.880 of reasons one the effort by the president to bring manufacturing back to the u.s this is a massive

00:16:57.440 commitment to that and as we say in our story this gives trump the leverage to say to other companies

00:17:04.960 apple can do this apple is bringing these jobs in the into the u.s apple is investing in the u.s why can't you

00:17:11.760 why won't you and the statement out this morning from apple ceo tim cook talking about being bullish

00:17:19.920 on the future of america talking about writing a extraordinary new chapter in the history of

00:17:26.240 american innovation so that's one bucket two there's an incredible footprint for this this is all across

00:17:33.120 the united states and it's part of the big story that axis has been telling that it's no longer just the

00:17:38.640 coast look at where some of these big investments are the swing states of arizona michigan uh pennsylvania

00:17:46.720 north carolina nevada red states the massive investment that you were talking about in texas a big uh

00:17:54.720 uh innovation lab in michigan so a footprint all across uh the country and third if you look at how the

00:18:02.560 u.s is going to have a sustained recovery it's going to be about building things making things

00:18:09.280 doing that more in the u.s this is a big step toward that

00:18:14.800 okay uh mike allen over at um axios kind of blockbuster news this morning also there's been

00:18:21.840 some so apple 500 billion dollars 20 000 jobs in the heartland of the country from arizona to

00:18:27.440 you know all over not just putting it into silicon valley or the west coast

00:18:35.920 or seattle profound big news now obviously it's in the details but this is in the in apple tim cook

00:18:43.680 or tim apple as he's known to the president couldn't be more effusive in his support of a new day in

00:18:51.520 america and a new energy the unleashing of animal spirits i think you'd couple that with the america

00:18:58.160 first investment initiative executive order that really went after hey we're decoupling from china

00:19:05.680 i mean i read this as the beginning of of really president trump coming down on the side of those

00:19:12.000 of us that have been hardcore about decoupling and uh you add that to even his strategy and look i

00:19:19.280 think that ukraine sunk cost and we just want to move on but you see the deal maker right he's on

00:19:25.760 a rolls also the white house putting out today of all these investments look i'm not a fan of

00:19:31.040 foreign capital coming into the country i'm just not but president trump's looking at his barometer

00:19:35.200 of people that want to invest in the united states of america on his watch and that on that i think it's

00:19:41.200 very positive brian glenn and brian we've had some you know a little choppy on some of the polling

00:19:49.360 ipsos had a poll out last week that we didn't get a chance to get to it because we're at cpac but it

00:19:55.200 showed um president trump's approval rating disapprove 51 approval 44 that's the first one i've seen like

00:20:02.480 that james carvel brian as you know came out yesterday not that he's done a very good job of

00:20:07.920 being a uh a forecaster but he said in 30 days president trump's uh entire bottom of his polling

00:20:14.320 is going to fall out uh because of what elon musk is doing over doge but this morning harvard harris so

00:20:22.160 the harvard poll uh came out and they're pretty blow away numbers brian glenn can you walk us through

00:20:28.480 it because it shows i think we can say brian harvard is showing us that their poll overwhelming support

00:20:36.240 for president the direction of president trump's actions and the direction of the days of thunder sir

00:20:44.320 yeah you're absolutely right if you take a look at what the numbers even reflect with let's start with

00:20:49.600 deport the deportation of illegal criminals or illegals that have come in this country and even committed

00:20:55.600 crime you've got what 81 percent or for that you go down down the line of undertaking you know ultimate

00:21:03.200 fraud and waste in government exactly what elon musk is doing 70 per six percent of that now if

00:21:09.680 even if you turn to the uh some of the uh more uh you know public policy type of deal the the the

00:21:16.800 keeping men out of women's sports that's even what 60 was 65 of that so overwhelmingly the people 0.70

00:21:25.520 support this so for carville to just kind of spit off uh this nonsense that the bottom is going to fall

00:21:31.360 out in 30 days i don't see it according to this polling and we're looking at it right now on your

00:21:36.560 screen uh even going down to uh banning uh or i should say ending bans on offshore drilling in alaska

00:21:44.160 and elsewhere that might be something that's almost the tightest one that's still 57 uh percent uh steve

00:21:50.640 approve of that so this polling i think is the most accurate we've seen so far uh on what the american

00:21:57.920 people feel about this and i shared this on the morning show this morning i'll share a quick story

00:22:03.280 for you i met two guys in the elevator going to work this morning that were on their way to the

00:22:08.640 office and they couldn't wait to check that email because they're like well do i have a job today am i

00:22:13.840 gonna have to uh you know send in my top five things that i'm attempting to do this week or today

00:22:21.440 but that's what the american people voted on on november 5th we want accountability in our government

00:22:25.680 and of course according to this harvard poll steve people want the same thing the only people who

00:22:31.120 don't want it are the the left the government uh people that have been riding uh i guess the

00:22:37.760 gravy train for way too long but the polls reflect how the people feel and uh it's pretty good right

00:22:44.560 now steve yeah i think i think you see direction let me just go with a couple of things through this

00:22:49.920 so the the ipsos poll had president trump upside down 51 percent disapproved 44 approved and like

00:22:56.720 i said we couldn't get to it i was going to talk about it today um because of cpac however this came

00:23:03.440 out and and as a counter in the harvard harris poll is a poll that's very highly thought of trump

00:23:09.760 approval 52 percent disapproval 43 plus nine brian just hits the high points 58 say he's doing better than

00:23:18.400 biden 81 support deporting criminal aliens 76 support eliminating waste fraud and abuse 76 support

00:23:26.160 closing the u.s border 70 support merit-based hiring 61 support reciprocal tariffs and 60 think doge

00:23:35.360 is helping now particularly when you get to the 76s of the 70s and 80s that's essentially

00:23:41.680 hardcore democrats who are never going to agree with anything with trump at least 25 that means

00:23:45.760 unanimity virtually unanimity among republicans and independents that's the key of these numbers

00:23:52.960 because it's very hard as you know people hey if you get 52 48 in an election it's a landslide

00:23:59.040 right because the country's so divided so if you get all the essentially all the independents right now

00:24:03.200 like what they see and i think people that are low information you know lower information they they

00:24:08.800 voted this time but they're not people that are going to watch the war room or come to real america's voice

00:24:13.920 there's just some people just not into politics or the types of things we cover even don't watch cnn

00:24:20.400 you see when they are polled they said hey i'm not following day to day but i like what i see and what

00:24:25.520 i like what i see is the energy of president trump and somebody that's in charge brian this is this

00:24:31.040 essentially what tim cook is telling us that it looks like leadership is now step back into the white house

00:24:38.160 leadership is in this in this government and for apple to make a half a trillion dollar 500 billion

00:24:44.400 dollar investment here and not in the uh in lower cost of areas at least for labor is a uh is uh is a

00:24:53.840 major massive step brian glenn your thoughts you're absolutely right steven i'll expand it to one more

00:25:01.840 the small business optimism the index that really tracks how small business owners view the next

00:25:08.400 12 months that's even at an all-time high right now so the optimism from the consumer level to the

00:25:14.800 business level is good and i'll continue this with the as far as the polling goes steve take a look at

00:25:20.480 what msnbc did with getting rid of joy reid they even know that they're on the wrong side of what the 0.85

00:25:29.040 american people right now are voting for and what they're standing for so they're even when you look 0.97

00:25:34.160 at the mainstream media they're even having to reshuffle a little bit of of what's important to

00:25:39.440 them as far as what they want to obviously they're pushing an agenda but the american people aren't

00:25:44.560 watching that they're not voting for that and of course i love those poll numbers and and it's nice

00:25:48.720 to see i was really kind of surprised steve how many people still feel like it's okay for men to play

00:25:54.480 women's sports i think it was what 33 35 percent there that that i will never understand but when

00:26:00.800 it comes to business and locking down the border and fighting crime those numbers are overwhelming

00:26:05.600 for trump brian glenn uh your social media where do people get you uh real america's voice will be

00:26:12.720 coming back during the charlie kirk show probably when macron officially uh arrives to and then brian will

00:26:19.840 be in the uh as brian always is uh he'll be in the um he'll be in the press avail and we'll have a

00:26:26.160 camera in there and then later at the press conference the water wall coverage of the white

00:26:29.600 house today brian how do people get you yeah i think you can find uh follow me at brian glenn tv

00:26:36.240 across the board you at brian on true social and brian glenn tv on getter as well thanks steve it's always

00:26:41.840 a pleasure to come on there and by the way we're still waiting for macron he must have a good time in

00:26:45.360 there with president trump if they're meeting right now or that phone call went a little bit long but

00:26:49.360 they're still inside waiting to leave uh so that's that's only a good sign i would think

00:26:55.600 well there's a lot to talk about we're gonna get ben harnwell and roman second drill down there's a lot

00:26:59.520 to talk about a whole lot to talk about right now with what's going on in europe what's going on with

00:27:04.320 russia what's going on with ukraine and particularly macron's the one that's talking about europe stepping

00:27:08.560 up and defending themselves this time they did it so brian glenn thank you very much sir

00:27:14.160 thank you macron's south of the way is brian it's quite unusual i don't think i've ever seen

00:27:20.000 a head of state showing up early to do a call essentially from probably a more secure location

00:27:26.000 and to make sure that he was there with president trump and this call went down

00:27:31.600 details on that later brian right there talking about joy and reed our favorite

00:27:37.760 let go by uh msnbc last night our entire staff i think they were told they were let go also

00:27:43.440 but the buried lead is the show that's kind of the counter to war room on saturday mornings

00:27:50.960 and you know we play a lot of clips on called the weekend with uh simone who's uh bernie sanders

00:27:56.960 comm director michael steel the old head of the um or the former head of the rnc a guy i know pretty

00:28:03.120 well and uh menendez's daughter does a good job she's one that she's one of the sit-in anchors 0.99

00:28:08.400 that said they have a show called the weekend that's replacing joy and reed and the way i read

00:28:13.360 it it was kind of the way i read that might actually be a two-hour show starting i think

00:28:18.640 at seven o'clock on msnbc msnbc trying to do the counter to the war room

00:28:23.040 good luck with that joy and reed and her wigs 1.00

00:28:30.320 gone unbelievable rome next frank gaffney with us hot monday in the war room

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00:29:53.120 uh i'm gonna bring ben harnwell in while we're on the subject of france um the other day when i gave

00:29:58.800 that wave to the audience after the i quite frankly the epic speech i gave at cpac because the speech was

00:30:06.240 about you because the media is there the whole world's there to see you to get enough of president

00:30:12.400 trump trust me president trump's gonna have him in the oval today for a presser he'll be blowing

00:30:17.360 them up as he did all weekend he'll then uh he'll then have a press conference in the east wing in the

00:30:23.600 east room excuse the east room the beautiful east room with macron and he'll blow them up again and 0.70

00:30:30.080 he'll send out i don't know half a dozen true socials that makes their heads blow up the one he put out

00:30:35.760 out last night was on dan bongino world went to meltdown dan bongino deputy director of the fbi he

00:30:41.440 runs the building cash runs the bureau pretty amazing so uh the guy the number two guy

00:30:49.440 at uh national rally front national bardella actually canceled his coming to cpac to give a speech now a

00:30:57.440 lot of people had said um he didn't want to give it you know le pen's trying to promote him because

00:31:02.800 they're um oh let's go let's go right now let's cut there get the whole screen let's go that's

00:31:10.000 right now yeah okay fine so he came this is unusual he came early this morning

00:31:18.320 there was no official greeting thanks i'd love that camera coverage right there um and what you had

00:31:23.760 there's walking out he came to have a call a g7 call this g7 call is about the peace negotiations

00:31:32.720 uh peace process for for ukraine right for ukraine and uh i'm sure mccrone wanted to be in the room

00:31:41.440 mccrone's kind of taking the leadership of this of saying hey europe's got to be at the table and

00:31:45.280 ukraine's got to be at the table i i don't buy that i think the framework's got to be set up between

00:31:51.200 russia and the united states and it's a bigger framework this is something many of us have worked

00:31:56.000 on for years i met actually with uh dugan in rome after i left the white house the year after i left

00:32:02.240 the white house to talk about this very topic about the chinese communist party and how important it was

00:32:07.680 to have russia in america and some sort of understanding particularly on the eurasian land

00:32:13.120 mass of the dangers of the chinese communist party and what the what uh uh the moves by the chinese 0.95

00:32:18.880 communist party for uh dominance not just in east asia but in all the eurasian land mass

00:32:25.920 was going to mean for the detriment of mankind so president trump i think is setting that framework

00:32:32.160 now in that framework of the relationship comes this you know scott best and president trump working on

00:32:38.400 this minerals deal as part of it today what you're seeing is mccrone wants europe to have a

00:32:44.320 seat at the table and president trump's being very magnanimous i'm sure he's going to include

00:32:47.760 him in some some way but he patience ran out with zelinski and president trump echoed i think

00:32:53.760 what we've been saying on this show for a long time zelinski has no cards without the united states

00:32:59.040 writing a massive check right which we cannot do and without uh us sending tons of arms and

00:33:06.080 eventually a security guarantee which means u.s troops that they don't really have a bargaining

00:33:11.200 position i hate to be so brutally frank about it and people got to come to that realization pete

00:33:15.120 hegseth i think brilliantly summed it up when he was in uh when he was in brussels and they

00:33:20.400 got all over pete it's an amateur he doesn't know what he's doing well we saw what you guys did and

00:33:25.280 we got a million dead or wounded ukrainians in a in a destroyed country and president trump's kind of

00:33:30.480 obsessed with the destruction and the bloodshed it just wants it to stop and he's going to make it stop

00:33:36.000 and this is what leadership's about what i'm not particularly excited about is any kind of ongoing

00:33:42.960 commitment into ukraine and quite frankly the minerals i'm sure the minerals great but there's

00:33:47.040 minerals all over the world it's an opportunity cost i just think you let macron and these guys the big

00:33:52.560 talkers in europe let them do it and uh and we move on because following the apple announcement there's so

00:34:01.200 much more we have to do here in the united states and i don't think it's quite dawned on people uh how

00:34:08.480 tough a situation we're going to have on doing these cuts to the federal budget remember that's

00:34:13.680 still what's driving inflation and we have we're having a keynesian stimulus massively every day from

00:34:19.840 the federal government and running still historical deficits in this year given everything we know

00:34:26.240 in doge in doge and scott besson said it's 55 billion the first the first month hey i'm all for

00:34:33.440 that if that's waste foreign abuse on this one i'm from missouri and i gotta see it because the analysis

00:34:39.040 in politico in the wall street journal i think has been pretty solid may not be perfect but they're

00:34:44.000 saying hey the number could be a third of that or only 25 of that we need real cash savings i think there

00:34:51.200 is waste foreign abuse obviously we gotta get to the bottom of that but i still say and i will

00:34:56.480 continue to harp on this we're kidding ourselves until you start thinking of programs it's programmatic

00:35:01.360 and billets not individual just bodies it's billets and programs programs and billets you have to do you

00:35:10.240 have to do less you can't do this the government should be just doing should be shrunk and do the

00:35:15.280 following and right now in a time of economic distress particularly among the working class because

00:35:21.040 guess what you invited 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens here to compete with them at the 0.95

00:35:26.800 lower skilled levels or unskilled levels to drive their wages down and drive their opportunities down

00:35:31.360 and of course you've got every one of these phony bogus visa programs like h1b visas to crush

00:35:39.440 the the the tech workers and others so programs like medicaid are much more spread out than they were

00:35:46.240 before you want to know a warning shot you want to know a warning flare look at when they put

00:35:50.640 the memo out russ vote and the team pay a letter put the memo out from omb and maybe it wasn't a

00:35:56.240 perfect memo but directionally you can tell what they're trying to do hey we just got here we want

00:36:00.800 to have a short moratorium on all payments until we know we're cashed in the system and the system

00:36:05.840 melted down and what really melted down was the republican congressmen who start with doral having

00:36:11.520 their meeting and started getting blown up on the phone by people back in their districts hey

00:36:15.680 i supply the sandwiches for meals on wheels right i need to be paid my point is these cuts because

00:36:22.800 of what we've done are going to be significant and they're going to be painful and who can take

00:36:28.800 political pain we're going to find out but that pain has to be a shared pain and right now i don't

00:36:36.000 know if it's the best time to be throughout the world with massive development projects a deal for

00:36:41.440 ukraine and i understand what president trump's saying he's tired of like in iraq and afghanistan

00:36:47.120 we put nine trillion dollars over 20 years and you walk away with nothing none of the mineral rights

00:36:53.600 in afghanistan the chinese have those none of the oil rights or access some sort of special deal

00:37:00.960 special development deal on the oil and gas you have nothing and i believe correct me if i'm wrong i

00:37:08.000 believe the europeans money came in as kind of loans the way i think their money came in very

00:37:11.920 differently than ours went into ukraine at least according to president trump i think the structure

00:37:17.520 of their money and quite frankly in the cap table they may actually be higher

00:37:22.000 because biden these guys to cover up the sins that they had victoria newland in this crowd 0.99

00:37:27.760 of the color revolution we're just throwing cash at it and also all the dark secrets of ukraine 0.97

00:37:32.800 i also think ukraine kind of the bloodlines it's it's a cursed part of the world we shouldn't be 1.00

00:37:38.320 there it's it's bad news bad vibe just move on and if macron's there and that's why it's quite

00:37:45.680 unusual macron's there at eight o'clock in the morning they're having a joint called the g7

00:37:50.320 and you know maybe it's for security although the french embassy should be secure enough maybe

00:37:54.400 he just wanted to be there sit there president trump president trump said okay because it was there

00:37:58.720 but crone's now left that's the footage jesus saw and uh and he will come back shortly afternoon ben

00:38:04.960 harnwell our favorite topic ukraine particularly over the weekend the the the although they're

00:38:11.440 they're trashing it that this is america being mercenary there's nothing more than the europeans

00:38:16.240 and quite frankly the ukrainian oligarchs want than the united states to be somehow economically

00:38:22.240 involved in ukraine and and some of the wording that's come out of bloomberg is quite disturbing

00:38:26.240 we're looking we're we are looking to work with them to secure a long-term peace uh you know and

00:38:32.320 prosperity i mean hey i don't know president excuse me president trump and trying to work something out

00:38:39.200 with the russians is taking the big picture here but man it is i just think this ukraine the more you

00:38:45.600 get involved with zelency in this crowd the worse it's going to be although the structure of it is that 1.00

00:38:51.440 the ukrainians can't take any money everything comes from their side the minerals our side to develop

00:38:56.160 on their side all the cash they get is specifically target for redevelopment of the country your

00:39:02.400 thoughts sir good morning steve well we're assisting today watching history in the making it's definitely

00:39:09.040 a pivot point um and in terms of just watching the show earlier and seeing welcoming this 500 billion

00:39:15.920 development from apple it is steve jobs would have been his 70th anniversary today not the only

00:39:21.200 anniversary however that's overshadowed by the third anniversary of the war in ukraine that's today

00:39:26.320 24th of february year of our lord 2025 three years of unnecessary war today i have to pick up on one

00:39:33.920 thing i've got three things to say today talking about ukraine the afd um and macron the white house

00:39:40.080 and these three things are all related but i must pick up on one thing that you mentioned just before in

00:39:45.520 your monologue um i'm not sure whether president trump is actually right to suggest that zelensky

00:39:52.480 or the ukrainian regime itself have um have no cards left i think they have one card i'm not saying it's

00:39:59.120 likely that they would play it um but they should they could use it and that's just instead of selling

00:40:04.560 out to the united states and u.s oligarchs they could sell out to china they could pivot be a very dramatic

00:40:11.920 pivot um but seeing as there aren't any elections there at the moment they could pivot to china and

00:40:17.520 say look we'll give you the rights uh ostensibly um for the reconstruction redevelopment of ukraine

00:40:26.160 and we've always said for three years that the real drift is going to come in the rebuilding of

00:40:30.160 ukraine they could sell sell out to china i'm not suggesting it's likely but given us sensibilities

00:40:37.520 right now it's a card that they could play um okay so let's look at the afd big big news yesterday

00:40:44.240 in germany the federal elections um and the afd did reasonably well i practically doubled its vote

00:40:51.840 its percentage of the vote from about 10.3 to 19 and a half percent that's a huge success which

00:40:59.520 whichever way you look at it it's not the 25 that some people were forecasting but what this does mean

00:41:05.920 steve is that the afd the alternative for deutschland together with the defeated social democratic party

00:41:13.040 the party of olaf schultz the outgoing chancellor these now have a blocking uh minority and they can

00:41:19.680 stop constitutional changes technically germany doesn't have a constitution as a basic law but it's

00:41:26.160 already in discussion having that basic law amended to allow germany to take on more debt to finance

00:41:33.120 ukraine the left i know i've got to give away for a break steve but the the left have already said

00:41:38.640 that they will only countenance changes to the constitution in taking on more debt if that money

00:41:44.080 goes in to infrastructure spending they're not about to spend more money on ukraine

00:41:52.160 um i tell you what we're going to do let's go to a um do we let's let's go ahead and play miles we

00:41:57.840 we take a quick break here we're going to return in a moment on war room let's go ahead and take the uh

00:42:03.840 let's go and play the play the song let's go we'll be back in a moment

00:42:06.960 take it down

00:42:26.960 take it down

00:42:34.960 everything's just beginning but the games you want to play bring it on and now we'll fight to the

00:42:48.320 end just watch and see it's all started everything's begun and you are over

00:42:55.120 we'll be back in a moment

00:42:57.120 because we're taking down the ccp 1.00

00:42:59.120 spread the word all through hong kong we will fight till they're all gone 1.00

00:43:05.120 we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp 1.00

00:43:09.120 they have all liked for too long we will end what they do wrong

00:43:15.120 spread the word all through hong kong let's take down the ccp 1.00

00:43:19.120 if the bullets fly a little longer

00:43:33.120 and you will surrender

00:43:35.120 we will have freedom to live we will when you surrender

00:43:39.120 let the bullets fly a little longer

00:43:41.120 let the bullets fly a little longer

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00:44:59.620 Does the deal include security helping to secure Ukraine?

00:45:06.840 And do you expect Zelensky to sign it?

00:45:10.000 I do expect that President Zelensky will sign.

00:45:13.760 It does not—what it does not include is a military guarantee.

00:45:17.140 But what it does include is an implicit guarantee that if the United States of America

00:45:22.740 is heavily invested in the economic future—you know, I call it an economic security guarantee.

00:45:28.640 The more assets that U.S. companies have on the ground,

00:45:33.100 the bigger interest that the U.S. has in the future of Ukrainian economy doing well,

00:45:39.900 the more security it creates for the Ukrainian people,

00:45:43.100 and the higher the return for the U.S. taxpayer.

00:45:46.560 Again, you know, President Trump has structured this win-win deal,

00:45:50.380 and it's unfortunate that, you know, after my meeting with President Zelensky

00:45:54.820 and then his meeting in Munich with Vice President Vance, Secretary of State Rubio,

00:46:00.980 the idea here of my trip to Ukraine and then the meeting in Munich,

00:46:06.060 we want to intertwine the U.S. and Ukrainian economies for the benefit of both.

00:46:12.400 And unfortunately, President Zelensky seems to have put a bit of daylight between us.

00:46:17.600 But I am sure in the long run, or in the short run, there is no daylight.

00:46:22.220 The deal will be signed, and this will give President Trump a lever,

00:46:27.060 and it will be a strong signal to Russian leadership

00:46:30.580 that the U.S. is in a serious partnership with the Ukrainian people.

00:46:35.460 President Zelensky is speaking right now, saying today that he was willing to give up his position

00:46:41.420 if it meant peace in Ukraine, quipping that he could exchange his departure for Ukraine's entry

00:46:47.360 into NATO. Zelensky also says he wanted to see Donald Trump as a partner to Ukraine

00:46:52.360 and more than simply a mediator between Kyiv and Moscow.

00:46:55.520 I want it to be more than just mediation. That's not enough, he told a press conference just moments

00:46:59.940 ago. Your reaction? Is this also suggesting that there could be a change in leadership in Ukraine?

00:47:06.080 You know, Maria, I try to stay in my economics and finance lane.

00:47:11.600 So this is the first that I've heard about it.

00:47:15.460 But at some point, Ukrainian people, it's a democracy.

00:47:19.500 They're going to have an election, and they will democratically elect a leader.

00:47:24.880 President Zelensky has been a wartime president.

00:47:28.120 And, you know, we've seen in the history of this, Winston Churchill is a fantastic wartime

00:47:33.840 leader. And then the British people decided to move on after he had done a great job during

00:47:39.900 World War II.

00:47:42.020 Welcome back, folks. I'm just going to finish off with the point that I was making just

00:47:46.160 before the break. But following on from what U.S. Secretary, Treasury Secretary Scott

00:47:52.140 is saying that. I caution the war room posse not to be too invested in these arguments about

00:48:00.200 entwining, to quote him, the U.S. economy and Ukrainian economy, because it's not so much

00:48:05.980 the entwining of economies that I think the posse is interested in. It's the entwining of

00:48:12.780 the military infrastructures. And this show has been absolutely constant here for three years

00:48:19.880 on this issue. The U.S. military, the United States must disengage from Ukraine rather

00:48:25.980 than look for excuses and pretext to bind itself ever further in. And that's exactly what Treasury

00:48:32.820 Secretary Besson is doing. He's providing a pretext, a visible pretext for behind the

00:48:39.160 scenes further investment. Why do I say this, Denver? If you'd be very kind and put up the

00:48:44.180 second asset with which you have a headline, Zelensky says U.S. mineral deal.

00:48:49.880 Must include military guarantees. There we have it. That's from the Mining Weekly publication.

00:48:57.320 They know exactly what this is all about. The idea that you can use the term security

00:49:03.200 guarantees or you can use the modern lingo that's just been introduced over the last seven

00:49:07.860 or so days, a backstop. Whatever jargon you want to use, the point here is that the U.S.

00:49:15.320 military is not going to be allowed to disengage. And in fact, talking about the U.S. military,

00:49:22.120 you know, and I'll hand over to Steve in just a moment on this, someone who did wear the U.S.

00:49:28.120 military uniform when he was a young guy, as did his daughter, as did a number of members of his

00:49:32.960 family. My own brother was in the U.K. Navy as a career engineer in the Navy. The point about,

00:49:43.740 I think, for young people, putting on military uniform is a manifestation of the absolute 0.97

00:49:51.600 heroism and patriotism that a citizen is capable of showing for their own country, for their country.

00:49:59.160 That's why we call these things ministries of defense rather than offense. The issue here for

00:50:05.120 using, as this headline points out, military guarantees about U.S. soldiers in an area of

00:50:11.440 which the U.S. has no vital national interest is that these soldiers are just being used here

00:50:18.380 by billionaires to defend America's interests. They're effectively, and I use the term advisedly

00:50:27.860 here, but the U.S. military is effectively being prostituted out to act not as a national defense

00:50:34.420 force for a country, but as mercenaries. That's exactly what we're talking about here. We're

00:50:39.660 talking about the U.S. military being provided as a mercenary force to protect the interest

00:50:45.660 of American oligarchs going into Ukraine for the apparently trillions of dollars worth of

00:50:54.860 of infrastructure there. It's absolutely not acceptable. And to some extent, I would use

00:50:58.860 the word betrayal. It's a betrayal of what this movement, the MAGA movement, the America First

00:51:04.220 movement is founded on. And I'll tell you why I use such a heavy word as betrayal, because this is

00:51:09.820 exactly the same logic that was used to employ the first Gulf War and the second Gulf War as

00:51:16.300 justification. We all know that was about oil. The first Gulf War, Bush 41 and Dick Cheney,

00:51:23.740 second Gulf War, Bush 43, Dick Cheney again, Liz Cheney's beloved father, and Donald Rumsfeld. The whole

00:51:31.180 point about that was to create stability in the oil market because America is an exporter of oil.

00:51:38.780 And I cannot think of an American presidency, an American administration more hated and loathed,

00:51:46.460 even by its own members than the Bush dynasty, the Bush family dynasty. And it is tragic to see some

00:51:53.660 people in the orbit around Donald Trump using exactly the same arguments that the neocoms were using 0.63

00:52:02.300 in the 90s. And in the first decade of this millennium, using exactly the same arguments to justify

00:52:11.900 exactly the same thing in a different country, Ukraine, of which I repeat, America has no national

00:52:18.220 vital interest. If there are minerals and rare earths buried largely, mostly in the Donbass and the

00:52:26.460 Russian-occupied part of Ukraine, then any country can trade with them. That's how things are done. 0.82

00:52:32.700 It's enough of the war and enough of the pretext. This movement has been absolutely clear from the

00:52:39.660 start. America needs to disengage from Ukraine. Okay, stay tuned, folks. We'll be back after this 0.99

00:52:48.300 short break in just a couple of moments.

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