Episode 4291: AFD Makes Massive Grounds In German Election; Macron At The White House
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In this episode, we discuss the rise of the AfD party in Germany and the impact it can have on the country's political landscape. We also discuss the new government in place in the United States, the Apple announcement, and the deal between the U.S. and Ukraine.
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now um the rise of the afd in fact you spent time in germany you even attended at least one of their
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rallies you did a deep dive that's on the atlantic site now uh a must read um tell us a little bit
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about what you learned there and in the party's new and growing role in that country and the main
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thing i learned was that the afd was aiming its fire at the cdu at the center right i mean that
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the afd was saying the center right which just won this election has to be destroyed totally
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dismantled that they invoked trump they invoked elon musk and they said they they led the way that
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they destroyed the gop as it existed before and we're going to do this same thing to the cdu now
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the cdu having won it looks like a victory for them but the afd also measures their victories in
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different ways too so getting one in five german voters for them was a huge victory because it
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meant that they couldn't be ignored in the future so what what they might be shut out of government
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they're very likely to be shut out of government but what they were afraid of was that they would
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have a showing that would be poor enough that they could actually be be banned as a party be
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investigated by law enforcement and what they've got is is a showing that makes it impossible for
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them to be completely ignored politically this apple announcement this morning which just popped
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6 a.m eastern all the details are up the weed story on axios this is a landmark story for a couple of
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reasons one the effort by the president to bring manufacturing back to the u.s this is a massive
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commitment to that and as we say in our story this gives trump the leverage to say to other companies
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apple can do this apple is bringing these jobs in the into the u.s apple is investing in the u.s why
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can't you why won't you and the statement out this morning from apple ceo tim cook talking about
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being bullish on the future of america talking about writing a extraordinary new chapter in the
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history of american innovation so that's one bucket two there's an incredible footprint for
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this this is all across the united states and it's part of the big story that axis has been telling
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that it's no longer just the coast look at where some of these big investments are the swing states
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of arizona michigan uh pennsylvania north carolina nevada red states the massive investment that you
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were talking about in texas a big uh innovation lab in michigan so a footprint all across uh the country
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and third if you look at how the u.s is going to have a sustained recovery it's going to be about
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building things making things doing that more in the u.s this is a big step toward that can you walk
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us through the negotiations that you are having right now to tap into not just these rare earth
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minerals but also oil in ukraine what can you tell us where does the deal stand so maria as you said
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earlier i traveled to kiev about 10 days ago and met with president zelensky
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and this deal is part of president trump's long arc negotiating strategy for peace between ukraine
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and russia and to let the ukrainians get back the to you know a peaceful existence so the first part of
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this is a partnership between ukraine and the u.s that involves strategic minerals energy and state-owned
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enterprises where we set up a partnership and we are only looking forward we it is a win-win president
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trump they have created this idea himself it is a win-win we make money if the ukrainian people make
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money and i believe that with the united states of america our know-how our our business is willing to
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come in and provide capital that we can accelerate the ukrainian growth trajectory and take in substantial
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monies for the u.s taxpayers and get you the ukrainian economy on a growth great growth trajectory um
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you know how do you foresee the role they'll play going forward now with this new government in place
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in germany so i think you can look at some of the states where they've been very popular so i was in the
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state of turingia one of the places where they've been most popular in the past and in fact in state
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parliament they won a plurality of votes there but they were not in government because all the other
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parties joined a coalition against them and made them um just shut them out so what was the effect
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of that supporters of the afd were angrier than ever they their their view was even when we win we
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lose so now that they haven't um you know that got enough of a share of the federal parliament to
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actually be in in government to be most likely in government any coalition they're still going to
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feel like they've been shut out so i i feel like this is sort of a reckoning postponed with the
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afd and the rise of the far right in germany because their their supporters are going to look
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at their fairly strong showing a stronger showing than ever before and see that they're still being
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shut out and that's going to make them mad and whenever the next reckoning comes the real reckoning
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it's going to be pretty severe this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies
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because we're going to medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying
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about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you
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try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
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and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
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save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bant
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it's monday 24 february year of early 2025 uh once again there are
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there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks and months in which decades happen
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and president trump um continuing on in the uh days of thunder years of lightning
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pretty extraordinary uh something but i think every it's not that we missed we didn't have time to
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cover it on saturday morning show at cpac we had somebody the uh the posse there i want to thank
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everybody that assisted this and putting on obviously real america voice the uh blow away
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success of the force multiplier academy on wednesday we had a massive turnout i don't know five six hundred
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people pretty extraordinary in the team grace mo uh jane everybody natalie did such an amazing job
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and jack basova everybody pitching in um and of course harry the team at real america voice it was so
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successful we're going to be making some announcements we're going to be rolling that out
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and taking it on the road throughout the country because um there's a huge demand for it and i think
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now we can uh we are kind of clicking on how it's actually presented and every time we give new and
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better information and people are um want to be on the ramparts and they want to be completely weaponized
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in this fight and so we're here to do it at the war room so much big news the one eclipse and i'm in there
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there dan bongino friend and colleague dan met dan years ago with andrew brightbard over a decade ago
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dan ran for um congress out in western maryland then he ran for the senate maryland then he ran for
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congress down in um in um uh florida he got into uh broadcasting uh enormously successful a great guy
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and uh a law enforcement guy dan bongino is the deputy to cash patel at the fbi let me repeat that
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running the fbi is cash patel and dan bongino uh there are going to be some significant changes
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to the fbi and i think dan is the perfect guy to help uh initiate some of these investigations we
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talked about on j6 and other things um here but he would be fantastic so so much news there so much
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news internally also elon sent out this uh email on saturday night about people having to respond
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and of course cash uh pete hagsworth defense tulsi at dni i think ratcliffe over at the cia
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uh and uh senator marco rubio secretary of state came back and said hey we'll we'll take care of this
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ourselves appreciate the effort but our people are not going to be sending you or your junior guys
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a um uh you know five things they did last week uh we'll handle this so i think you're seeing the
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the doge thing and you know the house is putting up this kind of reconciliation budget
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it's got a lot of issues a ton of issues like where's the beef where are the cuts and um
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the doge right now there's a bunch of articles about are the cuts really there here's what we need
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we need elon to be more and more and more focused on the waste fraud and abuse and we need somebody
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to start talking about programmatically and here's where this gets back to this uh you saw scott
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besson our own scott besson they're talking about the ukraine deal if you add all this what's happened
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in the last 72 hours about investments president trump signs this america first investment uh policy
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executive order on friday it is the most it is the clearest i think example and there's some
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interpretation there we got to firm up but it's the clearest example of the decoupling
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of uh of the us from the ccp remember an unrestricted warfare one of my favorite books written by the two
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chinese then colonels became generals later part of the unrestricted warfare is economic warfare and they've
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been in economic war with us for many many decades that economic war underwritten by wall street and
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um exacerbated by silicon valley and the tech transfer that's gone on willingly you're seeing
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that pull back now you you've got to look at this signing of this document gaffney will be here to break
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it down for us that really restricts investments into uh into china into the chinese and particularly
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anything associated with the chinese communist party it's kind of the reverse of what they did
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to pompeo pottinger navarre and myself when they fully sanctioned us and said you know you can't be
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associated with any ccp company or any chinese company you can't be you can't go to china be
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associated it's fine if that's what it takes to help free the lao baijing but president trump dropped
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the hammer on this investment and this is the clearest indication and there's a lot of back channel
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about chat about what's going on the deals are being cut and who's doing what with president
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trump on china but this was at least a very clear kind of directional that we're going to decouple
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on top of that apple with this 500 billion dollar investment 20 000 jobs and as mike allen and axios
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just said walked you through it's not on the coast this is not centered on california
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or any of the tech centers like in boston and route 128 this is this is uh very much uh in the
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heartland of the country look what apple's doing to bring manufacturing back to bring innovation back
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um this is the issue i've got with the ukraine ukraine you see scott and president i
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strategically you see what president trump's trying to do i just think
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it's getting us more and more and more to this ukraine situation ukraine situation is something
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that is uh is to me should be totally europe and uh we're gonna be pretty adamant about that
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we have brian glenn at the white house ben harnwell's with us in rome frank gaffney's
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gonna join us in a moment a lot to go through let's go to brian glenn brian pretty extraordinary
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day uh macron actually showed up early so he could go to the situation room and do a call
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with g7 country so macron the president of france actually came early to the white house no ceremony
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no official greeting no actually greeting at all just showed up and went to the situation room did
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a call or they i guess the schedule said the oval office did a call on the g7 now correct me if i'm
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wrong he's left and he's coming back to the white house later for it's not a state visit but a working
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visit to be greeted shortly after noon and actually sit with president trump the rest of the
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rest of the uh the bulk of the day correct yeah good morning steve that is absolutely correct and
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also let me step aside real quick and i'll show you kind of what's going on right now uh he is still
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in uh the west wing he has not left yet you see the motorcade is pulled up front that first car
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that's the vehicle he will get in and of course there's a press vehicle uh next to it that longer
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van uh but you're right he got here shortly before eight o'clock uh had the uh phone call the g7 phone
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call uh he is now waiting to go back uh to their residence here just outside the white house and
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and as you said steve is coming back at around just uh 12 35 i think is tentatively when they have it
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scheduled where he's going to have this uh kind of a bilateral meeting if you will in the oval office
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we'll be on the ground there as well steve then of course at two o'clock yeah yeah at two o'clock
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there's a press conference with trump and macron and all of us will bring it to you live as it happens
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brian hangover a second pretty unusual so the president of france came early
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with the president do a call g7 call obviously very secured very secure call he's still there he's
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scheduled to leave and then come back at about 12 15 i think it is been then be greeted by the
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president over as the the one we've been showing the west wing um access that less formal uh entry
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point he'll be with the president they'll probably brian get you guys in the oval office for some sort
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of press avail then at two o'clock i think it's in the east room they're gonna have a uh one of the
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formal those press conferences that president trump does so well very active day at the white house
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uh talking about ukraine war and peace and prosperity all of it and president trump's on a
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roll making deals the master deal maker making deals short commercial break brian glint at the
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white house ben harnwell in rome frank gaffney's gonna join us we'll return with dan bongino the
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six a.m eastern all the details are up the weed story on axios this is a landmark story for a couple
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of reasons one the effort by the president to bring manufacturing back to the u.s this is a massive
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commitment to that and as we say in our story this gives trump the leverage to say to other companies
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apple can do this apple is bringing these jobs in the into the u.s apple is investing in the u.s why can't you
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why won't you and the statement out this morning from apple ceo tim cook talking about being bullish
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on the future of america talking about writing a extraordinary new chapter in the history of
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american innovation so that's one bucket two there's an incredible footprint for this this is all across
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the united states and it's part of the big story that axis has been telling that it's no longer just the
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coast look at where some of these big investments are the swing states of arizona michigan uh pennsylvania
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north carolina nevada red states the massive investment that you were talking about in texas a big uh
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uh innovation lab in michigan so a footprint all across uh the country and third if you look at how the
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u.s is going to have a sustained recovery it's going to be about building things making things
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doing that more in the u.s this is a big step toward that
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okay uh mike allen over at um axios kind of blockbuster news this morning also there's been
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some so apple 500 billion dollars 20 000 jobs in the heartland of the country from arizona to
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you know all over not just putting it into silicon valley or the west coast
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or seattle profound big news now obviously it's in the details but this is in the in apple tim cook
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or tim apple as he's known to the president couldn't be more effusive in his support of a new day in
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america and a new energy the unleashing of animal spirits i think you'd couple that with the america
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first investment initiative executive order that really went after hey we're decoupling from china
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i mean i read this as the beginning of of really president trump coming down on the side of those
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of us that have been hardcore about decoupling and uh you add that to even his strategy and look i
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think that ukraine sunk cost and we just want to move on but you see the deal maker right he's on
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a rolls also the white house putting out today of all these investments look i'm not a fan of
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foreign capital coming into the country i'm just not but president trump's looking at his barometer
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of people that want to invest in the united states of america on his watch and that on that i think it's
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very positive brian glenn and brian we've had some you know a little choppy on some of the polling
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ipsos had a poll out last week that we didn't get a chance to get to it because we're at cpac but it
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showed um president trump's approval rating disapprove 51 approval 44 that's the first one i've seen like
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that james carvel brian as you know came out yesterday not that he's done a very good job of
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being a uh a forecaster but he said in 30 days president trump's uh entire bottom of his polling
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is going to fall out uh because of what elon musk is doing over doge but this morning harvard harris so
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the harvard poll uh came out and they're pretty blow away numbers brian glenn can you walk us through
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it because it shows i think we can say brian harvard is showing us that their poll overwhelming support
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for president the direction of president trump's actions and the direction of the days of thunder sir
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yeah you're absolutely right if you take a look at what the numbers even reflect with let's start with
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deport the deportation of illegal criminals or illegals that have come in this country and even committed
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crime you've got what 81 percent or for that you go down down the line of undertaking you know ultimate
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fraud and waste in government exactly what elon musk is doing 70 per six percent of that now if
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even if you turn to the uh some of the uh more uh you know public policy type of deal the the the
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keeping men out of women's sports that's even what 60 was 65 of that so overwhelmingly the people
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support this so for carville to just kind of spit off uh this nonsense that the bottom is going to fall
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out in 30 days i don't see it according to this polling and we're looking at it right now on your
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screen uh even going down to uh banning uh or i should say ending bans on offshore drilling in alaska
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and elsewhere that might be something that's almost the tightest one that's still 57 uh percent uh steve
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approve of that so this polling i think is the most accurate we've seen so far uh on what the american
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people feel about this and i shared this on the morning show this morning i'll share a quick story
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for you i met two guys in the elevator going to work this morning that were on their way to the
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office and they couldn't wait to check that email because they're like well do i have a job today am i
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gonna have to uh you know send in my top five things that i'm attempting to do this week or today
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but that's what the american people voted on on november 5th we want accountability in our government
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and of course according to this harvard poll steve people want the same thing the only people who
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don't want it are the the left the government uh people that have been riding uh i guess the
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gravy train for way too long but the polls reflect how the people feel and uh it's pretty good right
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now steve yeah i think i think you see direction let me just go with a couple of things through this
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so the the ipsos poll had president trump upside down 51 percent disapproved 44 approved and like
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i said we couldn't get to it i was going to talk about it today um because of cpac however this came
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out and and as a counter in the harvard harris poll is a poll that's very highly thought of trump
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approval 52 percent disapproval 43 plus nine brian just hits the high points 58 say he's doing better than
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biden 81 support deporting criminal aliens 76 support eliminating waste fraud and abuse 76 support
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closing the u.s border 70 support merit-based hiring 61 support reciprocal tariffs and 60 think doge
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is helping now particularly when you get to the 76s of the 70s and 80s that's essentially
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hardcore democrats who are never going to agree with anything with trump at least 25 that means
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unanimity virtually unanimity among republicans and independents that's the key of these numbers
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because it's very hard as you know people hey if you get 52 48 in an election it's a landslide
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right because the country's so divided so if you get all the essentially all the independents right now
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like what they see and i think people that are low information you know lower information they they
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voted this time but they're not people that are going to watch the war room or come to real america's voice
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there's just some people just not into politics or the types of things we cover even don't watch cnn
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you see when they are polled they said hey i'm not following day to day but i like what i see and what
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i like what i see is the energy of president trump and somebody that's in charge brian this is this
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essentially what tim cook is telling us that it looks like leadership is now step back into the white house
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leadership is in this in this government and for apple to make a half a trillion dollar 500 billion
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dollar investment here and not in the uh in lower cost of areas at least for labor is a uh is uh is a
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major massive step brian glenn your thoughts you're absolutely right steven i'll expand it to one more
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the small business optimism the index that really tracks how small business owners view the next
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12 months that's even at an all-time high right now so the optimism from the consumer level to the
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business level is good and i'll continue this with the as far as the polling goes steve take a look at
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what msnbc did with getting rid of joy reid they even know that they're on the wrong side of what the
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american people right now are voting for and what they're standing for so they're even when you look
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at the mainstream media they're even having to reshuffle a little bit of of what's important to
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them as far as what they want to obviously they're pushing an agenda but the american people aren't
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watching that they're not voting for that and of course i love those poll numbers and and it's nice
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to see i was really kind of surprised steve how many people still feel like it's okay for men to play
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women's sports i think it was what 33 35 percent there that that i will never understand but when
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it comes to business and locking down the border and fighting crime those numbers are overwhelming
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for trump brian glenn uh your social media where do people get you uh real america's voice will be
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coming back during the charlie kirk show probably when macron officially uh arrives to and then brian will
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be in the uh as brian always is uh he'll be in the um he'll be in the press avail and we'll have a
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camera in there and then later at the press conference the water wall coverage of the white
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house today brian how do people get you yeah i think you can find uh follow me at brian glenn tv
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across the board you at brian on true social and brian glenn tv on getter as well thanks steve it's always
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a pleasure to come on there and by the way we're still waiting for macron he must have a good time in
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there with president trump if they're meeting right now or that phone call went a little bit long but
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they're still inside waiting to leave uh so that's that's only a good sign i would think
00:26:55.600
well there's a lot to talk about we're gonna get ben harnwell and roman second drill down there's a lot
00:26:59.520
to talk about a whole lot to talk about right now with what's going on in europe what's going on with
00:27:04.320
russia what's going on with ukraine and particularly macron's the one that's talking about europe stepping
00:27:08.560
up and defending themselves this time they did it so brian glenn thank you very much sir
00:27:14.160
thank you macron's south of the way is brian it's quite unusual i don't think i've ever seen
00:27:20.000
a head of state showing up early to do a call essentially from probably a more secure location
00:27:26.000
and to make sure that he was there with president trump and this call went down
00:27:31.600
details on that later brian right there talking about joy and reed our favorite
00:27:37.760
let go by uh msnbc last night our entire staff i think they were told they were let go also
00:27:43.440
but the buried lead is the show that's kind of the counter to war room on saturday mornings
00:27:50.960
and you know we play a lot of clips on called the weekend with uh simone who's uh bernie sanders
00:27:56.960
comm director michael steel the old head of the um or the former head of the rnc a guy i know pretty
00:28:03.120
well and uh menendez's daughter does a good job she's one that she's one of the sit-in anchors
00:28:08.400
that said they have a show called the weekend that's replacing joy and reed and the way i read
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the crisis is here here's your host stephen k band
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uh i'm gonna bring ben harnwell in while we're on the subject of france um the other day when i gave
00:29:58.800
that wave to the audience after the i quite frankly the epic speech i gave at cpac because the speech was
00:30:06.240
about you because the media is there the whole world's there to see you to get enough of president
00:30:12.400
trump trust me president trump's gonna have him in the oval today for a presser he'll be blowing
00:30:17.360
them up as he did all weekend he'll then uh he'll then have a press conference in the east wing in the
00:30:23.600
east room excuse the east room the beautiful east room with macron and he'll blow them up again and
00:30:30.080
he'll send out i don't know half a dozen true socials that makes their heads blow up the one he put out
00:30:35.760
out last night was on dan bongino world went to meltdown dan bongino deputy director of the fbi he
00:30:41.440
runs the building cash runs the bureau pretty amazing so uh the guy the number two guy
00:30:49.440
at uh national rally front national bardella actually canceled his coming to cpac to give a speech now a
00:30:57.440
lot of people had said um he didn't want to give it you know le pen's trying to promote him because
00:31:02.800
they're um oh let's go let's go right now let's cut there get the whole screen let's go that's
00:31:10.000
right now yeah okay fine so he came this is unusual he came early this morning
00:31:18.320
there was no official greeting thanks i'd love that camera coverage right there um and what you had
00:31:23.760
there's walking out he came to have a call a g7 call this g7 call is about the peace negotiations
00:31:32.720
uh peace process for for ukraine right for ukraine and uh i'm sure mccrone wanted to be in the room
00:31:41.440
mccrone's kind of taking the leadership of this of saying hey europe's got to be at the table and
00:31:45.280
ukraine's got to be at the table i i don't buy that i think the framework's got to be set up between
00:31:51.200
russia and the united states and it's a bigger framework this is something many of us have worked
00:31:56.000
on for years i met actually with uh dugan in rome after i left the white house the year after i left
00:32:02.240
the white house to talk about this very topic about the chinese communist party and how important it was
00:32:07.680
to have russia in america and some sort of understanding particularly on the eurasian land
00:32:13.120
mass of the dangers of the chinese communist party and what the what uh uh the moves by the chinese
00:32:18.880
communist party for uh dominance not just in east asia but in all the eurasian land mass
00:32:25.920
was going to mean for the detriment of mankind so president trump i think is setting that framework
00:32:32.160
now in that framework of the relationship comes this you know scott best and president trump working on
00:32:38.400
this minerals deal as part of it today what you're seeing is mccrone wants europe to have a
00:32:44.320
seat at the table and president trump's being very magnanimous i'm sure he's going to include
00:32:47.760
him in some some way but he patience ran out with zelinski and president trump echoed i think
00:32:53.760
what we've been saying on this show for a long time zelinski has no cards without the united states
00:32:59.040
writing a massive check right which we cannot do and without uh us sending tons of arms and
00:33:06.080
eventually a security guarantee which means u.s troops that they don't really have a bargaining
00:33:11.200
position i hate to be so brutally frank about it and people got to come to that realization pete
00:33:15.120
hegseth i think brilliantly summed it up when he was in uh when he was in brussels and they
00:33:20.400
got all over pete it's an amateur he doesn't know what he's doing well we saw what you guys did and
00:33:25.280
we got a million dead or wounded ukrainians in a in a destroyed country and president trump's kind of
00:33:30.480
obsessed with the destruction and the bloodshed it just wants it to stop and he's going to make it stop
00:33:36.000
and this is what leadership's about what i'm not particularly excited about is any kind of ongoing
00:33:42.960
commitment into ukraine and quite frankly the minerals i'm sure the minerals great but there's
00:33:47.040
minerals all over the world it's an opportunity cost i just think you let macron and these guys the big
00:33:52.560
talkers in europe let them do it and uh and we move on because following the apple announcement there's so
00:34:01.200
much more we have to do here in the united states and i don't think it's quite dawned on people uh how
00:34:08.480
tough a situation we're going to have on doing these cuts to the federal budget remember that's
00:34:13.680
still what's driving inflation and we have we're having a keynesian stimulus massively every day from
00:34:19.840
the federal government and running still historical deficits in this year given everything we know
00:34:26.240
in doge in doge and scott besson said it's 55 billion the first the first month hey i'm all for
00:34:33.440
that if that's waste foreign abuse on this one i'm from missouri and i gotta see it because the analysis
00:34:39.040
in politico in the wall street journal i think has been pretty solid may not be perfect but they're
00:34:44.000
saying hey the number could be a third of that or only 25 of that we need real cash savings i think there
00:34:51.200
is waste foreign abuse obviously we gotta get to the bottom of that but i still say and i will
00:34:56.480
continue to harp on this we're kidding ourselves until you start thinking of programs it's programmatic
00:35:01.360
and billets not individual just bodies it's billets and programs programs and billets you have to do you
00:35:10.240
have to do less you can't do this the government should be just doing should be shrunk and do the
00:35:15.280
following and right now in a time of economic distress particularly among the working class because
00:35:21.040
guess what you invited 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens here to compete with them at the
00:35:26.800
lower skilled levels or unskilled levels to drive their wages down and drive their opportunities down
00:35:31.360
and of course you've got every one of these phony bogus visa programs like h1b visas to crush
00:35:39.440
the the the tech workers and others so programs like medicaid are much more spread out than they were
00:35:46.240
before you want to know a warning shot you want to know a warning flare look at when they put
00:35:50.640
the memo out russ vote and the team pay a letter put the memo out from omb and maybe it wasn't a
00:35:56.240
perfect memo but directionally you can tell what they're trying to do hey we just got here we want
00:36:00.800
to have a short moratorium on all payments until we know we're cashed in the system and the system
00:36:05.840
melted down and what really melted down was the republican congressmen who start with doral having
00:36:11.520
their meeting and started getting blown up on the phone by people back in their districts hey
00:36:15.680
i supply the sandwiches for meals on wheels right i need to be paid my point is these cuts because
00:36:22.800
of what we've done are going to be significant and they're going to be painful and who can take
00:36:28.800
political pain we're going to find out but that pain has to be a shared pain and right now i don't
00:36:36.000
know if it's the best time to be throughout the world with massive development projects a deal for
00:36:41.440
ukraine and i understand what president trump's saying he's tired of like in iraq and afghanistan
00:36:47.120
we put nine trillion dollars over 20 years and you walk away with nothing none of the mineral rights
00:36:53.600
in afghanistan the chinese have those none of the oil rights or access some sort of special deal
00:37:00.960
special development deal on the oil and gas you have nothing and i believe correct me if i'm wrong i
00:37:08.000
believe the europeans money came in as kind of loans the way i think their money came in very
00:37:11.920
differently than ours went into ukraine at least according to president trump i think the structure
00:37:17.520
of their money and quite frankly in the cap table they may actually be higher
00:37:22.000
because biden these guys to cover up the sins that they had victoria newland in this crowd
00:37:27.760
of the color revolution we're just throwing cash at it and also all the dark secrets of ukraine
00:37:32.800
i also think ukraine kind of the bloodlines it's it's a cursed part of the world we shouldn't be
00:37:38.320
there it's it's bad news bad vibe just move on and if macron's there and that's why it's quite
00:37:45.680
unusual macron's there at eight o'clock in the morning they're having a joint called the g7
00:37:50.320
and you know maybe it's for security although the french embassy should be secure enough maybe
00:37:54.400
he just wanted to be there sit there president trump president trump said okay because it was there
00:37:58.720
but crone's now left that's the footage jesus saw and uh and he will come back shortly afternoon ben
00:38:04.960
harnwell our favorite topic ukraine particularly over the weekend the the the although they're
00:38:11.440
they're trashing it that this is america being mercenary there's nothing more than the europeans
00:38:16.240
and quite frankly the ukrainian oligarchs want than the united states to be somehow economically
00:38:22.240
involved in ukraine and and some of the wording that's come out of bloomberg is quite disturbing
00:38:26.240
we're looking we're we are looking to work with them to secure a long-term peace uh you know and
00:38:32.320
prosperity i mean hey i don't know president excuse me president trump and trying to work something out
00:38:39.200
with the russians is taking the big picture here but man it is i just think this ukraine the more you
00:38:45.600
get involved with zelency in this crowd the worse it's going to be although the structure of it is that
00:38:51.440
the ukrainians can't take any money everything comes from their side the minerals our side to develop
00:38:56.160
on their side all the cash they get is specifically target for redevelopment of the country your
00:39:02.400
thoughts sir good morning steve well we're assisting today watching history in the making it's definitely
00:39:09.040
a pivot point um and in terms of just watching the show earlier and seeing welcoming this 500 billion
00:39:15.920
development from apple it is steve jobs would have been his 70th anniversary today not the only
00:39:21.200
anniversary however that's overshadowed by the third anniversary of the war in ukraine that's today
00:39:26.320
24th of february year of our lord 2025 three years of unnecessary war today i have to pick up on one
00:39:33.920
thing i've got three things to say today talking about ukraine the afd um and macron the white house
00:39:40.080
and these three things are all related but i must pick up on one thing that you mentioned just before in
00:39:45.520
your monologue um i'm not sure whether president trump is actually right to suggest that zelensky
00:39:52.480
or the ukrainian regime itself have um have no cards left i think they have one card i'm not saying it's
00:39:59.120
likely that they would play it um but they should they could use it and that's just instead of selling
00:40:04.560
out to the united states and u.s oligarchs they could sell out to china they could pivot be a very dramatic
00:40:11.920
pivot um but seeing as there aren't any elections there at the moment they could pivot to china and
00:40:17.520
say look we'll give you the rights uh ostensibly um for the reconstruction redevelopment of ukraine
00:40:26.160
and we've always said for three years that the real drift is going to come in the rebuilding of
00:40:30.160
ukraine they could sell sell out to china i'm not suggesting it's likely but given us sensibilities
00:40:37.520
right now it's a card that they could play um okay so let's look at the afd big big news yesterday
00:40:44.240
in germany the federal elections um and the afd did reasonably well i practically doubled its vote
00:40:51.840
its percentage of the vote from about 10.3 to 19 and a half percent that's a huge success which
00:40:59.520
whichever way you look at it it's not the 25 that some people were forecasting but what this does mean
00:41:05.920
steve is that the afd the alternative for deutschland together with the defeated social democratic party
00:41:13.040
the party of olaf schultz the outgoing chancellor these now have a blocking uh minority and they can
00:41:19.680
stop constitutional changes technically germany doesn't have a constitution as a basic law but it's
00:41:26.160
already in discussion having that basic law amended to allow germany to take on more debt to finance
00:41:33.120
ukraine the left i know i've got to give away for a break steve but the the left have already said
00:41:38.640
that they will only countenance changes to the constitution in taking on more debt if that money
00:41:44.080
goes in to infrastructure spending they're not about to spend more money on ukraine
00:41:52.160
um i tell you what we're going to do let's go to a um do we let's let's go ahead and play miles we
00:41:57.840
we take a quick break here we're going to return in a moment on war room let's go ahead and take the uh
00:42:03.840
let's go and play the play the song let's go we'll be back in a moment
00:42:34.960
everything's just beginning but the games you want to play bring it on and now we'll fight to the
00:42:48.320
end just watch and see it's all started everything's begun and you are over
00:42:59.120
spread the word all through hong kong we will fight till they're all gone
00:43:05.120
we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp
00:43:09.120
they have all liked for too long we will end what they do wrong
00:43:15.120
spread the word all through hong kong let's take down the ccp
00:43:35.120
we will have freedom to live we will when you surrender
00:43:43.120
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Does the deal include security helping to secure Ukraine?
00:45:13.760
It does not—what it does not include is a military guarantee.
00:45:17.140
But what it does include is an implicit guarantee that if the United States of America
00:45:22.740
is heavily invested in the economic future—you know, I call it an economic security guarantee.
00:45:28.640
The more assets that U.S. companies have on the ground,
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the bigger interest that the U.S. has in the future of Ukrainian economy doing well,
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the more security it creates for the Ukrainian people,
00:45:43.100
and the higher the return for the U.S. taxpayer.
00:45:46.560
Again, you know, President Trump has structured this win-win deal,
00:45:50.380
and it's unfortunate that, you know, after my meeting with President Zelensky
00:45:54.820
and then his meeting in Munich with Vice President Vance, Secretary of State Rubio,
00:46:00.980
the idea here of my trip to Ukraine and then the meeting in Munich,
00:46:06.060
we want to intertwine the U.S. and Ukrainian economies for the benefit of both.
00:46:12.400
And unfortunately, President Zelensky seems to have put a bit of daylight between us.
00:46:17.600
But I am sure in the long run, or in the short run, there is no daylight.
00:46:22.220
The deal will be signed, and this will give President Trump a lever,
00:46:27.060
and it will be a strong signal to Russian leadership
00:46:30.580
that the U.S. is in a serious partnership with the Ukrainian people.
00:46:35.460
President Zelensky is speaking right now, saying today that he was willing to give up his position
00:46:41.420
if it meant peace in Ukraine, quipping that he could exchange his departure for Ukraine's entry
00:46:47.360
into NATO. Zelensky also says he wanted to see Donald Trump as a partner to Ukraine
00:46:52.360
and more than simply a mediator between Kyiv and Moscow.
00:46:55.520
I want it to be more than just mediation. That's not enough, he told a press conference just moments
00:46:59.940
ago. Your reaction? Is this also suggesting that there could be a change in leadership in Ukraine?
00:47:06.080
You know, Maria, I try to stay in my economics and finance lane.
00:47:15.460
But at some point, Ukrainian people, it's a democracy.
00:47:19.500
They're going to have an election, and they will democratically elect a leader.
00:47:24.880
President Zelensky has been a wartime president.
00:47:28.120
And, you know, we've seen in the history of this, Winston Churchill is a fantastic wartime
00:47:33.840
leader. And then the British people decided to move on after he had done a great job during
00:47:42.020
Welcome back, folks. I'm just going to finish off with the point that I was making just
00:47:46.160
before the break. But following on from what U.S. Secretary, Treasury Secretary Scott
00:47:52.140
is saying that. I caution the war room posse not to be too invested in these arguments about
00:48:00.200
entwining, to quote him, the U.S. economy and Ukrainian economy, because it's not so much
00:48:05.980
the entwining of economies that I think the posse is interested in. It's the entwining of
00:48:12.780
the military infrastructures. And this show has been absolutely constant here for three years
00:48:19.880
on this issue. The U.S. military, the United States must disengage from Ukraine rather
00:48:25.980
than look for excuses and pretext to bind itself ever further in. And that's exactly what Treasury
00:48:32.820
Secretary Besson is doing. He's providing a pretext, a visible pretext for behind the
00:48:39.160
scenes further investment. Why do I say this, Denver? If you'd be very kind and put up the
00:48:44.180
second asset with which you have a headline, Zelensky says U.S. mineral deal.
00:48:49.880
Must include military guarantees. There we have it. That's from the Mining Weekly publication.
00:48:57.320
They know exactly what this is all about. The idea that you can use the term security
00:49:03.200
guarantees or you can use the modern lingo that's just been introduced over the last seven
00:49:07.860
or so days, a backstop. Whatever jargon you want to use, the point here is that the U.S.
00:49:15.320
military is not going to be allowed to disengage. And in fact, talking about the U.S. military,
00:49:22.120
you know, and I'll hand over to Steve in just a moment on this, someone who did wear the U.S.
00:49:28.120
military uniform when he was a young guy, as did his daughter, as did a number of members of his
00:49:32.960
family. My own brother was in the U.K. Navy as a career engineer in the Navy. The point about,
00:49:43.740
I think, for young people, putting on military uniform is a manifestation of the absolute
00:49:51.600
heroism and patriotism that a citizen is capable of showing for their own country, for their country.
00:49:59.160
That's why we call these things ministries of defense rather than offense. The issue here for
00:50:05.120
using, as this headline points out, military guarantees about U.S. soldiers in an area of
00:50:11.440
which the U.S. has no vital national interest is that these soldiers are just being used here
00:50:18.380
by billionaires to defend America's interests. They're effectively, and I use the term advisedly
00:50:27.860
here, but the U.S. military is effectively being prostituted out to act not as a national defense
00:50:34.420
force for a country, but as mercenaries. That's exactly what we're talking about here. We're
00:50:39.660
talking about the U.S. military being provided as a mercenary force to protect the interest
00:50:45.660
of American oligarchs going into Ukraine for the apparently trillions of dollars worth of
00:50:54.860
of infrastructure there. It's absolutely not acceptable. And to some extent, I would use
00:50:58.860
the word betrayal. It's a betrayal of what this movement, the MAGA movement, the America First
00:51:04.220
movement is founded on. And I'll tell you why I use such a heavy word as betrayal, because this is
00:51:09.820
exactly the same logic that was used to employ the first Gulf War and the second Gulf War as
00:51:16.300
justification. We all know that was about oil. The first Gulf War, Bush 41 and Dick Cheney,
00:51:23.740
second Gulf War, Bush 43, Dick Cheney again, Liz Cheney's beloved father, and Donald Rumsfeld. The whole
00:51:31.180
point about that was to create stability in the oil market because America is an exporter of oil.
00:51:38.780
And I cannot think of an American presidency, an American administration more hated and loathed,
00:51:46.460
even by its own members than the Bush dynasty, the Bush family dynasty. And it is tragic to see some
00:51:53.660
people in the orbit around Donald Trump using exactly the same arguments that the neocoms were using
00:52:02.300
in the 90s. And in the first decade of this millennium, using exactly the same arguments to justify
00:52:11.900
exactly the same thing in a different country, Ukraine, of which I repeat, America has no national
00:52:18.220
vital interest. If there are minerals and rare earths buried largely, mostly in the Donbass and the
00:52:26.460
Russian-occupied part of Ukraine, then any country can trade with them. That's how things are done.
00:52:32.700
It's enough of the war and enough of the pretext. This movement has been absolutely clear from the
00:52:39.660
start. America needs to disengage from Ukraine. Okay, stay tuned, folks. We'll be back after this
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