Bannon's War Room - Episode 4293： Macron Pushes Security In Ukraine; Federal Employees Plot Against Trump Admin.

00:00:00.000 Real America's Voice now, the 4 o'clock hour. What a power lineup.

00:00:03.920 War Room in the morning, Charlie Kirk. After that, you've got Jack Posobiec, you've got Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling,

00:00:11.580 the War Room, John Solomon, Grant Stinchfield, all of it. That is a power, that's what, nine hours of intensity.

00:00:17.700 I don't know how people are going to handle that. So, absolutely incredible.

00:00:20.960 Here's what we're going to do. We're going to play our cold open now.

00:00:24.260 Intense day at the White House.

00:00:26.700 President Trump, you know, Eric just talked about the handshake. It started with the power handshake,

00:00:30.680 but, man, it was an intense day all around. We're going to play the cold open.

00:00:34.400 I'm going to come down and break it. I'm going to come back and break it down all for you here in the War Room,

00:00:38.060 the late afternoon and early evening show. Let's hit it, guys.

00:00:41.000 I will never give any advice to President Trump. We have friendly and trustful discussion,

00:00:47.780 but my experience with President Putin is the following.

00:00:51.460 Number one, I always think it's good to have discussion with other leaders,

00:00:54.960 and especially when you disagree.

00:00:58.020 I stopped my discussion with President Putin after Butcha and the war crimes, 0.62

00:01:03.420 because I considered that, I mean, we had nothing to get from him in the time.

00:01:08.280 Now there is a chance, there is a big change, because there is a new U.S. administration,

00:01:12.820 so this is a new context.

00:01:15.080 So there is a good reason for President Trump to re-engage with President Putin.

00:01:19.720 But my experience is the following, and I shared it with President Trump and the team.

00:01:26.140 In 2014, our predecessors negotiated peace with President Putin.

00:01:31.660 But because of the lack of guarantees, and especially security guarantees,

00:01:38.000 President Putin violated this peace.

00:01:41.180 And I had several discussions, especially beginning of 2022,

00:01:44.780 several times, seven hours with President Putin,

00:01:48.460 15 days before the launching of the attack.

00:01:55.960 It denied everything, but we didn't have security guarantees.

00:02:01.640 So this is why being strong and having deterrence capacities

00:02:06.620 is the only way to be sure it will be respected.

00:02:10.480 And I insisted on that, and this is why I believe that the U.S. has the capacity to do so.

00:02:17.460 And this is why I think we should never say,

00:02:21.020 I will never send it in boots on the ground,

00:02:22.600 because you give a blank check to violate any type of commitment.

00:02:29.780 So I think it's good to have discussion.

00:02:32.640 I think it's useful to have negotiation.

00:02:34.900 I think it's super important to go to the peace.

00:02:38.300 But my strong point was to say,

00:02:40.980 let's try to get something first which can be assessed,

00:02:45.200 checked, checked and verified.

00:02:47.860 And let's be sure that we build sufficient guarantees on the short run.

00:02:52.120 And this is where we are ready to be engaged.

00:02:55.380 As for France, a lot of my European colleagues are ready to be engaged.

00:02:59.580 But we do need this American backup, 0.92

00:03:02.360 because this is part of the credibility of the security guarantees.

00:03:06.080 And this is our collective deterrence capacity.

00:03:09.580 And I have the feeling that the President has this capacity.

00:03:13.080 I think it's very much to the benefit of Russia to make a deal.

00:03:19.780 And I feel that we'll do that.

00:03:23.260 It is what it is.

00:03:24.680 Again, it's a war that should have never been started.

00:03:27.020 It's a war that would not have been started if I were president.

00:03:30.100 But it did start.

00:03:31.340 And it's at a terrible level where cities are burned down and shot down to the ground.

00:03:38.360 It looks like demolition sites, a whole big pile of demolition sites.

00:03:42.760 And we've got to get it stopped.

00:03:44.260 Too many people, too much agony.

00:03:46.900 The whole culture is destroyed.

00:03:48.620 When you rip down some of those ancient, really ancient or near ancient buildings,

00:03:54.060 it's so sad to see.

00:03:56.500 But I think it's very much to the benefit of this tremendous distrust on both sides.

00:04:01.320 That's why it's good that I'm coming in now.

00:04:02.820 But I think it's to the very much benefit of Russia to make a deal and to go on with leading Russia in a very positive way.

00:04:14.540 That's what you have to do.

00:04:16.760 But I really believe that he wants to make a deal.

00:04:19.280 Maybe wrong, but I believe he wants to make a deal.

00:04:21.520 Well, I will say it appears that German voters responded to those messages about as effectively as American voters would respond to German politicians

00:04:32.960 going to Peoria and telling them how to vote in their American elections.

00:04:38.780 Yeah, I think that's a pretty good way of putting it.

00:04:42.560 In fact, arguably, if you see the turnout, which was it was a high, a recent high in Germany, 85 percent of German voters voted yesterday.

00:04:52.980 Compare that to the recent high in the U.S. presidential elections of 66 percent in 2020.

00:05:00.300 Then, arguably, Elon Musk really stimulated everyone else, the anti-AfD vote, to come out and vote and limit it to that one in five ceiling that it's been at for some time.

00:05:14.640 Look, it's still, by German post-war standards, a pretty sobering result to see not just the far right get one in five, but the far left surging as well.

00:05:26.720 So put together, extreme parties are now about 30 percent of the German vote, and they used to be nowhere.

00:05:33.860 But relative to where other democracies are going, including the United States, nearly half of America voted for Trump.

00:05:42.920 This is a moderate center is holding election.

00:05:46.720 And I think that the change in chancellors from Olaf Scholz to Friedrich Marx is extremely good news in terms of what Cathy was just saying.

00:05:59.340 If we want Europe to move fast, because he said we've got no time for the usual German weeks and months of coalition negotiations, the world will not wait on us.

00:06:14.040 We've got to move quickly and we've got to we've got to build up our defenses against Russia.

00:06:20.540 That's essentially his message.

00:06:21.900 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:06:29.580 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:06:34.840 I got a free shot.

00:06:36.100 All these networks lying about the people.

00:06:39.100 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:06:41.080 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:06:42.520 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:06:45.140 It's going to happen.

00:06:46.420 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:49.800 Mega media.

00:06:50.700 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:56.600 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:07:00.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:07:06.700 War Room.

00:07:07.540 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:07:09.620 Bannon.

00:07:14.980 Monday, 24 February, year of our Lord, 2025.

00:07:17.460 You've seen here, this is today, the very historic kickoff to our historic week.

00:07:25.500 President Trump, let's set this in what has occurred since he's arrived for his second term.

00:07:33.260 And I think President Trump would be the first that would agree with this.

00:07:38.120 In fact, I think this is atop of his mind a lot of times.

00:07:41.420 That God works in mysterious ways and is actually more powerful for him to have had the space between the first term and the second term.

00:07:53.920 That the irony of all this is that the big steal that occurred in 20 allowed us to see the demonic nature of what our opposition is.

00:08:08.940 Also see where they were taking the world and also, I think, allowed the world to see what was going to be at hand with these globalists.

00:08:17.240 And so that President Trump's second term, third win, second term, is actually more powerful.

00:08:23.840 Now, what's happened since he's come to power on the 20th in the last month, but I think most personified in what's happened over the last 72 hours is,

00:08:35.860 and I don't want to call it the Trump doctrine because that's an easy way that the media always tries to look at these things.

00:08:42.060 He is very much trying to think through geostrategically and geoeconomically with both the hemispheric defense of the Panama Canal to Greenland, the Arctic, Canada,

00:09:01.820 the geoeconomic unit that is North America, the geostrategic unit.

00:09:06.780 Looking at the three island chains in the great desert of the Pacific, that is a natural barrier to essentially hermetically seal the United States,

00:09:19.580 you add an iron dome or an anti-ballistic missile type system, you've hermetically sealed the homeland.

00:09:27.880 And to think through then the economics of a new structure that's different than the post-war international rules-based order that just drained America, drained her and drained her people.

00:09:45.000 So if you see on Friday the executive order about China and the investment in China, that is the beginning of decoupling, particularly on the technology side.

00:09:55.640 You couple that with the Apple investment today, and the Apple investment, clearly Apple and Tim knew about this for a while, right?

00:10:10.480 They knew that this was going to be a – that this was going to be – Trump was going to penalize companies putting into investments into China.

00:10:21.360 So he announced today a $500 billion, half a trillion dollar investment program into capital equipment and manufacturing here in the United States.

00:10:30.960 As Mike Allen said this morning on Morning Joe, that is huge leverage for President Trump.

00:10:35.960 It also sent a signal to all these other U.S. companies that, hey, if Apple can do it, we can do it.

00:10:43.540 And President Trump, this is part of his tariff – I don't even want to call them tariffs.

00:10:46.660 It's his new economic structure where to get into this market, you're going to pay a high premium unless you actually move your manufacturing here.

00:10:54.220 In addition, although – and I say this all the time, I'm not as excited as President Trump is, but I think it shows you that the Saudis, the Japanese might come and talk about a trade, and the Saudis talking about $400 or $500 billion.

00:11:06.680 All these people throwing up tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars of investment here in the United States from the UAE to – what's it, Masa-san, all of them, SoftBank.

00:11:17.460 That money is not going to China.

00:11:20.700 It's not going to an investment in mainland China underneath the Chinese Communist Party.

00:11:26.240 That's what President Trump is trying to show.

00:11:27.600 In addition, this Ukraine – and that's what we wanted to play the beginning of that, and I thank the production team for focusing.

00:11:34.640 Of the entire day, I think that was the most important part because the Europeans are still trying to entangle America, the United States, into their defense. 0.61

00:11:50.480 And when I say their defense, not as an ally, but as still as a protectorate.

00:11:56.280 And Macron talks the biggest talk, although nobody in Europe, no government in Europe, no people in Europe would ever vote for this.

00:12:02.500 What he's talking about and the way they've allowed their defenses to deteriorate, and the other day I had a European say, well, you don't understand it.

00:12:10.740 The American military is so inextricably woven and is the foundational element to all the European defenses, all the air defense, all the radars, all the infantry, all the logistics is really built around the spine or the foundation of the American military that's in Europe.

00:12:27.340 The large military infantry presence we have in Germany, and, of course, other armor, artillery, air assets throughout Italy, everywhere.

00:12:41.060 That we still are the underpinnings and the foundational element of their defense.

00:12:45.280 This is why this buzzword you're going to hear, security guarantee, security guarantee.

00:12:53.460 Now, the Ukraine situation makes sense if it is under the overall structure of some sort of relationship with the Russians, and you can tell where President Trump's going in that, I think.

00:13:05.360 He's very, very, very, very focused, I believe, in making sure he essentially tries to isolate the Chinese Communist Party, both decouple economically, enforce Wall Street and Silicon Valley to do that, and the corporatists. 0.76

00:13:22.020 That's not going to be easy at the same time to have some sort of rapprochement with Russia where they are more in our camp or more aligned with us than they are with the Chinese Communist Party, which is what the last, you know, the Atlanticist and the elitist, what President Trump wanted to do his first term because of Russia, Russia, Russia. 0.74

00:13:46.380 All those nonsense, all those lies from shifting, all of them, forced the Russians into the arms of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.64

00:13:54.860 So they came up with, right around the time of three years ago, of the invasion of Ukraine, that special strategic relationship, remember, the strategic relationship that can be topped by no other.

00:14:12.480 President Trump is trying to negotiate a new kind of Pax Americana without American troops everywhere, and America underwriting security guarantees everywhere, which is what we do today.

00:14:30.000 Whether it's in Western Europe, around the Gulf, around the Gulf of Emirates, in Israel, the Middle East, around the Straits of Malacca and the South China Sea, or up off of Korea and Japan.

00:14:45.300 President Trump thinking it through is one of the reasons this election in Germany is so massive.

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00:16:38.520 As you know, I'm not particularly excited about the Ukraine part, but in context of an overall new rethinking of this and people putting their guns down with Russia,

00:16:59.880 I've always felt that some sort of alignment with Russia is absolutely central to the takedown of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:17:09.400 If we have allowed what we've allowed for the last five years since Biden got in,

00:17:14.200 and Biden drove the Chinese Communist Party, Beijing, the Mullahs in Tehran in Persia, Russia, the KGB, and Erdogan.

00:17:24.060 They made that movie about me in, called The Brink, I think in 2018 or 2019, 2018,

00:17:30.840 where they went around the world when I was in Western Europe trying to begin this populist movement that you're seeing coming to fruition today,

00:17:38.520 including meeting with the Alternative for Deutschland people at the time.

00:17:43.720 And, you know, Alternative for Deutschland at the time I think was at 3% or 4%.

00:17:47.840 When I met with Georgia Maloney, she was at 3%. 0.99

00:17:51.160 She headed up a small party called the Sons of Italy.

00:17:55.400 The only person that had gotten real traction was Nigel Farage, who we had worked with shoulder to shoulder on Brexit back in 2015 and 2016.

00:18:04.520 In fact, Rahim Ghassan, our beloved Rahim Ghassan, had actually left Breitbart London for a while and went and ran the campaigns for Nigel.

00:18:15.020 My point is that these have been a long time in coming to fruition.

00:18:19.660 There is a possibility that you could set the world on a path from the beginning stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War.

00:18:29.820 You could set it on a path to actually peace and prosperity.

00:18:36.200 That's what President Trump's trying to do.

00:18:38.460 That's why it takes a leader of his caliber and strength.

00:18:43.320 And we don't agree on everything, but I absolutely understand and 1 million percent agree with what he's trying to do directionally.

00:18:50.960 And it's a little bit breathtaking because you're hitting on so many different strategic notes.

00:18:58.480 To wit, they've just announced that on March 4th, the 25 percent tariffs in Mexico kick in.

00:19:06.040 And I've been given interviews in Canada nonstop on Canadian TV, and I keep telling people he's not trolling you.

00:19:12.420 He talks about the 51st state, and I said you should take it as an honor.

00:19:16.560 People in the United States don't sit there and go, hey, we'd love to have these folks here as a state.

00:19:22.740 That hasn't happened since Alaska in Hawaii, what, 70 years ago, 60 years ago.

00:19:29.420 So – and they're going to get – it's going to get their attention geo-economically when they see the premium they have to pay to get into this market.

00:19:39.820 And put on top of that the geo-strategic necessity of what's going to happen in the Arctic is that now is a great power struggle in what we call the new great game or the great game of the 21st century.

00:19:50.160 That is kind of replicates what happened between the Russian Empire and the British Empire in Afghanistan and Persia in the 19th century around India.

00:20:00.240 So President Trump is thinking in five different directions and negotiating the entire time.

00:20:04.360 However, you've always got to be careful.

00:20:07.180 And I know we've got Senator Rubio I think is doing a great job.

00:20:09.520 Besson is doing a great job.

00:20:10.640 You've got Mike Waltz over there.

00:20:13.120 You've got Steve Witkoff that kind of head of the negotiation, Vice President Vance.

00:20:17.280 He's got a pretty good team on top of this. 0.90

00:20:20.040 In fact, a damn good team. 0.58

00:20:20.980 I think the cabinet – and I could argue this. 0.89

00:20:23.900 I think the cabinet he has is the best cabinet a president's had of people that are action-oriented and can get things done since Lincoln's war cabinet.

00:20:32.160 And – but you see Macron, this is a shifty guy.

00:20:40.160 You've got to watch him.

00:20:41.160 You've got to watch these guys.

00:20:42.940 This is why I'm so upset about this Bardella guy at Front National.

00:20:45.880 I think Front National is teed up to take over the French government under Le Pen.

00:20:52.100 But the Bardella is just a weak sister.

00:20:54.860 The guy wet himself about my wave to the audience the other day.

00:20:58.420 I had to put up – I had to send these guys today how I did the exact same wave in front of Front National when they invited me over there in 2018 seven years ago to give them a pep talk.

00:21:08.900 Almost the exact same pep talk, a different kind of version of it, of how they were not alone and how they were fighting the good fight, and they were only at, I don't know, 14 or 15 percent at the time.

00:21:19.960 You notice there's a trend here.

00:21:22.060 I will get in back of people when you're at 3 percent.

00:21:24.300 I don't care because I see the possibility that George Maloney can, you know, lead the government or a guy like Salvini can win or a person like Trump can win.

00:21:32.500 You talk about – I haven't talked about the CPAC straw poll.

00:21:37.080 President Trump's history in the CPAC because they missed – McLaughlin made a misstatement the other day when he did this.

00:21:45.220 President Trump has been on the CPAC poll two times before he was president, twice.

00:21:50.060 The first time was in 2015, and I was there kind of both times.

00:21:53.580 It was in 2015 when President Trump, the first time he was on the CPAC straw poll, finished eighth at 3.5 percent.

00:22:03.280 In fact, he was going to fire Sam Nunberg, the guy who was working with him at the time, you know, for not doing as good a job.

00:22:09.860 Although the 3.5 percent was pretty strong given President Trump as a CPAC was much different than this today.

00:22:15.100 It was kind of conservative, Inc.

00:22:16.160 In 2016 – and by the way, that's 100 days before President Trump came down the escalator to announce his presidency.

00:22:25.840 Finished eighth at 3.5 percent.

00:22:28.180 In 16, essentially 100 days or 120 days, let's say, at the outside, before he won the Republican nomination.

00:22:37.680 And I remember this because this is during the time when we had – I was running Breitbart, and we had quite a disturbance at Breitbart.

00:22:46.520 In fact, this is when Ben Shapiro – and I admire Ben on a lot of things, one of the smartest guys around.

00:22:52.120 We differ a lot on populism versus conservatism.

00:22:56.200 He referred to – in the instant that he either quit or I fired him, we still haven't decided which.

00:23:01.760 I have one version.

00:23:02.640 He has another.

00:23:03.200 But he referred to Breitbart, I turned it into Trump Pravda.

00:23:07.540 In that – I think it was late February, early March.

00:23:10.980 In 16, President Trump finished a distant third to Ted Cruz at 40 percent.

00:23:16.980 I think Marco – Senator Marco Rubio was at 15 or 20 percent.

00:23:21.100 Excuse me, 25 percent, I think.

00:23:23.060 20, 25 percent was second.

00:23:24.920 President Trump was at 15 percent just 100 days before he won the primary.

00:23:29.900 The – he has seen – he sees the world differently.

00:23:37.440 He sees the world as a – in realigning can lead to peace and prosperity.

00:23:45.160 There were no wars on his watch.

00:23:48.720 Nobody wanted a crossing.

00:23:49.860 The one time we did the launch of the cruise missile in the Syria, he remembers I was the one that was with him that didn't want to do it.

00:23:57.460 And eventually he was kind of talked into it, I believe, by the National Security Council, by Mattis and these guys that do the same thing.

00:24:04.640 Clinton just shoot a couple of cruise missiles in. 0.98

00:24:07.140 And then the next day they're doing the same thing.

00:24:08.800 This is what they like to do.

00:24:09.980 Kind of tick for tat.

00:24:12.020 Makes them feel like big shots.

00:24:14.260 They also couldn't – they sat right there and lied to your face about the chemical attacks from Syria.

00:24:18.120 I'm not saying the Syrians, the dictators over there are good guys. 1.00

00:24:23.400 They're not. 0.97

00:24:23.860 They're bad hombres.

00:24:25.100 But you know what? 0.98

00:24:25.640 The world's full of bad hombres.

00:24:27.620 That's what the founders knew.

00:24:28.800 They said, hey, if you want to go around slaying dragons, they've got a whole world full of them.

00:24:34.680 So maybe the watchword in our early days of the Republic, do not go overseas looking for dragons to slay, for monsters to slay, because there's monsters everywhere in the world.

00:24:43.560 What President Trump is trying to do is stop the kinetic part of the Third World War, which has already been bloodier than the first couple of years of the Second World War.

00:24:55.480 What's happening in Ukraine has been far bloodier than Poland or the fall of France or the Blitz.

00:25:02.140 And he's doing a heck of a job.

00:25:07.280 But the Europeans – and this is why Macron ran over there today.

00:25:10.120 And Macron was at the White House all day today, basically, from 8 o'clock in the morning.

00:25:14.440 I think he left for a couple hours.

00:25:16.400 And that call went forever.

00:25:17.800 That was a G7 call.

00:25:20.500 And you see there in the remarks – and that's why I was so fascinated.

00:25:22.980 I'm so glad now that Real America's Voice, we have a couple of White House correspondents.

00:25:26.380 And we have the camera there, we have our setup over there, and we can do real-time pulling of the footage and then having the Natalie Winters and the Brian Glens and the Amanda Heads and others that can give commentary.

00:25:43.020 Because history is being made every day.

00:25:45.600 If President Trump is able to pull off some sort of – let's call it an arrangement right now.

00:25:51.800 Let's just leave it like that.

00:25:52.840 Understanding.

00:25:53.400 How about that?

00:25:53.840 An understanding with the Russians.

00:25:57.380 And really unite us for the first time since World War II with our allies, not the KGB, not the leaders, but the people of Russia who bled on battlefields for us, unlike most of the elites that we're dealing with that are, quote-unquote, allies.

00:26:16.260 They're not our allies.

00:26:18.500 They've never really put up shoulder-to-shoulder with us.

00:26:22.780 You know who an ally is?

00:26:24.220 An ally is Canada.

00:26:25.120 Canada is always punched above their weight, always answered the call, and they've always taken the tough assignments, and they've given better than they got.

00:26:37.380 That's an ally.

00:26:38.200 But President Trump is trying to do something here that is historic, and if he can pull it off, and it will take a couple of years minimum to pull off, he could set the 21st century down a path of peace.

00:26:52.300 Because right now, folks, you look at the 21st century compared to the 20th, and remember, you're coming out of the bloodiest century in mankind's history.

00:27:01.760 This is worse than the Dark Ages.

00:27:03.000 Look at the 20th century, I think it's, we figured out the short century of the 20th century, I call it, from August of 1914, the guns of August in World War I, to the fall of the Tiananmen Square and the Berlin Wall.

00:27:18.900 That's, to me, the 20th century, right there, from 1914 to 1989, 1990.

00:27:27.320 200, I think 250 million people killed, starved, massacred in concentration camps, starved to death by the Chinese Communist Party, slaughtered on battlefields from the Ukraine.

00:27:40.780 Starvation, 5 million died in, what is it, Holdemore?

00:27:46.040 In Ukraine, 5 million starved brutally by the Bolsheviks.

00:27:49.140 Obviously, the Holocaust, Southeast Asia after Vietnam, all of it, a bloody, catastrophic, dark century. 0.99

00:28:02.640 The 21st century is teed up to be even worse.

00:28:07.180 And that's what President Trump is doing, it's so historic, and that's why you've got these Macron and these guys, you can't trust any of them.

00:28:13.680 They're in there today, and you see them weaving away, and, oh, you're going to have a security guarantee, and all this, giving all this happy talk.

00:28:21.900 What they want is American money and American troops.

00:28:27.100 That's what President Trump's fighting.

00:28:28.680 Short commercial break.

00:28:29.760 We're going to go to Natalie Winters.

00:28:31.540 We return in the war room.

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00:32:09.240 Natalie, while we have these big historic movements, there's also the reality against President Trump.

00:32:17.840 You saw the Harvard poll today that shows the wind to his back in things like Doge, at least for now,

00:32:25.660 and things like trying to cut federal spending, and things like deportations.

00:32:30.700 But the resistance, and they're not having a great run in federal court, although they're trying and they're going to appeal everything.

00:32:39.900 They really haven't won much, so the color revolution crowd may be their last line of defense. 0.94

00:32:48.380 You've got some great updates on all of that.

00:32:51.180 Natalie Winters, our White House correspondent.

00:32:53.360 Ma'am.

00:32:54.340 Yeah, I want to unironically quote the New York Times, which we very rarely do here in the war room,

00:32:59.580 but in a piece sort of updating on all the resistance tactics.

00:33:02.900 The New York Times says, quote,

00:33:04.180 So far, President Trump and his administration have largely steamrolled the opposition.

00:33:09.700 But, of course, we want to bring you the signal, not noise.

00:33:12.320 And in reading this piece, I think it sort of outlines the chart,

00:33:15.340 the path forward for how they will actively be trying to really undermine President Trump.

00:33:20.480 I think the deportation vertical, like you were talking about, Steve,

00:33:23.100 is one of the key ways that we've seen them actively sabotage what President Trump is planning to do with the mass deportations.

00:33:29.760 Why do I say that?

00:33:30.660 There, of course, has been the ongoing investigation and probe into how people who work at the FBI

00:33:35.880 were actively leaking information prematurely about those ICE raids that were going on in Los Angeles.

00:33:42.620 But to sort of drill down, in this story, it talks about how a lot of these 20,000 or so federal workers,

00:33:50.280 despite being forced out of their offices, I'm sure you've all seen the glorious pictures of them holding the boxes and crying,

00:33:55.300 they're now all sort of coordinating and collaborating using what they're calling encrypted messaging applications,

00:34:02.120 setting up sort of alternative social media accounts to be able to plan what they say is, quote, future actions.

00:34:10.080 Now, they leave it vague.

00:34:11.040 It's not necessarily indicated what they're talking about.

00:34:13.520 But later in the piece, they invoke Mark Zaid.

00:34:15.420 They quote him, who is, of course, the infamous whistleblower attorney, the first impeachment kind of legal extraordinaire.

00:34:22.200 And I want to read a quote from him because in terms of understanding where they go from here, they are so pressed up against a wall.

00:34:28.320 The only option that they have is essentially to leak documents to try to get back at President Trump like they were doing, for example, right, with the ICE raids in Los Angeles.

00:34:37.080 Mark Zaid saying, quote, it's a deterrent to lawful whistleblowing.

00:34:40.960 The pathetic irony is that it's encouraging people to break the law and leak classified information because the system is no longer in place.

00:34:48.880 I don't know about you. 0.80

00:34:49.800 These people talk and smoke signals and coded word.

00:34:52.500 I've never heard something more obvious that they are calling for these people now since they can't read.

00:34:58.660 They don't have access to whistleblow that they want them to be leaking documents and all the documents that these people took with them when they quit their jobs.

00:35:05.020 That's how they'll be attempting to wage war against President Trump.

00:35:08.280 Last point real quick.

00:35:09.080 You are correct, Steve.

00:35:09.840 They're obviously suing President Trump as much as they can on every single executive order.

00:35:14.840 And it sort of seems to be a pattern where President Trump has the victory for a little bit.

00:35:19.940 Then usually Obama or Clinton judge steps in, slaps it down for a little bit.

00:35:24.240 It works its way through, and it ultimately gets resolved.

00:35:26.840 But on some of these issues like right now, the NIH funding, the DEI stuff, and some of the deportation stuff, particularly today,

00:35:33.340 it's breaking about being able to conduct raids in churches, they are having some temporary victories on that front.

00:35:40.200 Yeah.

00:35:40.680 Tell people, you've got a great term that you've used.

00:35:43.940 What do you mean when you say that a lot of these folks are in bets because you have two and a half million?

00:35:50.720 And the Doge guys are doing a good job, but so far, that's essentially been onesies, twosies.

00:35:55.600 I think, you know, overall, maybe, I don't know, count up with the people that took early retirement.

00:35:59.900 I think they said 25,000 to 40,000.

00:36:02.360 There's probably another 20,000 that at least, if you just add them up, have been let go.

00:36:07.580 It may be higher than that, but let's say it's under 100,000 of the 2.5 to 3 million federal employees.

00:36:14.600 What do you mean by embeds, and how dangerous is that for President Trump and his team of 3,000 or 4,000 total

00:36:22.880 that are trying to change the direction of this American empire?

00:36:27.840 Ma'am.

00:36:28.120 Well, look, we get very analytical.

00:36:31.160 We focus on linguistics here in the war room, and the term embed, just like unelected bureaucrat, is very key to this debate

00:36:36.880 because if you follow the mainstream media's coverage of this concept, the mass firings,

00:36:41.860 what is the word that they are wash, rinsing, and repeating?

00:36:44.960 It's civil service, civil service, civil service, right?

00:36:48.400 They hate the term unelected bureaucrat.

00:36:51.040 I sort of put it through the paradigm of undocumented immigrant and illegal alien, right?

00:36:55.560 That's now the new linguistic battle.

00:36:57.560 And the framing of it, these people as unelected bureaucrats or embeds, I think speaks to the idea of someone like Mark Zaid,

00:37:04.580 who is essentially a pipeline where they view all these federal employees not as people who are serving the American people.

00:37:10.740 We saw that on display, full display, right, during the first impeachment of President Trump.

00:37:14.760 These are people who have their own conceptions, their own ideas, their own sort of Washington consensus of what policies should be.

00:37:20.820 And any time that something deviates from that, they sort of have these off-ramps,

00:37:25.220 these like premeditated ways that they can go about and skirt the system to circumvent whether it's President Trump

00:37:32.000 or whatever populist sort of system-wrecking candidate may be in place.

00:37:36.180 And I also think, too, Steve, it's important to underscore that the deep state, the permanent political class,

00:37:41.960 that in your face, however you want to couch it, the federal employees are just sort of one leg of that stool, right?

00:37:47.840 It's people who are on the outside who are equally important.

00:37:50.620 So what Doge is doing is wonderful in getting rid of these people, but these are sort of the front men, right?

00:37:56.880 The actual players are the Normizans of the world, the Mark Zades of the world, 0.90

00:38:00.880 and I think that's why USAID touched such a nerve.

00:38:04.520 But in sum, I think what you're talking about, and frankly, to link it back to what you saw go on today with, you know,

00:38:10.180 Macron, the meeting that they had, you're seeing a reformulation, much like they're talking about, right,

00:38:15.340 abolishing the DOE, abolishing all these agencies.

00:38:18.000 You're abolishing the civil service deep state idea of what it means for Americans to be an American abroad, right?

00:38:27.080 We are abolishing the globalist conception of what America is because we've realized we can't reform it just like we can't reform the DOE, the FBI.

00:38:38.000 They've been weaponized.

00:38:39.340 They are designed to destroy this country.

00:38:41.980 And that is why everything that you're seeing go on today is so historic, right?

00:38:46.680 You're reformulating what it means to be America on the world stage, and the USAID stuff was the first flashpoint in that.

00:38:54.080 Yeah.

00:38:55.040 Very powerful.

00:38:56.900 CNN had a story today, the lead story this morning, that really took my breath away.

00:39:02.220 They were talking about either the DOGE and or the John Ratcliffe, Tulsi Gabbard rethinking of the intel.

00:39:10.940 And really, as you know, we really want to go after the deep state, that it could leave so many people that had classified information out there to be a national security threat to the United States.

00:39:21.400 And I thought, wow, is this – are they actually saying that out loud?

00:39:26.540 I mean, it's pretty stunning that the holding us hostage to actually taking apart the administrative state or the deep state because they're saying, hey, these people have so much information, so much knowledge how the government works,

00:39:39.920 and in the CIA case, so much highly classified information that they could be a threat to national security.

00:39:47.560 Your thoughts, ma'am?

00:39:48.360 Well, I think it's quite obviously sort of this idea of predictive programming, right, in the same way that they use the whole bird flu fear-mongering narrative to try to nuke the RFK confirmation.

00:39:59.480 Now they sort of want this idea out there that if any intel documents or any classified documents are supposed to leak, that that's President Trump's fault.

00:40:07.140 And frankly, Steve, I think that this all fits in quite nicely with the paradigm of what we have always hammered, which is the idea that sort of the three key instruments that the norm eyes and color revolution people have used to sort of undermine President Trump has always been the idea of getting at his legitimacy and undermining his authority.

00:40:24.200 And I think that the attacks, right, the idea that you would have the intel community leaking either against him or just in general threatening America's national security.

00:40:32.900 I'm sure you can already see that chyron up on the screen.

00:40:35.640 I mean, that's something that because they can't impeach him and they don't have traditional levers of power, I mean, it's a full-blown military-grade psyop, right?

00:40:42.500 It's the idea that when President Trump is in control, they like to say America is less safe.

00:40:47.520 I'm sorry, President Trump has, what, been in office?

00:40:49.960 We're coming on a little after 30 days.

00:40:51.800 All the people who, what, for four years told us that we needed Joe Biden were the same people who mocked President Trump and said he was going to embarrass us on the world stage.

00:41:00.660 The United Nations, for the first time after 119 Security Council meetings where all they did was continue to fan the flames of the Russia-Ukraine war, for the first time ever, has put out a joint statement between Russia and Ukraine calling for, imagine this, peace instead of continued death.

00:41:15.880 That's a huge win for President Trump.

00:41:17.640 Sure, the UN is irrelevant, but it shows you how he is actively changing the perception, not just of America, but global affairs on the world stage so that all they can throw at him are these, like, CNN, I was about to say CIA, I guess that's a Freudian slip, psyops, because that's all they have, the media, and they have to undermine his credibility and, you know, continue on that dictator trope somehow.

00:41:38.240 So they're going to do it by trying to act like President Trump is a threat to your national security from the very same people who, what, let an invasion of this country to the tune of 15 million people happen in the last four years.

00:41:51.860 One of the powers of your reporting has been you focus on personalities in back of these and expose what their motives are, like the Norm Eisen's and Mark Elias of the world.

00:42:00.980 Tell me about, we got a minute here, I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:42:02.960 Tell me about Mark Zaid.

00:42:04.200 He's also a piece of work, is he not, ma'am?

00:42:06.920 Well, this is how you know we hit a nerve here in the war room.

00:42:11.080 I quote tweeted that article we were just talking about, and Mark Zaid decided to attack me, saying that I lacked basic reading comprehension skills.

00:42:19.480 I, of course, shot back.

00:42:20.740 I said, well, my reading comprehension is so good, I remember reading all the YouTube videos, like the young Disney girls, whose videos you used to like about them becoming, and I quote, women.

00:42:30.180 So I remembered that well enough.

00:42:32.120 But it shows you that we've hit a nerve.

00:42:34.060 And frankly, Steve, these people are not used to being called out because it's a very left-wing media tactic to link names to these agendas, right?

00:42:43.720 And I'm happy to culturally appropriate that.

00:42:45.820 But you need to know people like Mark Zaid, people like Norm Eisen, the deep state.

00:42:50.080 These people have names and phone numbers and addresses.

00:42:52.880 The people who are trying to destroy this country, it's very clear who they are.

00:42:57.460 We don't have to treat them like they're this nebulous entity.

00:43:00.540 When they're not used to getting called out, and you can see the second that they get one marginal quote tweet, they melt down.

00:43:05.800 And Natalie, hang on, because we're going to talk about judges and people around judges when we return, because the courts have been a way that they're trying to slow down the president.

00:43:16.840 So far, as we've said, the president's had a pretty strong hand.

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00:43:22.720 His executive actions are pretty tight.

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00:45:42.380 Natalie, the judges.

00:45:44.100 You've done a little research on some of these judges.

00:45:47.340 They're not exactly disinterested, are they, ma'am?

00:45:52.600 Yeah.

00:45:53.260 Spare me the performative activism about being in a constitutional crisis.

00:45:57.400 These people have absolutely no regard for, I think, anything rooted to the founding of

00:46:01.600 this country, just the latest example of this being the judge up in Maryland who swatted

00:46:06.540 down President Trump's efforts to conduct ICE raids at churches or places of worship.

00:46:12.400 And it's so interesting, not only is this radical Obama appointee judge, you know the whole trope,

00:46:18.300 but I looked into his wife, who, believe it or not, was actually a member of the Biden regime,

00:46:23.420 working at some anti-racist outfit, making sure that employment law didn't discriminate.

00:46:28.180 But even more interesting, she actually has a track record of attacking President Trump 0.89

00:46:34.100 on his immigration policy in the press because she used to work for a very far-left, open

00:46:39.360 borders immigration group called the National Immigration Forum, whose top donor is, you

00:46:43.940 guessed it, George Soros' Open Society Foundation.

00:46:47.320 She was a vice president there. 0.82

00:46:48.640 This is a group that advocates outright, so you know how radical they truly are, for mass

00:46:53.540 amnesty of upwards of 11 million people.

00:46:56.780 Like I said, they oppose all border security.

00:46:59.300 She's a repeat Democrat donor, a far-left activist.

00:47:03.080 And this is who the media, when you read the story, they depict it as, oh, this judge is swatting

00:47:08.120 down, you know, the, oh, forever unconstitutional actions of President Trump.

00:47:13.160 This group is engaged in active lobbying efforts against President Trump and the policies that

00:47:19.300 the wife of the former VP of this group is now adjudicating on.

00:47:22.880 So this is all obviously lawfare.

00:47:24.840 They had four years to sharpen their knives.

00:47:26.480 They've been court shopping.

00:47:27.480 That's sort of the MO of all these resistance-type lawfare groups.

00:47:30.980 They know who to send their cases to.

00:47:32.980 But I think Congress needs to get together.

00:47:34.640 I know they're all putting out strongly worded tweets about how they want to impeach these

00:47:38.180 rogue and radical judges with very clear conflicts of interest.

00:47:41.160 But how about instead of tweeting about it and putting out the letters and holding hearings,

00:47:45.200 you actually do it?

00:47:46.300 I haven't really seen any action, which I guess we should come to expect from this Congress.

00:47:50.260 But someone needs to do something and actually impeach these judges who are having very, very

00:47:54.520 clear conflicts of interest and are radical activists.

00:47:57.500 I shouldn't even use the term judge.

00:47:59.520 They're activists masquerading as judges.

00:48:03.960 Folks, also, the budget resolution, did I even talk about this here?

00:48:09.140 Just the reconciliation.

00:48:12.000 Johnson's taking incoming from all sides.

00:48:14.960 Principally, it's about there's not enough really well-thought-through cuts to make this serious.

00:48:21.140 On the other hand, people are saying, hey, what you're cutting is like, for instance, Medicaid.

00:48:24.780 You've got to be careful about this because you're going to affect tons of working-class people.

00:48:28.840 So it's a balancing act.

00:48:30.380 But that whole returning to the court of Congress is really about to come for the first time, Natalie.

00:48:37.320 We're going to have a firestorm.

00:48:38.560 Rachel Maddow kicks off her week this week with Hakeem Jeffries.

00:48:42.900 So the whole resistance you've seen in the courts, you've seen this performative outside,

00:48:46.520 but you've seen the color revolution folks planning and plotting.

00:48:50.520 Now we're also going to return, particularly to the House, where it's going to heat up to,

00:48:56.000 like, you know, one million degrees this week.

00:48:58.800 Is it not, ma'am?

00:49:00.820 Sounds like it's time for the Warren Posse to get their marching orders ready.

00:49:04.140 I think they're going to be making a lot of phone calls.

00:49:05.860 But no, I mean, you're absolutely right.

00:49:08.140 I think that we were sort of ahead of the curve in this.

00:49:10.660 We added, in addition to the rhino category, the dinos, right?

00:49:13.880 The doge in name only, who all these people who wanted to have the photo ops and act like

00:49:18.400 they really cared about government, you know, cuts and spending.

00:49:21.100 All these people who lectured us on fiscal sanity and they were fiscal hawks for decades,

00:49:25.400 yet didn't want to do anything about USAID.

00:49:28.020 Now suddenly they're all late to the game.

00:49:29.960 But I think we need to hold their feet to the fire.

00:49:31.900 Some of the people who support the doge caucus are the largest war hawks and biggest advocates

00:49:36.840 for continuing to give money to Ukraine.

00:49:39.860 And that's, of course, just one small issue.

00:49:42.180 But you see it.

00:49:42.800 They use, right, the issue of China as sort of a neocon deflection talking point to say,

00:49:47.040 look, we need to be tough on China. 0.97

00:49:48.780 So ergo, we have to spend all of your taxpayer dollars defeating China. 0.98

00:49:52.360 When in reality, where have we actually come on that front?

00:49:55.740 By the way, just a fun fact.

00:49:57.120 I was looking today, Ukraine, which is so important to fund, right?

00:50:00.600 Because in the name of democracy and soft power against China, do you know who Ukraine's 0.69

00:50:05.120 number one export of military equipment and arms is to?

00:50:08.360 It's to none other than the Chinese Communist Party to China.

00:50:11.300 So all of these talking points about soft power and all this stuff, it's complete BS.

00:50:16.480 It's complete lie to continue the gravy train that is the military industrial complex.

00:50:20.740 And they're getting called out right now.

00:50:22.620 And make no mistake, Steve, they're not just upset about the aid packages ending.

00:50:27.020 They're melting down because they know that when the audits start,

00:50:31.040 it's not just going to trace back to Over and McLean and all the defense contracting firms.

00:50:35.840 It's going to go to the House of Representatives and all the, you know,

00:50:39.220 Mike Rogers and those types of the world who, in the name of democracy, have sold this country out.

00:50:46.400 Natalie, what is your social media, ma'am?

00:50:49.380 Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.

00:50:52.240 Thank you for having me.

00:50:54.660 Thank you, ma'am.

00:50:55.760 Natalie Winters, Whitehurst Correspondent.

00:50:57.080 It's about to get very gnarly.

00:50:59.060 We haven't had a chance with everything going on geo strategically to get into the details of what's happened over the last 48 hours.

00:51:07.760 But the budget, the reconciliation of budget, the one big beautiful bill is already taking on water.

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00:51:36.280 I'm not so sure they've got these huge numbers.

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00:52:46.260 Thank you, brother.

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Bannon's War Room - February 25, 2025

Episode 4293： Macron Pushes Security In Ukraine; Federal Employees Plot Against Trump Admin.

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