Episode 4308： MAGA Leads The New Media Landscape; Secure The Border, Get Rid Of Cartels, Deport Millions
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On today's show, Alex Blumberg joins me to talk about the MAGA Media Ecosystem and why it's one of the most powerful and influential ecosystems in the world. We talk about how powerful it is, why it exists, and what it means for the future of the country.
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Let's talk. Let's walk through this. A lot of people that aren't familiar with this MAGA media
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universe might say, oh, you know, conservatives and people who support Donald Trump go to Fox
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News. Actually, it's much, much bigger than that. Walk us through it. Yeah, I've been struck in the
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last couple of months, even when I'm talking to CEOs or people in media, how little they understand
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the depth and breadth of kind of the MAGA media ecosystem. It is big. It is powerful. It is
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organized. And it operates so much differently than your traditional media ecosystem and that
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they see this as information warfare. And we might think about it as like one or two names like Don
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Jr. or Charlie Kirk. But it's a massive, massive ecosystem. You see a lot of it on X. So anyone
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who goes to X, formerly Twitter, you see a lot of these people. But beneath it is where all the
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activity is, if you go to YouTube, if you listen to podcasts, if you go to Rumble, if you go to
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Instagram, if you go on TikTok, if you go to any place where most people in America congregate for
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their information and news, and I think the two end up blending together, megastars have way more
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clout, way more authority than most of the household names that your viewers are used to following. And
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they cut across all of these platforms. So they'll have huge followings for their podcasts.
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You look at podcasts on any given week, and that's how a lot of people get the best majority
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of their news. You look at that top 10 ranking, you'd be hard pressed to find one liberal. And
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you're often going to find five or six people from the mega media infrastructure in there and on that
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list. And then that content moves to YouTube, moves across TikTok, moves across Instagram, and they have a
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very shared common worldview. So even if you're thinking about your program today, where you're the
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interpretation that you guys have talked about of the Zelensky meeting, it's a different universe.
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If you go into MAGA, they think that they think that Vance was a hero and a tough guy. And they
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think that Trump was a master of the universe and that Zelensky was disrespectful in both his tone
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and his wardrobe. And they're all in. And that's kind of the ecosystem that sits and is kind of the
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Last week, where you actually had this MAGA ecosystem split. You got a lot of people very
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angry about Andrew Tate, his brother coming back to the United States. You had a lot of people in
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the MAGA universe very upset about the Epstein files. And there seemed to be a split between these
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three different groups that you point out. Take us through those three groups.
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Yeah. I mean, the big one is like the true MAGA meat eaters, like their full MAGA, whether it's
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like a Steve Bannon or a Charlie Cook or Charlie Kirk or a Don Jr. Like they are, they are unified on
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almost all of these topics. There is kind of a middle of MAGA, which is like mostly MAGA folks that
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you see, like someone like Hugh Hewitt, who used to be pretty conventionally conservative, who now would
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kind of fall into that category. And then the big one is like MAGA adjacent. And that would be like
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the Joe Rogans of the world, where they're not inherently political, not always political, but
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have become very MAGA over the last 18 months. And I think one of the reasons Trump won the election
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and surprised people was this merger of MAGA media with what I would consider kind of the bro longevity
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industrial complex that kind of that Rogan universe, or even a Huberman, who's a, who's a pretty famous
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longevity guy who increasingly is, is you find himself injecting himself into politics on X. And
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it's the three of those in totality that do have a lot of cloud. And yes, they have edge cases like
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the Tate brothers coming back to the U S where there's some disagreement, but, but for the most part,
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they don't allow that much disagreement and they use information. And I think this is the thing that,
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that Democrats are wrestling with right now. They don't look at it as news. They don't look at it as
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information. They look at it as information warfare, and they look at it having each other's back and
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being on each other's shows and going after anybody who's a critic. It's one of the big explanations of
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why you got Senate confirmation for every single person Trump wanted, because you do not want to be
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in the vortex of the mega industrial complex. If you're on the wrong side of it, because they will
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come after you and their people are listening and watching and reading them.
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There, there used to be a presence for, uh, liberals. Uh, uh, they, they did fairly well online,
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but they don't there. There is, as Jim said, you look at the top podcasts, you look at the top,
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you know, what, what, uh, accounts are getting the most hits. It's usually it's, it's these MAGA
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accounts. Yeah. I mean, what Jim's describing, you know, in terms of an industry is also in many
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ways, the media apparatus of a cult and functioning as media that, that broadcast lies convinces people
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to hate is built on a brainwashing function. So that when the humiliation and the disgrace of
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Friday, as we were talking about happens, there is ready for them, a bunch of millions of people
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who will, who will see it in a reality distortion field that has been created. And I think it's
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incredibly important. You're right. That, that people who are on the pro democracy side in this
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country, build up a media apparatus that can, the word I've used again and again is, is help people
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make meaning, right? Meaning doesn't make itself when, when an event like Friday happens, uh, in the
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Oval Office, the meaning of that is not self-generating. And if you have this giant
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apparatus that Jim's describing, that is helping people make one meaning of it, a meaning that is
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favorable to Vladimir Putin, favorable to the Kremlin, and you don't really have, you know,
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democratic politicians certainly, but also not a, a giant new media apparatus on the pro democracy
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side that helps people make a different meaning that helps people remind people of what the United
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States has been, what it has stood up for in Eastern Europe, et cetera. Uh, then you're just
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ceding the territory. And this is a week. I just don't believe we can see this, this new media territory.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the
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world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
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that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a
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conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Monday, 3 March in the year of our Lord, 2025. We're on the eve of tomorrow. President Trump's
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address to Congress. It's not really technically a state of the union because, you know, when you have
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the, uh, your initial inauguration, since it's only a couple of weeks after they don't consider
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a state of the union, but an initial address to Congress, but it'll be the same trappings
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as a state of the union. Very important. President Trump, uh, thrown down today that he's going to,
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um, uh, put people on blast. Uh, and it goes back to right there. You saw Jim Vanderhay
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of Axios, the co-founder of Axios. And one thing about Vanderhay
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for our audience to understand, he and Mike Allen were the two guys, I think it was the Washington
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Post that pitched the idea of a, of a politics only section for the post. And it was rejected,
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my understanding, by post management and the owners back in, um, you know, 20 years ago,
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I think the all Britain family, uh, stepped in that went to them. And that was the formation of
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Politico. Those two guys founded Politico, which really changed political reporting in our nation's
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capital and throughout the country, something just focused on politics, intense focus on politics.
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Then, uh, they, they cashed out. Ultimately, Politico was sold for a couple of billion dollars.
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I think it was over a billion dollars to a German, uh, publisher. It's now controlled by the Germans
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or owned by the Germans. They would say they give free editorial control, but obviously that's not true.
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And, uh, Jim and Mike, who are two of the smartest guys when it comes to media and particularly new
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media, then went and founded Axios and Axios is the conventional wisdom. It is the, it's the,
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and their whole thing is about brevity. They want all the information to get to,
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and they want to get to you quickly. So if you go to Axios and Axios is free, I recommend everybody
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out there, uh, put the Axios on your, um, on your list of things to read every day because it gives
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you the conventional wisdom of the imperial capital about what's, what's going on. They have done a
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huge report, uh, but they have not released it just to their corporate clients. I think it is on
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mega media. And you saw right there, Jim Vanderhay on, um, on morning Joe and Jim Vanderhay,
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very, very different than Anon, you know, and I, Oh, it's a cult. This is all propaganda. It's made
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to, you know, for foreign people. Remember all this podcast, all the streaming, real America's
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voice, the war room, uh, the Jack, Jack, Charlie Kirk, none of this was done with corporate money.
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It was all done kind of bootstrap. And because the content was so compelling and people, and people
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had different takes on how they did it from Bongino to, you know, to,
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to Charlie Kirk, uh, to Jack Posovic. Uh, now we've got Eric Bolling. You have so many
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names out there and different, different takes on things that, um, you know, Pete and Ted Cruz
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has got a great podcast. You, you've got a, uh, with, uh, with a brother, Ben, uh, Ben Ferguson.
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Um, this was all done because people are thirsting for this information. They're thirsting. And it
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is information warfare. There's no doubt about that narrative setting. This is how, this is how
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the corporatists, the, the rulers of this country, the Lords of easy money on wall street. Uh, this
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is how they've controlled this nation by giving you a very one-sided view of the world. The most
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important thing was said today on morning, Joe and with Vander Hay is that they actually
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described, and he talked about talking to corporate CEOs of which they, you know, Vander Hay and
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Allen cater to is that don't think that Fox news drives the agenda here. Don't think Fox news drives,
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uh, what's really important. Fox news is kind of, uh, is kind of old school in that way. It's very
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passive that this new, uh, what these new developments are is really information. It is
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information warfare. We freely admit that, but the information we put up because we do look at both
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sides, right? Of an issue. We'd go, I shouldn't say both sides. We look at every side of an issue
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to get to the truth and look at our track record over the last couple of years. And let's take
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specifically, let's take the thing, uh, the question to two questions of the day or three
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questions of the day, uh, Ukraine, 100% right from the very beginning, 1000% right from the very
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beginning and millions of lives would have been, uh, been saved in the destruction of a nation
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of a country like, uh, Ukraine, uh, would have been avoided, uh, on the border. Todd Benson is
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going to come on here. He's got an amazing report at CIS this morning. Todd will be with us, uh, in a
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couple of, a couple of segments from now. And Todd is saying, Hey, the border essentially has been,
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has been the, the, the crisis has been shut down in under 40 days. It didn't take the big
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legislature. Oh, you have this legislation, the Senate bill, the Senate bill is going to do it. No,
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we told you that was a lie at the time. It was a lie. Biden and these people say, Oh no,
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it's nothing you can do about it. It's deep causes. You have to get to, you have to get
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to core causes, right? Uh, no, you don't, don't have to do that at all. It's basically been secured
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and that does not include even Pete Hexeth calling up a striker, uh, the striker vehicles and another
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3000 combat troops and support troops to the border. Now over 12,000, as we've told you and teach
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you up, that is going to be for a kinetic part of the takedown of the cartels. The third is about
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the financial crisis in this country. Remember the three things we're talking about is what we've
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talked about, about stopping the kinetic part of the third world war, the ceiling, the border and
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the mass deportations in the middle of the existential threat is the financial situation. And on cue
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on the Hill newspaper today, what Johnson's saying now completely reverses what he said
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on Caitlin Collins the other day. And we told you this was going to happen. He's saying, well,
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you know, the doge cuts, I got to have a clean CR. It's going to be like a line long. We'll get to
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the doge cuts. We'll actually do those in the appropriations process. That'll be in June and
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July for next year. So we will match our track record against all the collective of the mainstream
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media, the corporate media or the progressive media. Let's add it up. This doesn't even include
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on the steel on Trump coming back on, on, on the, uh, on the impeachments on, um, the pandemic.
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It's not to tout our record. It's just to show that America's new day is built upon information.
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This is the way they've controlled you. And it's your agency, your human agency, not this show,
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your agency to take actionable information and to apply it to your personal life, to your financial
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life, to your family life, to your community. And ultimately in the great awakening and getting
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red pilled people who for their entire lives are not engaged in politics are now engaged in
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politics and a force to be reckoned with. The reason Jim Vanderhay did that for corporate America
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is they're nervous. They're scared. As I told you at CPAC, they don't understand you, uh, and they can't
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destroy what they don't understand. And that's this frantic, frantic movement. It is a great compliment
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It is happening before our eyes, the criminalization of the White House. I think, you know, so much has
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happened since January 20th, but I think that Friday meeting hit people who watched it in a way
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that very few things have because it felt like the kind of, it felt like to me the kind of end of the
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free world as a concept and a construct that the United States is involved with. Right. Isn't it
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interesting how that, when you looked at what happened in London the next day, suddenly it
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looked like, you know, Ronald Reagan saying America was a city shining brightly on the hill for all the
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world to see, talking about pushing back against Russian aggression, Russian expansion. Suddenly it
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looked like that center had been ceded to Tim Downing Street. And centering him. Yeah.
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Keir Starmer got to have his love actually moment. He had his love. Hugh Graham finally develops a
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little backbone. You saw King Charles III actually not shocked that Zelensky dressed a good bit like
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Winston Churchill in World War II at times. Oh, wow. It's an incredible, incredible moment. I think
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David's piece is so beautiful and haunting. And this moment, it feels like the end of something and the
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beginning of something else, the end of a moment where you could talk about the American.
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It is, it is, this, this is the nonsense. This is why the, um, the ecosystem of the podcasts of the
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right, of the right, um, in the MAGA movement of President Trump are so powerful. That's so weak.
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That's just all nonsense and crap. They take no responsibility. I want to make sure we focus on
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where we are. There are a million dead or wounded Ukrainians. The Ukrainian parents of young men,
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18 to 26 years old, I guess young men and women, because they drafted women too, have really stood
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that stand, stood up and said, no more. You're not taking our kids and throwing them into the
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charnel house for this corrupt oligarchy. Zelensky's, I think it's 16%. The reason they won't have
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elections. There's 800,000. And this is Ian Bremmer who, so there's not President Trump.
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Ian Bremmer tells me 800,000 dead or wounded Russian troops. And Ian is a guy that very much
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focuses on the math. So 800,000, it's almost 2 million. And please remember, because they do
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not teach World War II correctly. From the invasion of Poland, 1939, which I don't think is actually
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really the start of the war, but it's the historical, what people think is the start
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of the war. So in September of 1939, the German invasion of Poland till June of 1941, the German
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invasion of Russia, the Wehrmacht's invasion of Russia, of which the bloodlands was down at
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a place called Ukraine. In that two-year period with the Polish invasion, then the invasion of
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France by the German army, sweeping through Europe, Europe collapsed, the blitz over London, everything
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that happened in North Africa with the French and the French fleet. You add all that up, it's nothing
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compared. It's nothing compared to what has happened in Ukraine. Ukraine is the beginning
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part of, we're in the kinetic part of the Third World War and the Eurasian landmass. You add
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the Muslim Brotherhood's attack, sneak attack on Israel on October 7th. We are. And we have
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preached that gospel from day one and saying, hey, this has to stop or it will metastasize
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because wars, whether it's the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War II, or anywhere
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you see, they tend towards annihilation. Why? They become almost vendettas. President Trump
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has seen that from the beginning. None of this would have happened if they hadn't stolen the
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election, if the apparatus, the deep state, had not stolen the election from President Trump
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in 2020. They want the forever wars. Yep. They want the forever wars. And that's why President
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Trump is trying to stop it. And you saw, and here's why, and I told you on Friday when it
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happened, Zelensky going to the Hay Adams Hotel, and they accused that now of just being Democrats.
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There were Republicans there too. That whole click in the Senate, the pro-war click, completely
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owned by the arms industry. Zelensky thought he had the cards. This is why the phrase that
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Trump continues to use, you don't have any cards. You don't have any cards. You have no
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leverage. You're just a punk. We cannot and must not re-engage with them and the Europeans.
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Storming these guys yesterday, it's all smack talk. It has no meaning. The people in Europe
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are never going to back this up. They're going to turf all these guys out, as they've already
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turfed out a couple of the governments. Italy, France, Spain, Germany, England. They're all
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on the verge of a sovereign debt crisis. Their economies are sputtering. They're not even
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really first world industrial powers anymore. Germany's de-industrialized. Their economy has
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shrunk by 5%. These countries are virtually in economic distress. The only reason they had
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the free health care, the pension when you're in your 50s, the six weeks vacation, full paid
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vacation over the summer is because of you. You underwrite their defense. Call their bluff.
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If they thought Russia was such a thing, they would pay two or three or four. Trump says 5%.
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They don't. They won't pay 2%. They want you to underwrite it. We're out. We're not going
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to do it. We'll be an ally, but we're not going to be, we're not going to treat you like
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a vassal state and like a protectorate. Not going to do it anymore. All of NATO ex the United
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Kingdom cannot put up two combat divisions. It's a joke. I told you from the beginning what
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they were going to do and what Zelensky was going to do. He needs a security guarantee. He needs
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your sons and daughters. They need your sons and daughters as hostages in Ukraine and unlimited
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amount of money. Hell, we spent $350 billion. What do we got? And who spent that? The only
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thing that came out of this was that Mitch McConnell was thrown out of being leader because he broke
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his pick on what topic? Ukraine. And this gets back to the first segment. It's just on the
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confirmation hearings. It's taking down the leadership of the RNC. It's removing McCarthy as
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Speaker. It's removing McConnell as leader. That was you. That was you. That was you.
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Your power is unlimited once you understand you actually have power. It's unlimited. And
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that's what they're freaking out. And the smart guys like Mike Allen, Jim Vanderhaef kind of
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looked at me and said, Hey, I think I see where the source, it's Trump and it's coming through.
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It's manifesting itself through these podcasts and these shows and networks like Real America's
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Voice. You have to remember what they talk about. We're banned everywhere. This show is consistently
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one of the top podcasts, but we're also, it's a podcast, but that's secondary. We broadcast
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live four hours a day, live four hours a day on Real America's Voice and the streaming services
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and other streaming services they put us up on. And we're banned everywhere.
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On, on, on, on, on Twitter, on Facebook, on YouTube, on Spotify. And I've never gone back
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and said, Oh, put his back on. No, since Trump won. I don't know. I did the, I detest these
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people because they think they have the control. Plus you're making a money. Screw them.
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The border. They were, they lied to them. Think about on Ukraine. They lied and they lied and they
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lied. And here's their arrogance. The blood's on their hands, the suffering that they caused the
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destruction of Ukraine that we said time and time again was going to happen assures the turning of
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the earth. They sit there in their arrogance and they talk big talk for what more destruction.
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It's not going to change where the British going to put 30,000 troops. They can't afford. They'll
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never put them. And if they put them, it's not going to change a thing. The thing for president
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Trump, this is why the minerals deal, I kept saying the minerals deal. First of all, I hated,
00:25:42.920
hate the deal. Hate it, hate everything about it. What I hate most is say, no offense.
00:25:48.080
When I look at it and president Trump is trying to be in a peacemaker. That's why he was trying to do
00:25:54.900
the deal. He's trying to be a peacemaker. He understands that his hardest core supporters
00:26:01.580
hate this, but that's what a leader does. We will acquiesce to president Trump because he's trying to,
00:26:10.500
he's trying to collect a lot of things and get down the piece, the path to peace. But I have said
00:26:17.700
to navigate it, forget them. That's a sideshow. That is a sideshow. That is a sideshow. What do you
00:26:24.020
mean? See, that's a sideshow. The thing that matters is the rapprochement with the Russians,
00:26:30.060
with the Russian people, as awful as the KGB is. And people say, well, how can you,
00:26:38.000
yo, in World War II, we would not have won if we didn't partner with some of the worst people on earth.
00:26:46.120
That was the Bolsheviks, the small group that controlled the Russian people. And guess what?
00:26:50.760
Since 65 million of them to their deaths, after they had starved 5 million people in Ukraine,
00:26:58.400
as evil and horrible as Hitler was, Joseph Stalin, the Bolsheviks were pretty damn close.
00:27:07.400
And yes, we pardoned them. Remember when they tried to, FDR tried to sell it at Uncle Joe,
00:27:13.740
like he's some nice guy, murderous psychopath. We pardoned with him. And in partnering with him,
00:27:21.580
and in partnering with Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong in China, we saved millions of American lives.
00:27:29.580
It is quite uncertain whether World War II had ever been brought to a close, unless we did that.
00:27:36.000
It is uncertain whether America would have taken those types of casualties. Just is. The British,
00:27:41.100
this is why D-Day was so late. The British were so, so, so, because of the destruction of World War I.
00:27:47.840
We're so hesitant to go back. That's why it was delayed year after year after year.
00:27:53.480
You must understand how we got here. And the lies of these people, and their arrogance,
00:28:02.240
and they're just flat out evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. So it's either us or them. There's no
00:28:11.540
compromise here. I've told you before, you cannot compromise with these people. There's nothing to
00:28:16.380
compromise about. We are right, and on the side of the angels, and they are wrong, and on the side
00:28:32.240
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00:28:44.820
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One thing, I got Ben's been on. Ben's has got a bolt, so I want to get him on first. I'll come back to
00:30:00.000
some of the media stuff later. But remember, this is about controlled opposition. Fox didn't do this.
00:30:05.540
Fox did not reverse this. Why? They're controlled opposition. The Murdochs are neoliberal neocons.
00:30:10.820
They're part of the problem. Fox is just to soothe you and make you feel like you're winning. When
00:30:18.680
you're not winning all, you're actually losing. You're actually losing.
00:30:25.960
The other is about connecting. Trump connects like no one else, has a visceral connection
00:30:30.400
audience. That, in a much smaller account for a different, is Vanderhae is like that all shucks.
00:30:35.560
When Vanderhae talks like that all shucks, kind of Wisconsin nice, there's a brain going there
00:30:43.000
a mile a minute, but he can connect. I've seen it. Whereas Joe Scarborough trying to do the same
00:30:49.480
thing. Oh, I'm a preacher, all this. I was a Republican. That's controlled. He's controlled
00:30:54.400
opposition. He's the manifestation of the Republican Party and what they were. Not what they are today,
00:31:01.640
what they were. And that's why we lost. The country did not get in shape just because of a bunch of
00:31:06.200
progressive Democrats and horrible billionaires and people in the deep state. They also had the
00:31:12.700
willing, they had the help and the assistance of the controlled opposition that just gave a wink
00:31:18.320
and threw out some stuff in the foreground so that you could play shiny toys. We don't do shiny toys
00:31:25.120
here. So today it's, it's the connect, it's the third world war, President Trump trying to stop it
00:31:31.060
and do a strategic realignment that sets the direction of the 21st century and leads to the
00:31:37.340
ultimate breaking of the Chinese Communist Party. And their sidekicks, the mullahs in Persia.
00:31:45.120
And I'm now more convinced than ever, we got to keep, we got to start calling it Persia.
00:31:50.040
The Iran thing is a total misdirection play. You must call it Persia, the ancient enemy of the West.
00:31:57.160
The ancient enemy of the West. Todd Benzman, you had a called shot and I cannot give you enough
00:32:05.260
accolades. And the reason is you did the hard work of going like with Benzman and Michael Yan and
00:32:11.940
Oscar Blue Ramirez and others to do all that dangerous work from the Darien Gap all the way
00:32:17.480
through southern Mexico, central Mexico, northern Mexico. For years, you wrote the book that changed
00:32:24.180
the direction of this about the lies of the Biden administration. But you called it and you said,
00:32:28.940
hey, this could all be taken, this could all be done in a month. And maybe it took up, maybe it took a week
00:32:35.200
longer than a month, but you nailed it. So tell me about, you got a major report out today from CIS.
00:32:41.420
Tell us about this report. I want everybody to read it. And more important, I want everyone to share it.
00:32:45.540
What do you got, sir? Well, I'm declaring it officially that the mass migration event
00:32:53.160
of 2021 to 2025 is over. Mike Banks, the Border Patrol chief, the new one, just put out the number
00:33:04.080
for February, 8,326 apprehensions for the month of February. It's not officially released yet,
00:33:12.600
but he tweeted it out as the lowest number in U.S. recorded history. And you should know by,
00:33:20.540
for contrast, that February of 2021 was the, one of the biggest numbers in U.S. history. March was
00:33:28.220
actually the biggest number in U.S. history. And then we went on for three years of breaking all
00:33:33.220
those records nonstop. So the, the border. But hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Stop,
00:33:40.380
stop, stop, stop, stop. 8,000 for February. When you say that highest month, what's the number? Give
00:33:46.140
me the number. Compare it. I want to say that in, well, the highest month that we ever had was December
00:33:53.460
of 2023. And if you count the parolees that were, that they were flying in and bringing in over the
00:34:01.620
border, in addition to the illegal crossings, it was pushing close to 400,000 in a month, 400,000.
00:34:10.940
Okay. Hold it. Stop. Stop. 400,000 versus 8,000. 400,000 versus 8,000. That's the invasion.
00:34:21.560
Now, Todd, how was that invasion? We were told the Senate and they hit Trump on this show. We fought
00:34:27.920
that fricking Senate bill every day because there's nothing but an amnesty bill, but in your face,
00:34:32.580
the media and Fox news and MSNBC and all of them, this was the thing was going to shut down. And by
00:34:38.800
Trump opposing it and war room opposing it and getting people up on the ramparts and opposing
00:34:43.660
and daring those senators to vote for it and even backing Lanford, that gutless coward off.
00:34:48.480
And by the way, people in Oklahoma should be ashamed that that gutless coward represents you.
00:34:55.540
It was all a lie. And all the original deep causes, you know, Kamala Harris, right? Original cause,
00:35:01.320
all a lie. Everything you were told was a bald-faced lie. What did it take, Todd, to get it down to
00:35:07.540
8,000 a month from 400,000 a month, sir? Right. I mean, Senate bill, Senate bill,
00:35:13.340
Senate bill, root causes, root causes, root causes. I never want to hear it again. Nobody
00:35:18.920
can intellectually can ever claim that any of those things, comprehensive immigration reform,
00:35:25.220
broken border, all of that completely laid waste to, is in the dung heap of intellectual
00:35:33.580
immigration studies and theory. All that it ever took, all that we knew that it would ever take
00:35:40.320
is detention, expulsion, and deportation in a consistent, you know, in a consistent even-handed
00:35:50.900
way all along the border in accordance with the law. The law requires those things. That's it.
00:35:58.960
That's all that it took. Why? Because no immigrant that I've ever met or aspiring illegal alien that
00:36:07.560
I've ever met, and I've met thousands and interviewed them, is going to lay $10,000 in smuggling fees
00:36:15.540
on the green felt gambling table if they know they're going to not get in and that they're not going to
00:36:22.120
stay in. They're staying home. Nobody's dropping that kind of cash if they're not going to get in.
00:36:27.600
It's just that simple. It's always been that simple.
00:36:32.920
Now, I want to make sure, because you say it's the end of the crisis, that's the initial crisis
00:36:37.000
of the invasion part. We still have to permanently secure the border, permanently, right? So we don't
00:36:43.000
need combat troops down there all the time. Then we have phase next, which is the destruction of the
00:36:49.320
cartels and then the mass deportation of 10 million people, correct? So let's go back to phase one.
00:36:55.780
What is your advice to the president? It's like in Normandy. If they stopped us on the beach,
00:37:04.400
you've stopped them coming across the beach and getting a beachhead. What do you do now to
00:37:08.600
permanently seal it and make sure that this can never happen again?
00:37:13.920
Well, first of all, I want to put to bed this idea that's floating around in the Washington Post and
00:37:19.060
the New York Times that, wow, look, nobody's coming across. Why is Trump doing putting military down
00:37:24.620
there? Why is Trump wanting to build the wall when nobody's coming? The administration has to,
00:37:33.020
I think, as you said, full gas, no break. You cannot relent on any of the things, even for a minute,
00:37:41.520
that he put in place down there on the border, or it will reverse. You got to keep the chemo
00:37:47.980
flowing. You got to keep the radiation on or the cancer's coming back. So I just want to get that out
00:37:53.540
of the way. But number two is we have a massive cleanup mess in the interior. They've got to,
00:38:01.060
the next step is the mass deportation program. We need the $175 billion to fund it. The Biden
00:38:10.760
administration very systematically dismantled the deportation detention machine. It's in parts all
00:38:19.140
over the place. They closed detention facilities and shut down funding for bed space and canceled the
00:38:26.040
private detention center contracts. So they have to rebuild in order to, and also expand beyond
00:38:37.180
criminal aliens. Unfortunately, they're going to have to take heat. I think they're prepared to
00:38:42.780
take heat by expanding that to millions of people that just waltzed in here and they're out there
00:38:49.680
living and walking around. They didn't do anything criminal, but they're here illegally. They're
00:38:55.460
eventually going to have to start pulling them, uprooting them and deporting them. The system,
00:39:02.220
that system is already in play. They are rebuilding that. It's not going to take all that long. They
00:39:08.520
just need money and a little bit of time. Just chill. It's going to happen. And thirdly, you know,
00:39:15.420
Trump talks about fentanyl and the cartels. That is also shaping up to be a, we're early, just we're early
00:39:25.180
on that, but it's shaping up. We stopped drug trafficking and fentanyl coming in over the
00:39:31.840
border. Trump has vowed to eliminate, totally eliminate the cartels. We'll, I don't know if
00:39:37.720
he's going to be able to do that, but if he can shut down a lot of the fentanyl and reduce the
00:39:43.820
overdose deaths over the next two, three years, that will be a huge win for the country. Nobody wants to
00:39:50.920
see that. And everybody wants to see those cartels.
00:39:55.780
Yeah. Hang on. He intends, they're putting the strikers to tell me, Pete Hexeth has got 12,000
00:40:03.460
combat troops in our logistics, logistics to back combat down on the Southern border. And we already
00:40:09.880
know we've kind of shut that down. And part of it's because that, but they're there for a different
00:40:14.760
reason. You got the, you got the CIA assets, you've got the, you've got the targeting going around.
00:40:20.260
Should, is your recommendation, Todd Benzman, that the cartel leaders should go read about how
00:40:25.560
Trump took down ISIS in, uh, in about five months in 2017 to their total physical destruction? Uh, and
00:40:34.360
maybe they should, uh, savvy up and surrender, sir. Yeah, they're not surrendering. They're going to
00:40:40.820
fight, uh, just expect, expect warfare. If they, uh, I mean, it's already happening. It's already
00:40:47.800
starting to ramp up down there. Uh, but the point of having military on this side may not be to, uh,
00:40:56.580
catch illegal immigrants or even drug traffickers. It may very well be to prevent, to present a credible
00:41:03.300
retaliatory threat against the cartels when, or if they decide to, uh, cross our border and do things
00:41:12.100
to our people. You've got, uh, you know, mobile, uh, light infantry, uh, you know, the 10th mountain
00:41:19.060
divisions are 500 of them are already in Fort Huachuca. They can't just be there to do illegal
00:41:25.540
immigration interdiction. I'm sorry. They got these gigantic strikers that they're moving in. They've got
00:41:31.460
Marines. They've got, I mean, they are fully equipped and hopefully they don't have to use
00:41:37.140
them, but the cartels need to understand going forward. What do you mean? What do you mean?
00:41:42.480
Hopefully, what do you mean? What do you mean? Hopefully you can take a, but I do agree with
00:41:46.800
your theory. We got, hang on. We got to do the economic part. We got to shut down the bankers,
00:41:50.680
which you call the company. I a hundred percent agree, but these bad hombres only at the end of the
00:41:56.380
they understand where, look, they got heads rolling around the streets outside of, in Tijuana,
00:42:00.440
Oscar blue Ramirez said, they're trying to intimidate the people in, in, in, in Mexico.
00:42:05.660
This is a little bit like the mag seven, the magnificent seven. Eventually you've got to go
00:42:10.760
in the wild bunch. Eventually you're going to have to go down there and you're going to have to kill
00:42:14.800
some bad hombres, sir. You agree? Yeah. Well, something's up. Uh, you know, you have the,
00:42:21.400
the, uh, you know, the president saying, and also Tom Homan and others in the administration saying
00:42:28.380
things like our policy toward the cartels is total elimination. What that means. Uh, I don't
00:42:35.800
exactly know yet. I don't think any of us do, but maybe initially, I know, hold it. I know,
00:42:41.960
I know total, when Trump says total elimination, ask ISIS, ask ISIS in, in, in the, ask the ISIS
00:42:50.740
caliphate what total elimination means. It means total elimination and dead bad guys and destroyed
00:42:58.100
infrastructure, like total elimination, take him, take him at his word. Am I going to lose you? Can I
00:43:03.520
hold you through another segment? You got to bounce. Tell me. Um, yeah, I can, I can, I can go for
00:43:10.140
another five or 10. Okay. That's it. That's okay. Fine. I'm going to go to commercial break.
00:43:15.440
Hang on. It's too good. Benjamin, when he says total elimination, Trump means total elimination.
00:43:22.860
You're right. They've got light infantry in the strikers. They got 12,000 combat troops or combat
00:43:28.700
logistics troops on the Southern border. And they're not there to stop 8,000 people coming across in a
00:43:34.240
month. That's a done deal. Short break back in the war in a moment.
00:43:40.140
We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the CCP.
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Okay, here's what we're going to do is Todd's going to rejoin us. He had to bounce because I got to spend
00:45:36.480
more time. Todd's going to rejoin us and we're going to go through a lot of this, I think, at 6 o'clock
00:45:40.620
tonight because it's too important. I want to make sure, Grace, make sure everybody, and this is why we put
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00:46:03.580
But here's three parts. What Todd Benzman is saying is within 40 days, President Trump has
00:46:11.860
effectively sealed the border. Now, it's not going to stay so you need to, you know, you need
00:46:18.100
constant vigilance. You need to build the wall. We need all that. The New York Times, of course,
00:46:23.080
the Washington Post saying, well, it's all done now. Everybody can come home. No, that's because
00:46:26.680
we've four deployed people. Now, it's, you know, the DPS in Texas. All of a sudden, Abbott's got
00:46:32.680
religion. All these guys have religion, old-time religion because of President Trump. But it
00:46:37.860
showed the lie of, oh, you need this big bill. The big bill Lankford had, and this is why Lankford
00:46:44.320
should be ashamed of himself and, quite frankly, to me, is a disgrace because he was the wolf
00:46:51.280
they put the sheep's clothing on. That whole Senate bill was a lie. It's nothing but amnesty.
00:46:55.200
And President Trump told you exactly how, and he did it. Now, that has to be primally
00:47:01.040
put in, but it goes from 400,000 in the worst month back in December of 23, which wasn't
00:47:07.020
that long ago, folks, what, 13 months ago? 400,000 in a month down to 8,000. The two
00:47:14.440
hardest parts, though, are to come, the destruction of the cartels. And when President Trump says
00:47:18.680
total annihilation, total destruction, the cartel leaders should check with how that worked
00:47:24.340
out for the ISIS caliphate, which, remember, we were told by Obama, these guys are going
00:47:28.520
to take a generation, didn't take a generation, took President Trump directing Mattis, I think,
00:47:33.420
to under six months to leave a smoking pile of embers.
00:47:41.800
Then the mass deportations. And I will tell you, folks, people getting wobbly on that. This
00:47:47.340
is just not insane asylums. It's just not the criminals. It's just not. It's 10 million have
00:47:51.900
got to go. Hispanic families and African-American men and women are not going to get salaries
00:47:59.500
in the lower skilled areas and not going to be able to get into jobs and get them higher
00:48:06.420
skills and higher pay while you have this massive contingent here of illegal aliens that were
00:48:15.040
So, so much is happening geopolitically. This another week where decades happen. Told you
00:48:23.420
last week was going to be one, and it was. Now we're getting close to, of course, everybody,
00:48:29.400
the Hill newspaper and Punchbowl, Jake Sherman, everybody, the lead story. What's the lead
00:48:37.080
And Mike Johnson doesn't know which way he's going, telling Caitlin Collins, yeah, we're going
00:48:40.660
to have anomalies. We're going to get to all the doge thing. Now he's saying, no, no, no,
00:48:43.560
no. I just need a one line, you know, to a, a, a, a CR that's going to go for a full year
00:48:49.620
and we'll get to doge in summer. Uh, we'll put in the appropriate surprise of the 26. No,
00:48:54.440
dude, that dog is not, that dog is not going to hunt, does not hunt. It's redonkulous.
00:49:02.140
You expect us to pay for all the waste for our abuse. And also Elon, we got to see some numbers
00:49:07.940
because they put out, and I'm not saying it's because of our constant harping, far be it
00:49:12.140
from me, but I've noticed this kind of cricket since they crossed the Potomac, kind of crickets.
00:49:19.520
They've just put out, they're going to have DOD, a preliminary, I think, DOD report tomorrow.
00:49:24.740
So we'll get to it, but it's put up or shut up time. We understand all your work's not done,
00:49:30.020
but we got to know what you found and what's going to come out and we're not going to fund
00:49:33.200
it. It can't be funded. So Mike Johnson, those guys got to realize.
00:49:37.940
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