Bannon's War Room - Episode 4308： MAGA Leads The New Media Landscape; Secure The Border, Get Rid Of Cartels, Deport Millions

00:00:00.000 Let's talk. Let's walk through this. A lot of people that aren't familiar with this MAGA media

00:00:07.220 universe might say, oh, you know, conservatives and people who support Donald Trump go to Fox

00:00:13.220 News. Actually, it's much, much bigger than that. Walk us through it. Yeah, I've been struck in the

00:00:20.900 last couple of months, even when I'm talking to CEOs or people in media, how little they understand

00:00:25.860 the depth and breadth of kind of the MAGA media ecosystem. It is big. It is powerful. It is

00:00:32.280 organized. And it operates so much differently than your traditional media ecosystem and that

00:00:37.220 they see this as information warfare. And we might think about it as like one or two names like Don

00:00:42.960 Jr. or Charlie Kirk. But it's a massive, massive ecosystem. You see a lot of it on X. So anyone

00:00:49.500 who goes to X, formerly Twitter, you see a lot of these people. But beneath it is where all the

00:00:55.060 activity is, if you go to YouTube, if you listen to podcasts, if you go to Rumble, if you go to

00:01:01.200 Instagram, if you go on TikTok, if you go to any place where most people in America congregate for

00:01:07.140 their information and news, and I think the two end up blending together, megastars have way more

00:01:13.940 clout, way more authority than most of the household names that your viewers are used to following. And

00:01:20.000 they cut across all of these platforms. So they'll have huge followings for their podcasts.

00:01:24.740 You look at podcasts on any given week, and that's how a lot of people get the best majority

00:01:29.200 of their news. You look at that top 10 ranking, you'd be hard pressed to find one liberal. And

00:01:34.300 you're often going to find five or six people from the mega media infrastructure in there and on that

00:01:41.020 list. And then that content moves to YouTube, moves across TikTok, moves across Instagram, and they have a

00:01:48.480 very shared common worldview. So even if you're thinking about your program today, where you're the

00:01:54.060 interpretation that you guys have talked about of the Zelensky meeting, it's a different universe.

00:01:59.120 If you go into MAGA, they think that they think that Vance was a hero and a tough guy. And they

00:02:04.800 think that Trump was a master of the universe and that Zelensky was disrespectful in both his tone

00:02:10.220 and his wardrobe. And they're all in. And that's kind of the ecosystem that sits and is kind of the

00:02:16.100 surround sound for Trump.

00:02:17.240 Last week, where you actually had this MAGA ecosystem split. You got a lot of people very

00:02:23.240 angry about Andrew Tate, his brother coming back to the United States. You had a lot of people in

00:02:32.400 the MAGA universe very upset about the Epstein files. And there seemed to be a split between these

00:02:38.480 three different groups that you point out. Take us through those three groups.

00:02:42.180 Yeah. I mean, the big one is like the true MAGA meat eaters, like their full MAGA, whether it's 0.72

00:02:48.000 like a Steve Bannon or a Charlie Cook or Charlie Kirk or a Don Jr. Like they are, they are unified on

00:02:55.760 almost all of these topics. There is kind of a middle of MAGA, which is like mostly MAGA folks that

00:03:02.340 you see, like someone like Hugh Hewitt, who used to be pretty conventionally conservative, who now would

00:03:07.540 kind of fall into that category. And then the big one is like MAGA adjacent. And that would be like

00:03:13.900 the Joe Rogans of the world, where they're not inherently political, not always political, but

00:03:19.940 have become very MAGA over the last 18 months. And I think one of the reasons Trump won the election

00:03:26.160 and surprised people was this merger of MAGA media with what I would consider kind of the bro longevity

00:03:32.660 industrial complex that kind of that Rogan universe, or even a Huberman, who's a, who's a pretty famous

00:03:39.140 longevity guy who increasingly is, is you find himself injecting himself into politics on X. And

00:03:46.120 it's the three of those in totality that do have a lot of cloud. And yes, they have edge cases like

00:03:52.200 the Tate brothers coming back to the U S where there's some disagreement, but, but for the most part,

00:03:56.940 they don't allow that much disagreement and they use information. And I think this is the thing that,

00:04:02.580 that Democrats are wrestling with right now. They don't look at it as news. They don't look at it as

00:04:07.120 information. They look at it as information warfare, and they look at it having each other's back and

00:04:12.360 being on each other's shows and going after anybody who's a critic. It's one of the big explanations of

00:04:18.540 why you got Senate confirmation for every single person Trump wanted, because you do not want to be 0.92

00:04:24.540 in the vortex of the mega industrial complex. If you're on the wrong side of it, because they will

00:04:30.300 come after you and their people are listening and watching and reading them.

00:04:34.040 There, there used to be a presence for, uh, liberals. Uh, uh, they, they did fairly well online,

00:04:42.060 but they don't there. There is, as Jim said, you look at the top podcasts, you look at the top,

00:04:48.760 you know, what, what, uh, accounts are getting the most hits. It's usually it's, it's these MAGA

00:04:55.220 accounts. Yeah. I mean, what Jim's describing, you know, in terms of an industry is also in many

00:05:02.200 ways, the media apparatus of a cult and functioning as media that, that broadcast lies convinces people

00:05:08.380 to hate is built on a brainwashing function. So that when the humiliation and the disgrace of

00:05:14.960 Friday, as we were talking about happens, there is ready for them, a bunch of millions of people

00:05:19.480 who will, who will see it in a reality distortion field that has been created. And I think it's

00:05:24.500 incredibly important. You're right. That, that people who are on the pro democracy side in this

00:05:29.200 country, build up a media apparatus that can, the word I've used again and again is, is help people

00:05:36.420 make meaning, right? Meaning doesn't make itself when, when an event like Friday happens, uh, in the

00:05:41.420 Oval Office, the meaning of that is not self-generating. And if you have this giant

00:05:46.840 apparatus that Jim's describing, that is helping people make one meaning of it, a meaning that is

00:05:51.300 favorable to Vladimir Putin, favorable to the Kremlin, and you don't really have, you know,

00:05:55.360 democratic politicians certainly, but also not a, a giant new media apparatus on the pro democracy

00:06:01.360 side that helps people make a different meaning that helps people remind people of what the United

00:06:05.280 States has been, what it has stood up for in Eastern Europe, et cetera. Uh, then you're just

00:06:11.100 ceding the territory. And this is a week. I just don't believe we can see this, this new media territory.

00:06:18.940 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:06:27.300 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a

00:06:34.120 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the

00:06:37.840 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like

00:06:41.420 that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a

00:06:49.660 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

00:06:57.000 country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:07:10.780 It's Monday, 3 March in the year of our Lord, 2025. We're on the eve of tomorrow. President Trump's

00:07:16.840 address to Congress. It's not really technically a state of the union because, you know, when you have

00:07:22.640 the, uh, your initial inauguration, since it's only a couple of weeks after they don't consider

00:07:26.900 a state of the union, but an initial address to Congress, but it'll be the same trappings

00:07:31.540 as a state of the union. Very important. President Trump, uh, thrown down today that he's going to,

00:07:35.660 um, uh, put people on blast. Uh, and it goes back to right there. You saw Jim Vanderhay

00:07:41.100 of Axios, the co-founder of Axios. And one thing about Vanderhay

00:07:44.980 for our audience to understand, he and Mike Allen were the two guys, I think it was the Washington

00:07:52.680 Post that pitched the idea of a, of a politics only section for the post. And it was rejected,

00:07:58.820 my understanding, by post management and the owners back in, um, you know, 20 years ago,

00:08:05.220 I think the all Britain family, uh, stepped in that went to them. And that was the formation of

00:08:10.700 Politico. Those two guys founded Politico, which really changed political reporting in our nation's

00:08:17.600 capital and throughout the country, something just focused on politics, intense focus on politics.

00:08:23.300 Then, uh, they, they cashed out. Ultimately, Politico was sold for a couple of billion dollars.

00:08:28.940 I think it was over a billion dollars to a German, uh, publisher. It's now controlled by the Germans 0.94

00:08:34.120 or owned by the Germans. They would say they give free editorial control, but obviously that's not true.

00:08:39.740 And, uh, Jim and Mike, who are two of the smartest guys when it comes to media and particularly new

00:08:47.080 media, then went and founded Axios and Axios is the conventional wisdom. It is the, it's the,

00:08:54.020 and their whole thing is about brevity. They want all the information to get to,

00:08:58.720 and they want to get to you quickly. So if you go to Axios and Axios is free, I recommend everybody

00:09:03.320 out there, uh, put the Axios on your, um, on your list of things to read every day because it gives

00:09:10.200 you the conventional wisdom of the imperial capital about what's, what's going on. They have done a

00:09:17.240 huge report, uh, but they have not released it just to their corporate clients. I think it is on

00:09:22.980 mega media. And you saw right there, Jim Vanderhay on, um, on morning Joe and Jim Vanderhay,

00:09:30.000 very, very different than Anon, you know, and I, Oh, it's a cult. This is all propaganda. It's made

00:09:36.300 to, you know, for foreign people. Remember all this podcast, all the streaming, real America's

00:09:41.400 voice, the war room, uh, the Jack, Jack, Charlie Kirk, none of this was done with corporate money.

00:09:48.680 It was all done kind of bootstrap. And because the content was so compelling and people, and people

00:09:56.160 had different takes on how they did it from Bongino to, you know, to,

00:10:00.000 to Charlie Kirk, uh, to Jack Posovic. Uh, now we've got Eric Bolling. You have so many

00:10:05.240 names out there and different, different takes on things that, um, you know, Pete and Ted Cruz

00:10:11.020 has got a great podcast. You, you've got a, uh, with, uh, with a brother, Ben, uh, Ben Ferguson.

00:10:16.940 Um, this was all done because people are thirsting for this information. They're thirsting. And it

00:10:23.240 is information warfare. There's no doubt about that narrative setting. This is how, this is how

00:10:27.640 the corporatists, the, the rulers of this country, the Lords of easy money on wall street. Uh, this

00:10:35.240 is how they've controlled this nation by giving you a very one-sided view of the world. The most

00:10:40.760 important thing was said today on morning, Joe and with Vander Hay is that they actually

00:10:45.500 described, and he talked about talking to corporate CEOs of which they, you know, Vander Hay and

00:10:50.600 Allen cater to is that don't think that Fox news drives the agenda here. Don't think Fox news drives,

00:10:57.680 uh, what's really important. Fox news is kind of, uh, is kind of old school in that way. It's very

00:11:03.060 passive that this new, uh, what these new developments are is really information. It is

00:11:09.480 information warfare. We freely admit that, but the information we put up because we do look at both

00:11:16.160 sides, right? Of an issue. We'd go, I shouldn't say both sides. We look at every side of an issue

00:11:20.740 to get to the truth and look at our track record over the last couple of years. And let's take

00:11:26.120 specifically, let's take the thing, uh, the question to two questions of the day or three

00:11:31.300 questions of the day, uh, Ukraine, 100% right from the very beginning, 1000% right from the very

00:11:37.860 beginning and millions of lives would have been, uh, been saved in the destruction of a nation

00:11:42.640 of a country like, uh, Ukraine, uh, would have been avoided, uh, on the border. Todd Benson is

00:11:49.440 going to come on here. He's got an amazing report at CIS this morning. Todd will be with us, uh, in a

00:11:54.300 couple of, a couple of segments from now. And Todd is saying, Hey, the border essentially has been,

00:11:58.660 has been the, the, the crisis has been shut down in under 40 days. It didn't take the big

00:12:04.060 legislature. Oh, you have this legislation, the Senate bill, the Senate bill is going to do it. No,

00:12:08.180 we told you that was a lie at the time. It was a lie. Biden and these people say, Oh no,

00:12:12.920 it's nothing you can do about it. It's deep causes. You have to get to, you have to get

00:12:16.200 to core causes, right? Uh, no, you don't, don't have to do that at all. It's basically been secured

00:12:22.580 and that does not include even Pete Hexeth calling up a striker, uh, the striker vehicles and another

00:12:30.140 3000 combat troops and support troops to the border. Now over 12,000, as we've told you and teach

00:12:37.100 you up, that is going to be for a kinetic part of the takedown of the cartels. The third is about

00:12:43.860 the financial crisis in this country. Remember the three things we're talking about is what we've

00:12:48.160 talked about, about stopping the kinetic part of the third world war, the ceiling, the border and

00:12:53.120 the mass deportations in the middle of the existential threat is the financial situation. And on cue

00:12:59.960 on the Hill newspaper today, what Johnson's saying now completely reverses what he said

00:13:07.520 on Caitlin Collins the other day. And we told you this was going to happen. He's saying, well,

00:13:11.980 you know, the doge cuts, I got to have a clean CR. It's going to be like a line long. We'll get to

00:13:17.200 the doge cuts. We'll actually do those in the appropriations process. That'll be in June and

00:13:23.220 July for next year. So we will match our track record against all the collective of the mainstream

00:13:33.460 media, the corporate media or the progressive media. Let's add it up. This doesn't even include

00:13:39.460 on the steel on Trump coming back on, on, on the, uh, on the impeachments on, um, the pandemic.

00:13:46.700 It's not to tout our record. It's just to show that America's new day is built upon information.

00:13:55.640 This is the way they've controlled you. And it's your agency, your human agency, not this show,

00:14:01.720 your agency to take actionable information and to apply it to your personal life, to your financial

00:14:10.080 life, to your family life, to your community. And ultimately in the great awakening and getting

00:14:16.340 red pilled people who for their entire lives are not engaged in politics are now engaged in

00:14:22.780 politics and a force to be reckoned with. The reason Jim Vanderhay did that for corporate America

00:14:29.540 is they're nervous. They're scared. As I told you at CPAC, they don't understand you, uh, and they can't

00:14:37.300 destroy what they don't understand. And that's this frantic, frantic movement. It is a great compliment

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00:16:38.560 It is happening before our eyes, the criminalization of the White House. I think, you know, so much has

00:16:47.380 happened since January 20th, but I think that Friday meeting hit people who watched it in a way

00:16:53.560 that very few things have because it felt like the kind of, it felt like to me the kind of end of the

00:17:00.480 free world as a concept and a construct that the United States is involved with. Right. Isn't it

00:17:05.760 interesting how that, when you looked at what happened in London the next day, suddenly it

00:17:13.420 looked like, you know, Ronald Reagan saying America was a city shining brightly on the hill for all the

00:17:17.640 world to see, talking about pushing back against Russian aggression, Russian expansion. Suddenly it

00:17:25.120 looked like that center had been ceded to Tim Downing Street. And centering him. Yeah.

00:17:31.780 Keir Starmer got to have his love actually moment. He had his love. Hugh Graham finally develops a

00:17:38.160 little backbone. You saw King Charles III actually not shocked that Zelensky dressed a good bit like

00:17:45.300 Winston Churchill in World War II at times. Oh, wow. It's an incredible, incredible moment. I think

00:17:51.680 David's piece is so beautiful and haunting. And this moment, it feels like the end of something and the

00:17:59.400 beginning of something else, the end of a moment where you could talk about the American. 0.65

00:18:03.880 It is, it is, this, this is the nonsense. This is why the, um, the ecosystem of the podcasts of the

00:18:12.060 right, of the right, um, in the MAGA movement of President Trump are so powerful. That's so weak.

00:18:16.500 That's just all nonsense and crap. They take no responsibility. I want to make sure we focus on 1.00

00:18:23.000 where we are. There are a million dead or wounded Ukrainians. The Ukrainian parents of young men,

00:18:31.600 18 to 26 years old, I guess young men and women, because they drafted women too, have really stood

00:18:38.320 that stand, stood up and said, no more. You're not taking our kids and throwing them into the

00:18:44.300 charnel house for this corrupt oligarchy. Zelensky's, I think it's 16%. The reason they won't have

00:18:49.600 elections. There's 800,000. And this is Ian Bremmer who, so there's not President Trump.

00:18:56.820 Ian Bremmer tells me 800,000 dead or wounded Russian troops. And Ian is a guy that very much

00:19:02.320 focuses on the math. So 800,000, it's almost 2 million. And please remember, because they do

00:19:09.400 not teach World War II correctly. From the invasion of Poland, 1939, which I don't think is actually

00:19:16.860 really the start of the war, but it's the historical, what people think is the start

00:19:20.920 of the war. So in September of 1939, the German invasion of Poland till June of 1941, the German

00:19:31.860 invasion of Russia, the Wehrmacht's invasion of Russia, of which the bloodlands was down at

00:19:40.240 a place called Ukraine. In that two-year period with the Polish invasion, then the invasion of

00:19:49.360 France by the German army, sweeping through Europe, Europe collapsed, the blitz over London, everything 0.69

00:19:55.380 that happened in North Africa with the French and the French fleet. You add all that up, it's nothing

00:20:01.820 compared. It's nothing compared to what has happened in Ukraine. Ukraine is the beginning 1.00

00:20:09.480 part of, we're in the kinetic part of the Third World War and the Eurasian landmass. You add

00:20:14.240 the Muslim Brotherhood's attack, sneak attack on Israel on October 7th. We are. And we have 1.00

00:20:25.120 preached that gospel from day one and saying, hey, this has to stop or it will metastasize

00:20:30.580 because wars, whether it's the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War II, or anywhere

00:20:37.060 you see, they tend towards annihilation. Why? They become almost vendettas. President Trump

00:20:45.740 has seen that from the beginning. None of this would have happened if they hadn't stolen the

00:20:48.800 election, if the apparatus, the deep state, had not stolen the election from President Trump

00:20:54.320 in 2020. They want the forever wars. Yep. They want the forever wars. And that's why President

00:21:03.300 Trump is trying to stop it. And you saw, and here's why, and I told you on Friday when it

00:21:10.300 happened, Zelensky going to the Hay Adams Hotel, and they accused that now of just being Democrats.

00:21:16.640 There were Republicans there too. That whole click in the Senate, the pro-war click, completely

00:21:24.460 owned by the arms industry. Zelensky thought he had the cards. This is why the phrase that

00:21:34.260 Trump continues to use, you don't have any cards. You don't have any cards. You have no

00:21:40.660 leverage. You're just a punk. We cannot and must not re-engage with them and the Europeans. 1.00

00:21:49.640 Storming these guys yesterday, it's all smack talk. It has no meaning. The people in Europe

00:21:54.640 are never going to back this up. They're going to turf all these guys out, as they've already

00:21:59.440 turfed out a couple of the governments. Italy, France, Spain, Germany, England. They're all

00:22:09.520 on the verge of a sovereign debt crisis. Their economies are sputtering. They're not even

00:22:16.580 really first world industrial powers anymore. Germany's de-industrialized. Their economy has

00:22:22.580 shrunk by 5%. These countries are virtually in economic distress. The only reason they had

00:22:31.620 the free health care, the pension when you're in your 50s, the six weeks vacation, full paid

00:22:39.400 vacation over the summer is because of you. You underwrite their defense. Call their bluff.

00:22:48.800 If they thought Russia was such a thing, they would pay two or three or four. Trump says 5%.

00:22:54.680 They don't. They won't pay 2%. They want you to underwrite it. We're out. We're not going

00:22:59.200 to do it. We'll be an ally, but we're not going to be, we're not going to treat you like

00:23:03.680 a vassal state and like a protectorate. Not going to do it anymore. All of NATO ex the United

00:23:09.360 Kingdom cannot put up two combat divisions. It's a joke. I told you from the beginning what

00:23:16.760 they were going to do and what Zelensky was going to do. He needs a security guarantee. He needs

00:23:20.300 your sons and daughters. They need your sons and daughters as hostages in Ukraine and unlimited 0.99

00:23:26.720 amount of money. Hell, we spent $350 billion. What do we got? And who spent that? The only

00:23:33.400 thing that came out of this was that Mitch McConnell was thrown out of being leader because he broke

00:23:37.680 his pick on what topic? Ukraine. And this gets back to the first segment. It's just on the

00:23:44.300 confirmation hearings. It's taking down the leadership of the RNC. It's removing McCarthy as

00:23:48.500 Speaker. It's removing McConnell as leader. That was you. That was you. That was you.

00:23:57.100 Your power is unlimited once you understand you actually have power. It's unlimited. And

00:24:04.020 that's what they're freaking out. And the smart guys like Mike Allen, Jim Vanderhaef kind of

00:24:07.480 looked at me and said, Hey, I think I see where the source, it's Trump and it's coming through.

00:24:11.440 It's manifesting itself through these podcasts and these shows and networks like Real America's

00:24:16.600 Voice. You have to remember what they talk about. We're banned everywhere. This show is consistently

00:24:21.460 one of the top podcasts, but we're also, it's a podcast, but that's secondary. We broadcast

00:24:26.260 live four hours a day, live four hours a day on Real America's Voice and the streaming services

00:24:32.040 and other streaming services they put us up on. And we're banned everywhere.

00:24:36.880 On, on, on, on, on Twitter, on Facebook, on YouTube, on Spotify. And I've never gone back

00:24:48.000 and said, Oh, put his back on. No, since Trump won. I don't know. I did the, I detest these

00:24:51.980 people because they think they have the control. Plus you're making a money. Screw them.

00:24:56.340 The border. They were, they lied to them. Think about on Ukraine. They lied and they lied and they 0.98

00:25:11.140 lied. And here's their arrogance. The blood's on their hands, the suffering that they caused the 0.61

00:25:16.420 destruction of Ukraine that we said time and time again was going to happen assures the turning of 0.99

00:25:22.180 the earth. They sit there in their arrogance and they talk big talk for what more destruction.

00:25:29.720 It's not going to change where the British going to put 30,000 troops. They can't afford. They'll

00:25:33.260 never put them. And if they put them, it's not going to change a thing. The thing for president

00:25:39.400 Trump, this is why the minerals deal, I kept saying the minerals deal. First of all, I hated,

00:25:42.920 hate the deal. Hate it, hate everything about it. What I hate most is say, no offense.

00:25:48.080 When I look at it and president Trump is trying to be in a peacemaker. That's why he was trying to do

00:25:54.900 the deal. He's trying to be a peacemaker. He understands that his hardest core supporters

00:26:01.580 hate this, but that's what a leader does. We will acquiesce to president Trump because he's trying to,

00:26:10.500 he's trying to collect a lot of things and get down the piece, the path to peace. But I have said

00:26:17.700 to navigate it, forget them. That's a sideshow. That is a sideshow. That is a sideshow. What do you

00:26:24.020 mean? See, that's a sideshow. The thing that matters is the rapprochement with the Russians,

00:26:30.060 with the Russian people, as awful as the KGB is. And people say, well, how can you,

00:26:38.000 yo, in World War II, we would not have won if we didn't partner with some of the worst people on earth.

00:26:46.120 That was the Bolsheviks, the small group that controlled the Russian people. And guess what? 0.88

00:26:50.760 Since 65 million of them to their deaths, after they had starved 5 million people in Ukraine, 0.99

00:26:58.400 as evil and horrible as Hitler was, Joseph Stalin, the Bolsheviks were pretty damn close. 0.91

00:27:07.400 And yes, we pardoned them. Remember when they tried to, FDR tried to sell it at Uncle Joe,

00:27:13.740 like he's some nice guy, murderous psychopath. We pardoned with him. And in partnering with him,

00:27:21.580 and in partnering with Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong in China, we saved millions of American lives.

00:27:29.580 It is quite uncertain whether World War II had ever been brought to a close, unless we did that.

00:27:36.000 It is uncertain whether America would have taken those types of casualties. Just is. The British, 0.93

00:27:41.100 this is why D-Day was so late. The British were so, so, so, because of the destruction of World War I.

00:27:47.840 We're so hesitant to go back. That's why it was delayed year after year after year.

00:27:53.480 You must understand how we got here. And the lies of these people, and their arrogance,

00:28:02.240 and they're just flat out evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. So it's either us or them. There's no 0.94

00:28:11.540 compromise here. I've told you before, you cannot compromise with these people. There's nothing to

00:28:16.380 compromise about. We are right, and on the side of the angels, and they are wrong, and on the side

00:28:25.140 of the demons. Back in a moment.

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00:29:43.720 you're prepared. The crisis is here. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:29:56.180 One thing, I got Ben's been on. Ben's has got a bolt, so I want to get him on first. I'll come back to

00:30:00.000 some of the media stuff later. But remember, this is about controlled opposition. Fox didn't do this.

00:30:05.540 Fox did not reverse this. Why? They're controlled opposition. The Murdochs are neoliberal neocons.

00:30:10.820 They're part of the problem. Fox is just to soothe you and make you feel like you're winning. When

00:30:18.680 you're not winning all, you're actually losing. You're actually losing.

00:30:25.960 The other is about connecting. Trump connects like no one else, has a visceral connection

00:30:30.400 audience. That, in a much smaller account for a different, is Vanderhae is like that all shucks.

00:30:35.560 When Vanderhae talks like that all shucks, kind of Wisconsin nice, there's a brain going there

00:30:43.000 a mile a minute, but he can connect. I've seen it. Whereas Joe Scarborough trying to do the same

00:30:49.480 thing. Oh, I'm a preacher, all this. I was a Republican. That's controlled. He's controlled

00:30:54.400 opposition. He's the manifestation of the Republican Party and what they were. Not what they are today,

00:31:01.640 what they were. And that's why we lost. The country did not get in shape just because of a bunch of

00:31:06.200 progressive Democrats and horrible billionaires and people in the deep state. They also had the

00:31:12.700 willing, they had the help and the assistance of the controlled opposition that just gave a wink

00:31:18.320 and threw out some stuff in the foreground so that you could play shiny toys. We don't do shiny toys

00:31:25.120 here. So today it's, it's the connect, it's the third world war, President Trump trying to stop it

00:31:31.060 and do a strategic realignment that sets the direction of the 21st century and leads to the

00:31:37.340 ultimate breaking of the Chinese Communist Party. And their sidekicks, the mullahs in Persia. 0.95

00:31:45.120 And I'm now more convinced than ever, we got to keep, we got to start calling it Persia.

00:31:50.040 The Iran thing is a total misdirection play. You must call it Persia, the ancient enemy of the West. 1.00

00:31:57.160 The ancient enemy of the West. Todd Benzman, you had a called shot and I cannot give you enough

00:32:05.260 accolades. And the reason is you did the hard work of going like with Benzman and Michael Yan and

00:32:11.940 Oscar Blue Ramirez and others to do all that dangerous work from the Darien Gap all the way 0.92

00:32:17.480 through southern Mexico, central Mexico, northern Mexico. For years, you wrote the book that changed

00:32:24.180 the direction of this about the lies of the Biden administration. But you called it and you said,

00:32:28.940 hey, this could all be taken, this could all be done in a month. And maybe it took up, maybe it took a week

00:32:35.200 longer than a month, but you nailed it. So tell me about, you got a major report out today from CIS.

00:32:41.420 Tell us about this report. I want everybody to read it. And more important, I want everyone to share it.

00:32:45.540 What do you got, sir? Well, I'm declaring it officially that the mass migration event 0.93

00:32:53.160 of 2021 to 2025 is over. Mike Banks, the Border Patrol chief, the new one, just put out the number

00:33:04.080 for February, 8,326 apprehensions for the month of February. It's not officially released yet,

00:33:12.600 but he tweeted it out as the lowest number in U.S. recorded history. And you should know by,

00:33:20.540 for contrast, that February of 2021 was the, one of the biggest numbers in U.S. history. March was

00:33:28.220 actually the biggest number in U.S. history. And then we went on for three years of breaking all

00:33:33.220 those records nonstop. So the, the border. But hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Stop,

00:33:40.380 stop, stop, stop, stop. 8,000 for February. When you say that highest month, what's the number? Give

00:33:46.140 me the number. Compare it. I want to say that in, well, the highest month that we ever had was December

00:33:53.460 of 2023. And if you count the parolees that were, that they were flying in and bringing in over the

00:34:01.620 border, in addition to the illegal crossings, it was pushing close to 400,000 in a month, 400,000.

00:34:10.940 Okay. Hold it. Stop. Stop. 400,000 versus 8,000. 400,000 versus 8,000. That's the invasion.

00:34:21.560 Now, Todd, how was that invasion? We were told the Senate and they hit Trump on this show. We fought

00:34:27.920 that fricking Senate bill every day because there's nothing but an amnesty bill, but in your face,

00:34:32.580 the media and Fox news and MSNBC and all of them, this was the thing was going to shut down. And by

00:34:38.800 Trump opposing it and war room opposing it and getting people up on the ramparts and opposing 0.99

00:34:43.660 and daring those senators to vote for it and even backing Lanford, that gutless coward off. 0.99

00:34:48.480 And by the way, people in Oklahoma should be ashamed that that gutless coward represents you. 1.00

00:34:55.540 It was all a lie. And all the original deep causes, you know, Kamala Harris, right? Original cause, 0.98

00:35:01.320 all a lie. Everything you were told was a bald-faced lie. What did it take, Todd, to get it down to

00:35:07.540 8,000 a month from 400,000 a month, sir? Right. I mean, Senate bill, Senate bill,

00:35:13.340 Senate bill, root causes, root causes, root causes. I never want to hear it again. Nobody

00:35:18.920 can intellectually can ever claim that any of those things, comprehensive immigration reform,

00:35:25.220 broken border, all of that completely laid waste to, is in the dung heap of intellectual

00:35:33.580 immigration studies and theory. All that it ever took, all that we knew that it would ever take

00:35:40.320 is detention, expulsion, and deportation in a consistent, you know, in a consistent even-handed

00:35:50.900 way all along the border in accordance with the law. The law requires those things. That's it.

00:35:58.960 That's all that it took. Why? Because no immigrant that I've ever met or aspiring illegal alien that 0.99

00:36:07.560 I've ever met, and I've met thousands and interviewed them, is going to lay $10,000 in smuggling fees

00:36:15.540 on the green felt gambling table if they know they're going to not get in and that they're not going to

00:36:22.120 stay in. They're staying home. Nobody's dropping that kind of cash if they're not going to get in.

00:36:27.600 It's just that simple. It's always been that simple.

00:36:32.920 Now, I want to make sure, because you say it's the end of the crisis, that's the initial crisis

00:36:37.000 of the invasion part. We still have to permanently secure the border, permanently, right? So we don't

00:36:43.000 need combat troops down there all the time. Then we have phase next, which is the destruction of the

00:36:49.320 cartels and then the mass deportation of 10 million people, correct? So let's go back to phase one.

00:36:55.780 What is your advice to the president? It's like in Normandy. If they stopped us on the beach,

00:37:04.400 you've stopped them coming across the beach and getting a beachhead. What do you do now to

00:37:08.600 permanently seal it and make sure that this can never happen again?

00:37:13.920 Well, first of all, I want to put to bed this idea that's floating around in the Washington Post and

00:37:19.060 the New York Times that, wow, look, nobody's coming across. Why is Trump doing putting military down

00:37:24.620 there? Why is Trump wanting to build the wall when nobody's coming? The administration has to,

00:37:33.020 I think, as you said, full gas, no break. You cannot relent on any of the things, even for a minute,

00:37:41.520 that he put in place down there on the border, or it will reverse. You got to keep the chemo

00:37:47.980 flowing. You got to keep the radiation on or the cancer's coming back. So I just want to get that out

00:37:53.540 of the way. But number two is we have a massive cleanup mess in the interior. They've got to,

00:38:01.060 the next step is the mass deportation program. We need the $175 billion to fund it. The Biden

00:38:10.760 administration very systematically dismantled the deportation detention machine. It's in parts all

00:38:19.140 over the place. They closed detention facilities and shut down funding for bed space and canceled the

00:38:26.040 private detention center contracts. So they have to rebuild in order to, and also expand beyond

00:38:37.180 criminal aliens. Unfortunately, they're going to have to take heat. I think they're prepared to

00:38:42.780 take heat by expanding that to millions of people that just waltzed in here and they're out there

00:38:49.680 living and walking around. They didn't do anything criminal, but they're here illegally. They're 0.99

00:38:55.460 eventually going to have to start pulling them, uprooting them and deporting them. The system,

00:39:02.220 that system is already in play. They are rebuilding that. It's not going to take all that long. They

00:39:08.520 just need money and a little bit of time. Just chill. It's going to happen. And thirdly, you know,

00:39:15.420 Trump talks about fentanyl and the cartels. That is also shaping up to be a, we're early, just we're early

00:39:25.180 on that, but it's shaping up. We stopped drug trafficking and fentanyl coming in over the

00:39:31.840 border. Trump has vowed to eliminate, totally eliminate the cartels. We'll, I don't know if

00:39:37.720 he's going to be able to do that, but if he can shut down a lot of the fentanyl and reduce the

00:39:43.820 overdose deaths over the next two, three years, that will be a huge win for the country. Nobody wants to

00:39:50.920 see that. And everybody wants to see those cartels.

00:39:55.780 Yeah. Hang on. He intends, they're putting the strikers to tell me, Pete Hexeth has got 12,000

00:40:03.460 combat troops in our logistics, logistics to back combat down on the Southern border. And we already

00:40:09.880 know we've kind of shut that down. And part of it's because that, but they're there for a different

00:40:14.760 reason. You got the, you got the CIA assets, you've got the, you've got the targeting going around.

00:40:20.260 Should, is your recommendation, Todd Benzman, that the cartel leaders should go read about how

00:40:25.560 Trump took down ISIS in, uh, in about five months in 2017 to their total physical destruction? Uh, and

00:40:34.360 maybe they should, uh, savvy up and surrender, sir. Yeah, they're not surrendering. They're going to

00:40:40.820 fight, uh, just expect, expect warfare. If they, uh, I mean, it's already happening. It's already

00:40:47.800 starting to ramp up down there. Uh, but the point of having military on this side may not be to, uh,

00:40:56.580 catch illegal immigrants or even drug traffickers. It may very well be to prevent, to present a credible 0.89

00:41:03.300 retaliatory threat against the cartels when, or if they decide to, uh, cross our border and do things

00:41:12.100 to our people. You've got, uh, you know, mobile, uh, light infantry, uh, you know, the 10th mountain

00:41:19.060 divisions are 500 of them are already in Fort Huachuca. They can't just be there to do illegal

00:41:25.540 immigration interdiction. I'm sorry. They got these gigantic strikers that they're moving in. They've got 1.00

00:41:31.460 Marines. They've got, I mean, they are fully equipped and hopefully they don't have to use

00:41:37.140 them, but the cartels need to understand going forward. What do you mean? What do you mean?

00:41:42.480 Hopefully, what do you mean? What do you mean? Hopefully you can take a, but I do agree with

00:41:46.800 your theory. We got, hang on. We got to do the economic part. We got to shut down the bankers,

00:41:50.680 which you call the company. I a hundred percent agree, but these bad hombres only at the end of the

00:41:56.380 they understand where, look, they got heads rolling around the streets outside of, in Tijuana,

00:42:00.440 Oscar blue Ramirez said, they're trying to intimidate the people in, in, in, in Mexico.

00:42:05.660 This is a little bit like the mag seven, the magnificent seven. Eventually you've got to go

00:42:10.760 in the wild bunch. Eventually you're going to have to go down there and you're going to have to kill 0.99

00:42:14.800 some bad hombres, sir. You agree? Yeah. Well, something's up. Uh, you know, you have the, 1.00

00:42:21.400 the, uh, you know, the president saying, and also Tom Homan and others in the administration saying

00:42:28.380 things like our policy toward the cartels is total elimination. What that means. Uh, I don't

00:42:35.800 exactly know yet. I don't think any of us do, but maybe initially, I know, hold it. I know,

00:42:41.960 I know total, when Trump says total elimination, ask ISIS, ask ISIS in, in, in the, ask the ISIS

00:42:50.740 caliphate what total elimination means. It means total elimination and dead bad guys and destroyed

00:42:58.100 infrastructure, like total elimination, take him, take him at his word. Am I going to lose you? Can I

00:43:03.520 hold you through another segment? You got to bounce. Tell me. Um, yeah, I can, I can, I can go for

00:43:10.140 another five or 10. Okay. That's it. That's okay. Fine. I'm going to go to commercial break.

00:43:15.440 Hang on. It's too good. Benjamin, when he says total elimination, Trump means total elimination.

00:43:22.860 You're right. They've got light infantry in the strikers. They got 12,000 combat troops or combat

00:43:28.700 logistics troops on the Southern border. And they're not there to stop 8,000 people coming across in a

00:43:34.240 month. That's a done deal. Short break back in the war in a moment. 0.66

00:43:40.140 We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the CCP.

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00:45:26.980 Okay, here's what we're going to do is Todd's going to rejoin us. He had to bounce because I got to spend

00:45:36.480 more time. Todd's going to rejoin us and we're going to go through a lot of this, I think, at 6 o'clock

00:45:40.620 tonight because it's too important. I want to make sure, Grace, make sure everybody, and this is why we put

00:45:46.360 in a daily command brief. We got all the online. Download the podcast. We need your reviews in the podcast.

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00:45:58.620 Even if you watch live, just to give us a review. We're going to get the CIS report out.

00:46:03.580 But here's three parts. What Todd Benzman is saying is within 40 days, President Trump has

00:46:11.860 effectively sealed the border. Now, it's not going to stay so you need to, you know, you need

00:46:18.100 constant vigilance. You need to build the wall. We need all that. The New York Times, of course,

00:46:23.080 the Washington Post saying, well, it's all done now. Everybody can come home. No, that's because

00:46:26.680 we've four deployed people. Now, it's, you know, the DPS in Texas. All of a sudden, Abbott's got

00:46:32.680 religion. All these guys have religion, old-time religion because of President Trump. But it

00:46:37.860 showed the lie of, oh, you need this big bill. The big bill Lankford had, and this is why Lankford

00:46:44.320 should be ashamed of himself and, quite frankly, to me, is a disgrace because he was the wolf

00:46:51.280 they put the sheep's clothing on. That whole Senate bill was a lie. It's nothing but amnesty. 0.78

00:46:55.200 And President Trump told you exactly how, and he did it. Now, that has to be primally

00:47:01.040 put in, but it goes from 400,000 in the worst month back in December of 23, which wasn't

00:47:07.020 that long ago, folks, what, 13 months ago? 400,000 in a month down to 8,000. The two

00:47:14.440 hardest parts, though, are to come, the destruction of the cartels. And when President Trump says

00:47:18.680 total annihilation, total destruction, the cartel leaders should check with how that worked

00:47:24.340 out for the ISIS caliphate, which, remember, we were told by Obama, these guys are going

00:47:28.520 to take a generation, didn't take a generation, took President Trump directing Mattis, I think,

00:47:33.420 to under six months to leave a smoking pile of embers.

00:47:41.800 Then the mass deportations. And I will tell you, folks, people getting wobbly on that. This

00:47:47.340 is just not insane asylums. It's just not the criminals. It's just not. It's 10 million have

00:47:51.900 got to go. Hispanic families and African-American men and women are not going to get salaries 1.00

00:47:59.500 in the lower skilled areas and not going to be able to get into jobs and get them higher

00:48:06.420 skills and higher pay while you have this massive contingent here of illegal aliens that were 0.99

00:48:12.140 brought in under Biden to compete with them.

00:48:15.040 So, so much is happening geopolitically. This another week where decades happen. Told you

00:48:23.420 last week was going to be one, and it was. Now we're getting close to, of course, everybody,

00:48:29.400 the Hill newspaper and Punchbowl, Jake Sherman, everybody, the lead story. What's the lead

00:48:33.640 story? Oh, government shutdown coming.

00:48:37.080 And Mike Johnson doesn't know which way he's going, telling Caitlin Collins, yeah, we're going

00:48:40.660 to have anomalies. We're going to get to all the doge thing. Now he's saying, no, no, no,

00:48:43.560 no. I just need a one line, you know, to a, a, a, a CR that's going to go for a full year

00:48:49.620 and we'll get to doge in summer. Uh, we'll put in the appropriate surprise of the 26. No,

00:48:54.440 dude, that dog is not, that dog is not going to hunt, does not hunt. It's redonkulous.

00:49:02.140 You expect us to pay for all the waste for our abuse. And also Elon, we got to see some numbers

00:49:07.940 because they put out, and I'm not saying it's because of our constant harping, far be it

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00:49:19.520 They've just put out, they're going to have DOD, a preliminary, I think, DOD report tomorrow.

00:49:24.740 So we'll get to it, but it's put up or shut up time. We understand all your work's not done,

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00:49:33.200 it. It can't be funded. So Mike Johnson, those guys got to realize.

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Bannon's War Room - March 03, 2025

Episode 4308： MAGA Leads The New Media Landscape; Secure The Border, Get Rid Of Cartels, Deport Millions

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