Bannon's War Room - Episode 4321： Leaning Towards The Kinetic Part Of A 3rd World War

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:09.640 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.220 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:20.400 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:23.740 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:31.580 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:38.680 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.120 it's friday 7 march in the year of our lord 2025 thank you for uh being here for the second hour

00:00:56.260 of the morning show uh history being made once again president trump is going to open up to a

00:01:01.280 press avail momentarily our own brian glenn uh is uh with the camera crew and they're going to be in

00:01:08.040 the uh they're going to be i think it's going to take place in the oval we don't know the topics yet

00:01:12.200 but i i believe that it's clearly mentioning something that's going on um all the reporting

00:01:17.460 is coming out with doge and elon musk i'm sure they'll address that also i'm sure the president

00:01:22.620 is going to talk about the cr we just had chip roy from the white house so they had a morning meeting

00:01:27.140 i'm sure he's going to talk about that uh and what he's looking for so we'll check that box

00:01:32.320 also i believe he's going to say something about 9 000 uh auto jobs created already on his watch i think

00:01:39.140 surely they're going to mention that and then i think i'd be very surprised he didn't mention

00:01:44.020 this truth socially just put up about uh russia's uh kinetic activity overnight in in ukraine look

00:01:51.520 president trump as i tell you one of his best sayings when you're around him is no games and

00:01:56.500 particularly here this i think it falls into the zelinski last week no games a week ago and also

00:02:02.560 with the russians they're trying to work as i've told you a rapprochement

00:02:06.680 but the russians are are quite tough uh and last night i think you saw a pounding that president

00:02:14.460 trump and his true social just not prepared to tolerate he's given the uh muslim brotherhood 1.00

00:02:19.400 franchisee in gaza he's put him on the clock and said yo you don't have all the houses dead or alive

00:02:27.300 turned over so we can count them up uh all hell's going to break loose and they have a new idf chief

00:02:33.300 of staff a pretty tough hombre that said uh his first address to the country of israel says 2025

00:02:40.780 is going to be the year of war so get ready uh the world's on the brink we're already deep into the

00:02:47.640 kinetic part of the third world war all these people said well you know we're trying to avoid

00:02:51.940 the third you ain't trying to avoid the third world war from 1939 the invasion of poland

00:02:56.280 to june of 1941 the invasion of veramach and the invasion of russia uh operation barbarossa if you

00:03:05.280 take those couple of years uh there is i think i don't know 10 times the killings taking place in

00:03:11.440 ukraine and in israel that took place poland the fall of france the blitz over the battle of britain

00:03:18.720 the blitz over london uh you know i'll throw in some raids in uh in um in france take north africa

00:03:25.420 you roll it all up it pales in comparison to the casualties you have and quite frankly the destruction

00:03:30.800 parts of ukraine look like dresden in 1945 you're you're in a kinetic war right now that's every bit

00:03:36.940 as dangerous and every bit as brutal if not more brutal than the opening phase of um of world war ii

00:03:43.600 john lechner it says providential that we had john uh scheduled i had a chance to read this book in

00:03:49.780 galleys and give it to people that kind of work this uh that this is their line of country and

00:03:56.040 everybody was kind of blown away by the book it's called death is our business is about the kind of

00:04:00.460 mercenary the new russian way of war so john walk us through first off your experience in doing this

00:04:06.820 you've kind of dedicated your life you're a guy that i don't know gets an adrenaline rush of being

00:04:11.740 some pretty bad neighborhoods uh so walk us through kind of your background what led you to this

00:04:16.520 topic before we get into the meat and substance i want to put out your curriculum vita on this sir

00:04:20.820 oh thank you and thank you for having me on the show you know i think it came off in the book that

00:04:27.340 well i mean kind of like you i had a career uh for a little while in investment banking uh but my

00:04:33.440 my true passion was always for uh languages and linguistics and traveling the world um i had spent

00:04:41.060 some time uh living in russia i spoke russian still speak russian fluently and i've been spending a lot

00:04:47.640 of time traveling in africa and when i decided i wanted to become a writer uh it was right around

00:04:53.820 the time that uh this wagner group well kind of what was still very kind of a mysterious band of

00:04:59.940 russian mercenaries was touching down in the central african republic and this was in uh 2018

00:05:07.060 and so in 2019 i decided i have to go there for myself and and see what's happening and you know

00:05:15.360 i i touched down and i started making contacts and started traveling around the country and

00:05:20.500 you know relatively soon i i knew that you know there was a book to be written about it and

00:05:26.060 and so i followed uh wagner group from uh from ukraine to to syria central african republic was in mali

00:05:35.640 libya you know really wherever wherever they were getting interviews with them and uh with with all

00:05:42.600 the different armed groups and uh and in armies that are fighting against them too

00:05:47.060 what is it the volume let's go back that did these things kind of appear because when the

00:05:56.520 soviet union collapsed that you had this massive red army and the whole nation had kind of been on war 0.80

00:06:02.200 footing for years you had this massive infrastructure and they clearly couldn't couldn't pay for it i mean

00:06:07.620 what we've seen in ukraine and i keep telling people hey there's am bremer told me the other day

00:06:12.920 there are 800 000 dead or wounded uh russian troops in this war which is mind-boggling number

00:06:20.280 and and and you know when i was on sea duty you know we our mission was soviet submarines russian

00:06:26.640 submarines and come back to the pentagon everything is about the folded gap the north german plane i mean

00:06:31.180 these guys had a we actually had to ford deploy tactical nuclear weapons and purging missiles that

00:06:36.720 caused a firestorm with president reagan and thatcher back in the 80s just to make sure we could

00:06:41.100 defend it that's not the army you see today with the wagner group and these other mercenary groups

00:06:45.780 were they because people troops soldiers officers saw a way to make a living since they weren't going

00:06:53.020 to be employed really by the red army anymore i mean how did this whole thing of of these mercenary

00:06:57.140 groups led by these russians even come about yeah no i mean it's it's great that you center kind of that

00:07:03.840 that post-soviet experience right after the collapse of the soviet union because that kind of solves the

00:07:09.720 uh the supply end of of creating a a private military company or a pmc there are a lot of

00:07:16.780 uh russians and citizens of the former soviet union who uh who have military experience and

00:07:24.780 you know are out of work or there's not you know they're underemployed and these are the skill sets

00:07:31.080 that they have um in russia itself and hold it hold it hang on i just want to make sure by the

00:07:38.140 by the way we are as soon as the president walks in the oval we are going to go live john but their

00:07:42.540 skill set is killing people i mean these guys you read this book i mean this is pretty savage right

00:07:48.620 these their their skill set because i keep telling we don't teach world war ii right world war ii our

00:07:54.540 allies are the russian people the bolsheviks are horrible stalin's horrible but if you want to read 0.94

00:07:59.560 a war at a different scale than we fought in the west as brutal as the west the war in the west and

00:08:04.960 the pacific they're horrible but you want to read something that's almost unhuman it's the war it's

00:08:10.600 it's operation barbarossa right and so from that lineage these guys are not playing by the marquee

00:08:17.360 of queensbury's rules they they don't believe in the geneva convention these are essentially savages am i

00:08:22.420 incorrect well i mean there's that great section of the book right where uh progosian decides he's

00:08:30.340 going to take bakhmut from the ukrainians uh kind of a middle uh sized city in ukraine the ukrainian

00:08:37.260 army decides they're going to defend it and so progosian's method for for taking bakhmut from the

00:08:43.740 ukrainians it's just old school soviet style he gets permission to go to russia's entire prison system 0.53

00:08:51.020 he visits all of the prisons and he's and he shows up and he and he says i have an offer for you

00:08:56.560 you you fight for me for six months in bakhmut and you and you survive then you go free your criminal 0.86

00:09:05.740 record is expunged and he says just like you said he says very directly to the prisoners and he was a

00:09:11.040 prisoner himself so he speaks their language he says my losses are worse than stalingrad if you if

00:09:17.420 you show up on the front and you decide this isn't what you signed up for you'll be shot on site

00:09:21.600 if you uh if you try to desert you'll be shot on site and he uses the exact language that stalin used

00:09:28.740 when he was creating uh what were effectively penal battalions of people who had fallen uh foul of of

00:09:36.120 the bolsheviks was which was you know pretty much anybody during stalin's time they they formed these

00:09:41.600 penal units and they would throw them into the hairiest part of whatever fight against the germans 1.00

00:09:45.860 and and the goal of it as they said was to atone for their sins with blood and and that was the

00:09:52.800 exact language that showed up on the contracts that these uh prisoners were signing uh to go to the

00:09:58.180 front how did you i'm going to get to more of the story but i want to give it all away because i want

00:10:04.100 people to read this book i want people to read this book because it's a wake-up call look they asked me

00:10:08.980 on british tv the other day where i'm talking about the russian repression they said you oh because i was

00:10:14.020 all over zelinski and they said uh you know i call him a punk and a crook and they go oh you trust

00:10:18.440 putin i go no i don't trust putin putin's kgb he's the last guy in the world i trust him less than

00:10:23.020 zelinski but i said uh rinston churchill partnered with stalin and fdr too they didn't trust them

00:10:28.900 these are bad guys but sometimes you got a partner with bad guys how but how did you get the detail

00:10:34.400 the book kind of reads like a novel so how did you get all the insights the conversations and it's

00:10:40.920 spread over a battlefield that's pretty much i mean it's from africa to eurasia you've got both

00:10:48.200 strategy and you got the brutality of what these guys do for a living how did you how did you get

00:10:53.240 all that well look i mean that that was the toughest part i mean getting the information also was

00:10:59.700 obviously difficult i mean i took uh you know as they're detailed in the book i took a number of

00:11:05.500 risks i i just went to these war zones and i you know found the numbers of some of these guys and

00:11:11.920 i called them up and i met with them and interviewed them and you know i think they at first they were

00:11:18.420 curious why is a russian-speaking american here in the middle of the central african republic i'm sure

00:11:23.940 they thought that i was intelligence but you know curiosity can often get the best of you and and you

00:11:30.320 know i i just made an effort over the long term uh to to get their stories and i i interviewed for

00:11:36.180 the book probably about 40 guys in wagner uh who were either fighters or executives or affiliates of

00:11:43.000 um the founder yovgeny prigogion but so it took it took a lot of being on the ground in these war

00:11:49.940 zones to to collect kind of the stories and then it took even uh even longer kind of sitting there trying

00:11:56.420 to think about like you said how do you craft a narrative that that brings together uh how russia

00:12:02.480 works how these uh african societies work how complex these civil wars are that wagner is intervening in

00:12:09.840 and and these i mean are some of the biggest you know wars that are happening today in ukraine

00:12:16.280 syria uh the sahel libya and so you know it took a lot of research and it took a lot of time to

00:12:23.420 figure out a way to take the reader through it in a way that is also engaging and uh and and

00:12:30.220 accessible to a general audience go go back to that point it's great point i want to make sure

00:12:36.860 this audience fully understands it the scale of conflict in the world today this is why

00:12:41.040 i'm such a huge believer in trump and try trump is trying to hammer uh swords into plowshares both

00:12:48.100 ukraine the middle east china but give the audience a second we got about 90 seconds in this break we'll

00:12:53.140 hold you through the break about the scale of conflict that's going on in the world today sir

00:12:58.400 yeah it's i mean it's at the highest scale uh i think probably as you said since since going back

00:13:06.640 to close to the world war ii to some of the the early days of of the cold war i mean i think we have

00:13:14.160 probably you know the tally is about 100 million refugees right now uh in the world today you have a

00:13:21.080 a full-scale state-to-state conflict between two you know two very kind of uh serious nation states

00:13:29.940 in russia and in ukraine and as you mentioned you know the losses there are are staggering uh syria

00:13:37.620 continues to be uh an area where we don't know just earlier today uh there there's been a kind of a minor

00:13:45.180 insurgency and this is across the middle east and and north africa that we see continued precarity

00:13:52.040 and instability and the conditions uh in the world today point towards uh more not less uh conflict in

00:14:00.480 our future this is the point john hanger for one second john lechner death is our business

00:14:07.960 it's a inside view with a great strategic overview of modern warfare and it's brutal

00:14:16.960 you won't totally understand what president trump the what he's trying to accomplish until you

00:14:25.880 understand the raw just viciousness of what is out there i'm not so sure the people in europe

00:14:34.000 understand it i really don't i don't think they fully grasp what's happening in ukraine i just

00:14:38.260 don't certainly in the united states please the maga movement so many veterans we're gonna take a short

00:14:45.860 break john lechner is going to be with us if president trump comes the oval we'll cut right away

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00:16:42.440 okay um as on cue ladies and gentlemen uh kobayashi has is reporting right now that

00:16:55.320 president trump is going to focus on the jobs report and like i said i don't think they've

00:16:58.940 done a great job in selling how good news president trump already is having in this jobs report

00:17:03.260 and there's going to be some choppy water but like i said there's 9 000 auto jobs so president trump

00:17:08.080 the primary purpose is going to start with the jobs report but uh since we have john lechner here

00:17:15.140 and he's given us the the really the details of how the russian army really fights particularly

00:17:20.500 this mercenary army and i told you that overnight the russians pounded ukraine and president trump's

00:17:27.320 kind of said hey uh i want a stand down this is why zelinski come up and ask the security guarantee

00:17:33.180 he said i don't want to hear it i want to see a stand down don't don't be asking me for security

00:17:36.360 guarantee that's why he threw him out i don't think he was very happy last night uh because

00:17:42.560 he's working he's got team in saudi arabia he's got wit uh witkoff on it witkoff's his guy he's the

00:17:47.520 tip of the spear in this thing steve witkoff good man very close to trump for decades um they're

00:17:54.460 trying to work this thing out and they get pounded last night like i said trump is a no games guy

00:17:58.780 don't play games with me reporting now uh from bloomberg uh that russia is willing to discuss

00:18:05.200 a temporary ceasefire with ukraine provide this progress to our final peace settlement per

00:18:09.740 bloomberg headline putin ready to agree ukraine ukraine truce with conditions

00:18:16.640 so i think we're gonna have some big movement on that today and over the weekend we'll be on it 24 7

00:18:22.600 lechner i i want to step back for a second because this is not taught in the west it's one of the big

00:18:30.620 um and we try to do it in this show and like i said i don't trust the kgb putin i spent my youth

00:18:38.120 uh as a naval junior naval officer on a destroyer our entire mission was hunting uh and protecting

00:18:43.960 uh the carrier battle groups from fast attack submarines spent three four years in the pentagon

00:18:49.120 the whole time there 100 was on russia um but i've i've learned that people have not been taught

00:18:57.100 world war ii appropriately when the russian people think of war or when these kind of guys like these

00:19:03.340 wagner group guys what their men their thinking about war is quite different than hollywood's in

00:19:10.240 america and what we think about you know saving private ryan and all the movies and the and and how

00:19:15.580 we think of d-day and other things give me your understanding of the russians people thinking

00:19:21.160 when they think of conflict and they think of of war sir yeah i mean i think well there there are

00:19:28.120 two big differences i think that you can point out one uh that the russians have a much higher

00:19:33.920 tolerance for casualties on their own side and so they can get into uh a war for attrition i mean during

00:19:41.820 uh war war ii you know i think the if i remember correctly the rate was that uh the the soviets would

00:19:50.820 only pull back from a position fighting against the germans if they had lost 60 of their force 0.98

00:19:57.000 and so you know you they throw in 100 guys they they only pull back and retreat if after 60 or so

00:20:05.520 have have died and so i i mean these kind of tactics that they often use and we were talking about the

00:20:12.280 human wave tactics and in bach mood that wagner was using i mean it it's just it's brutal uh it's

00:20:20.420 inefficient but they do it for a reason it's also effective over time and so in bach mood 0.85

00:20:27.620 the the the russians for example were taking probably four casualties or four people killed

00:20:34.240 for every uh one ukrainian but they consider that to be to their advantage because the guys that

00:20:41.500 wagner was throwing into the fight as we mentioned they were convicts they were prisoners these were the

00:20:46.720 people that uh society didn't need and the ukrainians they were losing less guys but the guys that they

00:20:52.780 were losing were some of their most experienced talented fighters and so for forgive you anybody

00:20:59.120 goes in bachner's founder uh for the kremlin this was uh this was a ratio uh that made sense

00:21:05.640 and and there's a long tradition i want to go back to yeah yeah hang i want to go back to bach mood

00:21:11.720 because it was bach mood in 22 or 23 it was it was like six or eight weeks every day on the show we

00:21:16.860 would give an update because it's basically a crossroads but it's essentially leads to a place

00:21:22.220 but it's not like kiev you're not you're not it's not a siege of a major town it's kind of a crossroads

00:21:27.860 but every day i think for six or eight or ten weeks it was like world war one the trend i mean

00:21:34.200 they pounded it every day and they were relentless what what was the thinking when they think of a place

00:21:39.060 like bach mood i mean go ahead we can get we can get into this i i think you know war can create

00:21:47.320 uh can create significance right and and so like you said bach mood itself it's a small city it's not

00:21:56.080 it's not the capital kiev but uh what what happened basically was that both uh wagner's founder

00:22:05.540 evgeny prigozhin promised to deliver this victory to to putin and the russians hadn't had a lot of

00:22:11.160 major victories uh by by that point so bach mood starts to gain significance for the russians

00:22:16.800 and and president zelensky also decides that that the ukrainians are going to defend bach mood

00:22:22.660 despite the fact that again it's not strategically significant and it's actually in a position that is

00:22:28.700 uh geographically in terms of the terrain is is actually uh dis uh at a disadvantage to the

00:22:35.620 ukrainians it's kind of located at the bottom of some hills on on either side and so uh it it wasn't

00:22:44.340 a good position for the ukrainians to be in but the decision was made that somehow bach mood

00:22:49.700 became sort of a bellwether for the war itself at that point like you said everyone was covering it

00:22:56.700 every day and you know whether the russians or the ukrainians were pushing forward kind of became

00:23:02.660 a a way to measure how the war was going itself and and so it took on uh far more significance than

00:23:11.400 than the city or the position itself actually deserved and like you said it was just a brutal

00:23:17.260 fight of uh of the russians using human wave tactics uh throwing guys out of the trenches you know

00:23:24.220 eight out of ten could be killed but but two jump into the ukrainian trenches and get one or two guys

00:23:29.900 and just constant just constant they call it in russian the meat grinder um and i mean i think it's

00:23:36.840 a pretty uh apt name for it no but then you see the parents i i've said the most rational people in

00:23:44.120 this entire tragedy have been the parents of young men and women 18 to 26 years old they just said

00:23:49.740 how many times i put up in the legislature they go no way we're not sending our kids into the

00:23:54.460 meat grinder because we see how brutal this thing is and we see how these mercenaries that fight for

00:23:59.400 the russians and the prisoners are are they're at another level and we don't want our kids to basically 1.00

00:24:04.880 die in the battlefield is that what happened essentially in ukraine uh i mean it's it's it's

00:24:10.620 difficult because you know for the for uh for the ukrainians it is existential and i think that there are

00:24:18.220 you know there are plenty of um there are plenty of uh kind of criticisms that can be made at at a

00:24:27.720 tactical level uh like bakhmut but i think overall uh there is still widespread support for the soldiers

00:24:35.780 on the front line and a lot of griping kind of in the background about you know these types of

00:24:40.360 situations that uh that that are happening and how some of the generals are are using the ukrainian

00:24:47.760 people as resources but uh it's a difficult position i think for the families also to be in because you

00:24:54.600 can disagree with the tactics while also kind of agreeing to uh the overall strategy or the need

00:25:00.980 uh to defend because like you said too i mean that the russians are uh are brutal 1.00

00:25:07.260 i don't want to give too much away because i want people to read the book and the book is a wake-up

00:25:13.240 call i think the people in the united states to say hey this is what the world's really like

00:25:17.040 right and i think it's particularly important for veterans and families of people in the armed

00:25:23.020 service and go in the armed services uh to read this and understand what your kids are really signing

00:25:28.300 up for right because this thing is brutal i want to go what led these guys to believe they were like

00:25:34.080 the praetorian guard what led to this incident where they actually thought that they become you know

00:25:40.000 they were so good or somehow it was miscommunicated what was going on that eventually they marched on

00:25:45.800 they actually turned on putin himself it looked like they turned on putin and we don't i mean even

00:25:50.360 at the time we didn't know if it was a fake it was a misdirection play what's your sense of that did

00:25:54.900 they just get ahead of themselves did they just think that they were they were like the praetorian

00:25:58.700 guard and they could determine who who runs russia sir yeah i mean it's a great question because the

00:26:05.240 other reason why i think this book is important uh for for readers is is to introduce people to

00:26:12.300 some of the russians other than putin right who uh who are in russia and show that there are plenty

00:26:19.900 of russians working within putin's system who are incredibly ambitious uh often act independently

00:26:26.640 rashly uh and and can sort of fall out of the kremlin's control evgeny prigozhin as he kind of comes

00:26:34.980 out in the book this is a guy who went from an ex-con himself to a a contractor for the military to

00:26:41.960 eventual uh founder of this mercenary army and and his ambition uh and his ego were were essentially

00:26:50.220 limitless um but he was operating uh in a system where you can really take some gambles and you can

00:26:57.560 really put your neck out on the line it kind of basically saying i'm furthering russia's national

00:27:02.120 interests but if those interests shift or the strategy shifts then then you're going to be

00:27:08.420 hung out to dry and it's a dangerous position to be in and evgeny prigozhin he made a lot of enemies

00:27:14.220 over the years uh especially with his ambition and and his very uncouth and and brash ways of doing

00:27:21.300 things uh and so really the the crisis came when the ministry of defense decided they were going to

00:27:28.400 cut off evgeny prigozhin from these this prison population which he needed to deliver bakhmut as 1.00

00:27:35.040 a victory to prigozhin and then the the ministry of defense went further and they said actually

00:27:41.040 all uh russians fighting in ukraine right now have to sign a new contract with the ministry of defense

00:27:48.600 and so prigozhin was about to lose all of all of these thousands of wagner fighters which he understood

00:27:54.340 and even said made him a political force on the domestic scene and i think that's ultimately what

00:28:00.720 you know i think his decision was yeah it's either i die tomorrow or five years from now yeah

00:28:05.680 hang on for one second we'll take a short break have you back like the roman legions right 0.98

00:28:10.920 one of the head of the one of the head of the legions in uh in persia say hey i've had a pretty

00:28:15.840 good run maybe i'll turn this wagon around we'll head towards rome see how it turns out

00:28:20.660 short commercial break we are going to go to the oval office with president trump

00:28:25.840 as soon as the cameras come on with our own brian glenn john leckner

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00:31:39.100 natalie's going to join us from the white house in the five o'clock uh hour john um where do people go

00:31:45.120 we can tell there's a lot of interest in the audience on this where do people go to get the book

00:31:49.900 and are you doing any book signings you're going to be anywhere that people can go hear you talk or

00:31:54.360 are you doing a podcast with anybody that's set up people want to know more information about this

00:31:59.880 yeah absolutely well i mean the book is uh is available in uh in any uh any good stores uh barnes

00:32:09.100 and noble books a million or or any other great uh store in your town you can also buy the book

00:32:15.480 obviously on uh on amazon uh and any other online retailer as well it's with uh bloomsbury uh publishing

00:32:23.760 and um i have a book signing tonight at uh politics and pros uh here in dc uh we're planning a few

00:32:32.640 more that i can keep the audience updated with on uh john lechner author.com

00:32:38.000 perfect in politics and pro the book signing is at what time 7 p.m

00:32:44.400 7 p.m okay note to warren posse it's probably it used to be in the old days before i it used to be

00:32:53.540 in the old days before i took on this line of work with president trump my favorite bookstore in

00:32:56.920 washington dc and probably one of my favorite in the country let's say i don't frequent it as much as

00:33:02.020 i used to please if you go see lector tonight do not and i repeat do not wear your maga ball cap

00:33:08.340 just go in and go in undercover pretend you're a vogner group don't even worry don't even worry

00:33:15.200 yeah exactly okay like like lechner hold it lechner said lechner say he's going to give you

00:33:21.380 cover so where where are your where are your maga cap walk up to lechner and say hey i'm here because

00:33:26.300 i heard you on the uh i heard you on the war room so 7 p.m tonight politics and pros and folks

00:33:30.440 if you haven't been there it's a fabulous bookstore particularly like politics history

00:33:34.640 all of it it's it's amazing and these author they they they have uh very prominent people uh show

00:33:40.840 up uh to give talks so john that's pretty important uh at least what the establishment's telling you is

00:33:46.500 that they they they they love the uh they they love the books anyway look forward to have a success

00:33:51.780 tonight politics and pros at seven in uh out on connecticut avenue and i look forward to having

00:33:57.200 you back sir thank you thanks for having me let's go over to his website now you can explore

00:34:04.260 more about extraordinary guy the the tales of these uh and this is what the reality is

00:34:10.120 first off it's one of the realities that the young men and women that go into the service to the

00:34:15.280 american army in africa in the middle east i mean this is one of the reasons these experiences come

00:34:20.800 back and this is hey the whole thing with the va what's going to happen to it the restructuring the

00:34:24.540 va it's got to be talked about i mean this announcement you're just getting rid of 80 000 people

00:34:27.980 i realize the va is now up to what 450 or 500 post-covid but it's really got to be thought

00:34:34.080 through because just read this book and you'll see what uh you'll see what people are are up against

00:34:39.560 because it is uh the wagner guys are that mercenary army is very much what's happening in uh very much

00:34:46.700 happening in russia in many elements the other part of the books is quite good is that when president

00:34:50.580 trump negotiates with uh putin the reality is that there's a little bit like the roman republic or roman

00:34:59.700 empire and that there's different kind of power centers and a lot of power centers uh are really

00:35:06.340 driven by ability and particularly guys to think hey i've got troops i got weapons you know we're not

00:35:14.880 we don't actually live in a democracy you know maybe i can make my move now so it's a uh it's a

00:35:20.820 very fluid situation over there as president like i said putin has announced he's prepared for a

00:35:25.480 ceasefire uh i think president trump sending a message not just publicly but i'm sure on back

00:35:32.260 channels that he's just not going to sit there he's not going to be happy with uh he's not going to be

00:35:36.760 happy with um uh games being played uh the whole world's got a lot of a line here president trump has

00:35:43.420 gone out of his way and so many times he talks about the casualties from ukraine he talks about

00:35:48.120 the casualties in russia and look the ukraine numbers you know because they're trying to hide

00:35:54.180 exactly what how bad it's been president trump says up to a million dead and wounded i do know because i

00:36:00.800 talked to ian bremer and ian's a guy that will get down to the number uh ian told me flat out the

00:36:06.840 russians are 800,000 dead or wounded which is just a stunning number in three years you understand why if you 1.00

00:36:13.120 read the book death is our business because like i said there's a dramatic scene when um the head

00:36:19.420 guy goes the wagner guy goes to the prisons him having been a prisoner before and he just says hey

00:36:24.360 look this is gonna be like stalingrad but you're either going to spend the rest of your life in

00:36:28.140 prison or 10 or 20 years or some of you guys are going to die here or i'll give you a shot if you 0.98

00:36:32.860 make it through you're free now it's unlikely you're going to get through but at least you die out 0.54

00:36:38.420 there is a warrior instead of dying here as a slave uh it's pretty powerful he gets a lot of

00:36:43.340 signups that's how nice russian prison is it's a different world and we have to understand and this

00:36:49.940 is why it upsets me so much the elites in this country are prepared i mean right now on the

00:36:55.280 romanian ukraine border you have a brigade of 101st airborne i mean that could be mo now she went to iraq

00:37:02.420 but you know this is this is sons and daughters of everyday americans and they signed up for it

00:37:07.220 they're not whining they're not bitching this is what they want to do this is what they signed up

00:37:10.620 to do but read the book and just see what we're putting our kids in the middle of and there's no 0.81

00:37:19.540 need to do this it's ridiculous people are making money off this the european you know the europeans

00:37:24.520 are talking they're all big talk now their bluffs getting a little bit called by the bond market um

00:37:30.040 so the it's it's and this is president trump what he's trying to do is get some framework around

00:37:36.880 this so when you lay the guns down the war of attrition can start stop and then you start

00:37:41.800 talking about some sort of deal some a subset of this is going to be the situation in persia where

00:37:48.080 i think the russian is going to work to have some sort of diplomatic american persian sit down uh the

00:37:54.520 new head of the idf the chief of staff when he said when he said um it's going to be a year of war

00:38:01.040 he's talking about in gaza he's also talking about in judea samaria i think he's talking about

00:38:06.220 some cleanup in syria maybe some hezboa but he also says hey they call it iran i call it persia but

00:38:12.440 iran and as you know there's very little to no support very little support for engagement in any

00:38:19.000 kind of conflict with persian either on ground or any air assets there's got to be another way to solve

00:38:23.540 that so um it's a volatile situation it's a very volatile situation very volatile situation

00:38:31.140 then you come back here and the audience and you guys are going to have to be kind of the

00:38:37.920 the arbiter here because we have to get serious

00:38:43.720 and only this audience can make people serious about spending cuts nobody wants to cut spending

00:38:50.540 let's be honest up on the hill is because it's too politically painful the reason we're in this

00:38:55.620 situation is because we've avoided this for decade after decade after decade if you look at the deficits

00:39:01.900 we had in the first couple of years of trump before covid before covid hit they're relatively small you

00:39:08.580 know i think there was an argument we could close that time but they're relatively small i think the

00:39:11.700 first one was 400 billion a couple compared to today when you're at two trillion dollars and it's

00:39:16.940 structural we have to get serious about cutting that the only way you're going to cut it and i've

00:39:22.720 said this before yes there is waste for an abuse one you have to identify it two you have to stop

00:39:27.440 paying for it three you have to rid it from the system you have to hold people accountable

00:39:30.960 because there's been all this waste for an abuse remember it's been financed for years

00:39:34.800 and people have run the organizations that did it so you have to do that accountability but it's not

00:39:41.160 going to be a trillion dollars you're not going to cut the deficit in half with with uh with

00:39:45.540 waste for an abuse spending cuts that's too that's too it's not a magic wand you're going to have to

00:39:50.580 get into the tough into the tough decisions defense medicaid the other social programs because you're not

00:39:58.560 going to touch the entitlements right now of medicare and social care it's just not going to happen

00:40:02.700 it's another fantasy if people tell you well you can't do it until you then they're lying to you

00:40:07.280 because you can at least make an effort and close this thing up you can it's going to be painful

00:40:12.500 it's going to be the media is going to be all over you every day of the week

00:40:16.320 right just like it deporting 10 million people you think it's gonna be easy

00:40:19.420 think that's going to be you see the deportation rights how tough it is even get the criminals out

00:40:24.240 when you have sanctuary cities have these governors guys like pritzker these people fighting you tooth

00:40:28.840 and nail so it's all difficult right stopping the war is difficult that's why trump's just doing an

00:40:34.860 extraordinary job standing in the breach and i'm glad today because i don't think and this is why

00:40:41.340 i think it was good scott got on the road i think lutnik and and and navarro and has it and and

00:40:48.660 and um scott they're terrific i think it's got to be kind of more coordinated and hammered and more

00:40:54.880 surrogates outside surrogates ej and tony of the world he's still given the best description of the

00:41:00.620 of the difficulty of this economy of anybody of what president trump inherited president trump is

00:41:06.160 taking the bull by the horns that's why i think we're having this press avail and i don't believe

00:41:10.180 it's around the the executive order signing for the uh for actually getting rid of the education

00:41:16.620 department which i believe is supposed to be today supposed to be yesterday i think

00:41:20.120 they're tightening up the executive order but president trump is going to go on offense i think here

00:41:25.560 momentarily and talk to you about the jobs report in inside the jobs report there's some nuggets

00:41:30.100 i think 9 000 jobs created in one month in january uh in uh in uh in the automotive industry is

00:41:38.160 shows you what president trump's doing about the automotive industry this is part of this is part of

00:41:42.800 the whole tariff strategy and bringing manufacturing back here what honda's already announced i think

00:41:48.100 there's been some other announcements also i think these are extraordinarily important and president

00:41:54.080 trump's going to talk about that he's also i'm sure he's going to bring up the fact that

00:41:57.500 you know with his efforts after this uh bombing overnight uh the shelling overnight uh by the

00:42:04.560 russians in ukraine that he's uh you know he's got somebody's attention and now putin's saying he's

00:42:09.680 willing to have a ceasefire that's a big movement very big movement president trump and whitkoff and

00:42:15.860 these are thinking about this overall rapprochement with the russians how it's going to look

00:42:19.340 and it's extraordinarily important and you got the europeans and the ukrainians nipping at your

00:42:24.380 snapping at your heels uh they they clearly they're going to have some say so it's got to be minor and

00:42:30.440 it's got to be not it cannot drive this deal because this is between principles i just don't think

00:42:36.380 they're considered a principle i don't because it's an overall strategic relationship that can solve

00:42:43.540 the situation in europe the potential for a european war which is how world war ii kind of started

00:42:49.060 it started as a mainland war between apparel uh japan and china up in manchuria and it started

00:42:54.040 with the um you know i would actually say with the with the um spanish civil war but then in 1939

00:43:00.980 it was a european war it was a european war until 1941 until operation barbarossa until the wehrmacht

00:43:08.960 to the germans attacked their strategic partner or at least their alliance partner the russians and

00:43:14.640 kind of a sneak attack on barbarossa and guess what happened six months later the sneak attack

00:43:21.520 of pearl harbor very much close you know people don't tie those together very very inextricably

00:43:26.980 linked this is what president trump's dealing with and this is why the spending has to get and it look

00:43:33.720 it's obvious now he's going to do it himself we wouldn't be in this situation and this audience

00:43:38.580 wouldn't be upset as you should be upset if johnson and these guys i said for months and months and months

00:43:42.940 just let's get on the table and tell the truth don't don't don't say we should spend all this

00:43:47.740 time of reconciliation when you have to get 2025 fiscal 2025 has got to be sorted then you deal

00:43:52.660 with 26 we didn't do that okay short break maybe back to the white house when we return

00:43:58.860 we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp 1.00

00:44:06.580 we've seen all the headlines cyber attacks on our power grids drones in the sky violent attacks on

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00:45:13.760 the crisis is here here's your host stephen k bann

00:45:19.500 okay uh we will go live to the white house as soon as we know they're they're out in the side 0.75

00:45:27.120 room right now uh brian glenn is i think going to be there he's their position we also have a camera

00:45:31.640 crew so president trump's going to be in the the oval i believe i don't think it's a roosevelt room

00:45:37.100 things will mean oval uh and he's going to do a press avail and there'll be some questions i think

00:45:41.740 he's going to at least do jobs report i think he's obviously going to talk about russia i'm sure he's

00:45:45.480 going to bring up some the situation on doge um and uh the cr this could be this could go for a

00:45:52.300 while and it should be great real america's voice is going to cover it live of course charlie

00:45:55.540 kirk follows us if you haven't seen charlie's podcast with uh governor newsom you should definitely

00:46:02.260 watch that newsom's running in 28 and i know the audience wants to get ahead of all this you want

00:46:07.800 i know i know i know but you got to know what's out there and so newsom's definitely and you see it

00:46:13.120 in the charlie podcast very volatile capital markets around today why is that uh times of

00:46:18.820 turbulence geopolitically financially uh deportations at the border coming war with the drug with the

00:46:24.900 cartels uh the chinese have a curse to live in interesting times baby i will tell you you live 1.00

00:46:31.960 in interesting times there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks in which decades

00:46:35.860 happen and right now we're having week after week after week why president trump flood the zone days of

00:46:42.600 thunder he is on fire and i'm telling you the weight of the world's on his shoulders but he's getting it

00:46:47.660 done look at that command performance on the state of the union or the joint address to congress and

00:46:53.420 compare and contrast what could have been run in this country just always remember that that freak show

00:46:58.640 that went out of its way stole the election and then try to destroy this country and try to destroy

00:47:03.760 everybody around president trump saying to prison and uh and make sure he died in prison sent all of us to

00:47:09.160 prison debank us de-platform us the whole thing and remember we talk about de-platforming all those

00:47:14.060 tech bros are all running around and all loving up on president trump and everybody around president

00:47:19.120 trump they were the tip of the spear in doing that and they all bought in they had no problem it's only

00:47:24.680 when through your work the precinct strategy and grinding it out canvassing only in your work

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00:49:52.840 trump live yes sir so later this afternoon we're going to have prepared for your signature and

00:49:58.120 executive order dealing with the public service loan forgiveness program this is a program that's

00:50:03.680 designed to expedite the basically the conclusion of payments on student loans for people who have

00:50:10.640 taken out federally backed student loans the problem though is that a lot of these people work for

00:50:16.580 for ngo organizations for non-profit organizations that engage in illegal or what we would consider to

00:50:23.440 be improper activities supporting for example illegal immigration or foreign terrorist organizations

00:50:30.240 or otherwise of law-breaking activities so this executive order will direct your department of

00:50:37.300 education and department of the treasury to basically bring about modifications to the public service loan

00:50:44.500 forgiveness program in order to ensure that people who are engaged in these sorts of activities can't

00:50:49.460 benefit from a program that's really not intended to support those sorts of things and what are the

00:50:53.780 consequences if they are not good the consequences would be that they they wouldn't get forgiveness of

00:51:00.580 their student loans as they would be eligible for if they were working for the government or a normal

00:51:07.540 non-profit that's not violating the law all right any questions on that anybody have any questions

00:51:14.540 so we'll talk about the manufacturing turnaround and it's been very early but it's pretty significant the

00:51:22.460 numbers were much better as you know than projected by the media and a little surprising actually how

00:51:31.940 strong how fast because we have many many companies are moving into our country as you probably know

00:51:38.100 it's a statistic that everyone talks about but nobody seems to have done much about

00:51:42.340 uh since the beginning of nafta there's been 90 000 plants and factories closed

00:51:48.900 in this country think of that 90 000 plants and factories have been closed in this country many of

00:51:57.220 them have been uh car manufacturing plants and that's a terrible statistic and we'll be turning

00:52:03.860 that around you're going to see it already we already have numerous that are being built or starting to

00:52:08.740 be built and numerous that were being built in other countries and they stopped and they're coming

00:52:13.540 here now because of the tariffs and that's a big deal that's what you want to hear during the last year

00:52:19.540 the biden administration saw a loss of more than 110 000 manufacturing jobs or 9 000 manufacturing jobs

00:52:31.540 every single month it averaged about 9 000 a month 110 000 manufacturing jobs during the first full month

00:52:39.140 in office we've not only stopped that manufacturing collapse collapse but we've begun to rapidly reverse it

00:52:47.300 and get major gains we created 10 000 manufacturing jobs in february alone that hasn't happened in a long

00:52:56.260 time and these aren't government jobs which actually we cut these are private sector manufacturing jobs so

00:53:03.940 we gained all of those jobs 10 000 jobs and we barely started yet it's a very unusual number people are

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Bannon's War Room - March 07, 2025

Episode 4321： Leaning Towards The Kinetic Part Of A 3rd World War

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