Episode 4328： Courts Shine Light On DOGE; Will America See A Government Shutdown
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Summary
In this episode, President Trump and I discuss the impact of the CR that passed the House of Representatives on the economy and the economy in general. We also talk about the impact on the stock market of a trade war between the US and other countries and the impact it will have on our economy.
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The way it's important in entitlement spending, you know, which is all of the, which is most of the federal spending, is entitlements.
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So that's like the big one to eliminate, because that's the sort of half trillion, maybe six or seven hundred billion a year.
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That is also a mechanism by which the Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by essentially paying them to come here and then turning them into voters.
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So this is why the Democrats are so upset about the situation, because they're losing, you know, if we turn off this gigantic money magnet for illegal immigrants, then they will leave and they'll lose voters.
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Why are the 20 million people who are definitely dead marked as alive in the Social Security database?
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Why were hundreds of hundreds of millions of dollars of small business administration loans were given out to people aged 11 and under, according to the Social Security?
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I mean, like these must be some very enterprising eight year olds, you know.
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As the president said, you know, we have an enormous number of people marked as alive who are 160.
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All eyes are on Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson as he unveiled the stopgap measure.
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Because with Democrats planning to vote against the bill, Speaker Johnson has zero margin for error.
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They could only lose one Republican vote and still get this through, given the margins.
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And already right there, you see the one Republican.
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Tom Massey has already announced that he is voting no.
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You know, I have to tell you, when I watched Elon Musk and I watched Trump with this this whole plan of his to start a trade war.
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I go back to Smoot Hawley and in 1930, they we lost like seven billion dollars in trade and exports because of what the other countries did back to us.
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The other countries cut off all their imports and we get stuck with our agriculture products overloaded in this country.
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I look at Trump and I keep thinking, Trump, the Trump casino in Atlantic City.
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That used to be the big casino you drove right into Atlantic City.
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This idea that things will turn out is right out of Chauncey Gardner in being there.
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He's going to he's telling the president, Jack, don't worry.
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We're going to we're going to plant in the spring and we're going to sow in the fall and everything's going to be great.
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And it's going to be worse in the next couple of days and worse after that, because he has started a trade war that we're going to lose.
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And it's unbelievable that people believe in it.
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And Kudlow, when he sat there and made those weird sounds to every time Musk said, oh, that's good.
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You're lying because people come in this country illegally.
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Well, they do come in illegally and they don't get any Social Security benefits.
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They pay in all the time because they have to use some phony name, but they don't get any benefits from it.
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You lie, you know, about the president, about Obama speaking.
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Maybe you're one of the five million dollar guys that bought a ticket here.
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Why didn't the Democrats rise up and say we are not paying Social Security to 160 year olds because there aren't any 160 year olds.
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The lies and the history, the ignorance of this crowd is unbelievable.
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And there are people out there, the MAGA people don't know any better.
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The strange reaction to everything is fine is these grunts they have.
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Do you think there are enough Republican votes to get this passed without Democrats?
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You know, there are some very astute Republican members of Congress who have legitimate questions and concerns because they've been here some time and they have seen the CR after CR after CR come about and leadership say, hey, this is going to happen again.
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Mike Johnson is doing the best he can to turn this aircraft carrier around and get us back to regular order.
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We've got to get another six months under our belt, get the reconciliation process done, get the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act renewed.
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So we won't have the largest tax increase in U.S. history.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Tuesday, 11 March, year of our Lord, 2025.
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President Trump's economic plan that he is refusing to back off.
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He's going to increase, I think, by 25%, up to 50% on tariffs on steel and aluminum coming in from Canada.
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The first thing I want to go to, I've got Dave Bratz, my co-host, this morning.
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We are absolutely packed wall-to-wall for the next two hours.
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I want to go to Mike Davis overnight, which the media hasn't totally picked up yet.
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This is another one of the – and folks, remember the lines of attack on President Trump's program.
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One is the media, but the one they've been most effective with because they're not really getting it done legislatively,
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although I believe that the Democrats are not going to sign on to the House CR.
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Where they've been most effective is in the courts, particularly with these frontline radical judges,
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and then where some of the appellate courts have not backed President Trump.
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Because, Mike Davis, I think we've got some bizarre rulings, like the president can't cut.
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The $2 billion is still out there in foreign relations or foreign aid that he's forced to do.
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But last night, a federal judge went after Doge and essentially said,
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hey, I need to see – we need to see everything.
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I don't understand it, this judge said, essentially.
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Because the Doge effort is actually central to this CR.
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This is one of the things that the people that are hesitant about signing on – I do believe everybody's going to sign on.
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They're hesitant about signing on about exactly where the Doge cuts are and why they're not included now.
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So what was the argument for this – in front of this judge and what was his decision, sir?
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Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which is CRU or a left-wing radical group that pretends like it's a government watchdog,
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ran to a D.C. Obama activist judge, Chris Cooper, and they got an injunction telling the Department of Government Efficiency or Doge
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that they're subject to FOIA and they have to turn over these records.
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FOIA applies to executive branch agencies that have statutory power to administer programs.
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Judges are not required to turn over and make public their internal deliberations,
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their communications with their law clerks and secretaries and other judges and staff.
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Members of Congress are not required to turn over their internal deliberations,
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their conversations with their staff and their colleagues.
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The president of the United States and his staff are also not required to turn over
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and make public their internal communications and their discussions with their colleagues.
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And so Doge reports, it's in the executive office of the president, Elon Musk and the Doge team reports
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to the White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles, and they advise the president.
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They don't have statutory administrative functions that would subject them to FOIA.
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And even if FOIA somehow applies to Doge, that would probably violate Article 2 of the Constitution
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because the founders understood that the executive branch, the president,
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should be able to operate confidentially on behalf of the American people.
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And when you're getting advice from your advisors, you don't want that advice publicly aired
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because it chills the president of the United States' ability to get the best advice for his advisors
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if they know it's going to get reported in the Washington Post.
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By the way, I think I know a guy that that was one of the reasons he went to prison for four months
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Is this why they put Doge under the digital service and had it as an advisor to OMB
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Is this the reason that Doge is there so it's part of – it's actually a part of the executive
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So, for example, there's the executive office of the president.
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There are several components to the executive office of the president.
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The components of the EOP that have statutory administrative functions
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that they actually have to execute, carry out statutes, their agencies are like OMB.
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OMB is subject to the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA.
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But other offices that don't have statutory duties to carry out government functions,
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government grants, government agencies like the White House office or Doge are not subject to FOIA.
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This Obama D.C. judge, Chris Cooper, clearly got this wrong.
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The D.C. circuit, if they follow the law, they will reverse him.
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If they don't, it will have to go to the Supreme Court.
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I guess it's just going to matter what mood the Chief Justice and Amy Coney Barrett are in that day.
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Is it – did he make – in the ruling, did he actually break it down, these thoughts about FOIA, or did he just miss it?
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He thinks that, oh, wow, Doge has a lot of power, which it doesn't.
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It's derivative of the president's Article II executive powers.
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It's by – look, this Chris Cooper is not dumb.
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He's just a partisan hack, like too many of these activist judges, particularly on the D.C. district court.
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Now, has the White House overnight responded, or you still think they're working this through?
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And are they going to ask for – to expedite a review at the appellate level?
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I haven't seen a public statement on this, but this is a very important issue because this goes to the heart of whether the president can function,
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whether he can get the best advice from his advisors like Steve Bannon, who went to the clink over this, and Peter Navarro, who went to the clink over this.
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Is Elon Musk going to go to the clink over this?
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Is he going to go to jail for four months to protect the office of the president, to make sure that the president gets the best advice from his advisors?
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And again, you're not going to get – it's going to chill the president's ability to get good advice from his advisors if this advice is going to get publicly aired.
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It's going to make these advisors not speak up, and that hurts the president.
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Should we ask for Chris Cooper's law clerks to turn over their communications with Chris Cooper or their draft opinions?
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We're going to drill down a little bit more on this.
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This is very important about Doge going forward to get an injunction against him.
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Also, the president has gone on offense against the legal insurrection that's up against him.
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Eric Tietzel from CRA about the CR and the economics behind it and what we're doing and the vote today.
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Dave Bratt here about the turmoil in the markets.
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We're going to talk about – Charlie Gasparino has written a great piece in the Post.
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I'm not a huge Gasparino fan, but he seems to have nailed this.
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Okay, the economy, all this turmoil that's going on, we're going to have Dave Bratt and I are going to break it down for you.
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Eric Tietzel's here from Center for Renewing America, the Russ Fote operation.
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So do the Doge guys have to lay down their pencils on this?
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Is this merely they're being required to turn over all information?
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They are being ordered by Judge Chris Cooper to turn over information.
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So it's not lay down your pencils, but if you use your pencils, we're going to publish it in the Washington Post,
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which is clearly not what FOIA stands for, nor Article 2 of the Constitution.
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So it looks like another D.C. activist judge, a Democrat operative, an Obama judge,
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is going to get reversed by the Supreme Court so long as the Chief Justice and Justice Amy Coney Barrett
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Yeah, I mean, this is what I'm wondering people about, because we've seen this before, is that,
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and this gets to the CR, because the CR is about impoundment.
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You know, the House and the Senate is talking about rescissions.
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This is going to be one of the big hangouts for the Democrats, because they're going to want specific language,
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which I think the Senate, we're going to have a huge fight and kind of a throwdown on this.
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But I just don't, you know, I'm just not feeling on the court with those two,
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but hopefully, you know, they'll get tougher and smarter.
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He's going on offense against these law firms that run the city.
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And we've seen that with taking away their security clearances,
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and I think he's really going after all the government business they get and get them off the tit.
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But he's also going on offense, this article in Revolver,
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and I'm glad to see Darren Beattie's over as the undersecretary over at the State Department.
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Hasn't been confirmed yet, but he's kind of acting.
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President Trump's using injunction bonds, is it,
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to go on offense against all these frivolous lawsuits against him?
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Yeah, so under Rule 65C of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure,
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I haven't had civil procedure class in 20 years.
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But how this works is if you seek an injunction,
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which is, you know, a quick injunction, essentially,
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or a preliminary injunction or a permanent injunction,
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If you seek a preliminary injunction or a temporary restraining order
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under Rule 65C of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure,
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So if you lose, the party is not out the money.
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So, for example, if you're trying to force the State Department and USAID
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to piss away $2 billion in taxpayer funds to grantees
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who the president doesn't want this money to go to,
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he wants to do a pause to make sure that we're not funding Hamas terrorism or fraud,
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if the United States government, if the Trump administration eventually wins that issue on appeal,
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which it will, then the government needs to be able to recoup
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those $2 billion in grants that went out to support terrorism and to support fraud,
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the new judge who just got put on there, Canadian citizen judge.
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We have a Canadian citizen, the first Muslim, the first Arab on the D.C. federal bench
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is a Canadian citizen and ordering the State Department
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and the U.S. Agency for International Development or USAID
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to send $2 billion in grants over the president of the United States objection.
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He wants to make sure there's not fraud or terrorism funding.
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And Judge Ali thinks he's the commander-in-chief,
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and Justice Amy Coney Barrett and the Chief Justice thought that was okay.
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So what the Trump administration is ordering is for his lawyers to demand
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which requires that you post these appellate bonds if you're suing the government.
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And so it makes it less likely you're going to sue the government
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if you have to put up, for example, a $200 million appellate bond
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to make sure that $2 billion is not pissed away by these plaintiffs and Judge Ali.
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Before you go, the judicial insurrection against President Trump,
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are they winning right now or are we winning or is it a tie?
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No, it's the tides turning because you have these activist judges
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who came out and tried to stop President Trump.
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And then these judges pretend like they're not politicians in robes.
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and they climb into the political arena and they throw political punches,
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I make damn sure the Article III project throws very hard political counterpunches
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like we've done with Canadian, Muslim, Arab, Judge Ali in D.C.
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But the Article III project is going to be on this every second of every day.
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Trump's not stealing judicial power or legislative powers.
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Folks, in War Room Posse, we've got to be on watch on all of the legal insurrection.
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It's very important that you make Article III part of your daily diet.
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And we want to take $2 billion out of the federal judiciary's budget, their $10 billion budget,
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and FY 2025 to cover Judge Ali sending $2 billion to terrorism and fraud.
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I'm going to get Eric Tietzel on here because today, this hangs in the balance.
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I think we're going to get there in the House, but that's only part of the way.
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You're going to be with me for the morning, but I want to limit.
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Just give me a minute or two on kind of our theory of the case,
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and really Charlie Gasparino did a very good job of outlining this today in the New York Post.
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Literally, we try to get cuts of all these important topics.
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They totally shifted to Trump's bringing on a recession, Trump's imploding the economy,
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What's the reality of this, what President Trump is trying to do geo-economically, sir?
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Yeah, President Trump is the first great president since Ronald Reagan to try and restructure
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Productivity, as we've gone over on this show for four years in a row, is down for 70 years
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The one way to enhance productivity in American workers is to put capital back in the hands
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$100 billion alone from Taiwan in capital back in the hands of the American people.
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The globalists, the mainstream press, and I got some numbers on them for later in the
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show, but they are misrepresenting everything, right?
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All the EJ and Tony list of horrors the other day.
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The whole list of interest on the debt, a trillion.
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The basic bottom line is they're saying there's a recession coming.
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We've reported on this show, if you stripped out, and several economists, I showed this
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analysis, if you stripped out the $2 trillion of deficit spending from the Biden economy,
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they were in a horrific recession already, right?
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Adding $2 trillion, plus I checked the money today.
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The money's still at $7 trillion on the Fed balance sheet.
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This is what Gasparino said, which we thought was great.
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He also said the addiction, this is an intervention on the addiction of federal spending and how
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This is what DOGE is kind of the special forces in there right now for waste, fraud, and
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The follow-on, it's going to happen this summer, is taking these programs apart, brick by
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brick, Pentagon, Medicaid, other social services, social safety net.
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You're going to have to have some cuts, and some of these cuts are going to be painful,
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whether you're a hawk at the Pentagon and a neocon, or whether you're talking about Medicaid
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Our audience hates CRs, particularly they hate like mini omnibuses, which this is.
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I understand that there's a theory of the case here of why we want to do this.
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People are saying, hey, I've heard this before.
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So let's make the case because we don't get it out of the house.
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And Johnson's only got, I think, he can only lose one vote, and he's already lost that with
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Tom Massey, who's been pretty blunt about why he's not there.
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So Tietzel, walk us through why this audience should be not happy, but begrudgingly say,
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okay, let's get it out of the house and send it to the Senate, sir.
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And I don't relish the opportunity to defend CRs.
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I keep having to pinch myself and ask if this is really the world in which I'm living in.
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I spent a weekend with Russ voting, Chip Roy, and trust me, they ain't loving it either.
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But they did the heave to get there because of practical reasons.
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And this is why I think, I don't know why we're in here by leadership, but got us into
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this, got President Trump, with the weight of the world on his shoulder, all the negotiation
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with the Russians, what's happening in Saudi Arabia with the Ukraine, President Trump on
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the economy, he's going up today at 5 o'clock, and we'll hopefully cover it, the business
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Scott Besson's there tomorrow to have a discussion from 5 to 6, and we'll try to do a pregame
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The weight of the world's on this guy's shoulders.
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He's literally making phone calls on this thing.
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Not the best use of the time of one of the greatest presidents in our history.
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Of course, that's the institution founded by Russ Vogt.
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Mark Paoletta, Jeff Clark, superstars who are now in the administration and either doing
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deregulation, as Jeff Clark is, or over at OMB.
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President Trump's saying, hey, I got to have it.
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I think it's going to await a buzzsaw in the Senate.
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Eric Tietzel from CRA is going to make the case for that next, right here in the war room.
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So Eric Tietzel, the CR, vote's going to come about the same time President Trump is up at the business roundtable late this afternoon.
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Why is this something that the Warren Posse should support their congressmen on when they take a vote that most of them are very uncomfortable with, sir?
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Yeah, I think I'm going to need some of the tools on Tej's backdrop if I keep coming on here to promote CRs for much longer.
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We at CRA, we often talk about positions versus interests.
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There's simply a swamp tactic that's used to get you to an omnibus bill.
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But we are living in new times that require new paradigms.
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And in this particular moment, this specific time with Donald Trump as our president, Russ voted OMB, Elon doing the doge thing, and all the other great folks who are put in place all throughout the administration,
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it is in our interests not to shut the government down, to continue to fund it so that they can continue to doge, so that we can move on to reconciliation,
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which is the single most viable opportunity to advance President Trump's agenda legislatively,
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and then to move on using things like impoundment to start to cut some of the spending that is included in this CR.
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And that will all happen in the next six months.
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Also during that time, we'll start the FY26 appropriations process, and that's going to be the first real opportunity
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to get at some of the discretionary spending that is admittedly bad at the Biden-Harris levels that are included in the CR.
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We don't love it on principle, but this is the way to further the president's agenda.
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And that's why you have things like the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus
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at the leadership press conference this morning, standing side-by-side with Mike Johnson,
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saying, we agree that in this new paradigm, this is the way to move forward for President Trump.
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So you had Vice President J.D. Vance went up and talked to the conference.
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He said, hey, guys, if they shut us down, they're going to throw it way off track,
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And the House Freedom Caucus, and I think it's unanimity among the Freedom Caucus,
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or at least the ones on the bubble, I think we'll get there by the vote,
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which is highly unusual because these guys are adamant.
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Those are the 40 or 50 Democrat votes you normally need because of the House Freedom Caucus.
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But here's the question, is that we're not including,
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I think what sticks in people's crawls, they can't get their heads around,
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is that DOGE, and whether that number's $500 billion or whether it's $5 billion,
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the fact that they have found definitely some waste, fraud, and abuse, right?
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we're essentially paying for the waste, fraud, and abuse.
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And so, one, what is the element, what is the tactic?
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What are we going to do to make sure that doesn't happen
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throughout the rest of fiscal 2025 between now and September 30th, sir?
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So, here's what's important for people to understand.
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Just because Congress appropriates money does not mean that that money gets spent.
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There's an intermediary step called obligation,
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and that runs through the Office of Management and Budget.
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It has to pass right through Russ Vogt's fingers
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in order to actually hit the spot that Congress appropriated it for.
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They may do that, but that doesn't mean that you've spent up to the credit limit.
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You have to go to the store and actually spend the money before it gets obligated.
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increase the credit limit according to the Biden-Harris levels,
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and then handing the credit card to Russ Vogt and Elon.
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They've already proven that they're not going to spend that money.
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He's going to say, this doesn't further our interests.
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And the president has the authority as the executive of our nation to say,
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And they're going to send it right back to the Treasury.
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Okay, we know there's not one Democrat vote in the House for this.
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Normally you get 40-50 because the Democratic Party lives off and breathes for big government
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Hakeem Jeffries has got them lockstep because it's about Doge and about this ability to do
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They are set to shut down President Trump's government.
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In the Senate, with Rand Paul right now saying he's a no, I don't know.
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We're going to need seven or eight minimum Democrat senators to break cloture at least.
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And we don't know what other Republicans are getting jiggy on us.
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The Democrats have already signaled that their big fight is they're afraid if they vote for
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that it just empowers Elon Musk and his Doge team to go crazier.
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But their solution may be to say, okay, we'll do this, but we're going to actually put in their
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version of the CR where Russ vote and folks can't impound, can't rescind that this is the number
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There is definitely a likelihood that because of Senate Democrats, the House passed CR can't
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get through the Senate, at least initially, and that will lead to a shutdown.
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But think about what the context will be of that shutdown.
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House Republicans will have passed a clean CR at Biden-Harris spending levels.
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And now you're saying that Senate Democrats are going to shut down the entire federal government,
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which is their number one constituency, in which they have howled and cried for years every single
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time Republicans have shut down the government, right?
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And they will have no ground to stand on because we haven't cut a dime in the CR from what Biden
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What's their explanation to the American people?
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What's their explanation, much more importantly to them, to federal workers who won't be getting
00:39:35.900
And I think you're going to find the seven or eight weak sisters who are willing to say,
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We may not like it, but we can't do this shutdown thing.
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And they will open it back up and we'll get to move forward.
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But if they don't, well, then the government is shut down.
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And there are plenty of conservatives out there who've been hankering for an opportunity
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We don't want to shut down President Trump's government.
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And this is where we get into, because look, we're just simply, he reiterated yesterday
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he's going to find a trillion dollars of waste, fraud, and abuse.
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And he would be treated as a hero, not just in conservative movement by the American people
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But my worrying assumption, you're not going to get there.
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You're going to have to get to the hard work of programmatically taking this thing apart.
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That is going to take place in the spring and summer of 26, according to this schedule.
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I mean, we went through these fights before, I think, in 23 to get single-subject appropriations
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bills, and it wasn't great, like USAID was still in there, but we were making progress,
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How, I mean, what is your theory here, and Russ's theory, of how we actually get to the
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hard work in the appropriations process so we don't have to do CRs again, and we actually
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have single-sub-appropriations bills that really go after federal spending and go after
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The tie that binds this all together is President Trump.
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This is his party, it's his movement, and it's his agenda.
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And I don't think any of these guys want to get outside the bounds of what President Trump
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is demanding that they do, alongside Elon and Russ and the rest of the team.
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So that's what gives us hope, is this new leadership and the new paradigm that flows from
00:41:34.640
President Trump matters a lot more than Mike Johnson.
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He matters a lot more than any other individual member of the House or Senate.
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The last thing any of these guys or gals wants to do is be the focal point of his ex-feed,
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his truth social feed, Elon's ex-feed, and so on and so on, right?
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Can you imagine anything worse for your political interest and career than to be in that spotlight?
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They are going to instruct these folks to do their work.
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And because we have that regime in power, I'm ambivalent about whether we do single-issue
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I think it's a good and effective way to really get, as you said, into the machine and start
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But if what they want to do is an omnibus, but it's an omnibus that furthers President
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Trump's agenda, then we'll move forward in that way.
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The point is the spending, which we've got to get under control.
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one of the busiest sectors, they have zero days, days where there are no gotaways at all.
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And we have this helicopter passing over me right now.
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I'm not sure where they are on the money part of that, but they've got to work and get that
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That's La Linea cartel right on the other side of that thing.
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And also, one last thing, Steve, about this is just because the numbers are down does not
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There's a striker brigade coming into this area pretty soon.
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Even though the numbers are down, they're needed.
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Where's the dilapidated wall that you just saw?
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Where was that in relation to this and Crystal Ray?
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Yeah, that's eight or nine miles to the west this way.
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And that thing, that is La Linea territory over there.
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And I've been there many times on the Juarez side where they're just climbing over that thing.
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It's not this bollard stuff that you see right here.
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Right now, they're not cutting through as much, obviously, because there's a lot of soldiers over there.
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There's a lot of border patrol that they're not processing people in.
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I know this is the first time that border patrol has actually been free because they were processing under Biden to actually work with you and escort you, right?
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