Bannon's War Room - March 13, 2025


Episode 4334: Weakness In Europe; The Fourth Stage Of The Fourth Turning Stage Is Chaos


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

171.44543

Word Count

9,583

Sentence Count

746

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

38


Summary

On today's show, Andrew Yang and Alex Blumbergert discuss the latest in the ongoing trade war between the United States and the European Union, as well as the latest on the Ukraine conflict. They also discuss the recent decision by a federal judge to strike down a key piece of legislation limiting the ability of a law firm representing Donald Trump to interact with the federal government.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big questions, but a key question, since Wyckoff is in Moscow, is what pressure the Trump administration is willing and ready to apply on Russia to abide by a ceasefire?
00:00:14.840 Is there any inkling of any of that?
00:00:18.840 It hasn't been talked about. All of this should not be aired in the press, no offense.
00:00:23.180 But I think we'll get to a better endgame if some of this is quietly done. It doesn't seem like it.
00:00:29.400 I also saw a report that Putin has already rejected the 30-day ceasefire.
00:00:36.160 Apparently, the way I was seeing it just before walking on, they're casting doubt on it.
00:00:40.720 But again, everything is an angle.
00:00:42.520 But to embarrass Trump publicly is not a good look.
00:00:45.900 So I think what would be on the table now with Wyckoff there, and he's a seasoned negotiator, this is not going to be his particular focus, so I read again.
00:00:57.920 But what could be on the table is Russian gives to get to a place that Ukraine could accept.
00:01:06.940 Ukraine has to accept the deal. It's not Trump's deal. It's not Russia's deal.
00:01:11.480 It's Ukraine ending a war that was unjustly launched against it.
00:01:16.720 So moments ago, Jonathan LeMair, President Trump threatened to place additional tariffs on European alcohol if the EU does not lift its 50 percent tariff on U.S. whiskey.
00:01:27.800 The president posting on social media, if this tariff is not removed immediately, the U.S. will shortly place a 200 percent tariff on all wines, champagnes and alcoholic products coming out of France and other EU-represented countries.
00:01:46.080 This will be great for the wine and champagne business in the U.S.
00:01:50.900 So, Andrew, let's just get your reaction here, both, I mean, this European EU tariff news just a few moments ago on Truth Social.
00:01:57.800 But certainly it has been days worth now of increasingly rhetoric, hostile rhetoric from President Trump, Canada, Europe, the like, and seemingly not backing off these threats of tariffs.
00:02:12.040 Look, I just think there's two things that we need to talk about this morning.
00:02:14.740 One is just some historical perspective.
00:02:16.860 I think we might have mentioned it on the broadcast before, but you go back to 1930, Smoot-Hawley, those tariffs, and then you look a year later, what happened to global trade?
00:02:28.460 It dropped by 60 percent.
00:02:31.680 That's what happens when you get in a trade war.
00:02:34.400 It becomes a back and forth.
00:02:36.900 It becomes a retaliatory effort.
00:02:38.900 That's where we are, and if it continues, I imagine we will look a year later from now, and we will say that global trade has declined in a very, very material way.
00:02:50.640 I will also say something we have not talked about on this broadcast at all.
00:02:55.380 You talk to folks in the travel industry, folks that are involved in airlines, in hotels, and everything else.
00:03:04.060 This trade war is going to turn into something broader than just a trade war.
00:03:11.460 People in other countries are not coming to the United States the way they used to.
00:03:16.680 You are going to see travel drop.
00:03:18.660 Foreigners saying, we don't like these people, literally.
00:03:22.120 And I think that that has an economic impact but has a much broader, more profound impact that has not even been sort of calculated in what's going on here.
00:03:31.360 As the judge hinted there, this chilling effect, what were law firms and other legal experts concerned about?
00:03:38.360 So this firm was the basically lead counsel for the 2016 campaign for Hillary Clinton.
00:03:45.160 They helped fund the dossier that Trump obviously became obsessed with and hated and thought was unfairly tarnishing his ties to Russia.
00:03:57.180 The same law firm in 2020 was at the forefront of many of the post-2020 election efforts to overturn the election.
00:04:08.680 They fought Trump in court throughout the country, and they beat him time and time again with a lawyer named Mark Elias.
00:04:15.320 Mark Elias has since left the firm, and subsequently a partner at the firm who had been involved with some of the stuff around the campaign and the dossier and Trump's ties to Russia was indicted and went to trial and was acquitted.
00:04:34.160 So there has been a judicial process on Perkins Coie before.
00:04:41.860 One of their partners was indicted.
00:04:43.300 He went to trial.
00:04:43.880 He was acquitted.
00:04:44.900 Trump tried to sue Perkins Coie.
00:04:47.160 That lawsuit fell flat.
00:04:49.360 But what happens is, is that last Thursday, he signs this executive order that essentially cripples the firm.
00:04:56.300 It basically says that this firm that has a big office in Washington cannot interact with the federal government, essentially stops them from interacting with the federal government.
00:05:06.820 And if you're a client of Perkins Coie and your lawyer cannot interact with the government and you have contracts with the government and business before the government, it is highly detrimental.
00:05:17.700 And that is what Perkins Coie's lawyers, they have their own law firm now representing them, Williams and Connolly, says yesterday.
00:05:25.340 They say that this is almost, this is an existential threat to this firm based on the simple fact that Donald Trump, nearly 10 years after Perkins Coie committed what he thinks is his first sin against him, is suffering under because of this executive order.
00:05:42.300 I think the fundamental thing that Americans need to understand, and I'm talking about, like, not the government, but the people watching, is your relationship with Canada, your economic relationship, it's good for you.
00:05:56.320 The trade between our countries is balanced and mutually beneficial.
00:06:00.440 The stuff you buy from us, you don't buy it, like, out of the goodness of your heart.
00:06:04.860 You buy our energy because you need it.
00:06:07.460 I think you're from Indiana, right, Kate?
00:06:09.140 Okay, so 80% of the potash that American farmers use, and that is fertilizer, you buy from us.
00:06:17.200 You need that too.
00:06:19.260 Uranium for your nuclear reactors, you buy that from us.
00:06:22.660 So you need the stuff that you buy from us.
00:06:25.120 It's good for you that you get it.
00:06:26.960 There is no country that is a better friend and a more reliable ally than Canada.
00:06:31.260 And at the same time, we're your biggest market.
00:06:33.680 So I have to say, like, for us, we agree with the Wall Street Journal.
00:06:39.180 This is a dumb trade war.
00:06:41.520 It is utterly absurd.
00:06:43.840 And we don't really understand why you would pick a fight with your best friend who has only ever been a really good partner to you.
00:06:52.240 But if you keep on doing it, we'll just keep on hitting back.
00:06:55.500 How about no tax on tips?
00:06:57.320 How about no tax on overtime?
00:06:58.740 How about no Social Security?
00:07:00.300 How about all those things?
00:07:02.120 These are the kind of thoughts that will change America.
00:07:05.800 I know what his goal is.
00:07:07.460 No tax for anybody who makes less than $150,000 a year.
00:07:12.080 That's his goal.
00:07:13.300 And that's what I'm working for.
00:07:14.840 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:22.420 Pray for our enemies.
00:07:24.360 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:27.660 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:31.920 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:33.820 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:35.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.
00:07:37.020 But you're not going to stop it.
00:07:37.960 It's going to happen.
00:07:39.240 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:07:42.620 MAGA Media.
00:07:43.520 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:49.400 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:53.160 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:59.520 War Room.
00:08:00.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:08:08.000 It's Thursday, 13 March, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:08:11.380 We wanted to give you a cold open that gave you the entire width of the battlefield.
00:08:18.080 So you can have a battlefield perspective on every vertical that we're fighting on and President Trump is fighting on.
00:08:23.300 We didn't even have a chance to add this morning, breaking news, the CDC, Weldon, who is Make America Healthy Again.
00:08:32.260 His nomination was pulled.
00:08:33.840 The rumor is about they didn't want questioning on measles.
00:08:37.960 We're going to try to get Mary Holland, maybe even Bobby Kennedy himself on here later, because that would be unsatisfactory.
00:08:44.560 You can't pull him over measles.
00:08:46.020 No way.
00:08:46.900 Impossible.
00:08:47.680 So we've got to get to the bottom of that, because Weldon, CDC, we've got to get this thing sorted.
00:08:50.900 Of course, you saw everything from taxes to the judicial insurrection.
00:08:57.060 Mike Davis is going to join us at 11 to go through this whole, because on the legal front, I mean, boom, there's seven or eight court decisions, court opinions right now that are slowing us down.
00:09:09.720 Also, John Solomon's going to be here breaking news about a new investigation he's got.
00:09:16.180 Excuse me.
00:09:17.740 Let's get Jack.
00:09:18.580 So we have Jack.
00:09:19.380 So we can Ben Harnwell.
00:09:20.840 Jack, the biggest news of the morning.
00:09:23.460 Wall Street Journal is reporting coming out of Moscow.
00:09:25.880 This is a senior aid to Putin.
00:09:28.820 Putin appreciates President Trump's work on all this, but he put on a military uniform, went to Kursk and said, thanks, but no thanks.
00:09:38.580 Your thoughts, sir?
00:09:40.720 Well, Steve, thanks again for having me on.
00:09:42.980 And everyone here in the war room knows the way that we've known for years on end since the day this war began and even prior to when this war began, that this was always a situation where the West and NATO were walking Ukraine down the primrose path into being smashed by Russian forces.
00:10:01.660 And that's what Professor John Mearsheimer said over a decade ago now.
00:10:06.220 And we specifically talked time and time again about the effect of German armor on the blood memory of the bloodlands of the East, especially Kursk, where the largest World War II tank battle and actually the largest battle tank battle in human history took place.
00:10:21.520 That's why the Russian forces go all in.
00:10:23.520 That's why Putin puts on the fatigues.
00:10:26.000 That's why he goes down there the first time that he's put on fatigue since the beginning of this war.
00:10:30.900 He's sending a message about what happens when you come after Mother Russia.
00:10:35.200 That's a message, by the way, for domestic consumption as well as international consumption.
00:10:40.620 So on the heels of that, it's very pretty obvious to understand that's not exactly the kind of outfit that you wear to the ceasefires reception.
00:10:47.900 That's not exactly what you wear to the treaty signing.
00:10:52.080 Look, Jeddah took place.
00:10:54.020 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, yeah, but hang on one second.
00:10:57.840 I want to make sure the audience understands this, you know, because the Western media portrays Putin as like the personification of the devil.
00:11:05.820 He's also got, you know, we had, what was it, Fleckner on last week, his new books, his new book, Our Businesses is Death, about the Russian mercenary army.
00:11:15.820 As he said last week on the show, John Lechner, that there are many more bad hombres in senior Russian military command in the Kremlin than Putin, guys who, and to wit.
00:11:30.120 And Kurs the other day posted, I think you broke the story, to outflank the Ukrainian and incredibly brave guys that took Kurs, to outflank them,
00:11:39.800 the Russian army, the Russian troops, crawled through six miles of a gas pipe to come up and back of and outflank the Ukrainians because they couldn't envelop the Ukrainians.
00:11:52.340 The Ukrainians were so tough, they couldn't be enveloped.
00:11:54.920 This is the type of fight this is.
00:11:57.260 And Putin has got some very bad hombres that think, quite frankly, he's a pussy.
00:12:01.980 They think Putin's kind of weak.
00:12:03.460 They don't think he's tough enough.
00:12:04.580 And they think he's kowtowing to Trump.
00:12:06.300 Am I too far off base on that, Jack Posobiec?
00:12:10.080 Well, Steve, here's how it is, right?
00:12:12.380 There's people within the Kremlin, particularly from the military side, the security side, the FSB side, which, of course, Putin himself also comes from,
00:12:21.720 that they've wanted Kiev to be glassed for a decade plus.
00:12:26.780 They said just glass the place, get rid of all of them, dismantle this government, take them out by the bayonet and get rid of everything there and install someone in the old way that Russia used to do it.
00:12:38.460 Go in like that, go in big, wipe them out and call it a day.
00:12:42.400 That's been something, obviously, that the Russians have not done to this point.
00:12:46.960 That's something that Lavrov, of course, the foreign minister, has not been pushing for.
00:12:51.140 So the idea that Putin is the one that's driving the furthest of the hard line, no, no, no, no, no.
00:12:58.440 It's that there are people who are far, far, far worse than him.
00:13:02.060 But what I was saying, Steve, is that this work down in Jeddah, the term sheet that's coming out of the Ukrainian side, okay, that's great, that's good.
00:13:11.940 Obviously, of course, we support the efforts of Secretary Rubio, of Mike Waltz down there.
00:13:17.260 But a lot of this is interlocutory theater without the Russian term sheet.
00:13:22.560 And that's why you saw this strategic leak by the Russian hardliners to the Washington Post last night, about 12 hours ago now.
00:13:30.520 You saw this leak from an FSB-related think tank, a supposedly classified document, which is obviously strategically leaked by the Russians to say, look, these are the demands that the hardliners want.
00:13:43.220 That's how far these guys want to go.
00:13:44.860 And, Steve, when you look at this stuff, we're talking about full control over all the regions, demilitarized zones on the northeast border, where, by the way, Kursk is, demilitarized buffer zone around Crimea.
00:13:57.960 That would include Odessa and a dismantling of the Ukrainian government as it currently exists.
00:14:06.660 Hang on, because along with kinetic warfare, you have information warfare.
00:14:10.800 This leak to the Post that was the lead story overnight on the Daily Mail actually showed you the ultra-nationalists in Russia that are going to play Smash Mouth.
00:14:21.160 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:22.480 I also want to say, Steve Witkoff, who's our guy, when he was in Qatar and called Bibi and said, hey, I'm flying in, we've got to sit down immediately on this.
00:14:30.560 And Bibi's guy said, hey, it's Shabbat or it's Saturday, you can't do it.
00:14:34.780 He said, hey, be in your office at 8 o'clock.
00:14:36.700 We're going to talk.
00:14:37.840 I think Witkoff is cooling the seals in Moscow, right?
00:14:42.760 These brothers are playing Smash Mouth at even the pre-negotiating table.
00:14:48.200 We're going to be right back.
00:14:49.500 We've got tariffs.
00:14:50.960 We have taxes.
00:14:52.400 We have a judicial insurrection in war.
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00:16:11.800 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:16:14.160 Okay, I want to hit reset here.
00:16:18.940 So we're going to get to—Mary Holland's going to join us in the second hour.
00:16:21.960 We're going to talk about the CDC, Weldon's nomination being pulled over, Measles, New York Times reporting.
00:16:28.020 Mike Davis is going to be here on the Judicial Insurrection.
00:16:30.800 And this is serious, folks, as we told you.
00:16:32.700 Also, prisoners who were with me or a prisoner who was with me at Danbury for praying the rosary in front of an abortion center, one of the holiest guys I've ever met.
00:16:44.560 We've had him on the show before.
00:16:45.480 Will Goodman is going to be resentenced tomorrow in a state court in New Jersey by some radical judge to send him back to a New Jersey prison on the same charge.
00:16:55.340 We're going to have Will Goodman with us.
00:16:56.740 We've got taxes, tariffs, world's on fire this morning, President Trump on fire, on true social, sending off one missive after the other.
00:17:06.260 But we need to deal right now with this main event and that it would be this ceasefire, ultimately peace.
00:17:13.500 Let's go back over.
00:17:14.480 We've got Ben Harmore who's going to jump in here in a second.
00:17:16.460 I just want to reset the stage.
00:17:18.660 We go to Riyadh.
00:17:19.460 You get this—you know, you get an agreement on ceasefire.
00:17:22.200 But you're a long way from having it because the Russians do have terms and they're going to say, hey, the NATO and other guys have tricked us before.
00:17:33.000 And the Russians are not—you know, somebody on BBC or Sky TV the other day, a woman asked me, the host, well, do you trust Putin?
00:17:40.720 Hell no, we don't trust Putin.
00:17:42.060 He's KGB.
00:17:43.660 Like, Churchill didn't trust Stalin.
00:17:45.860 FDR didn't trust Stalin until FDR got a little sleepy at Yalta and, you know, Alger Hiss and these guys gave everything away.
00:17:53.600 But Jack Posobiec, folks got to understand, to have a rapprochement with the Russians and to actually end the kinetic part of the Third World War is a heavy lift.
00:18:02.860 And this is why with President Trump, with everything he's got going on, with this, you know, war and peace and prosperity,
00:18:09.960 for him to have to call and whip the CR vote—oh, by the way, like the fifth story we have this morning, the Democrats are not going to—
00:18:17.360 I think we're shutting down the government tomorrow night because the Democrats don't have the vote to break the filibuster.
00:18:22.880 So this is all coming together, and I think the next 48, 72 hours is going to be pretty intense.
00:18:28.180 Jack Posobiec, Moscow, Kursk, and Kiev, sir.
00:18:33.620 Well, Steve, of course, this is part of the axis of instability that we've been talking about for a long time because what is it?
00:18:39.520 This is the kinetic part of the globalist American empire that President Trump is working to widen down.
00:18:47.000 This needs to be seen, and the War Room audience understands this, that this is completely interconnected with the tariffs and the global restructuring of the world economy
00:18:58.300 as pertains to the global American empire that President Trump is undertaking.
00:19:02.760 The Canadians think it's about them.
00:19:04.680 The Mexicans, the Chinese—no, no, it's about us.
00:19:07.860 It's about the United States.
00:19:09.420 It's about what's good for the homeland.
00:19:11.180 It's about what's good for the American people and the American worker, putting that first and foremost,
00:19:17.100 not the globalist Davos elites, the Atlanticists, and the bicoastal elites of New York and L.A.
00:19:24.100 It's simple.
00:19:25.540 And, Steve, like your good buddy Gavin.
00:19:28.240 And so when we have a new deal that President Trump—a fair deal that President Trump is trying to put forward for the American worker, it's simple.
00:19:37.980 We are not going to seek monsters abroad anymore, and that also means prosperity at home through manufacturing, prosperity at home through a restructuring of how we run our global trade commitments and our global military commitments.
00:19:54.500 Because if we're not constantly going to war to open up new markets, to search for new commodities, people forget it wasn't just that Biden's son was on the board of a Ukrainian oligarchs company.
00:20:05.600 It was a gas and oil company called Burisma, working for a Ukrainian oligarch there in Ukraine.
00:20:12.420 That's what's predicated all of this.
00:20:14.680 That's what's been driving all of this.
00:20:16.160 Why?
00:20:16.420 Because if you get over there, you get the oil deal, then you're able to have the U.S. be subservient because it all comes down to financial trade in the global markets.
00:20:25.440 But President Trump understands that it's intrinsically linked.
00:20:28.620 That's why he's brought up the mineral deal.
00:20:30.440 That's why he's trying to find a way to economically restructure things so that the United States isn't on the hook for these things anymore and also that you completely knock the neocons and neoliberals out.
00:20:42.080 Why?
00:20:42.800 Because he's trying to change the incentives.
00:20:45.460 If you change the incentives, then you have the ability to actually restructure the entire ball of wax.
00:20:51.960 So we're not going to be searching for constant NATO expansion.
00:20:54.560 We're not going to be searching to knock off, you know, this regime and that regime all the time.
00:20:58.160 Why?
00:20:58.600 Because we're not going to fund the U.S. government by debt anymore.
00:21:04.520 I just want to make an announcement.
00:21:06.480 Absolutely magnificent there, Jack, tying everything together.
00:21:10.060 The price of gold, $29.63, it's on a run.
00:21:14.200 The converging forces around this, I need everybody right now, Birch Gold, text your phone, ban it, 9-8-9-8-9-8, get investing in gold in the air of Trump.
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00:21:30.760 And, Scott Besson, let's go right to the White House, the Secretary of Treasury, Jack Handel.
00:21:35.200 He's doing a press gag.
00:21:36.180 Let's go right to the White House.
00:21:37.220 Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besson.
00:21:38.500 We want to protect the American worker, that a lot of these trade deals haven't been fair.
00:21:44.060 But, you know, I can tell you what's not good for the economy is this government shutdown.
00:21:48.600 I don't know what Democrats are thinking here because they're going to own it.
00:21:52.060 And to the extent that it hurts confidence, hurts the American people, we have had incredible Republican unity since January 20th.
00:22:02.860 And the fact that the Democrats are in disarray, they're flailing, and this is the best they can do, that I think this is the economic story for the next few days.
00:22:13.880 Not the tariffs.
00:22:14.720 Not the tariffs.
00:22:15.600 Not for the next few days.
00:22:16.780 If they want to take us into a shutdown, they're going to own it.
00:22:20.240 Would you go back on his question?
00:22:22.060 What plans is the administration making for a shutdown?
00:22:27.120 Okay, let me have it.
00:22:28.660 Right there is the buried lead.
00:22:31.320 It took Scott Besson and the Secretary of Treasury to come outside the White House press gallery right there and say, hey, the Democrats.
00:22:37.800 And I said right now it's the fifth story because people are not talking about it enough.
00:22:41.940 We're going to have a government shutdown.
00:22:43.660 The Democrats, you're going to have Schumer.
00:22:45.660 You're going to have Chuck Schumer shut down the government.
00:22:47.640 Why?
00:22:48.440 They want to stop President Trump from everything he's doing and Elon Musk.
00:22:51.860 And the Doge team.
00:22:53.940 I just would tell those guys, I think the Musketeers, that Elon Musk and the Musketeers, you know, might be even a bigger tear after that.
00:23:04.660 I think it's very important for Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson.
00:23:09.620 As you know, he was one of our big contributors here, given his financial and capital markets knowledge over the last couple of years, to get more out in front of these things.
00:23:17.960 I would love to see him doing more gaggles.
00:23:19.700 I'd like to see him taking more questions from the press.
00:23:21.640 Jack Posobiec, you just mentioned world capital markets, the economy, deficits, all of it, gold's on a tear right now.
00:23:29.200 Why?
00:23:30.220 Because it's a hedge against times of turbulence.
00:23:32.840 We have times of turbulence right now.
00:23:34.500 You see it right now in the uncertainty.
00:23:37.600 And this negotiation is not going to be easy.
00:23:40.340 Remember, they would have never started a war if Trump, you know, the 2020 election had been stolen and Trump was there.
00:23:46.320 But Trump's the only person that can unwind this and stop the kinetic part.
00:23:50.760 Jack, I also want to go back.
00:23:52.240 I did it on Gavin Newsom the other day, but it's like a shock to liberals because they don't watch War Room.
00:23:57.600 What we're seeing right now from the invasion of Ukraine three years ago and the start of this war, it's much bloodier than the – like from the invasion of Poland to the Operation Barbarossa in June of 21.
00:24:13.500 But I'd actually throw in the Chinese going into Manchuria.
00:24:17.460 I would kick in the Spanish Civil War and I'd throw in the Winter War with the Finns and the Russians.
00:24:22.480 You add it all up until Operation Barbarossa in 1941 in June and then later Pearl Harbor.
00:24:29.560 This is far bloodier, far more vicious.
00:24:32.880 This is like World War I type conflict and blood and killing and maiming and casualties than you've ever seen before.
00:24:43.060 People have to understand Trump's stepping in the middle of something and wars always become up to wars of annihilation.
00:24:49.480 Why?
00:24:49.820 People get angry.
00:24:51.000 People – their vendettas.
00:24:52.100 Your family's been killed.
00:24:53.540 Your business has been destroyed.
00:24:54.800 You see your country being blown up.
00:24:56.220 It just gets vicious.
00:24:57.640 The Russian army crawled and walked six miles through gas pipes to surround the Ukrainians because the Ukrainians would not be enveloped.
00:25:07.800 They were fighting that hard and cursed.
00:25:09.440 Jack Posobiec, give me some perspective on how heavy a lift this is for Donald Trump.
00:25:15.180 Look, Steve, I think everybody needs to take a step back, right?
00:25:19.500 We are currently within the fourth turning.
00:25:22.840 The fourth turning was always going to be about chaos.
00:25:26.900 It was always going to be about churn.
00:25:29.340 The other potential – remember, the other side of this coin had the United States going down the other road was a full totalitarianization of the United States government and the U.S. system, which began under COVID, and that at the same time coupled with a third world war versus the BRICS nations and then throw in Iran, North Korea, and probably a couple of others on the other side of that.
00:25:51.520 What President Trump is doing is he's understood the lessons of World War I and understood that Washington's warning and also Eisenhower's warning about foreign entanglements and the military industrial complex, that if you let these foreign treaties run and govern all of your decisions, that is how your wars expand.
00:26:09.740 That is how you get into deeper and deeper and bloodier and bloodier wars.
00:26:13.660 That's how World War I broke out.
00:26:16.520 World War I could have been contained.
00:26:19.260 It was a Habsburg war.
00:26:20.780 It could have been contained to that, but it got bigger and bigger and bigger.
00:26:24.460 Then the czar sends his troops in.
00:26:26.220 Then he gets knocked off.
00:26:27.600 And then, of course, what do we have?
00:26:28.920 The Bolshevik Revolution.
00:26:30.560 Obviously, the exact same territory that we're talking about right now with Kursk.
00:26:34.020 This stuff always happens and expands and expands and expands, leads to the Second World War, leads to the Cold War, et cetera, et cetera.
00:26:42.400 President Trump is saying, let's take another path.
00:26:46.020 That's why he's empowered Secretary Besson in there to say, look, we can find an economic way to restructure the way that we're looking at all of this rather than go down the road of bombs, military, artillery, and the bodies lying in the dirt.
00:27:01.860 Go on Telegram right now.
00:27:03.420 Anyone can go on Telegram.
00:27:04.100 We don't show the videos because it's so horrific here for the War Room audience, but please feel free to go.
00:27:09.480 I believe in free speech, and I believe in free access to information if anybody wants it.
00:27:14.960 You can see the bodies.
00:27:16.780 And I look every single day, and I see the bodies lying.
00:27:20.260 These are Christian European men lying dead in trenches because of the policies of previous administrations.
00:27:28.040 Jack, what's your social media?
00:27:29.420 Where do people get you on Twitter because you are on fire, brother, and the show that follows us at 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time?
00:27:36.360 Well, of course, we're up at Jack Posobiec.
00:27:38.580 You'll see us there at 2 p.m.
00:27:40.000 We're going all in on tariffs today with Gavin Wax and also our new opinion editor at Human Events, Kenny Cody.
00:27:48.100 Wow.
00:27:49.820 I'll watch that.
00:27:50.920 That's amazing.
00:27:51.640 Thank you, sir.
00:27:52.160 Take your number two pencil out and write down security guarantee.
00:27:59.100 Security guarantee.
00:28:00.120 They want to suck in the United States permanently in the Ukraine.
00:28:04.540 Ain't going to happen.
00:28:05.700 Not in the bloodlines.
00:28:06.780 Not on our watch.
00:28:08.040 Short break.
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00:29:16.680 President Trump is up.
00:29:23.920 He's firing away on tariffs this morning.
00:29:26.360 We're going to get into that more, the economics of this.
00:29:29.180 I'm going to play this Howard Lutnick thing again in a second, but I want to get Ben Harnwell.
00:29:33.260 We're going to go to Rome, our international editor.
00:29:35.660 Ben, you've been on this, and you've been right on everything for the last three years.
00:29:39.920 Give me your sense from the European capitals, and this is all coming down to, you can tell,
00:29:47.160 and Putin leaked that to the, or the guys around him leaked that to the Washington Post last night,
00:29:51.680 this story how they have this whole plan to envelop us, et cetera.
00:29:54.860 But this is why this agreement cannot be contingent.
00:29:58.360 A condition precedent on this agreement cannot be an American security guarantee.
00:30:02.960 You know, it's just not going to work.
00:30:05.140 And I will tell folks, if it comes down to that, I think you're going to see more fighting in the Ukraine.
00:30:10.640 We're going to see how the Europeans, how good the Europeans are back in Zelensky's move.
00:30:16.320 I agree with President Trump.
00:30:17.620 Zelensky's got no cards.
00:30:18.920 But this is, there's a huge push to have it from the Ukrainians, from the capitals of Europe, from NATO, from Brussels, from Davos.
00:30:26.300 They want American, young American men and women, boys and girls, as hostages in there and some security force.
00:30:34.100 Harnwell, what's the state of play here from your perspective?
00:30:37.880 Well, look, Steve, I'm basically the only analyst I'm aware of that said,
00:30:44.140 and I think I said this to you in three separate texts before the White House showdown a couple of weeks ago.
00:30:50.240 I said, I don't believe there's going to be any agreement signed in the White House on that day.
00:30:55.020 And I sent you two texts yesterday saying, I don't believe that Russia is going to sign up for this 30-day ceasefire.
00:31:04.940 Now, in terms of punditry, only fools deal with prophecy.
00:31:09.640 But I did stick my neck out with you on both of these occasions.
00:31:12.820 And I can only explain what led me to this analysis.
00:31:17.000 And it's basically this, Steve, I don't think anybody outside of the war room is certainly in American media is trying to look at the situation from not only the Russian perspective,
00:31:29.560 but certainly absolutely not the Chinese perspective here.
00:31:33.040 And that is a massive blind spot.
00:31:35.200 In journalistic terms, Steve, I think this is professional malpractice.
00:31:38.000 If you're the CCP, if you're Xi and you're looking at this, what is the one thing that you would actually be wanting to see happen at this stage
00:31:46.200 when you see the turbulence in the domestic U.S. financial markets right now?
00:31:51.300 You see the war fatigue.
00:31:53.340 The one thing that you would really want to do, and this is what Russia is doing with a fishing line,
00:31:59.020 it's drawing President Trump ever closer in and with his credibility into committing permanently to underwrite Ukraine's security guarantees.
00:32:13.860 Now, they're either going to call it that or they're not, but that is absolutely what's on the card.
00:32:18.020 So if you're Xi here and your long-term ambition is to take Taiwan,
00:32:21.720 the one thing you want to do is to continue to draw in America to do exactly the same commitment to Ukraine that it's doing at the moment.
00:32:32.720 The last thing you want to see is America disengage, basically, is what I'm saying.
00:32:37.900 And what I said to you yesterday by text is I even sketched out what I thought the Russian statement is going to be
00:32:45.900 in response to the Ukrainian offer for a 30-day peace fight.
00:32:50.560 And I said, basically, they're going to be very polite, they're going to be very respectful, but they're going to say no.
00:32:55.400 And we're going to read out some of the headlines shortly, because I think it was a perfect matchup, my prediction.
00:33:00.980 And the reason I predicted this is because it is not in Russia's interest at this stage to agree to a 30-day ceasefire.
00:33:10.380 It's not in interest.
00:33:11.040 They have all the momentum.
00:33:12.300 I saw Vice President Vancey's cousin on CNN a few days ago saying, oh, look, beware of the Russians here.
00:33:22.080 They're going to snap at this 30-day agreement because it will give them an opportunity to regroup, rearm, and refinance.
00:33:29.040 And I said to you, I don't buy it.
00:33:30.820 I don't see it.
00:33:31.460 They have all the momentum, right?
00:33:33.600 But all of this war, Steve, bar the Kursk incursion, has taken place on Ukrainian territory.
00:33:42.200 Russia is the aggressor.
00:33:44.160 It was pushed into this by no-to, but it is the aggressor.
00:33:47.520 It has the momentum.
00:33:49.200 What this 30-day ceasefire agreement that Ukraine has said it's open to is not a ceasefire agreement, Steve.
00:33:56.080 It's a surrender, and that is not going to go down, and this is the other half of the equation, and Jack alluded to it in the first half of this hour.
00:34:07.100 The Europeans are coming along that, and they're supporting – they are ponying up cash.
00:34:13.180 They're not going to tax for this because they know it won't – they know it's not going to go with the European taxpayer,
00:34:18.480 but they're going to borrow in order to fund 800 billion worth of – billion euros worth of defense expenditure.
00:34:25.500 So Zelensky does – it's not true, Steve.
00:34:29.220 Stop, stop, stop.
00:34:30.340 I'll give away.
00:34:30.980 But stop.
00:34:31.420 I know.
00:34:32.180 Yeah.
00:34:33.200 Yeah.
00:34:33.660 Keep going.
00:34:34.760 I'll give away on this point, right?
00:34:36.360 Keep going.
00:34:36.740 It's not true to say Zelensky doesn't have any cards left.
00:34:41.260 It's simply not true.
00:34:42.500 The Europeans are stepping up with borrowed cash to keep this war going.
00:34:47.880 Okay.
00:34:48.300 Okay.
00:34:48.940 Okay.
00:34:49.280 Stop.
00:34:50.240 The only way they have the borrowed cash – every one of those guys are about to –
00:34:54.640 either have a sovereign debt crisis or about to have a sovereign debt crisis.
00:34:59.080 Ray Dalio told us yesterday – he walked through the mechanics of it – that we're heading to a sovereign debt crisis.
00:35:05.700 The 800 billion is a fantasy.
00:35:07.280 There's no – there's impossible, mathematically impossible from the borrow that kind of money to have a thing.
00:35:13.000 There'll be – their bond on their own existing debt today, the refinancing of that, they would collapse.
00:35:19.080 The Italian government is closer to the sovereign debt crisis.
00:35:22.220 The Spanish government, the Portuguese, the Greeks, the Germans, the French, they've already turfed out Liz Truss.
00:35:29.360 Always remember, the bond market is taking out more governments than howitzers.
00:35:35.040 And right now the markets are telling – even the United States is why Dalio is getting ahead of us.
00:35:40.060 Don't get me wrong.
00:35:41.260 They have ephemeral cards, but it's not reality cards.
00:35:46.180 The only reality they have for a financial backer is the United States.
00:35:50.360 And the only thing they have for a military backer with real troops is the United States.
00:35:54.220 And the only thing that Russia understands, the only security guarantee that matters is sucking the United States in there.
00:35:59.840 And the only financial – and this is why I've never been a big fan of the dirt deal, of the rare earths deal.
00:36:07.700 It sucks.
00:36:08.680 All this is doing is entangling the United States in what will be a Vietnam.
00:36:13.520 Look how much time it's taking right now.
00:36:15.220 Look at the opportunity.
00:36:16.540 We have a government shutdown.
00:36:18.100 Jake Sherman, who's pretty good, Jake Sherman just tweeted out of what the moderate Democrats, guys like Mark Warner and these guys are saying,
00:36:26.200 that they're not going to vote for this.
00:36:27.220 Jake Sherman says, hey, it looks like we're heading to a government shutdown.
00:36:30.720 He just had the Secretary of Treasury walk out of the White House to the sticks.
00:36:34.560 And he says, hey, everybody's talking about the tariffs thing, the potential tariffs, and all these tweets going back and forth.
00:36:39.460 He says the reality of affecting the – impacting the American economy is the Schumer shutdown.
00:36:46.220 And so I hear you, and I think that's a good European perspective.
00:36:50.740 But the reality is going to always get back.
00:36:53.340 And this is why the Russians are going to play more and more hardball.
00:36:56.260 And you're going to see the opportunity cost of – because you only have so much time, right?
00:37:02.120 And so it's not just direct cost when you go down an avenue of endeavor.
00:37:08.520 It's the opportunity cost.
00:37:09.800 By doing this, I can't focus on this.
00:37:12.060 By committing resources here, I can't.
00:37:14.360 And the World Bank tells us that the reconstruction of Ukraine is $500 billion.
00:37:19.260 And as you've said many times in the show, Harnwell, double that.
00:37:23.840 It's a trillion dollars reconstruction.
00:37:25.700 So they're trying to suck the United States in.
00:37:28.080 And if we're going to be America first, which is intervention of a choosing – at the time and place of our choosing, hemispheric defense, non-interventionist.
00:37:38.280 But when we do intervene, it's a time and choosing our place.
00:37:42.200 No way Ukraine or that part of the bloodlands.
00:37:46.440 Ben Harnwell, thoughts?
00:37:48.440 Well, Steve, look, you mentioned the key words to America first.
00:37:52.100 Now, and I get that I'm probably a lot more isolationist than you are, and you're a lot more isolationist than President Trump is.
00:37:59.780 But the point is – and this comes back to something that you've been saying for the last three years – no one has ever made the argument where America's interests are in the current Ukraine war.
00:38:09.900 And that's pivotal here because there are no U.S. interests in Ukraine.
00:38:14.980 So an America first perspective on this is going to be exactly what we've been saying for months and months and months on this show, which is to withdraw and totally disengage the United States from Ukraine.
00:38:26.200 And say to the Europeans, if you want to come up and defend Ukraine, defend democracy, have at it, but we're out.
00:38:34.340 That is the policy that this program has been pushing constantly.
00:38:38.400 And it's also right, Steve, you mentioned the rare earth thing.
00:38:43.120 Look, synthesize what I've been saying just now on the show with the – and I'm pushing this out on Geta basically every day.
00:38:50.260 This rare earth agreement is toxic.
00:38:54.160 And in the strongest words possible, I would advise President Trump to have nothing to do with it whatsoever because this is, in the background, the key to Europe's braggart in front of Russia and China here.
00:39:16.300 Close with this.
00:39:17.060 Close with this.
00:39:17.580 You're closely monitoring us.
00:39:19.620 You want to know what the Europeans are doing?
00:39:21.260 Look at Poland.
00:39:21.800 If you want to see the performative aspect of what the Europeans are doing, look at Poland and Italy.
00:39:28.100 Italy has said, look, we're going to raise 40,000 troops, but we're not going to be in everything for years, but we're not sending any to Ukraine.
00:39:35.420 Poland has said to America today in the last couple of hours, send your nuclear warheads to Poland.
00:39:42.980 Let's put them on the border.
00:39:44.060 That's the Europeans' approach here.
00:39:48.680 And it's toxic to every America first interest.
00:39:53.400 That is a massive escalation.
00:39:55.900 Ben, you're following this.
00:39:57.760 Give your social media because this is going to be a moment-by-moment thing.
00:40:01.280 We want to keep the big picture.
00:40:02.580 Remember, and we've got to support President Trump on this, but they're trying to suck us in at every step of the way.
00:40:08.580 The security guarantee in America is essentially underwriting the development.
00:40:12.520 The Europeans are broke.
00:40:14.100 This is all a fantasy of what they're talking about.
00:40:16.800 They don't even pay the 2% they committed for NATO, 2% of GDP.
00:40:21.220 None of them are—when you go through and actually look at what they're spending the money for on climate change, on health care, all of it.
00:40:28.700 When I'm talking about combat arms, interoperability maneuvers, NATO right now, ex the British, can't put forward two combat divisions, two combat divisions.
00:40:38.920 If you can't do that, you're not serious players.
00:40:41.060 That's the entire deal.
00:40:42.980 Ben, social media, where do they go?
00:40:45.800 Steve, I'm on Getter, exclusively on Getter.
00:40:48.640 My social media handle there is simply my surname, at Hardenwell.
00:40:52.880 I'll close with this, Steve.
00:40:54.080 Coming back to NATO and Georgia Maloney.
00:40:57.360 What did she say a couple of days ago?
00:40:59.360 She said that Ukraine should be given, effectively, the NATO security guarantees without being formally a member.
00:41:06.900 Italy, 1.5% of its defense commitment.
00:41:09.800 Who is she coming out here, this bridge between the U.S. and the EU?
00:41:14.360 Who is she basically saying on this?
00:41:17.620 Your great ally in Europe is pushing that.
00:41:20.160 It's America.
00:41:21.080 It's America.
00:41:21.820 It comes back to America.
00:41:23.100 She's supposed to be the bridge, the quote-unquote bridge, really, it's Hungary, it's Orban.
00:41:29.960 Let me be brutally frank to the prime minister of Italy.
00:41:34.580 If you propose that, that would be, I think, enough to say the United States should withdraw from NATO.
00:41:40.860 If the NATO nations want to give a security guarantee, a NATO security guarantee with, you know, with Article 5, that attack upon that, this attack brings everybody into a war, the U.S. should say we're out.
00:41:52.160 We're out.
00:41:53.100 And I'm a supporter of the NATO alliance.
00:41:54.920 But, hey, if you're going to play games like that and you have not even had the decency to get anywhere near 2% in the Italian military, let's say it's been underfunded for, I don't know, I'm going to pick a random number, 50 years, and you're going to sit there and say and put a guarantee that it guarantees American boys and girls in a shooting war in Ukraine?
00:42:15.800 No, not going to happen.
00:42:17.360 This is the kind of dangerous rhetoric, and this is the detached from reality thinking these European leaders have.
00:42:23.860 They need to be taught a lesson.
00:42:25.780 There's no more.
00:42:26.320 We bailed the Europeans out, the European elites, in World War I.
00:42:29.700 We bailed them out again in World War II.
00:42:31.500 We bailed them out again in the Cold War.
00:42:34.740 And now, you know, they want to totally be bailed out from their activity.
00:42:39.860 Right now, it ain't going to happen.
00:42:42.140 It's not going to happen.
00:42:43.040 And right now, we should just stop all of this because it's sucking up too much time, and we're not focused on the Schumer shutdown.
00:42:49.840 Ben Harnwell, thank you, brother.
00:42:51.120 Appreciate you.
00:42:52.600 Thanks, Steve.
00:42:53.300 God bless.
00:42:54.080 John Solomon, if we can get John Solomon up, he's got an explosive investigative report about Biden and classified information.
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00:44:33.400 Okay, world's on fire.
00:44:38.240 A trade war is underway.
00:44:39.660 Schumer shutdown's coming.
00:44:41.180 There's no peace in Kiev now more than ever.
00:44:45.100 We're not interested in the price of gold, which I think is setting a record this morning.
00:44:48.580 We're interested in the converging forces that have central banks buying gold at record rates.
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00:45:54.700 Let's go to John Solomon.
00:45:56.060 First off, Solomon, I'm glad I got you on here today because you're now an old man.
00:46:02.640 You have wisdom, judgment, and discernment.
00:46:05.080 So tell me about Russia.
00:46:08.040 I got heads blowing up that the harder line in the Kremlin has come say, Putin, we love you, but you're dealing with the Americans and they're running dogs for the Europeans.
00:46:20.040 And we don't trust them.
00:46:21.720 We don't trust anybody.
00:46:22.420 We don't want a peace deal.
00:46:23.340 We want to keep bombing Kiev.
00:46:24.640 Your thoughts, sir?
00:46:25.320 I think that this is just negotiating posture.
00:46:29.240 And at the same time that they're doing this, let's remember that Russia, China went to Iran to see if they can get Iran to get some common sense on nuclear.
00:46:36.480 That isn't an accident.
00:46:37.520 That's part of the four or five-dimensional trust that Donald Trump has set in motion.
00:46:41.820 He wants Russia and China to deal with Iran to get a good deal with Russia and China.
00:46:45.960 He wants to get a peace deal there.
00:46:47.740 There is a lot more going on in this negotiation than is visible to the American public or that the legacy media are doing.
00:46:54.580 Legacy media just love to create conflict for Donald Trump and suggest the world's falling.
00:46:58.340 It hasn't fallen for all the time that Donald Trump's been in presidency.
00:47:01.500 There is a very sensitive negotiation.
00:47:03.820 It involves Iran, China, Russia, Ukraine, maybe some European stuff, nuclear disarmament down the road.
00:47:11.700 I think Donald Trump is still in a very strong position.
00:47:14.100 The Russians would not be talking to Iran right now if they were going to tell us to go take a hike on Ukraine.
00:47:19.220 But it's a negotiation.
00:47:20.520 I think Russia would like to get us part of this deal.
00:47:22.780 Let's get Ukraine out of our territory and maybe we'll pull back from some of Ukrainian territory to really show a ceasefire is worth doing.
00:47:29.880 I think we're just seeing negotiating.
00:47:31.600 I don't think there's anything to be panicked about right now.
00:47:34.420 Donald Trump knows the art of the deal and there's a deal still being still to be had here.
00:47:38.020 The Russian Navy with the Chinese Navy, the PLA's Navy, and the Persian Navy all doing exercises in the Gulf of Oman in the North Arabian Sea.
00:47:48.680 And for all those that are with us for non-intervention in any type of war in the Middle East regarding Persia,
00:47:56.100 this is part of this negotiation.
00:47:58.020 It's any sure it could be linked with that.
00:47:59.180 The Russians actually said they will help us get a diplomatic deal with the Persians on these nuclear facilities
00:48:05.380 because we ain't going to go bomb them and we're not going to get in a land war in Persia.
00:48:08.700 It's not going to happen.
00:48:09.260 John Solomon, you're also breaking massive news this morning about classified information, Joe Biden, Barack Obama.
00:48:19.260 Why are we doing this?
00:48:20.220 Are you kicking a cripple, John Solomon?
00:48:22.180 You kind of have a reputation, D.C., of being a bully, of going after guys and just being relentless.
00:48:28.280 Are you reinforcing?
00:48:31.780 Why are you picking on Joe Biden?
00:48:33.120 He doesn't even know where he is, brother.
00:48:34.620 Why are you doing this?
00:48:35.460 That's true.
00:48:36.200 But he did in 2014.
00:48:37.560 Listen, there is something important that the Republican Congress and the Trump administration still needs to do.
00:48:42.960 We need a formal damage assessment to understand how much our national security may have been compromised by Biden's lax handling of classified materials.
00:48:52.880 We haven't gotten it.
00:48:53.660 There's never been an acknowledgment of a even in congressional hearings when asked.
00:48:58.360 There's no evidence that they've done a damage assessment.
00:49:01.140 Think about what we just put into the domain this morning.
00:49:04.520 We sued.
00:49:05.180 It's taken us six years to get these darn documents, but we got them.
00:49:07.940 Joe Biden was having situation room meetings being sent to his insecure iPad on a Gmail account.
00:49:15.320 What does that mean?
00:49:15.980 It means that China was starting to get, if it was listening in or infiltrating any soft communications, it would know how we organize our situation rooms.
00:49:25.000 It would have known what time of day and what discussions were being there.
00:49:29.340 It gives them a leg up to potentially monitor situation room activity for years to come, not just in 2014 when this memo is aired.
00:49:36.820 We have sensitive conversations with Iraqi diplomats, with foreign diplomats.
00:49:43.300 There is a conversation sent to President Biden's insecure iPad and his Gmail account, you know how secure Gmail is, in which they're talking about NSA intercepts in a Latin American country's response to the fact that they found out they were being monitored.
00:50:00.560 That is super sensitive, secret stuff that shouldn't be on a private email.
00:50:05.640 The Republican Congress, under Mike Johnson, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, owed the American people an intelligence assessment to find out how much our enemies gained in access to government because of Joe Biden's sloppiness.
00:50:20.340 Real quickly, John, before I let you go, NBC News is reporting that President Trump has requested of Pete Hexeth over the Defense Department military options about seizing and operating the Panama Canal.
00:50:34.020 You know President Trump pretty well.
00:50:35.560 You know Pete very well.
00:50:36.700 Your thoughts, sir?
00:50:37.340 I think the fact that it leaked tells you it's posturing, that it's part of the negotiating, that maybe we want more from Panama than just the fact that we bought those two ports with a company which, by the way, does lean left historically.
00:50:49.220 So, you know, just because an American company, it's sort of a left-leaning American company, used to be on the DEI and ESG front lines.
00:50:57.220 So I think he's looking for other options to keep pressure on Panama.
00:51:00.580 If it leaks, it means it's meant to come out for the public.
00:51:03.460 If it isn't leaked, it means it's something super secret.
00:51:06.080 I think it's posturing to get a better deal with Panama.
00:51:08.820 Solomon, over the years, you've gained a lot of wisdom, sir.
00:51:16.660 Where do people go for your show, John, and where do they go for Just the News, social media, all of it?
00:51:22.040 Thank you.
00:51:22.660 JusttheNews.com and Jay Solomon Reports is the handle on all social media.
00:51:26.700 And every night I'm lucky enough to follow you right here on Real America's Voice.
00:51:30.120 Just the News, no noise at 6 o'clock.
00:51:31.840 And I just want to point out, I'm starting to dress more like Steve Bannon.
00:51:34.580 That was my wife's suggestion.
00:51:35.580 I lost the time to see you tonight.
00:51:41.780 I love the look.
00:51:42.620 I love the look.
00:51:43.760 John Solomon, God bless you.
00:51:45.220 Good to be with you.
00:51:45.840 You too.
00:51:47.000 Follow us right here, Real America's Voice.
00:51:50.660 What John Solomon's saying, always remember, it's information warfare.
00:51:56.520 When it leaks from the Pentagon that Trump's looking for military options in Panama, he's sending a signal.
00:52:01.880 That's signal, not noise.
00:52:02.960 This is a global negotiation right now.
00:52:06.440 Donald John Trump is trying to bring peace to the world because it's upon the predicate of peace that prosperity will follow.
00:52:13.220 The sunlit uplands are ahead of us in the war room.
00:52:17.500 Leave you with the right stuff.
00:52:20.040 I think Trump's got it, don't you?
00:52:21.780 Short break.
00:52:22.520 Back in the war room in a moment.
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