Episode 4338： ReEstablishing A Constitutional Order; The Lefts Plot To Silence Maga
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In this episode of War Room, we have a special guest on the show today, John Doe. John joins us to talk about his experience in the fight against the Trump administration, and the role of the Supreme Court in protecting the Constitution and the rule of law.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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it's friday 14 march in the year of our lord 2025 uh this afternoon the official surrender of the
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uh senate the democrats in the senate as they uh refuse to try to shut down president trump's
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uh government uh be eight senators think breaking cloture uh remember last night when he was
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getting lit up we started the show in the cold open with uh chris hayes not lighting up but kind
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of saying hey asking schumer how can this happen you know you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna
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break the spirit of our activists the number one reason he had he says hey i'm so afraid that
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trump will shut down the courts and right now that's where we're winning john you joins us uh john
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first off can you just give a little bit of your background before we get into the the meat of this
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can you just give us tell us uh what your experience is in this entire area well the most important
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thing about me is i grew up in philadelphia pennsylvania where i learned to fight but i grew up in philly
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i went to college law school i clerked for justice clarence thomas on the supreme court
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and then i went to teach law at berkeley where i've been for most of this time
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aside from a few years off to work in the justice department where i was on the day of the 9-11 attacks
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and i worked on the counterterrorism response to 9-11 and then i've spent my whole career studying
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their presidency uh and war powers and thinking about what you've mentioned uh the unitary executive
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theory of the presidency so i want to talk about that we we have we've talked about this now for
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a year on the show and try to this we get the activists we're an activist audience the war room
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posse and you know one thing we've talked about is that he's chief executive officer so he gets to
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make these certain decisions which they're fighting in court right now he's the commander-in-chief of the
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armed services the uniformed military but he's also chief magistrate and chief law enforcement
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officer and this has kind of been changed you know this they kind of threw out the constitution
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after watergate one of the reasons i wanted to have you on here in the middle of this fight you
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written a magnificent piece kind of about that uh and if we can get that if we put in the chat rooms
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right now while john's here and put it up walk us through this piece about is this is what is
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happening now with the entire broad assault of president trump's doing on this unitary uh executive
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theory is part of this to to end the sins of the watergate reforms sir uh steve i wish i had put it
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that way i think in the wake of watergate our system overreacted huge democratic majorities in
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congress thought the problem was excessive presidential power and they passed a series
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of statutes to try to pinion down the president like you know gulliver and lilliput and so i think
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what president trump's doing if you look at the broad picture the spending cuts the reductions in force
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the limitations on the regulatory power of the state the reassertion of control over the justice
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department and the fbi what he's doing is he's trying to end those watergate reforms not because
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he's got some you know idiosyncratic view of the presidency of his own that nobody knows about
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what he's trying to do is restore the presidency to the original vision that our founders had
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our founders are the ones as you pointed out who put all the power of enforcing federal law in a single
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person the president the constitution doesn't mention anybody else everyone in the executive branch
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therefore is an assistant to the president in carrying out federal law and therefore as
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alexander hamilton first said back in the first washington administration and his supreme courts
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repeatedly affirmed after that therefore the president sets the law enforcement agenda he must
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be able to remove fire and control all the subordinates in the executive branch so that there is a
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unified approach to enforcing the law what watergate congress has tried to do is they tried to cut the
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links between the president who's the only democratically accountable official in the executive
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branch and all the cabinet agencies these boards they want congress wanted all those agencies to be
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independent they want all those bureaucracies to rule in the name of expertise and technocracy
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and not for the democratically elected president
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i just want to go over this again because we're a huge believer here ideas have consequences and once
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people get the intellectual construct then the news just doesn't seem so random every day you can kind
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of put it in there the framers of the constitution believe that the office of the president and the
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individual in that office would be the besides being the chief executive of the of the government and
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being commander-in-chief of the armed forces the other role would be chief magistrate and chief law
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enforcement officer and that carried all the way up until watergate and in all the reforms of
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watergate we kind of broke that and in the justice department the fbi kind of became you know they were
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hived off in independent agencies is that generally correct yes so they uh watergate didn't fully make
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doj and fbi independent the way they've made say these inspector generals independent or the cfpb
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independent or the and all these alphabet agencies but they tried to make it hard for example to remove
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the fbi director they gave the fbi director fixed term they tried to create this notion that the attorney
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general and the enforcement of the law should somehow be separate from the president and the worst i think
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the worst sin of all the watergate congress created the special counsel law and the special counsel
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actually did create a prosecutor who could not be fired by the president unless he or she committed a
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crime which is extraordinary if you think about it because the core as you said the core power of the
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president is chief executive commander-in-chief and then chief magistrate chief enforcer of the law
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you bring in there also the administrative state so every night on msnbc and every day in the new
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york times and on cnn it's all about trump's a fascist uh trump is uh leading us down to an
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authoritarian you know you're having the authoritarian breakthrough every day they've got a different
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part of how trump is trying to become a strong man etc isn't he doing when you look at it in the
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legal frame as the framers will look at is trying to take on a post-constitutional administrative state
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that is nowhere in the constitution and trying to deconstruct that and take actions like withholding
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money or change or reprogramming money or things like letting people go and last night yesterday in
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san francisco and then in maryland we basically have challenge where the president of the states
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can actually do a reduction in force so it's not him trying to be a fascist it's him actually trying
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to go back to the core documents of the constitution against this administrative state i see it that way
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the people who chose to make the presidency a singular office that concentrates all the power one person
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were the founders they thought that you had to concentrate the power in a single president
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because that would make the president accountable but also give the government the advantages of
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acting with speed decision or dispatch that's the phrase that alexander hamilton used he wanted
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to have energy in the executive which he called the defining character of good government so the
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watergate congresses what they wanted to do actually this is goes starts well beyond watergate
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watergate's almost the culmination of it but it starts with woodrow wilson and fdr
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and lbj what they wanted to do was dilute the presidency they wanted to disperse all that power
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they wanted the executive branch to become unaccountable and then to fill it with a lot
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of congress's powers because the whole idea to them was give the power to experts give the power to
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technocrats this vast administrative state and detach it from any kind of political accountability
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to voters and i would say they succeeded i think that's the world we've been living in for the last
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almost hundred years now ever since the new deal and what trump's fight is on a day-to-day level it's
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this as you said spending here firing people there but the bigger picture is he is trying to restore
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the constitution and the executive branch back to that original founding vision and reject this
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progressive constitution we've had for about the last hundred years so we talk every day here about
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flood the zone and the 10 or 12 things he's doing executive orders executive actions uh other things
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or churchill's action this day that gets back to dispatch and energy and the executive but you can
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see in san francisco at the federal judge in maryland and in in with schumer uh what they're trying to do
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is slow this whole process down i was talking to mike davis in the previous hour this doesn't look like
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it's going to get resolved quickly i don't see this getting into any uh you know emergency docket
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uh expedited docket at any appellate court or emergency docket of the supreme court so are they are these
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radical federal judges kind of winning now and trying to slow down and take out the energy
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absorb the energy of president trump's drive every day to sort this mess out sir
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you know i think the founders would be surprised to see what's going on now that
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people are rushing to court to get federal judges like out here in san francisco where i am or in
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maryland or rhode island and have a single judge stop the entire federal government nationwide
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from basically implementing personnel policies about how the executive branch is to be run
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internally this is not about the individual rights of somebody this is about just how the president
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chooses to run the executive branch and so i think what the founders had thought would be congress would
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be the main bulwark if there was going to be a fight over the president's powers would occur between
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congress and the president going to courts is a sign of political weakness actually it seems to me
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but now i think what's going on is that the trump administration just made an important filing at the
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supreme court to try to end this practice they just made it yesterday to end this practice of district
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judges being able to issue what they call universal or nationwide injunctions that have the effect of
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stopping the entire government nationwide so we might get an answer faster than maybe a few years
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which was what happened in trump's first term with the travel ban we might get an answer in a few weeks
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or a few months and if that practice stops then i think the executive branch can go forward and these
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cases will get litigated part of what president trump is doing i think is setting up test cases
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to challenge some of these watergate era precedents to overturn them and then also have the supreme
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court on his side when he goes to this you know large task of cutting down the administrative state
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and returning us back to the founding constitution
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john last thing i know you gotta bounce but the president's actually and they're all in meltdown
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today president's actually going to leave the white house and go over the justice department and address
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the troops over there you know the the lawyers and the folks and i think some of the fbi i think cash
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is going to be there uh with attorney general pam bondy what would be your recommendation if you were in
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the oval this morning what would be your recommendation the one or two things you think the president should
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hit in his address to the justice department sir well first i think he should chastise them
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for allowing the justice department to be used to interfere in the last elections the idea that
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the justice department prosecuted a former president not only a former president but also
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the leading opposition candidate for the presidency that broke all traditional norms in our country
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and i think is a serious blemish on the justice department and he needs to tell them that was wrong
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i'm sure he will but i think the second and more important point is to go over some of the things we
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talked about in this segment remind them that the president not individual justice department
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attorneys the president is in charge of enforcing law under the constitution and they are there to
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assist him not override him john you what's your social media how can our audience follow you or your
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website sir it's one of the blessings of my life i'm not on social media i don't have twitter or anything
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sorry we will uh we will continue to put your writings up honored to have you on here sir thank
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you so much thank you thanks for having me john john you one of the greats see the fight we got folks
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trump it's not the fascist they say he is every second of every day president trump's trying to go
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back to a constitutional order donald john trump and his team what does scott best and say be the
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easiest thing in the world for president trump just continue to spend this money continue to spend this
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money let the administrative state grow let the wars continue that would be the easy path
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president trump's taking the hard path because the country's in the balance you just had one of the
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smartest legal minds in the country right there john you walk you through the entire thing the sins
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leads from from the progressive movement of wilson all the way through watergate
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he's trying to reverse the entire thing he's trying to clean up the military every different aspect
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that's the chief executive commander in chief of the armed forces chief magistrate and chief law enforcement
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officer of the united states of america trump is basically trying to set things right
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what a struggle as long as you've got his back we're going to continue to win victory after victory
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records um best in saying that the easy path would be just to continue to spend and continue this
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keynesian stimulus it'd be the easy thing for trump right he wouldn't take it and and you saying
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right there that trump is doing something to restore the constitutional order your thoughts sir
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right and just to uh follow on with uh what john who said which i agree with by the way
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most important thing he said was he's from philly i am too i lived on spring garden street and went
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to penn law so i oh my god you know you know hold it hold it there's nothing worse and there's
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nothing worse than an eagles fan maybe a phillies fan but there's nothing worse than an eagles fan
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you guys you've strung a long time so congratulations on both john uh pointed out i mean obviously there's
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a major legal battle going on when i see these cases and there are like 30 of them now it's not
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like two or three i always look at the background of the judge the district court judge they're all
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almost all biden appointees some obama a couple clintons but they're pretty much biden appointees
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and they're forum shopping in rhode island and massachusetts and places like that uh but john's
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right about how i think this is going to end up he talked about the nationwide injunctions which are
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extremely damaging and alito and clarence thomas are all over that but there's another issue we kind
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of touched on which is are independent agencies even constitutional in the sense of being independent
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i mean congress can create them and fund them but the president runs them for all the reasons you and
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john just discussed but this idea that you know jay powell uh his press conference a couple months ago
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said he was asked you know are you aware that trump's going to fire you and powell said he can't fire me
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it's illegal those are his exact words and he's a lawyer by the way he's not an economist uh we may
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find out we may find out that that that kind of so-called independence whether it's a consumer finance
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protection bureau the federal reserve fcc scc keep going whether they can truly be independent of
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uh decisions by the white house so that's that's another thing i'm i'm working on i'm researching
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this um it's an article i'm calling uh lawfare 2.0 lawfare 1.0 kind of came to an end with trump
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versus united states 2024 when the supreme court said the president can't commit a crime cannot be
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liable for a crime with uh in his official duties and by the way speaking of watergate go back to 1979
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when richard nixon was being interviewed by david frost and frost wanted nixon to say yeah i booked the law
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you know something like that and he kind of got around to it but when frost pressed him nixon said
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when the president does it it's not illegal that's an exact quote when the president does it it's not
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illegal he was ridiculed for that you're a dictator they laughed at him as senator nixon was a pretty
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good lawyer he was right that's it took until 2024 for the supreme court to say that but nixon was
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actually right when he said it in in 1979 so there's a lot more uh a lot more to go there uh but
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uh yeah i mean getting back to uh you know the the economic points uh we were discussing the
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besant had even before uh before he was confirmed before he was in the secretary of the treasury
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he had this 333 plan and he said what we need is three percent real uh sorry deficits below three
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percent of gdp three percent real growth and then three million barrels a day of oil that was the
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333 plan you don't you don't hear much about it anymore but it makes perfect sense and here's why
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if deficits are three percent of gdp and deficit is a nominal thing meaning it's a number it's not
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adjusted for inflation it's just a number real growth is three but we have two percent inflation so
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what that means is nominal growth is five you know three if you have two percent inflation three plus
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two is five right so if if the deficit's uh below three percent of gdp but nominal gdp is growing five
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it's three plus two what does that mean it means that the gdp is growing faster than the debt and
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the debt to gdp ratio is going down the notion that you've got to pay off the national debt that hasn't
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happened since andrew jackson 1836 you don't have to pay it off you do have to roll it over and you do
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have to be able to afford it in terms of the interest rate and then you got to worry about the dollar
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also so the question is what makes it sustainable well the answer is the world's looking at a hundred
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and uh about 125 percent debt to gdp ratio right now i'd be a little bit higher than that but it's
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about 125 if it just starts going down and that's what the best in plan would do 120 115 the whole
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hang on hang on hang on i want to make sure people understand the math here your reason is the
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denominator you're going to you're going to grow at three three and a half percent and so you're going
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to grow the economy so therefore your gdp will be higher in the debt because we're never going to
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pay off a penny the face amount of the debt we're barely going to struggle to pay the interest you're
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right folks understand this this is where and this gets to also the theory uh you know ray dalio said
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hey we're about seven percent of of uh deficit to gdp we got to get down to three uh scott says at six
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and a half we got to get to three and a half because you got to get these deficits under a trillion
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dollars so so because that keeps building the face amount of the debt to 37 and 38 and 39 and 40
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and right now uh jim you would agree there's nothing there's and this is why i think howard
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london's got to stop talking loosely and elon about the trillion dollars we're going to find from
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waste front abuse it's just not going to happen hey if you get a couple hundred billion dollars
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trust me that is like water to somebody in the desert right now we need that because you're going
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to have to have the programmatic cuts and that's what's right you know we we agreed to the cr
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it looks like the democrats are going to fold so we'll get to this this summer but but if that
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doesn't happen the 125 let people know 125 is uh i think robini wrote that book this time it's
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completely different no countries ever come back am i correct jim records at that percentage of total
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face amount of debt to gdp at 125 you're essentially on on the glide slope indicator to your financial
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destruction sir correct we're at the same lunch table as lebanon greece and uh you know a couple
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other countries that's that's that's where we are uh but there's i uh by the way i've had a lot of
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head-on-head debates with robini here's here's what he may be missing there he's generally right that
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it never ends well uh but the question is how does it end the usual way is default uh but the reason for
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that is countries have a local currency but they borrow in dollars if you're uh if your debt is in a
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currency that you don't print you can't pay it off that's argentina you can set your watch by it every
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10 years they default there the other one is hyperinflation which is yeah i owe uh you know
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a hundred you know 36 trillion or whatever but uh here's you know good luck buying a loaf of bread
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it's not worth anything so that's why mar and national china and a few other cases what's different
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about the united states is we our debt is in a currency we can print we can actually print those
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dollars so as i disagree with dalio i know this there's no reason for the u.s ever to default
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because we can actually print the money the question is what are the consequences of that
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and obviously they're all bad but but bestin has pointed the way out and you said three percent growth
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you're right but that's that's three percent real growth but you have to tack on two points of
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inflation or maybe three so you're going to get five or six percent nominal growth real growth
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matters that's how we get jobs and that's not going to happen that's not going to happen
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that's not going to happen that's what i keep telling them i said hey this is why you're going
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to have to you're going to have some tax increases the man do you honestly think as you see it right
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now because if you take the federal spending out we've been in negative growth am i wrong if you take
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out the massive federal spending the last couple years as keynesian shock haven't we been kind of
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negative real growth the last couple years the it ain't growing dude if you and i saw this business
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model you charge them you would charge them so much that you would charge them so much to finance
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this because it's not financeable right now unless you've got a printing machine that just keeps
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printing and the rest of the world's gonna suck on you know if the purchasing power of the dollar
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goes down 20 percent like under buying hey goes down 20 you guys got to suck on it that's the
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whole bricks nation saying well yo maybe we don't have to suck we don't have a solution now
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and maybe we don't have a solution in five years but we're going to come up with a solution because
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we're just not going to take you guys essentially screwing us every day i mean isn't that the isn't
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that the theory of the case here well you're exactly right steve that's the model but you have to be
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like captain kirk change the model in other words um the key the key statistic is debt to gdp
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you throw it 36 trillion 125 those are all big numbers they're scary numbers they they don't matter
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what matters is debt to gdp because debt is what you owe gdp is how you pay it back or how you roll
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it over so that's the key metric now there's a there's a crit what physicists call critical
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threshold 90 percent debt to gdp that's where the keynesian multiplier goes negative so below below 90
00:25:11.920
you borrow a dollar you spend a dollar you get a dollar 25 of gdp or you get a dollar 10 or whatever
00:25:18.080
but it keeps going down 90 is where you borrow a dollar you spend a dollar and you get 90 cents you
00:25:23.900
don't even get your dollar back in terms of gdp we're well past that the only reason the economy
00:25:28.520
was chugging along at all under biden was because the deficits were so large you get some growth out
00:25:34.360
of it but you don't get as much as you're borrowing and therefore the debt to gdp ratio goes up
00:25:39.460
so that's the thing you have to wrestle to the ground you got to get the debt to gdp ratio
00:25:43.940
to go down now the debt's not going down at all but gdp the simple question steve can gdp grow
00:25:51.920
faster than the debt that's the only issue and if it does that ratio is going down and you're getting
00:25:57.300
healthier uh that's what best is trying to do you've got a chance you get it you're getting the
00:26:00.960
patient the pay the patient's getting healthier that's why i keep saying this is a supply side cut
00:26:05.260
this is our last shot to do it it's that part of the formula right there hey jim where do people say
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okay um president's going to sign executive orders at one he's going to go to the justice department and
00:30:37.900
you just heard john you sketch out for him what he should say and that was kind of a throwdown
00:30:42.740
um he's going to go justice at three uh we're going to be background with john lechner with the
00:30:49.140
new book um that you guys love so much about so much of the uh death is our business about the
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russian mercenaries he's going to be on day talk about putin uh natalie's going to be from the
00:30:58.300
white house ed dowd's going to be here to talk about a econometric model he's put together 2025
00:31:03.640
we're going to be slammed from five to seven much much more uh schumer just went to the floor of the
00:31:09.420
senate and gave more rationale because he's getting lit right now on his decision to surrender um
00:31:16.040
and uh but cash patel most importantly oh by the way uh tulsi's just announced put a press release
00:31:22.080
she's going to formal inquiry and a potential prosecution on that there it is right there on
00:31:29.200
that remember the perverted we had colonel john mills which we'll try to get mills on today
00:31:33.460
uh that perverted chat room they had over at the intelligence community over at uh dni including
00:31:39.960
people from nsa cia others the pervert channel investigation potential uh prosecutions
00:31:46.920
so much more today another day of full action days of thunder are with us cash patel
00:31:53.680
one of our former co-hosts here now director of the fbi put out uh i think of everything cash has put
00:32:01.100
as fbi directed this is the most serious he put a lot of smart tough stuff out i want to address the
00:32:06.820
alarming rise in swatting incidents targeting media figures the fbi is aware of this dangerous trend and
00:32:11.840
my team and i are already taking action to investigate and hold those responsible
00:32:16.360
accountable this isn't about politics weaponizing law enforcement against any american is not only
00:32:22.820
morally rehensible but also in dangerous lives including those of our officers this that will not be
00:32:29.580
tolerated we are fully committed to working with local law enforcement to crack down on these crimes more
00:32:35.580
updates to come i want to bring on now one of the uh one of the um toughest hombres in our
00:32:43.520
maga movement and one of the best voices out there joe paggs uh joe you have been uh swatted talk to me
00:32:50.020
about what went on this is incredibly dangerous cash is on this i know if we're talking people behind the
00:32:54.660
scenes they are all over this because this puts two people in jeopardy two groups in jeopardy number one
00:33:00.180
you and your family who they basically want cops to assassinate and and also the cops so walk us
00:33:06.700
through what happened to you joe paggs about 2 30 in the morning uh two nights ago steve and made
00:33:11.780
great job that you do here in the war room i love being on today uh i'm sitting in my office i don't
00:33:16.320
go to bed till 5 or 5 30 which is lucky because this happened about 2 30 2 35 and i've got one of
00:33:21.180
those cameras out the front door that'll give you an indication if somebody's there and i thought there
00:33:25.400
was a bug on the camera that'll happen every once in a while maybe the dogs had to go out my wife woke up
00:33:28.840
in the middle of the night whatever and uh that wasn't it i i went to the camera and it shows you
00:33:33.820
the video that just happened and there's a dude with it with a cap on i can't tell if it's a cop
00:33:38.460
or not because now it's night vision it's very dark out during the day it's a color camera but at night
00:33:42.360
it's night vision and there's a guy with with a long gun he's got a rifle ar-15 type something like
00:33:47.700
that i've got one it looks like an ar-15 and i'm like there's a dude at my front door with an ar-15 he's
00:33:52.380
got a cap on he looks nervous as hell steve he's he's he's looking around you know what's going on
00:33:57.160
so i had to think to myself in about about a second what do i do do i grab my ar go out
00:34:02.500
then i'd be dead in my doorway do i grab my my my pistol conceal it walk out yell who are you
00:34:07.720
do i call 9-1-1 which i ended up doing i called 9-1-1 got the county sheriff i said i need to know
00:34:12.900
there's my address this is who i am um is there somebody at my house right now she said yes sir
00:34:18.160
there is there's this we got a call two dogs were shot dead family is hiding in the basement i said
00:34:23.220
we're in texas we're in basements here so listen here's who i am you probably know who i yes yes
00:34:27.900
sir we do public figure this is probably a swatting tell the guy to put the gun down not down like take
00:34:32.980
it off and just point the muzzle down i'll come out with my hands up let's clear this up right now
00:34:37.380
there is no distress no peril at my house this is some bad guy hoping that i'll be killed by you guys
00:34:43.760
this is this is as you said steve assassination by cop if they can do it and it was scared listen i i've
00:34:49.280
i've got adrenaline in what we do every day but i've never had adrenaline like this that i felt
00:34:53.460
that night and and thank god these are good guys and gals the police in this area are amazing and
00:34:58.200
where i live in texas and we were able to diffuse it pretty quickly but steve i walked out and when i
00:35:02.420
walked out of my studio well my production studio there was in my backyard i can see a bunch of
00:35:06.520
flashlights it ended up seven county sheriffs or sheriff's deputies were at my house surrounding
00:35:12.180
the house had i done something differently we probably wouldn't be talking today
00:35:16.280
no this is the point this and i talked to mtg we've been swatted a bunch of times in in dc in
00:35:23.320
our headquarters i talked to mtg she had you know she had the long gun right by her bed she picked it
00:35:28.380
up and first to walk to the door if she had gone to the door she'd have been dead if you had gone
00:35:33.840
outside you know and and they'd seen your weapon at all you were a dead man that's what they want
00:35:38.900
this is not fooling around they want the police to shoot you and to assassinate you sir
00:35:43.960
is that pretty clear without any doubt what you just said is true this wasn't to scare me
00:35:50.080
this wasn't to to say hey stop talking about about zelinski the way that you do hey you know stop
00:35:55.260
taking the right side or supporting you know trump this was we want the guy dead we'd like to kill him
00:36:00.920
and here it's twofold for them the bad guys steve think about it if i'm dead in my doorway they get
00:36:05.460
my voice off the air they get my face off the tv and they had the bad guy's the cop who killed me
00:36:10.620
so i mean this is twofold for them they can look at let's see we should we get rid of the police
00:36:15.440
reform the entire play they can't believe they killed this innocent guy at his house
00:36:18.960
and look quietly we got his voice out of here this this was this is not this is not child's play this
00:36:25.040
is some kid calling it a bomb scare at high school trying to get a day off of school no this is somebody
00:36:29.760
wanting to take out media people that they don't agree with this this is i mean this is well we got
00:36:36.820
swatted a couple of years ago and there was kind of random this is a well thought through they're
00:36:41.600
trying to go after the that they're going after the toughest hombres the guys who are unrelenting and
00:36:46.840
what they hope because you see the type they're going after that you take a couple of guys out
00:36:52.360
before you're assassinated right and then they have a huge brouhaha that law enforcement and then
00:36:57.080
your voice is off a couple of police officers are killed and uh and you're assassinated it's a it's a
00:37:03.640
it's a win-win-win for this and this is why until cash got there because i know we've had to deal
00:37:08.580
with this system before it's never been seriously investigated or prosecuted and that's what i'm
00:37:14.620
hoping now with cash what would be your recommendation one to your other media figures out there number two
00:37:21.360
to uh to the police officers in these different regions and then to cash patel what would be your
00:37:26.340
guidance well i hit cash immediately he's a friend just like he is of yours and uh and and i'm glad he put
00:37:31.740
something out today said cash this just happened please and he just wrote me back one word he said
00:37:36.180
copy like i got it and then today he put out the he put out that notification uh the advice i would
00:37:41.040
give is i live in a pretty big area of texas i live in the san antonio area just north of and the county
00:37:46.500
sheriff was up on what swatting was but the people under him weren't necessarily i i've now educated all
00:37:52.980
the dispatchers give it to my cell phone number this is who i am if you get a call to my house you call
00:37:57.200
me first let's defuse this right away if you're in the media and you see something like this go down
00:38:01.900
hey if you don't have a camera outside your house get one and get several because steve they would
00:38:06.200
have broken in the door had i not had the camera and had it not called them immediately i would
00:38:09.440
have had people coming in from the back side and from the front side and you're right there would
00:38:13.120
have been a shootout and it would have it would have unfolded like you said so my advice is to get
00:38:17.040
with your local police whether it's a a police department talk to the chief talk to the captain talk to
00:38:21.740
somebody if it's the sheriff's department get the actual sheriff if you can if not get somebody who's in
00:38:26.460
charge somebody who can make decisions and make sure they understand this is going on i'm one of
00:38:31.560
what is it now 9 10 12 15 i know i was one of the first two or three that they did this to but this
00:38:37.160
is without a doubt like you said a coordinated effort to take people like me out and we have to
00:38:41.320
be working in conjunction with law enforcement make them aware because the dispatchers weren't aware
00:38:45.440
when i said i think i'm being swatted she said i don't know what you mean so i had to explain what it
00:38:49.500
was and i think that they're now abreast of it there's a mechanism in place that they try it with me
00:38:53.480
again but that would be the advice but they want us to turn against each other and they want voices
00:38:58.520
like yours and mine shut down it's not going to work oh and they also hope you kind of moderate no
00:39:04.760
it ain't going to happen you got pags this guy's a tough hombre uh pags where do people get your
00:39:09.600
show where they go to get you on social media brother yeah joepaggs.com it's either joe talk show
00:39:15.480
on all the social media and i'm verified or it's joe pags j-o-e-p-a-g-s and we're live
00:39:20.480
six to nine p.m monday through friday steve one of the original gangsters an og joe pags thank you
00:39:27.180
for joining us and uh go with go with god man tough guy right there another one of the most
00:39:33.500
prominent voices uh sean farish sean's joining us by phone i'll play later the clip i think he and
00:39:40.340
his wife put up sean they have the clip let's play the clip
00:39:45.240
hey guys it's sean my wife brennan and i just wanted to give you guys an update we did just
00:39:54.340
get swatted uh here in tennessee uh the officer said they received a phone call that uh that
00:40:02.260
somebody murdered somebody in the house and was planning a suicide by cop so i received the call
00:40:08.900
with that information we cooperated with police they were very nice they were actually very nice
00:40:13.420
very very nice they were not aware that this was going on across the country um was that you know
00:40:18.300
what how did you feel about that what was what was going through your head when you saw officers
00:40:21.980
in the backyard with uh with guns i was shaking i was terrified i was the only one awake he was
00:40:26.740
asleep yeah and they were just pointing their guns into the house and it i i i was very scared
00:40:34.980
that's it and that's the point and that's what these people are trying to do uh they are trying
00:40:39.600
to silence folks who are not afraid to speak their mind online and uh you've seen it happen to so many
00:40:45.320
other people across the country we are going to do what we can from tennessee to try and get to the
00:40:49.780
bottom of who's responsible for it uh i'd like to see um the justice department cash patel that's sean
00:40:56.460
and then we'll play i'll put that up online sean is uh sean farish joins us now by phone sean
00:41:01.660
a cash patel just put out a a tweet from the fbi say he's all over this many people have talked to
00:41:08.900
him behind the scenes he says he's got a team on this they're talking to law enforcement they're
00:41:13.120
going to get to the bottom of investigating this uh we got you by phone i'm holding you to the break
00:41:17.740
so tell us what happened what what exactly happened to you and your wife well steve first thanks you
00:41:23.060
thank you so much for uh allowing me to tell the story here and raise awareness about this because it
00:41:27.620
could have been a lot worse and you know it could have been as bad as we've seen with some of the
00:41:31.620
j6ers who were ripped from their homes thankfully that's not what happened um i'd fallen asleep i
00:41:37.340
was on the couch we had a long day yesterday my wife woke me up and told me that there were cops
00:41:41.060
in our yard with guns uh i knew that this was going on to other prominent voices in the movement
00:41:46.300
um i saw it all over the internet so i sat straight up and i said to her okay we're being swatted and she
00:41:51.980
didn't know what that meant um you know or she thought worst case scenario you know we were going to
00:41:56.200
have our house raided um but you know we said let's sit down and let's wait for instruction so
00:42:02.020
the cops positioned themselves outside uh and then i got a phone call from the deputies outside the home
00:42:07.740
and they told me what they received you know the call that they received that two people were shot in
00:42:13.520
the house and that uh uh that i was planning on committing suicide by cop and um that if they came
00:42:21.080
into the home i said that's not true it's my myself my wife we have three cats we rescued um and we
00:42:27.400
walked out we complied with their orders everything was was very calm uh the officers that were here
00:42:33.420
handled it very nicely they were professional they were kind um but they did not know that this was a
00:42:38.640
national trend that was emerging and i made them aware of that uh just before we came on here uh they
00:42:44.980
called and wanted some additional information i'm going to be reaching back out to them shortly
00:42:48.580
but about five minutes before we connected here another mysterious uh domino's order pizza order
00:42:54.600
showed up at the house that i didn't order so uh whoever is doing it is also apparently ordering food
00:43:00.800
um they got the order wrong so you know i sent it back but uh no it's whoever's at it is still at it
00:43:07.840
and we want them to be brought to justice and we want people to stay safe sean hang over a second
00:43:13.640
we're gonna take a a a short commercial break and sean i will tell you those pizza orders are
00:43:20.500
dangerous you don't know when what they're going to show up with or who's going to show up or how
00:43:25.100
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00:43:29.780
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sean is there any doubt in your mind that whoever did this and cash is committed to get to the bottom
00:45:04.080
of it wanted to uh essentially have you and your wife assassinated by cop sir there's uh that that's
00:45:12.560
something that we've been thinking about that they were hoping somebody made a mistake and that was the
00:45:16.980
uh that that was the outcome yeah i would say that's definitely been something we've been talking
00:45:22.460
i mean you're a comedian or at least your your your impersonation of the president is bar none the best
00:45:30.320
but you also in that have so much powerful someone has so much powerful social commentary in it
00:45:36.820
does it shock you that the radicals on the left want to basically have assassinated
00:45:44.540
a husband and wife of a guy that is a comedian but does it with social commentary does that strike you as
00:45:51.260
no that strikes me as uh par for the course with this group unfortunately i mean we've had
00:45:57.140
a long history with them when i lived in new york i actually joined your show years ago for
00:46:01.600
from the best page usps we yelled the protest for jesse morgan um and we took plenty of heat
00:46:07.920
back then when we were activists in new york um that was before i'd met my wife but um we uh we wound
00:46:15.080
up you know rolling with the punches then and we're going to roll with them now i mean if they think that
00:46:20.140
that they reach somebody who's going to be uh they think that they reach somebody who's going to stay
00:46:24.400
silent they came to the wrong house it's the period is the end of the story there so um they're not
00:46:29.100
going to win we will they're not going to win their tactics are cheap uh and intimidation is not
00:46:35.620
going to work on us i'm a new yorker i think we don't we don't back down so you're not going to
00:46:41.480
you're not going to back down you're not going to ease up you're not going to take your foot off the
00:46:44.980
the the gas because you're you come on you come on you're you come on kind of strong sometime you're
00:46:49.760
not going to back off on this no there's not a chance no um you know like i said i grew up in new
00:46:54.800
york my mom's from brooklyn she's italian we have it in our blood to just be someone tells me not to
00:46:59.740
do something and i'm going to do it twice as loud um so now i live in tennessee uh and again the the
00:47:05.980
whole idea is that someone tells me not to do something i'm going to do it twice as loud and
00:47:09.440
and they're going to regret it well you know they're still coming after you with these domino
00:47:15.060
there'll be other stuff like that so you you realize that you're not off the hook yet
00:47:18.920
oh yeah i mean if they're uh if they're gonna keep doing that you know my wife said there's a
00:47:25.400
car in the driveway i said is it a cop car she said no it's a white car and she's the guy come
00:47:29.640
out the domino's guy so you know i'm expecting it to continue for a while um we know how to handle it
00:47:37.500
we'll have a good relationship with the sheriffs that's our silver lining
00:47:39.880
shot what is your social media how can people find out more about you the the one the few that don't
00:47:47.520
know and and where do they go to to find out get more of your content so uh we stream mondays
00:47:53.880
through fridays on rumble it's rumble.com slash uh lfa tv my social media my x is um at s-h-a-w-n
00:48:01.940
underscore f-a-r-a-s-h we post links there we have a lot of fun there and uh we appreciate everybody's
00:48:08.580
support everybody who checked in and steve thank you so much for allowing me the time to uh to tell the
00:48:12.860
story no it's uh when i saw i saw the video we'll play that this afternoon on this afternoon
00:48:18.920
show it's uh and your wife is great with a uh too tough hombres and that's what we need what they're
00:48:24.780
trying to do is intimidate this movement they know we're winning right now they're trying to take out
00:48:29.140
the media part of this uh the uh the folks at the tip of the spear and uh what i'm telling them they
00:48:34.740
can't intimidate these folks can't intimidate guys like you and joe peggs sean honored to have you
00:48:39.280
on here fight on sir thank you so much you too thank you let's everybody pile into his social
00:48:46.400
media let's get his show let's do it all social show some support on this this is very i can tell
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you in the uh we had a couple of swattings back to back in dc a couple of years ago and they were
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very very very dangerous they want assassination by cop they also want you to take out a couple of
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cops so it's dangerous for the law enforcement that's what cash is saying and it's dangerous for
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uh obviously dangerous for the individual and you can see they're going after kind of the tip of the
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spear they're going to come after you too they are not going to give up control of this country
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you see this right now you see you see with president trump look what john you and mike davis
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is sitting right there telling you go back to the constitutional order people have talked about
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this for decades you've heard about this we got to go back to the constitution we have to
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get rid of the department of education we have to you know make get the justice department to
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actually report to the office of the president you've heard this talk and talk and talk trump is
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action action action action this day a sense of urgency what did the great john you say that hamilton
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one of the the greatest of the founders revolutionary generation and uh and and founders
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just didn't fight the war but actually create both destroyed the british empire's hold on us and then
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was there to create something new that the that the executive should move with dispatch in energy
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is that trump on dispatch in energy and look how they're trying to look how they're trying to
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stop him every way and the people that promulgate that because it's information warfare
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you know that we know that and what they try to do they're trying to take out that that that group of
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head i can't it can't make out this alex jones his producer there's something just out there
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and of course alex was on with with general flynn and he said hey they got information
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and mike flint's as dialed in as you can get and alex ain't too shabby that there's hits out on like
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uh there there's a hit out on alex right and what did joe pag say right there he says hey i'm on
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zelinski every day and and alex jones i'm just repeating what alex was saying he's saying hey because
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