Bannon's War Room - March 18, 2025


Episode 4345： Preparing For A Fight Over Legal Mass Deportations


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

159.62494

Word Count

8,983

Sentence Count

598

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Trump administration may not be allowed to deport illegal immigrants brought into the United States by the Mexican-American workers in the country illegally. The administration argues that the Supreme Court should not have the power to rule on this matter because it's a war crime.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 We'll just start by saying that, you know, you and I have talked about a lot of big issues over the years.
00:00:05.660 I think right now this is one of the biggest that we've ever discussed, and for two reasons.
00:00:11.820 One is the use of this wartime authority is so unprecedented and so dangerous during peacetime
00:00:19.760 that we all need to be concerned, because right now it's Venezuelans who are being tagged with it
00:00:25.140 and sent off to a Salvadoran prison without any due process whatsoever.
00:00:29.060 But if the courts allow this, it could be one group after another that's just whisked away
00:00:36.040 and put in a Salvadoran prison with no access to anybody.
00:00:39.820 And, you know, these Venezuelan men who have been sentenced to El Salvador, as the video already suggests, are in real danger.
00:00:46.840 But the second reason this is so big is what you also talked about is beyond just the Alien Enemies Act,
00:00:53.540 the Trump administration seems to be basically saying the federal courts should stay out of their business.
00:00:59.840 But, of course, our entire country is premised on the idea that we have three equal branches of government
00:01:05.860 and both Congress and the president will listen to the federal courts.
00:01:10.600 We were very concerned that the administration just simply ignored, violated the court's order to turn their planes around.
00:01:19.280 And so we told the judge we were concerned about it, given all the facts.
00:01:22.860 He said, let's get in here for a hearing.
00:01:25.540 We left that hearing even more concerned than we were initially.
00:01:29.460 I mean, the administration tried to first say, well, we didn't think you meant this and that,
00:01:33.560 but obviously they clearly understood what the order meant.
00:01:37.200 They're basically just saying, don't interfere with us.
00:01:39.900 And they even went as far as going to the D.C. Circuit a few hours before the hearing to try and get the judge thrown off the case.
00:01:46.900 I mean, this is really extraordinary.
00:01:48.700 And what I said in the hearing was I wanted to be very careful with my words,
00:01:53.260 but I felt like although a lot of people throw around the term constitutional crisis,
00:01:57.580 we were moving in that direction if the administration is really not going to allow federal courts to do their job.
00:02:04.720 David, President Trump campaigned on mass deportations.
00:02:08.340 It was one of his most popular campaign promises.
00:02:12.160 Does that make this the perfect test case for him politically to try to expand his powers
00:02:18.080 by saying he's doing what he campaigned on doing?
00:02:22.880 Yeah, I think it does.
00:02:24.140 And I think it's why the administration is happy to have this fight.
00:02:29.500 Look, polling has shown that where the president has trouble economically because of the tariffs
00:02:36.380 and his approval ratings on that issue are suffering.
00:02:40.260 Voters, by and large, are very happy with how he's handled illegal immigration.
00:02:43.840 And there was a sense from voters, and I talked to a lot of voters over the past couple of years,
00:02:47.980 that felt like during the Biden administration that the U.S. government was at the sort of the mercy of whether
00:02:55.320 an illegal immigrant would game asylum laws or come across the border illegally
00:02:59.440 and that there wasn't much we could do about it.
00:03:01.580 And what the president is saying is I'm going to do whatever it takes.
00:03:05.400 And there's an appeal to that.
00:03:07.420 And until the American people, if voters ever feel a negative impact from his challenging of the courts,
00:03:14.940 which they're used to that, this is not the first time he's done that rhetorically,
00:03:19.520 then I think they're going to give him latitude, right?
00:03:23.420 We're talking politically here.
00:03:24.660 Obviously, there are all sorts of ways in which this can go south and impact other issues beyond illegal immigration.
00:03:32.640 But this is something they wanted him to do, not necessarily challenge the courts in the way he did,
00:03:39.540 but clean up illegal immigration.
00:03:41.560 And they're going to give him room to do that here.
00:03:44.380 If the courts cannot contain this administration, what can?
00:03:48.180 You know, I thought it was fascinating today that Senator Cotton of Arkansas spoke out and called this judge out,
00:03:55.180 like, who is this judge to tell the president what to do?
00:03:58.180 And it was very reminiscent of the 1957 showdown in the Central High School in Arkansas,
00:04:04.800 where the governor of Arkansas called out the National Guard to stop the integration
00:04:10.020 in compliance with Brown v. Board of Education.
00:04:14.760 So what happened?
00:04:15.480 And Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to enforce the law.
00:04:21.620 And then he federalized the National Guard.
00:04:25.360 And it's just how much of this is we've been here before.
00:04:30.600 But the difference now is it's not a governor of Arkansas.
00:04:34.020 It's the president of the United States.
00:04:35.720 And he's backed up almost unanimously by a party that has begun to look at the rule of law like a cafeteria.
00:04:42.860 You can take this.
00:04:43.940 You can take that.
00:04:44.660 You can, you know, maybe have a little of this, whatever you like.
00:04:48.080 And when that happens, you don't have rule of law.
00:04:50.640 The Israelis eventually got fed up and decided late last night, overnight at about 2 a.m.
00:04:55.660 local time here to renew their assault on the Gaza Strip.
00:04:59.920 Now, we haven't heard we heard that Hamas said that this is a violation of the peace of the treaty from late January.
00:05:07.080 But this is something that is probably going to get worse and worse.
00:05:11.260 You know, we're going to continue to see attacks by the Israelis.
00:05:13.580 As you said, we've been hearing extremely bellicose language, including from the minister of defense, Israel Katz,
00:05:19.000 saying that, you know, they're going to rain hell on Hamas.
00:05:23.500 And, you know, this really just goes to show there's a big change here.
00:05:27.360 We've seen the Israelis cutting off aid several weeks ago to the Gaza Strip, which saw a huge spike in prices for food in the Gaza Strip,
00:05:35.260 which was already suffering from famine-like conditions before that treaty in late January.
00:05:39.520 Then we saw them cutting off electricity, which all but shut down a desalination plant that so many Palestinians in the Gaza Strip had relied on for fresh water,
00:05:47.740 leading a lot of them to resort to drinking brackish water.
00:05:51.240 And the United Nations warned that nine out of ten people in Gaza didn't have access to safe, clean water.
00:05:57.400 Well, now the situation is about to get much, much worse.
00:06:00.480 We haven't heard much about ground operations yet, but we can expect to hear a lot more.
00:06:05.860 The Israelis have said that they're specifically targeting mid-level Hamas commanders.
00:06:10.460 So it looks as though they are, they had some time to think about who to strike, you know, hone their targets.
00:06:16.640 And we had heard this last week from several media sources saying that they have a kill list,
00:06:21.660 that they've expanded, the Israelis, and they know exactly who they're going after.
00:06:25.600 So it looks as though, according to Israeli and foreign media, that they are,
00:06:30.540 they had a plan for the past several weeks about how to reenter this fight.
00:06:34.300 And it looks like we're seeing that plan being activated in the Gaza Strip.
00:06:37.620 The Heritage Foundation, which is behind Project 2025,
00:06:40.840 how direct is the link between the Heritage Foundation and the Oval Office?
00:06:44.640 It seems like Heritage is living their best life with this administration.
00:06:49.700 Well, look, Heritage has transformed from a conservative think tank
00:06:53.440 into an extension of the Trump administration and the Trump campaign, the Trump political operation.
00:06:58.060 So none of that is surprising.
00:06:59.440 But I just think this whole issue is a distraction, right?
00:07:01.620 I mean, there are some real issues that really matter,
00:07:05.300 whether it's how the president is handling illegal immigration,
00:07:08.480 whether or not he's defying the courts or testing the courts,
00:07:12.120 his economic policy, which is obviously disrupting many sectors of the economy.
00:07:19.460 These are the sorts of things he likes to do to send people off chasing squirrels.
00:07:23.820 And I just don't think it's that big of a deal at the end of the day
00:07:27.340 compared to focusing on things that really matter.
00:07:30.380 Real quick, on a 1 to 10, what's your level of worry?
00:07:35.060 11.
00:07:35.500 11.
00:07:38.700 11, America.
00:07:42.600 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:47.480 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:52.700 I got a free shot.
00:07:53.980 All these networks lying about the people.
00:07:56.980 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:58.880 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:08:00.320 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:08:02.080 but you're not going to stop it.
00:08:03.000 It's going to happen.
00:08:04.060 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:08:07.680 MAGA Media.
00:08:08.580 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:08:14.480 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:08:18.220 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:24.520 War Room.
00:08:25.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:08:34.060 It's Tuesday, 18 March, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:08:37.380 You're in the War Room.
00:08:38.780 Let's go immediately.
00:08:39.660 We are packed the morning and the afternoon, whether it's talking war and peace with Putin
00:08:46.820 today and President Trump, or releasing the Kennedy files, or taking on these radical justices
00:08:53.240 or judges or trying to shut down President Trump from implementing his executive orders and things
00:09:00.920 he's doing as commander chief or chief executive officer of the U.S. government, or as chief
00:09:05.680 magistrate.
00:09:06.260 Let's go to Brian Glenn live at the White House.
00:09:08.440 Brian, another packed day.
00:09:11.100 Right now, I believe the president should be on some sort of telecommunications connection
00:09:16.880 with Vladimir Putin, talking about the Russian rapprochement and peace in Ukraine, sir?
00:09:24.580 Yes, sir.
00:09:25.260 Good morning, Steve.
00:09:26.120 From what I understand, that phone call was to take place between 9 a.m. and 11 a.m.
00:09:30.360 Eastern time, local time here.
00:09:31.980 It's now top of the hour, so I'm assuming right now that President Trump is on the line
00:09:37.400 talking with Putin, and we'll see how, what comes out of that.
00:09:44.060 I mean, this is something that obviously he has campaigned on for quite a long time, getting
00:09:49.340 peace between these two countries, and today is the day, and like you said, in the cold
00:09:53.980 open, which is hard to even listen to, by the way, the pushback that we were seeing from
00:09:58.960 the left and from the, it's so difficult to listen to, but yeah, big day here.
00:10:04.140 That's what we do it.
00:10:07.080 We make the war impossible, get their cup of war path in, their heads blow up, and the
00:10:11.400 cold open.
00:10:11.900 Okay, President Trump's schedule, signing executive orders tentatively at 3 o'clock, Brian, I'm
00:10:17.220 sure you'll be around, hanging around the room, but the Kennedy, 80,000 pages, President
00:10:22.600 Trump yesterday basically implied he doesn't want Tulsi Gabbard, head of D&I, to redact
00:10:28.300 anything.
00:10:29.660 The Kennedy files, timing, executive orders, timing, what do we got?
00:10:34.140 Yeah, well, the timing for the executive orders are at 3 o'clock, and I don't have any details
00:10:40.500 on what that executive order or orders will be at 3 o'clock.
00:10:44.620 I'll keep my ear to the ground on that.
00:10:46.420 In terms of the releasing of the files, all we heard was it would be this afternoon.
00:10:51.500 Now, would it be during the 3 o'clock?
00:10:53.340 Is that an announcement that he makes?
00:10:54.660 But those files, those 80,000-plus pages will be available at archive.gov for money to understand.
00:11:02.880 And, of course, it's all going to be there to see.
00:11:05.260 But as you know, people, even if you release everything, just it's human nature to second-guess
00:11:10.780 things and go down their own conspiracies that you might have one.
00:11:13.980 But, nevertheless, those pages will be available to the public later this afternoon, as soon
00:11:19.080 as I get the exact time.
00:11:20.200 I know.
00:11:20.860 I wish we had them right now.
00:11:22.400 I wish we had them right now.
00:11:23.780 MAGA just wants the receipts.
00:11:28.360 All MAGA wants is the receipts.
00:11:30.120 You know they're going to be happy.
00:11:31.600 Come on, man.
00:11:32.160 This is a crowd.
00:11:34.340 MAGA is easy, please.
00:11:35.820 Okay, Julie Kelly is actually following the filing that's going to take place, I think,
00:11:42.800 by 11 a.m. from the White House.
00:11:44.480 Of all the different parts of the legal battle, which is really where it's most intense, this
00:11:49.840 judge in Washington, D.C., about us sending terrorists, criminal terrorists, out of the
00:11:57.280 country challenging President Trump as Commander-in-Chief.
00:12:00.960 Mike Davis, Josh Hammer are going to join us here shortly.
00:12:04.820 But the White House strategy on this, is Stephen Miller's, who kind of, I think, laid a trap
00:12:10.960 for this judge by the timing of this, are they hunkered down for a fight, Brian Glenn?
00:12:17.260 I think they are.
00:12:18.520 And I heard Stephen Miller yesterday talk about this and said, what this judge is trying to
00:12:22.760 do is unprecedented.
00:12:23.980 That's like trying to move troops out of one country into another.
00:12:29.260 I mean, look, we are following the law.
00:12:32.320 We are following the Constitution, and President Trump is in right on all of this, and to watch
00:12:37.820 the media and the Democrats have a meltdown on getting rid of gang members, Steve.
00:12:43.300 I'm talking about gang members that have just done torturous things, have taken human lives.
00:12:49.060 It's despicable that we have a media and a party in this country that is so defiant of getting
00:12:55.380 rid of criminals, illegal gang criminals in our country.
00:12:59.420 So let it go to the courts, because without a doubt, and Trump is no stranger to the court
00:13:03.240 system, as we all know.
00:13:04.960 He will win on this, but this is their desperate attempt to stop this.
00:13:10.760 Thank you very much, Brian Glenn.
00:13:12.220 Brian, what is your social media so people can follow you throughout the day and know when
00:13:16.180 to jump in and out?
00:13:17.000 Okay, Steve, you can follow me at BrianGlennTV, across the board, at Brian on True Social.
00:13:23.740 As soon as I hear about the files and the timing on that, I'll let you know personally, and
00:13:29.360 then, of course, we'll find out how that phone call went a little bit later today.
00:13:32.980 Oval Office, 3 o'clock here at the White House.
00:13:35.340 Keep it right here at Real America's Voice.
00:13:38.540 Yeah, Brian Glenn's going to be all over.
00:13:40.340 Historic day.
00:13:40.940 President Trump right now talking to the head of the KGB, or former head of the KGB, now
00:13:47.520 the head of Russia, about a rapprochement that would include also a peace deal, ceasefire
00:13:53.660 and a peace deal in Ukraine, all of it.
00:13:55.760 Crimea, I'm sure, is going to come up today, all of it, all of it, all of it.
00:13:59.760 Major military activity in the Red Sea with the Houthis and in Gaza.
00:14:03.960 Looks like the ceasefire there is over.
00:14:06.000 The Muslim Brotherhood franchisee, Hamas, playing around with the hostages.
00:14:11.360 Going to do this, going to do that.
00:14:13.120 I think Israel finally had enough.
00:14:15.300 So let's get it back on.
00:14:16.900 See how tough you are.
00:14:19.080 Natalie Winters is at a conference right down the street from the White House on artificial
00:14:25.320 intelligence and advanced technology, all of it.
00:14:28.920 She'll be reporting from there later in the day.
00:14:31.140 Sam Faddis going to join us, Ben Harnwell.
00:14:32.900 But we got a very special guest next when we come back from the break.
00:14:37.100 Major news coming out of the Treasury Department and Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson.
00:14:43.700 The indefatigable Miranda Devine joins us next in the War Room.
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00:16:13.980 Bannon.
00:16:17.940 Okay, so you have the lineup for today.
00:16:20.340 We've framed this, what's happening.
00:16:22.180 Another historic day.
00:16:23.340 Even as we speak right now, history is being made.
00:16:26.220 I'm sure President Trump will bring us into that when he has us into the Oval Office.
00:16:30.100 Brian Glenn will be there.
00:16:30.940 Natalie's down at the Marc Andreessen Conference.
00:16:33.880 So much going on in the Imperial Capital and throughout the globe.
00:16:37.460 Big news out of Treasury.
00:16:39.620 The one and only Miranda Devine joins us.
00:16:42.940 Miranda, Miranda, you've got to be feeling pretty good.
00:16:45.720 The Laptop from Hell, the Wuhan lab.
00:16:47.660 I mean, everything that you've investigated and written these amazing books about over the
00:16:52.600 last couple of years, it turns out Miranda Devine's right.
00:16:55.520 And, of course, the apparatus is wrong.
00:16:57.920 But here today, some breaking news out of Treasury on whistleblowers.
00:17:01.820 And the IRS, can you explain to the audience exactly what's going on and why this is a very big deal, ma'am?
00:17:08.500 Yeah, hi.
00:17:11.040 Look, this is just brilliant, Steve.
00:17:13.420 The IRS whistleblowers.
00:17:14.420 The IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joe Ziegler, who were the guys who kiboshed Hunter Biden's sweetheart deal,
00:17:22.220 remember, on his tax crimes.
00:17:23.840 He almost got away with it scot-free, except that these two professional, nonpartisan investigators at the IRS,
00:17:33.960 who had spent five years looking into various alleged crimes committed by Hunter Biden,
00:17:40.180 including not just tax fraud and tax evasion, but also money laundering and foreign agent violations, etc.
00:17:48.360 They had been obstructed every step of the way.
00:17:52.000 Any time they went down an investigative trail that led to Joe Biden, they were blocked.
00:17:57.300 No search warrants of Joe Biden's estate where Hunter Biden was living.
00:18:02.080 No geolocation of his phone when he said he was calling his Chinese business partners to shake them down,
00:18:11.900 with his father sitting next to him in Delaware.
00:18:15.380 All of that was blocked.
00:18:17.140 So they finally legally blew the whistle, and it was just in time because Hunter Biden's sweetheart deal fell apart.
00:18:25.420 And as we know, these guys, Shapley and Ziegler, were thrown off the case.
00:18:32.080 New prosecutors were brought in.
00:18:34.480 They had to be brought in.
00:18:36.080 And a judge saw through it.
00:18:38.420 And finally, Hunter, even though the most serious charges, the U.S. attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, had let them lapse,
00:18:48.080 Hunter Biden was still charged with some serious jail-worthy crimes,
00:18:52.260 was found guilty in Delaware and in California,
00:18:56.140 and would have faced jail, except his father in December pardoned him.
00:19:01.500 Going back retrospectively 10 years for any crimes he might have committed in that period.
00:19:06.560 But anyway, Shapley and Ziegler were the heroes of the moment,
00:19:10.140 and they have spent the last two years being punished and ostracized by their bosses at the IRS.
00:19:16.080 Now, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson has done the right thing.
00:19:21.100 He has promoted them.
00:19:22.540 For one year, they will be senior advisors to him, guiding the IRS reform,
00:19:28.740 especially in the cultural sphere, which means personnel.
00:19:33.660 And so then they'll go into the IRS as senior leaders, as bosses.
00:19:39.080 So those, he's identified six people, Shapley, in one of his complaints in his chain of command who retaliated against him.
00:19:49.720 Those people, I would imagine, are not sleeping very well today.
00:19:55.680 Amazing.
00:19:56.520 That's another example going on offense.
00:19:58.820 I have to ask you, you know, in October of 2020,
00:20:03.360 when you came out with the laptop from hell and all the experts,
00:20:06.980 you and Emma Joe Morris at the New York Post,
00:20:10.000 it looked like the world was against you.
00:20:11.900 Facebook, everybody turned against you, said this was wrong,
00:20:16.100 that the New York Post was going to get sued into oblivion.
00:20:18.320 And today, ma'am, as you sit here and kind of witness Putin talking to Trump about a Russian rapprochement
00:20:26.580 and some sort of help in peace in the Middle East with the Persians and in Ukraine stopping the war there,
00:20:32.440 what are your thoughts?
00:20:33.680 Did you ever envision in 2020 when you were accused of being a dupe of Russian misinformation?
00:20:40.600 Did you ever think you see the day that Donald Trump would be back in office
00:20:44.880 and would be negotiating Putin an overall peace deal?
00:20:48.320 Well, I mean, no, because it never should have happened that Joe Biden was president.
00:20:56.560 And, in fact, if our story had not been censored by Facebook and Twitter,
00:21:02.280 and if those 51 dirty intel officials or former intel officials, mainly from the CIA,
00:21:09.620 hadn't lied and said that the laptop and therefore our stories were Russian disinformation,
00:21:14.700 you know, probably Donald Trump would have squeaked into office again.
00:21:20.280 There would have been no war in Ukraine.
00:21:22.440 There would have been no attack by Hamas on Israel on October 7, two years ago.
00:21:28.840 So, no, it could have envisaged what happened.
00:21:32.840 But, look, the Democrats went too far, and all the lawfare and all the attacks
00:21:39.260 and the two assassination attempts against Donald Trump just made him stronger.
00:21:44.580 He is utterly impervious to their attacks.
00:21:48.400 And I think that's why they've now focused their ire on people like Elon Musk and J.D. Vance,
00:21:55.760 because they know that Donald Trump is Teflon coated.
00:22:03.000 What about your thoughts on President Trump finally having enough of this with a detachment,
00:22:08.320 I think, of 12 or 13 Secret Service Protective Unit in South Africa with Hunter Biden?
00:22:15.860 He finally said yesterday,
00:22:17.020 I'm just doing away with this massive coverage for the Biden kids.
00:22:20.560 Your thoughts?
00:22:21.000 Yes, fantastic.
00:22:23.620 I mean, it's outrageous that Hunter Biden still has Secret Service protection.
00:22:27.720 And particularly, he's gone off to South Africa for a luxury vacation,
00:22:33.420 staying in some, you know, ultra-plush Oceanside Villa at $500 a night.
00:22:40.400 He's escaped a court case in California that he brought himself against Garrett Ziegler and the Marco Polo guys.
00:22:47.820 And thanks to Laura Loomer, we have photographs showing that before that case was even dismissed by the judge on his request,
00:22:58.740 he had hightailed it to South Africa with his wife.
00:23:03.300 And he has as many as 18 Secret Service agents on his detail, according to Donald Trump.
00:23:10.840 And that's, you know, his 90-day sojourn in South Africa would have cost the taxpayer conservatively half a million dollars just for those Secret Service agents.
00:23:22.180 So Donald Trump has now stripped him of those agents.
00:23:26.260 Plus, Ashley Biden, his half-sister, had, according to Donald Trump, 13 Secret Service agents giving her round-the-clock protection.
00:23:34.980 And really, as far as I can see, those Secret Service agents act as chauffeurs, door openers for these reprobates for Hunter Biden and his family.
00:23:46.820 So good riddance to bad rubbish.
00:23:49.160 The 51 intelligence executives, officers, many of them CIA, that, and let's be blunt, they try to destroy you personally.
00:23:59.460 They try to destroy your career.
00:24:01.020 They try to make you a laughingstock.
00:24:02.540 They try to make you look like a tool of very dark forces in this country.
00:24:07.720 Do you believe that they've been handled properly?
00:24:09.860 Do you think everything that should have happened to them, because it was their air cover that let the mainstream media and Facebook and others attack you, attack the story, and suppress the story we know is 100% true.
00:24:22.920 Are you satisfied that, to date, enough has been done with these folks, ma'am?
00:24:29.200 No.
00:24:30.060 So far, Donald Trump stripped them of their security clearances, which is a good thing, and will curtail their income somewhat.
00:24:37.160 But, you know, I think, I believe that there may be more in the pipeline.
00:24:42.880 But, look, it's more than just 51 former CIA and NSA, et cetera, officials, which included five former directors or acting directors of the CIA, including the notorious John Brennan, Leon Panetta.
00:24:58.200 James Clapper was one of these people.
00:25:00.140 So we know about them, but the story is even darker, because when that letter was being concocted by former acting director Mike Morrell, who hoped that he would be CIA director under Joe Biden,
00:25:15.000 when he was prompted to write that letter by none other than Antony Blinken, who at that stage was a senior advisor to the Biden campaign, of course, became the secretary of state under Joe Biden.
00:25:33.080 And after Mike Morrell wrote that letter, he got it expedited, had to be cleared by the CIA classification review panel.
00:25:43.720 And they saw the letter, saw how political it was and how it was designed to rig the debate that Joe Biden was just about to have with Donald Trump.
00:25:55.160 And sure enough, he used it.
00:25:57.220 And so they sent it upstairs to none other than CIA director Gina Haspel, who gave it the green light to be published.
00:26:06.200 It should never have been published.
00:26:07.900 It was overtly political.
00:26:09.660 It was a domestic election interference plot by the CIA.
00:26:14.780 And Gina Haspel is interesting, because she also was CIA station chief in London when the Russia collusion hoax was hatched.
00:26:28.220 Before we let you go, we've got about a minute.
00:26:31.120 Given your reporting on facts, do we actually have a deep state that's associated with our government that's part of the administrative state, ma'am?
00:26:41.200 Oh, yes.
00:26:44.300 I mean, the deep state, the unaccountable bureaucracy, you have talked about it ad nauseum.
00:26:52.060 I mean, this is what Donald Trump campaigned on basically back in 2016.
00:26:56.880 It got the better of him in 2020, well, almost.
00:27:01.260 It's hand in glove with the Democrats and doing nefarious things around the world, colour revolutions.
00:27:09.760 And in our names, but without the American people's approval or even knowledge.
00:27:17.720 And this deep state is implacably opposed to Donald Trump.
00:27:21.620 They see him as an existential threat, not to democracy, as the Democrats keep saying, but to the very existence of the deep state.
00:27:29.880 And this time, Donald Trump is forewarned, forearmed.
00:27:34.660 He has an amazing group of warriors around him, including, I have to do a shout out to Stephen Miller, who we were just talking about.
00:27:44.080 He is just relentless and 10 steps ahead of the lawfare and the deep state.
00:27:50.800 We got about 15 seconds.
00:27:54.320 What's your social media?
00:27:55.180 Where do people get you, Miranda?
00:27:57.520 I'm on Twitter or X, as we call it now.
00:28:01.000 And, of course, Truth Social, get out all of them as just at Miranda Devine.
00:28:05.720 And you'll find all my columns at thenewyorkpost.com.
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00:29:45.620 Okay.
00:29:46.260 Mike Davis will be up shortly.
00:29:49.080 Sam Faddis joins us.
00:29:50.300 Sam, today of all days, wrote a brilliant piece yesterday I want to get into,
00:29:53.900 but it kind of revolves around living history that we're going through today.
00:29:58.400 You look at, you know, we're back to the shooting war in the Middle East, your old neighborhood,
00:30:03.860 you know, whether it's the Red Sea, you know, keeping the carrier battle group down the Red Sea,
00:30:07.900 keeping the straits, keeping Suez open for the Europeans.
00:30:13.200 The Israelis are now essentially on bombing runs in Gaza again because the Muslim Brotherhood has broken off
00:30:20.600 the ceasefire process there with the hostages.
00:30:24.340 You've got Putin on a phone call right now.
00:30:26.660 And, of course, many people in the intelligence apparatus are not thrilled about that.
00:30:31.020 Kennedy, finally, after all these decades and decades and decades,
00:30:35.960 the director of national intelligence is supposed to release unredacted,
00:30:41.060 at least 80,000 pages of the final files of Kennedy.
00:30:46.060 Kennedy, you've had the over-treasury, the promotion of the IRS guys that for five years
00:30:52.760 were reviewing Hunter Biden and saw all his crimes and they were buried.
00:30:59.180 Where do we stand?
00:31:00.460 You just heard Amanda, Miranda Devine, talking about this war is really,
00:31:06.620 and you can see in this judge that's ruling against President Trump being commander-in-chief,
00:31:10.260 Steve, the deep state, they look at Trump as an extracentral threat,
00:31:15.060 not to the country or democracy, but to themselves.
00:31:18.080 Put it in a historical perspective, exactly what we're witnessing here, sir.
00:31:23.980 Well, I think you're having a struggle over the fate of the republic,
00:31:28.940 as you have pointed out a million times, Steve.
00:31:32.320 There could not be more elemental issues here.
00:31:37.520 Is there a deep state?
00:31:38.520 Without question.
00:31:39.960 Did they try to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president of the United States?
00:31:43.920 Yes.
00:31:44.680 Did they try to depose him, in effect, stage the first coup in American history?
00:31:50.880 Yes.
00:31:51.260 Are they now going to fight tooth and nail to attempt to prevent him
00:31:58.820 from effectively restoring the republic and saving the republic?
00:32:03.420 Without question.
00:32:05.960 You know, there's a lot of celebrating going on around the country.
00:32:09.260 People talking about we're back.
00:32:11.420 I'm all for that.
00:32:12.960 People deserve to celebrate.
00:32:14.700 But if anybody thinks that we won the war, they are sadly mistaken.
00:32:19.540 These guys did not go away.
00:32:21.000 We are very much in the thick of this thing right now.
00:32:26.560 And when you say the thick of it, as one of the field commanders here,
00:32:30.180 what is the thing that you think we ought to be most—the center of gravity?
00:32:34.480 You know, every battle has a center of gravity.
00:32:37.500 Where do you think the center of gravity in this fight is right now,
00:32:41.380 in your perspective, and what should the forces of the righteous be most focused on, sir?
00:32:48.200 Yeah, well, there's probably a long list.
00:32:51.300 But first and foremost, inside these agencies and these bureaucracies, this deep state that
00:32:56.820 we have allowed to emerge, to build over decades, this unelected fourth branch of government,
00:33:04.740 these guys who think they get to run the country and we're supposed to shut up and sit down and
00:33:09.660 do what we're told, they are not going away.
00:33:12.320 I mean, my old agency, CIA, you got Director Radcliffe and his deputy there.
00:33:19.700 As far as I can tell, every single other senior manager in that place is somebody that was
00:33:26.480 in place when Joe Biden was running the show, throughout everything that transpired during
00:33:31.900 Biden's administration.
00:33:33.420 And many of them going all the way back to what you were just talking about, that were
00:33:38.000 there during Russiagate and Crossfire Hurricane and all of this garbage, and either participated
00:33:46.080 or at a minimum, never stood up, did the right thing, who stood up and said, I can't participate,
00:33:54.600 here's my letter of resignation, I'm walking out the door, I will not stand by and watch
00:34:00.080 while a sitting president is deposed.
00:34:02.440 Not a single blessed one of them, and yet they are all still in power, in position.
00:34:07.200 And I'm using CIA as an example because it's obviously closest to me, but we could apply
00:34:12.040 essentially the same thing to virtually every other federal agency.
00:34:19.120 Does the CIA, this is my theory of the case, and I'm not in this area a professional like
00:34:25.640 you are, but my theory of the case is that the CIA is like Kudzu.
00:34:30.220 The CIA is embedded in the use of the interagency process, which is a process of formalizing policy
00:34:36.560 before it comes into the president, because you have CIA outreach in defense, in justice,
00:34:43.800 obviously in DNI, in DHS.
00:34:46.060 If you look at the power in treasury, if you look at the power, you know, the five or six
00:34:52.120 power departments and the administrative state alphabet agencies associated with those,
00:34:59.160 the CIA has interconnectivity to all those.
00:35:02.520 And essentially, it knows how to run, that the government runs off process, and they're
00:35:08.200 very involved in running processes.
00:35:10.880 Is that, is my theory correct on that?
00:35:13.040 Do you agree with that on the interagency process and this whole thing of detailees and
00:35:16.960 people that are seconded to the White House?
00:35:20.780 Yeah, I agree with you 100%, but in addition to that, let's think about who you're talking
00:35:25.260 about.
00:35:25.640 What is the business of the Central Intelligence Agency?
00:35:28.280 The business of the Central Intelligence Agency is influence, intrigue, manipulation.
00:35:34.660 Now, it's supposed to do that on behalf of the American people against our enemies.
00:35:39.660 You take all those same characteristics and you put them in play inside the United States
00:35:46.000 and inside the government, and that is incredibly, incredibly dangerous.
00:35:50.460 Miranda touched on this when she was talking briefly about Crossfire Hurricane and Gina Haspel.
00:35:56.260 Everybody and his brother at this point is aware, basically, the FBI ran Crossfire Hurricane,
00:36:03.980 was up to their eyeballs in this.
00:36:05.460 Well, CIA had to be every bit as involved.
00:36:10.180 When Gina Haspel was chief of station in London and we were coordinating, our government coordinating
00:36:15.400 with the Brits to try to bring down Donald Trump or first to prevent him from being president,
00:36:20.200 all of that had to flow through the office of the chief of station in London.
00:36:25.300 The CIA head in London, Gina Haspel, had to coordinate all that contact.
00:36:30.960 You don't do anything with the Brits without her okay and without going through her and without
00:36:37.140 the director of CIA knowing it.
00:36:39.800 And yet, despite that involvement, how much do we actually know at this point all these years
00:36:46.060 later about what CIA did as part of this?
00:36:49.620 Virtually nothing, because they're very, very good at that.
00:36:55.720 Look, we had the church committee.
00:36:57.940 They tried to get to the bottom of this in the late 70s, and they came up with the House
00:37:02.640 and Senate intelligence in the Gang of Eight and the intelligence for some sort of oversight
00:37:08.820 as light as it's been.
00:37:11.560 What is your recommendation now?
00:37:12.820 Because I think it should be duly noted.
00:37:15.040 You didn't see a lot of mass resignations from CIA, DNI.
00:37:19.400 You didn't see it also from where CIA is embedded into these other departments.
00:37:25.180 You didn't see a big mass resignation.
00:37:27.220 So they're dug in for a fight.
00:37:29.840 Am I correct in that?
00:37:31.020 They're dug in, and they think they'll just wait Trump out and, you know, Bannon and Sam
00:37:35.680 Faddis and, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, they're just passing through, or do you think that
00:37:42.140 at some point in time, they would just say, okay, we give up and walk away?
00:37:46.440 No, they're not going to give up and walk away.
00:37:48.140 They are dug in.
00:37:48.940 That's exactly the phrase.
00:37:50.320 Perfect phrase, because that's what the head of the FBI field office told his people, right?
00:37:54.740 Dig in to resist.
00:37:56.940 Look, yes, they're going to dig in, and they're going to play you.
00:38:01.280 What was one of the first things that happened?
00:38:03.840 I mean, it happened very recently.
00:38:05.360 All of a sudden, magically, we were handed a guy who we were told was the mastermind
00:38:11.000 of the Abbey Gate attack, who I have no doubt is a bad guy, but I seriously doubt is actually
00:38:17.660 the mastermind of anything.
00:38:19.360 Somehow, magically, we served this guy up in a silver platter.
00:38:22.300 Why?
00:38:23.520 Because this is supposed to be evidence to you that you don't need to change anything.
00:38:28.140 We got it all knocked.
00:38:29.820 We're firing on all cylinders.
00:38:31.480 Please don't put, remove anybody.
00:38:33.380 And they will continue to play these kind of games.
00:38:36.160 What's the first step?
00:38:37.600 I mean, what would you do if you took over any military unit that was bordering on combat
00:38:42.020 ineffective?
00:38:42.780 You'd start by relieving all the senior personnel.
00:38:46.260 You'd fire a bunch of people.
00:38:48.360 You'd toss a bunch of people overboard.
00:38:50.760 Until we do that, you're not going to change CIA or, frankly, any of these other agencies.
00:38:55.880 Yes, they're going to dig in, embed, and resist from inside.
00:38:59.480 You said earlier that we were witnessing with President Trump the first up-in-your-face coup.
00:39:08.600 This afternoon, Tulsi Gara's been ordered by the President of the United States and the
00:39:12.900 Commander-in-Chief to release all documents, about 80,000.
00:39:16.340 And he's actually saying he would like them to be unredacted.
00:39:19.180 Number one, why have they been kept for so many decades after the assassination, after
00:39:24.860 assassination investigation?
00:39:26.880 And will this, is the reason, will this point to more of a, of people's belief in a deep
00:39:32.220 state conspiracy against President Kennedy?
00:39:36.000 Well, I suspect the reason that they've been withheld is because you're going to find out,
00:39:39.540 yes, a lot of unflattering things.
00:39:41.820 You know, for the record, do I think you're going to find out CIA killed JFK?
00:39:45.160 No, I don't personally believe that.
00:39:47.880 And let me just note this.
00:39:50.040 If the Central Intelligence Agency assassinated the President of the United States, there ain't
00:39:55.060 going to be a file down in the basement that says how we did it or delineates anything that
00:40:01.420 has to do with that.
00:40:02.520 I suspect, though, you may find a whole lot of information that suggests that they ignored
00:40:07.860 a lot of things, that they could have, that they had information regarding Oswald, for
00:40:13.100 instance, that wasn't passed along, that kind of stuff that's very unflattering.
00:40:17.640 And yeah, you might find actually some pretty overt criticism of JFK.
00:40:25.240 Some of you colleagues, before I let you go, some of your colleagues, you're in kind of
00:40:27.920 a back and forth now with some of your colleagues and people you respect that are saying, Sam,
00:40:32.820 there's no deep state and here's why.
00:40:35.060 Where are we on that, on actually people in the intelligence universe admitting that there
00:40:40.840 is an aspect of this that's quite rogue and doesn't really follow direction, regardless
00:40:45.220 who the President of the United States is, sir?
00:40:48.280 Well, I mean, I've talked to a wide range of folks and many of them are completely on
00:40:53.300 board with the fact that, look, this thing went off the rails a long time ago and we need
00:40:57.080 radical change.
00:40:58.280 Are there a bunch of them who basically want me to shut up and sit down and think this,
00:41:04.700 everything's fine?
00:41:05.540 And yeah, they are.
00:41:06.460 I mean, you know, to use the Star Trek analogy, they were assimilated a long time ago.
00:41:11.840 And at this point, they actually think they should be running the country.
00:41:18.720 Sam, where do people get in magazine, where they get all of all your information?
00:41:23.300 I'm sure after the file today, we'll have you back on shortly, but where do people go?
00:41:28.320 We're on Substack and magazine dot Substack dot com.
00:41:32.140 Um, I'm on X as real Sam Faddis.
00:41:35.980 If you go to end magazine, you'll find, you'll find our links to everywhere.
00:41:39.820 Yeah.
00:41:42.300 Sam, absolutely fantastic.
00:41:44.020 Keep fighting, sir.
00:41:46.260 Yes, sir.
00:41:47.940 Sam, Sam Faddis is theory of the case.
00:41:50.100 And still you start seeing some mass resignations and or firings.
00:41:54.080 We're not going to make a lot of headway.
00:41:55.500 I think I'd agree with that.
00:41:56.520 And I hope the team over both with Tulsi at D&I and also with John Ratcliffe over at CIA
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00:45:22.360 They're going to wind up in the Supreme Court.
00:45:25.420 And the Supreme Court is going to have a moment in our legal history where they will more aggressively define the limits of executive power.
00:45:34.440 There's a lot of people who watch the Supreme Court closely who think they're going to go further than probably most Americans would be comfortable with.
00:45:42.600 But nevertheless, they're going to decide.
00:45:44.620 And I think there's a number of things that Trump has done that put him in a bad place with the Supreme Court.
00:45:51.180 And I would put near the top of this list not only define a court order, which is going to really rankle people who were district court judges and were appellate judges that are on the Supreme Court.
00:46:02.200 But also this idea that they're going after law firms who have represented people that Donald Trump doesn't like.
00:46:09.980 That's a pretty scary thing.
00:46:13.700 Private law firms.
00:46:14.860 Private law firms to a large law firm who most of the people at that law firm have never seen Jack Smith, don't know Jack Smith, had nothing to do with Jack Smith, but trying to cut off their livelihood because their firm represented someone who was unpopular with the sitting president.
00:46:30.780 That is really going to be something that judges are going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:46:36.200 Our entire system depends on people who are bad people getting lawyers, much less somebody who was just doing their job under the facts, which was Jack Smith.
00:46:47.320 So it's really, I think, going to be a moment where the Supreme Court, they're not popular right now for a lot of ethical trans transgressions that have occurred in the recent past.
00:46:58.980 But, you know, John Roberts has a big job here.
00:47:02.720 Frankly, Amy Coney Barrett has a big job here.
00:47:05.280 I think the other four are lost on the MAGA Island.
00:47:09.420 But those two, I think, have shown a willingness to really take a hard look at executive power and the overreach.
00:47:16.720 Let me say it again.
00:47:17.940 This is the overreach of big government.
00:47:20.840 And all the folks out there in Missouri who have told me at hundreds of town halls, we want government off our backs, I don't think they realize that they have unleashed, what did she call it, the Kraken or whatever it was, in terms of big government overreach with what this administration is trying to do.
00:47:39.080 Mike Davis joins us.
00:47:44.740 Mike, we're going to play clips from all morning, including Joe Scarborough saying that Mike Davis should call James Madison and walk through the Federalist Papers and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
00:47:58.380 Jimmy Madison being involved in all three of those.
00:48:01.160 So, Mike Davis, they're absolutely, totally freaking out, as you know, at 11 o'clock and we got Julie Kelly doing that, the judges asked for, which I think is the most important of all these cases.
00:48:12.560 But just walk us through the battlefield and where do we stand specifically in his challenge?
00:48:18.380 Because it's the unitary theory of the executive.
00:48:20.540 They're challenging him as chief executive of the United States to make personnel decisions, to not spend certain monies.
00:48:26.520 They're challenging him as commander in chief by saying you can't deport criminal aliens.
00:48:31.920 They're attacking him as chief magistrate, where their head's blown up, that he would walk into the sacred temple of Maine Justice and desecrate it, according to them.
00:48:41.100 Your thoughts of where we stand this morning, Mike Davis?
00:48:44.760 President Trump campaigned on the fact that he's going to go after the waste, fraud and abuse in Washington, D.C.
00:48:55.620 He's going to secure our border.
00:48:58.980 He's going to deport illegal immigrants, particularly vicious international gang members and foreign terrorists.
00:49:08.520 And he's doing within two months, he's doing exactly what he promised American voters he would do.
00:49:16.660 President Trump has the House.
00:49:19.100 President Trump has the Senate, a comfortable margin in the Senate.
00:49:22.160 And it's because the American people like what President Trump said.
00:49:25.760 And that's why they gave him a broad electoral mandate.
00:49:28.880 These Democrat activists have nowhere to go.
00:49:31.760 So they're just going to these activist judges, right?
00:49:34.800 And they're playing a very dangerous game.
00:49:36.780 I know for a fact, because these D.C.
00:49:39.520 District Court judges are so dumb, they don't realize who's in the room.
00:49:43.480 But I know for a fact that they are bragging.
00:49:47.020 They're bragging how they are sabotaging President Trump and the presidency with their temporary restraining orders, these illegal orders.
00:49:55.080 It's a contest amongst these D.C.
00:49:57.640 activist judges who can go and issue the TRO first or who can do the next TRO.
00:50:04.300 I know that's happening, right?
00:50:06.060 Because, again, they're so dumb.
00:50:07.600 They don't know who's in the room.
00:50:09.880 And so they're doing this.
00:50:11.340 They're sabotaging the presidency.
00:50:13.620 This is lawless.
00:50:14.620 And, you know, it's a dangerous game.
00:50:17.300 They started off by doing workers that, you know, the president somehow can't fire executive branch officers.
00:50:25.660 Or the president can't transfer workers or he can't do things with the workforce, which is nonsense.
00:50:32.040 It's a violation of Article 2 of the Constitution.
00:50:34.720 But now this game is getting more and more dangerous, right?
00:50:38.700 Those were the personnel stuff were the gateway drugs for these activist judges.
00:50:43.880 Now they're getting into the national security realm.
00:50:46.600 And it's getting very, very dangerous, not only from a national security perspective, but from a constitutional perspective.
00:50:53.660 Two weeks ago, this Judge Ali, he's actually a Canadian citizen to this day on the federal bench in D.C.
00:51:01.660 He bragged he's the first Muslim and Arab federal judge in D.C.
00:51:05.560 Judge Ali ordered the president of the United States somehow through a temporary restraining order to issue $2 billion in foreign aid over the president's national security review.
00:51:17.460 The president wanted to make sure we're not funding Hamas terrorists, for example, under the guise of Gaza humanitarian relief.
00:51:26.020 The president wanted to make sure we were not sending out money for waste, fraud, and abuse like, you know, research on transgender mice.
00:51:32.760 This Judge Ali ordered the president to send $2 billion out over the president's national security concern.
00:51:40.540 And the Supreme Court of the United States two weeks ago let him do this because the Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett cited with the three leftists who always vote for the Democrats.
00:51:52.920 And I think the rationale was this is, you know, this Judge Ali called this a temporary restraining order, a TRO instead of a preliminary injunction, which is just total nonsense.
00:52:02.340 It's not a TRO if you're sending $2 billion out of the country that you're never going to get back that that, you know, it's it's insane to call that a TRO.
00:52:10.300 But because it was called a TRO, Professor Amy Coney Barrett thought she was grading a civil procedure exam at Notre Dame and said, OK, it's a they called it a TRO.
00:52:19.760 We can't review this horrifying judgment.
00:52:22.360 Right. And so fast forward two weeks, the horrifying consequence, natural and probable consequence of the Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett's horrifying judgment judgment is you have a judge, this D.C.
00:52:39.760 Obama judge, Jeb Bosberg, going into his chambers on Saturday during the middle.
00:52:46.320 I tell you what, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, hang on for one second.
00:52:50.580 I want to give a cliffhanger.
00:52:52.340 We're going to take a short break, 90 seconds.
00:52:55.320 Mike Davis on the other side to tell us where we stand, what's the state of play and more importantly, how we go on offense.
00:53:02.640 All next after 90 seconds in the war room.
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