Bannon's War Room - March 21, 2025


Episode 4354: The Democrats’ Foux-Populists, The Tea Party’s Victory


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55 minutes

Words per Minute

162.81004

Word Count

9,067

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748

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 And then Senator Bernie Sanders and Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rallied
00:00:06.500 thousands of supporters at an event in Arizona last night against efforts by the Trump administration
00:00:12.740 and Elon Musk to reshape the federal government. Take a look.
00:00:17.840 If any Republican wants to vote their conscience and if any Republican in the House of the
00:00:24.860 Senate says, you know, maybe it's not a good idea to give a trillion dollars in tax rates
00:00:30.480 for the 1% and then cut Medicaid, education and nutrition. If that person were to stand
00:00:35.680 up and say, I have a problem with that, you know what Musk would do? Musk in five minutes
00:00:40.360 would say, we are going to primary you, your political life is over.
00:00:49.760 That is not democracy.
00:00:54.860 And our fight is to make sure that we remain a democracy, one person, one vote, not billionaires.
00:01:02.240 We are witnessing an oligarchy in America.
00:01:08.640 And that is when those with the most economic, political and technological power destroy the
00:01:18.300 public good to enrich themselves while millions of Americans pay the price.
00:01:24.860 And we are at a point where the wealthiest people in the world, like Elon Musk and all the
00:01:36.260 Republicans enabling him are turning to loot what is left of Medicaid, Medicare and Social
00:01:45.780 Security to bankroll even deeper tax cuts and sweetheart contracts for themselves, their
00:01:53.300 fellow billionaires and their fellow billionaires and their corporations.
00:01:57.180 But I am struck by that.
00:02:00.680 And you see it from time to time in American politics, where the people are considered to be on the far left and the people who are considered to be on the far right are saying the same thing.
00:02:11.300 When they're talking about technocrats, Silicon Valley, billionaires, oligarchs, AOC is saying a lot of what sort of the Steve Bannon wing of MAGA is saying.
00:02:31.100 Like if you hear Steve Bannon, we've talked about this, if you hear Steve Bannon talking, he will talk about the threat of the billionaires, the threat of the tax cuts, the threat of of the technocrats, the threat of a lot of what your father was talking about 30 years ago.
00:02:49.220 And it is amazing how like this sort of populist strain comes together at the end of both political spectrums.
00:02:58.220 That is the message that Democrats should run with oligarchy.
00:03:02.160 It is they are getting rich.
00:03:04.660 You are getting nothing.
00:03:06.220 And they need to just go hard at that.
00:03:08.820 They need to let their anger show.
00:03:10.360 They need to just frankly move on from a lot of the, you know, Trump making it so about Trump, but make it about the whole picture about what he is doing.
00:03:21.320 Bernie Sanders has the message that Democrats need to embrace.
00:03:24.700 Well, and again, I've heard you talk about this before.
00:03:29.800 It's a politically potent message, not because it's a quote Marxist message.
00:03:34.860 It's because it's a MAGA message as well.
00:03:39.860 Again, if you listen to what Steve Bannon says, you listen to other people who are talking about, hey, we don't need to give billionaires and multinational corporations more tax cuts.
00:03:50.800 We don't need to let the technocrats.
00:03:53.480 We don't need Silicon Valley, you know, continue with their monopolies.
00:03:57.660 I mean, these are people actually say positive things about Lena Kahn, too, because they hate a concentration of power.
00:04:03.900 And at least it's just right.
00:04:05.280 I mean, I think she's exactly right.
00:04:07.520 This is where Democrats can actually find common cause with a lot of people who voted for Donald Trump, because we've always talked about the very strange thing that in 2016, the Bernie Sanders supporters, after they couldn't vote for Bernie Sanders, who did they vote for?
00:04:23.300 Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
00:04:24.700 And in that common cause, you say, it does bring surprising fellow travelers.
00:04:30.040 I mean, Steve Bannon openly speaks about he's an admirer of AOC, thinks she's a remarkably talented politician, a political athlete, but also they agree on some of these issues.
00:04:39.700 There is there is that idea that that that that the elites are the problem and it's for they're forgetting that working class, the common man in Eugene Robinson.
00:04:47.440 And that is we're seeing that among this debate right now, front and center for the Democratic Party, who we have seen in some of the post-election autopsies.
00:04:55.600 Many, including they say we become just the party of college graduates.
00:04:59.600 We've lost the working class or we're in the midst of losing the working class to Republicans.
00:05:04.180 Now, some of that maybe is just a Trump centric phenomenon.
00:05:06.860 That's too early to know.
00:05:08.020 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:05:15.660 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:05:20.860 I got a free shot.
00:05:22.120 All these networks lying about the people.
00:05:25.120 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:05:27.100 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:05:28.520 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:05:31.140 It's going to happen.
00:05:32.200 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:05:35.820 Mega Media.
00:05:36.720 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:05:42.640 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:05:46.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:05:52.740 War Room.
00:05:53.560 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:05:56.000 It's Friday, 21 March, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:06:05.540 Last night in Tempe, Arizona, I think it is like a hockey rink, 5,000 seats.
00:06:13.420 After being in North Las Vegas earlier in the day, the Bernie Sanders AOC Roadshow came to Tempe, Arizona.
00:06:21.140 Now, that's Arizona State.
00:06:22.520 They're keeping close to college towns because they know they can draw a huge crowd from these colleges.
00:06:30.120 But I think they had 5,000.
00:06:31.480 They had, you know, a number of people outside.
00:06:34.100 They said thousands.
00:06:35.060 Other people said hundreds.
00:06:36.020 But let's say this.
00:06:36.700 It was a sold-out crowd.
00:06:38.380 And it was pure old-fashioned populism.
00:06:41.500 Our coalition that we've been bringing together, the 1932 realignment,
00:06:46.760 they are finally waking up to the fact that, and particularly yesterday,
00:06:52.480 this is why it's so important to happen yesterday,
00:06:55.760 President Trump's initial thrust are to implode and crush the credentialed class.
00:07:08.040 The credentialed class has done so much damage to this country with the, as Ben Harnwell,
00:07:15.620 who will join us momentarily, and Dave Bratt, our sociopathic overlords,
00:07:19.680 the lords of easy money on Wall Street, and of course, the oligarchs in Silicon Valley,
00:07:25.940 and some in corporate America.
00:07:27.940 The corporate America are really more globalist and corporatist.
00:07:30.740 The oligarchs are really Silicon Valley and some on Wall Street.
00:07:36.440 Now, we've identified that for years.
00:07:39.080 The left loved them.
00:07:41.900 When Elon Musk, and this is what's so amazing to watch about their turning on Elon Musk,
00:07:48.540 and the danger, particularly the danger I think Elon Musk is in,
00:07:52.720 and the danger that the Tesla dealerships are in, the people driving Teslas,
00:07:56.420 because they have turned on them, like if you've studied revolutionary movements,
00:08:01.720 they've turned on them like the most dangerous elements of the French Revolution
00:08:06.580 and the most dangerous elements of the Bolsheviks.
00:08:11.360 It's brutal.
00:08:12.140 It's just one slight notch down from gunning down what the head of UnitedHealthcare,
00:08:20.600 shooting him in the back after laying in wait,
00:08:23.180 jumping out and shooting point-blank range in the back,
00:08:26.620 and being celebrated by that same crowd as a hero.
00:08:30.740 They now understand the math.
00:08:34.280 It takes a while to understand the math after you're defeated.
00:08:38.100 It took us a while to understand the math after 2012, the defeat of Romney.
00:08:43.000 Now, we were anti-Romney from the beginning,
00:08:46.060 but there were so many people in the conservative movement that,
00:08:48.980 oh, Romney's going to win.
00:08:49.980 Remember, they had the big gathering of the billionaires.
00:08:53.180 Up at the Four Seasons Hotel that night in Boston.
00:08:57.720 I think Four Seasons or the Ritz.
00:08:59.400 I think it was Four Seasons.
00:09:03.000 All of them were gathered up there.
00:09:04.500 Paul Singer, the whole crowd, they all thought they were going to win.
00:09:07.620 And I was running Breitbart at the time.
00:09:11.500 I thought Romney was a complete stone-cold loser
00:09:15.980 and had no possibility of winning.
00:09:19.220 We had the Tea Party movement, had already won a huge victory in 2010 in the off-year elections.
00:09:24.460 Picked up, I think, 60, 61 seats, 63 seats.
00:09:28.080 And Romney and his team did not want any involvement in the Tea Party.
00:09:31.680 The Tea Party reached out.
00:09:32.600 I chaired a meeting, actually, at the Breitbart embassy.
00:09:36.880 It was the first time all the Tea Party heads came together
00:09:38.940 because a lot of them were suing each other.
00:09:41.220 And they made an outreach to Romney and just had no interest whatsoever.
00:09:47.940 But Sean Trendy, a guy, a lawyer, actually, I think at Hunt and Williams in Richmond,
00:09:53.620 Sean Trendy, who still does analysis of polls today,
00:09:57.580 did this remarkable analysis that came up in Real Clear Politics.
00:10:00.600 It was about, I don't know, like a month after, a couple weeks after,
00:10:05.420 that really laid out why Romney lost.
00:10:07.760 And that was a moment for me when I walked through there
00:10:11.360 because at the same time, the official Republican Party,
00:10:14.820 Reince Priebus and these guys, who I'd just gotten to meet right before,
00:10:18.000 just briefly, for like two or three minutes,
00:10:19.580 they did this thing called the autopsy, I think it was.
00:10:24.060 And they went through it and they came up with the solution
00:10:26.960 that we needed to have amnesty,
00:10:29.260 that the big reason we lost was that we didn't have amnesty in this space.
00:10:32.480 It was a complete lie.
00:10:33.380 When you went through the numbers, none of it made sense.
00:10:36.140 You could tell they were selling people a lie.
00:10:38.000 It's one of the reasons, in the back of my mind, I said,
00:10:41.140 one day, you know, Breitbart went even harder kind of on populist nationalists
00:10:45.500 because I understood that the establishment of the Republican Party
00:10:48.320 was just controlled opposition.
00:10:49.460 If anything proved it to me, it was that what in the Navy you call a hot wash up
00:10:54.520 after a exercise because I realized they were not grounded in truth.
00:11:01.760 There was no ground truth to this.
00:11:03.160 It was just a bunch of lies that were going to be sold to people.
00:11:06.680 And remember, there was later disclosed that they went and had a meeting
00:11:10.880 with Roger Ailes and Sean Hannity, Marco Rubio was there.
00:11:13.860 They were going to sell this.
00:11:14.520 Rubio was going to be the front of it, and they started running it up the flagpole
00:11:17.920 in the spring of 2013, and we had that epic fight.
00:11:23.340 For those of you old enough to remember, we had an epic fight in the summer of 2013
00:11:27.720 on the floor of the House, led by Steve King and Michelle Bachman
00:11:33.700 and just these incredible fighters to stop the bill is going through
00:11:38.040 just by a handful of votes at the very last second.
00:11:41.000 Oh, by the way, Michelle Bachman, on her staff were two junior people,
00:11:46.220 Stephen Miller and Sergio Gore, who are two of the most powerful people
00:11:50.120 in President Trump's White House.
00:11:51.620 They were staff grundoons for Michelle Bachman back then.
00:11:57.040 And then later, in June of 2014, in a primary, the sitting majority leader,
00:12:04.020 you had Paul Ryan, you had Eric Cantor, and then you had McCarthy.
00:12:12.840 They were the young guns.
00:12:14.760 This is what was being sold, the young guns.
00:12:17.320 And it was just a mishmash of this neoliberal, neocon,
00:12:21.280 totally unrelated to working class people, totally unrelated to the lived experience
00:12:25.940 of the vast majority of folks in this country, just completely detached.
00:12:31.940 And in June, they had a primary in Virginia, and Eric Cantor was running,
00:12:37.700 and a young woman named Julia Hahn, who's now Assistant Secretary of the Treasury
00:12:43.720 for Public Affairs.
00:12:45.780 So these people do move up.
00:12:47.580 No, there's a career path here, folks.
00:12:50.080 So Julia Hahn, who was a young, she was the Natalie Winters of her time.
00:12:55.420 She had gone to Harvard-Westlake, finished top of her class just like Natalie.
00:12:59.140 She had then gone to the University of Chicago, just like Natalie.
00:13:02.360 She was one of the top of her class at the University of Chicago.
00:13:06.300 Incredibly brilliant young woman.
00:13:07.620 She was the producer for Laura Ingraham, her radio show.
00:13:12.000 So Laura Ingraham's producer, Matt Boyle, the great Tony Lee,
00:13:19.280 a guy who's one of the most brilliant young men I've ever met,
00:13:22.460 in Breitbart Radio, I think we were on Sirius XM at that time on Sunday nights,
00:13:28.000 with a guy named Maxwell, Ron Maxwell, the director of Gettysburg.
00:13:32.680 Ron Maxwell came up and introduced us to a young professor at Randolph-Macon College.
00:13:39.240 His name was Dave Bratt.
00:13:40.860 And Dave Bratt, John McLaughlin, the president's pollster today,
00:13:43.620 John McLaughlin, had Dave Bratt down by, I think, 40 or 50 points
00:13:50.060 on the last poll he took on the eve of the election.
00:13:53.200 Some would show that Eric Cantor didn't even show up.
00:13:56.340 He wasn't even down in Richmond on election day.
00:13:58.120 He was up with the lobbyists in Richmond.
00:14:00.820 Dave Bratt pulled off the biggest upset, I think, in American political history.
00:14:06.340 Dave Bratt, I think, had 50 bucks in his campaign
00:14:08.780 and defeated a sitting majority leader, right?
00:14:11.860 A sitting majority leader, first time in history in a primary,
00:14:14.320 in the history of this republic,
00:14:16.180 by, I don't know, 10, 15, 12, 15 points.
00:14:19.020 Fox News couldn't even, they didn't even, I mean, they were, like, flabbergasted.
00:14:23.340 The next day, Facebook was supposed to be there.
00:14:26.120 Zuckerberg, that criminal, for a whole thing,
00:14:28.360 a whole big push-out on amnesty.
00:14:32.860 That was killed.
00:14:34.920 And a new day dawned in American politics.
00:14:37.960 We're going to have Dave Bratt here in a moment.
00:14:40.040 We're going to talk about populism.
00:14:41.300 We're going to talk about the Democrats are making a very smart move right now.
00:14:45.420 And, folks, we've got to cut them off at the pass.
00:14:49.200 Johnny Kahn, part of that Breitbart crew.
00:14:52.760 Short break.
00:14:53.740 The Dave Bratt, live in the room next.
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00:18:00.700 Two things.
00:18:01.620 I'm remiss.
00:18:02.100 The war room engine room reminds me of the third hand there in Bogman.
00:18:06.720 It was the great Tara Dahl.
00:18:08.840 Tara Dahl, who was at R.A.V. on the morning show.
00:18:12.200 She worked for me for a number of years at Breitbart.
00:18:13.980 She worked with us as the chief of staff for General Kellogg in Trump's first term.
00:18:19.500 She's over at the State Department.
00:18:20.700 Right now, I think she's one of the people that have been assigned to wind down USAID.
00:18:25.480 She's a superstar.
00:18:26.420 So you had Gore, Miller, and Tara Dahl.
00:18:29.320 Not a bad staff for a young congressman from Minnesota.
00:18:32.920 Not a bad staff at all.
00:18:35.080 Also, just so we get the timeline right, in those 30 days, go back to around May 1st of 2014,
00:18:45.340 I went to a cattle call for Breitbart Radio.
00:18:48.060 We were then doing Saturday mornings also.
00:18:49.640 I went to a cattle call in New Hampshire.
00:18:53.480 I think it was Hanover, New Hampshire, put on by Dave Bossie in Citizens United.
00:18:57.660 Dave would often do these things for Republican primaries where very early on, a year in advance,
00:19:04.980 six months in advance, nine months in advance, that things really get rolling.
00:19:08.000 He would do these cattle calls so that grassroots leaders, people like yourselves, in the future, you will be going to these.
00:19:15.400 That there would be in New Hampshire and Iowa and South Carolina and then a little bit Nevada.
00:19:19.240 But he would do these and allow all the conservative, you know, Citizens United was a grassroots conservative organization.
00:19:27.180 They would all come.
00:19:27.900 He had one in Hanover, New Hampshire, and you had Rand Paul just been on Time Magazine's cover.
00:19:32.600 He was like the man of the moment.
00:19:33.800 And you had Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz, and Newt, and all types of other people just putting their toe in the water,
00:19:41.260 seeing if their message resonated, just wanted to maybe, I'm going to run four years from now, not now, or eight years from now,
00:19:47.580 but I just want to get out there.
00:19:49.020 So I don't know.
00:19:49.900 They had 20 people, 25 people all day.
00:19:51.780 And interesting, a lot of the people that are now prominent in media and have their own shows,
00:19:57.360 the Cassie Hunts, the Katie Turs, those people from the, you know, Fox,
00:20:01.660 they would be the Saturday reporter.
00:20:04.220 These were held on Saturdays, be Saturday reporter doing the stand-ups at this,
00:20:08.400 just to kind of keep their hand on it.
00:20:10.740 At that cattle call, Donald John Trump talked off the top of his head.
00:20:17.100 And I always sit in the back.
00:20:18.760 I was doing Breitbart Radio, and I just watched and observed.
00:20:23.420 Trump's speech and his nomenclature was like no one else's that talked that day.
00:20:28.460 They all talked in a certain vernacular.
00:20:30.420 They all talked about certain concepts, and it had, what I said, a dryness to it.
00:20:34.280 It was thin.
00:20:35.860 It didn't resonate, didn't have any, didn't have any, you know, it's like the right stuff.
00:20:40.700 You can't define it, but you can feel it in a room.
00:20:43.780 And Trump and these people leaned in to what Trump said.
00:20:47.120 These are working class, middle class people.
00:20:48.760 It's basically you.
00:20:50.280 On May 1st or the 1st of May in 2014, it was basically you on a Saturday seeing all these
00:20:57.800 candidates.
00:20:59.440 And I said, I'd seen Trump at CPAC, and I'd known him since Dave Bossie had introduced me
00:21:03.400 back in 2010 and didn't know him well, right?
00:21:07.900 But keep an eye on it.
00:21:08.880 I said, that could be the guy.
00:21:11.580 Jeff Sessions has said earlier that, you know, Lou Dobbs and Sarah Palin, so they were all,
00:21:16.540 they were all, they weren't going to do it, right?
00:21:18.320 Sarah Palin didn't run in the primary in 12 and just didn't, just wasn't her thing.
00:21:24.080 It had that moment, just like Christie had that moment in 12.
00:21:27.120 When they have that moment, you got to grab that moment or you'll lose it.
00:21:32.200 And I saw Trump and I said, I can see this.
00:21:37.980 He speaks differently.
00:21:40.440 He talks about different topics and people lean into it.
00:21:44.160 They want to hear more.
00:21:45.140 They want to understand more.
00:21:46.080 They don't understand anything right now because this guy's really a showman.
00:21:49.880 He's really a media person out.
00:21:51.580 He's really got this huge show.
00:21:53.180 And he's also this legendary Donald Trump of the hotels and it's Trump.
00:21:58.320 And, but it was, there was a reality there.
00:22:03.020 30 days later, 35 days later, five weeks later, Dave Bratt, out of nowhere.
00:22:09.860 And as much as I love Dave Bratt, it wasn't about Dave Bratt.
00:22:13.800 Dave Bratt was a fresh, young face.
00:22:16.140 Ron Maxwell was very smart about that.
00:22:17.780 He's a fresh, young face and he was preaching pretty standard, limited government, conservative values, conservative, conservative ideas.
00:22:27.140 But the Tea Party was up and what they wanted is the bosses, the political bosses to go.
00:22:31.500 They realized the leadership was selling them a bill of goods, particularly on amnesty.
00:22:35.980 They knew that this was not real.
00:22:38.580 Dave Bratt, and now Politico has a huge story.
00:22:42.100 It's about the Democrats.
00:22:43.920 And this is why I'd be very careful.
00:22:45.480 The Democrats have a blocking function right now in President Trump's revolution.
00:22:49.400 That's the federal courts.
00:22:51.460 This is why, this is why Wisconsin's so important.
00:22:54.120 It's the courts where they try to control things.
00:22:56.700 Right now you have a judicial insurrection.
00:22:58.980 I would say almost a judicial coup in the courts.
00:23:01.900 But the courts are a blocking function right now.
00:23:04.500 To deny, to delay is to deny.
00:23:08.040 That's your strategy.
00:23:08.740 But politically, they have to come up with an answer.
00:23:11.640 You have to come up with an answer.
00:23:13.580 And you can tell directionally where their answer is going.
00:23:16.140 This article in Politico, Dave Bratt, is pretty amazing because it specifically talks about you and what happened back in those days of the Tea Party revolt in 2014.
00:23:24.740 Your thoughts, sir?
00:23:28.960 Yeah, well, that's an incredible story.
00:23:30.660 And you were part of all of it the whole way along.
00:23:33.340 And so thanks to you and thanks for all my friends.
00:23:35.680 Hanover's having their big Republican celebration coming up in a week or so.
00:23:40.640 The great county that helped me out so much.
00:23:43.160 And, yeah, I was going around giving economic lectures on the Judeo-Christian tradition and economics.
00:23:48.240 And the press was just mocking me and making fun of me.
00:23:51.040 But I was looking out at the audience, and they liked it.
00:23:53.000 They wanted to know what in the world is going on.
00:23:55.680 And so the big difference, I had Tea Party support, right?
00:23:58.660 Tea stands for taxed enough already.
00:24:01.220 And, of course, that, as you always cover, followed the 0708 financial crisis where the Federal Reserve ran interest rates for too low, boom-bust cycle, kind of like we got right now.
00:24:12.300 And that led to a trillion-dollar bailout for the banks.
00:24:15.900 And the average person was left behind, as usual.
00:24:19.060 The elites up in Congress just covered it all over.
00:24:22.460 The media didn't cover anything.
00:24:23.820 The uniparty's going at it.
00:24:25.860 And then you combine that with the immigration issue I ran on.
00:24:30.400 That was just formative right then.
00:24:32.200 It was just trivial compared to what the border invasion is today.
00:24:36.900 But the economics made no sense, right?
00:24:38.780 A family of four coming in.
00:24:39.840 The kids cost $40,000 in education alone without even getting into social services.
00:24:44.500 So that was upside down.
00:24:46.620 I was preaching that.
00:24:47.480 I was going over Social Security and Medicare and education and the literacy rates.
00:24:52.540 And yesterday, basically, I knew I had Tea Party support.
00:24:56.300 So I ran with the Republican creed.
00:24:58.420 I said, there's nothing wrong with the creed.
00:24:59.900 It's just that no Republicans follow it.
00:25:02.300 And so yesterday, you get President Trump for the first time in 40 years.
00:25:06.780 Reagan was anticipating it somewhat.
00:25:08.720 But Trump on the Department of Education, on endless wars.
00:25:13.640 I heard AOC trying to sound like a populist yesterday.
00:25:16.640 She was reading a script.
00:25:18.140 She was not at her best.
00:25:19.440 They're working out this populism.
00:25:21.740 We had true populist anger at Washington, D.C. and the leadership.
00:25:26.620 And we had a core Judeo-Christian West message that combined James Madison's logic with Adam
00:25:34.140 Smith's logic, and they wanted a lot of factions competing in the business.
00:25:38.280 They did not want oligarchs.
00:25:39.740 They don't want monopolies.
00:25:42.000 They don't want a monopoly in education.
00:25:44.440 And now we're working that out.
00:25:47.020 We are working our way toward those, back to those ideals that end up with better products,
00:25:52.620 lower prices, all the best outcomes, no wars, a million dead in Ukraine.
00:25:56.960 Where has AOC and Bernie been on the endless wars and a million dead boys in Ukraine and Russia?
00:26:05.740 Where are they?
00:26:06.520 Where is the old liberal message?
00:26:07.960 Why don't they care about 20% literacy rates in K-12 education for the kids in Chicago?
00:26:14.320 Why don't they care about the debt, right?
00:26:16.200 We're bankrupt on the kids.
00:26:17.200 I didn't hear any of this stuff from them in the last few years, and not enough from the
00:26:21.380 Republican leadership on some of these issues either.
00:26:23.500 So it's all on Trump, and it's this populist message that resonates, and it's a revolution
00:26:29.160 from below.
00:26:30.440 And I don't think the left has it.
00:26:32.320 They're mad.
00:26:33.260 They want power, right?
00:26:34.480 But they want power in search of no particular end, right?
00:26:37.580 No Aristotelian end in mind.
00:26:39.760 It's unethical.
00:26:40.840 It's unmoored to any fundamentals that they want to change.
00:26:44.860 They're just angry.
00:26:45.820 And then they say, oh, you got billionaires on your side.
00:26:48.280 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:26:49.180 Trump was the first guy in four years that increased wages for blue-collar workers.
00:26:55.620 So you guys got it all wrong in and on the Depression and these tariffs.
00:26:59.740 They're misreporting all this stuff against Trump.
00:27:02.000 All the rich 20, the G20 countries all have double or triple the tariffs that the U.S. has.
00:27:07.780 All these financial channels obscure that.
00:27:11.260 They obscure the reasons for the Great Depression, and it's just hype.
00:27:15.200 Hang on, we're going to get back to you.
00:27:20.780 Johnson & Johnson announces $55 billion into advanced manufacturing here in the good old United States of America
00:27:29.780 with workers who are going to be United States citizens.
00:27:33.840 They'll start in North Carolina.
00:27:35.840 Another massive investment.
00:27:37.260 Another day, another massive investment.
00:27:38.660 Of course, Bernie and AOC, Dave Wright, I watch them offer, it's all cosplay.
00:27:50.320 They understand, they've been told by the credential class, they're still running the deal,
00:27:54.800 and the billionaires, they've got to have a different message.
00:27:57.480 They want to get to this populism message.
00:28:00.720 Complete and totally phony.
00:28:04.440 Short break.
00:28:05.580 Back in a moment.
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00:29:40.920 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:43.360 Okay, we're going to get back into this also with President Trump.
00:29:52.480 The stuff they're doing day to day, like the executive order on China to cut off China from our capital markets,
00:29:58.400 like another executive order signed yesterday about minerals in the United States using Wartime Powers Act.
00:30:04.500 Anytime you see Wartime Powers Act, use Peter Navarro's hands in back of it.
00:30:09.580 Another executive order.
00:30:11.380 You talk about terrorism, we get back into Brett.
00:30:13.360 Brett the economist, not Brett the elected politician, because they misplay the tariffs all the time.
00:30:21.480 And this is what's so phony about Bernie.
00:30:24.460 You can't be populist if you're going to be open borders, AOC.
00:30:30.500 Populism has to start with protecting American citizens and American workers, baby.
00:30:35.960 So don't come down here and all the happy talk and all you want is open borders and you support the 10 million illegal alien invaders.
00:30:45.200 You went down Ukraine at the border.
00:30:46.940 You can't rewind this stuff.
00:30:48.240 You can't you can't just look away from that.
00:30:49.780 That's central.
00:30:50.400 Of course, you have to restrict the labor pool so that the whole world can't come and compete against American workers, whether it's HB1 visas or all these visa scams to compete against the tech workers.
00:31:02.480 American citizens on their home soil, when it's a home game, shouldn't have to have the world in their country driving down wages for them.
00:31:15.280 Answer that.
00:31:16.100 Answer that, Bernie.
00:31:16.980 Bernie Sanders used to be one of the toughest guys in immigration ever until you had to play ball with the woke Democratic Party.
00:31:24.300 This is the whole thing.
00:31:25.280 The cultural wokeness.
00:31:26.300 You can't just put a little teeny thing of populist.
00:31:28.720 Oh, the billionaires.
00:31:29.580 You created the billionaires.
00:31:31.340 Let me repeat this.
00:31:34.160 The billionaires and the bailouts.
00:31:35.880 And look, Obama got it dumped on him.
00:31:38.900 He ran as an anti-war populist.
00:31:40.900 OK.
00:31:42.600 The whole lead up and it wasn't just Bush, although they had a huge problem.
00:31:46.500 It was the entire apparatus.
00:31:49.420 Was game for themselves.
00:31:50.700 And when it collapsed, they bailed themselves out.
00:31:52.720 The 2008 collapse, they bailed themselves out.
00:31:56.060 Did you get a bailout?
00:31:56.860 No, you didn't.
00:31:58.880 Most of you or a lot of you got wiped out.
00:32:02.580 But they also simultaneously did a deal in Silicon Valley with the apartheid state or made it even more of an apartheid state than it was to give each one of these nascent oligarchs complete monopolies.
00:32:19.040 That's why Scarborough said we support Lena Kahn.
00:32:22.360 We are neo-Brandeisians.
00:32:24.040 We believe that one of the great dangers in the world is concentration of private and government power.
00:32:30.640 Why?
00:32:31.360 I don't know.
00:32:32.460 We've studied history.
00:32:34.940 This is what the American Revolution was about.
00:32:37.700 The American Revolution was about a group of folks here, probably 20 percent.
00:32:45.360 That had an idea about a worthless landed aristocracy that had corrupted commons with crony capitalism and payoffs, controlled commons.
00:32:58.740 And one of the ways they did it with monopolistic power to give people like the British East India Company.
00:33:05.080 You ever heard of them?
00:33:06.240 The Boston Tea Party?
00:33:07.700 Whose ships were it on?
00:33:09.620 The British East India Company.
00:33:11.500 It was monopolistic, corporate, private, and governmental power.
00:33:20.220 The great, brilliant, and courageous, because remember in the revolutionary generation, they not only called the shot, they played the shot.
00:33:29.900 They stood up and said, hey, we get this.
00:33:34.060 If we're going to break off from this empire, this empire is just at its beginning stages.
00:33:37.580 They're live in what they were doing in India.
00:33:40.320 You had India on the Eurasian southern part of the Asian landmass, and you had all of North America.
00:33:47.760 Because they had already defeated the French and Indian Wars, in which the colonists were all the troops, essentially, a lot of them.
00:33:59.040 Got the first idea of taking over Canada, right?
00:34:03.140 General Washington is a colonel.
00:34:05.600 The French were basically defeated on the Plains of Abraham.
00:34:08.040 It was their deal, the British deal, and they broke off, because the foresight of the revolutionary generation speaks down through the ages to us today.
00:34:18.720 It's the exact same thing.
00:34:20.700 The exact same thing as today.
00:34:28.180 Monopolistic, corporate power tied to government.
00:34:32.580 Tied to an unapproachable government, or a representative government that can be bought off.
00:34:38.660 Commons was bought off.
00:34:39.800 That's why Commons wasn't a solution.
00:34:42.460 And that's what they knew.
00:34:44.400 And they were prepared to risk their lives and to fight an eight-year war to win.
00:34:56.100 And take nothing but defeats, and most of the time, up until the very end.
00:35:04.220 Because it ain't over if you don't quit.
00:35:08.040 It's not over if you don't quit.
00:35:12.820 Our revolutionary generation and the formation of the country teaches us so much about mankind and the frailties of mankind and how you set up a system that can take all the foibles of mankind and have at least try to have as perfect a system as possible.
00:35:29.220 This is what, down through the ages, this is why this country, it's the structure of it, but also how it plays to human nature.
00:35:38.260 And that's where you come in.
00:35:39.660 You are this new revolutionary generation.
00:35:44.600 And I don't care if you're in your 60s or 70s or in your 20s.
00:35:48.460 It's your thinking that's brought it together.
00:35:50.720 Your spirit that's brought it together.
00:35:52.180 And you could see that in 14, in May of June of 14, Donald Trump, this billionaire from Queens in Manhattan, there was this media star up in New Hampshire with these Tea Party people on a Saturday in May.
00:36:06.920 And then the run up to Dave Bratts and just watching all those Tea Party.
00:36:11.600 Dave Bratts, right.
00:36:12.340 Dave Bratts was on fire.
00:36:13.400 He was a man on fire.
00:36:14.880 Nobody picked it up.
00:36:16.520 Politico, the Hill, none of them, none of your betters, none of the geniuses.
00:36:20.820 They all missed it.
00:36:22.460 They all missed it.
00:36:23.700 Except for a young 20-year-old producer who's now Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under, oh, randomly, Scott Besson.
00:36:32.580 Go figure.
00:36:37.740 And Matt Boyle and Tony Lee and some of these, who are players today, some of the smartest people out there saw it.
00:36:45.700 They could see the future in these two people.
00:36:47.840 Not even they themselves, but the converging forces that were coming together of what they represented.
00:36:56.540 And people said the other day when I was talking about the third-term project, baby, don't talk to me about long odds.
00:37:01.620 I've seen the longest odds.
00:37:03.580 If you had told people in May or June of 2014 that eventually Donald Trump would win the presidency three times and serve, at least up until now, two terms.
00:37:17.840 It was idiotic.
00:37:19.260 It was laughable.
00:37:20.120 If you had told that we're going to have a whole populist nationalist revolt and the work in the Republican Party will be looked at at a party talked about by Laura Ingraham through her producer, Julia Hahn, and the prages of Breitbart, which at that time was being accused of shifting and becoming Trump Pravda.
00:37:39.400 We were in the beginning stages of that whole time, and personified by a guy named Dave Bratt, some Austrian economics professor at Randolph-Macon College.
00:37:50.400 Massive things have small starts, and right now I can tell you, when somebody has a track record of seeing through this, I can see exactly what they're doing.
00:38:05.700 They're grafting on because they realize, look at their little sign, oligarchy, oligarchy.
00:38:11.220 They created the oligarchs.
00:38:12.580 They went because all the oligarchs are all progressive Democrats.
00:38:18.140 They're all progressive Democrats, all of them.
00:38:23.280 Remember, this is why they hate Elon so much and apostate.
00:38:26.260 They hate apostates more than ever.
00:38:27.460 Look at the religious history.
00:38:29.300 If you're an apostate man, they come after you.
00:38:31.360 Look what they're doing.
00:38:32.000 They're burning down Tesla dealerships.
00:38:33.520 They're intimidating Tesla.
00:38:35.380 His security, he's got to up the security.
00:38:37.560 They're livid.
00:38:38.080 When you see him out there in the streets, they're freaked out that he was their golden child for years.
00:38:43.840 Trump's first term, we had to kill the EV mandate because there was a huge underwriting of people making $35,000 to guess what?
00:38:52.180 The Sequoia capitals of the world and the Chinese Communist Party and other people are going to be involved in Tesla.
00:39:00.500 But everybody else, Zuckerberg, Bezos, they're super progressive Democrats.
00:39:05.300 They literally hate everything you stand for.
00:39:09.720 Everything, your deepest religious and spiritual convictions, the centerpiece of your life, the values that you want to hand down,
00:39:17.360 that have been handed down to you from generations, from time immemorial to generations still to come, they hate it.
00:39:23.740 They hate it.
00:39:24.480 They despise it.
00:39:25.300 They detest it.
00:39:26.040 And more importantly, they dismiss it.
00:39:28.380 And they were created by the people in the back of the Democratic Party.
00:39:32.480 So, hey, you can put lipstick on that pig all you want.
00:39:35.980 And we will rip it off every day.
00:39:38.340 Because in the core issues of what truly is populism, it's centered around the American citizen and the betterment of this country and its citizens.
00:39:47.980 You are totally and completely phony.
00:39:51.660 Totally, completely phony.
00:39:53.060 Grace Chung, Bill Blaster.
00:39:56.940 We got people got to get up on the ramparts.
00:39:58.940 Two areas.
00:39:59.880 Number one, in Wisconsin.
00:40:02.220 Number two, for these impeachments to get to the Judiciary Committee, you got to get to work.
00:40:07.440 You got to pound them.
00:40:08.200 Because right now, the main line of defense, the holding action on our revolution, the holding action is in the federal courts.
00:40:17.020 The federal courts and these radical neo-Marxists.
00:40:19.920 The same neo-Marxist culture that was in that little arena last night in Tempe, Arizona.
00:40:26.600 Seething with anger.
00:40:29.060 And I'll tell you something.
00:40:29.980 I've said this before.
00:40:31.440 This country is going to have one or two solutions.
00:40:33.420 It's either going to be our solution.
00:40:35.020 We continue to win at the ballot box.
00:40:37.020 And we change Congress.
00:40:38.360 And we change the entire apparatus to get a better deal.
00:40:41.200 What I call a piece of the action for the American worker.
00:40:45.000 Or you're going to have that seething rage, and it's so phony, and right underneath it is violent because they're violent people.
00:40:53.080 They're throwing their toys out of the pram like little two-year-olds.
00:40:57.660 They're going to get violent.
00:40:58.780 They don't get their way.
00:40:59.640 They're going to get violent.
00:41:00.440 You can see they're getting violent right now.
00:41:01.760 Alex Jones, they're on here the other day.
00:41:03.640 Bill Blaster and our free newsletters, all of it, downloading the podcast, giving review, merch, all of it.
00:41:10.800 It's all participatory.
00:41:12.360 Do you know why?
00:41:12.980 Because we are actually Populous Nationalists.
00:41:16.080 Grace, John.
00:41:18.080 Yeah, so let me start with Bill Blaster.
00:41:20.160 It isn't a feel-good app or a side project.
00:41:23.140 Bill Blaster was made by Populous for Populous.
00:41:27.000 It was created as a technical tool for the posse, a way for you guys to take real action with operating leverage in your hands.
00:41:35.700 So this is how you can bypass gatekeepers and go directly to the source.
00:41:40.200 No more playing games with the switchboard.
00:41:42.120 And, yes, I personally put in all the local district office numbers.
00:41:46.880 So download it, use it, let it rip.
00:41:49.600 You can call their D.C. offices and district offices directly.
00:41:54.160 You can also press their contact form because they make it so hard for you to email them.
00:42:00.060 You can easily press that, send them a message that way.
00:42:03.100 You can see recent bills, get real info fast, save your favorite representative so you don't waste time, and most importantly, put the pressure on.
00:42:12.120 So make sure to download it.
00:42:14.140 It's available on Apple and Google.
00:42:16.740 And fire it up and call your representatives.
00:42:21.480 And we need to impeach these judges and really make a statement out there.
00:42:25.540 So, yeah, hang on, hang on.
00:42:29.900 I'm holding you through the break.
00:42:31.700 I'm holding you through the break.
00:42:33.520 Go to Bill Blaster, right?
00:42:35.660 You also go to Article 3 or go to Bill Blaster.
00:42:37.820 When you get to Bill Blaster, get to the Judiciary Committee first and then to your own local guy and say, hey, look, we've got to impeach.
00:42:45.540 We've got to impeach this chief judge of the district court.
00:42:50.400 He's got to go.
00:42:52.140 We have to put him through the process.
00:42:53.720 We're not opining, folks, that he will be removed because, remember, in impeachment, you're impeached in the House.
00:43:00.300 They sent it to the Senate for a trial.
00:43:02.840 President Trump was impeached twice.
00:43:05.880 Both times he was found not guilty in the trial in the Senate.
00:43:10.660 These judges are not going to be removed by the Senate because it's part of the entire political class apparatus that wants to stop President Trump's populist nationalist program.
00:43:24.040 We understand that.
00:43:25.920 But trust the process.
00:43:28.260 Trust the process.
00:43:29.680 Short break.
00:43:30.820 Brett, Grace Chong, Ben Harnwell.
00:43:34.020 We're going to the White House, too.
00:43:35.440 Also, back in a moment.
00:43:37.360 Let's take down the CCP.
00:43:40.420 Let's take down the CCP.
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00:44:57.380 Bannon.
00:44:57.700 Yeah, I'm reminded also, I want to thank the engine room for reminding me.
00:45:04.240 I'm also reminded of, I want to go back to 2014, into May, into that time with Donald Trump.
00:45:10.000 It was really the first time.
00:45:10.800 Trump had spoken at a couple of CPACs, I think one in 13, too, when he came out.
00:45:15.900 It didn't play too well because Rand Paul had the young libertarian kids from the colleges there.
00:45:20.800 And President Trump was not, you know, not kind of where he is today on foreign policy.
00:45:24.980 That was an evolution over time.
00:45:26.540 More so.
00:45:26.980 He was against the Iraq War, but more so today.
00:45:32.840 Non-interventionists and want to negotiate and bring peace, peace to strength.
00:45:37.320 But in 14, he basically, I thought, sent a very clear message, if he could pick that stuff up, at this 2014 Dave Bossie-sponsored cattle call.
00:45:51.000 And there was a report, Jeremy Peters, who works for the New York Times, but is a guy we got to know because he was assigned by the New York Times to cover the conservative movement,
00:46:02.900 particularly the beginning of the Tea Party movement, and particularly the kind of online, and led by the great personality, Andrew Breitbart.
00:46:10.580 And the Times had realized Breitbart was a figure of historical significance early on.
00:46:17.660 So they assigned Jeremy to profile, and Jeremy did very fair profiles of Andrew, and actually tagged along with Andrew and Andrew's crew on and off for years.
00:46:26.900 So cut to 2014, Andrew had passed away in March.
00:46:31.440 Jeremy had been, I think, around since 2009, 2010, that Tea Party, big year of the Tea Party revolt.
00:46:39.560 So in 14, he's actually up in New Hampshire at this, he's one of the young guys that are assigned to, because doing Saturday duty is not the duty you want, right?
00:46:49.280 So he's doing Saturday duty, and actually the New York Times allowed him to be interviewed on Breitbart Radio, which for us was a huge thing, to have somebody from the mainstream media on there.
00:46:58.080 And he knew the movement very well.
00:46:59.560 We're interviewing Jeremy, and he's doing a very good interview and talking about different things.
00:47:07.600 And when he's off, I said, hey, Jeremy, if you hang around, we're going to interview Donald Trump.
00:47:15.480 Mr. Trump's going to come by at Breitbart Radio.
00:47:17.280 We're actually going to interview him right here.
00:47:18.560 And the reason was, the MSNBC, CNN, even Fox wouldn't interview Trump.
00:47:26.660 No interviews, because they didn't take him seriously.
00:47:29.980 They thought he was up there just for the apprentice.
00:47:32.160 Jeremy looks, and Jeremy says, Steve, there's only one way I think I could get fired by the New York Times.
00:47:36.260 That's if I interviewed Donald Trump.
00:47:37.960 And I go, what are you talking about?
00:47:39.600 Didn't you see?
00:47:40.320 This is the one that really resonated with people.
00:47:42.460 He said, nobody takes it seriously.
00:47:45.020 He says, my editors definitely don't take it serious.
00:47:46.800 I think it's all just Donald Trump performance, performance art.
00:47:51.000 And Trump came and gave just an incredible interview.
00:47:56.320 And I remember Matt Bull and Tony Lee and the entire crew were just people.
00:47:59.760 They were just people were pumped up because he didn't speak in a political vernacular.
00:48:05.880 He talked in a way that actually resonated right and boom, hitching the solar plexus.
00:48:13.180 That's Trump's ability to connect to a mass audience, which is unique.
00:48:19.000 But there, you can start to see the beginning of it.
00:48:21.980 That was in May of 14.
00:48:23.800 And six weeks later, Dave Brett beats Eric Cantor in political history.
00:48:28.220 The arc of political history for the Republican Party, that was the beginning of the change.
00:48:33.760 It started with the Tea Party.
00:48:34.880 But the Tea Party had many different elements.
00:48:36.660 You can see it start to come together there and have elective, really have power to win at the ballot box.
00:48:43.780 Grace Chung, I want to make sure everybody has got these tools that you've developed and we've developed to make life easier for people,
00:48:50.600 particularly now that in the next couple of weeks with both what's happening in Wisconsin and particularly with these judges.
00:48:56.100 We have to get on top of these judges because this is the way they put out another.
00:49:02.260 They took Elon, these guys off the Social Security case with 130 page, you know, opinion of a judge to stop things, slow it down until they come back.
00:49:13.400 So they're grinding us to a halt on every front.
00:49:16.620 I haven't seen yet, but I know last night we were told that they're filing on the Department of Education.
00:49:23.620 That's all to come.
00:49:24.440 Everything you saw yesterday, President Trump's, you know, taking it down to the deck plates like he's taking USAID to the deck plates,
00:49:31.580 taking all these to the deck plates so that statutorily they're still there, but they're essentially non-functioning.
00:49:38.020 That's all being challenged and they're going to challenge the Department.
00:49:40.800 Everything President Trump's doing is being challenged and, of course, to slow us down.
00:49:44.000 At the same time, they try to gin up this phony populist alternative.
00:49:49.500 And here's the thing, also talking about the engine room is that, remember, the oligarchs detest you.
00:49:56.320 They detest everything you stand for, everything you stand for.
00:50:00.220 But they also, culturally, they are aligned with kind of the progressive element, but they also detest those working class people on the left.
00:50:09.720 They detest them, too.
00:50:10.660 So don't think that they love them.
00:50:14.200 That's why this is being manipulated.
00:50:15.980 This is why the credential class is still in charge of the Democratic Party with the billionaires in back of them.
00:50:21.020 It's still the credential class.
00:50:22.800 AOC, remember, she got the job because she came to a gig and she was kind of selected by people who are looking for the perfect hand.
00:50:27.820 She says, oh, I had my awakening.
00:50:29.340 I'm working to shift to the bar.
00:50:31.300 I see Bernie Sanders.
00:50:31.980 That was part of it.
00:50:33.340 But that got her to basically the actor's call, right, the audition.
00:50:38.920 Would she audition?
00:50:39.760 She's still auditioning.
00:50:41.420 Grace Chung, Bill Blaster, one more time.
00:50:45.260 Where do people go?
00:50:46.180 Because this weekend is a perfect time to download it and learn how to operate it.
00:50:49.900 If you've got a question, come back to Grace.
00:50:51.620 But what do people do on Bill Blaster?
00:50:54.240 So it's available in the Apple and Google Play Store or BillBlasterApp.org.
00:51:00.540 You can download it from there.
00:51:02.140 And just like you said, Steve, you have to trust the process.
00:51:05.240 And the process is the impeachment in the House, which will send a message to the judges.
00:51:10.780 So we need the posse to really fire up Bill Blaster or Article 3 and reach out to your representatives.
00:51:18.120 And I know you guys can do it.
00:51:19.480 We've done it before.
00:51:20.480 This is our forte.
00:51:22.200 So make sure to download Bill Blaster.
00:51:26.640 Yeah, this is, by the way, this is not a long shot.
00:51:29.240 But they have many different other aspects they're looking at for these judges.
00:51:33.300 And they're going to try to have misdirection plays.
00:51:35.140 Look, a guy like Mike Davis, who is a fighter, or Julie Kelly, who had been deeply involved in this.
00:51:40.740 Davis went out of his way to say we should comply with all what the judges say as we go up to the Supreme Court.
00:51:47.280 His thing is now he doesn't think we should comply in this situation as commander-in-chief with the criminal terrorists from Venezuela.
00:51:56.620 And he also thinks that this has now hit a tripwire where you have to go next level.
00:52:02.180 This is a process, and we have to send a signal.
00:52:05.000 Otherwise, I'm telling you, you can see they're going to inundate everything President Trump does.
00:52:10.840 They're going to inundate immediately into a federal court and venue shop to the most progressive of these neo-Marxist judges.
00:52:19.760 We're full-on political warfare.
00:52:22.440 And you have a judicial insurrection that's leading to a judicial coup.
00:52:28.520 So use your Bill Blaster.
00:52:30.300 Grace is going to hang around.
00:52:31.540 Dave Brat's going to hang around.
00:52:32.800 Ben Harnwell's going to hang around.
00:52:34.140 We're going to the White House.
00:52:35.800 Pete Hexas is going to be in the Oval.
00:52:37.460 We're going to figure it all out in the second hour of the Morning Show of the World.
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