Bannon's War Room - Episode 4363： Senate Intelligence Committee On World Wide Threats Not A Search For Truth Cont.

00:00:00.000 in which classified information was shared using phones that weren't cleared for such

00:00:05.040 information. Question for the two of you. Senator, thank you for the question. I haven't,

00:00:11.040 your question was, have I participated in any other group chats sharing classified information?

00:00:17.040 To be clear, I haven't participated in any signal group messaging that relates to any classified

00:00:24.240 information at all. Okay. Director Gabbard. Senator, I have the same answer. I have not

00:00:30.240 participated in any signal group chat or any other chat on another app that contained any classified

00:00:35.840 information. Yeah, and I just think it's important to follow through here. Would the two of you

00:00:41.280 cooperate with an audit to confirm that that is not that is the case?

00:00:47.920 I have no objection. Senator, I'll certainly comply with any follow-up that

00:00:53.920 the National Security Council would deem appropriate. But again, to be clear,

00:00:59.360 the use of signal message and encryption applications is permissible and was, in this case,

00:01:08.880 used permissibly, at least to my understanding and in a lawful manner. The seriousness of this is so

00:01:17.600 clear. That's why I want to have an audit and both of you gave me an answer indicating that you would be

00:01:23.040 open to that and I appreciate it. Director Patel, you weren't in this particular group chat, but have

00:01:27.920 you participated in any chats on unclassified phones with other administration officials relating to

00:01:33.520 national security? And if so, on what other topics? Thank you. Thank you for your question, Senator,

00:01:40.160 and not that I can recall. Okay. Question I have for you, Director Gabbard, involves this question of

00:01:48.320 Elon Musk wasn't going to see the military's China war plans because he said he, quote, has business

00:01:54.480 in China and he would be susceptible perhaps to that. That was his comment. So as DNI, you're responsible 0.88

00:02:01.040 for security clearance policies across the government. Under your watch, how are you going to go about

00:02:07.200 carrying out this obligation? Because I think it obviously is a very significant one in terms of

00:02:12.560 American national security. Thank you, Senator. As you know, the Office of the Director of National

00:02:18.400 Intelligence provides oversight over these different 18 intelligence elements. Leaders within those

00:02:25.040 elements are empowered with that responsibility to uphold the trust that the American people have

00:02:29.760 placed in them. In this example that you cited, both Secretary Hegseth as well as President Trump

00:02:35.760 completely denied the assertion that Elon Musk was going to receive any kind of classified war plan brief

00:02:47.600 pertaining to China or any other country. So on the question of whether the president has the prerogative

00:02:55.200 to get clearances is really the area that I want to touch on because you're formally responsible for

00:03:01.120 security clearance policies and that's why I'm asking about about it. So can a president decide who gets

00:03:09.120 the clearance? Yes. So what about your role? You're formally responsible for security clearance policies.

00:03:15.840 That is also true. So how do we resolve it? President just gets his way. The elected president and

00:03:23.440 commander-in-chief has the authority to provide a security clearance to those who he deems necessary.

00:03:28.560 Mr. Chairman and to the ranking member, I think we have to have a further discussion on this and figure

00:03:35.040 out what the ground rules, you know, are. I think it's clear what the director says. I just think we

00:03:41.920 need more clarity because I think you have the formal responsibility for security clearances and now

00:03:47.440 we've heard that this somehow is going to be the president's project and I think we ought to have

00:03:52.560 further discussions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Lankford.

00:03:57.040 Mr. Chairman, thank you. Thank you to all of you, your service to the country.

00:04:02.480 It matters. There are a lot of countries, there are a lot of citizens of our country right now

00:04:06.960 that have- I'll be blunt. After Lankford's, all Lankford's lies regarding the ridiculous bill he put 0.78

00:04:14.960 for it on immigration, which we know Jack Posobiec was a total and complete lie because President

00:04:22.000 Trump secured the border in 40 days. Right there, Jack, so help me out here. Tulsi Gabbard starts

00:04:30.320 by taking a hard line, a line that I believe is absolutely appropriate. This is for the commander-in-chief

00:04:36.400 and President Trump to figure this out. These cheap shots taken by guys like Warner and Wyden,

00:04:47.040 the senator from Oregon, you know, they can ask questions, but it doesn't mean you have to sit

00:04:54.960 there, particularly if you're- and we already know, I think the White House counsel or others

00:04:59.840 has been reported so far today are looking into this. And Tulsi says at the beginning that they're

00:05:05.600 looking into this, and she has nothing further to say. I don't know why they're going back and

00:05:09.520 forth and actually now starting to answer questions. Maybe I'm missing it, but I think

00:05:13.200 that breaks the hard line. You take a hard line, you dig in and take a hard line. Am I wrong in that,

00:05:19.120 Jack Posobiec? I mean, look, you can do that. You can even respond in various ways, and I understand

00:05:26.080 they're doing so in terms of their representatives of the national security team as well as the highest

00:05:32.240 intelligence officers in the country. But, you know, I also remember, by the way, when Mark Werner

00:05:37.440 was leaking the details of the dossier investigation back in 2017 to Russian oligarch

00:05:44.160 Oleg Deripaska. I remember when he was running around doing that. I remember when this guy was

00:05:49.440 totally fine with the Chinese going and buying all the Venezuelan oil, which was helping Maduro and

00:05:55.680 helping him to be able to block the, you know, President Trump's migrant flights that are going on 0.55

00:06:00.080 right now and all the insanity. So, you know, there's plenty of ways that we can point out that

00:06:04.080 Warner has done the same thing. But at the end of the day, look, at the end of the day, it's simple.

00:06:07.840 You take the hard line, you maintain the hard line. This is already under investigation. You

00:06:12.880 don't need to submit to an audit because there already is an audit. The audit's already coming

00:06:16.960 down. It's from the top down at the National Security Council level and from the White House

00:06:20.560 Council. And you don't need to tell Wyden and these guys. And Wyden started off, we were coming

00:06:27.200 at a commercial break and I really want to thank Real America's Voice for cutting the break and

00:06:30.560 going right to Wyden when he started talking. Wyden, I think, started his comments by saying,

00:06:33.920 hey, he's calling for the resignation of the National Security Advisor. The Democrats,

00:06:39.520 they're not here to help. They're not here to assist the nation. They're here, once again,

00:06:45.280 you have the judicial insurrection and you have now the deep state in the intelligence community.

00:06:50.880 They're loving this. They're loving this because their two biggest weapons are not their political

00:06:56.160 weapon. They're kind of feckless, as you know, on the political side. They have the courts and they 0.98

00:07:01.120 have the deep state. And now they're going to put President Trump under a pincer roof.

00:07:05.440 As we've been talking, Jack, over at the, both coming out of the House conference and Jim Jordan

00:07:12.800 are both saying, Scalise and Jim Jordan are talking about actually in the appropriations,

00:07:18.880 dramatically cutting, and Johnson, Speaker Johnson came up too, dramatically cutting the courts. In fact,

00:07:24.160 they're talking about cutting out maybe one entire district of the federal court system

00:07:28.720 for just cut off the funding. My point, they're playing hardball, right? They've called for,

00:07:35.360 I think, a hearing this week. There are a couple of judges up there, not on impeachment,

00:07:39.680 but to maybe start the process and hear from some of these judges. They're talking about cutting the

00:07:43.600 budget. So on the judicial side, and President Trump threw down last night. Can you explain the state

00:07:49.600 secrets what Pam Bondi in the White House did last night about this one judge? And we will go back

00:07:55.280 as soon as we get another cheap shot question here. Steve, the concept is simple. The concept is

00:08:03.920 that these state secrets were put out in open court. And when you put out something in open court,

00:08:08.880 it makes it a public document. It is accessible. You don't even need to avoid it. It is already public.

00:08:14.800 That's the whole point of the court system is that it's supposed to be done in public. By the way,

00:08:18.720 this is one of the reasons that I totally support video cameras in all federal courthouses. It's

00:08:24.000 ridiculous that we don't have this. We absolutely should have it to be able to monitor the conduct

00:08:28.480 of these people. And we do need to have checks and balances. And that's why I love the fact that

00:08:33.440 the legislature is finally bringing up their own power and taking up the reins of this without allowing

00:08:39.680 this unelected bureaucracy to maintain so much power. And that's exactly what Stephen Miller was talking

00:08:44.240 about last week. Look, the fact that it was an open court, an open forum, that is fundamentally

00:08:50.400 different than having a closed discussion between government leaders, which, yes, of course,

00:08:55.600 they allowed someone in, which they shouldn't have. That is fundamentally different. You put

00:08:59.360 something out in court that means everyone in public can access to this thing if it is not done

00:09:04.240 under seal. That's a huge reason, a blinking red flag that Pam Bondi absolutely has to look after. And by 1.00

00:09:10.880 the way, these judges, they don't have full immunity, right? They don't have full immunity from,

00:09:14.960 remember, no one is above the law. Remember that? No one is above the law. So we need to look at all

00:09:19.200 of these procedures. If they want to play hardball, we could play hardball all day long when it comes

00:09:24.640 to the conduct of these judges, when it comes to the purse, when it comes to the budget strings,

00:09:28.800 we're going to look at every single piece of it.

00:09:32.960 Okay. We're going to cut right to the question right now. They're asking the question.

00:09:40.960 Actually, did you just determine it was not classified or was there any

00:09:44.880 declassification after the fact?

00:09:46.880 So to be clear, so everyone understands the process, as we talked about, Signal is a permissible

00:09:53.360 use. I understand that.

00:09:55.200 The CIA has been approved by the White House for senior officials.

00:09:59.360 And appropriate for many conversations.

00:10:01.680 And recommended by CISA for high-level officials who would be targeted by foreign adversaries

00:10:08.160 to use end-to-end encrypted apps whenever possible, like Signal. In this case,

00:10:14.560 what the national security advisor did was to request, through a signal message,

00:10:24.240 that there be coordination. So you mentioned the name of a CIA active officer, correct?

00:10:33.280 I didn't mention the name.

00:10:35.440 You didn't mention the name.

00:10:36.640 I mentioned the existence of that.

00:10:37.680 And in the article, the implication was that somehow that was improper. That was not the case.

00:10:42.960 So a CIA officer was not operating undercover.

00:10:46.480 So the request for coordination was for a staff member to coordinate on the high side.

00:10:52.480 So I communicated the name of a CIA officer not operating undercover, completely appropriate,

00:10:59.760 who does openly and routinely coordinate with the White House as a member of my staff.

00:11:06.560 So the intimation there that there was something inappropriate was clearly incorrect.

00:11:11.040 Director, did it occur to you that, given the sensitive nature of this discussion,

00:11:16.720 that it could just move to the high side?

00:11:19.280 So that was clearly, Senator, I think the intent was that this was initially set up by the national

00:11:29.760 security advisor with the instruction that send a point of contact and then you will be

00:11:36.880 provided with information further on the high side for high side communication. So I think

00:11:41.440 clearly it reflects that the national security advisor intended this to be, as it should have been,

00:11:47.280 a mechanism for coordinating between senior level officials, but not a substitute for using high

00:11:53.920 side or classified communications for anything that would be classified. And I think that that is

00:11:59.920 exactly what did happen.

00:12:01.040 So I'm curious, did this conversation at some point include information on weapons packages,

00:12:09.520 targets, or timing?

00:12:10.880 Not that I'm aware of.

00:12:13.440 Director Gabbard, same question.

00:12:17.760 Same answer and defer to the Department of Defense on that question.

00:12:23.520 Well, those are two different answers, but you're saying that did not, that was not part of

00:12:29.920 the conversation. That's my knowledge.

00:12:30.960 The precise operational issues were not part of this conversation.

00:12:34.480 Correct.

00:12:34.880 Okay. I want to ask you, Director Gabbard,

00:12:42.720 something on a very different track here, which is,

00:12:45.280 is I very much agree with the conclusion of the ATA that foreign illicit drug actors are a major

00:12:54.080 threat in the United States. And many of you have spoken to this today.

00:12:58.240 Okay. Jack, we're going to take a, we're going to go to commercial break in a second,

00:13:02.240 but I want your summary. I don't understand. And I realize we're doing this in real time.

00:13:06.560 If you're going to take a hard line, you take a hard line. There's supposedly the White House

00:13:09.760 counselor, somebody's looking into this. There's no, and I don't understand why Ratcliffe's getting

00:13:15.200 into this kind of detail back and forth with these guys. They're not here. The Democrats

00:13:19.760 here are not to illuminate. They've already said, they already said they want the national

00:13:24.480 security advisor to resign. The whole Democrat left-wing media is all over this. I don't know

00:13:29.760 why, and I don't understand why there's not coordination between in the White House, between

00:13:36.000 the direct central CIA and Tulsi Gabbard. And my belief is that for right now, while this thing

00:13:43.760 kind of, you know, it's playing out and people at the White House are kind of working through it,

00:13:48.560 why you have Ratcliffe going into chapter and verse and trying to explain this, they're not

00:13:53.440 interested in an explanation. They're interested in taking down the commander in chief, the president

00:13:58.720 of the United States. And somebody's got to get savvy over there on this topic. This is,

00:14:02.960 they're not there to illuminate and help the American people think this thing through. Jack

00:14:07.200 Posovic.

00:14:09.760 I mean, look, Steve, this is every, when you're in a communications environment like this, which

00:14:16.480 is politically fraught from a strategic level, every time that someone gives a different message

00:14:22.400 than the main message, the White House level down, this is under investigation. This is under

00:14:28.220 investigation. But when someone goes into business for themselves, it starts putting out a

00:14:32.800 different message, giving additional information, pushing back or giving anything out. Now you're

00:14:38.720 creating more challenges for either members of the White House team, members of various other

00:14:44.800 teams that, you know, communications teams and security teams that are involved in all of this.

00:14:48.880 And you're giving them avenues of attack to come down. Look, it's very simple to explain what's

00:14:54.640 going on here. Democrats have politicized this. That's what Warner's doing. That's what Wyden's doing.

00:14:59.760 And they have politicized this. They're not. And you could easily say, look, if you want more

00:15:04.400 information, let's talk about it in a classified setting. You're trying to get me to leak classified

00:15:08.320 information in an open setting right now.

00:15:11.760 It's time to move on. These people, there's a war going on that President Trump's trying to stop.

00:15:16.960 This is a senior intelligence advisor. It's time to move on. Right. And you move on not by playing ball

00:15:23.040 with these guys. It's ridiculous. This is just to all drive the news cycle. Stupid. 0.99

00:15:29.520 OK, short commercial break. We're going to be back in a moment to this hearing. 1.00

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00:16:58.880 Thank you, Senator. With my background in FISA and 702, I just want to clearly delineate between FISA

00:17:08.080 Title 1-3 and 702 collection. We need to both ardently defend its use, but also ardently support

00:17:16.480 reforms that allow the American public to entrust that those charged with those capabilities are not

00:17:22.720 violating the Fourth Amendment or any other violation. Speaking to Title 1, Title 3, when it comes to U.S.

00:17:28.160 persons, I have already included an amendment in terms of FBI language to make sure that when a

00:17:33.680 U.S. person is targeted that the FBI specifically is responsible for culling through all exculpatory

00:17:41.520 information that is reasonably known and satisfying that burden and stating it in the application.

00:17:46.880 When it comes to 702, Senator, some of the biggest enterprise efforts we have had to thwart national

00:17:55.920 security risk would not have occurred if 702 collection had gone dark. And the FBI continues to use that

00:18:03.040 information to protect the homeland. We've had multiple takedowns in the last six months based on 702 and

00:18:09.200 interagency collection processes. But we just need to ensure the American public, and I'm working with

00:18:13.440 my team, that even in the 702 sphere, American citizens' information is protected.

00:18:18.640 Thank you all. I look forward to the discussion in the closed session.

00:18:21.680 Senator King.

00:18:22.720 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Director Gabbard, I didn't intend to get into the Jeffrey Goldberg story, but

00:18:31.440 something you said has sort of puzzled me. According to open source reporting at 1144 on the morning of

00:18:39.440 March 15th, Secretary Hedsef put into this group text a detailed operation plan including targets,

00:18:49.200 the weapons we were going to be using, attack sequences, and timing. And yet you've testified that

00:18:55.920 nothing in that chain was classified. Wouldn't that be classified? What if that had been

00:19:02.720 made public that morning before the attack took place?

00:19:08.560 Senator, I can attest to the fact that there were no classified or intelligence equities

00:19:13.840 that were included in that chat group at any time.

00:19:16.400 So the attack sequencing and timing and weapons and targets you don't consider to should have been

00:19:23.200 classified? I deferred to the Secretary of Defense and the National Security Council on that question.

00:19:28.160 Well, you're the head of the intelligence community and you're supposed to know about

00:19:32.720 classifications. So your testimony very clearly today is that nothing was in that

00:19:37.440 set of texts that were classified. I'll follow up on Senator Wyden's question. If that's the case,

00:19:42.800 please release that whole text stream so that the public can have a view of what actually transpired

00:19:49.600 on this discussion. It's hard for me to believe that targets and timing and weapons would not have

00:19:57.120 been classified. Well, let me move on. You approved this report, this annual report prepared by the

00:20:04.560 Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Is this submitted to the White House routinely in

00:20:11.520 anticipation of its public release?

00:20:13.280 I don't know what you mean by submitted routinely.

00:20:17.200 Was it, well, was it, was this report submitted to the White House before it's released today?

00:20:23.600 It was submitted to them once it was completed.

00:20:27.200 I think probably around the same time it was sent to all of you.

00:20:32.560 I want to move on one note that surprised me. I've been on this committee now for,

00:20:37.680 this is my 13th year. Every single one of these reports that we have had

00:20:42.240 has mentioned global climate change as a significant national security threat, except this one.

00:20:49.200 Has something happened? Has global climate change been solved?

00:20:53.920 Why, why is that not in this report? And did, who made the decision that it should not be in the report

00:20:59.760 when it's been every, in every one of the 11 prior reports?

00:21:02.800 I can't speak to the decisions made previously, but this annual threat assessment has been focused

00:21:09.520 very directly on the threats that we deem most critical to the United States and our national security.

00:21:15.760 Obviously, we're aware of occurrences within the environment and how they may impact operations,

00:21:22.800 but we're focused on the direct threats to Americans' safety, well-being, and security.

00:21:28.080 How about how they will impact mass migration, famine, dislocation, political violence,

00:21:34.080 which is the finding, by the way, of the 2019 annual threat assessment under the first

00:21:40.160 Trump administration? Do you don't consider that a significant national security threat?

00:21:46.080 For the intelligence community, being aware of the environment that we're operating in

00:21:50.720 is a given. What I focused this annual threat assessment on and the IC focused this threat

00:21:56.640 assessment on are the most extreme and critical direct threats to our national security.

00:22:01.360 Let me ask a direct question. Who decided

00:22:03.920 climate change should be left out of this report after it's been in the prior 11?

00:22:08.560 Where was that decision? I gave direction to

00:22:12.000 our team at ODNI to focus on the most extreme and critical national security threats that we face.

00:22:17.680 Did your direction include no comments on climate change?

00:22:22.480 Senator, as I said, I focused on the most extreme and direct national security threats

00:22:26.400 That's not a response to my question. Did you instruct that there be no

00:22:31.520 there no finding in terms of climate change in this report?

00:22:34.800 I don't recall giving that instruction.

00:22:39.360 Final questions in a few short seconds that I have left.

00:22:43.520 You all concede and it's in the report repeatedly about the cyber danger from China, from Russia, from Iran.

00:22:51.600 Why then is the administration deconstructing CISA? 130 people fired. The

00:22:58.480 General Hawk talked about the importance of public-private cooperation. That section of CISA seems to have been disestablished.

00:23:05.520 What possible policy reason is there for undermining CISA's

00:23:10.960 relationship to the states with regard to elections and to the private sector with regard to cyber security when the cyber security threat is only growing?

00:23:22.480 Anybody want to tackle that?

00:23:23.840 I won't speak for all of my colleagues here,

00:23:27.440 but I don't believe any of us have any insight into those specific staffing decisions that have been made.

00:23:32.160 Well, let me ask you this question. You've all found that the report has found explicitly

00:23:37.520 growing cyber threats including two elections from Russia, China, Iran.

00:23:42.320 Do you believe that it's in the national interest to diminish our capacity to deal with those cyber issues? Yes or no?

00:23:52.560 President Trump is focused on effects

00:23:55.920 and making sure that the people that we have and the resources that we have are focused on our national security.

00:24:01.920 He and his team recognize that more people doesn't necessarily always mean better effects.

00:24:08.080 Those are some of the things that are driving the changes that we're seeing across the administration

00:24:12.400 is getting all of our agencies back and focus on their core mission.

00:24:17.360 General Hawk, do you agree that...

00:24:19.280 Senator King, your time is expired.

00:24:20.560 Time is up. Thank you.

00:24:22.240 Senator Rounds.

00:24:23.440 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, thank you to all of you for your service to our country.

00:24:27.760 With regard to the issues surrounding...

00:24:29.200 Let me bring Jack Bosovic back in.

00:24:32.160 Very interesting on CISA and climate change right there, Jack.

00:24:36.080 But let's go back to the...

00:24:38.080 They've already announced they're going to go to a closed door.

00:24:40.960 When they say closed door, that means the classified part of this where they can get into it deeper.

00:24:44.480 Jack Bosovic, as we know, most of the action takes place behind closed doors

00:24:49.840 when they're asking, they can get, they can ask classified questions or information.

00:24:55.760 They can ask questions about classified information and get it.

00:24:58.400 All these senators are essentially cleared at a pretty high level of classification.

00:25:04.720 Once again, and you see Angus King, what they're going to try to do is pick this apart.

00:25:11.440 If you don't take a hard line and just say, hey, we got business we're taking care of.

00:25:16.000 This is already being reviewed by the White House Council of the White House.

00:25:18.480 Check in with them.

00:25:19.760 You take a hard line, then you move about your business.

00:25:22.480 And the business at hand is providing the intelligence to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War.

00:25:29.120 These guys are fully occupied, right?

00:25:31.440 And so in anything you do, and particularly, you know, I'm not trying to be on John Radcliffe's case,

00:25:36.720 but the more that you are chatty, the more you're just opening up these guys are trying to pick it apart.

00:25:43.160 They're going to try to, you know, get to every verb, every pronoun you're using, pick it apart.

00:25:48.200 And then the jackals in the media will turn it up and I'll be blunt.

00:25:52.960 They've made Jeffrey Goldberg now a central part of the story.

00:25:56.360 He doesn't have to be.

00:25:57.380 He somehow got involved in this chain.

00:26:00.740 If you don't have this debate publicly about whether it's classified information or not, you keep him off to the sidelines.

00:26:09.460 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, you've made him a centerpiece, and that's what King and Wyden are teeing up.

00:26:14.680 You see the tee-up they're doing for the rest of the day to be a firestorm in the media and to try to make a mountain of a molehill here, sir.

00:26:23.060 Think about it.

00:26:23.880 Jeff Goldberg has been the center of so many of the psyops that we've seen before. 0.99

00:26:27.980 He was at the center of suckers and losers. 0.99

00:26:30.300 This was the guy that they ran with suckers and losers hoax. 0.99

00:26:33.800 He's been the center of the Russiagate dossiers, the center of the Iraq War architect and cheerleader. 0.98

00:26:38.740 So why was it that Jeff Goldberg – think about this.

00:26:42.080 You mean to tell me this wasn't coordinated, that he didn't get with the staff of the SSCI, the Democrat staff of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and say, hey, guys, I've got this thing.

00:26:51.720 It's going to drop the day before.

00:26:53.420 I'm going to hold it to the date.

00:26:54.480 Remember, this is a pre-scheduled hearing.

00:26:55.940 Pre-scheduled hearing.

00:26:56.920 So if you don't think this is a coordinated operation, then you have not been paying attention to the last eight years.

00:27:02.220 This is what they do.

00:27:03.260 They work with their allies.

00:27:04.500 They're able to get their leaks out.

00:27:06.060 They're able to coordinate all of this stuff.

00:27:07.720 So the fact that he holds the whole thing – this wasn't yesterday that he got this.

00:27:12.420 He held it all the way up until the very day before the hearing, drops the bomb when he does yesterday afternoon, blows up the whole thing, doesn't give people much time to respond, and then boom, here we are in the hearing itself.

00:27:25.540 Look, this whole thing stinks. 0.72

00:27:27.540 It stinks to high heaven.

00:27:28.960 I've got potentially even more questions about, okay, so if this thing was a signal chat on government, let's play that game, Steve.

00:27:36.540 If this was loaded onto government computers, who all has access to be able to add people into these signal chats?

00:27:43.280 Who all has access on a server level to be able to see those messages?

00:27:47.940 We actually need to start asking questions because I remember there were Venmans in the ointment last time around, and there may be Venmans in the ointment. 0.97

00:27:56.360 Here again, all of a sudden, it's Jeff Goldberg of all people who gets added.

00:28:01.080 Come on, man. 0.98

00:28:01.560 This thing stinks. 0.92

00:28:03.400 Okay. 0.96

00:28:04.280 This is why I said there's no coincidence at the top of this.

00:28:07.560 This whole thing was planned.

00:28:08.820 The leak was planned.

00:28:09.620 The timing.

00:28:10.060 This all happened on the 15th of March.

00:28:12.080 Jack Posobiec is absolutely stone cold right.

00:28:15.100 This was put out yesterday because they knew they had a pre-scheduled hearing today on the annual report of threats, and they're going to use this.

00:28:23.820 This is why you take a hard line.

00:28:26.300 And you don't play their game.

00:28:28.000 They're not here to, like, get information to help the nation.

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00:31:36.760 National Security Advisor invited him to join the signal threat.

00:31:44.140 Everybody in America knows that.

00:31:45.740 Does the CIA director not know that?

00:31:48.060 I've seen conflicting reports about who added the reporter to the signal messaging group.

00:31:56.040 Is it perfectly appropriate that there was a reporter added, especially one that the Secretary of Defense says is deceitful, highly discredited, a so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes over and over again?

00:32:11.400 Is your testimony that it was appropriate that he was added to this signal threat?

00:32:17.020 No, of course not.

00:32:17.940 Why did you not call?

00:32:20.160 Hold on, Senator.

00:32:21.000 You're mischaracterizing my testimony.

00:32:23.880 You answered the question.

00:32:26.220 Let me ask you.

00:32:27.460 When he was added to the thread, you're the CIA director.

00:32:31.640 Why didn't you call out that he was present on the signal thread?

00:32:37.360 I don't know if you use signal messaging app.

00:32:40.140 I do.

00:32:40.900 I do.

00:32:41.380 Not for classified information.

00:32:43.620 Not for targeting.

00:32:44.780 Well, neither do I, Senator.

00:32:45.800 Not for anything remote.

00:32:46.320 Neither do I, Senator.

00:32:47.080 Well, that's what your testimony is today.

00:32:49.520 It absolutely is not, Senator.

00:32:51.500 Were you not listening at the beginning?

00:32:53.400 No.

00:32:53.680 When I said that I was using it as permitted, it is permissible to use.

00:32:58.660 I agree that's your testimony.

00:32:59.800 Yeah.

00:33:00.080 I agree that's your testimony.

00:33:01.240 You asked me if I use it, and I said not for targeting, not for classified information.

00:33:06.660 And I said I don't either.

00:33:08.200 I also know Jeff Goldberg.

00:33:10.340 I don't use it to communicate with him.

00:33:14.380 But you thought it was appropriate.

00:33:16.940 By the way, I think he's one of the more outstanding journalists in America.

00:33:21.020 But I'm shocked to find him on a thread that he's reading in the parking lot of a grocery store in Washington, D.C.

00:33:28.580 And your testimony as the director of the CIA is that it's totally appropriate.

00:33:34.060 Is it appropriate?

00:33:34.900 No, Director, that is not what I—

00:33:38.140 When did I say it was—

00:33:39.460 When did I use the word appropriate?

00:33:41.400 Well, go ahead, please.

00:33:43.120 Well, I didn't.

00:33:43.900 That—everybody in America—

00:33:46.060 So, clearly, Senator—

00:33:46.540 There's nothing to see here is what your testimony is.

00:33:49.160 No, I never said that.

00:33:50.020 This is just a normal day at the CIA where we chat about this kind of stuff over Signal.

00:33:55.880 In fact, it's so normal that the last administration left it here for us.

00:34:00.460 That's your testimony today.

00:34:02.800 That's your testimony, Senator.

00:34:04.740 No, that's not my testimony.

00:34:05.960 That's what you said.

00:34:06.480 I didn't say any of those things that you just related, Senator.

00:34:09.020 I heard you say it.

00:34:09.920 We'll let the American people decide.

00:34:11.420 Let me ask you one final point.

00:34:12.940 I'm out of time.

00:34:13.940 Well, I think you mischaracterized it.

00:34:14.260 Well, are you going to give me a chance to—

00:34:15.240 Is it appropriate?

00:34:16.180 Did you know that the president's Middle East advisor was in Moscow on this thread while you were, as director of the CIA, participating in this thread?

00:34:31.340 Were you aware of that?

00:34:33.260 Are you aware of that today?

00:34:36.120 I'm not aware of that today.

00:34:37.480 This sloppiness, this incompetence, this disrespect for our intelligence agencies and the personnel who work for them is entirely unacceptable.

00:34:49.120 It's an embarrassment.

00:34:52.080 Senator, you need to do better.

00:34:54.680 You need to do better.

00:34:55.880 Thank you.

00:34:57.340 I'm being gaveled by the chairman, and I apologize for going over my time.

00:35:02.300 Senator Young.

00:35:05.620 Thank you all for being here.

00:35:07.200 Let me have it.

00:35:08.780 Okay.

00:35:09.660 Okay.

00:35:10.380 Posovic, this is why I said at the beginning, you take a hard line and say it's being investigated.

00:35:16.620 You don't open yourself up.

00:35:17.800 This is—hang on.

00:35:19.460 Radcliffe, in trying to be the explanation, that's Michael Bennett of Colorado.

00:35:24.360 And Michael Bennett is a very skilled guy coming in and taking a cheap shot.

00:35:28.260 And right there, you can see the whole news cycle.

00:35:30.220 And this is—let me be blunt.

00:35:32.620 If you're going to take on the deep state, you've got to take them on.

00:35:35.240 There's no half measures here.

00:35:37.280 The deep state is this apparatus of the intelligence community, the law enforcement community.

00:35:42.680 You've got people in DOD.

00:35:44.480 You've got Brennan and all these jackals on the outside.

00:35:46.480 You have to be rock hard.

00:35:48.680 And I mean rock hard.

00:35:50.940 Bennett came in for the kill because Radcliffe had set himself up in the opening thing by getting chatty.

00:35:58.440 These hearings are not to be chatty.

00:36:00.900 They are not a search for truth.

00:36:03.660 They are not a search for truth.

00:36:07.320 They're there to use this as political information warfare.

00:36:13.220 And this was amateurish of the director of the CIA.

00:36:16.120 He should have never gotten into that discussion.

00:36:18.220 I said at the very beginning.

00:36:19.360 And Michael Bennett, who's a smart guy and a tough guy and a guy that you can't trust, came in for the kill because Radcliffe set him up.

00:36:27.980 And look at Radcliffe's response right there.

00:36:30.120 Jack Posobiec.

00:36:30.760 And Posobiec, you nailed it about—you and I were talking at the break about Goldberg.

00:36:35.280 And we get back, and the whole thing is about how the hell did you have Goldberg in here?

00:36:39.440 And there's no rational—and there's no reasoning.

00:36:42.140 And then Radcliffe set himself up about Steve Witkoff being in Moscow.

00:36:45.880 This is not a search for truth.

00:36:49.860 It's not a search for truth.

00:36:52.800 Tulsi Gabbard's hard line at the beginning was the appropriate hard line of this administration. 0.95

00:36:57.460 It's basically, screw you, we're here to work for the commander-in-chief in ending these wars that you have allowed to get out of control, full stop.

00:37:09.700 It's being investigative. 0.86

00:37:10.740 You got a question?

00:37:11.560 Call the White House.

00:37:12.720 Jack Posobiec.

00:37:15.180 Steve, this is exactly what you warned about.

00:37:17.460 Look, these people are going to twist your words.

00:37:19.500 They're going to twist your statements.

00:37:20.780 This is why you don't talk.

00:37:21.960 This is why you say, hey, you know, when the FBI rolls up, you say, hey, talk to my lawyer, okay?

00:37:27.780 Talk to my lawyer.

00:37:29.280 Maybe not on the current FBI, but we'll see, all right?

00:37:32.140 So, of course, they're going to twist your words.

00:37:35.260 Of course, the Democrats are going to do this.

00:37:37.480 This is a show trial.

00:37:39.460 This is a Maoist-style struggle session.

00:37:42.560 And anything they put—this is what the Cultural Revolutionaries did.

00:37:45.780 This is what the Red Guards did.

00:37:47.160 They put you on a struggle session.

00:37:48.580 And the more you talk, the more you give them, the more ability they will use to hang you with your own words.

00:37:54.980 So you said it was appropriate.

00:37:56.100 I never said it was appropriate.

00:37:56.980 Oh, it's appropriate now.

00:37:58.340 And then watch.

00:37:58.980 Jake Tappers is going to be up in gym.

00:38:00.400 Shooter whatever.

00:38:00.860 John Ratcliffe is a good man.

00:38:05.160 John Ratcliffe tried to engage them, right, and tried to engage them.

00:38:09.580 And look how they twisted.

00:38:10.940 Look how Bennett came in and waited for the kill, right?

00:38:13.940 Waited for the kill.

00:38:14.760 And look at Ratcliffe trying to defend himself.

00:38:16.620 This is a Moscow show trial.

00:38:18.420 You're 100 percent right.

00:38:19.340 This is like in front of the Nazi judges where they just keep haranguing you on everything you said and twisting it and twist you in the wind. 0.62

00:38:25.960 This is exactly a struggle session.

00:38:28.060 This is what Mao Zedong went back to every village and did.

00:38:31.340 This is why you do not engage with them.

00:38:36.340 101.

00:38:37.240 You engage with them. 0.86

00:38:38.060 Now this thing is going to take on a life of its own because these people are jackals. 1.00

00:38:42.420 This is not a search for truth, Posobiec.

00:38:45.260 Not a search for truth.

00:38:48.320 What it is is a search for dirt.

00:38:50.260 And if there is no dirt, they will throw the dirt on you and say, look, this guy's got dirt on it.

00:38:55.640 They're going to say, look, this admin's got dirt on it.

00:38:58.000 They're going to let – we have no idea, by the way, who actually added this person to the Signal chat.

00:39:03.160 And I'm even going to sit there, and since Darren Beattie is otherwise occupied, I'll be the one to say it.

00:39:08.680 We don't actually know who added Jeff Goldberg to this chat.

00:39:12.460 And I'm not going to stipulate that it was – it was the staffer.

00:39:16.120 It was the – no, no, no.

00:39:17.280 Who added him to the chat?

00:39:18.740 Who actually did that?

00:39:19.580 How is it that the guy who did the suckers and losers, who's at the Atlantic, which has been the centerpiece, the centerpiece of the Atlanticist operations, of the deep state operations, the mouthpiece for Ann Applebaum and the neocons and the rest of them, that this guy, who's the overall head of this, is the one who's added?

00:39:36.700 I don't know, man.

00:39:38.320 Something does not smell right to me.

00:39:40.080 It doesn't smell right at all.

00:39:41.120 The coordination, leaking it the exact day before this hearing comes out, is obvious.

00:39:45.660 It's clear that this happened, by the way.

00:39:47.360 I'm sure he's in a bunch of Signal chats with Democrats that never come out in the Atlantic or anywhere else.

00:39:52.640 This is an operation that was designed to set up the struggle session that you are seeing today, and you need to see that coming and say, no, Moss, I'm not playing ball.

00:40:01.800 I'm not giving you anything.

00:40:04.420 First off, these people have to understand something.

00:40:06.460 But there's a bunch of these senators on the Republican side are wobbly.

00:40:10.800 You've got a bunch of weak.

00:40:12.100 That's weakness up there.

00:40:13.640 It's 53, what, 53-47.

00:40:16.360 It doesn't take a lot.

00:40:17.520 A couple of three of these people get wobbly and get wobbly.

00:40:21.220 All of a sudden, you have a vote in the Senate.

00:40:22.480 You can have an investigation.

00:40:25.520 This is you have to take a hard line.

00:40:29.000 This is the national security.

00:40:31.020 Like, President Trump's taking a hard line.

00:40:32.640 He implemented state secret last night on the judge.

00:40:37.340 Matt Gaetz said game over.

00:40:38.740 That is as smash-mouth as you can get.

00:40:40.680 President Trump is in the business of peace and prosperity and taking on the administrative state and the deep state.

00:40:47.600 He's taking on a judicial insurrection about as hard as you can.

00:40:51.300 He's taking on the system.

00:40:53.740 The CNN article yesterday, he's taking on the elites in this country and their institutions.

00:40:58.320 And the last thing you do is play into their frickin' hands.

00:41:02.320 They're not here to assist you.

00:41:04.140 They're not here to basically make up for all the mistakes that they have made, mistakes of, you know, conscious and unconscious.

00:41:12.580 And many of these were done on purpose that were in these wars.

00:41:17.020 Your job, your task and your purpose is not to feed the machine.

00:41:22.360 And now you've fed the machine in a struggle session.

00:41:24.860 That you wait the rest of the day and tonight in the New York Times.

00:41:28.200 This thing's going to go in a million different directions.

00:41:30.060 Take a hard line.

00:41:32.220 The hard line, he's commander-in-chief, right?

00:41:35.220 And they're going to reveal it.

00:41:36.180 He's got anything to say about it.

00:41:37.520 The White House has anything to say about it.

00:41:38.700 They'll get back to you.

00:41:39.680 We've got a job to do.

00:41:40.780 I'm here to answer any questions about this document that's there.

00:41:44.200 And so it's the annual intelligence review, Posobik.

00:41:49.160 Look, this is why they're going after Tulsi on the climate change stuff.

00:41:53.040 This is why the rest of that is coming out.

00:41:55.360 You say, look, I'm not going to give you anything.

00:41:57.760 I'm not going to participate in the struggle session.

00:42:00.000 Which, by the way, people tried to put me on a struggle session a week ago over the whole Christ is King thing.

00:42:04.800 And I had Jordan Peterson and eight people associated with the ADL.

00:42:08.880 And they were saying, oh, Posobik means something else when he says Christ is King.

00:42:11.820 And I had Seth Dillon to Babylon.

00:42:13.900 He's coming out.

00:42:14.460 What do you mean?

00:42:14.900 I said, I'm not playing.

00:42:16.280 I said, I'm not playing.

00:42:16.960 You try that with somebody else.

00:42:18.180 You could go ask somebody else that.

00:42:19.560 Try it on somebody else.

00:42:20.560 I'm not playing this game.

00:42:22.180 I'm not interested.

00:42:23.240 I'm not going in.

00:42:24.260 I'm not going to play this game.

00:42:25.260 Hard line.

00:42:26.000 It's hard line.

00:42:26.920 And it stopped.

00:42:27.620 And now all those people are backpedaling completely on the Christ is King.

00:42:30.800 I said, well, you should say it.

00:42:32.140 But you just got to.

00:42:32.760 Yeah, stop.

00:42:33.520 We know what you're trying to do.

00:42:34.700 We know it was a struggle session.

00:42:35.940 I know when you're trying to put me on a struggle session or get me to co-sign someone else's

00:42:39.640 struggle session, I don't play that game.

00:42:41.660 I do not play that game.

00:42:43.320 It's because I'm Polish.

00:42:44.240 Maybe it's because we've seen the communism before.

00:42:46.300 We're going to jump back in.

00:42:47.560 Let's go.

00:42:50.240 Let's go back to the question of the Democrats.

00:42:52.860 Signal chat.

00:42:55.340 Mr. Ratcliffe, you're nodding your head.

00:42:57.460 Any mention of any military unit whatsoever?

00:43:01.700 Mr. Ratcliffe.

00:43:02.680 Not that I recall.

00:43:03.880 Ms. Gabbard.

00:43:04.620 Not that I recall.

00:43:05.360 OK, so I understand that DOD policy prohibits discussion of even what is called controlled

00:43:12.100 unclassified information, or CUI, on unsecured devices.

00:43:18.380 Are both of you aware of that DOD policy?

00:43:24.400 I haven't read that policy.

00:43:27.180 Not familiar with the DOD policy, but I would say that the Secretary of Defense is the original

00:43:33.280 classification authority for DOD in deciding what would be classified information.

00:43:40.020 Ms. Gabbard, does the intelligence community have a policy that prohibits discussion of controlled,

00:43:46.580 unclassified information?

00:43:49.080 Yes.

00:43:49.960 It does.

00:43:50.480 Okay.

00:43:50.820 Controlled, unclassified information, according to DOD, includes information that is information

00:43:59.600 that has not been approved for public release.

00:44:03.860 Would you, of what's been disclosed publicly of the signal chain, would either of you feel

00:44:11.960 that that would be approved for public release?

00:44:15.800 Ms. Gabbard.

00:44:19.840 The discussion that took place in that signal chat group was a conversation reflecting national

00:44:28.260 security leaders and the vice president around the president's objectives.

00:44:33.700 So, yes or no, would you approve that for public release?

00:44:38.500 I don't feel I can answer that question here.

00:44:41.980 Because of the nature of this hearing?

00:44:45.080 Because of the nature of a private discussion that took place between individual leaders

00:44:53.320 in our government.

00:44:54.300 It would make sense that you would not approve it for public release, wouldn't it?

00:44:59.540 There are other factors that would go into that consideration.

00:45:02.700 Mr. Ratcliffe, yes or no?

00:45:05.280 I wouldn't approve the release of classified information.

00:45:08.280 Again, as I've said, my understanding is—

00:45:09.660 I'm not talking about classified information, Mr. Ratcliffe.

00:45:11.900 I'm talking about information that has not been approved for public release.

00:45:16.560 That is information that is considered controlled, unclassified information.

00:45:22.280 The principles that would have been on that would have been individuals capable of approving

00:45:27.500 that for public release.

00:45:29.340 Do you—let me—I've got 20 seconds.

00:45:32.700 The deliberation as to whether or not we should launch a strike on another country, would you

00:45:40.360 consider that classified information, Ms. Gabbard?

00:45:45.320 The information was not classified.

00:45:48.960 This is—this is—I'm not talking about this.

00:45:51.580 I'm just talking about deliberation as—from principles as to whether or not we should launch

00:45:59.240 a strike on another country.

00:46:01.240 Would you consider that classified information?

00:46:03.740 I'm not talking about what happened this week.

00:46:06.200 There are other factors that would go into determining that classification.

00:46:10.240 Mr. Ratcliffe, the deliberation between principles in our national security apparatus about whether or not to strike another country, would you consider that to be classified information?

00:46:20.240 Pre-decisional strike deliberation should be conducted through classified channels.

00:46:25.900 Thank you.

00:46:26.900 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:46:27.900 If I may, I just want to return, Mr. Ratcliffe, to your answer there in part to Senator Kelly.

00:46:34.560 It's been raised at several occasions now in this hearing about whether classified information was discussed in this chat.

00:46:41.900 And you mentioned about the Secretary of Defense being what you called, I think, the original classification authority.

00:46:48.560 Correct.

00:46:49.560 I think it's important for the public to understand that although you and Director Gabbard are original classification authorities on many matters,

00:46:58.860 you're not that for all matters that might be classified in the government.

00:47:02.740 Is that right?

00:47:03.460 That's correct.

00:47:04.040 So, if the Secretary of State has classified sensitive diplomatic details, that's his authority.

00:47:12.020 If the Secretary of Energy has sensitive classified information about our national laboratories, that's his authority.

00:47:18.180 And the two of you can't speak to other departments who have their own original classification authority,

00:47:24.920 which, of course, as Director Gabbard said, ultimately rested with one person, the President of the United States.

00:47:30.980 Is that correct?

00:47:31.760 That's correct.

00:47:32.380 Okay.

00:47:33.160 I just wanted to clarify that.

00:47:35.640 It looks like the vice chairman wants to weigh in as well.

00:47:37.740 Just very briefly.

00:47:39.200 I mean, I think it strains the audience and the watching public's credibility.

00:47:47.400 If we're talking about timing packages, that somehow this would be okay to put out.

00:47:57.460 Or just, frankly, senior American officials trashing Europe.

00:48:03.820 I've been around this for a while.

00:48:05.840 This is not information you generally put out.

00:48:08.780 And the notion there's not even acknowledgement of, hey, gosh, we screwed up, is stunning to me.

00:48:14.820 And the idea somehow, well, none of this was classified, but we can't talk about it here.

00:48:19.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:48:22.380 I think the witness's point is they can't speak for every official in the government who has original classification authority.

00:48:30.600 Chairman, I don't—that's not what we're—I'm not trying to litigate that.

00:48:35.300 I'm trying to litigate on the face unless, as Senator Bennett said, this reporter is somehow making this all up.

00:48:45.460 And I think the White House has acknowledged that the text chain that he submitted was authentic.

00:48:52.060 It strains my mind to think—it strains my mind if the shoe had been on the other foot, what my colleagues would be saying about this.

00:49:02.820 And, again, we're going to get to the bottom of it.

00:49:05.100 And I appreciate your comments, but you guys have both testified under law.

00:49:08.540 There's nothing classified in that information.

00:49:10.900 And there's nothing—in a sense, I've not heard any—either one of you say, gosh, we screwed up.

00:49:15.300 So we'll find out.

00:49:17.080 This is too important to our national security.

00:49:19.860 And, again, I know we've got more members to discuss.

00:49:22.840 They testified, is my understanding—correct me if I'm wrong—that there's no intelligence community classified information.

00:49:30.100 Is that correct?

00:49:31.220 That's correct.

00:49:32.060 Is that correct, Director Gabbard?

00:49:34.240 Yes, Chairman.

00:49:35.200 Well, again—

00:49:35.760 That's not correct.

00:49:36.520 She said repeatedly there was nothing classified.

00:49:38.960 Period.

00:49:39.520 Period.

00:49:39.780 Period.

00:49:40.680 You can't have it both—and, again, we'll see.

00:49:43.980 I cannot believe this is not going to come out.

00:49:45.700 And if it's not classified, again, we'd ask you to make it—give it to the public today.

00:49:51.640 I'm sure some—one of your aides back there probably got it.

00:49:55.720 On paper, if you've got it here, it's not classified, stand by your position.

00:50:00.900 Or is this just one more example of a careless approach to how we keep our secrets in this administration?

00:50:07.100 With apologies to Senator Moran.

00:50:10.440 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to our witnesses for being here.

00:50:15.960 I want to explore a little bit about Ukraine, and I'll direct this to Director Radcliffe.

00:50:20.880 That is called A Cleanup in Aisle 3 by Senator Tom Cotton, the chairman.

00:50:25.740 And, folks, Warner just said it right there.

00:50:30.480 This is now, because they play in hand, this is—they're going to, you know, quote-unquote, get to the bottom of it.

00:50:36.040 And you hear how they're parsing it.

00:50:38.420 Like I said, once again, Jack Posobiec, this is not a search for truth.

00:50:41.320 These people are jackals.

00:50:43.080 They're going to use this to weaponize against President Trump.

00:50:45.500 And now you've got the courts—you've got this radical judiciary coming at one angle,

00:50:51.220 and now you've got the deep state that's now got fuel to come at President Trump for the other angle.

00:50:57.680 Hey, buckle up, folks, because this is going to get pretty bumpy.

00:51:02.500 Jack Posobiec.

00:51:03.180 Well, it's getting fun now.

00:51:05.600 The ops are moving.

00:51:07.080 The ops are moving.

00:51:08.040 The operations.

00:51:09.360 Do you think the deep state just was going to roll over?

00:51:12.160 Did you think those guys disappeared?

00:51:14.080 Do you think all the people that we've been fighting since 2016 onward are just magically vanished?

00:51:19.360 And all of a sudden, Steve, look, it's the same players it's always been.

00:51:22.240 That's what gets me, man.

00:51:23.200 It's the same players, and we keep falling for the same thing over and over.

00:51:27.500 You've got the Intel community.

00:51:29.400 You've got the SSCI.

00:51:31.040 You've got Mark—Mark Werner!

00:51:33.180 —the guy who was shopping the Steele dossier around.

00:51:36.000 The same guy who was coordinating with the Steele dossier.

00:51:39.720 And you've got Chris Steele going up on Piers Morgan, at least.

00:51:43.560 Natalie Winters at least treated Chris Steele on Piers Morgan the way that he deserved.

00:51:49.380 That's how you treat a deep state apparatchik.

00:51:52.140 You don't sit there and act like these guys are operating in good faith.

00:51:55.380 They are enemy agents.

00:51:57.340 They are trying to take you down and through you the agenda of the American people and the America First movement, period, full stop.

00:52:04.720 That's what this is all about.

00:52:05.860 Now you're playing along.

00:52:07.400 You're acting like the struggle session has merit.

00:52:09.520 You're acting like the investigation has merit, that any of these people have merit, that any of these people should be allowed to have control of our country.

00:52:16.120 No, absolutely not.

00:52:17.740 You're trying to wrest control from them.

00:52:20.100 This is a regime change.

00:52:22.580 And the old regime is still in place.

00:52:25.020 Their infrastructure is still in place.

00:52:26.840 They're burrowed deep in there.

00:52:28.560 That's why we call them the deep state.

00:52:30.220 And that's why they're throwing sand in the gears of the machine.

00:52:33.220 They're doing this.

00:52:33.800 You're watching interrogation.

00:52:35.520 You're watching a struggle session.

00:52:37.180 This is something out of Moscow.

00:52:38.620 This is something out of Chairman Mao.

00:52:40.340 By the way, at the end of these, with Chairman Mao, what they used to do with the Red Guards is they'd put the sign around your neck.

00:52:46.300 They're putting the sign around the neck right now.

00:52:48.440 And usually, usually, that would end with a gunshot.

00:52:51.080 And they charge the family for the bullet.

00:52:53.000 Yeah.

00:52:54.280 You put the dunce hat on and the sign around the neck.

00:52:57.780 I want to go back.

00:52:59.060 So we're going to end our broadcast this morning.

00:53:01.320 We're obviously going to have so much about this.

00:53:03.800 There's a common thread here.

00:53:05.180 From Wisconsin, we were going to have the folks from Florida 6 on.

00:53:08.580 DeGrasse is going to be on.

00:53:09.740 Also, the chairman of the St. John's County down there.

00:53:13.980 About, we've got to get on top of this race.

00:53:16.840 There's a problem in Florida 6.

00:53:18.960 There's a problem in Wisconsin.

00:53:20.580 Part of the problem here is people have just said, hey, we won in November, man.

00:53:24.460 This is a good time.

00:53:25.780 I told you from the beginning, this is a war.

00:53:28.160 Every day, and they're on point.

00:53:29.980 They mean to crush President Trump, to end MAGA, to end the Trump movement.

00:53:35.140 And guess what?

00:53:35.900 To impeach him and put him in jail.

00:53:37.720 Don't think we're through that.

00:53:39.280 If you think you're through that, you don't understand reality.

00:53:44.160 Look at what happened today.

00:53:45.100 Jack Pessoa, before I leave, I want to go back to the most important point today.

00:53:49.520 All of this happened, this tech chain, everything you're talking about, is the attack on the Houthis that took place on March 15th, Saturday, the Ides of March.

00:53:59.880 Do you think it's just random that it got released yesterday?

00:54:03.280 I've got a minute for you, Pessoa, before you've got to bounce.

00:54:06.580 Talk about that.

00:54:07.560 Talk about this.

00:54:08.600 This was a hearing that was set up.

00:54:10.620 Go ahead.

00:54:12.220 Tell us about how this was set up.

00:54:14.200 It's not random.

00:54:15.740 It's 100% coordinated.

00:54:16.520 You really think that it's the Atlantic, which we've always told you, is the central mouthpiece for the deep state apparatus, the blob apparatus, as Mike Benz calls it, the Atlantis apparatus mouthpiece.

00:54:27.720 Their number one guy, the guy who was behind the suckers and losers' hopes, the piece that was the same outlet that was behind the Russian bounties and so many other hoaxes throughout the years, in coordination with the Democrats on SSCI on this hearing, the day before they knew it came out,

00:54:44.360 if you don't understand you're looking at a coordinated operation, then you must have been asleep for the last eight years.

00:54:51.680 Understand, this is being done to derail MAGA.

00:54:55.420 This is being done to derail the agenda.

00:54:57.920 This is being done to try to isolate various cabinet members, to pick them off and attack them one by one, or to get them to fight amongst each other.

00:55:06.100 That's why it's going on right now.

00:55:07.980 That's how these things always happen.

00:55:09.580 If you're looking at an operation, if you don't think you're looking at an operation, you better wake up, because you're in one.

00:55:16.660 Okay, let me, some programming notes.

00:55:20.000 Charlie Kirk, the great Charlie Kirk, is going to pick this up live.

00:55:23.800 We're going to continue coverage on Real America's Voice.

00:55:25.660 Jack Pasova is going to be back at 2.

00:55:27.500 We're going to be back 5 to 7, break all this down for you.

00:55:30.320 Also, so much other news is going on in the judiciary.

00:55:33.720 This is a full-out assault on President Trump's presidency, and they're gearing up for it.

00:55:40.060 Jack Pasova, okay, we have the, let's go right down to the Democrat question.

00:55:44.820 Go ahead.

00:55:45.940 Reported in the Atlantic Monthly, is that correct?

00:55:48.140 No, that's not correct.

00:55:49.140 So, Senator, what I've related is that any information that was related from my perspective

00:55:58.360 or that I observed from the intelligence perspective was not classified information.

00:56:02.960 With respect to the assertions and the allegations that there was strike packages or targeting information

00:56:11.240 or things that relate to DOD, as I've pointed out, the Secretary of Defense is the original classification

00:56:18.200 authority for determining whether something's classified or not.

00:56:21.720 And as I've understood from media reports, the Secretary of Defense has said the information

00:56:26.340 was not classified.

00:56:28.280 Are you aware that the Secretary of Defense declassified this information prior to the good?

00:56:34.640 I'm not.

00:56:36.700 Director Gabbert, same question.

00:56:38.620 You've said it, you've indicated, at least the impression I got, was that there was no

00:56:42.580 classified information discussed.

00:56:44.360 Is that correct?

00:56:45.360 Senator, my answer is the same as the Director of the CIA's.

00:56:49.660 So, the question has to be posed to Secretary Hegseth whether he declassified the information

00:56:56.760 and at what point he did declassify it.

00:57:00.080 Do you agree?

00:57:00.960 Yes, I defer questions to the Secretary of Defense.

00:57:04.000 Okay.

00:57:04.320 Director Patel, are you conducting an investigation of this, these discussions and activities?

00:57:13.640 Thank you, Senator.

00:57:14.300 As I informed the Vice Chairman on the same question, I found out about this late last night, early

00:57:19.280 this morning, so I don't have an update for you on that.

00:57:23.420 Well, thank you.

00:57:24.540 When you get an update, we'd appreciate it very much.

00:57:26.860 Yes, sir.

00:57:27.140 Director Gabbert, were you overseas during any parts of these discussions?

00:57:35.800 Yes, Senator, I was.

00:57:37.080 Were you using your private phone or public phone for the signal discussions?

00:57:44.780 I won't speak to this because it's under review by the National Security Council.

00:57:49.520 Once that review is complete, I'm sure we'll share the results with the committee.

00:57:53.700 What is under review?

00:57:55.080 It's a very simple question.

00:57:56.500 Are you a private phone or an officially issued phone?

00:58:00.220 What could be under review?

00:58:02.260 National Security Council is reviewing all aspects of how this came to be, how the journalist

00:58:08.340 was inadvertently added to the group chat, and what occurred to the chat.

00:58:12.280 We're pitching this live to Charlie Kirk right now.

00:58:14.560 See you back here at 5.

00:58:15.420 So you are not going to disclose anything about whether you use the phone.

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Bannon's War Room - March 25, 2025

Episode 4363： Senate Intelligence Committee On World Wide Threats Not A Search For Truth Cont.

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