Bannon's War Room - Episode 4365： Explosive Attacks In House Intelligence Subcommittee

00:00:00.000 Administration officials involved who are among the highest ranking in the U.S. government insist

00:00:05.160 no classified information was shared. Moments ago, a follow-up. Goldberg posted a follow-up

00:00:13.480 piece entitled, Here are the attack plans that Trump's advisors shared on Signal. He writes in

00:00:21.340 part this, the statements by Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump, combined with the assertions

00:00:27.680 made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about the context of the signal texts

00:00:34.060 have led us to believe that people should see the texts in order to reach their own conclusions.

00:00:41.740 And then laid out in this latest piece, which broke just now in The Atlantic, Jonathan Lemire,

00:00:48.280 everyone can see the text for themselves. Yeah, the screenshots of the texts are included in this

00:00:52.560 piece that Jeffrey Goldberg and Shane Harris just posted on The Atlantic's website. We'll go through

00:00:56.980 a little bit of it now. The White House, as you just mentioned, has insisted time and again,

00:01:01.000 two things, that nothing in here was classified and that no war plans were included. Well, as

00:01:06.000 Jeffrey and Shane write, take a look for yourself. I'll read a little bit of it here. These are texts

00:01:10.540 from Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, talking about at 1144 Eastern that day, weather is

00:01:16.880 favorable. Just confirmed with CENTCOM, we are a go for mission launch. 1215 texts in this chat,

00:01:23.640 F-18's launch declares this the first strike package. At 145 talks about how the trigger-based

00:01:31.140 strike window begins. Target terrorist is at known location. As you, here we are here,

00:01:39.400 second strike at 1536. More to follow. We're currently clean on OPSEC. Of course, Secretary

00:01:45.940 of Defense declares they're clean on OPSEC in a text chain read by the editor of The Atlantic,

00:01:50.740 who is inadvertently added to that group. And we'll note, a short time later, we have further

00:01:55.540 updates from Michael Waltz, the national jury advisor, who talks about how the target has been

00:02:01.120 hit, declaring positive identifications. So these are, would seem to me, the very definition of

00:02:07.420 attack plans. And I've already talked to a former Pentagon official who says, reading these screenshots

00:02:12.400 hardly, of course, everything in here would be classified. And as you say, you're allowing readers to

00:02:18.080 decide for themselves what they mean. But just walk us through some of the texts you saw there

00:02:23.100 from particularly the Secretary of Defense, and then later the national security advisor about the

00:02:27.000 operation that day in Yemen. Right. Look, the key thing here is, this is an interesting one you have up

00:02:33.120 on the screen. This is Mike Waltz in a commercial messaging app, providing real-time intelligence

00:02:41.780 updates about the consequences of an American attack. Obviously, there's a challenge here for

00:02:49.140 secrecy, because if you know this, the question then arises, how do they know this? And what kind

00:02:55.220 of assets that they have, technical or human assets, that would know that. But the core of this chain

00:03:01.160 is the statement, is the long text issued by Pete Hegseff two hours before the first bombs fell in

00:03:09.720 Yemen. Everybody can find it on the Atlantic website now. And when she goes hour by hour, sometimes minute

00:03:16.960 by minute, here's what's going to happen. And the thing that really struck me as I'm, again, reading this

00:03:23.540 on my phone in a Safeway parking lot. The thing that really struck me is that he's telling me and others

00:03:31.120 that an attack hasn't even begun yet, but the planes are launching in 31 minutes. You know, look, imagine

00:03:39.300 this text went to someone else. I mean, if that's not secret, classified information about, or the most

00:03:50.760 sensitive kind of government information in the world, I don't know what is. I mean, Carolyn Levitt is

00:04:00.240 arguing that it's not a war because Congress didn't declare war on Yemen. Okay, fine. She wants to play a

00:04:05.400 semantic game. But this is operational details about a forthcoming attack on an enemy that has anti-aircraft

00:04:13.460 capabilities. They've allegedly shot down our drones before. So why you would tell anyone in the world

00:04:21.180 on a messaging app that American pilots are about to fly into a, sorry for the expression, war zone,

00:04:28.680 that's an interesting question. So I'm curious, what are your thoughts about the fact that Secretary of

00:04:36.000 State Rubio was on this chain, this signal chain, when he probably knows more about the proper steps to take

00:04:54.080 for passing intel information along than-

00:04:57.560 Yep, and me.

00:04:58.200 Okay, we're going to bust into this. We're going to go to the House Intelligence Committee. This is

00:05:05.580 live. Let's, the entire intelligence crew yesterday is there. Let's go live to House Intelligence.

00:05:11.640 ...and undisclosed agent of the CCP. And after four years of a catastrophic open border policy and

00:05:17.360 limited, and in many cases, no vetting, we have seen an explosion of illegal migrants crossing

00:05:22.040 our border since 2021. In fiscal year 2024, 516 were identified to be known or suspected terrorists,

00:05:29.620 106 of whom tried to sneak into our country between ports of entry. And these are just the ones we

00:05:35.140 caught of the nearly 3 million encounters recorded by Customs and Border Protection.

00:05:40.400 We've also seen an ISIS-affiliated human smuggling network bringing more than 400 migrants into the

00:05:45.080 United States. And this occurs through networks associated with cartels and gangs from Sinaloa to CJNG,

00:05:50.500 who present an unacceptable risk to the security of the American people. In the midst of such threats,

00:05:56.300 many have understandably lost trust in the intelligence community. One reason I'm particularly

00:06:00.980 concerned about is the pattern of lapses I've seen in analytic integrity and objectivity in some of the

00:06:05.660 assessments provided by the IC in the last few years. From President Trump-Russia collusion fiasco to

00:06:11.680 the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic to anomalous health incidents, there have been numerous instances

00:06:17.060 of the IC suppressing certain reporting using substandard reporting to support a pre-decided

00:06:21.900 thesis, and failure or refusal to consider plausible alternative analyses. That combined with many

00:06:27.540 other examples of weaponized government results in a situation where the United States is facing very

00:06:31.940 real threats, while many of our citizens lack trust in those they empower to inform on or counter these threats.

00:06:38.740 Look, I've been honored to serve our country for many years now, first as an Explosive Ordinance Disposal

00:06:43.580 Technician in the Army, now as a representative for the 1st District of Arkansas and chairman of this

00:06:48.740 committee. In my time here, I've traveled the world and met with countless IC employees from everyday

00:06:53.620 Americans doing challenging and often dangerous work of intelligence to agencies directors like yourselves.

00:06:59.620 The vast majority of those people are honest, hardworking, patriotic Americans that silently and without accolades do

00:07:07.460 difficult jobs, often in austere places, sacrificing time with their families and in some cases putting

00:07:13.700 themselves in danger, all in order to serve the United States. These silent warriors deserve our

00:07:19.460 gratitude and our respect. They do not deserve to have their reputations besmirched by poor leadership.

00:07:26.340 Unfortunately, in recent years we've seen instances of politicized, self-serving, dishonest leaders

00:07:30.980 sustaining the reputation of our institutions and patriots by abusing the powers and sacred trust given to them

00:07:36.660 by the American people. We have some real work to do. You and your roles as leaders of prestigious

00:07:42.420 organizations and us as members of this committee charged with conducting honest and rigorous oversight

00:07:47.700 must ensure that our institutions work for the American people. Those that don't uphold the

00:07:51.780 stringent standards of integrity that the American people expect and deserve must be held accountable.

00:07:56.820 In the instances where trust is breached, those involved must be held accountable. This will help rebuild the

00:08:02.900 trust between the American people and those that serve them in the intelligence community. Today we

00:08:07.380 need you to be candid about the threats facing the United States. I have deep concerns that many threats

00:08:11.860 have been downplayed or not taken... Okay, that's the chairman right there, Crawford. He's going through a basic

00:08:18.580 opening. They're going to go to Himes in a second. I'm going to pick it up. Jack Posobiec is with me.

00:08:22.900 Jack, let me bring you quickly. We opened with the reporter from the Atlantic dropped the receipts this morning.

00:08:30.100 Oh, hang on. Let's go to Himes right now. This is a Democrat. This is going to be pretty volatile today. Let's hear it.

00:08:34.820 I want the American people to hear directly from the senior leadership of the intelligence community

00:08:40.100 about the threats that our nation faces. I read the unclassified report and I found a lot of

00:08:46.180 continuity in the IC's assessment about critical threats to our national security compared to last

00:08:51.380 year's assessment. The IC continues to see threats from our principal adversaries, China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

00:08:59.620 I must say, though, that after these last two months, I'm worried that the call may be coming from

00:09:06.740 inside the house. This report calls Russia, and I quote, an enduring potential threat to U.S. power,

00:09:14.500 presence, and global interests. But as far as I can tell, we're now on Team Kremlin. We vote with them

00:09:21.780 and against our allies in the United Nations. We humiliate President Zelensky in the Oval Office.

00:09:29.700 The President's chief Russian negotiator, Steve Witkoff, is repeating Russian talking points

00:09:35.060 and participating on a madcap signal chat about an attack on Yemen while inside Russia.

00:09:42.180 USAID is gone. And with it, all American soft power. If I had time, I would ask the generals at

00:09:50.980 this table about what it means to our national security to give up our soft power. We're no longer

00:09:56.980 helping struggling nations in Africa. China, or worse, terrorists are filling the vacuum.

00:10:04.180 I wonder how many of those African countries will be named in next year's threat assessment.

00:10:09.140 Thanks to Doge, the men we paid to guard the most vicious ISIS terrorists in the world in Syria

00:10:16.580 walked off the job. Do you think we'll see their names in this document next year?

00:10:21.940 Elon Musk fired the people who maintain our nuclear weapons. Does that feel like a threat to you?

00:10:32.900 Apparently all of this mayhem is cheered by the President of the United States and by 20-somethings

00:10:37.140 with laptops and nicknames like big balls. But I've been doing this for a long time and I know that

00:10:43.300 Moscow and Beijing and Tehran and Pyongyang cannot believe their luck.

00:10:49.060 Now we come to learn that people in the most dangerous and sensitive jobs on the planet put

00:10:56.180 extremely specific pre-decisional discussions about a military attack on signal, which could be

00:11:02.580 intercepted by the Russians and the Chinese. Everyone here knows that the Russians or the Chinese

00:11:08.180 could have gotten all of that information. And they could have passed it on to the Houthis,

00:11:13.140 who easily could have repositioned weapons and altered their plans to knock down planes or sink ships.

00:11:21.780 I think that it's by the awesome grace of God that we are not mourning dead pilots right now.

00:11:29.620 The two general officers sitting at the table and the people who work for all of you know that if

00:11:34.100 they had set up and participated in the signal chat they would be gone. And they know that there's only one

00:11:40.660 response to a mistake of this magnitude. You apologize, you own it, and you stop everything until you can

00:11:48.740 figure out what went wrong and how it might not ever happen again. But that's not what happened.

00:11:57.060 The Secretary of Defense responded with a brutal attack on the reporter who did not ask to be on the signal chain.

00:12:04.820 Yesterday our former colleague Mike Waltz did the same in the White House and then went on Fox to call Jeff Goldberg a loser.

00:12:15.060 What do you think the people who work for you are seeing and learning from that?

00:12:19.700 Now, except for that last part, almost all of the mayhem slowly eroding our safety, our standing,

00:12:28.900 and our security in the world has largely happened outside the IC. If you had a part in that, and I suspect

00:12:37.380 you did, I thank you. I'll say it now and I'll say it again every time we see each other over the next

00:12:44.180 couple of years. You must protect the thousands of patriots who go to work every day under you to

00:12:51.140 keep us safe. You need to go to work every day thinking about their morale, their well-being,

00:12:56.740 and their protection. I've done intelligence oversight for more than a decade. It's my job

00:13:02.500 to ask you the tough questions and maybe even make you uncomfortable.

00:13:05.700 John, I don't ever walk through your lobby and look at those 140 stars on the wall without choking up

00:13:15.860 over the fact that men and women far better than I will give their lives to keep us safe.

00:13:23.060 There's about a dozen people in this room who know all their stories and you know and I know that many

00:13:28.660 of the men and women who have stars on that wall died because of bad decisions or poor judgment by their

00:13:35.220 leaders. We've all worked together before and in recent events notwithstanding, we need you to

00:13:44.260 succeed. Your people and our safety requires you to succeed. I really hope you do. But let me say now

00:13:53.860 that if some over-caffeinated 20-year-old succeeds in firing your linguists or your mathematicians or your

00:14:01.060 paramilitary officers, if you shut down some unit because Steve Bannon or Seb Gorka doesn't like it,

00:14:08.020 America will be less safe and people will get hurt. And I and this committee and history

00:14:14.980 will be very unkind.

00:14:19.940 so the house uh house intelligence ejects at the frame here this morning they dropped the receipts

00:14:29.300 as we knew they were that's why yesterday's uh yesterday's hearing was so uh you know i think it

00:14:36.900 went in the wrong direction it was too chatty they should have hunkered down put in perspective what we

00:14:41.300 saw this morning from the Atlantic magazine the strike package the information and what does that mean for this

00:14:46.900 hearing today? Well Steve let's let's not bury the lead here either because he just name dropped Steve

00:14:52.980 Bannon he's talking about the war room audience those guys saw I saw this show yesterday they saw

00:14:58.900 everything that went through here they're terrified of this audience they know that the war room posse

00:15:05.140 is the force that needs to be reckoned with in Washington DC that's who's battering down the doors

00:15:11.220 figuratively when it comes to all of this those are the people that they're out watching say wait a minute

00:15:16.740 bad in the imposter these guys were talking yesterday about how this is an operation and then boom here

00:15:21.220 comes the drip drip drip of oh we've got you know this this uh information that came out which we told

00:15:27.380 you about what you said and then you were chatting by the way Steve we were the ones on the program

00:15:32.340 yesterday saying stop giving the information just take the hard lines like Tulsi Gabbard the dni did

00:15:39.780 yesterday don't get caught up in this syntax don't get caught up in the semantic games and now the

00:15:45.460 semantic games are coming out more and more because you knew that we said this we said

00:15:49.860 Goldberg probably has more he's going to try to catch them in a perjury trap he's going to drop more

00:15:54.340 tomorrow and then he's going to say oh look they lied because the thing they said yesterday doesn't

00:15:59.140 match what I saw in the chat that and that's when he was on with Tim Miller and we talked about this

00:16:02.820 in the five o'clock show and you know I can't I can't release those extra texts I can't do it what

00:16:07.140 are you my lawyer Tim what are you on my lawyer I'm not gonna say and of course he was because he was

00:16:10.820 planning to do it all along the next day that was the point of the operation now Judge Bosberg comes

00:16:17.620 in Judge Bosberg get it coming in that's moving the artillery into the firing line this has become

00:16:23.220 the route look the Democrats were demoralized they were demoralized they were defeated the media was

00:16:28.820 defeated and now all of a sudden they have a civil yeah there's a okay there's a civil suit that just

00:16:34.500 got filed against Pete Hegseth about this entire thing they randomly selected the judge in Washington

00:16:40.980 D.C. and it's Judge Bosberg we told you this is a pincer move between the deep state and the

00:16:46.420 judicial insurrection now Bosberg is the connective link we told you wait till it gets in the court

00:16:51.460 they're already trying to get it to court Bosberg's taken on they're going to have I think emergency

00:16:55.220 hearing this afternoon or tomorrow on this jack this is a pincer move against the Trump administration

00:17:02.180 that's what they have to hunker down today they're doing the opening statements but we're

00:17:05.700 gonna get into the question we'll handle the Democrats given the information jack that you

00:17:11.300 saw call let's call balls and strikes the information that you saw and assume right now it's correct I'm

00:17:16.820 sure it's already been verified on the on the information that was on the text was that information

00:17:23.060 classified into your perspective as a naval intelligence officer well you know if you put it this way

00:17:31.620 if I was in the intel community I wouldn't be sharing that information over open comms operational stuff

00:17:36.660 that I've always seen has always been at the secret level I've never done work with operational

00:17:43.380 information like that that would be on a genser server or on anything unclassified anything open

00:17:48.900 source now obviously the secretary of defense has some original classification authority for those

00:17:55.700 operations and so he has the ability to declassify various things if he wants to and and so the the

00:18:03.140 issue here steve is for the average person at home watching this trying to figure out what's going on

00:18:08.500 they're going to say that looks like information that I wouldn't want to see up on twitter telegram

00:18:14.580 or anywhere else why because the average american does actually care about the uh the mega soldiers the

00:18:21.780 mega troops that are out there the sailors the pilots etc and by the way that these guys these

00:18:27.060 democrats they don't care these are the guys who got the 13 killed at abbey gate and joe biden

00:18:31.940 couldn't even show up without staring at his watch the whole time and claim that it didn't happen and

00:18:35.940 all the rest of it completely sold them out they don't care they don't care at all this is a drama

00:18:40.660 act what you're seeing is theater kids this is the theater kid occupied government and you got the

00:18:46.020 congressman up there oh i'm so sad i'm so tired he's going for his oscar i guess he i guess he heard

00:18:51.780 that you know snow white collapsed at the uh at the box office so he's thinking he can get up there

00:18:56.260 for best actress maybe but the idea that the idea that they have any care whatsoever for this it's

00:19:02.340 a joke and it always has been yeah you're we're going to lose you uh so i want to what should the

00:19:08.180 audience look for today when we go back to the questions and answers where they're going to try to

00:19:11.780 chop people up twice as much as yesterday because they're going to put up on the screen

00:19:16.020 actually what the uh what the carrier battle group with the strike with the strike uh pilots uh were

00:19:21.860 doing at a specific time and in fact i think they're going to claim it happened 30 or 31 minutes before

00:19:27.300 the actual launch of from the carrier battle group um what should people look for today sir right and

00:19:33.460 i'll talk operational we've talked about this before steve what the the the iranians have given

00:19:37.860 the houthis and there's been reports of these standoff drones that have the ability to hover in

00:19:43.460 essentially hover in midair waiting for uh waiting for the jets to come by and then they have a booster

00:19:49.220 rocket on them that would fire and so they're going to get into all of this they're going to explain

00:19:53.620 the operational capabilities of the houthis they're going to get into the red sea you're going to see

00:19:57.700 that up until of obviously the the carriers can't really maneuver because it's so uh so tight of a space

00:20:04.180 especially if they're in that slock of the straight about them and deb and so you're you're going to

00:20:09.140 get into all of that but what i want you to see also look at is look at the contours of the operation

00:20:14.900 as it moves big capper msnbc intel committees natasha bertrand this is an intel op against the trump

00:20:23.940 administration the same way that russiagate was where was russiagate born started in the committees

00:20:29.140 and then it moved where into the courts that's what you're going to look for so from the administration

00:20:33.860 i want to see are we going to get more interviews on fox news we're going to see more of these

00:20:37.940 sit-downs or are we going to get the hard line of tulsi gabbard hunker down hard line hard line

00:20:43.860 jack and by the way that's what obama would do i'm sure obama would say we've addressed this and

00:20:48.420 taking care of it oh barack obama would would say would not admit anything and everybody would move on

00:20:54.740 so just do what obama would do go to the mat you would go to the mattresses which we'll have to do

00:21:00.020 today okay jack we'll check you we'll grab you by uh by phone uh as you uh travel back to dc

00:21:07.140 thanks everybody at the white house jack puts over thank you um i'm gonna go back to hearing

00:21:11.860 mtg is also on a doge oversight committee she's lighting up pbs we're going to cut into that too

00:21:17.060 let's go back to the committee we're going to dip in and out and try to do it commercial free as much

00:21:21.860 as possible this morning or thank rv let's go live to the hearing advancing its cyber capabilities for

00:21:26.740 sophisticated operations aimed at stealing sensitive u.s government and private sector information

00:21:32.500 and pre-positioning additional asymmetric attack options that may be deployed in a conflict

00:21:38.820 china's cyber activities have been linked to multiple high-profile breaches including last

00:21:44.500 year's massive compromise of u.s telecom infrastructure commonly referred to as salt typhoon

00:21:51.060 beijing currently dominates global markets and strategically important supply chains for

00:21:55.940 example with the mining and processing of several critical minerals in december china imposed an

00:22:02.180 export ban to the united states on gallium germanium and antimony all of which are important to the

00:22:08.340 production of semiconductors and our defense technologies this was in direct response to u.s export

00:22:14.500 controls on chips designed to broadly limit prc access to advanced chips and chip making equipment

00:22:21.380 china also aims to compete in other critical global industries including ai legacy semiconductor chip

00:22:28.740 production biomanufacturing and genetic sequencing and medical and pharmaceutical supply production

00:22:36.980 russia's nuclear and conventional military capabilities along with its demonstrated economic

00:22:41.540 and military resilience make it a formidable competitor moscow has more nuclear weapons than any other

00:22:47.620 nation that could inflict catastrophic damage on the united states and the world in the event of a

00:22:53.220 major war that russian leaders feared put them and their regime at serious risk in late 2024 russia

00:23:01.220 announced updates to its public nuclear doctrine expanding the conditions under which russia would

00:23:06.180 consider using nuclear weapons russia is building a more modern and survivable nuclear force designed to

00:23:12.900 circumvent u.s missile defense through reliable retaliatory strike potential it intends to deter the u.s

00:23:20.020 by holding the u.s homeland at risk and by having the capabilities to threaten nuclear war in a conflict

00:23:27.540 russia's developed advanced cyber capabilities and has attempted to pre-position access to u.s critical

00:23:34.340 infrastructure for asymmetric options and make it a persistent cyber threat russia's cyber activities have

00:23:41.220 been linked to multiple high-profile breaches including the 2023 hack of microsoft russia's also

00:23:47.700 fielding new capabilities and anti-satellite weapons meant to degrade u.s and allied space infrastructure

00:23:54.580 among russia's most concerning developments is a new satellite intended to carry a nuclear weapon as an

00:24:00.100 anti-satellite weapon violating long-standing international law against such activity and putting

00:24:05.780 the u.s and global economy at risk iran continues to seek to expand its influence in the middle east

00:24:14.580 despite the degradation to its proxies and defenses during the gaza conflict iran has developed and

00:24:21.220 maintains ballistic missiles cruise missiles and uavs including systems capable of striking u.s targets

00:24:26.980 and allies in the region they've shown a willingness to use these weapons including during a 2020 attack

00:24:32.900 on u.s forces in iraq and in attacks against israel in april and october 2024 iran's cyber operations

00:24:41.060 and capabilities also present a serious threat to u.s networks and data the ic continues to assess that

00:24:47.620 iran is not building a nuclear weapon and supreme leader khameini has not authorized the nuclear weapons

00:24:52.900 program that he suspended in 2003 we continue to monitor closely if tehran decides to reauthorize its

00:25:00.580 nuclear weapons program in the past year we've seen an erosion of a decades-long taboo in iran on

00:25:07.460 discussing nuclear weapons in public likely emboldening nuclear weapons advocates within iran's

00:25:13.060 decision-making apparatus iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented

00:25:20.580 for a state without nuclear weapons iran will likely continue efforts to counter israel and press for

00:25:27.140 u.s military withdrawal from the region by aiding arming and helping to reconstitute its loose

00:25:33.220 consortium of like-minded terrorist actors which it refers to as its axis of resistance although weakened

00:25:41.860 this collection of actors still presents a wide range of threats including to israel's population

00:25:48.180 u.s forces deployed in iraq and syria as well as u.s and international military and commercial shipping and

00:25:54.580 transit north korean leader kim jong-un is pursuing stronger strategic and conventional capabilities

00:26:01.700 that can target u.s forces and allies in the region as well as the u.s homeland to bolster north

00:26:07.700 korea's leverage and stature defend its regime and achieve at least tacit recognition as a nuclear weapons

00:26:15.300 power kim's recently cemented strategic partnership with russia supports these goals by providing him with

00:26:22.420 greater financial military and diplomatic support reducing its reliance on china and providing north

00:26:29.140 korean forces and weapons systems with war fighting experience kim views his strategic weapons advances

00:26:37.460 its deepening ties with russia and its economic durability as strengthening his negotiating position

00:26:42.980 against washington's demands for denuclearization and lessening kim's need for sanctions relief

00:26:49.140 since 2022 china russia iran and north korea have grown closer removing the accelerant of the war in

00:26:57.620 ukraine is unlikely to revert these bilateral relationships to a pre-war 2021 baseline leaving

00:27:04.820 room for new strategic priorities and world events to create new incentives or challenges to their expanded

00:27:11.540 cooperation russia has been a catalyst for much of this expansion driven heavily by the support it has needed

00:27:19.380 for its war against ukraine including protection from u.s and western sanctions in addition to exchange of

00:27:26.660 military and other resource capabilities with north korea russia has relied more heavily on china's

00:27:31.540 financial and defense industry backing and has increased combined military exercises with china with iran russia

00:27:39.780 has also expanded financial ties to mitigate sanctions iran has become a critical military supplier to russia

00:27:46.260 especially of uavs in exchange for russian technical support for iranian weapons intelligence and advanced

00:27:52.340 cyber capabilities the threats that we see to the u.s to to u.s national security are both complex and

00:28:00.340 multifaceted in closing i want to address briefly the signal chat issue that i know many of you are

00:28:07.060 concerned about the president and national security advisor waltz held a press conference yesterday with a

00:28:12.980 clear message it was a mistake that a reporter was inadvertently added to a signal chat with high

00:28:19.140 level national security principles having a policy discussion about imminent strikes against the houthis

00:28:25.700 and the effects of the strike national security advisor has taken full responsibility for this

00:28:32.820 and the national security council is conducting an in-depth review along with tech technical

00:28:38.420 experts working to determine how this reporter was inadvertently added to this chat the conversation

00:28:45.540 was candid and sensitive but as the president national security advisor stated no classified information

00:28:52.260 was shared there were no sources methods locations or war plans that were shared this was a standard update to

00:29:00.980 the national security cabinet that was provided alongside updates that were given to foreign partners

00:29:08.180 in the region the signal message app comes pre-installed on government devices

00:29:17.380 in december of 2024 cissa stated quote we strongly urge highly targeted individuals to immediately review

00:29:23.620 and apply best practices provided in the guidance to protect mobile communications including consistent

00:29:29.700 use of end-to-end encryption and they named signal as an app as an example of such an end-to-end

00:29:36.660 encrypted messaging app ideally these conversations occur in person however at times fast-moving

00:29:43.140 coordination of an unclassified nature is necessary where in-person conversation is not an option

00:29:49.460 i'm also aware that a suit was a lawsuit was filed yesterday on this issue as a result of that pending

00:29:57.140 litigation i'm limited in my ability to comment further on that specific case

00:30:02.420 my office of general counsel will be in close contact with the department of justice on this matter

00:30:08.900 the most important thing to the american people and to all of us is the success of this military

00:30:15.220 operation against terrorists who have been and continue to attack american service members

00:30:20.740 was extremely successful thanks to the leadership of president trump and the actions of our brave men

00:30:26.740 and women in uniform as the heads of america the american people's intelligence community we will

00:30:33.300 continue to provide the president you in congress and our war fighters with timely unbiased relevant

00:30:39.860 intelligence to keep our country secure free prosperous and at peace thank you mr chairman

00:30:49.380 thank you director gabbard gabbard we now turn to member questions i'll recognize myself

00:30:54.100 for five minutes i want to talk about before i get into the threats i want to um talk about something

00:31:02.500 we've talked about in this committee and in this setting before we've had ic agency leaders commit

00:31:08.900 to complying with our document requests but not follow through i don't know if this is due to

00:31:12.820 direction from previous administration or middle management obstruction but i find it you split

00:31:17.620 screen it um okay we're going to be calling a lot of audibles mtg's over also grilling pbs she's

00:31:23.780 on the dojo oversight committee right there here's the news tulsi gabbard i don't know double down triple

00:31:30.180 down makes the case for the signal app uh she did say at the time at uh she broke some news there her

00:31:37.860 legal counsel is in touch with the department of justice one of the things we warned about

00:31:43.620 yesterday and why we uh felt it was very important to uh it was very important to um make sure that

00:31:50.900 this thing did not merge uh with the radical judges over the washington dc what they want to do is put the

00:31:58.740 administration in a vice grip or have an anvil in a hammer think of the radical judges particularly

00:32:09.780 in the dc court led by bozberg that district court which he's the head judge of the district court not

00:32:16.180 the appellate the district court you've seen how radical he's been the administration had to had to

00:32:22.420 invoke the state secrets act on the deportation of the um and by the way let me know when we go back

00:32:29.460 to the democrat i'm going to produce live here as soon as you go back we want these democrats we

00:32:33.140 want to hear the the snarky questions they're asking uh our intelligence community the intelligence heads

00:32:40.180 um uh we're going to go back to radcliffe in a moment it doesn't mean he said that uh

00:32:44.660 they're there they filed a suit last night civil suit

00:32:47.140 it's supposed to be totally random how the judge is supposed to put it in and just spin a wheel

00:32:52.260 random bozberg gets the gets the call and they're going to go in for an emergency hearing either

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00:33:03.700 we're at an appellate court to even get him removed right he he is he has the commander-in-chief

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00:38:44.420 thank you i want to turn to director patel real quick in the in the time that i have left if you can

00:38:48.660 flesh this out for me just a little bit you indicated something that caught my attention in the in the

00:38:52.740 proceeding yesterday and that was your involvement with the judicial drug task force

00:38:58.340 that you partner with at the state level and how that has yielded positive results with regard to

00:39:03.620 uh cartel activity can you can you put a little finer point on that to describe those partnerships

00:39:08.820 in the in the 53 seconds we have remaining yeah i'll try to be brief mr chairman mr vice chairman

00:39:13.620 thanks for having us ranking member um my priorities at the fbi have been to partner with

00:39:18.260 state and local law enforcement in ways that we have not done so before particularly on information

00:39:22.980 sharing and it's a two-way street and in order for us to effectuate drug seizures and narcotics

00:39:27.780 interdictions in the 50 states we treat them as all border states because that's what's happening

00:39:32.180 we have an american citizen die of a drug overdose every seven minutes that is wildly out of

00:39:37.380 control and unacceptable but the fbi cannot do that mandate and secure the american people from

00:39:42.020 washington dc so we're putting resources in the field we're working with our partners at the

00:39:46.180 state and local level and we are seeing immediate results as we are seeing in arkansas as i outlined

00:39:51.140 yesterday with hundreds of arrests thousands of pounds of narcotics seized dozens of weapons and

00:39:56.500 multiple indictments thank you director i'm going to yield and recognize ranking member himes for five

00:40:02.340 minutes thank you mr chairman um if there's something i care as much about as the national security

00:40:08.260 united states it's the powers and prerogatives of this congress in its oversight duties uh so i want

00:40:13.220 to spend a minute or so on yesterday's testimony in front of the senate uh and direct these questions

00:40:17.620 in particular to uh director patel and director gabbard um yesterday senator heinrich asked did this

00:40:24.820 conversation referring to the signal chat include information on weapons packages targets or timing

00:40:31.940 director patel you said not that i'm aware of director gabbard you said same answer this morning we

00:40:39.140 learned that the signal chat included the following update forward looking update from the secretary of

00:40:46.820 defense time now 11 44 eastern time weather is favorable just confirmed with centcom we are go for

00:40:52.980 mission launch 12 15 eastern time f18 launch first strike package 13 45 trigger based f18 first strike

00:40:59.620 window starts target terrorist is at his known location so should be on time also strike drones launch mq9s

00:41:07.060 14 10 more f18s launch second strike package

00:41:13.460 do either of the directors want to reflect on their testimony yesterday in the context of what i just read

00:41:18.980 sure one i was not on that signal chat two i have not reviewed it and uh three as you just

00:41:24.260 indicated that was made public this morning but director you didn't prior to yesterday's

00:41:29.220 senate uh senate you were on this you were on the signal check correct no okay but did you review

00:41:33.540 did you review the material on the signal chat no i wasn't on it director gabbard

00:41:39.700 yes ranking member my answer yesterday was based on my recollection uh or the lack thereof

00:41:46.500 on the details that were posted there i was not and and the what was shared today reflects the fact that i was not directly involved with that part of

00:41:55.620 the signal chat and replied at the end uh reflecting the effects the very brief effects that the national

00:42:03.940 security advisor had shared so it's your testimony that less than two weeks ago you were on a signal chat

00:42:10.900 that had all of this information about f18s and mq9 reapers and targets on strike and you in that two

00:42:16.980 week period simply forgot that that was there that's your testimony my testimony is i did not recall the exact

00:42:22.820 details of what was included there that was not your testimony your temp testimony was that you were

00:42:29.380 not aware of anything related to weapons packages targets and timing as the testimony yesterday continued

00:42:37.700 on there were further questions related to that where i acknowledged that there was a conversation about

00:42:44.900 weapons and i don't remember the exact wording that i used but i did not recall the specific

00:42:52.260 details that were included director gabbard we've you've reasserted that there was no classified

00:43:00.100 information i think we can all agree that that information shouldn't have been out there but let me ask

00:43:04.500 you this are you familiar with the odni's classification guidance i'm familiar actually got a copy right here

00:43:12.740 if i read you a part of that guidance i wonder if you could tell me what the level of classification

00:43:18.740 indicated is i'm reading from your classification guidance and the criteria is information providing

00:43:26.580 indication or advance warning that the u.s or its allies are preparing an attack do you recall what

00:43:34.100 the your own guidance would suggest that that be classified i don't have the specifics in front of

00:43:40.180 me but it would point to uh what was shared would fall under the dod's classification system

00:43:46.420 and the secretary of defense's uh authority let me help you because there's a very clear answer

00:43:51.620 what is not you don't i guess you don't have it but information providing in this is the odni guidance

00:43:58.020 information providing indication or advance warning that the u.s or its allies are preparing an attack

00:44:03.060 should be classified as top secret do you disagree with that i don't disagree with that i just point out

00:44:10.260 that the dod classification uh guidance is uh separate from the odni's classification guidance

00:44:18.340 do you think it would be materially differently ultimately the secretary of defense holds the

00:44:22.740 authority to classify or declassify do you think it's likely that dod guidance is materially different from

00:44:29.540 what i just read i haven't reviewed the dod guidance so i can't comment

00:44:40.260 director gabbard um a lot of this suggests sort of a lack of sobriety when there's punch emojis and

00:44:47.620 fire emojis it's a lack of sobriety uh i don't mean that literally um but i have one last question for

00:44:54.980 you uh because i think people really listen to what you have to say um you on march 15th as dni

00:45:03.460 retweeted a post from ian miles chong who is listed on rt that's russia today's website

00:45:09.620 as quote a political and cultural commentator who has contributed content to rt since at least 2022

00:45:18.900 director gabbard do you think that it's responsible for you as head of the intelligence community and

00:45:23.140 the principal's presidential uh intelligence advisor to retweet posts from individuals affiliated with

00:45:30.660 russian state media that retweet came from my personal account and i would have to go back to look

00:45:37.380 at the substance of the tweet can i just to lack just so that we don't have a lack of confusion

00:45:43.380 amongst our allies and enemies and us can i act perhaps that you not think that you should be

00:45:47.620 saying one thing on your personal account then you say officially i maintain my first amendment rights

00:45:53.860 to be able to express my own personal views on different issues thank you i yield back mr chairman

00:45:58.820 gentleman yields and i recognize the distinguished vice chairman general kelly yeah i now for the first 30

00:46:05.300 seconds uh mr ratcliffe or uh director ratcliffe uh formerly known as texas from this mississippi guy

00:46:13.140 i'd like to give you 30 seconds if you have anything to respond uh to to what uh miss gabbard just uh

00:46:21.620 director gabbard i'm sorry just said well mississippi it's good to see you again um and i appreciate the

00:46:28.580 opportunity you know there's so much talk about this um atlantic article and about um things that

00:46:34.740 were said and that could have happened instead of a focus on what did happen so my responsibility as cia

00:46:41.300 director one of its responsibilities is to kill terrorists and that's exactly what i did along with

00:46:47.940 president trump's excellent national national security team that's what we should be focused on

00:46:54.340 with regard to that article i also would appreciate the opportunity to relay the fact that yesterday

00:47:00.660 i spent four hours answering questions from senators as a result of that article that were intimating

00:47:07.140 that i transmitted classified information because there were hidden messages those messages were

00:47:12.900 revealed today and revealed that i did not transmit classified information and that the reporter who i

00:47:19.620 don't know i think intentionally intended it to indicate that that reporter also indicated that i

00:47:27.140 had released the name of an undercover cia operative in that signal chat in fact i had released the name of

00:47:34.180 my chief of staff who is not operating undercover that was deliberately false and misleading and i appreciate

00:47:43.380 the opportunity to reflect that my answers haven't changed i used an appropriate channel to communicate

00:47:49.060 sensitive information it was permissible to do so i didn't transfer any classified information

00:47:56.180 um and and at the end of the day um what is most important is that the mission was a remarkable

00:48:03.780 success is what everyone should be focused on here because that's what did happen not what possibly could

00:48:09.940 have happened thank you director ratcliffe uh director patel uh thank you for the great job that you've

00:48:18.500 done so uh first of all your coordination and trying to comply with the letter that was sent last year and

00:48:26.180 the year before asking for the baseball shooting of which uh what i got was basically what happened on

00:48:33.300 the field and i was there so i don't need to know that although no one from the fbi ever talked to me

00:48:38.340 about what happened they talked to people who were not there but i appreciate your commitment to getting

00:48:44.100 us the full unredacted report or the redactions are to protect innocent people who were not part of

00:48:51.460 the process not the people who made decisions to classify that as suicide by cop as opposed to an

00:48:58.020 assassination attempt of many members of congress of which i was one thank you for your commitment

00:49:04.340 director patel because i know that you will give us what we have asked for so that we can put this to

00:49:09.860 arrest mr winstrup myself and several others uh can i get your commitment to do that director patel uh

00:49:15.620 in fact i just got an update uh mr vice chairman for my team you'll have all of those materials to

00:49:20.820 you and your committee um by the close of business today or at the latest tomorrow morning and just

00:49:26.820 really quickly uh director ratcliffe and and i don't want to go over time i think it's so important

00:49:31.780 for everybody to have their time can you tell me the impact that doge has had uh in causing you to fire

00:49:38.420 people you shouldn't have fired or release people who are uh instruments of national security no longer

00:49:43.860 there tell me if you've had any impact specifically that doge has caused you to lose someone who was

00:49:49.780 necessary for national security um given the fact that um as of this date um no one from doge has been

00:49:57.380 on the cia campus and i've had no direct communication with doge other than conversations with elon musk at

00:50:04.660 cabinet meetings um i would say the impact is zero director patel uh i'm in a similar situation uh we

00:50:14.180 do work with doge um on government efficiencies but i have not seen any negative impacts at the fbi

00:50:21.300 thank you very much and uh director gabbard uh it's good to see you again too uh you know i think we

00:50:27.300 were freshmen together you and i and director ratcliffe and i'm here and you guys are like there have you

00:50:32.820 seen any impact across the whole i see that doge has caused things that you can't respond to thank

00:50:38.660 you congressman it's great to to see you all again here uh the answer is no uh similar with director

00:50:45.380 uh ratcliffe doge has not been at odni uh the president understands the essential national security

00:50:54.340 mission that we have uh and we are going through our own internal assessments to ensure we're achieving

00:51:01.140 the effects uh in an efficient way that is responsible to the american taxpayer your back

00:51:06.660 mr chairman gentleman yields mr carson thank you chairman to the witnesses many of whom i've worked

00:51:12.980 with in the past it appears that this year's report omitted any discussion of trans national concerns

00:51:19.140 like global health security infectious diseases and the role of conflict violence and political

00:51:24.660 instability play as drivers of migration coupled with the administration's cuts to usaid and other

00:51:31.460 international assistance particularly health and humanitarian assistance won't these reductions

00:51:36.900 and eliminations increase regional instability and volatility in areas already at high risk for

00:51:43.620 threats was the ic consulted at all in the decisions to eliminate such critical funding

00:51:49.140 and why weren't these risks included in this year's report uh thank you for the question congressman mtg's

00:51:59.380 a hearing get a taste of her putting a pbs under the doge watch let's go to that we'll come back to

00:52:04.580 intelligence compliance and with the fcc's inquiry and we'll continue to cooperate i remind you you're

00:52:10.820 under oath and um violations of of the communications act comes with a fine up to ten thousand dollars and

00:52:18.260 possibly up to a year in prison does pbs air for for-profit commercials miss kerger we air underwriting

00:52:26.740 announcements and we believe we are in full compliance with the fcc and we look forward to

00:52:31.140 delivering the material required in this part of this investigation we look forward to that too

00:52:36.580 i'm assuming you're concerned both of you are concerned about this and that's why you brought

00:52:40.100 so many attorneys with you today miss kerger using taxpayer subsidies pbs funded independent lens to

00:52:46.900 make documentaries for part of your programming in 2016 real boy was aired about a trans teen navigating

00:52:54.580 adolescent sobriety and the ramification of his gender identity in 2022 the same series aired our league

00:53:02.500 in which a trans woman comes to her old school ohio bowling league in a story about transition then

00:53:09.140 in 2024 a racist trees was aired telling a story of how in palm springs a black neighborhood fights to

00:53:16.340 remove a divisive wall of trees do you think pbs finds needs to fund ridiculous materials such as this

00:53:24.580 that the taxpayers are having to pay for these are documentary films that are point of view pieces that

00:53:30.580 are part of our prime time schedule for adults and parents and adults don't trust that type of

00:53:36.500 programming thank you madam chair uh i ask a unanimous consent uh to enter into the record uh this letter

00:53:49.780 from 72 public radio stations serving rural communities across the country uh where they emphasize how important

00:53:57.780 federal funding is to the ability to provide vital public safety information without objection so

00:54:03.700 ordered okay i also have a similar letter from georgia from the uh georgia pbs npr station also asking for

00:54:13.620 consideration for federal funding without objection so ordered thank you uh ms kerger and and ms mar

00:54:21.460 uh can we talk a little bit about uh the educational um

00:54:30.340 service you provide for for children of low-income families and and how that um that is received and uh

00:54:40.500 the trust that you've generated among among families in that situation yes a significant part of our

00:54:46.660 broadcast day uh is devoted to programming for children we focus on preschool uh that is goes

00:54:54.900 back to the legacy of fred rogers who believed that media could be a tool to help to instruct children

00:55:00.660 as well as a tool of entertainment our programming is focused on core skills that kids need to develop

00:55:06.900 before they enter school in math and in learning numbers and in learning letters so that kids that

00:55:14.740 don't have the opportunity to be in a formal pre-k program have a chance to walk into school for

00:55:20.500 the first time on equal footing with kids that have more opportunity and that's the heart of what we

00:55:26.180 think about in the programming that we develop for kids i know you've done some well independent uh

00:55:32.660 groups have done uh assessments on um on trust the trust factor that that parents have uh on pbs kids

00:55:42.260 which is one of your most popular um services uh can you can you talk about that where did you come

00:55:49.620 in in terms of the the um you know the the comparison to other stations yeah we're we are the most trusted

00:55:57.220 media brand in fact parents magazine this week just run the ran the results of a study that was done

00:56:02.500 on daniel tiger's neighborhood actually looking at 16 year olds that remember some of the basic skills

00:56:08.100 they learned as small children and what we're focused on is to make sure again that every child

00:56:14.020 has the opportunity to learn and be excited about about the world around them when they enter

00:56:19.220 a school for the first time and to give them those core basic skills that we can see they carry forward

00:56:25.620 in life uh miss maher i'd like you to focus on um the work that public media is doing in relation to

00:56:35.220 public safety communications um how important is is this function of of public broadcast media

00:56:42.820 particularly i'm talking about the most rural uh most remote communities in this country

00:56:50.660 thank you so much congressman we are part of the national next generation warning system for which

00:56:56.340 we've received a significant investment over the course of the last few years and many thanks to

00:57:01.460 congress for supporting that appropriation our stations are busy implementing that across the

00:57:06.500 nation we also are part of the national or sorry excuse me the statewide emergency plans for more than 20

00:57:13.380 states you'll see the importance and value of public radio in particular when we face climate or sorry

00:57:21.460 excuse me extreme weather okay here we go uh we're gonna go back to intel two things are happening at the

00:57:26.660 same time here today there is a uh hearing on which mtg is running to defund pbs and make pbs defend

00:57:35.780 all this transgender and uh basically marxist cultural ideology they put into little kids heads and uh

00:57:42.020 pbs not doing a very job mtg on the attack there she's sharing that subcommittee back at the house

00:57:47.620 intelligence tulsi gabbard tripling down ratcliffe doubling down going back to the testimony yesterday said

00:57:54.580 what they said was 100 accurate uh there's going to be i'm sure some fireworks from these uh democratic uh congressmen

00:58:02.100 as they try to chop block uh president trump's intelligence team big news is that the courts are getting

00:58:08.900 involved uh uh bozberg is taking on a civil suit against pete hegseth he's put himself right in the middle of this as we

00:58:16.500 said he would they're going to use the federal courts as the anvil the deep state's going to be the hammer that's what

00:58:21.380 president trump and his team are uh are up against uh also uh wobbly uh rhinos wicker of south carolina

00:58:30.260 has said that he's going to initiate a uh a senate armed services investigation with jack reed who you

00:58:37.220 saw jack reed on the attack yesterday on the intel side let's go back to the testimony in the uh

00:58:42.500 intelligence committee um with probably the most pressing present one in terms of 702 query reviews we

00:58:49.140 only have about 200 left when it comes to us persons and we will promulgate that those findings to you

00:58:54.820 but as of today of all the us persons queried in the 702 databases there's only been one instance of

00:59:01.620 negligent conduct we have already implemented um limited access to those who actually know how to

00:59:07.620 use the fisa process in 702 and we have implemented a direct reporting structure to the office of director

00:59:13.380 and the deputy director to make sure that anyone anyone whether it's intentional or unintentional

00:59:19.460 abuses the 702 query system is brought to our attention immediately and we will take that on

00:59:23.940 for action directly and in terms of piggybacking off director ratcliffe's

00:59:29.940 the public defender in me realizes the importance of constitutional due process more than anyone

00:59:34.260 the staffer in me from the house intelligence committee may be the only person who has worked

00:59:38.260 more on fisa reform and exposing fisa abuse in modern congressional history and the terrorism

00:59:43.060 prosecutor in me and the jsoc civilian in me tells me that we cannot do away with 702 or fisa title one

00:59:48.820 and title three but we can work with you and your committee to make it better i don't know all those ideas i

00:59:54.580 don't have all those answers but you you have my commitment that we will use it um appropriately going

00:59:59.540 forward thank you director i yield back gentleman yields mr castro uh thank you chairman um tulsi you and i

01:00:06.260 came into the congress together in 2013 and cash you and i i was serving on the intelligence committee

01:00:11.860 when you worked on the intelligence committee and john you and i are both from texas and we both served

01:00:16.420 together on the intelligence committee uh you know the idea that this information if it was presented to

01:00:24.020 our committee would not be classified you all know is a lie that's ridiculous i've seen things much

01:00:31.380 less sensitive be presented to us with high classification and to say that it isn't is a

01:00:38.900 lie to the country i want to ask the generals now the nsa is principally in charge of intercepting things

01:00:46.500 like signals intelligence from other countries general i want to ask you if your organization your

01:00:54.180 agency intercepted something like this from russia or china or some other country would you consider

01:01:00.180 this classified information uh represent we we would be classifying based off of our sources and

01:01:07.940 methods so those would be the things that in terms of how we process how we would be able to obtain

01:01:13.780 the information and how we'd report it we would classify based off of our source and so if you knew

01:01:19.140 that the secretary of defense and the national security advisor of russia or china and the the head of

01:01:25.700 the foreign ministry and all of the folks who were associated with that that signal chain if you

01:01:31.300 intercepted that information general would you consider it classified so it would be classified based

01:01:38.180 off of our collection so the nsa would classify it would based off the protection of our own source and

01:01:45.220 method not necessarily based off the content but how we collected that information but it would be classified

01:01:51.220 well we certainly wouldn't be collecting on a u.s person conversation no i understand i'm saying if we

01:01:59.780 want to but if you did your job and collected it from uh the russian foreign ministry and the national

01:02:06.100 security advisor and the the secretary of defense and the president's chief advisor there is no way

01:02:13.940 no way having sat on this committee for nine years that somebody would come in with that information

01:02:20.420 and give us something that says unclassified you can walk out of this room with this information

01:02:26.100 and give it to whomever you want you know with all respect you and i worked on the committee at the

01:02:32.180 same time tulsi you and i came in together we've never had an issue of beef with you john you and i

01:02:37.620 are both from texas y'all know that's a lie it's a lie to the country i want to ask about the alien enemies

01:02:45.460 act really quick while i have time the president has used the alien enemies act a wartime authority

01:02:51.380 last used to detain german and japanese nationals during world war ii to summarily deport people

01:02:57.940 accused of being members of the venezuelan gang trend the agua to invoke this law the president must

01:03:04.340 demonstrate that the united states is under invasion by a foreign foreign nation or government they have

01:03:09.780 alleged that we are under invasion by the venezuelan government the idea that we are at war with venezuela

01:03:15.620 would come as a surprise to most americans the unclassified version of the annual threat

01:03:20.500 assessment the intelligence community just released makes no mention of any invasion or war

01:03:26.820 that we are fighting with the nation of venezuela you would think our nation being at war would merit

01:03:32.260 at least a small reference in this threat assessment and director ratcliffe does the intelligence

01:03:38.340 community assess that we are currently at war or being invaded by the nation of venezuela we have

01:03:45.300 no assessment that says that thank you in invoking the law the president alleged that trenda agua is

01:03:51.460 quote undertaking hostile actions against the u.s at the direction condescent clandestine or otherwise

01:03:58.180 of the maduro regime in venezuela director gabbert does the intelligence community says that the

01:04:04.660 venezuelan government is directing trenda agua's hostile actions against the united states

01:04:13.060 there are varied assessments uh that came from different intelligence community elements

01:04:19.780 i'll defer to director patel to speak specifically to the fbi assessment

01:04:24.980 but let me ask you so you're saying there are conflicting assessments that have come from the icd

01:04:33.220 that's correct okay thank you we'll take it up in closed session all right

01:04:38.420 you know your threat assessment makes issue of um highlights fentanyl trafficking as a top

01:04:49.060 throughout the united states yet support for law enforcement cooperation with mexico has been put on

01:04:54.580 hold and there has been a threat of invasion to mexico by the united states you assess that russia's

01:05:01.300 advanced cyber capabilities make it a persistent counterintelligence cyber threat yet the administration

01:05:06.260 shut down the unit at the cyber security infrastructure agency tasked with stopping russian cyber

01:05:11.620 attacks there are so many other ways that the actions of this administration have contradicted

01:05:16.820 this threat assessment and the administration is making the world and the united states more dangerous

01:05:22.260 i go back gentleman yields gentleman from pennsylvania mr fitzpatrick thank you chairman crawford

01:05:27.700 thank you to all of our witnesses for being here i look forward to working uh with each and every one

01:05:31.540 of you to keep our country and our planet safe i wanted to carry on on the topic of section 702

01:05:37.460 reauthorization representative la hood and i did a lot of work on this over the past two years as you

01:05:44.260 all know last congress's committee worked in a bipartisan manner to advance the reauthorization

01:05:49.940 of what most of us have not all deemed to be our country's single most important national security tool

01:05:55.780 uh the result was what was titled the reforming intelligence and securing america act which not

01:06:02.260 only reauthorized section 702 but equally important and provided necessary reforms to our intelligence

01:06:08.180 community in an effort to address past abuses this was the largest single reform of the fbi and the ic

01:06:16.420 in a generation making sure that there are appropriate compliance guardrails

01:06:21.460 that enhance accountability while still protecting the critical tools necessary for our nation's

01:06:26.820 security just to name a few in 2009 section 702 protected our nation from an attack by an al-qaeda

01:06:33.940 member who intended to detonate explosives in the manhattan subway lines in 2014 section 702 helped prevent

01:06:41.300 attacks by assisting in the removal of ISIS leader hygi Ahmad 702 is important but we're trying to get a lot

01:06:48.260 done today in a limited amount of time the democrats are going to come back right there

01:06:52.420 congressman castro called uh rackliff they had the cia and tulsi gabbard liars to their face about their

01:06:58.180 testimony uh so there'll be much more of this later i want to go our crack team was able to cut uh

01:07:03.860 congressman comer of kentucky in a full lighten up uh pbs i want to go ahead and play this in its entirety

01:07:09.940 let's go ahead and play it you uh for the audience madam chair mr olman i'm glad you brought up a

01:07:15.380 point it's been mentioned a couple of times already at the early start of this hearing

01:07:20.740 about rural and remote and and i have to tell the story when i graduated from college with a degree

01:07:26.740 in agriculture i went back to rural monroe county kentucky uh and worked on a farm my farm for five

01:07:34.740 years full-time uh farm to this day but full-time i was in a tractor sometimes 10 12 14 hours a day and i

01:07:43.460 listened to the radio and the only radio station i could get that had news was was public radio so i

01:07:51.460 listened to as many hours of public radio as anyone on this panel i can assure you and it was a it was

01:07:57.780 a great service that was 30 some years ago today in that same remote area i mean you've got sirius xm

01:08:05.940 you've got podcasts there's internet access now there's a whole menu of of media options now so but

01:08:15.460 over time and i still occasionally listen to npr because i just want to hear what they have to say

01:08:22.100 and i don't even recognize the station anymore it's not news it i feel like it's propaganda i feel like

01:08:31.140 there's disinformation every time i listen to npr and you know a media entity like msnbc or huffington

01:08:39.940 post that in my opinion consistently spews disinformation they can do that that's they're

01:08:45.780 a private company but npr gets federal funds and and you know i have a problem with that because if

01:08:53.060 people in in alaska if all they have is public radio then all they know is what these headlines

01:09:00.980 say and they're wrong about covet 19 and the headlines in the background don't have time to

01:09:06.660 go over all these headlines that are wrong about russian collusion wrong wrong about the hunter biden

01:09:14.420 laptop wrong and then there's a story about me and part of what we went through on this committee

01:09:21.540 during the biden investigation which by the way ended with joe biden's last act as president of

01:09:26.980 the united states pardoned his entire family preemptively for an 11-year period which just

01:09:32.660 so happened to be the 11-year period that this committee investigated the biden that we had

01:09:37.380 subpoenaed bank records i don't think npr reported about the pardons but they reported a lot about

01:09:43.860 how the there was no evidence of any wrongdoing and things that just weren't true in fact there's a

01:09:50.660 story npr lawmaker lawmaker leading hunter biden house investigation accused of owning a shell

01:09:58.500 company well that's me miss mayor do you are you familiar with that that story that npr wrote about

01:10:06.020 me at the height of the biden investigation when when you all were disputing every aspect of our

01:10:12.980 investigation that is 100 factual we have hundreds of pages of evidence hundreds of pages of bank

01:10:21.540 records hundreds of pages of emails do you remember the story that that npr wrote about about me saying

01:10:27.620 i had a shell company uh congressman i was not at npr at the time and i'm unfamiliar with the story

01:10:32.820 where do you get your sources on something like that's a very serious accusation because we're

01:10:37.940 investigating a president and his family who had 28 shell companies i have an llc had five properties

01:10:45.700 in it it's in my financial disclosure form i've gone into great detail given lots of interviews but but

01:10:52.500 people that listen to npr they're totally disinformed on the truth and and you know i have a problem with

01:11:02.900 that because you get federal funds and i do believe there was a role for public radio 30 years ago maybe

01:11:10.260 20 years ago maybe five years ago but because of technology today i don't think there's a role for

01:11:17.060 public radio anymore and i think you've abused the privilege that that you had with receiving federal funds

01:11:26.660 because these headlines here are not true this is disinformation on on some huge topics

01:11:35.780 do you want to dispute anything that i said in the in the remaining 30 seconds thank you congressman

01:11:40.900 first of all i want to recognize your concerns one of the first things that i did in coming in in may

01:11:45.780 was to beef up our editorial standards i directed my editor-in-chief by the way

01:11:50.820 comber nailed him right there let's go let's go to the house intel right now back information shall

01:11:58.020 be classified if it's unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause describable

01:12:04.260 damage to national security this includes military plans weapon systems or operations you don't disagree

01:12:11.860 that i quoted that accurately right that's also an accurate quote can i show you the i'd like to show

01:12:17.540 you the text that secretary hegseth actually published to the world now lieutenant general cruz

01:12:27.220 as ranking member hymes said it says time now weather is favorable just confirmed with centcom

01:12:33.460 we are a go for mission launch then it says at 12 15 eastern f-18 f-18s launch first strike package

01:12:42.980 f-18s are military systems correct weapon systems they are okay 1345 trigger-based f-18 first strike

01:12:52.580 window starts target terrorist is at his known location so should be on time also strike drones launch mq-9s

01:13:02.100 mq-9s is a weapon system correct they are okay i think applying the executive order as well as the dod manual

01:13:12.100 to this fact pattern we clearly have weapon systems that have been identified that is classified

01:13:17.940 information now the reason why it's important that this information not be disclosed is that we don't

01:13:25.140 want the adversaries to know what's about to happen right sir well i would draw a small distinction there

01:13:32.580 you you referenced and asked if uh that platform those two platforms are weapon systems they are but those

01:13:38.500 terms are used all across the globe in a lot of contexts so it's really about how they're used in

01:13:43.460 the context of this particular document i just want to clarify that the use of those i understand in

01:13:49.140 this in this situation those are operational details uh they are operational details um but again as you

01:13:57.620 quoted the dod instruction it's about operations so as you further go down into what are the operational

01:14:03.380 details i think as we had a discussion yesterday uh the important aspect i think all of us are

01:14:08.420 very familiar with this is classified information this is classified information it's a weapon system as

01:14:14.500 well as sequence of strikes as well as details about the operations and so i think that just piggybacking

01:14:24.820 off of what some other members have said using the dod's manual as well as the executive order in operation

01:14:31.940 today with the trump administration this text message is clearly classified information secretary

01:14:39.220 hegseth has disclosed military plans as well as classified information he needs to resign immediately

01:14:46.100 he needs to resign immediately and a full investigation needs to be undertaken with regard to

01:14:52.500 whether other similar signal chats are occurring in this administration i'd like to turn my attention to

01:14:59.460 another topic director patel according to the doj in 2022 the fbi-led joint terrorism task force jttf

01:15:08.580 in my hometown of chicago valiantly led efforts to prevent a plot to attack naval station great lakes

01:15:15.140 in illinois you don't dispute that do you sir i'm not familiar with it but i don't dispute what you're

01:15:19.620 telling me thank you um a memo obtained by abc7 news of chicago said that this task force will now be quote

01:15:26.820 actively supporting close quote the department of homeland security and its immigration enforcement

01:15:31.860 you don't dispute that either do you i'm just not familiar with it sir okay

01:15:36.900 sir i just have to say the doj has now tasked jttfs to

01:15:41.780 shift some resources to immigration enforcement efforts and i don't say this lightly if there's a

01:15:47.540 terrorist attack anywhere in the country including in chicago

01:15:50.660 and it was because the jtts in part shifted resources they'll be held to pay thank you sir

01:15:58.100 gentleman's time is expired gentleman from georgia mr scott thank you mr chairman director

01:16:02.500 gabbard was the target terrorist named in the text or was it simply referred to as target terrorist

01:16:08.980 the target was not named thank you was the location named congressman no no locations were named

01:16:18.500 thank you uh director patel um there was a specific accusation made about uh how close we are working

01:16:27.860 with uh mexico currently my understanding and i want to congratulate you on this and i think it shows a

01:16:34.020 shift of focus at the fbi since you've taken over to what it should have been doing all along which is

01:16:39.140 which is chasing the 10 most wanted uh that are threatening our country my understanding is that

01:16:46.820 two of the three were actually arrested in mexico and are being extradited back to the united states

01:16:51.780 is that correct yes sir uh we have been working one of the first meetings i took as fbi director was

01:16:57.140 my counterpart secretary for rouge in mexico and subsequent to that we have um repaid or extradited

01:17:04.020 or expelled from mexico to top 10 of the fbi's most wanted list and 33 other criminals well it sounds

01:17:11.860 me like we're working closer with them today than we have in the last several years and that the focus

01:17:17.940 of the fbi has shifted to actually protecting american citizens instead of uh arresting pro-life

01:17:24.660 there's cash patel so we're trying to juggle two things today right there you saw the uh democratic

01:17:30.580 representative uh from illinois call for the immediate uh firing of uh pete hexeth that pete hexeth would not

01:17:38.260 uh resign as secretary of defense well that's not going to happen so um it's going to be more

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01:18:11.700 the results of all this are a bunch of uh dead bad guys in uh in the southern tip of the arabian

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Bannon's War Room - March 26, 2025

Episode 4365： Explosive Attacks In House Intelligence Subcommittee

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