Bannon's War Room - Episode 4370： Judge Boasberg Weighs In On Signalgate

00:00:00.000 Check it out. Is that? I'll give you a second. Let me put it on. There you go. Hold up.

00:00:06.940 That could be it. That's legislation. That's going to be. Take it over. It's all yours.

00:00:13.840 Bowling, you go from, you go, Eric, you see, you got range. You can go from the very serious

00:00:19.260 to the comedic, you know, instantaneously. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, Eric.

00:00:24.040 Thank you, man. Eric Bowling, the great. Thank you, brother. So just for programming,

00:00:32.580 President Trump was supposed to sign the executive orders earlier in the day. It was closed press

00:00:37.580 because sometimes what they do is they is a film it live to tape and then put it up later. I hope

00:00:43.400 the White House has solved the the streaming problem they had yesterday. We did notify them.

00:00:49.540 I think they were looking into it. Our current understanding is it going to be at six o'clock

00:00:55.300 tonight during our show. The second hour, they are going to have ears and we understand they may

00:00:59.000 even make it open to press. We hope that's the case. And we hope our hope our Brian Glenn's there.

00:01:05.060 But even if not, the press will be there and President Trump's your whole court. So we'll do

00:01:08.820 that. We got a lot to go through in the first hour. We have a great cold open that sets forth

00:01:12.840 what's happened to an incredible day for news and strategic news. Let's see it. I'll come in,

00:01:18.780 put it all in context. The president has to hold people accountable when things like this happen.

00:01:25.060 It is not fair to everybody who puts their life on the line to serve this great country.

00:01:31.380 It's not fair to them. So somebody should be held accountable. It should be the secretary of defense

00:01:35.980 in my view, in this case. Pete Hagseth and Mike Walls should resign immediately. They cannot be trusted

00:01:44.240 to protect our national security. This week, we saw that they shared classified military attack

00:01:52.100 plans on an unsecure platform with a random journalist included. Then they lied to the American

00:01:59.300 people about it and doubled down on that lie even after being caught red handed. Secretary of defense,

00:02:07.060 Pete Hagseth should resign. He recklessly texted operational details of military strikes,

00:02:14.020 including time, place, location and sequencing of those strikes to a journalist.

00:02:20.180 Had that information gotten to the Houthis, American pilots could have been shot down. Navy sailors could

00:02:26.340 have been targeted. His reckless actions endangered the lives of American troops, endangered our national

00:02:32.500 security and makes it so that our allies don't want to share sensitive classified information with us

00:02:38.980 anymore. Pete Hagseth should resign. Yeah. Right. I mean, and frankly, every person on that chat

00:02:45.620 should resign and never in their lifetime have access to classified material because these morons expose 1.00

00:02:53.220 our military with their idiocy of just putting it into a group chat and not even not one of them said, 1.00

00:03:00.660 hey, who is this other person in here that's not responding? Right. Like it wasn't like he was 0.99

00:03:05.780 pretending to be someone else. He just like wasn't responding. Ultimately, the buck stops with the

00:03:11.140 president of the United States of America, which is why I made clear to President Trump yesterday in

00:03:16.260 my correspondence that the secretary of defense should be fired immediately if he's not man enough

00:03:22.740 to own up to his mistakes and resign in disgrace. 16 Democratic senators who signed a letter today asking

00:03:30.100 for, frankly, a more sprawling investigative action beyond what we just talked about. Do you think

00:03:35.860 ultimately the reality will lie somewhere in the middle? Are you more likely to have to,

00:03:41.460 for lack of a better phrase, take what you can get from your Republican colleagues? Where is this

00:03:46.500 realistically going? I'm hoping for an even more aggressive, comprehensive investigative effort

00:03:54.180 that will be bipartisan. This step asking for the inspector general of the defense department to

00:04:00.900 do an inquiry is a good one. Very positive, bipartisan step. But these investigations by inspectors

00:04:08.580 general often take months, sometimes years. And this one has to be prompt, penetrating and unsparing. And

00:04:16.660 in the meantime, let's be very blunt here. There was a likely crime committed under the Espionage Act,

00:04:24.500 under the Federal Records Act. There should be a criminal investigation. I think there's grounds for

00:04:30.420 a prosecution. But ultimately, the evidence has to be assessed after the FBI, which has a criminal

00:04:39.220 national security unit to do an objective and independent investigation that could produce a

00:04:46.020 prosecution. I also think that both Hegseth and Walsh need to resign or be fired.

00:04:52.820 Breaking news that the White House is preparing to pull Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik's

00:04:57.860 nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations. NBC's Melanie Zinona broke this story. She joins us

00:05:03.620 from Capitol Hill. What more do we know, Melanie? Yeah, well, it hasn't officially been pulled yet. We are

00:05:08.980 waiting for a potential social media post from President Donald Trump to officially announce this. But

00:05:13.860 based on several sources that I spoke to, that is indeed the plan, is that the White House is going

00:05:19.380 to withdraw her nomination to be the ambassador to the United Nations. And CBS first reported earlier

00:05:26.980 that this was something that was being considered today. Now we know that is likely to happen and is

00:05:31.860 going to happen potentially within the next hour here. Now, we had also reported a few weeks ago that

00:05:38.100 her nomination had been on ice. And the primary reason at that time was that there was concern

00:05:44.500 from the White House over the razor thin majorities in the House. Remember, having her leave would narrow 1.00

00:05:50.740 the already thin majority by yet another member until she is replaced in her Senate seat, which could

00:05:56.740 take months. And there is a Democratic governor in New York where she is from. So it's just really

00:06:00.500 uncertain how long that process would take. But I'll point out what's slightly different in this case

00:06:05.940 right now, in this moment in time, is that Republicans are set to get back at least two

00:06:10.420 of the seats that have been unfilled over these last few months. There's a special election next

00:06:16.420 week for two Florida seats. That's for Michael Waltz, who left Congress to serve as the national security

00:06:23.940 advisor. And then Congressman Matt Gaetz, who also left to try to serve as the AG nominee,

00:06:32.740 although he ended up pulling out of the running a few days later. So Republicans are going to get

00:06:37.300 their margins up pretty soon here. So the timing about this withdrawal is pretty interesting,

00:06:42.340 to say the least. But nonetheless, the bottom line is that Elise Stefanik, someone who has been a

00:06:47.700 Trump loyalist, was one of the first members of Congress to endorse Trump after January 6th to run

00:06:52.900 for president, someone who's just been behind the president every turn. She even gave up her leadership 0.99

00:06:57.460 post here in the House in order to eventually leave Congress. I mean, she's been posting all

00:07:02.820 week on Instagram about how she's doing a tribute to all of her favorite moments in the House. There's

00:07:07.620 supposed to be a toast to her with leadership on Monday night saying goodbye to her. It looks like

00:07:12.020 she is not going to be leaving, at least for that United Nations ambassador post anytime soon.

00:07:17.140 Of course, we've got two specials next week in Florida. Two specials we'll be watching on Tuesday.

00:07:22.340 Chapin. And there is talk that Democrats think they can flip a seat here. Republicans in the state

00:07:27.620 think Senator Randy Fine will be all right. But is that why we're having this conversation,

00:07:33.540 because of what's up in Florida? It certainly is playing a role. I think you're seeing the

00:07:39.540 Democratic candidate running a little bit stronger than probably anyone anticipated. So they are,

00:07:46.020 you know, I think the Republicans are ultimately be safe. But this is the calculation,

00:07:51.700 right? And they're watching this. And, you know, Virginia's point, right? A lot of the Trump agenda

00:07:56.900 hinges on congressional support. I mean, almost all of Doge, right? If they're going to implement

00:08:01.460 any of these, any of these recommendations stuff that's going to come next year, they need a

00:08:07.940 willing Congress. And you've seen some Republicans like to, you know, do their, have a little

00:08:12.820 independent streak, right? So you can't always guarantee on 100% in your caucus. So all of this makes

00:08:19.300 sense to me. It's, it's the right thing to worry about. It's unfortunate for, you know,

00:08:24.340 Congresswoman Stefanik, you know, having her sights set on the ambassador role, but getting the 1.00

00:08:30.420 president's agenda passed is the most important thing for Republicans in the Beltway, for sure.

00:08:35.300 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on

00:08:46.900 these people. I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people, the people have had a

00:08:53.700 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the

00:08:57.380 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like

00:09:00.980 that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people

00:09:08.900 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

00:09:16.660 country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:09:23.700 It's Thursday, 27 March in the year of our Lord, 2025, an explosive day on Capitol Hill and through

00:09:37.660 other parts of the world. We're going to cover it all. I want to, I'm going to replay momentarily

00:09:42.660 in the next block when I have Mike Davis and Captain Fennell join me. Blumenthal right there,

00:09:47.840 quiet part out loud. What did I tell you? There've been crimes committed. We want a criminal

00:09:52.560 investigation. They violate the Espionage Act. This radical judge, as I just said on Eric

00:09:57.780 Bowling's show, has already inserted himself in this case and asked for all documents, complete

00:10:02.520 document dump, preserve your documents, everything from March 11th to March 15th. The Senate Armed

00:10:08.340 Services Committee, which is the Committee of Jurisdiction controlled by Republicans, Roger

00:10:12.620 Wicker, has agreed to a bipartisan, underline that, ladies and gentlemen, bipartisan investigation

00:10:20.060 of this. More on that later. I want to go at 630 tonight. President Trump is going to be doing a

00:10:25.200 town hall, a telephonic town hall in the 6th Congressional District of Florida for Randy

00:10:31.200 Fine, the candidate, the Republican nominee. Randy joins us right now. Randy, you became a

00:10:37.500 immense interest in the nation's capital today. Lee Stefanik dropped out. I want to say, Lee

00:10:44.120 Stefanik did not drop out with Fabrizio's story about being nervous about this. Two other reasons.

00:10:49.020 Number one, President Trump needs to have somebody in leadership that will deal with him straight

00:10:52.820 and tell him, particularly on critical path, what's going on. Also, Stefanik's by far the best

00:10:58.620 offender he's ever had on Capitol Hill. Now that Gates is out in San Diego, you got it. You almost

00:11:04.720 got to bring her in. You got to go to the bullpen. The UN, we'll talk about the UN later. Randy Fine,

00:11:11.500 this is a dogfight. Up till Saturday, you can vote early and then it's game day. Where do we stand,

00:11:16.480 sir? Well, we've had a good day. Republicans are coming out. We've outperformed the Democrats,

00:11:21.840 but we still have a long way to go. They've reached 22 percent. Almost one in four Democrats

00:11:26.880 have voted, but only 13 percent of Republicans have. Our people are coming later. And so we need

00:11:32.580 people to get out and vote. It's almost done for the day in most of our counties, but tomorrow and

00:11:38.020 Saturday, people can still vote early. And I'm super excited that at 630, President Trump is doing

00:11:42.800 a teletown rally with me. And so he's going to make the call, I think, for people to come out

00:11:48.100 and vote for me as well. So if they live in my district, if they live in those six counties,

00:11:52.180 I'm actually campaigning. You can see I'm in a car. I'm waiting to go into my next event,

00:11:56.120 but people can go to voterandyfine.com. They can find out the hours and the locations of their early

00:12:01.480 voting locations in those six counties. We just need them to get out and vote. If our side votes,

00:12:06.320 we will win overwhelmingly. The question is, are they going to do that?

00:12:13.340 Yes, we're going to make sure they do that. But my understanding on the numbers is that

00:12:17.280 it's been reported that the early vote breaks down 51 Democrat, 43 Republican. Have we closed that gap

00:12:23.980 at all, sir? Well, no, the early vote, I mean, Republicans are up by seven points. So I don't

00:12:30.480 remember what the exact numbers are, but no, more Republicans have voted than Democrats. That's not the

00:12:36.020 case. It's not upside down. The first day on Saturday, when you took all the absentee ballots,

00:12:41.940 which Democrats typically do well on, and then early voting that day, they were up.

00:12:46.160 But every day we've made substantial progress. We're up five or 6,000 votes Republican versus

00:12:52.240 Democrat. So we're moving in the right direction, but we're not moving far enough. We need to get

00:12:57.320 that number up, up, up if we want to have, because I not only want to win, I want to win strongly,

00:13:02.600 compellingly, so people can understand just how popular President Trump remains.

00:13:07.020 That's why I needed them to get to voterandyfine.com, figure out where to vote tomorrow or

00:13:11.560 Saturday early. There's no reason not to run up the score.

00:13:16.040 One more time, because people were jacked up after your appearance this morning. Where do they go?

00:13:20.600 How do they help, sir?

00:13:22.380 So they can go to voterandyfine.com. They can do one of three things. If they live in the district,

00:13:26.620 they can find out where to vote. If they don't live in the district and they want to volunteer,

00:13:32.380 there's a button where they can volunteer. And if they want to donate, every dollar we're raising

00:13:36.860 is going immediately out the door for more voter contact activity. So whether it's $5, $10, $20,

00:13:43.480 every dollar we raise will be out the door tomorrow being spent to make sure President Trump's agenda

00:13:48.640 is safe.

00:13:49.300 Randy Fiennes, thank you very much, brother. We look forward to seeing you, Mark. Good luck

00:13:55.580 tonight with President Trump on the Teletown Hall. It's going to be fantastic. Excited.

00:13:59.580 Appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you.

00:14:02.400 Thank you.

00:14:03.560 Folks, let's get up on the ramparts. Let's have Randy Fiennes back. He's right. We've got to run up a big

00:14:09.380 number here. Stefanik, her nomination for the United Nations poll because

00:14:18.180 we're going to go to general quarters in the nation's capital.

00:14:23.000 The Senate Armed Services Committee that you have worked your ass off to make sure it's in

00:14:28.480 Republican hands agreed to have a bipartisan investigation. And this judge immediately

00:14:32.960 stepped in on this phony lawsuit, civil suit, said, save all documents. You saw Blumenthal right there.

00:14:39.760 There's been crimes committed. This has to be a crime. You see where this is going, right?

00:14:44.180 You see how they play? It's time now. Republicans got to learn how to play smash mouth up on Capitol

00:14:51.040 Hill. Enough of being the wimps. Short break. John Kahn takes us out. Back in a moment, Mike Davis,

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00:16:11.660 ...news from that federal hearing on the lawsuit involving the national security team group chat.

00:16:18.800 CNN's chief legal affairs correspondent Paula Reid is back with us. Paula, what have we learned from

00:16:24.420 the judge in this case? So, Casey, we had a decision here. Judge James Bozberg ordering the

00:16:29.000 Trump administration to preserve all signal messages between March 11th and March 15th. Now,

00:16:34.820 those dates are significant because those are the dates when Trump administration officials were on

00:16:39.120 a signal chat with a reporter from The Atlantic discussing military strikes in Yemen. Now, this

00:16:46.240 came after a lawsuit alleging that the administration was violating federal records laws because they're

00:16:51.860 using this encrypted app that has auto-delete features that were enabled by at least one person,

00:16:56.900 one official. In that chat, it's not clear that they were properly preserving these records.

00:17:02.040 During this hearing, the Justice Department said it is trying to track down these records and properly

00:17:06.760 preserve them. And the judge described this decision as a, quote, compromise. Now, Casey,

00:17:13.000 Judge James Bozberg, he is an Obama-appointed judge who has come under attack repeatedly in the past few

00:17:18.280 weeks from President Trump. And just last week, he oversaw a separate case related to Trump's sweeping

00:17:24.420 use of a wartime authority to deport people he says were part of a Venezuelan gang. Now, what's

00:17:30.180 interesting is during that case, one of the arguments the administration made was that they

00:17:33.960 did not have to comply with an initial order Bozberg made because he made it from the bench. So,

00:17:38.000 he did an oral order. They have argued that that didn't carry the same weight as a written order.

00:17:41.520 So, he quit during this hearing. Can I stop you for one second and just ask you because I'm sure

00:17:46.420 this is going to come up right in the Venezuelan case. The question was, are they going to defy

00:17:50.100 the order? My question in this case is, what if they can't comply with it because the messages

00:17:55.020 have been deleted? Well, there's a process for that. What I was going to say is he quipped that

00:17:58.880 he was going to put this in writing. I think it's funny that he's sort of carrying that strand

00:18:02.160 along to this case. Feels like he has to do that. I mean, exactly. I don't know if I'd make a joke

00:18:07.820 in this context. You could just sort of do it. But in terms of whether they're going to comply,

00:18:12.380 right now they have to show that they're at least trying because this group would have to

00:18:16.220 show irreparable harm. And the Justice Department is like, you can't prove that. We're trying to track

00:18:20.220 this down. We've tracked down some of them. Now, if they ultimately cannot reveal these text

00:18:26.060 messages, if they cannot retrieve these, that could potentially escalate this controversy because

00:18:30.940 they could be in violation of these records laws. Now, usually that is something that would be

00:18:35.340 referred to the attorney general. But at this point, there's no indication that the Trump Justice

00:18:39.100 Department wants to get involved in this at all or escalate it to a criminal matter. So it's going

00:18:43.620 to be really interesting to see what they put in a status report in the next 24, 48 hours.

00:18:48.760 Sixteen Democratic senators who signed a letter today asking for, frankly, a more sprawling

00:18:53.520 investigative action beyond what we just talked about. Do you think ultimately the reality will lie

00:18:59.960 somewhere in the middle? Are you more likely to have to, for lack of a better phrase,

00:19:04.840 take what you can get from your Republican colleagues? Where is this realistically going?

00:19:10.340 I'm hoping for an even more aggressive, comprehensive investigative effort that will

00:19:16.460 be bipartisan. This step asking for the inspector general of the defense department to do an inquiry

00:19:23.560 is a good one. Very positive, bipartisan step. But these investigations by inspectors general often

00:19:31.300 take months, sometimes years. And this one has to be prompt, penetrating and unsparing. And in the

00:19:38.900 meantime, let's be very blunt here. There was a likely crime committed under the Espionage Act,

00:19:46.460 under the Federal Records Act. There should be a criminal investigation. I think there's grounds for

00:19:52.320 a prosecution. But ultimately, the evidence has to be assessed after the FBI, which has a criminal

00:20:00.420 national security unit to do an objective and independent investigation that could produce

00:20:07.700 a prosecution. I also think that both Hegseth and Walsh need to resign or be fired.

00:20:14.440 You see the targeting right there? Crimes, crimes, crimes, crimes, both of the judge

00:20:21.180 and now Blumenthal and the investigation. And they're going to try to pull cash into this too.

00:20:25.440 Mike Davis, the problem I have here, sir, is that the feckless Republicans on Capitol Hill

00:20:31.980 are either rolling into this or in the House Judiciary Committee. And Johnson will not call up these

00:20:37.660 judges to put them on notice that we're not going to tolerate that. Mike Davis,

00:20:42.040 your thoughts, first off, where we stand with all this, how this judge got involved,

00:20:45.780 and what's the solution, sir? This is a silly non-scandal. We have top national security officials

00:20:53.320 using Signal, which is end-to-end encryption, to communicate. This is exactly what the Biden

00:21:00.720 administration directed these highly targeted officials to do, right? And so we can't expect

00:21:09.520 that these officials can all be brought into a skiff at one time to have these ongoing discussions.

00:21:17.100 You have the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, and other

00:21:21.940 key officials. They have to be able to do their job. They have to be able to communicate in real

00:21:26.600 time. And Signal is the best thing they have, according to the Biden administration. So it's not

00:21:32.120 illegal for them to communicate on Signal. It's actually encouraged, according to the Biden

00:21:38.040 administration's pronouncement from CISA, which is the Homeland Security cyber part of the Homeland

00:21:46.800 Security Department, right? So that's one thing. The issue here is that this report somehow got onto

00:21:53.480 this signal chain. And the Trump White House needs to figure out how this...

00:22:03.480 We just lost Mike. Mike, let's get him back up. I know he's traveling. Let's go ahead and reboot him.

00:22:10.800 The courts are going to be the anvil. The deep state's going to be the hammer. Here's the state of

00:22:21.020 play. They had one of these groups file a civil suit immediately, a civil suit. Now, this has got

00:22:28.640 Bozberg, who's already inserted himself in the national security and forced the president to invoke the

00:22:36.560 national secrets, the secrets act, the state secrets act, to try to back him off, to try to back him

00:22:45.500 off from getting involved in his role as commander in chief. Now he's involved in Signal. And that's

00:22:53.540 supposed to be random. And he's inserted himself by requesting all documents. As they said on the tee

00:22:59.780 up, oh, well, that could be, you know, criminal. He'd be looking for criminal activity on just what a

00:23:04.380 civil matter. In addition, Wicker of Mississippi, as the committee of jurisdiction over the Pentagon,

00:23:14.760 as head of the Senate Armed Service Committee, that you worked your ass off to make sure you could get,

00:23:20.260 agreed with Blumenthal and these jackals to open up a bipartisan investigation of this. And Blumenthal, 0.65

00:23:30.420 at the beginning, the ink ain't even dry on it, saying, oh, it's criminal. We have to be aggressive.

00:23:34.400 We have to have a criminal prosecution. Crimes have been committed. Mike Davis joins us again. Mike,

00:23:39.380 your thoughts? I mean, like I was saying before, Steve, this is not, this is a non-scandal. This

00:23:44.820 is silly. These top national security officials are encouraged by the Biden administration's 0.92

00:23:50.840 Department of Homeland Security to use Signal for end-to-end encryption because they have to be

00:23:55.840 able to communicate, right? And that's what they're doing here. The only, the mistake that appears to

00:24:00.740 have happened is there was a reporter on the signal chain, likely inadvertently from their

00:24:07.240 perspective, obviously. And so they need to figure out how this guy got on this signal chain and

00:24:12.540 correct it so it doesn't happen again. But there's, there's no crime here. This was encouraged

00:24:17.920 by the Biden Department of Homeland Security.

00:24:20.400 What about this judge that's now forced his way in on this civil matter? And what they're trying

00:24:29.120 to do, I understand they're silly. The arguments here don't make sense. But as you know, in lawfare, 0.95

00:24:34.020 it doesn't need to make sense. In fact, if it makes, if it's counterintuitive or counter the law,

00:24:38.960 that's all the better. They use law as a weapon. This is not a search for truth. That's what I keep

00:24:43.460 telling people. This is not a search for truth. It's not. They use lawfare. They use the courts.

00:24:49.180 They use these radical judges. They use the, the, the process in Congress as a weapon and they're

00:24:56.960 damn good at doing it. And we just seem to be too feckless. I'd like to know, I thought we were going

00:25:00.860 to bring judges up this week at the judiciary committee to start asking them some questions

00:25:05.220 about their role so far in shutting down every initial president Trump has, including his efforts

00:25:11.520 as commander in chief, sir. Yeah, that's exactly right. And I, it's just amazing to me that this

00:25:18.060 D.C. Obama judge, Jeff Bozberg, he seems to be the Forrest Gump of this lawfare against President

00:25:25.620 Trump right now. He just seems to be popping up on all these, these Trump cases. I thought

00:25:30.460 the D.C. district court was supposed to randomly assign these cases to these judges. I, I, this doesn't

00:25:37.780 seem very random to me that these two cases that, you know, deal with the president, with

00:25:44.780 national security matters with the president, it's Bozberg who's getting these cases. It's

00:25:48.840 just, it's not adding up. And, uh, in response to Senator Blumenthal, there's no crime here.

00:25:54.640 It is not a crime for the national security officials to communicate via signal. They were

00:26:01.500 encouraged to do that again by the Department of Homeland Security under Joe Biden.

00:26:05.080 Okay. Okay. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Once again, you're, you're, you're, you have the,

00:26:10.760 you're arguing law. You're arguing truth. You're, you're in a search for justice, bro. This is not

00:26:17.840 about justice. You see what I have to do, folks? This is not about justice. This judge is corrupt.

00:26:24.700 They're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. We just beat them in November, right? We just 0.99

00:26:30.300 beat them. They're not going to stop this thing in this, the courts, the same people sent all these 0.94

00:26:35.640 old ladies and people walking through, as you say, to take a Polaroid in the Capitol, sending them

00:26:42.020 years in prison are the same guys now at president Trump's grill. And you've got, and you've lose

00:26:46.940 Blumenthal and this pack of jackals in the Senate now. And he sent into a criminal investigation 0.93

00:26:53.720 by the, by the IG over at the Pentagon. Your thoughts, I mean, what, how do we stop the law

00:26:58.340 fair? Assume that we're right and they're wrong and it doesn't matter to them, sir.

00:27:02.760 Well, what I would, what I would say is I think the president needs to say, well, the IG is not

00:27:07.380 investigating this. The justice department is not investigating this. My white house team will

00:27:13.580 investigate this and we will rectify this because even if they investigate, what are they going to

00:27:18.020 investigate? They investigated that these national security officials, uh, were using signal, which

00:27:23.260 they're allowed to do. And there was someone on the, the, the signal chain, big deal. All right. So

00:27:28.140 you, so you, you, you, you make sure that doesn't happen again, but there, this idea that look, I

00:27:34.860 would say this, uh, you're not going to be able to open a criminal investigation without the justice

00:27:39.320 department. The justice department absolutely should not open this investigation. And frankly, I'm,

00:27:44.840 I'm stunned that Senator Wicker is, is participating in this in the Senate. There's, there's nothing

00:27:51.800 for the justice department or the IG to investigate. Mike, Mike, Mike, hang on one second. I want to

00:27:57.960 make sure people get a, where they have to go to fight this over article three short break. Captain

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00:29:41.640 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:29:47.980 Okay. The policy here is no scalps. Number one, nobody deserves it. Number two, we can't,

00:29:54.100 you give them a scalp and they're going to come in. They get blood in that water. It's all over.

00:29:58.600 No scalps. This goes right back to the confirmations, right back to the railhead of that was Pete

00:30:03.120 Hexeth. We're not going to bend one inch. Impossible. Mike Davis, people are ready to 1.00

00:30:09.060 fight, particularly the war on posse. They are there. They are so angry that the judicial system,

00:30:14.700 particularly this corrupt court in Washington, D.C. and Johnson and these guys, I don't want to hear

00:30:18.600 about this ISO bill, which is nice. You know, three judge panel. That's not the point right now.

00:30:23.320 The point right now, sir, calling judges in and put them in the stand right there and start drilling

00:30:27.700 with questions. And you're going to have these federal judges give you a different, they're going to,

00:30:31.820 they're going to give you different opinions, just human nature. They are today. Uh, the doge guys 0.97

00:30:37.300 over the secrets over at a social security got lit up by this judge lit up. And if you continue,

00:30:43.880 it's going to, it's going to continue until you stop it. It's going to continue until you stop it.

00:30:50.220 This is not a search for truth. These Democrats, they know how to use these courts. It's a show

00:30:55.320 trials like the 1930s in, in, in Moscow, Mike Davis, the rate of fight, where they go, sir.

00:31:00.880 They should go to article three project.org article number three project.org. There is an action item

00:31:08.220 right now where we need to contact both of your home state senators and your U S house rep

00:31:13.700 to impeach and remove D C Obama judge Jeb Bosberg. I don't care if we don't have the votes in the Senate

00:31:21.400 to do this. I want to make the process the punishment. I want this to serve as a deterrence.

00:31:26.660 If Boeberg, Boeberg is in an impeachment trial, he's not, uh, making his illegal order,

00:31:32.200 sabotaging president drop in the Fresno too.

00:31:37.440 A hundred percent. One more time. Where do they go, sir? Where to article three?

00:31:41.440 Article three project.org article number three project.org. You can donate followers on social

00:31:46.320 media, take action, action, action, and teach Jeb Bosberg.

00:31:50.200 Thank you, brother. Mike, what's your social media? You're putting up stuff all night. Where

00:31:55.700 do they go on Twitter and get her? Uh, M R D D M I A M R D D M I A. My initials, Des Moines

00:32:02.420 Island. Thank you, Steve.

00:32:03.460 Okay. Mike Davis. Thank you. Join us by phone. Mike Davis, the Viceroy. I've asked two individuals.

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00:32:23.840 by the way, they got the great newsletter. Um, make sure you go to records at war room.com

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00:32:37.340 Absolutely fantastic. Go to records, war room.com get strategic intelligence. And he throws in a

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00:32:57.500 it out now. Uh, I wanted to have captain for now. So camp for now, and thank you, you're up in the

00:33:02.660 middle of the night where you're joining us, but it was important enough that we talked during the day.

00:33:06.360 I want you, because here is the main thing. Pete Hegseth is doing the exact job that this audience

00:33:13.040 fought so hard to make sure he was confirmed. Uh, captain for now, it's, give me your assessment

00:33:17.840 as Pete Hegseth so far, uh, as secretary of defense and particularly making his initial trip

00:33:23.600 out to Guam as, uh, as, as you say, quite symbolic for the main thing, sir.

00:33:30.660 Yeah. I mean, the secretary is, uh, I mean, he went to Europe and he told the Europeans they needed

00:33:35.440 to do their share in the first couple of weeks that he was there. And now he's in the Indo-Pacific,

00:33:40.420 which is the main area of, uh, national security threat. And he's been to Hawaii to meet with the

00:33:47.000 commander of Indo-PACOM, Admiral Papro. And they've talked about the real O plans, the operational plans.

00:33:53.600 Uh, they go into, uh, defending our interests in the Pacific. He's been to Guam and he's now just

00:33:59.560 arrived in the Philippines. And there's, uh, reporting that there's going to be an announcement

00:34:04.320 that the U S will install another second battery of the Typhoon missile system, which is a combination

00:34:11.340 of the T-LAM and the SM-6 missiles, uh, together in a, in a launcher that basically gives us a surface

00:34:18.980 to surface missile attack capability out to 1500 miles and a surface to air capability of, you know,

00:34:25.120 600 miles or so. And this is a system that's very critical for our allies defense in the Philippines.

00:34:31.640 And so what we're seeing is him leading that and coming out on the front end of that to extend

00:34:37.760 president Trump's actions that he did in the first administration, when they first put a,

00:34:43.220 uh, the theater high area of defense, uh, missile system in, in Korea defends against the PRC's 0.83

00:34:50.180 missiles that could attack South Korea and Japan. So president Trump is consistent over the two terms

00:34:56.640 that he wants to increase America's defensive posture, uh, in the Indo-Pacific and the Far East.

00:35:03.020 And Pete Exeth is out there and he's leading the charge. You know, by the way, as he was doing

00:35:08.760 that, they're leading strikes into the, into the Houthis. There's now reporting in the last, uh,

00:35:14.100 24 hours that there's, uh, uh, uh, over a dozen, uh, uh, tankers and transport planes that have arrived

00:35:21.340 into Diego Garcia, along with at least five to seven B2, uh, uh, stealth bombers. Uh, so there's a lot

00:35:28.860 going on and, and the secretary of defense is young, energetic. He's, uh, leading the troops

00:35:34.840 from the front and he's energizing recruiting and he's energizing America's focus on, as you and I

00:35:42.260 talk frequently about the main thing. So he's in the main thing right now. He's in the theater and

00:35:47.800 he's reinforcing our alliances with, uh, Japan and Taiwan. He's going to, uh, he's in the Philippines

00:35:54.500 now, but he'll go on to Japan, uh, to celebrate and remember the 80th anniversary of the battle

00:35:59.680 of Iwo Jima with our Japanese allies who we fought 80 years ago. So these are very significant events

00:36:06.080 and he's representing us. And as you've been talking about, all this hubbub about the signal

00:36:12.340 thing is just, uh, really, uh, very political and it's very detrimental to America's national security,

00:36:18.640 especially when no one died in the attacks, uh, from our carriers, uh, into the Yemen against the

00:36:26.340 Houthis here 10 days ago. Unlike what happened in August of 2021, when 13 Americans were killed

00:36:32.080 with the, uh, feckless leadership from the previous administration.

00:36:37.860 And people should know when Captain Fennell talks, he's one of the most revered naval intelligence

00:36:42.100 officer that's ever, uh, ever, uh, put on the uniform. Uh, I want to leave with, uh, you,

00:36:47.620 you mentioned something we had Nigel on here for weeks, uh, a couple of months ago about Diego

00:36:52.460 Garcia and the importance of Diego Garcia. There's something happening there. There, there,

00:36:56.520 Diego Garcia has had a lot of activity. This is open sourced. It's had a lot of activity

00:37:01.080 recently. I mean, you and I might disagree on, on, should we be hanging around the Southern

00:37:05.360 Arabian Peninsula? But one of the mandates of the United States Navy is to keep the, the,

00:37:11.000 the oceans free, free navigation of the seas. Uh, that's certainly one mission that the

00:37:16.600 two strike carry battle groups are doing. But Diego Garcia is quite interesting, sir.

00:37:21.540 Tell me your, your thoughts that, uh, is the party going to be on? Is that what you're seeing

00:37:26.300 at, uh, Diego Garcia, sir? It sure looks like something's happening. And what I find ironic

00:37:31.800 is, is all the hand-wringing and, and, uh, the sky is falling from all of these politicians

00:37:36.480 in Washington about signal chats that were after the fact, or at least after the execution.

00:37:41.800 Uh, they're not saying anything right now about the regular commercial imagery, commercial,

00:37:48.120 uh, tracking of aircraft that's available on the internet that people have already found.

00:37:53.080 And we know, as I just said, there's over a dozen U S air force transport aircraft and, uh,

00:37:58.480 refuelers that are in Diego along with five to seven B two bombers that's out there in the public

00:38:04.460 domain. And yet I don't hear any of these same people that are screaming about secretary of defense

00:38:09.220 should resign are not saying anything about these issues. We live in the 21st century.

00:38:14.860 It's not like when I was commissioned in 1986 and we didn't have this technology and you had to go

00:38:20.600 to your skiff in the command center, or you had to go on board your ship to get access to the

00:38:26.080 classified information. We're living in a world where we have commercial satellites that are providing

00:38:31.020 data to everyone. And so as Colonel John Boyd said in 1960s, the OODA loop observe, orient, decide,

00:38:40.020 and act that cycle of OODA loop, whoever can do that faster wins. And so what we have is people that

00:38:47.940 are doing it faster and we're winning. Now, did we make a mistake in having it on signal? And should

00:38:53.480 we reassess that? Yes. And the president of the United States said it was a lesson learned.

00:38:57.500 It was a mistake. And they're going to make changes. But to say we're going to crucify somebody

00:39:02.120 over this is ridiculous. Right now, we have larger things to do. And that's to face the reality 0.98

00:39:07.820 that the Chinese Communist Party is sharpening their swords to essentially attack Taiwan and attack

00:39:14.840 American interests in Asia. Because to take Taiwan, they're going to attack our forces in the theater 0.95

00:39:21.180 to make sure that we can't come in and defend Taiwan. That is the most lethal threat to us. We didn't 1.00

00:39:26.980 defend or we didn't deter Putin from attacking in Ukraine. Are we going to deter the PRC from

00:39:33.400 attacking Taiwan? That's the existential question that should be asked of these congressmen and

00:39:38.680 these senators when they're on their TV stations and pontificating. They're not helping America's

00:39:44.340 national security. All they're doing is playing political games and everyone can see it.

00:39:49.100 Captain Fennell mentions the legendary Colonel Boyd, who I happen to know, that had the 9,000-page

00:39:57.720 brief on maneuver warfare. A legendary guy like you are, Captain Fennell. Captain Fennell,

00:40:02.100 I guess you don't have social media, right? Do you have a website?

00:40:06.600 No, sir, I do not.

00:40:09.520 That's okay. We'll just keep you here. Captain Fennell, thank you so much

00:40:14.880 for adding your level-headed discernment into this entire fiasco. Of course, there shouldn't

00:40:20.600 be any investigations. And to agree to the investigations and not go on full offense.

00:40:26.040 An individual spent a lot of time in Taiwan, knows what the situation is, but is one of

00:40:30.140 the most astute political observers in the nation's capital. Matt Boyle joins us from Breitbart,

00:40:37.080 the national political editor. Matt, you put out a tweet today about this Elise Stefanik that

00:40:42.020 I thought encapsulated. Denver can put it up, but I want you to walk through it. There's much more

00:40:45.560 here than Tony Fabrizio panicking about Florida Six. And there's a lot going on, and particularly

00:40:52.580 for this place and time, because President Trump needs a team that he can count on to take action

00:40:59.060 when action has to be taken. Matt Boyle.

00:41:02.400 Yeah, look, I think that this is a sign that the president understands that the radical left and

00:41:07.780 the globalist elite are beginning their attempt to strike back after November the 5th. Obviously,

00:41:14.620 November the 5th was a huge election victory for President Trump and for conservatives and

00:41:19.400 America First Republicans. But they did not win the war, right? Like, they won a chance to win the war.

00:41:26.500 And I think the president recognizes this. And what we're seeing this week from the Atlantic

00:41:30.920 over this whole signal gate nonsense is that this is the first of many likely strikes from those who

00:41:41.900 have been disposed from power by the American public in their attempt, their desperate attempt

00:41:47.240 to reclaim power. So I think that what's going on here is that the president recognizes that to succeed,

00:41:54.320 he needs to have a very strong House majority, as strong as possible. And he needs people in positions

00:42:01.720 of power throughout the House that are straight with him, right? Like, so, look, you know,

00:42:09.840 not to knock Speaker Johnson too much, I think that question's been settled, and at least for now,

00:42:15.860 in the broader equation here. And, you know, after President Trump endorsement at the beginning

00:42:21.380 of the year, obviously won on the first ballot, and it is what it is. But the point is that Trump

00:42:26.540 needs somebody on the inside of the House Republican leadership team that he could trust

00:42:31.460 and talk to every day that's gonna shoot him straight when it comes to how this tax package

00:42:36.340 is coming together. So ultimately, I mean, the entire agenda rides on this, right? Like, the president

00:42:45.240 needs this bill to pass, right? Like, needs the tax details to make it through, right? He has to extend

00:42:52.720 his previous tax cuts, and he has to lock in no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, and no tax on

00:42:59.700 overtime. If he delivers on that stuff, right? Like, along with the immigration stuff, along with the 0.69

00:43:05.780 energy dominance, Donald Trump can lock in the greatest political realignment in modern history.

00:43:13.460 But he needs strong leaders in the House, and this is a strategic move, I think, by the president

00:43:17.820 to do that. Hang on. There's one more element, too, to your three-pronged strategy about her defense

00:43:25.100 in the first impeachment. Stick through the break. Matt Bull, a national political editor

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00:45:45.680 Steve25 talked to Natalie Dominguez and the team to find out what's going on because we need you

00:45:51.960 at the Ramparts, not worrying about how to pay off a hard money loan. Matt Boyle, Elise Stefanik

00:45:58.060 in 2019 rose to national prominence. She was a backbencher. She stepped up one day to the

00:46:04.280 microphone and took charge of defending President Trump against a phony impeachment effort based

00:46:10.160 around, wait for it, Ukraine, okay, and Zelensky. Is that one of the elements? It's in your tweet.

00:46:18.040 I think it shows, once again, your wisdom. How important is it to have Elise Stefanik

00:46:23.700 actually in the House to defend President Trump? Because he sees right now,

00:46:29.540 they're coming for him at every angle, sir.

00:46:32.040 Yeah, this is where everybody needs to realize we're at war, right? We are at war right now with

00:46:37.360 radical left and the globalist elite, the establishment media, et cetera. The party's

00:46:42.240 over, right? And now the serious work begins. And I think that the impeachment fight in 2019 made

00:46:48.320 several heroes, right? Some of them you see in key places all around the movement and in the

00:46:54.820 government, right? So, for instance, Lee Zeldin was another one, but he's at the EPA now. He's no

00:46:59.900 longer in the House. Devin Nunez, another one. He's now running True Social and Trump's media

00:47:05.240 enterprises on the outside. So, he's no longer in the House. So, it's like Elise is like the last,

00:47:11.080 you know, the last amigo, if you will, right? Like from that impeachment crew back in 2019 that,

00:47:19.780 you know, she was sharpened by that, right? Like, I think it radicalized her and it turned her into a,

00:47:25.760 you know, an aggressive fighter. And so, as we're getting it from all sides here,

00:47:30.500 and this is just the beginning, okay? This is just the very beginning, this Atlantic story.

00:47:36.180 The deep state, the establishment media, they are coming for President Trump and they are coming for

00:47:40.980 this movement and this agenda because this movement and this agenda represents a threat to their,

00:47:45.760 to their livelihood, right? Like, both things cannot survive, right? Like,

00:47:51.480 so, either the movement survives and thrives and prospers or they do, right? Like,

00:47:56.120 but they will go extinct. I mean, they are facing extinction right now from President Trump and his

00:48:02.240 team. You see it right now with all the teams, all the cuts they're making across the government and

00:48:06.480 everything and so on and so forth. All the changes they're making, the deportations they're doing.

00:48:11.740 I mean, again, we're, they're being sent the way of the dinosaurs. But the point is, is that,

00:48:16.780 you know, these people are, they're not going down without a fight and they're going to fight every

00:48:21.320 step of the way. Well, let's, let's, let's talk, let's talk about that. By the way, Devin Nunez is

00:48:27.800 also the chairman of the president's intelligence board, PIAB. So he's in the bullpen. Lee Zeldin found

00:48:33.460 the $20 billion Citicorp money laundering operation on the first day was at EPA. Stefanik's going back to

00:48:39.220 the house. He's going to be the tip of the spear. Matt Boyle, the way to stop this is to stop it. Why are we not

00:48:45.960 having judges go up before the house judiciary, Jim Jordan, that team to actually ask some questions?

00:48:52.840 I didn't say start an impeachment hearing right now, but have some hearings and collect some

00:48:56.700 information, particularly why Bozberg thinks he can step in and be commander in chief. And today

00:49:01.740 take some nuisance lawsuit from some, one of these left-wing groups. And all of a sudden he's requesting

00:49:07.440 all documents and MSNBC is talking about potential criminal charges coming out of that. Why is that not

00:49:13.420 happening, Matt Boyle? You say we're at war. Did Mike Johnson, the leadership of the, did Mike

00:49:17.820 Johnson, the leadership of the house understand when you say war, you mean war, sir? Yeah, but

00:49:22.820 Bozberg should have already been brought before a house panel and impeachment charges should have

00:49:27.400 already been begun against him. Right. Like, I mean, he's totally out of line, uh, whether, you know,

00:49:32.280 not just on this case, but the previous one with the trend air, Iowa, uh, you know, him trying to order

00:49:37.400 planes that were already in the air to be returned. Like that, that that's, he doesn't have the

00:49:41.420 authority to do that. He's not the, he's not elected by anyone. Right. Like, and so, uh, the

00:49:46.240 president of the United States is the elected commander in chief. We have a radical out of

00:49:50.180 control, federal judiciary, right? There needs to be serious changes and reforms done to this. It 0.97

00:49:55.060 needs to come from the executive branch, from the legislative branch. Um, and, and, and, and frankly,

00:50:00.240 from the judicial branch, right? Like, so I would hope that there are courageous people. And I know

00:50:04.400 there's a lot of good judges out there, right? Like, especially in the appellate system, right?

00:50:08.280 Like in the appellate courts that need to start raining this craziness and insanity. Yeah. Boyle,

00:50:14.380 Boyle, how does Roger Wicker, the, the, the, the committee of jurisdiction over the Pentagon,

00:50:19.480 the intelligence guys didn't ask for this, the committee of jurisdiction on the Pentagon and Pete

00:50:25.600 Hegseth and working in a bipartisan way with Jack Reed, another radical, and they got Blumenthal and

00:50:32.780 Blumenthal already said crimes have been committed. We need a criminal investigation. How does Wicker

00:50:36.940 as a Republican in this audience work their tail off for Wicker? How does Wicker kowtow and fall into

00:50:42.620 the trap of bipartisanship when it comes to this nonsense, sir? It, it, it defies logic, but I mean,

00:50:50.320 he's a globalist establishment Republican. He always was uneasy with Pete Hegseth getting confirmed as

00:50:55.640 secretary of defense to begin with, uh, because again, these guys are all, you know, in the pockets of

00:51:00.680 the defense contractors, right? Like, and so at the end of the day, uh, you know, there's a lot of the, we can

00:51:06.720 talk about the Democrats all day, but the Republicans have major problems still inside the Republican Party. And

00:51:12.640 there's a lot of rhinos and, you know, whatever you want to call them, establishment Republicans, rhinos, et cetera,

00:51:17.680 that need to be removed. There's good members coming in, don't get me wrong, right? Like, even the numbers are better

00:51:22.900 than they've ever been before, but we haven't won this yet. And everybody needs to recognize, we are at war. We are at war.

00:51:29.180 Matt Boyle, where do people go to Breitbart, your social media, all of it, the leading political

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Bannon's War Room - March 27, 2025

Episode 4370： Judge Boasberg Weighs In On Signalgate

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