A federal judge in the District of Columbia has been assigned to a case against the Trump administration. President Trump calls it "disgraceful" and calls for the judge to be removed from the case. Stephen K. Vance and Laura Voegtlin react to the move.
00:02:40.680War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:02:50.600It's Friday, 28 March, Year of our Lord, 2025. A lot to go through today when we get through
00:02:56.720it all. Economics, geopolitics, politics, domestic politics, the things that are happening in
00:03:05.560this country. There's a couple of conferences. We're going to go through the intelligence
00:03:10.020assessment. It was kind of weak, actually, from the other day. Nobody really got to that
00:03:14.000since they were attacking, attacking, attacking President Trump's administration, his intelligence
00:03:18.860officials, and his defense executives, with the target being Pete Hegseth. We know who the
00:03:26.120target is. It's Pete Hegseth, obviously. And the best defense, as you know here in the War
00:03:33.020Room, is a strong offense. It's time now to start going on offense. One of the, they are
00:03:39.580using the radical federal judiciary as the second prong or in this pincer move to try to disrupt
00:03:50.580then destroy President Trump's second term. Or, if you want the analogy, like the anvil with
00:03:59.040this deep state being the hammer. And they've got these judges that are intruding in every
00:04:06.320case. And particularly, the two things that are, well, let's go back. The theory of the
00:04:11.360case is quite simple. The unitary theory of the executive. We've said this over and over
00:04:16.520again for the last couple of years. This is something that was very well thought through.
00:04:20.800And you had people like Mark Paoletta and Jeff Clark and Stephen Miller and many others.
00:04:24.640Bill McGinley, some of these great lawyers, both inside the administration, over the Justice
00:04:31.860Department, other agencies, and outside. They talked about the president being the chief
00:04:37.260executive officer of the United States government and therefore had ability, had bandwidth, both
00:04:44.180on personnel and on spending to make decisions, to make executive decisions. Number two, he's
00:04:50.420the commander in chief of the military, and particularly the uniformed military services and all civilians
00:04:55.720associated with national security. He is the commander in chief, the office of the president
00:05:00.720and the person who resides there, whether it's General Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or Donald
00:05:09.980J. Trump. Number third, he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the United
00:05:15.100States government. And all these post-Watergate sealing off and hermetically sealing the Justice
00:05:22.560Department and the FBI from the office of the president, just not according to the constitution
00:05:26.940and the way the country set up. And so whether it's Doge or whether it's President Trump doing
00:05:33.420executive orders or whether it's President Trump taking executive action or whether it's President
00:05:39.040Trump in a whole broad scope of things, effectuating and implementing the policies they ran on, they told
00:05:47.420the American people about. And they had a time to weigh and measure it. Four years after the stolen
00:05:54.480election, with virtually no media support, and the, you know, all the institutions of the elites in our
00:06:01.760countries aligned against him, the American people of every race, ethnicity, gender, religion, voted for
00:06:11.480him overwhelmingly. Popular vote, huge blowout in the Electoral College, all the battleground states, huge
00:06:18.380shift in virtually every district in the country, and with demographic groups, whether it's African
00:06:22.820American, Hispanic, Asian, you pick it. And so now it comes down to time to implement it. What are they
00:06:30.280doing? They're relying principally upon a radical judiciary. This judiciary is trying to, it's a
00:06:38.260judicial insurrection leading to a judicial coup, if we allow it. And we have to go on offense.
00:06:45.760We have to go on offense. There's many ways we can go on offense. There's legislative ways of going
00:06:51.100after the budget or taking, really taking a hard look at the budget and really what the operation of
00:06:55.720these courts are, why it costs $10 billion a year and what we should be doing there. Do we even need
00:07:00.780all these districts? Also about legislation about how broad the mandate can be for these injunctions
00:07:07.300and TROs. But principally, I think it's to get these judges in front of people and let the nation see what
00:07:14.140they got to say. They're not impervious to oversight. We're trying to get, Judge Gohmert wrote an
00:07:22.540incredible piece about Judge Louie Gohmert from Texas. We're trying to track him down. He's
00:07:26.320supposed to be up to him. We're having some technical problems with the judge. I think Judge
00:07:29.760Gohmert's a little bit like me. I don't think he's particularly, technically, he's like me. But
00:07:36.540I want to go, there's something happened in the University of Texas. This also ties to something
00:07:39.800I'll talk to in the second hour about these radical universities. I got Paolo Figuero, who's
00:07:48.020going to join me here in a moment. We'll talk about Brazil, but also about awards being given
00:07:52.000in the United States to some of these radical judges in Brazil that are trying to put Bolsonaro
00:07:57.180in prison and therefore having him assassinated. Judge Gohmert's by phone. We have Judge
00:08:02.060Louie Gohmert. So, Judge, people are incensed by these district judges intruding into every space.
00:08:11.140Yesterday, you had the beatdown of all the different things President Trump's trying to do
00:08:15.460to take costs out of the system, to see if there's fraud in the system, to see if the personnel is
00:08:21.380correct. These judges are going after his administration, slowing everything down, saying
00:08:26.940you can't fire people. They all got to be hired back. Then you've got the judge in Washington who's
00:08:33.640intruded into the national security space about the deportation of the criminal terrorist
00:08:40.020gangs, the Venezuelan gangs, back to central prisons in Central America. Now he's actually
00:08:46.380been assigned randomly to this situation on the signal chat, I think from a civil suit, but they're
00:08:53.260already clamoring for criminal charges to come out of that. What can we do? Are these folks impervious
00:08:59.520to any oversight? I know they have lifetime appointments, quote-unquote. What can one do?
00:09:05.140Because people don't understand to delay is to deny, and what they're doing is delaying, delaying,
00:09:10.680delaying the executive action laid out in the Constitution that the office of the President
00:09:15.700can take. Judge Gohmert. Well, thank you, Stephen. It's such a pleasure to be talking to you on the
00:09:22.460war room. But look, that's what people have been saying for years, 18 years in Congress and on the
00:09:30.000Judiciary Committee. We were in the majority most of that time that I was there. And I kept going,
00:09:36.960guys, we need to call these judges in and question them. And, well, I don't know. And we did impeach
00:09:46.660two judges while I was there in the 111th Congress, back 2009 and 2010. One of them had been convicted of
00:09:54.940sexual assault and was actually in prison. And he wouldn't resign because as long as he didn't
00:10:00.400resign, he kept getting a paycheck for being a judge while he was in prison. And so we impeached him,
00:10:07.840voted out of committee, voted on the House floor. And the other, from Louisiana, we voted impeachment.
00:10:16.240The Democrats were in the majority. And actually, Adam Schiff was quite reasonable back in those days
00:10:22.040before he found out and fulfilled what Stalin said with power dizziness. But we impeached the judge
00:10:32.620from Louisiana. But all of that, the thought was, well, you have to prove that there is a high crime or
00:10:42.300misdemeanor, you know, treason, bribery, high crime or misdemeanor. But stay with it. That's
00:10:47.560article. That's from Article 2 that talks about the executive branch. And I've heard you so many
00:10:57.500times. You know the Constitution. Article 1 is the legislative. Article 2 is the executive branch.
00:11:03.660And that's where it talks about, you know, for impeachment, it requires treason, bribery,
00:11:09.880other high crimes and misdemeanors. But in Article 3, where it talks about judges, it doesn't say
00:11:17.400that you have to wait until they commit a crime before you can remove them from the bench. And it does
00:11:24.780not say that they get a lifetime appointment like everybody says. It says, and I quote, the judges both of
00:11:32.760the Supreme and inferior courts shall hold their offices during good behavior. That's it. And when
00:11:40.660they misbehave, they should be off the bench. And so I kept saying for all the years, you know, look,
00:11:46.040guys, let's call them in and question them. And what we got over and over again was from chairs,
00:11:51.740oh, why don't we call in experts to talk about whether their behavior is proper or not, whether
00:11:59.280they're doing the right thing. We don't want to go open that Pandora's box. Look, it's, you know,
00:12:05.360I understand, you know, people talk about, well, do we really want to impeach? Because if we do it,
00:12:11.340Democrats will do it. Well, that genie's out of the box. But when it comes to judges,
00:12:18.080so what if Democrats call Republican judges in to question them? Judges need to be on the hot seat
00:12:26.700when they're acting inappropriately and questioned. And in the Senate anyway, it takes a two-thirds vote
00:12:35.100to remove them from office. But you know, you've been on the hot seat. It is very uncomfortable.
00:12:43.740And to make judges who think they've been impervious to ever answering to anybody to make them come in
00:12:52.660and they're on C-SPAN. And they have to sit there and ask, answer political questions. And some of
00:13:00.700them, very probing questions into their misbehavior. And, you know, like on January 6th, how you can accuse
00:13:08.980somebody of insurrection when that's not what they were charged with. That's not what they were convicted
00:13:15.460of. And yet that's what you accuse them of when you sentence them. Or how could you not recuse yourself
00:13:23.700when you ask a girl for a date and she went and then she refused to ever go out with you? And then
00:13:31.860you were chomping at the bits to get to send her to prison and you won't recuse yourself? Because,
00:13:38.180you know, most people never noticed. But in 1948, Congress did pass a law. And I know there's an
00:13:46.660argument that it might not apply to the Supreme Court because, you know, they were created by the
00:13:53.220Constitution. But it certainly would apply to every inferior court because, as my constitutional law
00:14:00.260professor said, we brought Congress brings every court but the Supreme Court into the world. We can take
00:14:07.380them out. We can change their jurisdiction. We can, you know, change whatever. But it says that
00:14:16.180any judge, justice, magistrate, jowl, disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality
00:14:25.380might be reasonably questioned. And so then you've got this judge that says...
00:14:32.420Judge? Judge, Judge, Judge Gohmert. Judge Gohmert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hang on, hang on, hang on one second. We're taking a short commercial break. I want to hold the punchline to the other side. One of my favorite people, long term congressman, Judge Louie Gohmert, from the great state of Texas, returns on the other side.
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00:16:18.020Okay, the engine room is informing me, before all you longhorns get upset there, it's University of Texas at Dallas.
00:16:25.220Pretty short, not Austin. More about Austin, because I'm going to talk about these public ivies, which I include University of Texas.
00:16:32.960Austin being a public ivy. Huge, huge firestorm this morning about President Trump going after these universities.
00:16:39.380We'll get to that. I want to play this. I've got a Stefanik clip. We're going to talk about Stefanik.
00:16:44.820This is huge. Stefanik's now pulled from being UN ambassador. She's going back there. She's staying in the House.
00:16:51.300But I've got Randy Fein. I'm going to get back to Judge Gohmert and Paolo, because these Marxist and neo-Marxist judges are a massive problem in the United States, Brazil, throughout the world.
00:17:04.880It's got to be dealt with. Judge Gohmert's right.
00:17:07.620But let me play. I've got Randy Fein, who the president had a town hall.
00:17:12.940Let's go ahead and play the package for Randy Fein, and then we're going to bring Randy in to chat. Let's go.
00:17:18.500And based on my reporting, there were a couple dynamics at play here that really fueled this decision.
00:17:25.060The big one being that there is a special election next week.
00:17:29.160As you mentioned, there's two races that are up to fill two of these Republicans that have left Congress early to work for the Trump administration.
00:17:36.100And one of those races is a lot closer and a lot more competitive than Republicans thought it would be.
00:17:42.140This was supposed to be a seat that Trump won by 30 points.
00:17:45.680But the Republican candidate there, Randy Fein, is then massively outraised by his Democratic opponent.
00:17:50.640He was really slow to get on the airwaves.
00:17:52.440Trump has had to swoop in. He's doing a teletown hall for the candidate tonight.
00:17:55.700The GOP leadership has had to get involved.
00:17:58.140And so I think all of that, based on my reporting, has really spooked Donald Trump about the ideas of more special elections.
00:18:05.340Potentially, you know, at least if she left, they would have to defend that seat.
00:18:09.280And it is slightly less red than the one that you're trying to defend on Tuesday.
00:18:13.060That Florida, the Florida race, the gentleman there is a Florida state legislator named Randy Fein,
00:18:19.100who's a Republican who was sort of going to cruise to victory in that seat.
00:18:25.000His Democratic opponent, I think Josh Wales, his name, if I'm not mistaken.
00:18:28.100And he's raised, outraised him nine to one.
00:18:31.740But also, you had Rick DeSantis today.
00:20:38.940Randy will vote to defend Social Security, protect Medicare, cut your taxes, end inflation, fully fund our border and security agenda.
00:20:48.640We have a big, big security agenda, which, as you can imagine, is not easy based on the fact that they let 21 million people into our country.
00:20:57.780I mean, so horribly with their stupid open borders policy, but we're getting them out.
00:21:02.300We're getting out murderers and drug lords and everybody else, people that came out of mental institutions.
00:21:08.200They've allowed them to pour into our country.
00:21:24.960Randy, I think given everything that the president's got going on, it shows what he thinks of you to jump on and do part of your town hall last night.
00:21:52.700At least Stefanik's going to stay in the house.
00:21:55.360We need Stefanik for being a firebrand and helping President Trump because, hey, they're coming from President Trump, as we told you they were.
00:22:04.200This is why it's got to be fight all the time and offense all the time.
00:22:14.560Now, what are we going to do about it?
00:22:16.180What is Judge Louie Gohmert, a Tea Party congressman and one of the leaders of the Tea Party movement, what are you recommending, sir?
00:22:23.080I'm recommending that the Judiciary Committee and the Oversight Committee, if they wanted to, bring in, but particularly the Judiciary Committee, bring judges in and question them about their behavior because it's Article 3 that applies.
00:22:41.640The judges shall keep their offices only during their good behavior.
00:22:48.660And think about the genius of this from the founders.
00:22:51.700They're thinking, okay, Article 2, the executive branch, yeah, you know what, to remove them from office, you really need to have to prove a crime and have the Senate, two-thirds of them have to vote to convict of a crime in the Senate to remove them.
00:23:14.100But you know what, the judges, we expect more of them.
00:24:05.480If that's the standard, are you saying you believe the chief justice in the D.C. Circuit, Boesburg, do you believe he rates at least bringing in for an interview in front of, open public interview in front of, and questioning by the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Jim Jordan, sir?
00:25:01.800Lesson, and before the break, I'd mentioned Beryl Howell, the D.C. district judge.
00:25:09.440She was, there was a motion to recuse her, to take her off the case.
00:25:15.520But she has been so outspoken against Trump.
00:25:19.080She even approved a motion by the Department of Justice previously claiming that Trump was a flight risk, that he would flee from prosecution.
00:25:34.640She has been quite vocal in her complaints about President Trump during his first term and, you know, the four years afterwards.
00:25:45.440And anybody, she said her, his supporters were sore losers.
00:25:52.000She has been very vocal about her feelings.
00:25:57.040And in her denying the motion to recuse, she had the gall to say, and I quote,
00:26:04.880the clear absence of any legitimate basis for disqualification requires denial.
00:26:11.060And she said that, you know, everybody deserves a fair impartial hearing.
00:26:15.520No, the law requires, and she obviously hadn't read the 1948 law.
00:26:21.320The law says that she has to disqualify herself if her impartiality might be reasonably questioned.
00:27:00.320So you're saying Beryl Howe, who was the previous chief of the D.C. Circuit, and now the current, the person who replaced her, Jeb Boesburg,
00:27:09.580both of those should be called in immediately in front of the committee.
00:28:05.480And Congressman Brandon Gill, who's in Congress.
00:28:08.800With Louie Gombert, next in the War Room.
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00:30:10.040The first thing is, if they live in the 6th Congressional District, they need to get up and they need to go to the polls and they need to vote right now.
00:30:17.500Early voting's open today until 5 or 6, depending on what county you're in, and last days tomorrow.
00:30:23.540President Trump did a teletown hall with me last night.
00:30:50.060They can do all three at voterandyfine.com.
00:30:52.440But honestly, the number one thing we need right now is every single Trump supporter.
00:30:57.760Everyone who lives in that district needs to understand that they've got to go and vote.
00:31:02.780But 87% of Republicans still have not voted.
00:31:06.940And they need to get up, and they have to go out the door and realize that just because Trump is president, not everything is great in the world.
00:31:13.460We've got to have a Congress to help them get the job.
00:31:17.120Hey, hey, hey, to get this package through, legislative package, to fight off what's happening, what's coming, we need everybody.
00:31:55.480But what I really need them to do is take a few minutes, find out where their early voting site is at voterandyfine.com, and then get up and go and vote.
00:32:03.300We are picking up momentum every single day, every day.
00:32:08.100And we're outvoting the Democrats every single day.
00:32:11.440We just need to be outvoting them more, putting up big numbers so we go into Election Day strong.
00:32:17.080I'm going to win, but it's not just that I win.
00:32:20.440We want to put up big numbers so all these numbnuts who are saying, oh, the Trump agenda is on the line, get proven wrong.
00:33:03.500Paolo, in fact, Judge Gohmert, I know you're – and one of the reasons Judge Gohmert – I've known the judge since Andrew first went to D.C. and subbed the Breitbart Embassy.
00:33:15.540And one of our first guests there, and someone who was frequently there and supported Breitbart, Andrew personally in Breitbart News, was Judge Gohmert.
00:33:22.420One of the reasons Judge – and I wanted to have Judge Gohmert on today – is that he takes personal offense of these neo-Marxist judges.
00:33:31.340That are not, you know, in the great traditions of the Western rule of law.
00:33:39.700Judge, knowing you're a proud son of Texas and, you know, all the Texans have meaningful and well-deserved pride in their state as the, you know, even with Florida and others, I would say the leading MAGA state, right?
00:33:56.500We have Ohio and Florida and have Arizona, some great ones.
00:34:01.340The situation – and I want to bring in Paolo.
00:34:03.860Paolo, they're – and I said the other day, if we lose the midterms, they're going to impeach Trump, first order of business, because this is what they're running on.
00:34:12.980But if we – somehow they steal it or we don't win in 28, they're going to put Trump back on trial.
00:35:35.760On the following day, they made Bolsonaro a defendant.
00:35:40.520The chief justice of the same court, which is the court that's crushing the populist movement in Brazil, came to the United States and got an award from the University of Texas for, quote-unquote, protecting democracy.
00:36:02.860And it has everything to do with the problems you have been discussing here, both of them, radical universities and corrupt Marxist judges.
00:36:11.420And this guy, let me tell you, this guy went to United States universities.
00:36:17.340He went to Yale, the law school of Yale.
00:36:21.460And also, he's a visiting scholar at Harvard University.
00:38:30.180And this guy, by the way, he's not only a visiting scholar in the university, in Harvard University, but he also has an apartment here in Florida next to me in Kibbe, Skane.
00:38:42.600So while you guys are smarter than me, you can answer why has no one done anything about it?
00:38:55.780You see right there, this is like Hitler with the Nazi judges and Stalin with the show trials in the 30s.
00:39:03.160Authoritarians and dictators understand that the way they can bring implementation and control is through these radical judges, sir.
00:39:10.660Yeah, but when the U.S. brings such people here, that'd be like bringing Hitler's Gestapo judges, Nazi judges to America and thanking them, that it gives them a level of credibility they should not have.
00:39:32.860And, you know, in the case of people that tried to say that Hitler was a guy we could negotiate with, who later apologized, you know, thankfully we won the war.
00:39:51.240But we're in a situation where we may not win this war if enough people do not stand up and call this stuff out.
00:40:05.980And so it is a very, very dangerous situation, and it is much too widespread here in the United States.
00:40:16.620And I've got to say, you know, a dear friend, and I'm proud to be a senior fellow with the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
00:40:25.220I mean, David's been calling it out since he converted from being a communist.
00:40:30.880He even had a book called The Professors, where he named names.
00:40:35.560These are radicals in our universities, and people have got to wake up.
00:40:41.840But I don't know if you ever read William F. Buckley's God and Man of Yale, but back in the 50s, a year after he graduated, he would say,
00:40:51.520look, guys, you know, saying academic freedom does not mean that you have to hire people that do not believe in American freedom, for heaven's sake.
00:41:05.040And yet that's what's been going on for 70 years.
00:41:08.340That was one of the biggest, one of the reasons that Andrew Breitbart converted from being a West Side Hollywood liberal to being a firebrand of the Tea Party movement was the media and the universities at Tulane,
00:41:20.920what he had seen there in the American Studies program, which he said, hey, taught him the Frankfurt School of How to Hate America.
00:41:26.420Yeah. Judge, just before we go, this audience, the call to action is to call and talk to, get on the phone, email, text, judiciary, Jim Jordan,
00:41:35.960and other people in the judiciary that we have to start bringing these judges in for interviews, for questioning.
00:41:41.160Is that Judge Lee Gorman's recommendation?
00:41:55.240And one more thing, you know, in those early days, you mentioned, it was so great when Andrew came and got that little townhouse back behind the Supreme Court.
00:42:09.800And there was a gathering late one winter night and a lot of people there having a good time.
00:42:14.700And I share with President Trump that I don't drink.
00:42:17.900And I had a brother that did and lost him.
00:42:21.080But I come out, you know, wee hours, and I come out, and there is Stephen K. Bannon sweeping off the steps.
00:42:30.340And I'm going, I knew your background, you know, and your brilliant intellect.
00:42:34.940And there you were sweeping off the steps trying to make sure everybody got home safely.
00:42:39.880And I go, Stephen, you're sweeping the steps.
00:42:43.560And he goes, got to make sure everybody gets home safe.
00:42:46.480And I'm going, wow, this is a real servant intellectual, and I've admired you ever since.
00:42:56.920Judge Gohmert, what's your social media, sir?
00:45:15.320I tell you, this is, and my question to Jim Jordan and these folks, why does it take you so long to get on point on anything?
00:45:25.480Why these judges should have been, now, President Trump's had to have gone to the Supreme Court.
00:45:30.220Why didn't judiciary come in and call this judge in last week and let's grill him in front of the nation to see?
00:45:37.160Now, President Trump's had to go to the Supreme Court immediately.
00:45:40.760So this whole thing, you know, you had the appellate court the other day wouldn't remove Bosberg.
00:45:47.760So now they've had to go to the Supreme Court and they're asking for it to be put on the emergency docket, I think.
00:45:52.920Trying to get Mike Davis and Julie here to break it all down.
00:45:56.560But this thing, I told you, these are metastasizing in front of us and it's time to go on offense.
00:46:05.180Paolo, we are, I'll talk to you after the show.
00:46:06.920We are doing some work to make sure, yeah, I don't understand why we have not given how important Bolsonaro is to his country and to freedom throughout the world.
00:49:51.140But it was from the carrier strike group's perspective, which is the U.S.'s perspective, it went off flawlessly, and that should be the standard.
00:50:03.580Spencer Morrison, the author of the great book, which is on fire, I think you've sold out the first reshoring, which I absolutely love.
00:50:10.320You've got a great piece in the blaze this morning.
00:50:12.740As we got through the 20, I shouldn't say we got through, we announced the 25% on autos, President Trump did, from the Oval, as a predicate to what he calls Liberation Day, which is next week.
00:50:25.300Now, I think the autos kick in the same day as the Liberation Day, so Liberation Day is going to be on the 2nd.
00:50:31.580You've got an incredible piece at the blaze I would like to get up and make sure Grace and Moe and others, Elizabeth over at Telegram, everybody get it up.
00:50:40.480So, and Carly Bonet, everybody could get, this should be read.
00:50:45.400It's kind of a, it's kind of a, a scene setter or an opener for President Trump.
00:50:51.480And folks, the, in fact, hang on, Spencer, I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:50:56.840I'm going to give you plenty of runway here.
00:50:58.300I don't know if there's anything close to President Trump's heart.
00:51:01.680Obviously, building the wall and securing the border and, and getting our sovereignty back, our territorial integrity, everything dealing with immigration and this invasion it took on, obviously very close to his heart.
00:51:13.640But the, the key part is that he wants to rejuvenate America and make America another leading industrial power, the leading industrial power, which we were for decade after decade after decade after decade.
00:51:35.560And geo-economically, as geo-strategically he pivots to hemispheric defense in America first, foreign policy, geo-economically, he wants to return manufacturing, high value added manufacturing to the United States to once again make us a manufacturing superpower.
00:51:56.980And with that, all the ancillary jobs, because a happy society is built upon great jobs, and President Trump understands that.
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