Bannon's War Room - Episode 4379： Rise Of The Liberal Resistance; Oliver Stone To Speak In Front Of GOP Oversight

00:00:00.000 Quite a remarkable moment. And I don't think there's any recent precedent that I'm familiar with where the president of the United States has single handedly become the major risk factor in the global economy.

00:00:12.060 We are only hours away from April 2nd, the self-styled Liberation Day, Donald Trump says, of the American economy. We don't know the details and specifics of the plan because it's being treated like a reality television show rollout for the future of the global economy.

00:00:30.140 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:43.400 I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:54.760 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:05.160 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:01:15.100 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:01:24.760 It's Tuesday, 1 April, in the year of our Lord, 2025. Today, folks, strap in. It's absolutely packed all day.

00:01:34.840 Here in the War Room, of course, obviously Florida 1, Florida 6.

00:01:39.440 If you're in those two districts in Florida and you're a member of the War Room Posse, you know, put your shoulder to the wheel today.

00:01:45.660 We've got to win both and we've got to win by big margins.

00:01:47.880 Wisconsin, we've got Brad Schimming. I'm going to give you a rally check.

00:01:51.600 The early numbers I've seen do not look great for Wisconsin.

00:01:55.980 That's why we have to have a massive game day turnout.

00:01:59.620 And I know there's inclement weather in part of the state.

00:02:01.800 So Schimming's going to join us in the 11 o'clock hour.

00:02:05.440 The eve of Liberation Day, really the biggest geoeconomic reset about the American economy since the Second World War.

00:02:14.500 I agree with that, with all the pundits talking about they quite missed the mark on what the real mathematics here in the economy.

00:02:22.760 We're going to talk about that.

00:02:24.720 Stunning news out of both Ukraine about running this war.

00:02:28.620 The New York Times, the fake New York Times, the failing New York Times, President Trump says,

00:02:33.000 actually two amazing pieces in the New York Times that are shockingly along the lines of what the Warrens have been talking about the last couple of years.

00:02:41.240 A stunning piece that we're going to talk about tonight, six o'clock, because I need some people to help me break it down,

00:02:47.600 about the American military, the CIA and British commandos essentially running the war from Germany in the years of this war.

00:02:57.780 We'll get to that.

00:02:58.920 Also, another blockbuster report about what President Trump has done to not just shut down the border,

00:03:05.900 but really shut down fentanyl trafficking and drug trafficking and the chemical warfare from the New York Times.

00:03:11.340 Todd Benzman's gotten an analysis of that and others.

00:03:14.260 We call it all quiet on the southern front, and Todd Benzman is going to join us.

00:03:20.480 We got the tariffs today, people still working through.

00:03:23.100 I'm not quite sure that it's actually the structure and the tiers and reciprocity versus 15%.

00:03:30.220 We're going to work through that all day with you today.

00:03:32.800 On top of that, there's a press briefing at noon.

00:03:35.000 Natalie's going to be there for that.

00:03:36.540 You got, and Brian Glenn.

00:03:39.680 APL, Anna Paulina Luna has got a Kennedy, a JFK assassination hearing today.

00:03:45.320 We're going to stream it live at two o'clock.

00:03:46.860 I think that Oliver Stone is going to testify there and others about CIA involvement,

00:03:56.040 intelligent community involvement in President Kennedy's assassination.

00:03:59.920 The great Mike Benz is going to join Natalie and myself tomorrow morning.

00:04:04.940 We're going to go through.

00:04:05.780 Benz has got an amazing piece, does all the analysis of Bolsonaro, Le Pen, President Trump.

00:04:11.020 You heard President Trump say last night how shocked he was about the situation in France.

00:04:14.900 Benz, who's the best of this, has a very detailed analysis he's doing.

00:04:19.940 He's going to share it with us tomorrow.

00:04:21.860 Also, on top of all that, Melania is over at the State Department today.

00:04:25.460 Jack Posobiec and his wife will be there.

00:04:27.680 We'll also be covering it live.

00:04:30.340 So there's so much to go.

00:04:31.280 And that's going to be election coverage tonight.

00:04:33.960 So a full day.

00:04:36.420 On the eve of Liberation Day, still working through, I think, some of the math on the tariffs.

00:04:40.660 I have been saying, guys, you know, hey, at some point in time, we have to have a rollout.

00:04:46.660 And, of course, the war room is going to be the tip of the spear on that.

00:04:50.340 I think if you watch mainstream media, we have ceded the ground to let these people, I think, poison people's minds.

00:04:56.280 Everything that's coming out of mainstream media is absolutely 100 percent wrong about really where the world's economy is,

00:05:02.220 what drives the world's economy, how central trade is to that,

00:05:05.500 and how the MAGA movement is not an isolationist movement.

00:05:08.900 President Trump has really thought this through.

00:05:12.000 And so between the elections today, right, in Wisconsin, which you should assume Wisconsin,

00:05:18.080 besides all the issues internal to Wisconsin, which are huge, you should consider that two House seats.

00:05:25.140 It's a 6-2 delegation.

00:05:26.460 If we lose, it's going to go 4-4.

00:05:28.600 And then you've got the two seats in Florida, which we should win.

00:05:32.480 It's about the margins.

00:05:33.900 Gates won.

00:05:34.720 Florida won by 32 points with President Trump at the top of the ticket.

00:05:38.140 President Trump at the top of the ticket with Mike Waltz, the new National Security Advisor,

00:05:42.660 won Florida 6 by 30 points.

00:05:45.060 I think Florida 6 is, you know, people have to represent today.

00:05:49.200 You've got to be honest.

00:05:50.000 You've got to represent today.

00:05:51.460 Florida won.

00:05:52.040 We should be okay.

00:05:52.880 But I don't think of those margins.

00:05:54.240 And the mainstream media is going to use that narrative to bury President Trump and others,

00:05:59.960 I think, starting this evening.

00:06:01.000 So we've got to make sure that we push these over the top, both in Wisconsin and in Florida.

00:06:06.340 Natalie Winters is doing so.

00:06:07.780 So the, as you know, the judicial part, you can see on a global basis, whether it's Bolsonaro on trial for his life,

00:06:14.020 essentially, in Brazil.

00:06:15.680 Le Pen going to prison for four years and being shut out of running for president.

00:06:20.920 And those two individuals lead substantially in the polls for returning to their, for Le Pen winning for the first time,

00:06:28.040 because they kind of controlled the assembly there.

00:06:29.860 But Front National or National, you know, rally, whatever they call it today,

00:06:34.660 really the populist nationalist right taking France for the first time ever.

00:06:39.340 She's up by 12 or 15.

00:06:40.720 Bolsonaro is up by 15 or 20.

00:06:42.300 Obviously, President Trump won a sweeping victory and has still turned the country around right track, wrong track.

00:06:48.080 They're using the legal.

00:06:49.720 That's the tip of the spear.

00:06:50.980 They've also got the media, although we're shattering that every day.

00:06:54.100 But it's this resistance.

00:06:57.540 And I tell people, hey, you got two choices here.

00:06:59.840 Either join us and we're going to sort this mess out at the ballot box and with people that follow the rule of law

00:07:06.440 and believe in this nation as a republic,

00:07:09.640 or you're going to have a French Revolution type situation, folks.

00:07:12.980 It's coming.

00:07:13.920 And on this one, I am not wrong.

00:07:15.560 I have not been wrong on any of these major elements of this movement.

00:07:19.680 I don't know in 15 years.

00:07:22.160 And I can see this coming.

00:07:23.900 And it's being fueled by not just the deep state.

00:07:27.900 It's being fueled by the institutions that we're after right now.

00:07:30.460 I want to play a short clip from Rachel Maddow.

00:07:33.520 I'm going to bring in Natalie Winters, who's deconstructed all of this. 0.84

00:07:36.900 Let's take let's look at Rachel Maddow or bring Natalie in. 1.00

00:07:39.640 Do you understand this idea of the resistance lab and what you're talking about in practical terms at these events?

00:07:46.660 Yeah.

00:07:47.340 I mean, what we decided is that we really need to help Americans understand what happens when democracies fall, when dictators take over.

00:07:55.980 We've been pretty complacent in America.

00:07:58.360 We haven't had to really deal with this in any real way.

00:08:02.220 And now I think people need to understand what are the lessons from other countries and working with experts who have studied democratic backsliding in countries around the world.

00:08:12.240 And the resistance movements that emerged to take on that democratic backsliding.

00:08:17.100 We've developed a curriculum where we help people understand how do you go after the pillars of support, not necessarily the person at the top, but the pillars of support that allow that person to continue to have power.

00:08:31.200 And how do you shift allies from being sort of passive opponents to being active supporters of taking down a dictatorship?

00:08:41.320 And so it's been very practical.

00:08:43.400 It's been very hands on.

00:08:45.140 We've taken the principles of Dr.

00:08:47.280 King's, the six principles of nonviolent resistance that is threaded throughout.

00:08:51.800 And we're going to have a second training that goes deeper into what happens if you are trying to do nonviolent protest, but others are coming and instituting violence on you.

00:09:02.180 Think of church basements across Selma, right, Rachel, all the training that went into preparing people.

00:09:08.820 And at the end of the day, we are plugging people in both to actions that are happening right now in their locale that they can get engaged in, but also preparing them for the moments that will come of coordinated resistance, whether it's distributed action or mass action that people need to be ready for.

00:09:26.720 And we're increasing the understanding, which also increases the ability for people to think about taking more risk, perhaps, than they might have otherwise, because that level of risk tolerance goes up based on how severe people think things are.

00:09:42.920 So we're really readying us for those big moments that we hope don't come, but certainly look like that is the direction that we're headed.

00:09:51.460 Okay, folks, when they talk about pillars of support of President Trump, one, it's Elon Musk, obviously, and Elon Musk, the visibles, the Tesla dealerships, but take your number two, get your notebook out and take your number two pencil down and write this down.

00:10:07.460 A pillar of support of President Trump would be you, not simply this show and not simply the precinct strategy and Project 2025.

00:10:15.780 You know, if you look at the two things of the public intellectuals working on policy, so we'd have days of thunder for years and years in the precinct strategy, which had President Trump's back and led the turnaround that brought President Trump back with his leadership to this monumental victory and this bringing together this coalition, 1932 type coalition.

00:10:33.920 But pillars of support would be you, okay, so just note that like in the French Revolution, in the Bolshevik Revolution, on all these revolutions that were from the dark side, eventually they come after the citizens that actually support the rule of law and the kind of Republican small R virtues. 0.56

00:10:58.140 And they talk about distributed action and they talk about distributed action and then direct action.

00:11:02.300 These are loaded terms and they're being loaded, they're loaded terms, Natalie Winters, thank you for joining us.

00:11:10.360 This is the color revolution on steroids.

00:11:13.620 People have to understand this is going to go to a very dark place and it's going to go to a very dark place quite quickly because they cannot win any other way.

00:11:25.380 So, Natalie, take it from the top, we've got plenty of time, here we've got the whole next block, walk us through your theory of the case, ma'am.

00:11:33.460 Sure, I think that very well may have been the most radical three minutes of the Rachel Maddow show since the inauguration of President Donald J. Trump.

00:11:42.160 You obviously picked up on the pillars of support frame.

00:11:45.260 Just remember, what they're doing to the Teslas right now is essentially what they want to do to you, the actual supporters of President Trump.

00:11:54.460 I guess the Teslas are just standing in the way.

00:11:57.180 But if you really, I think, analyze what Rep Jayapal said, some other quotes that I think are just important for context, quote,

00:12:04.580 allow that person to continue to have power.

00:12:08.360 She also references taking down a dictatorship and talks about essentially getting ahead of these protests, turning violent, which is stochastic terrorism to its core.

00:12:20.640 The idea that, oh, well, our movements are going to be hijacked by people who are violent.

00:12:25.140 It's not us.

00:12:25.800 We don't have anything to do with them.

00:12:27.340 What you just witnessed, this is not talking about protest or civil disobedience or a couple of young women marching around the National Mall saying that they like feminism.

00:12:37.880 This is the USAID deep state globalist playbook of regime change where they spend overtime amounts of hours.

00:12:46.780 They work in overdrive to depict regimes or rulers that they view as dictatorial, autocratic, authoritarian.

00:12:54.360 Why?

00:12:54.640 So then they have what they would describe as the moral or political justification to then oust them from power.

00:13:02.040 And Representative Jayapal is busy hosting, and we'll get into who exactly is funding these organizations after the break.

00:13:08.340 But these, not town halls or meetings, they call them training sessions.

00:13:12.840 She told the nation that she wants her supporters, quote, strike ready and should be preparing for violent conflict.

00:13:20.640 All these training sessions where they're working with, you guessed it, USAID, Chinese-funded Harvard Institute professors, not to understand how to democratically protest, but they're essentially playing out whether or not terrorism, violent action, or nonviolent action are the most successful tactics to bring about their goals.

00:13:42.460 This, um, this, um, this is not about get out the vote drives in Wisconsin.

00:13:51.040 This is not about, uh, going after Randy Fine for maybe not, uh, being the best of the best candidates.

00:13:59.320 This is not a debate over tariffs, of whether you should have reciprocity of tariffs, or if tariffs are actually a tax on the working class.

00:14:09.180 This is not a public policy debate.

00:14:13.320 This is the same exact revolutionary playbook that has been around since the French Revolution, to the Bolsheviks, to Mao, in an unbroken chain.

00:14:26.800 Every element of it.

00:14:30.800 And the funding from the U.S. government, and also from the highest levels of education at Harvard University.

00:14:37.700 Uh, get ready to go to DEFCON 2 on this.

00:14:43.580 Natalie Winters joins us after a short commercial break.

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00:16:10.660 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:16.320 Okay, we've got some really good news we're going to have on this show later with Todd Benzman and what really President Trump's action is taking place.

00:16:22.480 But in the political warfare that we're all engaged in right now, because that's what it is, I keep telling you, this is not a debating society.

00:16:32.140 You're not going—these people are not interested in your facts.

00:16:35.760 They're not interested in that.

00:16:36.820 But go back to January, February, March of 2021.

00:16:43.180 We used the war room.

00:16:44.180 We refused to move from Capitol Hill.

00:16:47.040 There was chains all around.

00:16:47.920 We had up-armored National Guard, 100 of them every day under Nancy Pelosi, with Humvees, armored Humvees.

00:16:56.260 The Capitol Hill looked like East Berlin at the end of World War II, right?

00:17:03.060 Completely occupied by troops.

00:17:04.900 They were trying to send a message.

00:17:06.980 We made sure that war room was—we were going to jam the guide on in a hill and rally around that point.

00:17:14.200 That's what happens when you take a blow in a battle.

00:17:17.360 And we had taken a blow in a battle.

00:17:19.440 We had won the 2020 election.

00:17:21.100 It had been stolen right in front of us, right?

00:17:23.360 And people felt powerless to do anything.

00:17:25.460 You didn't have any Republican representatives who were actually standing in the breach.

00:17:29.940 So you have to have a rally point.

00:17:31.580 You don't have a rally point.

00:17:32.320 You're just going to have a mass—just a wild retreat, and it's over.

00:17:36.700 Their equivalent to war room is the Rachel Maddow show.

00:17:39.440 Rachel Maddow, she makes, I don't know, 25 or 30 million bucks a year. 1.00

00:17:42.300 She took a $5 million pay cut.

00:17:44.260 Remember when she took off?

00:17:45.320 I said she didn't really want to be tainted with all this Biden stuff.

00:17:48.120 And quite frankly, she didn't.

00:17:49.140 She was going to go do for years West Wing-type TV.

00:17:52.460 Nothing appeared, right?

00:17:54.500 She wrote some books or did some documentaries.

00:17:57.680 She's now working every day for the first 100 days. 0.86

00:18:00.720 Why are they doing that?

00:18:02.080 They need a rally point.

00:18:03.760 They need a rally point.

00:18:05.400 And hers is getting—it's very different.

00:18:07.800 If you watch Rachel Maddow, she's not covering the news like anybody else.

00:18:13.160 She's doing it in the framework of a revolutionary, color revolution framework.

00:18:17.820 It's quite obvious.

00:18:18.840 It's—they're not talking about the things that are going on at Capitol Hill.

00:18:24.860 They're not.

00:18:25.400 This is color revolution.

00:18:27.700 And they're down the pike. 0.99

00:18:29.440 They teed this up last night with Jayapal as, yeah, this is Gandhi.

00:18:33.560 This is Martin Luther King.

00:18:34.820 We're doing a church space with a couple hundred people.

00:18:37.500 That's all a bald-faced lie.

00:18:40.000 This is the aspect, the shock troops of their revolution.

00:18:45.040 The shock troops.

00:18:45.940 It's in the streets, taking the streets.

00:18:47.220 It's the direct action part of the French Revolution, of the Bolsheviks, of Mao. 0.76

00:18:52.320 Am I saying they're dragging guillotines out today?

00:18:55.600 I'm not.

00:18:56.640 But if you look at some of the activities around Tesla, if there were Tesla executives or some people, they would drag a guillotine out.

00:19:06.420 Okay?

00:19:07.160 And this is what they're building to.

00:19:08.500 And now they're getting more focused and more organized.

00:19:11.720 Natalie Winters, take it away. 0.99

00:19:13.360 I want you to walk through this in detail and make sure folks understand that this is not Jayapal.

00:19:17.700 This is not a church basement.

00:19:19.040 They ain't teaching Gandhi.

00:19:20.300 They're not teaching Martin Luther King.

00:19:21.960 This is not nonviolent.

00:19:23.740 This has been funded by your tax dollars.

00:19:26.700 And it shouldn't be lost on people.

00:19:30.500 When Natalie starts talking about Harvard and what Harvard University has done about this and the thinking through of these labs and actually building a revolutionary framework, you understand what President Trump did yesterday in saying, hey, Harvard, I think you're going to review your programs.

00:19:45.260 And I keep saying these universities and the review of these universities cannot just be about the Palestinian kids in Israel and Gaza.

00:19:54.800 That's too tight a frame.

00:19:56.580 You have to bring out what the Palestinian revolt is now is a red-green combination, radical jihad with this Marxist element to it. 0.84

00:20:07.120 Remember, the purpose, the point of the revolution is the revolution.

00:20:10.500 I'll tell you that all the time.

00:20:11.520 Gaza is just something they're thinking up now.

00:20:13.560 But it's much deeper than this.

00:20:15.260 And, folks, take your number two principle out and underline it.

00:20:19.360 When they say pillars of support, I would argue, and if I was in their rooms, I would argue the central pillar of support of Donald Trump is the MAGA movement, is you at home, the war room posse and other elements of the tip of the spear.

00:20:35.940 So don't think this is not coming for you because it is coming for you.

00:20:40.260 And you look at the French Revolution, you look at the Bolsheviks, you look at Mao Zedong, eventually they got to the working class and middle class. 0.83

00:20:48.020 They were just saying, hey, I'm just trying to be a good citizen, right?

00:20:51.140 No, no.

00:20:52.000 The last thing they want is good citizens.

00:20:54.360 Natalie Winters.

00:20:54.940 Well, Steve, I would just add last week alone on one of these mobilization phone calls for the Soros-funded Indivisible group, the Tesla protest organizers, the leader actually explicitly invoked Mao's 100 Flowers campaign, the 100 Flowers movement, saying that that was sort of what they were looking to emulate with their efforts to create revolution, to push back against President Trump.

00:21:19.720 And, of course, you have the president of the Open Society Foundation saying just a week ago, explicitly citing Anthony Gramsci, of course, the sort of godfather of cultural Marxism and the entire Frankfurt School critique of American culture as their ideological path forward.

00:21:35.480 So these are extremely radical people.

00:21:37.820 I also think, too, Steve, that we should underscore that who was speaking on Rachel Maddow last night?

00:21:42.840 It wasn't Indivisible.

00:21:44.280 It wasn't some activist. 0.50

00:21:45.540 It wasn't some far-left Soros-funded crazy person.

00:21:48.800 It was a member of Congress who has pledged to use these exact tactics and spread them among her colleagues.

00:21:55.840 The very same tactics were, like I said, she's calling on her supporters to be, quote, strike-ready and promising that violent protests are coming. 0.72

00:22:05.720 That's a direct quote from her.

00:22:07.100 She was speaking to the nation.

00:22:08.240 But to understand who exactly is funding this, who's behind it, this is a partner of the Harvard-Ash Center's Nonviolent Action Lab.

00:22:18.500 Like I said, it's very stochastically terroristic in its namesake in the sense that they really want you to know that they're nonviolent.

00:22:24.940 I'd ask you, why are they working overtime to demonstrate that they're so nonviolent?

00:22:29.280 But this is a group who is sort of hosting these training sessions in conjunction with Democrat members of Congress.

00:22:35.780 And the person who leads this entity is someone by the name of Erica Chenoweth.

00:22:41.320 Now, she uses they, them pronouns, so do with that what she will.

00:22:46.380 But this is someone who has deep, deep ties to USAID, the State Department, and the United States Institute of Peace.

00:22:55.000 Her resume shows that she has lectured repeatedly at USAID in 2015, 2016, and as recently as 2022.

00:23:04.140 She's also authored several reports, sort of from this nonviolent resistance revolution, color revolution framework for USAID as the lead investigator and a recipient of several five-figure grants.

00:23:18.940 Some of these topics, these papers include youth and LGBTQ participation in nonviolent action, struggles from below, human rights struggles by domestic actors, and civil resistance and corporate behavior, mapping trends and assessing impact.

00:23:33.140 But why this character is, I think, so particularly interesting and important is because her entire career is essentially about analyzing the most effective tools, not for protest, but for toppling, dictatorial, or autocratic regimes.

00:23:51.800 And she wrote this whole long book where they analyze case by case hundreds of revolutions, and they come to the conclusion that nonviolent resistance is the most effective tactic or playbook, not because they disavow terrorism or violent action, but simply because they think it's just empirically a better tactic.

00:24:12.940 What you're talking about is essentially the raw materials from an academic and literature perspective for creating bombs, or maybe in this case it's more firebombing.

00:24:24.140 But I just want to read for the audience just to get a sense some of the books or journal papers that this individual has written, quote, how to topple a dictator, the role of violence and nonviolent resistance, resilient republics, why terrorism does not destroy democracy, the study of terrorism, achievements and analytical challenges ahead, to bribe or to bomb, do corruption and terrorism go together?

00:24:46.080 And also she wrote the seminal Oxford handbook on terrorism, including participating in panel discussions on events titled, quote, is terrorism ever legitimate?

00:24:57.340 But I think this one piece of work really articulates the threat of this center, which is, quote, why civil resistance works, the strategic logic of nonviolent conflict.

00:25:08.060 Where I said the reason why they're disavowing, at least right now, terrorism and violent action is not because they find anything morally, ethically or principally wrong with it, just because they think it's not an effective tool.

00:25:21.620 And to sort of broaden out this USAID critique, which I think the Mike Benzes of the world have accurately identified, where they essentially identify a regime that they don't like, that's populist.

00:25:32.240 They then say, oh, well, you're autocratic, you're dictatorial, so therefore we can use outside the system changes, go after your pillars of support.

00:25:40.120 Well, if you can believe it or not, the Ash Center, which we've actually reported on War Room years ago through a different lens, which we can get into on the Chinese Communist Party funded angle of it.

00:25:50.100 But this group, though, despite the fact that they deleted their webpage showing who they're funded by, their top donors are USAID and the State Department.

00:25:59.480 And one last point on Erica Chenoweth, she also has lectured repeatedly at the United States Institute of Peace.

00:26:07.080 She served as a consultant to the United States Institute of Peace from 2017 to 2019, and similarly has authored a host of papers receiving five and six figure, or six, sorry, four and five figure grants from this now defunct institution to spread, again, not protest, not women's march,

00:26:26.000 not let's celebrate democracy, but full-blown regime change.

00:26:33.580 Natalie, hang right there.

00:26:34.580 I'm going to hold you into the next break.

00:26:36.900 Two things I want to say as we go to break here with modern-day Holy War. 0.81

00:26:40.800 Of course, Caroline Levy gave that great interview to David Brody and the team over at Christian Broadcasting.

00:26:46.440 Amazing, amazing talk about the spiritual warfare.

00:26:48.260 They can't even feel it in the White House.

00:26:50.360 Two points we're going to tie together next.

00:26:53.240 Natalie brought up Gromsey, the Frankfurt School.

00:26:56.480 Who brought that forward to the American people?

00:26:58.600 Andrew Breitbart.

00:26:59.920 In the days of the Tea Party, the early days of the Tea Party, Andrew Breitbart, over and over again, Code Pink and all of it.

00:27:07.060 He saw through it with Occupy Wall Street, Code Pink, the color revolution that was coming in our country. 0.93

00:27:14.040 That was Breitbart.

00:27:16.340 He was the man that cultures upriver in politics from Gromsey and Frankfurt School, his analysis.

00:27:23.000 Also, the Chinese Communist Party, the black hand of the CCP, the revolutionary, that's the core, the railhead of the revolutionary movement in this world today.

00:27:33.920 Whether it's in Brazil, whether it's in the streets of Los Angeles, whether it's on these college campuses,

00:27:39.140 those two, the Frankfurt School, Gromsey, the combination of the radical jihad and the cultural Marxist left.

00:27:49.360 It's in America.

00:27:50.720 This is why CNN's coverage now is irrelevant.

00:27:53.120 We almost play no clips.

00:27:54.720 It's MSNBC.

00:27:55.780 It's Rachel Maddow.

00:27:56.780 That is the intellectual railhead of this revolutionary movement.

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00:29:41.920 I'm going to get back to Natalie in a second, but we have Congressman APO Anna Paulina Luna on the phone.

00:29:50.700 Congresswoman, today at 2 o'clock, there's an incredible massive hearing on the Kennedy assassination,

00:29:57.320 the Kennedy files, and the involvement potentially maybe of the intelligence apparatus of the United States government.

00:30:04.480 My question to you is why is a young congressman from Florida, an Air Force veteran,

00:30:10.240 why has it fallen to you to kind of lead this, to really expose what the deep state did or didn't do in this still on the questions we have about President Kennedy assassination?

00:30:25.080 Because I would argue that's the inflection point when everything started going wrong in this country.

00:30:30.240 If you look up at it then, it was kind of the great feeling of the end of World War II.

00:30:36.480 So why has it fallen upon you to do this, ma'am?

00:30:38.600 Well, I'd say, first of all, I have some incredible lawmakers that have joined me in championing this cause

00:30:44.480 and are willing to put their name and reputations on the line in order to expose the truth.

00:30:49.160 But really, for the first time, and you are right, Steve, after the assassination of John F. Kennedy,

00:30:53.760 that's when you really start to see the growth and mistrust of the American population with their government

00:30:59.160 and then also these intelligence agencies.

00:31:01.160 And that's largely because of how the federal government, specifically Congress,

00:31:05.400 handled the investigations looking into what happened with President Kennedy at the time.

00:31:09.820 So the irony in all this is, obviously, you would think that this is, you know, not supposed to be a partisan issue.

00:31:16.180 But we're still finding that because of the fact that the CIA was largely, you know,

00:31:21.940 named in these newly declassified documents as either stonewalling investigations

00:31:26.060 or in some of the documents that we're finding, they actually destroyed evidence.

00:31:30.860 So, I mean, these are all new facts that the American people suspected, but they never had hard evidence of.

00:31:36.280 And you're going to see those facts represented to the American people.

00:31:39.280 I think you're going to see the narrative that the Warren Commission pushed.

00:31:43.560 Whether nefarious or not, you know, painting a picture, pushing a narrative without presenting all the facts

00:31:48.820 and then omitting evidence, I think, is very disturbing.

00:31:52.420 And so, you know, I've always been about truth and transparency,

00:31:56.200 and at least for the constituents that I have in Pinellas County,

00:31:59.320 the number one thing they always ask me is, you know, we want you to help end and fight government corruption.

00:32:03.940 And so, you know, even to the Democrats on the task force, you know,

00:32:08.860 they're realizing that President Kennedy, arguably one of the most popular presidents aside from Trump in U.S. history,

00:32:14.280 you know, if his own government cannot be forward about what happened, you know, that's a bad precedence for us all.

00:32:21.780 And so I'm looking forward to Mr. Morley, who will be testifying, to Mr. Stone, who will be testifying.

00:32:27.660 That's Oliver Stone.

00:32:28.600 And then also to one of Mr. Stone's researchers.

00:32:33.240 And we are also going to be doing follow-ups for this, but it's definitely an incredible task that we have at hand.

00:32:39.360 And I just look forward to, you know, helping to represent those facts to the American people and let them decide.

00:32:46.040 No, it couldn't be more timely because all these issues now with the deep state,

00:32:49.000 we've been going through with Natalie for the first 30 minutes of the show,

00:32:51.980 all these issues with this color revolution.

00:32:55.800 How did you get – this is a superstar panel of folks.

00:33:00.580 How did you pull this together?

00:33:03.120 You know, it started by reaching out.

00:33:05.600 So, actually, I was doing some of my own research, and I came across Mr. Morley's writings.

00:33:11.760 And then, coincidentally enough, I like to call these quantum breadcrumbs.

00:33:15.060 At the same time that I'd come across him, about a week and a half later,

00:33:17.840 he actually had someone reach out to my official office and said, you know, my name is Jeff Morley.

00:33:22.000 I'd be interested in speaking with you about the assassination of President Kennedy.

00:33:25.320 And so I met with him.

00:33:26.500 And my new Mr. Morley is, you know, Bernie Sanders blue, okay?

00:33:29.520 So he's not a MAGA Republican, but on this issue specifically, understanding the implications that this has,

00:33:35.760 not just on our republic, but also to the amount of research and history here that all of these,

00:33:42.900 the JFK community as a whole, has wanted to uncover and has been blocked by multiple administrations,

00:33:48.100 whether they're Democrat or Republican until now.

00:33:50.580 This was incredibly important.

00:33:51.840 So he came in for a meeting, and then we actually reached out to a few other witnesses,

00:33:57.300 and they would talk to us, and they were great witnesses.

00:34:00.040 Some of them had been on the assassination review board, all of that.

00:34:04.000 But when it came time to ask them to testify, they would say yes, and then they would get cold feet.

00:34:09.660 And so I still think that there's a lot of, I would say, maybe disappointment in how Congress previously handled this.

00:34:16.500 But I've let all the witnesses know that this is—we're not, you know, putting them on trial here.

00:34:20.860 We're simply interested in getting to the facts.

00:34:23.380 And what you'll see is with a fact pattern, it provides a mosaic.

00:34:26.620 Maybe we don't get a metaphorical smoking—a literal smoking gun here.

00:34:30.460 But I think that the evidence speaks for itself when you have the government omitting evidence,

00:34:34.420 and you see that the CIA intentionally, you know, tried to undermine Congress's investigations.

00:34:41.700 I think that that answers the questions that we all had.

00:34:44.540 And so there's going to be some more interesting testimony that you'll find today.

00:34:47.460 I don't want to ruin it for, you know, Mr. Stone or for Mr. Morley.

00:34:50.860 But I do think that there will be follow-up to this,

00:34:53.340 and I just hope that the American people can finally get their own answers.

00:34:58.980 For our audience, we'll be live-streaming it gavel-to-gavel today starting at 2 p.m.

00:35:03.800 Last question.

00:35:04.740 What is your objective?

00:35:06.520 Where is this going?

00:35:08.240 Give us a—we have this hearing today.

00:35:11.380 I'm sure it's going to be explosive.

00:35:13.280 Where is APL taking this, ma'am?

00:35:16.060 Well, first of all, you guys can also follow on our social media.

00:35:19.040 So at Rep Luna, we're going to be live-streaming there.

00:35:21.580 But, again, we're doing follow-ups.

00:35:23.040 We actually—I don't want to ruin the testimony because I was just with Mr. Morley and Mr. Stone last night.

00:35:28.880 But we're going to be doing a follow-up, whether it's an official hearing or more of a roundtable,

00:35:35.320 but with some actual witnesses that were there at the assassination of John F. Kennedy that Mr. Stone said that he could actually bring in and connect us to.

00:35:43.060 And I think those testimonies are important because they were omitted from the Warren Commission's report.

00:35:49.940 And I think for a long time, a lot of these people wanted to speak, but they were disregarded because of the amount of secrecy surrounding JFK as, you know, kooks. 0.51

00:36:00.820 And I think that that in itself is the problem, right?

00:36:03.560 You had people that were good American people, regardless of party affiliation, that had something to say, that were there.

00:36:10.220 Maybe it refuted the official narrative, but they were basically painted in a way that is wrong, right?

00:36:16.000 Like, we should genuinely want to understand what happened.

00:36:19.560 What's interesting, Steve, is last night I was on social media, and I saw that there was a video that this really big leftist—and I don't want to say Democrat,

00:36:28.800 but like actual leftist blogger did—said today, you know, Republicans are going to be hosting a hearing on John F. Kennedy,

00:36:34.580 and they're going to try to say that the federal government was involved.

00:36:37.800 And I said, you know, isn't it interesting how the tables have turned, that you have a bipartisan task force that is being led by Republicans that is seeking to find the truth on what happened with the assassination of a Democrat president,

00:36:53.220 and yet they're still trying to paint this as a conspiracy theory when we're just simply going off facts and declassified documents.

00:36:59.820 And so it's definitely going to be an interesting hearing.

00:37:03.380 I think it's probably going to be one of the last few that we have on JFK in history, right, because we now have President Trump leading the declass efforts.

00:37:11.280 I just hope that history reflects that we did right by the American people in these last hearings.

00:37:17.780 I'm sure it will.

00:37:18.820 Social media, ma'am, before we let you go, where do people go?

00:37:21.420 Yeah, you can follow us on all of our official accounts at Repluna.

00:37:27.340 Congressman, thank you very much.

00:37:28.820 We'll see you at 2 o'clock.

00:37:33.380 Incredible.

00:37:36.040 Incredible effort right there.

00:37:37.800 Incredibly important.

00:37:38.660 It ties right back to what we're talking about today, because that began the long march through the institutions.

00:37:43.940 Natalie, I know you got some other clips.

00:37:45.840 We got about five minutes in this segment, and we're going to have you stick around.

00:37:50.460 Walk me through.

00:37:52.080 Go ahead.

00:37:52.560 Do you want to toss the clips right now?

00:37:54.060 Do we want to go to that?

00:37:55.340 Sure.

00:37:55.880 Yeah.

00:37:58.120 Let's go ahead.

00:37:59.080 Denver, if you can go ahead and play the clips for Natalie, and we'll bring Natalie back in. 0.86

00:38:03.380 In this moment of volatile transition, many have turned to this Antonio Gramsci's memorable quote.

00:38:11.920 The old is dying, but the new is not yet born.

00:38:17.180 And we stand at the crossroads.

00:38:19.820 The fight for open society values today does not lie in recovering the old world.

00:38:24.720 This is not a crisis that will be calmed down by top-down reforms that will revive all those old structures and multilateralism or nostalgically rebuild that which is broken.

00:38:37.520 So the task ahead of us is now to discover a new moral imagination.

00:38:44.240 Where are the people with the creativity that can shape, design, and build a new world that is yet to emerge?

00:38:51.180 Where that got started, you know, this is a let a thousand flowers bloom kind of moment where lots of people are going to have ideas and move with them and run with them.

00:38:58.480 We can't support everything.

00:38:59.900 We're going to kind of focus in on specific strategic interventions that we think we can really focus on for ourselves.

00:39:06.680 But just wanted to say that because I know there's some people who are disappointed and wanted to have more there that we do not have more.

00:39:12.660 Sorry.

00:39:15.320 Okay.

00:39:15.960 Natalie, first, those three people, the cast of characters, these folks are quite dangerous.

00:39:20.880 Who are they?

00:39:21.340 Yeah, I cannot underscore how truly radical these people are.

00:39:26.060 That's the president of George Soros' Open Society Foundation speaking in South Africa.

00:39:30.900 And that's the two founders of the Indivisible Movement.

00:39:34.140 Of course, the really premier organizer of the anti-Trump protests, the Tesla protests.

00:39:39.240 But I think it's important, Steve, too, as someone who has tracked, watched all the behind-the-scenes sort of organizing calls,

00:39:44.900 they're really desperate because it's very rare that you would see these people explicitly quoting the godfather of cultural Marxism

00:39:53.060 or literally admitting that their movement is inextricably linked, though these true pseudo-intellectuals called it the Thousand Flowers Movement.

00:40:00.060 It's the Hundred Flowers Movement.

00:40:01.640 But fact-checking aside, that's not something that they usually say out loud, right?

00:40:07.080 That is saying the quiet part out loud.

00:40:08.840 So I think it really is a testament not to how desperate they are.

00:40:12.620 I think that's maybe a reductive framework of it.

00:40:15.640 But how intensely they are working to really galvanize and really weaponize their base.

00:40:26.460 Natalie, we've got a lot more to do on this.

00:40:28.700 This is amazing work.

00:40:30.560 And you nailed it.

00:40:31.900 Indivisible, I think you said, two months ago, that they're going to be the leading organization in this.

00:40:37.280 You've got to get to the White House for a briefing.

00:40:39.520 Where do people go to get more information about all this?

00:40:42.420 I understand it's an ongoing process of what we're pulling together here.

00:40:45.220 But folks, put this at the top of the stack.

00:40:48.400 Because this and the legal, the judicial, right, what they're doing in this judicial insurrection leading to a judicial coup,

00:40:55.900 these are the shock troops.

00:40:58.060 And we're going to deconstruct all of this so you know exactly where they are.

00:41:00.800 And they're coming for you.

00:41:02.020 You're a major, I would say, the bearing wall of support.

00:41:07.020 When you talk about pillars of support, the MAGA movement and the war room posse is the bearing wall.

00:41:11.920 And this is a combination of the Chinese Communist Party, of Mao's thought, of the Bolsheviks, of all of it. 0.57

00:41:19.340 The French Revolution coming to the United States.

00:41:21.260 It's been here for decades and decades and decades.

00:41:24.540 They have no intention.

00:41:26.200 Let me be blunt.

00:41:26.960 They have no intention ever to allow a populist nationalist movement to actually take control and power in this country.

00:41:36.940 They don't.

00:41:37.940 They'll let Republican Rhinos controlled opposition be a false front and go along for years and years and years.

00:41:45.460 They'll allow that.

00:41:46.240 Just like in China today, in China today, there's 10 or I think there's 50 or 60 opposition parties.

00:41:52.660 They're just all tiny parties that don't matter, right?

00:41:56.600 This is, you know, we're DEFCON 2.

00:42:00.160 We're heading to DEFCON 1 on this.

00:42:01.900 Natalie, your social media, I know you got to get to the White House.

00:42:04.600 Your social media, all of it, ma'am.

00:42:08.200 I'll quickly tease you with this because I think I'll be back on this afternoon.

00:42:11.420 That same Harvard Center that's training the Democratic Party now, they were also responsible for training a sanctioned company that was responsible for administrating Xinjiang province and repressing the Uyghurs.

00:42:22.700 So how's that for the moral imagination of what they want to do to you that the Open Society president speaks about?

00:42:28.700 Natalie G. Winters, you can see I have all this up on my X.

00:42:31.500 If you want to read through it, watch the videos and see all the documents.

00:42:35.920 And Natalie, you'll be covering the briefing at noon and we'll see you back on the show at 5 o'clock this afternoon live from the White House.

00:42:41.060 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you.

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00:46:03.740 Todd Benson is going to walk you through how President Trump stopped the invasion.

00:46:08.320 We're in day 60.

00:46:10.100 He stopped the invasion.

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00:46:18.520 There's a thing of the border and the wall, and I call it all quiet on the southern front.

00:46:25.380 Trump did this.

00:46:27.040 But more importantly, it's also the chemical warfare by the Chinese Communist Party with their partners that cartels into the United States. 0.97

00:46:35.160 Benzman's report coming off of a New York Times report is breathtaking.

00:46:40.080 But the reason that they have—we stopped—President Trump stopped the invasion of the country.

00:46:44.940 This is why he's sending the terrorist gangs back on military aircraft to Central America and to Venezuela and being stopped by a federal judge,

00:46:53.440 at which he's going to say, hey, look, I'm commander-in-chief on the unitary theory of the executive theory.

00:46:59.540 You've got no room here, bro.

00:47:01.720 I'm rolling.

00:47:03.460 Let me—in the engine room, I want to thank the engine room.

00:47:05.560 And it was Andrew Breitbart that brought Gramsci, the Italian Marxist, thought in the Frankfurt School to a working class and middle class audience in the Tea Party.

00:47:16.180 Let me just read from Gramsci.

00:47:17.520 Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. 0.98

00:47:23.400 In the new order, socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of the schools, the universities, the churches, and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.

00:47:38.380 They're not shy.

00:47:39.120 It's up in your face.

00:47:40.820 It's up in your grills.

00:47:42.020 This is why I'm saying we can't narrow-cast what's happening to these universities, just the situation in Gaza and just the situation in Israel.

00:47:50.780 It's far deeper than that.

00:47:52.120 It's Israel as a manifestation of the Judeo-Christian West. 0.93

00:47:56.420 We have to pull the camera back.

00:47:57.840 And I'm saying for these public Ivies, I don't care if Michigan cut the $250 million DEI.

00:48:02.740 It's not good enough.

00:48:04.500 We need not just the Ivy Leagues.

00:48:06.280 You need to go to the public Ivies at Michigan, at Wisconsin, at Charlottesville, University of Michigan, University of Wisconsin, University of Virginia, University of North Carolina, University of Texas in Austin, Berkeley.

00:48:20.460 We're throwing University of Arizona and University of Florida.

00:48:23.400 I'll throw those two in for now.

00:48:24.600 All those public Ivies.

00:48:26.580 Go to them immediately and say, the billions of dollars we give you, you're not getting a penny.

00:48:31.540 And we want to purge, and I mean purge, the faculty senate, the faculty department, lounge, and we want to purge the administration.

00:48:40.380 We want cultural Marxists out.

00:48:43.560 Out.

00:48:44.180 We're not going to pay for it.

00:48:45.840 Taxpayers are not going to pay for this.

00:48:47.640 Not one of those states can afford the billions of dollars.

00:48:50.980 They will crumble like Columbia University crumbled.

00:48:54.020 They will shatter like Columbia University.

00:48:56.640 Columbia University surrendered in 48 hours.

00:49:00.000 They will surrender.

00:49:01.900 Michigan's right now trying to get ahead of it.

00:49:03.560 Oh, we cut the DEI.

00:49:04.620 We cut the $250 million.

00:49:05.740 It's not good enough.

00:49:08.240 There is a dark revolution in this country, and we're going to put it down.

00:49:14.060 There's no, no, no, no area for compromise here.

00:49:18.720 None.

00:49:19.940 I keep telling people, in all the happy talk and guys running around,

00:49:23.300 if you're still got the glow from the inauguration, get woke up now.

00:49:29.180 Awaken.

00:49:31.120 This is a fight for this country, and it couldn't be more evident right now. 0.66

00:49:37.460 And I'm telling you, their goal is to put President Trump into prison and have him die in prison,

00:49:43.020 just like in Bolsonaro, just like Le Pen.

00:49:46.560 If you think differently, you're dreaming.

00:49:50.020 This is what they want.

00:49:51.160 They want the Republican Party to be the controlled opposition, to run around,

00:49:54.220 we're going to do this, we're going to cut your taxes.

00:49:55.680 Look at where this country got because of that.

00:49:58.600 It was Trump that saved this nation, and it ain't saved yet.

00:50:02.480 Todd Benzman, tell me about this.

00:50:04.920 Unbelievable.

00:50:06.360 I know you've done this for years.

00:50:08.260 You're one of the key reasons that we took the country back,

00:50:10.700 and you're gobsmacked about what's happening at the border,

00:50:14.720 but now what's happening in the great war against the cartels, sir.

00:50:20.700 Yeah.

00:50:21.740 Well, tariffs are all the news right now.

00:50:25.840 Obviously, we're about to go into some live tariffs all over the world,

00:50:32.480 and one of them is Mexico, and this is a good time to point out that Trump's tariffs on Mexico

00:50:40.140 appears to have really shut down fentanyl smuggling, shut down fentanyl smuggling.

00:50:48.440 And let me explain into the United States, and let me explain what I mean by that.

00:50:52.420 It's early.

00:50:53.260 I don't want to be Pollyannish about this, but the last few months under Trump have led

00:51:01.240 to massive kinetic raids in Mexico in the city of Culiacon, which is the central hub of fentanyl

00:51:13.540 production that is the product smuggled over the U.S. border.

00:51:19.020 Well, they've shut that place down.

00:51:21.780 There were over 100 labs in that city and under threat from the Trump tariffs and a whole bunch

00:51:28.700 of other pressures on the cartel.

00:51:31.440 We're now seeing the seizures of fentanyl coming in over the border, falling by 50 percent in just

00:51:40.880 the last three months of Donald Trump.

00:51:44.680 This is huge.

00:51:45.680 That's the first reversal of a 10-year trend of steady climbing since 2018, 2019, of smuggling

00:51:55.540 and U.S. deaths, overdose deaths.

00:52:01.160 Now, where I'm getting this from, I've got a Daily Wire piece about to post about all of this.

00:52:07.620 You can read more detail about this incredible achievement.

00:52:11.120 This is, if this holds, the trend holds, this will be an amazing policy achievement by the

00:52:19.680 Trump administration, and especially if it translates.

00:52:23.920 It's huge.

00:52:24.900 The article is going to be up in Daily Wire.

00:52:26.280 I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:52:28.060 Here's the question.

00:52:29.860 The tariffs have stopped and cut at 50 percent.

00:52:32.260 Is the kinetic effort, as they say in Britain during World War II, before Normandy, is the party on?

00:52:43.520 Todd Benzman's going to answer that question. 0.73

00:52:46.020 Are we going kinetic to eviscerate and eliminate and annihilate the Mexican drug cartels, the local 0.99

00:52:54.700 partners of the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese gangs? 0.99

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Bannon's War Room - April 01, 2025

Episode 4379： Rise Of The Liberal Resistance; Oliver Stone To Speak In Front Of GOP Oversight

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