On this episode of the War Room, Stephen K. Bamb stops by Florida to campaign for Marco Rubio and Brad Schimel to give his take on the Florida primary and the upcoming Wisconsin primary election. President Trump announces his plan for a new border patrol station along the southern border, and the latest on the JFK Assassination hearing.
00:00:00.000Quite a remarkable moment. And I don't think there's any recent precedent that I'm familiar with where the president of the United States has single handedly become the major risk factor in the global economy.
00:00:12.060We are only hours away from April 2nd, the self-styled Liberation Day, Donald Trump says, of the American economy. We don't know the details and specifics of the plan because it's being treated like a reality television show rollout for the future of the global economy.
00:00:30.140This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:43.400I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:54.760And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:05.160Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:15.100War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:01:24.760It's Tuesday, 1 April, in the year of our Lord, 2025. Today, folks, strap in. It's absolutely packed all day.
00:01:34.840Here in the War Room, of course, obviously Florida 1, Florida 6.
00:01:39.440If you're in those two districts in Florida and you're a member of the War Room Posse, you know, put your shoulder to the wheel today.
00:01:45.660We've got to win both and we've got to win by big margins.
00:01:47.880Wisconsin, we've got Brad Schimming. I'm going to give you a rally check.
00:01:51.600The early numbers I've seen do not look great for Wisconsin.
00:01:55.980That's why we have to have a massive game day turnout.
00:01:59.620And I know there's inclement weather in part of the state.
00:02:01.800So Schimming's going to join us in the 11 o'clock hour.
00:02:05.440The eve of Liberation Day, really the biggest geoeconomic reset about the American economy since the Second World War.
00:02:14.500I agree with that, with all the pundits talking about they quite missed the mark on what the real mathematics here in the economy.
00:02:24.720Stunning news out of both Ukraine about running this war.
00:02:28.620The New York Times, the fake New York Times, the failing New York Times, President Trump says,
00:02:33.000actually two amazing pieces in the New York Times that are shockingly along the lines of what the Warrens have been talking about the last couple of years.
00:02:41.240A stunning piece that we're going to talk about tonight, six o'clock, because I need some people to help me break it down,
00:02:47.600about the American military, the CIA and British commandos essentially running the war from Germany in the years of this war.
00:07:47.340I mean, what we decided is that we really need to help Americans understand what happens when democracies fall, when dictators take over.
00:07:55.980We've been pretty complacent in America.
00:07:58.360We haven't had to really deal with this in any real way.
00:08:02.220And now I think people need to understand what are the lessons from other countries and working with experts who have studied democratic backsliding in countries around the world.
00:08:12.240And the resistance movements that emerged to take on that democratic backsliding.
00:08:17.100We've developed a curriculum where we help people understand how do you go after the pillars of support, not necessarily the person at the top, but the pillars of support that allow that person to continue to have power.
00:08:31.200And how do you shift allies from being sort of passive opponents to being active supporters of taking down a dictatorship?
00:08:47.280King's, the six principles of nonviolent resistance that is threaded throughout.
00:08:51.800And we're going to have a second training that goes deeper into what happens if you are trying to do nonviolent protest, but others are coming and instituting violence on you.
00:09:02.180Think of church basements across Selma, right, Rachel, all the training that went into preparing people.
00:09:08.820And at the end of the day, we are plugging people in both to actions that are happening right now in their locale that they can get engaged in, but also preparing them for the moments that will come of coordinated resistance, whether it's distributed action or mass action that people need to be ready for.
00:09:26.720And we're increasing the understanding, which also increases the ability for people to think about taking more risk, perhaps, than they might have otherwise, because that level of risk tolerance goes up based on how severe people think things are.
00:09:42.920So we're really readying us for those big moments that we hope don't come, but certainly look like that is the direction that we're headed.
00:09:51.460Okay, folks, when they talk about pillars of support of President Trump, one, it's Elon Musk, obviously, and Elon Musk, the visibles, the Tesla dealerships, but take your number two, get your notebook out and take your number two pencil down and write this down.
00:10:07.460A pillar of support of President Trump would be you, not simply this show and not simply the precinct strategy and Project 2025.
00:10:15.780You know, if you look at the two things of the public intellectuals working on policy, so we'd have days of thunder for years and years in the precinct strategy, which had President Trump's back and led the turnaround that brought President Trump back with his leadership to this monumental victory and this bringing together this coalition, 1932 type coalition.
00:10:33.920But pillars of support would be you, okay, so just note that like in the French Revolution, in the Bolshevik Revolution, on all these revolutions that were from the dark side, eventually they come after the citizens that actually support the rule of law and the kind of Republican small R virtues.
00:10:58.140And they talk about distributed action and they talk about distributed action and then direct action.
00:11:02.300These are loaded terms and they're being loaded, they're loaded terms, Natalie Winters, thank you for joining us.
00:11:10.360This is the color revolution on steroids.
00:11:13.620People have to understand this is going to go to a very dark place and it's going to go to a very dark place quite quickly because they cannot win any other way.
00:11:25.380So, Natalie, take it from the top, we've got plenty of time, here we've got the whole next block, walk us through your theory of the case, ma'am.
00:11:33.460Sure, I think that very well may have been the most radical three minutes of the Rachel Maddow show since the inauguration of President Donald J. Trump.
00:11:42.160You obviously picked up on the pillars of support frame.
00:11:45.260Just remember, what they're doing to the Teslas right now is essentially what they want to do to you, the actual supporters of President Trump.
00:11:54.460I guess the Teslas are just standing in the way.
00:11:57.180But if you really, I think, analyze what Rep Jayapal said, some other quotes that I think are just important for context, quote,
00:12:04.580allow that person to continue to have power.
00:12:08.360She also references taking down a dictatorship and talks about essentially getting ahead of these protests, turning violent, which is stochastic terrorism to its core.
00:12:20.640The idea that, oh, well, our movements are going to be hijacked by people who are violent.
00:12:25.800We don't have anything to do with them.
00:12:27.340What you just witnessed, this is not talking about protest or civil disobedience or a couple of young women marching around the National Mall saying that they like feminism.
00:12:37.880This is the USAID deep state globalist playbook of regime change where they spend overtime amounts of hours.
00:12:46.780They work in overdrive to depict regimes or rulers that they view as dictatorial, autocratic, authoritarian.
00:12:54.640So then they have what they would describe as the moral or political justification to then oust them from power.
00:13:02.040And Representative Jayapal is busy hosting, and we'll get into who exactly is funding these organizations after the break.
00:13:08.340But these, not town halls or meetings, they call them training sessions.
00:13:12.840She told the nation that she wants her supporters, quote, strike ready and should be preparing for violent conflict.
00:13:20.640All these training sessions where they're working with, you guessed it, USAID, Chinese-funded Harvard Institute professors, not to understand how to democratically protest, but they're essentially playing out whether or not terrorism, violent action, or nonviolent action are the most successful tactics to bring about their goals.
00:13:42.460This, um, this, um, this is not about get out the vote drives in Wisconsin.
00:13:51.040This is not about, uh, going after Randy Fine for maybe not, uh, being the best of the best candidates.
00:13:59.320This is not a debate over tariffs, of whether you should have reciprocity of tariffs, or if tariffs are actually a tax on the working class.
00:14:13.320This is the same exact revolutionary playbook that has been around since the French Revolution, to the Bolsheviks, to Mao, in an unbroken chain.
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00:16:16.320Okay, we've got some really good news we're going to have on this show later with Todd Benzman and what really President Trump's action is taking place.
00:16:22.480But in the political warfare that we're all engaged in right now, because that's what it is, I keep telling you, this is not a debating society.
00:16:32.140You're not going—these people are not interested in your facts.
00:19:30.500When Natalie starts talking about Harvard and what Harvard University has done about this and the thinking through of these labs and actually building a revolutionary framework, you understand what President Trump did yesterday in saying, hey, Harvard, I think you're going to review your programs.
00:19:45.260And I keep saying these universities and the review of these universities cannot just be about the Palestinian kids in Israel and Gaza.
00:20:15.260And, folks, take your number two principle out and underline it.
00:20:19.360When they say pillars of support, I would argue, and if I was in their rooms, I would argue the central pillar of support of Donald Trump is the MAGA movement, is you at home, the war room posse and other elements of the tip of the spear.
00:20:35.940So don't think this is not coming for you because it is coming for you.
00:20:40.260And you look at the French Revolution, you look at the Bolsheviks, you look at Mao Zedong, eventually they got to the working class and middle class.
00:20:48.020They were just saying, hey, I'm just trying to be a good citizen, right?
00:20:54.940Well, Steve, I would just add last week alone on one of these mobilization phone calls for the Soros-funded Indivisible group, the Tesla protest organizers, the leader actually explicitly invoked Mao's 100 Flowers campaign, the 100 Flowers movement, saying that that was sort of what they were looking to emulate with their efforts to create revolution, to push back against President Trump.
00:21:19.720And, of course, you have the president of the Open Society Foundation saying just a week ago, explicitly citing Anthony Gramsci, of course, the sort of godfather of cultural Marxism and the entire Frankfurt School critique of American culture as their ideological path forward.
00:21:35.480So these are extremely radical people.
00:21:37.820I also think, too, Steve, that we should underscore that who was speaking on Rachel Maddow last night?
00:21:45.540It wasn't some far-left Soros-funded crazy person.
00:21:48.800It was a member of Congress who has pledged to use these exact tactics and spread them among her colleagues.
00:21:55.840The very same tactics were, like I said, she's calling on her supporters to be, quote, strike-ready and promising that violent protests are coming.
00:22:08.240But to understand who exactly is funding this, who's behind it, this is a partner of the Harvard-Ash Center's Nonviolent Action Lab.
00:22:18.500Like I said, it's very stochastically terroristic in its namesake in the sense that they really want you to know that they're nonviolent.
00:22:24.940I'd ask you, why are they working overtime to demonstrate that they're so nonviolent?
00:22:29.280But this is a group who is sort of hosting these training sessions in conjunction with Democrat members of Congress.
00:22:35.780And the person who leads this entity is someone by the name of Erica Chenoweth.
00:22:41.320Now, she uses they, them pronouns, so do with that what she will.
00:22:46.380But this is someone who has deep, deep ties to USAID, the State Department, and the United States Institute of Peace.
00:22:55.000Her resume shows that she has lectured repeatedly at USAID in 2015, 2016, and as recently as 2022.
00:23:04.140She's also authored several reports, sort of from this nonviolent resistance revolution, color revolution framework for USAID as the lead investigator and a recipient of several five-figure grants.
00:23:18.940Some of these topics, these papers include youth and LGBTQ participation in nonviolent action, struggles from below, human rights struggles by domestic actors, and civil resistance and corporate behavior, mapping trends and assessing impact.
00:23:33.140But why this character is, I think, so particularly interesting and important is because her entire career is essentially about analyzing the most effective tools, not for protest, but for toppling, dictatorial, or autocratic regimes.
00:23:51.800And she wrote this whole long book where they analyze case by case hundreds of revolutions, and they come to the conclusion that nonviolent resistance is the most effective tactic or playbook, not because they disavow terrorism or violent action, but simply because they think it's just empirically a better tactic.
00:24:12.940What you're talking about is essentially the raw materials from an academic and literature perspective for creating bombs, or maybe in this case it's more firebombing.
00:24:24.140But I just want to read for the audience just to get a sense some of the books or journal papers that this individual has written, quote, how to topple a dictator, the role of violence and nonviolent resistance, resilient republics, why terrorism does not destroy democracy, the study of terrorism, achievements and analytical challenges ahead, to bribe or to bomb, do corruption and terrorism go together?
00:24:46.080And also she wrote the seminal Oxford handbook on terrorism, including participating in panel discussions on events titled, quote, is terrorism ever legitimate?
00:24:57.340But I think this one piece of work really articulates the threat of this center, which is, quote, why civil resistance works, the strategic logic of nonviolent conflict.
00:25:08.060Where I said the reason why they're disavowing, at least right now, terrorism and violent action is not because they find anything morally, ethically or principally wrong with it, just because they think it's not an effective tool.
00:25:21.620And to sort of broaden out this USAID critique, which I think the Mike Benzes of the world have accurately identified, where they essentially identify a regime that they don't like, that's populist.
00:25:32.240They then say, oh, well, you're autocratic, you're dictatorial, so therefore we can use outside the system changes, go after your pillars of support.
00:25:40.120Well, if you can believe it or not, the Ash Center, which we've actually reported on War Room years ago through a different lens, which we can get into on the Chinese Communist Party funded angle of it.
00:25:50.100But this group, though, despite the fact that they deleted their webpage showing who they're funded by, their top donors are USAID and the State Department.
00:25:59.480And one last point on Erica Chenoweth, she also has lectured repeatedly at the United States Institute of Peace.
00:26:07.080She served as a consultant to the United States Institute of Peace from 2017 to 2019, and similarly has authored a host of papers receiving five and six figure, or six, sorry, four and five figure grants from this now defunct institution to spread, again, not protest, not women's march,
00:26:26.000not let's celebrate democracy, but full-blown regime change.
00:27:16.340He was the man that cultures upriver in politics from Gromsey and Frankfurt School, his analysis.
00:27:23.000Also, the Chinese Communist Party, the black hand of the CCP, the revolutionary, that's the core, the railhead of the revolutionary movement in this world today.
00:27:33.920Whether it's in Brazil, whether it's in the streets of Los Angeles, whether it's on these college campuses,
00:27:39.140those two, the Frankfurt School, Gromsey, the combination of the radical jihad and the cultural Marxist left.
00:29:41.920I'm going to get back to Natalie in a second, but we have Congressman APO Anna Paulina Luna on the phone.
00:29:50.700Congresswoman, today at 2 o'clock, there's an incredible massive hearing on the Kennedy assassination,
00:29:57.320the Kennedy files, and the involvement potentially maybe of the intelligence apparatus of the United States government.
00:30:04.480My question to you is why is a young congressman from Florida, an Air Force veteran,
00:30:10.240why has it fallen to you to kind of lead this, to really expose what the deep state did or didn't do in this still on the questions we have about President Kennedy assassination?
00:30:25.080Because I would argue that's the inflection point when everything started going wrong in this country.
00:30:30.240If you look up at it then, it was kind of the great feeling of the end of World War II.
00:30:36.480So why has it fallen upon you to do this, ma'am?
00:30:38.600Well, I'd say, first of all, I have some incredible lawmakers that have joined me in championing this cause
00:30:44.480and are willing to put their name and reputations on the line in order to expose the truth.
00:30:49.160But really, for the first time, and you are right, Steve, after the assassination of John F. Kennedy,
00:30:53.760that's when you really start to see the growth and mistrust of the American population with their government
00:30:59.160and then also these intelligence agencies.
00:31:01.160And that's largely because of how the federal government, specifically Congress,
00:31:05.400handled the investigations looking into what happened with President Kennedy at the time.
00:31:09.820So the irony in all this is, obviously, you would think that this is, you know, not supposed to be a partisan issue.
00:31:16.180But we're still finding that because of the fact that the CIA was largely, you know,
00:31:21.940named in these newly declassified documents as either stonewalling investigations
00:31:26.060or in some of the documents that we're finding, they actually destroyed evidence.
00:31:30.860So, I mean, these are all new facts that the American people suspected, but they never had hard evidence of.
00:31:36.280And you're going to see those facts represented to the American people.
00:31:39.280I think you're going to see the narrative that the Warren Commission pushed.
00:31:43.560Whether nefarious or not, you know, painting a picture, pushing a narrative without presenting all the facts
00:31:48.820and then omitting evidence, I think, is very disturbing.
00:31:52.420And so, you know, I've always been about truth and transparency,
00:31:56.200and at least for the constituents that I have in Pinellas County,
00:31:59.320the number one thing they always ask me is, you know, we want you to help end and fight government corruption.
00:32:03.940And so, you know, even to the Democrats on the task force, you know,
00:32:08.860they're realizing that President Kennedy, arguably one of the most popular presidents aside from Trump in U.S. history,
00:32:14.280you know, if his own government cannot be forward about what happened, you know, that's a bad precedence for us all.
00:32:21.780And so I'm looking forward to Mr. Morley, who will be testifying, to Mr. Stone, who will be testifying.
00:35:23.040We actually—I don't want to ruin the testimony because I was just with Mr. Morley and Mr. Stone last night.
00:35:28.880But we're going to be doing a follow-up, whether it's an official hearing or more of a roundtable,
00:35:35.320but with some actual witnesses that were there at the assassination of John F. Kennedy that Mr. Stone said that he could actually bring in and connect us to.
00:35:43.060And I think those testimonies are important because they were omitted from the Warren Commission's report.
00:35:49.940And I think for a long time, a lot of these people wanted to speak, but they were disregarded because of the amount of secrecy surrounding JFK as, you know, kooks.
00:36:00.820And I think that that in itself is the problem, right?
00:36:03.560You had people that were good American people, regardless of party affiliation, that had something to say, that were there.
00:36:10.220Maybe it refuted the official narrative, but they were basically painted in a way that is wrong, right?
00:36:16.000Like, we should genuinely want to understand what happened.
00:36:19.560What's interesting, Steve, is last night I was on social media, and I saw that there was a video that this really big leftist—and I don't want to say Democrat,
00:36:28.800but like actual leftist blogger did—said today, you know, Republicans are going to be hosting a hearing on John F. Kennedy,
00:36:34.580and they're going to try to say that the federal government was involved.
00:36:37.800And I said, you know, isn't it interesting how the tables have turned, that you have a bipartisan task force that is being led by Republicans that is seeking to find the truth on what happened with the assassination of a Democrat president,
00:36:53.220and yet they're still trying to paint this as a conspiracy theory when we're just simply going off facts and declassified documents.
00:36:59.820And so it's definitely going to be an interesting hearing.
00:37:03.380I think it's probably going to be one of the last few that we have on JFK in history, right, because we now have President Trump leading the declass efforts.
00:37:11.280I just hope that history reflects that we did right by the American people in these last hearings.
00:38:19.820The fight for open society values today does not lie in recovering the old world.
00:38:24.720This is not a crisis that will be calmed down by top-down reforms that will revive all those old structures and multilateralism or nostalgically rebuild that which is broken.
00:38:37.520So the task ahead of us is now to discover a new moral imagination.
00:38:44.240Where are the people with the creativity that can shape, design, and build a new world that is yet to emerge?
00:38:51.180Where that got started, you know, this is a let a thousand flowers bloom kind of moment where lots of people are going to have ideas and move with them and run with them.
00:38:59.900We're going to kind of focus in on specific strategic interventions that we think we can really focus on for ourselves.
00:39:06.680But just wanted to say that because I know there's some people who are disappointed and wanted to have more there that we do not have more.
00:39:21.340Yeah, I cannot underscore how truly radical these people are.
00:39:26.060That's the president of George Soros' Open Society Foundation speaking in South Africa.
00:39:30.900And that's the two founders of the Indivisible Movement.
00:39:34.140Of course, the really premier organizer of the anti-Trump protests, the Tesla protests.
00:39:39.240But I think it's important, Steve, too, as someone who has tracked, watched all the behind-the-scenes sort of organizing calls,
00:39:44.900they're really desperate because it's very rare that you would see these people explicitly quoting the godfather of cultural Marxism
00:39:53.060or literally admitting that their movement is inextricably linked, though these true pseudo-intellectuals called it the Thousand Flowers Movement.
00:42:08.200I'll quickly tease you with this because I think I'll be back on this afternoon.
00:42:11.420That same Harvard Center that's training the Democratic Party now, they were also responsible for training a sanctioned company that was responsible for administrating Xinjiang province and repressing the Uyghurs.
00:42:22.700So how's that for the moral imagination of what they want to do to you that the Open Society president speaks about?
00:42:28.700Natalie G. Winters, you can see I have all this up on my X.
00:42:31.500If you want to read through it, watch the videos and see all the documents.
00:42:35.920And Natalie, you'll be covering the briefing at noon and we'll see you back on the show at 5 o'clock this afternoon live from the White House.
00:45:45.780Of course, the big investment banks, totally independent of War Room, totally independent of Birch, will give you access and links to their research reports.
00:46:12.580And if Mo and Grace can put it up so the chat room has it, and then you can share it because we need you as a force multiplier on all this.
00:46:18.520There's a thing of the border and the wall, and I call it all quiet on the southern front.
00:46:27.040But more importantly, it's also the chemical warfare by the Chinese Communist Party with their partners that cartels into the United States.
00:46:35.160Benzman's report coming off of a New York Times report is breathtaking.
00:46:40.080But the reason that they have—we stopped—President Trump stopped the invasion of the country.
00:46:44.940This is why he's sending the terrorist gangs back on military aircraft to Central America and to Venezuela and being stopped by a federal judge,
00:46:53.440at which he's going to say, hey, look, I'm commander-in-chief on the unitary theory of the executive theory.
00:47:03.460Let me—in the engine room, I want to thank the engine room.
00:47:05.560And it was Andrew Breitbart that brought Gramsci, the Italian Marxist, thought in the Frankfurt School to a working class and middle class audience in the Tea Party.
00:47:17.520Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity.
00:47:23.400In the new order, socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of the schools, the universities, the churches, and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.
00:47:42.020This is why I'm saying we can't narrow-cast what's happening to these universities, just the situation in Gaza and just the situation in Israel.
00:48:06.280You need to go to the public Ivies at Michigan, at Wisconsin, at Charlottesville, University of Michigan, University of Wisconsin, University of Virginia, University of North Carolina, University of Texas in Austin, Berkeley.
00:48:20.460We're throwing University of Arizona and University of Florida.