Episode 4381： Breaking Up The Ivy League Mafia; Election Night Wisconsin
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Summary
In honor of Steve K. Bannon's birthday, Natalie Winters joins The War Room to discuss his legacy, the deep state, and the dark side of the Democratic Party. Plus, a new piece from The Harvard Crimson exposing the connections between China and the Harvard Crimson.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Dave Brat sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
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And tonight in the A Block, sitting in with the great Natalie Winters as well.
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The border invasion, Congress and the Senate really didn't lift a finger.
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Today, President Trump and the White House is hitting on all cylinders.
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We're waiting for the House and the Senate to respond in kind.
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But you have seen on this show, and only on this show, the scale and the scope of the resistance of the left.
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They stop us at 100 with judges across the world now, as Steve's been showing on the show.
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I want to dig into this, the deep state, the administrative state.
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There's no one that has been better than this over the last years.
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That our very own Natalie Winters now at the White House.
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Quite a shot she's got going right there coming up to you.
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This morning, you had a great piece exposing two of my favorites, China, the CCP, and the Harvard Crimson, all in one story.
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Bring us up to speed on these connections, what they tell us about the deep state, and what can we do about this mess.
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Well, just to, I guess, wash, rinse, and repeat in honor of Stephen K. Bannon,
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this morning sort of springboarding off of Rachel Maddow's show last night, Representative Pramila Jayapal going on there talking about this concept of a resistance lab,
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which is probably, I would say, the most aggressive tactic, not in protest, but in color revolution and full-blown regime change that the Democratic Party and their allies are engaging in.
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We drilled down this morning on how the Harvard-Ash Center, which is helping to carry out this initiative,
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is not just itself funded by USAID and the State Department, but also the individual, a they-them pronoun user who runs it,
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while she herself is actually funded extensively by USAID, having lectured there repeatedly in addition to receiving funds from the United States Institutes of Peace.
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In other words, I think the most important takeaway, you're not talking about run-of-the-mill protests, civil disobedience, or disagreements with President Trump over policy disputes.
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You're talking about people who study terrorism, violent protest, and conflict to come to the conclusion that right now they might prefer nonviolent action,
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but that's only because they think it's more advantageous to their cause.
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We ran out of time, but I want to get to the sort of other side of the coin, the, I think, equally important issue with this Harvard Center,
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which is that it is also, now, despite the fact that the webpages are deleted, so they won't tell you this now,
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but they're actually funded by several Chinese Communist Party-run entities, including, but not limited to,
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the China Southern Power Grid Corporation, which is wholly run and operated by the Chinese Communist Party.
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Their entire board of directors is appointed by the CCP, in addition to New World China Enterprises Project,
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which, similarly, is one of these Chinese state-owned enterprises whose board is completely controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
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We've actually reported, believe it or not, three or four years ago, here in the War Room,
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on this exact institute, because they were caught publishing pro-Chinese Communist Party propaganda.
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They put out a report called Understanding CCP Resilience, Surveying Chinese Public Opinion Through Time,
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where they said that Xi Jinping was, quote, as strong as ever and under no imminent threat of popular upheaval.
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This report was hyped by the Chinese Communist Party, saying, look how popular we are.
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You know, we're doing better than the United States.
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And I think the most important takeaway from this, Dave, and you've obviously been around War Room probably longer than I have,
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but this idea, right, of elite merger as opposed to just elite compromise,
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but how American elites are quite envious, I think, of the powers that the Chinese Communist Party weaponizes over their people.
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Believe it or not, this very same Ash Center, which, like we said, is training not just Democrat activists,
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but members of Congress, well, they actually run, or used to run, it's now held over at Cambridge,
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but China's Leaders in Development program for over a decade, which was, quote,
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widely recognized by the Chinese government as one of the best overseas training programs for government officials,
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continuing their description, taught both at Xinhua University, China, and Harvard Kennedy School.
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This multi-week training program is specifically designed to help prepare senior local and central Chinese government officials
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to more effectively address the ongoing challenges of China's national reforms.
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Some of the people that they lectured include individuals from the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps,
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which was actually sanctioned by the Trump administration for human rights abuses
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and their efforts to essentially repress the Uyghurs in Xinjiang.
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Despite that, the same Ash Center that, like I said, is now training Democrat protesters
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was busy lecturing and even bringing Chinese Communist Party officials into meetings
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with State Department officials, members of Congress, and the FDA.
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Yeah, Natalie, it's just almost too overwhelming for the average American to take in.
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And so give us, you know, who's at the top of this?
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This obviously puts Harvard in a terrible spot.
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The stuff you're pointing out, this is probably just the tip of the iceberg, like you always say.
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Is Harvard, you know, actually furthering the causes of the Chinese CCP?
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It really does appear that they're in this ideologically with a bunch of those Grant
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foundations, some of the CIA cutouts you mentioned, and that there is an ideological
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war going on against the United States of America.
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And I think they like to play a similar game that they did with the origins of COVID,
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right, whereby the Chinese Communist Party, their globalist counterparts,
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will delete the evidence, erase the evidence, or make it so we can't see said evidence
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that COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, or that the disease or the vaccines
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And then they say, oh, well, you're conspiracy theorists because you can't produce the documents
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But with what we're able to discern, it's extremely, extremely concerning.
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And I want to really, I think, make this person, although I won't say person, I won't bend
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the knee and use the pronouns, this woman, I think I don't even know, but Erica Chenoweth.
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But this is someone who I think it's really important to understand sort of where she comes
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Her entire CV is really about analyzing not what is morally, ethically, or politically just,
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but what is justified by any means necessary to achieve not political change or, you know,
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Okay, this individual has written about toppling dictators.
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She has written, I'll read you the stuff she's written, quote, the role of violence and nonviolent
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resistance, resilient republics, why terrorism does not destroy democracy, the study of terrorism,
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achievements and analytical challenges ahead, to bribe or to bomb, do corruption and terrorism
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go together, even lecturing on an event titled, is terrorism ever legitimate?
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And I think the most, I would say, telling piece of work that this individual has, which
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really fits in with this whole color revolution paradigm that we've been hammering here in
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the war room since even before this election, is a piece of work called Why Civil Resistance
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Works, the strategic logic of nonviolent conflict.
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Her team compared over 200 violent revolutions and 100 nonviolent campaigns, demonstrations,
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and came to the conclusion that at least through their metrics, nonviolent demonstrations were
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Now, the buried lead in that is that they're studying tactics that are violent, and this
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individual is studying tactics and how terrorism can be achieved to achieve political goals.
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And I think it's really just important to stress, and you can't be overstated enough, right?
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This whole resistance lab that's being propped up, this is not coming from the far, far left,
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you know, Democrat Socialist of America, niche left-wing activists.
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This is mainstream Democrat resistance, and we are on the precipice.
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I spend most of my days, sadly, watching this stuff.
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I have never seen these people be both so desperate, but also so violent and so willing
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And like I said this morning, what they're doing to the Teslas, at the end of the day,
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They just know that luckily we have a DOJ that's actually going to prosecute them.
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But make no mistake, they're coming for you next.
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Yeah, so Natalie, I saw on that list some other, you know, very prominent names of,
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you know, Bloomberg corporate figures, very wealthy individual figures.
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These wealthy individuals, these foundations are funding Harvard.
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What's President Trump going to be doing on this front in higher ed to bring this nightmare
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Because, I mean, we've known, like, in philosophy, there's deconstruction.
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But now you say, now it's become institutional.
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This is one of the most revered schools in the country at Harvard.
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And now seeping into the leftist Democrats, who are full-on deconstructionists, right?
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They, I hate to say it, but there are some of them that just obviously hate the country.
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They hate God and family and country and all the fabric of American life.
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What should Congress and the Senate be doing immediately?
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And so many of those philanthropic entities, I'm being euphemistic in my characterizations.
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I think the most telling sort of split screen was during the DNC, right, where you had the
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And then you had the members of Congress and elected officials and whatnot, the rank-and-file
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Democratic Party inside, for once in their life, embracing the American flag.
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But the funny part is, or I guess the sad part, is that both of those entities are funded
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And most of them are what's on your screen right now, right?
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Whether it's the Tides Foundation, the Open Society Foundation, Bloom, Rockefeller, probably
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the Chinese Communist Party, and the State Department.
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It's really just a sliding scale of who in the Democratic Party is more compelled or convinced
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in their sort of performative drag show act of pretending like they don't hate this country.
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President Trump is obviously embarking, I think, on his sort of next crusade to go after
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the funding of these super radical, radical left-wing institutions.
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But I think stories like these are important because we shouldn't just be defunding these
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institutions because what is going on with the whole Israel-Hamas thing?
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Surely that's part of it, but that's tangential from this America First perspective.
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The foremost leading organization that is curating Democrat-Congress-sponsored resistance protests
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and violent demonstrations against you that are probably open to using terrorism to get
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It's the United States Agency for International Development and a host of other government-linked
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And, you know, the irony is this is happening at the most elite institutions.
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The Chinese, the CCP, are very intelligent with their targeting.
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They know the top schools that produce the leaders in this country.
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Not only the linkages Natalie has shown, but training in the faculty and then training in
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all the students that are flowing out of these schools.
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This is the mindset that is coming out of these Ivies.
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The Harvards, the Yales, the Princetons, the Berkeleys, the Michigans, the Madisons.
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Natalie, do you want to stick after the break or you got to hit it?
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You know, it's like I'm so glad Steve is not back in prison.
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It's always an honor to do this show with you on better terms.
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All right, Natalie, we'll keep you over the break.
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We got some economics on the tariffs coming up.
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Dave Brat sitting in with great Stephen K. Bannon.
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And Natalie Winters is sticking around with us.
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There is a lot of attention on the White House press corps right now.
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The War Room's lucky to have Natalie and her team right in the perimeter.
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And so, Natalie, one of the things that bugs me is the mainstream media.
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Their refusal to cover the main issues of the Trump agenda, right?
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There's no mainstream coverage of the border invasion, of the massive debt, the inflation, the weakness of the economy.
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Now they're saying the weakness of the economy all goes on Trump, right, like four weeks in.
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The War Room, you, Steve, everyone's been right on all these issues.
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And so give us a peek behind the window as you go into the White House with the correspondence.
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Are we going to finally get the information out to the American people?
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Well, sure, I mean, every day braving the smugness and pseudo-intellectualism of the class of people who have done more damage to this country than maybe the Democrat Party,
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though I guess they're really just an appendage of that whole institution.
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I hate the fact that they're even technically my colleagues.
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But all that aside, I mean, I think why I'm there, why it's so important, obviously Democrats lost all institutional power.
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Their efforts to wage the color revolution, it can't come from impeaching him in the House for now, which is why you've got to make sure you go and vote today.
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But more importantly, the media is sort of ground zero, right, for waging this information warfare and being in there, eavesdropping, hearing the conversations.
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I mean, it's just a complete animosity for the average American worker.
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They think that people would have compassion for illegal aliens who, like, may or may not be a part of MS-13.
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If there's any question about whether or not you engaged in human trafficking, maybe you shouldn't be in this country to begin with.
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I would just put that on the front door of the Atlantic magazine's headquarters because apparently they like to depict MS-13 members as father of the years down in, or I guess up in Maryland.
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But all that aside, I think what the White House is doing to rid that institution, that building of some of its worst offenders is absolutely wonderful.
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Love the lawsuit that AP is currently duking it out over the Gulf of America.
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But to that point, obviously just my presence in there, I think, triggers that, which I take great pride in.
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But more precisely, right, the efforts to redo the seating chart are sort of the latest, I think, front in the war against the White House Correspondents Association.
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With a lot of these legacy media people who, I guess, don't quite know how to read or understand charts or numbers because I don't think they quite know that they're actually doing significantly less views and inferior in terms of viewership than most of the people who are likely going to actually take their seats.
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The White House Correspondents Association is already pledging or potentially planning to hold some sort of sit-in.
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In other words, if their seats are stripped from them, they might not actually get up and relinquish said seats.
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I think that we should call the same people, what was it, from Doge, who raided the United States Institute of Peace and have them remove the White House Correspondents Association from their seats that they will hopefully soon no longer belong in.
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This is about democratizing, and yes, I use that word intentionally to troll MSNBC, the flow of media.
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You don't get to have open shots on goal against the Trump administration time after time to try to smear him for what?
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His original sin, his cardinal sin of trying to secure the southern border?
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These people are despicable, and the fact that they think dunking on the Trump administration comes in the form of saying, oh, well, the multimillion-dollar contract that you supported stripping for transgender musicals in Columbia, it actually came from the State Department and not USAID.
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Back when I was in Congress, I had no recourse, right?
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When I lost to a Democrat, the Democrat made the announcement plan in the Atlantic, which is a CIA cutout, and my opponent was from the CIA.
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So I've since learned about all this from you and the other great people in intelligence.
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And so back when I was in, you would just see the lead story would be generated.
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Sometimes it was locally, and then it would go up and bounce off the Washington Post and then make its way around the country.
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And then other times, the Washington Post and the New York Times would take the lead, and it would trickle down to your locals.
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And we didn't have a bullhorn until Trump came along.
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Then all of a sudden, right, back then, Paul Ryan, the Republican leadership, they wouldn't support us.
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Does the AP still try to kind of lead and trickle down the news to the other biggies, the New York Times, Washington Post?
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They're still using the same exact talking points.
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So just give us a brief overview, and then we'll go to Rich Stern and do a little economics.
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Well, I think just like there's sort of a diversity of right-wing outlets, and I think the war room sort of has a comparative advantage in arming our listeners with actual action-oriented tasks, right?
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Where you have agency, you can actually use something to change it.
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I think a lot of these sort of older, more establishment left-wing media outlets are sort of still playing in the ideological frame.
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But I think the ones that we focus on, it's why we play MSNBC.
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Those are not bringing knives to a gunfight, but bringing tanks to a gunfight, which is information warfare, right?
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And when you watch Rachel Maddow, when you watch shows like that, you can see that she starts her show 20 minutes every night with extensive, extensive coverage, live footage of protest after protest after protest,
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trying to create this sort of astroturfed idea that the American people are in such staunch opposition to what President Trump is doing.
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And like we saw last night, having on a member of Congress essentially calling for like pseudo-violent terrorism in the streets, predictive programming at best, an outright call to violence.
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And I point people to, I think Steve and I are going to get into it tomorrow,
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but MSNBC on Sunday had a scholar who used to work for the CIA in the January 6th committee, so that shows you her repertoire, her resume.
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But they did a whole, you know, 20-minute segment where this individual is essentially alleging that a civil war is going to start in the United States of America
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because, I didn't quite get the logic train, but essentially Donald Trump is an autocrat
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and what we're doing to this country is so reprehensible that it would be morally justified for Democrats to sort of rebel.
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So this is what we're talking about, which I think goes back to the story we were talking about earlier, right?
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There are left-wing media outlets, much like there are right-wing media outlets,
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who like to be performative or sort of controlled opposition,
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are okay with the strongly worded letters and the strongly worded tweets.
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Then there are outlets, like I think you see the Atlantic, MSNBC, certain hosts on that network,
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really toying around, and I'm speaking metaphorically,
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but with can only be described as the raw materials for kinetic political revolution, right?
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And that's sort of the, I think, not diminishing returns, but if anything, the inverse of that,
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which is the only expanded returns, that of all the smears that they hurled against President Trump of the campaign,
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painting him as a dictator, as an autocrat, as an authoritarian,
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that is giving their audience, giving, I don't know, would-be Trump assassins,
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the moral, political, and ethical justification and cover to engage in outside-the-system tactics,
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You could essentially justify assassination under the frameworks that they've put forward
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with the way that they smear President Trump, right?
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But it's about double standards, and they just don't care, and I would leave it at this, right?
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The same people who are apoplectic, apoplectic,
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over President Trump wanting to take back or take over the Panama Canal,
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the G-I-U-K gap in Greenland, going after the Houthis,
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or putting tariffs on the Chinese Communist Party.
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Did any of those media outlets ever lose it when the Chinese Communist Party
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deployed, what was it, a multi-year, multi-decade little thing called the Belt and Road Initiative,
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where they were trying to take over the entire world currency, ports, infrastructure?
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But President Trump talks about Canada, and it's as if he's committed a mortal sin.
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So these people don't care about the United States of America.
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They are running dogs for a global elite, epitomized by the United Nations,
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the World Economic Forum, George Soros, and poor me that I have to deal with them every day.
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I do it for the audience, but these people do not love this country.
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It is quite apparent in their questions, their actions, and they're the scum of the earth, truly.
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Natalie Winters, full circle, starts CCP, China, Harvard, Keynesians, big government folks.
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Irony of ironies, President Trump is trying to take apart the regime, right?
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He's not the one that's setting up a big government.
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He's tearing it down and bringing it back to the founding principles and the founding virtue,
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among which the chief one is liberty and freedom.
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Natalie, thanks for the great overview, what's going on with the CCP, Harvard, and in our media.
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We're going to go to Rich Stern with Heritage Foundation.
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I'm not sure if we've got him up video yet or if he's just with us by radio, by phone.
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But why don't you give us your bottom line on what you think is coming from President Trump in the next couple days and your reaction to it.
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So, look, we have two big things that are coming up tomorrow.
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President Trump intends these to design to defend the U.S. auto industries.
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And, of course, they're going to be imposed on foreign-made autos.
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But we do have to be a little careful because they're also going to be levied on car parts that come into the U.S., even ones that go into U.S. car factories that assemble cars.
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So, again, this is part of his overall negotiation on statecraft to get these other countries to reduce their barriers where it comes to cars and autos.
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So, of course, these are the tariffs that Trump is going to impose to match the trade barriers that these other countries do.
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And let's keep in mind, these countries will impose –
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Richard, we're going to be right back with you in three seconds.
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All right, back in the War Room, Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
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All political views are my own, but Natalie Winters hit it out of the park.
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Now we've got Rich Stern with us from Heritage Foundation, their economic policy expert.
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Keep going on that intro, and then we'll get into some meat and potatoes.
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So the important thing about the reciprocal tariffs is that, as we were talking about,
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all of these other countries we deal with impose quotas and tariff barriers.
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They regulate and make it hard for our producers to send things there.
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And at the same time, you know what they will do?
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They will subsidize their producers so that they can dump products on our markets through
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So what Trump is talking about here is using a strategy of meeting their tariffs or our
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tariffs, reciprocal tariffs, to encourage them, to holding a mirror up to them to say,
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well, look at the trade barriers you've imposed and encourage them to get rid of those trade
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It's also about making sure that they decouple from China the way that we are, that they
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And again, for some of these countries in particular, that they stop facilitating Chinese
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fentanyl and other drugs and terrorists coming across the U.S. border.
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Now, no one knows the exact details on what the reciprocal tariffs are going to look like,
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And those are the sort of things that Trump is intending to use them for to negotiate for
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wins for the American public and the American economy.
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Denver, if you want to put up the first one, Lighthizer was on the Tucker show the other
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day, Rich, and you made some, you know, just great points.
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We're not talking about, you know, a few little tariffs against the U.S.
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and about, you know, some little trade deficits.
00:31:37.840
The graph on the left I'm showing, Rich, has trade deficits going up and up and up with
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Now, huge trade deficits with the rest of the world.
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And then on the far right of that graph, you see under Trump 1, you see Trump making some
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inroads against China on the size of the deficit.
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But basically, Rich, why don't you just comment on that?
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The size of the trade deficits, they're growing up and up and up by the year.
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The chart, you can put that chart up right there, Denver.
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It shows we have trade deficits with every country under the sun, and they're major.
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And so, Rich, why don't you just, what's the consequences of that over time?
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Lighthizer said manufacturing, if you lose manufacturing, you also lose all the nice properties of research
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and development, innovation, the entrepreneurial spirit, you know, not to mention your inner cities.
00:32:40.840
So what's the, you know, in economics, you know, getting consumer goods and exchange back
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and forth as they teach you, it's kind of good.
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But what's the upshot of having huge deficits forever?
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Well, and to your point on that, the story of the U.S.'s trade deficit is the story of the
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destruction of the U.S. economy, of our entrepreneurialism, of our access to capital to build for our
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futures, and, of course, yes, the gutting of our manufacturing base.
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Now, what I would say is this is a story that begins with liberals in D.C. trying to destroy
00:33:16.240
our manufacturing base. The EPA declared war on our manufacturers and miners long before China did.
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But, of course, China and a lot of these other countries piled on top using their own currency
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manipulation, dumping all these other sorts of things to get in there and double down on the
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regulatory burdens of the leftist state within the U.S. to destroy our manufacturing.
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So that trade deficit is also representative of this loss of jobs and communities and all of
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these things that have been done both by the U.S. government itself and by foreign governments,
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global elites in both places that have put their aims square on and against American workers and
00:34:02.420
families and communities. Now, as you brought up, part of why Trump was able to counter some of this
00:34:07.260
is he cut taxes for U.S. producers. He cut regulatory burden. He allowed American businesses
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and inventors and entrepreneurs to invent, to get back to doing what made America the greatest country
00:34:19.860
in the first place, which was to be the brain trust of the world, the place where everything
00:34:24.300
was not just invented but manufactured. And if we compare what Trump is doing right now to deal with
00:34:31.780
these foreign barriers, we've also dismantling the deep state here and deregulation and tax cuts,
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then we can, in fact, have that renaissance and get back to an America that is the laboratory and the
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Yep, I know. We've got to get back to it. Rich, let me ask you one more question. I'm going to go to the
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border, which is also related. I mean, it's just a disaster. Thank God we've got a window here to get
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things right. Denver, if you want to put up the next chart. So we covered the magnitude of the
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deficits. They're growing massively. They're with every country on the earth. And then Lighthizer's
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point number two, this chart, I hope President Trump hauls this thing out. It's a graph we're
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looking at, Rich. It's got tariff barriers and non-tariff barriers and the G20, the richest countries.
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And at the very bottom, the most free trade country is the USA, right? So it's kind of stunning. I'm
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dying to hear the Wall Street Journal respond to this type of chart or the Economist or Jamie
00:35:38.000
Diamond or the major bankers who are all sharing mainstream media talking points. It's just
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outrageous what they're doing. This chart has Canada, Mexico, China, all the rest of the countries
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above us. Two to three hundred percent double, triple the size of our tariff and non-tariff barriers.
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And so it's a little ironic that the free trade folks should be on board here to level the playing
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field. Rich, just a minute or two. What do you have to say about the magnitude of these tariff and
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non-tariff barriers being leveled against us and just trying to set the level playing field?
00:36:13.180
Well, I'm shocked that these globalist elite bankers you're talking about haven't pointed
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out these things, right? But I think that hits the nail right on the head there. And you have
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to remember the history of this, of course, is that coming out of World War II, the U.S. had
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something like half of all of the goods production on the entire planet and 70 percent of the oil
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production, virtually all of the car production, et cetera. And so what happened was the U.S. government,
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as a geopolitical matter, negotiated with these countries to allow them to have high tariff rates
00:36:52.480
so that they could overtly take advantage of the wealth of America to, quote, rebuild. This is
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something that wasn't good for American workers or factories then. These are things that were
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negotiated, frankly, by anti-family, anti-worker, anti-manufacturing, leftist governments in the
00:37:12.260
United States. And in the decades that have since, we have not opened the hood and renegotiated this.
00:37:18.140
We have allowed these countries to have their own unique rules, to impose trade barriers,
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to never have to come to terms with that. And so finally, you have a U.S. president who's coming
00:37:28.700
to the table saying enough is enough. You got it. You got it. Yep. Rich, I'm going to come back to
00:37:36.320
you with just kind of the moral question. The U.S. has always tried to be the good guy for the whole
00:37:42.160
world. We get rolled. Now we're talking to our friends, the EU, the Europeans, the Mexicans,
00:37:48.040
the Canadians. We're saying, come on, folks, you know, let's get it straight. You know, you're not
00:37:51.760
being fair. I'm going to come back to you with a moral piece. But right now, we're going to go to the
00:37:56.140
border to Ben Burquam and Oscar Ramirez and talk about a moral story pulling at the heartstrings.
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Guys, tee us up with the latest reporting. It's just awful. And we've got to get this right.
00:38:12.680
Thanks for doing what you guys do. Yeah, no, it's great to be with you, Dave. We're actually a little
00:38:17.660
off the border in Sinaloa in cartel country of El Chapo's hometown. And now that you've got the
00:38:25.840
warring factions between the Chapitos and the El Mayo crew and all these guys, and it's just
00:38:31.660
death and destruction everywhere. The bottom line, Dave, is what's shocking to me is as we were driving
00:38:36.940
back to our hotel yesterday, there was a kidnapping that took place on the road we were driving on.
00:38:42.060
We drove past it just minutes later, and there was no response. There was no police response. There
00:38:45.960
was nobody there to pick it up and say, hey, something bad happened here. Basically, the people
00:38:51.060
live with Stockholm syndrome down here, and they've become accustomed to this. But the reason we're
00:38:55.980
out here, I just want to set the stage. The governor of Sinaloa is actually hiding in that
00:38:59.760
building because he's afraid of the cartels. He's living in the governor's mansion, the palace behind
00:39:05.480
us. But the citizens of Sinaloa have to live with the violence. And that's the reality. The elites
00:39:11.500
stay above, they get protected, while the citizens, the people get screwed.
00:39:15.200
Yeah, Oscar, you want to throw anything else in there?
00:39:21.260
Well, the insecurity factor, this is really important for the United States of America,
00:39:25.480
because the cartel has infiltrated now into the United States of America. And we have to show
00:39:30.480
that we have to show the epicenter of insecurity, which is happening on this cartel war between
00:39:35.260
Los Chapitos and Los Mayitos, which adjusts statistically, Dave, on the year of 2024, more than 1,082
00:39:41.840
murders, just on homicides and killings due to the cartel. And more than 1,600 people were missing
00:39:48.320
also in the year of 2024, impunity. Not even one case was resolved. We're trying to show this to the
00:39:54.980
American people to stop this and to basically secure the border and to attack this and to
00:40:00.140
label the cartels as terrorists as they need to be labeled immediately by the Mexican government.
00:40:06.360
The takeaway on all this is none of this is going to change until the politicians that are involved
00:40:11.120
with the cartels and the media that's involved with the cartels and the activist groups that
00:40:15.140
are involved with the cartels are all held accountable. We need arrest in every level of
00:40:20.500
government in Mexico. And we need the same thing in America. Everybody who allowed the invasion
00:40:24.620
into America needs to be arrested and held accountable. And the same thing needs to happen
00:40:28.880
down here or else it's just going to be a repeating cycle where you pick a new head.
00:40:33.100
In this case, where the president of Mexico is protecting El Mayo, you position him in position
00:40:38.080
to take power. And then you have the same problem over and over and over again.
00:40:42.760
Yeah. Outstanding guys. I got I want to push a little bit on this moral thing. As an economist,
00:40:50.780
our job is to explain the full costs and benefits of a policy. Right. So when it comes to the border
00:40:56.800
invasion policy of the Biden administration, all political views are my own. The cost I'd love for
00:41:04.340
the economists to try to grapple with the cost of that little kid that was just kidnapped.
00:41:09.680
What's the cost? What's the cost of all the hundred thousand dead from fentanyl? What's the cost of
00:41:15.520
rapes and abuse of little girls and boys? And it's just it's just grotesque morally. And then on top of
00:41:23.520
that, that's their charge. That's their job. They know what their job is. Then you have the mainstream
00:41:28.160
media and the leftists. And Natalie was just on reporting at the infiltration of the CCP funding
00:41:33.560
Harvard and the Kennedy School. Right. And so you're right. It's the politicians. But, you know,
00:41:39.580
we hate to put it on the war room always. But it's on the people. Right. The people keep putting in
00:41:44.980
congressmen and women and senators who just do not seem to have the moral backbone necessary for a
00:41:52.120
fight. But one minute in closing, guys. Thanks. Thank you for having the moral courage to do what you
00:41:56.580
do. Close us out here in a minute or so, guys. Yeah. The cost benefit. You look at what's happening
00:42:03.240
down here. You've got a country that lives with Stockholm syndrome. You've got people that are
00:42:06.780
screwed in between that. And you got these these these people pretending that there's a value to
00:42:11.200
this when the cartels are making billions of dollars. The reality is that the sad thing is
00:42:15.440
you drive across the city and you see the opportunity that could be here. You see these
00:42:18.960
businesses that could be in business that are all shut down now because of the violence that comes
00:42:23.220
along with it. The same thing happens in America. You are replacing good value with bad value.
00:42:28.060
And that's what you have. You have evil value being replaced where good value should be.
00:42:33.220
That's the bottom line. The Biden administration did to Central America and South America is
00:42:38.700
irreparable. The cartel, because of these open border policies, have grown twice as bigger in
00:42:43.460
economy, territory, financially, technology. So this gives them a lot of power. And it is another
00:42:49.040
stepping stone for the Trump administration to fight this. We need consequences. That's the first
00:42:55.080
thing that needs to happen to these dirty politicians that they're absolutely this is
00:42:58.840
not a speculation or creating hysteria. It is a reality. These politicians were receiving
00:43:03.520
enlisted money by, you know, cartel campaign. So that needs to be fixed. Right. It's always the
00:43:09.380
money. Thank you, gentlemen. As Natalie, you start seeing why the media and why the economists
00:43:16.100
won't cover this because they're funded by all everybody on that list that Natalie showed you.
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Welcome back to the war room. Dave Bratt sitting in with our great Stephen K. Bannon. Today,
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we have Rich Stern from the Heritage Foundation, our economic policy expert. We've been covering the
00:45:00.960
Trump tariffs. No media attention to both sides of this issue. There's just one side. They're just
00:45:10.240
trying to show the economy's in disarray. In 30 days, the economy went from growth to disaster,
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according to the mainstream media. And so, Rich, in economics, sometimes it's what you don't see.
00:45:23.500
How did we lose our cities? What's the true moral story? The economy matters to President Trump,
00:45:29.620
I think, more than the stock market. The rich own the stock market. The rich 10% own 90% of stocks,
00:45:36.340
bonds, pensions, and the middle class constantly gets left behind. So how do you close this out
00:45:42.320
on trade? What's the moral case here that needs to be made, Rich Stern? I think you're exactly right
00:45:48.300
about Trump's priorities, which is that, yes, the stock market is merely a capture of different price
00:45:54.500
signals, and it's a future-looking device. But that isn't the economy. You're right. The economy
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is where you go to work, where you get the goods and services from that you need for you, for your
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family, the roof over your head and how it got there. And it's exactly the point about economics.
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You can always point to something that exists, but it's hard to point to something that could have
00:46:16.440
been, that was denied the chance to come into existence. And you can't easily point to a place
00:46:22.440
that was thriving 50 years ago and isn't now. And the truth is, through this story we have talked
00:46:29.460
about, through foreign government coercion, through our own government's incompetence and
00:46:34.320
maliciousness, they have come together to deny many Americans a shot of prosperity. There are
00:46:40.760
thousands of towns across America that are in despair, that have lost their vitality and their
00:46:45.780
livelihood, and it is because of this nexus. And so while some people will point to some market
00:46:52.000
jitters as a problem with what's going on with Trump, the other way to look at it is there's
00:46:57.080
thousands of towns, there's tens of millions of workers who now can have a shot of prosperity
00:47:02.020
because of what Trump is trying to do for them.
00:47:04.920
Yep. Spot on. Rich Stern, Heritage Foundation, Economic Policy. Great job, Rich. Thanks for being
00:47:11.720
with us on the War Room. Always a pleasure. Thanks for having me on. All right, folks,
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Great to be with you, Dave. Thanks for all your leadership.
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