Bannon's War Room - April 09, 2025


Episode 4398: Making Coal Workers Great Again; Senate Finance Committee Hammers Greer


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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Senator Cory Booker (D-N.J.) joins us to discuss the new tariffs that President Trump is slapping on China and the implications for the economy and the rest of the world.

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00:00:00.000 fan of of eric show back in those days and today eric when you went from the oval down that small
00:00:05.120 hallway to that's the little dining room at the end you passed what we turned into a reading room
00:00:09.900 that's the monica lewinski memorial memorial bill clinton's side office that that we did we we
00:00:17.040 hadn't had an exorcism yet so nobody i was afraid riots and everybody were afraid to go in there
00:00:21.780 but that's the monica that little reading room is the monica lewinski memorial yeah don't don't
00:00:26.000 touch anything you were there sir don't touch the desk all right see we'll let we'll give it to
00:00:31.640 you brother i would love to do your uh your idea at some point man take it away eric no i'm gonna
00:00:36.540 i'll text you after the show i love the gulf of america idea got it okay oh by the way gulf of
00:00:42.880 america which was named by uh i think that it came up with kevin bosovic right jack bosovic's brother
00:00:48.540 at least kevin bosovic claims that the gulf of america i love it we have an interesting cold
00:00:53.420 open uh our camera crew is getting relocated from the east room natalie's going to open the show
00:00:58.480 let's go ahead and play the cold open let's go ahead let her rip there is a trade we already have 1.00
00:01:03.680 a free trade agreement we have a trade surplus so getting the least bad why did they get whacked in
00:01:10.220 the first place we're addressing the 1.2 trillion dollar deficit the largest in human history that
00:01:15.400 president biden left us with we should be running up the score in australia answer the question on
00:01:20.360 australia they ban have a trade surplus with australia we have a free trade agreement why they
00:01:27.220 are incredibly important national security partner why were they whacked with a tariff
00:01:32.160 senator despite the agreement they ban our beef they ban our pork they're getting ready to impose
00:01:37.500 measures with your greek letter formula the fact that we have a trade surplus
00:01:42.960 we have a global tariff on every we're trying to address the 1.2 trillion dollar i think that
00:01:48.520 biden left us i think that answer sir you're a much smarter person than that answer the idea that
00:01:56.140 we are going to whack friend and foe alike and particularly friends with this level is both
00:02:03.460 i think insulting the australians undermines our national security and frankly makes us not a good
00:02:09.480 partner going forward the lack of trust from friends and allies based upon this ridiculous policy
00:02:16.820 that goes into full effect at midnight tonight is extraordinary if 700 000 americans lose their
00:02:25.100 jobs will the trump administration suspend these tariffs senator i think the the economists who are
00:02:33.320 making these projections who often are are in favor of fully unfettered free trade are the same ones
00:02:38.400 you said in the first trump term mr mr career let me just stop you there i'm not asking about
00:02:43.700 projections i'm asking if the numbers show that 700 000 people have lost their jobs because of these
00:02:53.580 new tariffs that trump has slapped on will the administration reverse course and lift those
00:03:00.300 tariffs senator that's not going to happen we've lost five million manufacturing jobs over the years
00:03:04.800 which is the number i'm most worried about and we have to get those jobs so i take that as a note let me try
00:03:09.920 another one moody says that if the trump tariffs remain in place we will definitely plunge into a recession
00:03:17.240 which will ultimately cost three and a half million americans their jobs so ambassador greer
00:03:25.140 if trump's tariffs push three and a half million people out of work will the trump administration
00:03:33.920 reverse course and lift those tariffs senator the wall street analysts are wrong they never want to
00:03:39.000 have any kind of change to the status quo but that's who you're quoting to me a number if trump
00:03:45.000 tariffs push workers out of their jobs and raise prices as fed chair powell has predicted will you
00:03:54.480 reverse course then i think also with respect to to chairman powell who i don't know personally but i know
00:04:01.140 the president makes decisions on trade and he rarely takes advice from from chairman powell on this we
00:04:05.500 found in trump one that you could put tariffs on china and you could make it work and have lower income
00:04:09.640 so sorry uh lower unemployment lower in inflation and increase real median household income over time
00:04:15.740 as we reshore and that's what we have to do senator what i'm hearing you say is that no one can hear
00:04:20.100 a rhyme or reason to why the tariffs are off again on again off again on again but what you're telling us
00:04:26.780 is the fact that hundreds of thousands even millions of people could lose their jobs
00:04:31.580 and that prices could go up will not be a factor for you or for donald trump for rolling those tariffs
00:04:39.840 back we just had liberation day but many americans are concerned that prices are going to go up and
00:04:48.160 americans okay stop this is just the the the only reason people have any concern at all
00:04:52.420 is because the running dog for the capitalists on wall street in the lords of easy money media
00:04:58.400 continues to go on with this false narrative that prices are going up stock market is going to crash
00:05:03.020 everything's going to happen over and over and over again without looking at any evidence we put
00:05:07.240 some of the strictest tariffs ever on china in 17 and 18 and uh and prices didn't go up at all
00:05:14.160 on chinese product this is just a false another false narrative put out by the media it's the same as
00:05:20.640 all the lies they told about the pandemic all the lies they told about the ukraine all the lies 0.92
00:05:24.980 they told about the soul election i could go on on and on and on the only people worked up but did
00:05:29.720 the market crash today no did not you have a sorting out of things i didn't say it was not going to be
00:05:35.620 any turbulence didn't have any crash didn't have gold blow through the roof nothing that was
00:05:40.700 prophesized yesterday and look trump went hard he's and it shows you i think to the world he's not
00:05:50.620 a maximalist i was always for the reciprocity but the reciprocity has a maximalist side we just go and
00:05:56.400 match whatever your analysis shows he was also thinking there was tension around with president
00:06:01.320 trump to just do tiered at 20 he did do reciprocity which i thought was very important to show the
00:06:06.640 american people how people have abused the united states of america and american companies
00:06:12.300 president trump said uh mr gria that he had no choice in terms of canada and i live 50 miles away
00:06:20.040 from the canadian border he had no choice but to bypass congress and to impose an emergency 25
00:06:25.780 tariff on canada to stop quote the massive end quote amount of fentanyl and quote the millions and
00:06:33.440 millions of undocumented immigrants coming from the northern border uh unfortunately that's a lie
00:06:39.720 uh the truth is that the u.s customs and border protection reported just 43 pounds of fentanyl was
00:06:47.040 seized at the canadian border last year representing just two-tenths of one percent of the total further
00:06:53.320 he said among uh he talked about millions and millions of undocumented immigrants coming from
00:06:59.560 canada in fact last year there were 24 000 people not millions of millions first question really we can
00:07:05.760 argue about tariffs but why does the president have to lie all of the time in order to make his point
00:07:11.840 so senator i i would i would just refute that when the president is talking about the nature of the
00:07:18.620 emergency we have i mean this is very serious certainly uh senator i i would just say you know
00:07:24.000 i think you need to look at at what the president issued in terms of the order for the legal basis for
00:07:28.680 for what we're doing right i mean the president very rightly hit on this issue of fentanyl migration
00:07:33.260 coming from northern southern borders and it's a real emergency all drugs are a real emergency two-tenths
00:07:38.700 of one percent you can then argue drugs illegal drugs come from every country in the world if
00:07:43.960 you declare that as an emergency you're giving the president of the united states unbelievable power
00:07:48.540 the democrats green news scam killed jobs and sent prices soaring here in america but meanwhile china
00:07:55.100 opened two coal plants every single week and other countries likewise went very strongly back into
00:08:02.760 coal some of them never got off those are the ones that didn't have the problems
00:08:07.100 the biden energy policy was to put america last we want to be last we got to be last not a good
00:08:13.560 policy under my administration we're putting america first it's very simple america is always going
00:08:19.000 to be first on my first day in office i terminated the green news scam i declared the national energy
00:08:25.960 emergency and withdrew from the unfair one-sided and extremely costly to the united states only paris
00:08:32.040 this scenario the decision maker who decided the ala prima approach who has obviously had to have
00:08:46.640 spent time anticipating what we saw in the markets and some of the pushback i'm assuming this all got
00:08:52.740 gamed out uh because because it's a novel approach it needed to be thought out whose throat do i get to
00:08:58.540 choke if this proves to be wrong well senator you can certainly always talk to me but are you at the
00:09:04.400 tip of the spear well i'm at the tip of the spear for certainly did you propose the ala prima approach
00:09:09.480 so i first of all i would push back senator just a little bit on this uh we've for now we've excluded
00:09:14.760 pharmaceuticals and semiconductors okay well that's good let's make it and we've excluded us so it just
00:09:19.980 seems like i'm getting i'm getting my head around the ala prima approach i'm not condemning it because
00:09:24.540 i'm not a trade expert but i still at some point and i understand that you are the trade rep so if
00:09:30.200 you own this decision then i'll look to you to figure out if we're going to be successful
00:09:34.260 if you don't on the decision i'm just trying to figure out whose throat i get to choke if it's wrong
00:09:39.800 and who i put up on a platform and thank them for the novel approach that was successful if they're
00:09:45.880 right this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval
00:09:57.140 on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people
00:10:03.800 have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the
00:10:07.880 world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like
00:10:11.480 that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a
00:10:19.720 conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
00:10:27.500 this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:10:34.260 it's tuesday 8 april year of our lord 2025 a wild day on uh markets throughout the uh world market
00:10:46.520 finished up a little bit down today at the end um uh gold had a slight down movement 10-year treasury
00:10:53.800 slight uptick um kind of a mixed day on uh on wall street uh but not the catastrophe that the left is
00:11:01.140 trying to push us into of course president trump going full energy full spectrum energy dominance
00:11:07.620 there with clean coal also a lot of stuff coming out of the supreme court so on the battlefronts of
00:11:13.640 trump's second term uh we're engaged on everything mike davis is at the white house right now i believe he
00:11:21.060 may even be talking to the president or to the staff and he's going to come and join us in a little
00:11:24.480 while i want to go to natalie winters natalie first off you followed this for a long time particularly
00:11:28.700 the chinese communist party taking it on the chops at midnight tonight ma'am uh 104 percent
00:11:35.800 tariff kicks in she and the chinese are not too are not too happy about that your thoughts
00:11:40.980 well a wonderful america first day here at the white house i think we're going to have some of
00:11:46.940 the co-workers who are just on stage with president trump joining us shortly but you're so right to
00:11:51.880 frame it this way this is an absolutely horrific day for the chinese communist party and i don't know 0.73
00:11:57.200 about you steve but i don't even think that we have to cite chapter and verse war room or any of
00:12:01.480 the reporting that i've done for years i think we should cite what is it probably all the neocons up
00:12:06.500 on capitol hill who love to use the china threat right to justify the ever expanding and ballooning 0.99
00:12:12.240 trillion dollar defense budget or maybe the democrats who say that the reason that we have to continue
00:12:17.020 hemorrhaging what is it hundreds of billions of dollars to ukraine is so we can you know defend against
00:12:22.660 the chinese communist party by extension well those people i think have made the case as to why we need
00:12:28.280 to have these tariffs why we need to reorient the entire global manufacturing and trade system and i
00:12:34.500 think that the white house has effectively been pushing back this idea that oh well why are we putting
00:12:40.200 tariffs on you know islands with penguins well are these people really that dumb or just not students
00:12:45.800 of history to understand the entirety of the belt and road initiative initiative the 140 plus countries
00:12:52.800 that the chinese communist party has either signed memorandums of understanding with or straight up
00:12:57.800 deals with to essentially own their infrastructure own their manufacturing sectors which you know is
00:13:03.800 exactly how they skirted sort of the phase one deal it's why it was sort of watered down right
00:13:08.280 they just outsourced their manufacturing to vietnam and to mexico that's why these tariffs
00:13:14.340 are so essential and by the way steve and i'm sure the audience knows all too well it's the same
00:13:19.360 people who are apoplectic over what is it we can spend trillions of tax dollars in usa id global
00:13:27.300 government globalist institutions but i guess a few days of now what we're seeing not really all that
00:13:33.280 bad stock market losses this is the first day where a sitting president put america's working class
00:13:38.960 first over the heavily invested wall street elite and it's a glorious day to be standing here at the
00:13:45.340 white house and to be able to say that and bring that to you it's a glorious day natalie hang on we'll
00:13:51.240 take a short commercial break i'm gonna ask you and once you're answering the other side the democrats
00:13:55.980 say particularly people say they're populists like uh focahannas elizabeth warren and bernie sanders
00:14:02.260 the faux populists they were absolutely trying to tear jameson greer apart jameson greer gave as good
00:14:08.460 as he got in his own gentlemanly way so today the uh trade rep up there in front of the senate finance
00:14:13.420 committee and they torn him the people in the democratic party said they're the biggest populist
00:14:17.700 short commercial break natalie winters is live at the white house hopefully get some coal workers and 1.00
00:14:23.560 she's got some color revolution resistance rachel matter is going crazy half her show every night is 1.00
00:14:29.560 full screen what these everything is going around the country the whole revolt short commercial break
00:14:35.160 back in the warm in just a moment
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00:16:11.720 war room here's your host stephen k man
00:16:16.100 okay natalie has uh one of the uh the great co-workers with her natalie i'm gonna toss it to
00:16:23.880 you uh and uh let it rip ma'am 0.96
00:16:26.000 thank you steve i'm honored to be joined by zach erdlejack did i get that right
00:16:32.280 there you go who is coming at us from pennsylvania it's your first time at the white house before
00:16:37.160 we get into the wonderful executive orders that president trump signed today why are you here
00:16:41.400 why did you want to come to today's event uh well we wanted to come to support what uh president
00:16:46.980 trump's going to do for us i mean uh you know you go through your career here as a coal miner
00:16:51.860 uh in a country where 99 of the people actually don't know where their uh electric electricity comes
00:17:01.160 from uh and what people have to do to provide uh natural resources to the american people
00:17:08.040 and i don't know how long you have worked being a coal miner but from your perspective i see your
00:17:12.360 wonderful maga hard hat is president trump the only first from your perspective president who has
00:17:21.240 actually treated you guys with the dignity and respect that your industry deserves yeah absolutely so i
00:17:27.640 started my career under the obama administration um and it's it's it's just been a struggle uh from
00:17:35.160 the day one where i when i got into the industry uh with policy from the federal government and it
00:17:40.600 always left you with an unsettling feeling until um president trump's first term uh and now with his
00:17:46.440 second we're we're very excited that he's in office and and we have his support and in terms of the
00:17:52.520 threats or accusations that they've hurled against your industry yes steve go ahead yeah can you ask
00:17:59.400 him why why clean coal is an answer i mean president trump's gone on a limb here and said clean coal
00:18:05.160 is one of the answers for the energy needs of the united states can you ask zach why clean coal what's
00:18:10.040 been different and why clean coal is an answer now in the 21st century why is clean coal now the answer
00:18:17.960 for the 21st century so um it's been clean for a while but what this does for america is it brings
00:18:26.600 competition back into the energy sector so that means lower prices for americans on their electric bill
00:18:33.320 month to month so when i first started in the industry we were producing about 48 of the nation's
00:18:39.880 electricity and now that's down to 16 so if it keeps dwindling down we're going to be relying on very
00:18:46.120 few energy sources which means then uh the energy companies can name their price month to month on
00:18:51.480 what you pay for electricity so the big thing is capitalism as trump always loves to go to
00:18:57.720 and and bring competition into the energy sector and when you see democrats or climate change activists
00:19:04.680 really lobbying hard against you guys what do you think is motivating that in other words you know
00:19:10.200 american energy independence is a direct threat to the chinese communist party there's a lot of much more
00:19:14.920 powerful forces right than just democratic party politics what do you think is really pushing
00:19:19.640 people to oppose really your livelihood and how you support your family i think ignorance to how
00:19:25.960 people's energy gets to their house they truly don't understand where power comes from and what
00:19:34.600 people have to do coal miners in general have to do to produce the product we do to get at the power
00:19:43.640 plants and to produce electricity and it's i think it's just sheer ignorance on how the world operates
00:19:49.640 and you hear a lot of discussion now coming predominantly from the left side of the aisle
00:19:53.960 saying how that they're you know hardcore populists right they want to support the working class the
00:19:58.360 working americans with what you do that's something that is essentially an existential threat or i guess
00:20:05.160 the policies that they would propose to your you know ability to make an income your ability to
00:20:09.640 to mine clean coal what would you say to left-wing populists who seem to be flying first class to
00:20:15.400 their rallies but when they want to shut down your industry yeah so the hypocrisy that comes from the left
00:20:21.800 um is it's it's unmatched because they they don't understand if you really wanted to take a stand
00:20:29.880 turn your power off to your house turn your laptop off turn your phone off get rid of everything
00:20:35.560 that that takes fossil fuels to operate or that has fossil fuels as a byproduct in it until then uh
00:20:43.240 you know sure we need to find um alternative ways of energy and i'm all for that but we're not there yet as
00:20:51.080 a country so until we do get there we need to utilize all the natural resources we have
00:20:58.040 to keep low cost energy prices to the american people and steve you let me know when we we've
00:21:04.280 got a bounce i don't have a clock but just walk us through how revolutionary what president trump did
00:21:08.760 today was not just for the american economy but especially for your livelihood for your ability
00:21:13.800 to to mine clean coal uh it's it's opportunity um what he's done today is now not just gave all the
00:21:21.640 employees at my company and every other coal company in america um he he's keeping the legacy
00:21:27.560 of coal going for other generations to come so when my kids if they ever want to get into the industry
00:21:33.560 they might have a place to go to be able to provide for their families so um he's he's keeping a long
00:21:39.640 legacy of hard-working americans um in a in a set industry uh he's keeping us going and we often
00:21:46.920 hear that a lot of jobs like yours oh those are jobs that americans don't want to do right that's
00:21:51.000 why we need to import essentially the third world or massive amounts of immigrants legal and illegal 1.00
00:21:57.240 what would your message be i think you hear it predominantly from sort of elitists in both parties
00:22:02.280 but that your jobs people who are actually working with their hands doing real hardcore manual labor
00:22:07.960 that we don't need to import an entire new class of people into this country to do that that you and
00:22:12.040 your family your children you would love nothing more i'm sure than for them to be involved in what
00:22:15.880 you're doing so if you ever want to know about a coal miner just go talk to them they love what they
00:22:21.720 do they love to talk and brag about the work that they do and you know the work we are doing today
00:22:27.960 and again goes back to the ignorance of people who don't actually know what coal mining is about is one of
00:22:32.760 the most highly technological industries out there right now the technology the technology with
00:22:39.320 computers um equipment massive equipment underground and what people have to go through underground
00:22:45.240 to haul and assemble that equipment for the extraction of coal um it's it's unmatched and it's
00:22:51.480 and it's unfortunate that more americans can't see what we do but all you'd have to do is go talk to
00:22:55.960 a coal miner and he'll tell you how much he loves to do it and i just have to ask do you wear this hat when
00:23:00.360 you are working actually no so i made this special occasion for the event and uh i was lucky enough
00:23:06.120 that the the president was would sign it for me so we gotta you show the camera the signature yes i can
00:23:15.080 take that climate change activists
00:23:19.320 one more time zach earl jack here from pennsylvania that you see a bunch of other people that you were
00:23:24.920 here with but only you were brave enough to come on the war room if people maybe you don't want to
00:23:29.640 share your social media but we always ask all of our guests where people want to follow them stay
00:23:34.520 up to date you should come on the war room more often but how can people follow you stay in touch
00:23:39.720 if you want to do so well first if if you ever want to invite me back i'd be more than happy to come to
00:23:44.440 the war room um but i'm not a big social media guy i do have accounts but i don't post anything i just
00:23:50.920 i like to keep up twittering on is what i'm hearing i i like to get my news from different sources and
00:23:56.120 social media is one of them but uh yeah so i'm not very heavily involved in in so power to you
00:24:02.200 too busy uh letting us be able to turn our lights on thank you so much for coming on war room and for
00:24:07.480 everything you do for this country thank you for having me thank you thanks back to you fantastic
00:24:13.080 interview fantastic natalie i want to go uh well we still got you we're going to play in the next
00:24:18.360 segment uh we're going to play in the next segment the situation with usaid and the color revolution
00:24:24.520 but i got to ask you right there you heard from a working man in this country how the democrats have
00:24:29.160 kind of abandoned them give me your uh feedback uh focahontas and bernie sanders went after
00:24:35.640 jameson greer the u.s trade rep today he was the deputy for lightheiser in the first term i mean this
00:24:41.000 guy knows president trump's program backwards and forwards and he's such a gentleman that you know
00:24:45.240 he didn't raise his voice he just kind of took it but what do you think about democrats
00:24:49.320 are supposed to be the most populist uh it's supposed to be you know they try to be economic
00:24:54.040 nationalists uh they didn't really talk about bringing jobs back they just attacked attacked
00:24:58.440 attack president trump's uh trade uh trade war and his tariff plan ma'am well steve i've buried the
00:25:06.600 lead on today's show because cnn has been following me around all day so just imagine cnn having to witness
00:25:12.840 that exchange i also interviewed with them earlier today but all that aside i think today really shows
00:25:18.760 you the mask has dropped on the so-called populist left right we know that it fell whenever they talk
00:25:24.360 about immigration legal and illegal but the only thing that they seem to care about right now is the
00:25:29.560 stock market now i know we've said these statistics but they're worth hammering over and over again the
00:25:34.600 top 10 percent oh 93 percent of all stocks and i know that might make me sound like some crazy left-wing
00:25:41.480 person but what it means is that the american working class has never actually had a president
00:25:46.920 who was willing to put them first and i think steve if you look back especially at the last four
00:25:52.440 years can you tell me give me one single damn day in the presidency of joe biden where he did anything
00:25:59.720 that was actually geared towards ensuring the economic livelihood and future the bottom 50 percent of
00:26:06.280 america's working class instead of the top one percent or ten percent you can't and i think you're
00:26:12.280 you're seeing that legacy be continued on by people who like to talk tough about tariffs and pretend
00:26:17.560 and uh defending the working class but you know what steve for all of the speeches and tweets that
00:26:22.760 people like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have put out in defense of america's working class
00:26:27.640 i'll even quote nancy pelosi and a bunch of democratic leaders on the efficacy of tariffs none of them
00:26:33.160 ever had the guts to do it because you know why they're all part of a uniparty elite class who they 0.69
00:26:40.280 think that they can distract you by just saying the t-word and saying oh we got to take on china 1.00
00:26:45.240 so much so that we have to have a trillion dollar defense budget turned deficit but they never
00:26:50.760 actually do anything when the time comes let alone holding the line and president trump actually did that
00:26:58.760 so take your populist talking points bernie sanders and uh shove it just like you did when the coke money 0.94
00:27:05.160 started hitting and you didn't care about open borders anymore natalie hang on for one second
00:27:11.320 we're gonna take a short commercial break i want a notification to you that a federal court has ruled
00:27:16.920 that the associated press at the ban on the associated press regarding the gulf of america what i talked to
00:27:22.760 eric about in the last segment is unconstitutional i'm sure we'll be fighting that over the days and weeks
00:27:29.240 ahead uh the color revolution the resistance the other aspect line of attack on president trump and
00:27:35.480 his policies geared up a big time natalie's going to stick around uh for another segment or take a 1.00
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00:29:40.280 some people the the the the critique comes from people suggesting that the resistance wasn't able to
00:29:49.240 consolidate power and move the country into a more pro-democratic frame of mind over the long term
00:29:58.760 this is not unique to the united states actually over the last many number of years
00:30:04.440 um this is something that was almost like universal and a lot of the so-called like
00:30:11.560 color revolutions or people power movements of the last 15 years where you see in egypt in 2011
00:30:18.440 there's a strong what you would call negative coalition trying to get more c out after in tunisia
00:30:24.040 they're getting ben ali out um and that's a strong negative coalition of like throw throw the guy out
00:30:30.680 um and you could argue that that was what was going on in the fall of 2020 just throw the guy out right
00:30:38.200 and protect the results um and then what happens is that uh if it doesn't actually transfer into
00:30:45.640 something that's more of a positive coalition which is and here is an amazing and totally attractive
00:30:51.000 and irresistible vision for the future of the country um that is going to bring people along
00:30:55.960 um that it just makes the short-term victory extremely fragile and vulnerable to what
00:31:06.040 effectively is a counter-revolution um or a return to the asean regime so this happened in egypt in 2013
00:31:13.320 it happened in tunisia in 2022 sudan had a big breakthrough moment in 2019 same thing happens
00:31:19.800 in 2021 and those are in countries that were really consolidated autocracies that had their democratic
00:31:25.640 breakthrough moment um but then uh we had a major backsliding episode or a coup um so you know
00:31:32.840 those are more extreme examples but what happened in the united states was a coup attempt um that was
00:31:38.520 thwarted by a pro-democratic coalition and the sort of project of bidenomics i think was trying to
00:31:46.280 express that positive coalition and it didn't sell or it didn't work somehow
00:31:50.760 okay natalie help me out here uh and maybe we do this uh later in the week also from your studio but
00:31:59.800 i'm confused they're they're saying that our attempt to stop the steal in 2020 was a coup attempt
00:32:06.360 and this falls into their whole uh color revolution doctrine now ma'am
00:32:10.680 so just to sort of set the stage on what you just watched that is a it's gonna say chick but goes by
00:32:19.640 they them pronouns erica chenoweth uh who was hosting co-hosting an event with steven levitsky
00:32:27.080 who's someone that we've talked about sort of coining the idea of this democratic backsliding or
00:32:32.200 autocratic breakthrough but this is part of that resistance lab training this was an official event
00:32:38.680 hosted by the harvard uh ash center's center for non-violent protest which is the official
00:32:44.920 partner of representative pramila jayapal's resistance lab group and in that whole sort of
00:32:52.120 i think diatribe where they're going off on color revolutions this is coming on the heels of the
00:32:57.800 reporting that we are breaking on this show which is that this again democratic member of congress
00:33:03.160 partnered organization and entity that is working on training protesters training anti-trump anti-tesla
00:33:10.760 protesters that they're funded by usaid they're funded by the state department despite their best
00:33:16.680 efforts to delete their web pages proving that exactly but they're using words i mean that was
00:33:23.000 essentially a rachel maddow opening right the way they're talking about color revolutions autocratic 1.00
00:33:28.360 breakthrough democratic backsliding all of this i mean that's really quite a bombshell clip i think
00:33:35.000 very vindicating and validating uh to the paradigm through which we've viewed a lot of these protests
00:33:42.920 no and this is one of the things they're trying to gin up as being they get they got the courts with
00:33:46.440 the judges they now have leonard leo and coke jumping into the courts on trade uh and the courts have
00:33:52.840 worked in uh in in france in in brazil in south korea they're trying to get it here to president
00:33:58.920 trump it obviously worked on the on the stop on the uh on us trying to stop the steal uh they've also
00:34:04.440 got political now tom tillison guys up there you got seven uh republicans teaming up the democrats
00:34:10.600 to start trying to get some political momentum but this is still i think one of the most important
00:34:15.560 chennawith is getting to be a bigger and bigger player are you telling me she's actually paid 1.00
00:34:20.200 by harvard or through usa money going to harvard and i hope that somebody gets to president trump's
00:34:26.040 team and tell them on the shutdown of harvard the money going to harvard that this lab ought to be
00:34:30.120 shut down ma'am well i raise you this erica chennawith is the director of that harvard ash center's 0.88
00:34:39.000 center for non-violent protest which not only is that stochastic terrorism i think that's projection
00:34:45.160 if i've ever heard it but this individual is not just receiving funds you know by proxy or through
00:34:51.640 a bunch of weird webs of financing this center is explicitly funded on their website by usa id and
00:34:59.080 the state department but chenna with herself has received countless grants from usa id and also the
00:35:06.680 united states institute of peace um she's lectured believe it or not at usa id in 2015 2016
00:35:15.000 and 2022 via zoom on like lgbtq plus protest training and she was actually a consultant
00:35:24.200 at the united states institute of peace from 2017 to 2019 but i think the important thing too
00:35:32.040 to really stress to the audience is that this is not just run-of-the-mill political organizing
00:35:40.280 community organizing or anything in the realm of actual democratic protest or grassroots organizing
00:35:48.200 this is someone whose entire career has been dedicated to studying the interplay between violent
00:35:55.800 protests non-violent protest and actual acts of terrorism writing articles and papers about how to
00:36:03.080 topple dictators so the fact that they're weaponizing this individual right against president trump
00:36:11.480 shows you not just the stakes through which they're operating with but the paradigm and matrix
00:36:16.600 through which they are engaging and trying to oppose president trump
00:36:23.080 last thing too i've noticed on rachel matter in fact i think even media matters picked up today 1.00
00:36:27.560 she's going to the full she gets so worked up on her show on every little protest around the country 0.91
00:36:33.080 she now has a full screen with like 20 to 50. uh is she getting crazier and crazier every day 1.00
00:36:39.320 and trying what they're trying to gin up they're trying to gin up uh hysteria among the defeated democratic
00:36:45.960 base are they not i mean and she's gonna she's kind of going over the top on this now
00:36:49.640 well is that a rhetorical question yes of course i think she debuted was for the first time ever on
00:36:57.720 her show last week and we do have the clip what she called the 20 box you know we usually do a two 0.79
00:37:03.480 box uh but this was a 20 protest split screen and she even she even went out of her way it wasn't like 0.96
00:37:09.720 they just did it she said she said this is the first time ever in our show's history that we're
00:37:14.280 doing a 20 box so the point is they're making a point to jam at home to hammer their audience
00:37:22.040 to show up to these protests steve i went to the protest the big protest on saturday there were
00:37:26.760 sort of two concurrent ones there was more of the like gaza hamas though a lot of transgender people
00:37:32.520 there try to square that there's that one and then closer to the mall there was the you know trump
00:37:37.720 as a dictator we really hate doge cohort of people um all with the you know signs that are printed so 1.00
00:37:45.640 well and so large i don't even know where they find that size of paper to get it professionally
00:37:49.880 printed but i guess if you follow our reporting on indivisible and how they're reimbursing them for
00:37:54.920 all of that i guess it starts to make sense but yeah you're exactly right but steve it's not like this
00:38:01.320 is just some random strategy it all goes back to the fact that they lost the house they lost the
00:38:06.360 senate they lost the presidency so they can't impeach president trump so they're now adjusting the pie
00:38:11.720 to increase street protesters because it's their only source of leverage and the judges in the media
00:38:16.440 but their shock troops uh i guess need some target to be weaponized against natalie where do people go
00:38:23.880 to get uh you're putting up great uh great stuff on social media all the time where do people go
00:38:29.800 natalie g winters on all platforms thank you as always for having me
00:38:33.320 and get ready for the ap reporter to be back into the uh press briefings now that the at least the
00:38:40.040 lower court has ruled it was unconstitutional about gulf of america so so thank you thank you
00:38:45.720 thank you my lovely colleagues love them thank you thank you ma'am appreciate you natalie winners uh so
00:38:55.400 today real america's voice great coverage from the east room on coal and natalie thank you for getting the uh
00:39:01.320 the coal miner there i realized a lot of them may be hey i don't know about this uh about tv who can
00:39:07.320 trust but it's a fantastic interview right there right from the heart and i think with president
00:39:11.480 trump just go back while saying eric bowling president trump's theory of the case is pretty
00:39:17.400 simple he wants full spectrum energy dominance like the alternatives you know he's not a huge name in
00:39:24.200 wind but solar hydroelectric all others even wind to a degree he's prepared to give anything a
00:39:31.080 shot but he's going to take the shackles off the american energy uh industry because he understands
00:39:37.720 in driving down the cost of energy you that's the foundation for an industrial power when you talk
00:39:43.880 about this russian rapprochement that uh that uh president uh whitkoff and president trump are working
00:39:50.040 on uh and one aspect of that i think you're seeing pop up already is president trump with or
00:39:55.320 whitkoff's going to have high level discussions uh with the persians on saturday to kind of put to
00:40:01.160 bed and let's get a diplomatic solution or some sort of uh work through about this nuclear uh program 0.76
00:40:05.960 where there's some particularly the nuclear weapon aspect of that um you know whitkoff and president
00:40:10.440 trump when they talk about russia i think the foundational element of that will be a huge massive
00:40:15.640 energy deal you know russia's energy was was being used by uh uh by the west it still was even in
00:40:21.960 the war when they gave us all the happy talk they're not going to do it they're not going to do
00:40:24.680 it i mean germany would fall into a uh into a non-industrial power they're almost doing that
00:40:29.400 anyways dave walsh has uh has laid out so many times but the foundation of that will be an energy
00:40:35.160 deal that i think will benefit the folks in western europe and president trump is adamant about energy
00:40:40.680 that's why i told eric bowling eric says hey it's a lot of stuff on national and natural gas well hey
00:40:44.840 we're the uh pennsylvania alone the commonwealth of pennsylvania alone is the saudi arabia of natural gas
00:40:51.960 that's one of the reasons so important for president trump when he returned as president
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00:46:08.920 okay mike's uh recovering from another a throat operation uh he promised me this is the last one
00:46:14.840 it's been four so i'm getting a little worried about mike lindell mike is uh you know they're
00:46:19.000 under constant pressure all the time particularly up there in minnesota we have a special treat when
00:46:23.720 we come back in the six o'clock hour uh our own mike davis of article three the vice rory is actually
00:46:30.600 at the white house and we're going to play uh we've got a cold open with him so much has happened
00:46:35.240 today on the legal side and that's why i want to start off the six o'clock hour play these clips that
00:46:39.320 we've got from mainstream media and then bring mike davis in because additional things have happened even
00:46:44.200 since mike got there to the white house if you go back let's just reset for a second uh as president
00:46:49.800 trump is fighting this uh enormous uh trade war and and and really reorganizing kind of world uh the
00:46:56.920 world trading network to benefit american workers and to benefit uh the united states of america to put
00:47:03.800 america first and her citizens first and her workers first the resistance on this is incredible but
00:47:09.720 you're seeing the resistance on wall street and among the uh the tech bros is one thing the
00:47:15.640 nations of the world are stacked up like uh like nobody else uh and by the way tell me when we got
00:47:20.840 that last special clip ready to go we have we have a very special clip of a new delegation that's
00:47:27.320 arrived in washington dc to actually talk to uh to um peter navarro and secretary of treasury scott
00:47:33.960 besant uh also but at the same time the courts they are all over the courts they see a way because
00:47:40.040 they've looked at france they've looked at brazil they're looking at um they're looking at um uh
00:47:46.440 south korea with the coup there these folks understand this kind of radical judiciary that i
00:47:52.440 think if you look at them all kind of think alike they're a little bit neo-marxist and they've got an
00:47:56.680 attitude of judicial supremacy they think that they think that uh they think they're going to be able to shut
00:48:01.640 it down uh with that also you have this now political movement tom tillison some republicans
00:48:07.080 are up there uh are up there um you know messing around with uh president trump and sign up with
00:48:13.400 the democrats okay we have a short clip right here before we go out and we're going to come back at
00:48:18.360 six o'clock at the top of the hour the second hour of the show with mike davis live from the white
00:48:22.920 house so the bunch of clips we want to say and uh and get mike davis opinion these we have this is the
00:48:27.720 latest delegation that's just arrived in washington dc let's go ahead we got some b-roll let's go and
00:48:32.040 play it
00:48:33.160 okay we got it guys thanks there it is right there don't trust the penguins right one of the reasons
00:48:51.800 they're doing this is they're trying to make sure that there's no way they can have safe haven for
00:48:55.960 for uh for money laundering or safe haven for counterfeiting so i think they did the smart
00:49:00.760 thing and that's blanket of course the mainstream media is going crazy there but there you saw the
00:49:05.400 penguins are showing up and the penguins are going to make sure they're they're if it listen you got
00:49:09.080 to mock these people right that's a great uh a great clip to tell them hey we don't take you seriously
00:49:14.840 uh and we'll mock you but the penguins have arrived to meet with i think scott bessen is going
00:49:18.440 to let peter navarro handle that uh meeting mike uh mike davis is going to talk to you uh about uh
00:49:25.800 the situation with the impeachment the impeachment of these federal judges it has to start and it has
00:49:31.880 to start at the judiciary committee remember we're going to need everybody up on the ramparts that's
00:49:37.240 happening support for the trade deals happening now we've got the uh now we've got um the reconciliation
00:49:44.600 semaphore has a blockbuster story up that president trump has told u.s senators that he is supportive
00:49:51.560 right now and open to uh raising taxes on the wealthy if that's what it takes to start to close
00:49:57.640 the for him one to be able to give more tax cuts to working class people particularly no tax on social
00:50:04.280 security so that is a huge story today from a semaphore that's up i've got it up on my getter
00:50:09.400 we'll talk about that more in the next hour but we're going to need you on the ramparts to support
00:50:14.440 really something logical on the reconciliation right now i don't know there's 20 to 30 maybe 40 people in
00:50:20.680 the house i don't think like the senate bill whatsoever quite and to be brutally frank what
00:50:26.120 i understand the senate bill i hate it just it's it's quite confusing uh there's all types of promises
00:50:32.360 about potential cuts to be made or agreements i'll be reached in the summer uh but i think it's kind of
00:50:37.640 gimmicky and right now we can't have gimmicks this is why i hope president trump and the team and treasury
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00:50:47.000 of one big beautiful bill and i think this is one of the problems with doing one big beautiful bill
00:50:51.240 if you can't back out what we need on the border and what we need for the military i will also tell
00:50:56.840 you and i love pete hexeth you know nobody worked harder for pete than this show i i just don't get
00:51:02.040 this trillion dollar defense bill uh in particular does it align with the new geo-strategic reality pete's
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00:52:11.880 capitol hill we got so many fights going on mike davis is going to be here to define one of them
00:52:17.160 in the courts these radical courts showing some support on president trump on some things showing
00:52:22.200 not support on others short commercial break we're gonna leave you with the right stuff we're
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