Bannon's War Room - Episode 4424： The New York Times Fears The New Normal

00:00:00.000 Have a great weekend. Have a beautiful Easter Sunday. Talk to you Monday, Steve.

00:00:05.380 Thank you. Thank you, sir. It's Good Friday. Thank you for being here for our afternoon,

00:00:11.180 early evening show. In the second hour, Patrick K. O'Donnell is going to join me,

00:00:16.340 and it's going to be very, very special. This is not just Good Friday, the most solemn day

00:00:22.100 in the calendar of the Christian and Catholic Church in the Orthodox Christian Church. It's

00:00:26.980 also the eve of the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, which we'll be doing Lexington

00:00:33.700 and Concord on the morning show tomorrow morning or Saturday show and tying it to what events

00:00:38.760 are happening now and where you come in. This audience comes in both in the history of what

00:00:44.980 happened to our country back then and people are taking action and what's going on today.

00:00:49.360 Tonight is the 250th anniversary of the ride of Paul Revere, the midnight ride, and Patrick K.

00:00:54.880 O'Donnell will be joining us and giving all the context and history. You'll want to stick

00:00:59.280 around for that because it's very special. It's only Patrick K. O'Donnell can do. We've

00:01:03.260 got an incredible call open. Just an amazing day for news on every different vertical. Let's

00:01:07.680 go ahead and play it. Natalie, I'm just going to join me on the other side.

00:01:10.880 Sir, when are we going to see accountability and consequences for sanctuary state and local

00:01:17.020 officials that are violating AUSC 1324 by harboring illegal aliens? As well as, isn't it kind of

00:01:24.640 bizarre that Chris Van Hollen tried to smuggle and facilitate the reentry of this illegal alien,

00:01:31.640 also in violation of AUSC 1324?

00:01:33.620 We also haven't heard any stories about the Logan Act this time around for whatever reason.

00:01:36.420 So, it's a great question and a knowledgeable question. I don't get a lot of questions around

00:01:46.060 here where people are citing the Immigration and Nationality Act. So, that's great. You're

00:01:50.940 exactly right that the sanctuary cities are engaged in multiple criminal violations, harboring,

00:01:57.580 smuggling, inducing, obstructing justice, obstructing official proceedings, and many other crimes.

00:02:03.420 And this is something that the Department of Justice is taking a very hard look at. I will

00:02:09.000 just say that it is my view, the view of this administration, that these cities are engaged

00:02:15.180 in systemic criminal violations, and that they are engaged in a scheme to nullify and obstruct

00:02:21.780 the duly enacted laws of the United States of America. And I would, again, note, when you

00:02:26.080 talk about morality, talk about decency. Sanctuary cities shield criminal illegal aliens from 0.83

00:02:32.280 removal. We repeatedly go into communities and arrest illegal aliens who were previously

00:02:37.040 in custody, that they refused to turn over, that were sent back onto the street, that have 0.97

00:02:42.160 subsequently raped or abused a child. I just want you to think about that for a second. 0.92

00:02:46.880 You have sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, like Boston, like Chicago, where illegal aliens 0.94

00:02:52.400 will be booked, arrested, placed into city or state custody, charged with serious crimes.

00:02:59.160 ICE will ask them to be turned over for deportation. They will willfully release them back onto the

00:03:04.920 street, obstructing federal law enforcement, doing so at a time and place of their choosing,

00:03:09.760 making sure that we don't know where and when they will be set free. And then those illegal aliens 0.96

00:03:14.600 will go out and take someone's son or someone's daughter and abuse and rape them. 0.98

00:03:18.960 So we came here yesterday to sort of begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might 0.97

00:03:25.380 take to end the war, to try to figure out very soon, and I'm talking about a matter of days,

00:03:30.140 not a matter of weeks, whether or not this is the war that can be ended. If it can, we're prepared 0.63

00:03:34.920 to do whatever we can to facilitate that and make sure that it happens, that it ends in a durable

00:03:40.020 and just way. If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen,

00:03:45.360 then I think the president's probably at a point where he's going to say, well, we're done.

00:03:49.900 You know, we'll do what we can on the margins. We'll be ready to help whenever you're ready to

00:03:54.060 have peace. But but we're not going to continue with this endeavor for weeks and months on end.

00:03:59.680 So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days,

00:04:03.400 whether or not this is doable in the over the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's hot,

00:04:09.540 then we'll have to. We have other priorities to focus on as well. If for some reason one of the

00:04:15.840 two parties makes it very difficult, we're just going to say you're foolish, you're fools, 1.00

00:04:21.660 you're horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass. But hopefully we won't have to do that. 1.00

00:04:27.480 And Marco is right in saying that we're getting we want to see it end.

00:04:32.520 So diplomatically speaking, what do you make of this tactic of threatening to just move on from

00:04:38.080 the peace talks? Alex, it's hard to say. I mean, you never know whether they're bluffing,

00:04:46.380 whether they're just mistaken, whether they don't really care. The language is very imprecise. I mean,

00:04:54.140 I don't know exactly what moving on means. Does that mean we're not going to be a party

00:04:58.460 to the peace talks? Does that mean we're not going to give aid to Ukraine anymore? It's really

00:05:04.020 unclear. And yes, as you mentioned, President Trump famously said he would end the war in 24 hours.

00:05:10.700 Now, they're finding it's a lot more complex than they thought. Now, by the way, they did. I saw just

00:05:17.740 moments ago, they announced that they signed a memorandum of understanding with Ukraine about

00:05:22.180 access to rare earth minerals and some mutual Ukrainian and American fund for reconstruction

00:05:28.620 in Ukraine, which is a good thing. We have some breaking news. NBC News has learned the acting

00:05:33.740 commissioner of the IRS, Gary Shapely, is being removed amid a power struggle at the highest

00:05:40.020 levels of the White House. Let's go right to NBC's Yamiche Alcindor, who's covering this story for us.

00:05:44.900 Yamiche, what's happening here? What can you tell us?

00:05:47.740 What we know is that the acting head of the IRS, as you said, is being replaced by the Treasury

00:05:52.760 Secretary because he believes, the Treasury Secretary believes that he was installed,

00:05:57.220 the acting IRS secretary was installed behind his back, essentially, because Elon Musk wanted him

00:06:03.240 there. He complained, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett, to President Trump, saying that he did

00:06:07.680 not want that acting IRS secretary to be there, or excursion or be there. And as a result, his

00:06:13.180 replacement is going to be coming in. He's the deputy Treasury Secretary. This is all really, in some

00:06:17.720 ways, feeling like maybe inside baseball. The big bottom line here is that you have a power struggle

00:06:22.400 between Elon Musk and an agency head. And this is really coming as we know that Elon Musk has really

00:06:28.680 had issues with a number of agency heads, including Marco Rubio at the Secretary of State and other heads

00:06:33.940 of agencies. That's him and the Department of Government Efficiency have essentially tried to take over

00:06:38.200 roles and taken over decisions that agency heads are making. Now, the White House is out with a statement

00:06:43.400 that they provided to the New York Times. That statement says, in part, from Caroline, from Caroline

00:06:48.720 Levitt, she says, in part, it's no secret President Trump has put together a team of people who are

00:06:54.420 incredibly passionate about the issues impacting our country. Disagreements are no more part of any

00:06:59.200 healthy policy process. And ultimately, everyone knows they serve at the pleasure of the president.

00:07:04.220 So really interesting that the White House, in some ways, is actually acknowledging that this was a

00:07:08.500 power struggle. I mean, it shows you that there's going to be, in some ways, more to come of this

00:07:12.700 as Elon Musk and Doge continue to make decisions and its agency heads really try to rustle back some

00:07:17.620 of that power. Alex. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're

00:07:29.000 going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the

00:07:35.560 people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've

00:07:39.760 tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to

00:07:42.680 happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish

00:07:50.280 that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:07:57.220 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:08:03.400 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:08:10.860 Friday, 18 April, in the year of early 2025, another furious news day on many huge developing

00:08:19.480 stories and news stories. As I said with Eric Bolling, by the way, so it's the 250th anniversary

00:08:26.080 this evening of the historic ride of Paul Revere to warn the colonists about the impending

00:08:33.900 military action of the British Expeditionary Force. Tomorrow is the 250th anniversary of

00:08:40.580 the shot heard around the world, both at Lexington Common and then later at Concord Bridge.

00:08:46.400 And we will be doing both. Patrick K. and Donald and I break it all down later on the 6 o'clock

00:08:52.880 hour. And then I will be on tomorrow with other guests to break things down and to be live and

00:09:00.360 do some of the ceremony, some of the commemoration. Marco Rubio, a couple of things before we get

00:09:06.340 Natalie on. Marco Rubio, so a big development coming out of, with everything else going on and

00:09:14.680 now engage in this war, this economic war with the Chinese Communist Party. Folks, understand

00:09:20.540 something. We're really have embargoed everything with the terrorists where they are. We've embargoed

00:09:27.320 essentially everything coming from China. That is a big deal. And the rest that's going on,

00:09:33.760 working on the Russian rapprochement, et cetera, this kind of peace deal or ceasefire, whatever

00:09:39.080 you want to call it, around the Ukraine, they've kind of got, I think, a general sense of at least

00:09:47.760 what the Russians want and surely what the Ukrainians want. I just don't think that there's

00:09:52.600 enough urgency on at least the Ukrainian side to want to bring this thing to a head. And I think

00:10:00.200 Secretary Rubio is justified. And I can tell you he's not kidding around because before he would say

00:10:05.180 that, he ran that by the President of the United States. I think there's limited, very limited

00:10:10.780 patience for this. And I think that if people don't want to move on, the United States is going to move

00:10:17.260 on and there's going to be no more money, no more arms, zero, and let Europe have at it. If the

00:10:24.020 Europeans are prepared to commit and put up that kind of, those kind of resources and potential troops,

00:10:29.200 then, you know, this thing could drag on. But I can tell you the French don't have the money, 1.00

00:10:35.840 nor the political will, nor the people in France have the interests. Same thing in the United

00:10:39.600 Kingdom. Each one of those are in a pretty bad financial shape. After years of overborrowing,

00:10:46.440 they all, I think, could potentially have sovereign debt crises. Their people right now are scrambling

00:10:52.240 about social service in France. They're at each other's throat about where these cuts are going to come

00:10:55.980 from. So the Ukrainians, as we've said on the show forever and ever, unless the Americans are 0.95

00:11:03.760 prepared to just give unlimited resources. And remember, it's been up to $60 billion a year. I

00:11:09.240 think President Trump says we're in 350. We calculate 250. The worst case, I think, is 175 to 180. I think

00:11:17.180 even Zelensky said, hey, I see it's supposed to be 175. I only got 60 of it. If that's cut off,

00:11:25.180 I don't think with the big, beautiful bill and what's happening on the budget side, and here

00:11:31.340 they're arguing about tax increases. And look, I don't want to increase taxes on people just to

00:11:35.400 increase them, but the upper bracket is going to have to go to 40% to somehow be part of filling

00:11:41.220 this gap, this massive gap on, I don't know, War Room's calling for a two and a half trillion

00:11:46.580 deficit this fiscal year, 2.5 trillion, given where I think tax revenues coming in and expenses

00:11:55.580 are. So there's no more 60 billion. I'm not sure he could get 6 billion, 5 billion. We would

00:12:00.600 fight tooth and nail just to make sure they got zero. Reality's got us. Uncle Sugar is gone.

00:12:08.020 Again, the President Trump's attitude and his cut, and this is why if Karl Rove, the thing

00:12:14.000 about Ezra Klein, Karl Rove and David Brooks, all part of the establishment, one's a little

00:12:21.080 more progressive, just a little bit more. Brooks and Rove are epitomes of the conservative.

00:12:29.180 You've seen David Brooks on TV for years. You've seen Karl Rove all the time since Bush 43.

00:12:33.720 They're breaking. Ezra Klein calls it, what he called this morning, we did the cold open

00:12:40.720 with Ezra Klein, it's the crisis is here. The crisis is here. David Brooks essentially

00:12:48.460 calling people to go to the streets, that now we have to make our move. We have to shut

00:12:52.520 this thing down. And Karl Rove's sitting there going, it's going to end badly. People are tired

00:12:58.100 of Trump already within 100 days. What they're tired of, Karl, is phony Republicans like you 0.79

00:13:07.520 that yammered for tax cuts for the wealthy, ran up $9 trillion in two wars that you guys

00:13:16.440 had as wars of choice. Yes, the Afghanistan war was a war of choice. You could have gone

00:13:20.800 hunted down Osama bin Laden and eradicate the Taliban. The paramilitary guys didn't have

00:13:28.080 turned over 30 days. To stay there for the democracy project, to stay in Iraq for the 0.95

00:13:33.580 democracy project, $9 trillion, $10,000 dead, $40,000 to $50,000 wounded, and I'm not counting

00:13:39.200 the contractors, the Tej Gills of the world that they got off the payroll and put on contracts. 1.00

00:13:45.580 Bush, the guy you work for is the worst president in the history of this country, and I include

00:13:50.040 James Buchanan in that category, the worst. So you're tired of it? We don't give a damn

00:13:56.120 what you're tired of because, bro, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're just getting revved

00:13:59.120 up. President Trump's on a roll right now, taking them all on, hammering down every vertical,

00:14:06.260 and his folks love it. So if you think it's going to end badly, fine. Everybody's getting

00:14:13.580 free country, get an opinion. But President Trump's not going to back off. He doesn't care

00:14:18.060 what Rupert Murdoch has to say. Shows you about Fox and the Wall Street Journal. They're

00:14:23.700 100% against populist nationalism. And one of the reasons is their heads are blowing up

00:14:29.580 because guess what, old man Murdoch? You got a 40% tax rate coming at you, bro. Suck on

00:14:36.400 that. Grover Norcrest, Karl Rove. I think it's going to end badly. And I'm not so sure it's 1.00

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00:16:11.280 In the war room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:19.360 Can we put up the, um, by the way, I'm going to get to the, I'm going to get in a little while to the, um,

00:16:24.960 to the, um, IRS. Elon Musk having a quite bad run, uh, here recently. I think it's going to get a little

00:16:34.180 worse. Uh, and you saw this, this story of the IRS is a huge story, as we say, and I'll give you the

00:16:41.000 underpinnings of it in a moment. Uh, Natalie Winters, you're here. You also want to comment.

00:16:46.420 Carl Rove, this is what I love. In fact, I put up on Getter, uh, in the early morning hours, I think,

00:16:53.600 uh, of this morning when Brooks' thing came out that, uh, you know, we done broke, we done broke

00:16:59.600 David Brooks real good. He's, he's a broken man. He's calling for a national mass movement

00:17:06.560 of law firms, university professors, the credential class. Cause he says Trump is, you know, is in a

00:17:14.340 comprehensive power move to destroy it all. Every institution that he holds a dear. Uh, want me

00:17:21.440 through your, your thoughts on that. You've also got a, he's tucked in there, a younger generation

00:17:25.840 also in this. What do you think about David Brooks? Well, I guess the, uh, Trump derangement

00:17:32.140 syndrome truly has metastasized, but I think that this piece is quite compelling for a lot of

00:17:38.560 reasons, because I think it affirms a lot of what we've been discussing here in the war room,

00:17:43.160 not just the stage four meltdowns, the color revolution theory, the importance of civil uprising

00:17:49.000 protests, and in some cases, very violent protests at that. But if you look at the key researcher

00:17:55.180 that he cites throughout this piece, making sort of the argument as to why they need to engage in

00:18:01.680 this national civic uprising, by the way, pay attention to the words that they use because

00:18:07.080 it used to be mass demonstrations. It used to be nonviolent protests. It used to be peaceful

00:18:12.240 protests. Now they're calling for a civil uprising. Just put that one in the book, but they're

00:18:18.400 citing Erica Chenoweth and people may recall, what was it two weeks ago? The story that we broke,

00:18:23.880 it gained, I think, tens of millions of views across platforms about how you guessed it,

00:18:28.840 Harvard in conjunction with USAID and the state department were working to fund these new

00:18:34.840 resistance labs in concordance with democratic members of Congress, the same ones that I guess

00:18:40.140 are back channeling with democratic AGs. So it just sort of shows you that it's the same pattern

00:18:45.780 recognition whereby it's the same people who, when you really start to peel the layers back,

00:18:49.940 are also the same people who, for the last four years, have been intricately linked and involved

00:18:54.740 in the lawfare against President Trump and have been on sort of the receiving end

00:18:58.660 of what I would really call the global empire, at least the construct of it, and the minds of people

00:19:04.620 like David Brooks. And frankly, Steve, when I was reading this article talking about the sort of

00:19:09.380 divide between what Trumpism seeks to oppose or tear down, which is the established world order,

00:19:15.780 the sort of neoliberal, neocon, you know, rules-based international order that they're talking about,

00:19:20.680 which they want to defend, which I think the fact that war room is ascendant in viewership and the

00:19:24.920 New York Times and the Washington Post are failing shows you whose lived experience,

00:19:30.040 whose lived reality is actually more true and more prevalent. But I think the most interesting point

00:19:35.500 that I would make is that I see very similar parallels to, I think, how these legacy media outlets

00:19:40.300 covered the rise of China. What do I mean by that? It was Joe Biden, right, who wrote a very notorious

00:19:45.980 op-ed in 2008 saying that the rise of China is great for the United States. It's great for the 0.95

00:19:51.460 American people. But what it really comes down to, and I think you see this recurring theme,

00:19:56.340 particularly poignant in this David Brooks piece, the concept or the construct of the version of

00:20:01.100 American people that they're talking about is not people like me. It's not people like you. It's not 0.97

00:20:05.840 our audience. It's a very, you know, small beltway elite, the group who is on the receiving end,

00:20:11.380 not just of the USAID contracts, that's perhaps too on the nose, but just of this globalist ruling

00:20:17.100 class. And they're doing the same propaganda where they're sort of doing this limited hangout version

00:20:21.880 of it. But I just think our audience should really, really be paying attention to the sort of

00:20:26.640 analytical aspect of it, this idea that they're now calling for an uprising on the heels of a bunch

00:20:31.920 of violent protests that frankly didn't do anything and didn't really work. So they're stuck in a

00:20:36.700 corner. You know, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't know what to do and

00:20:39.960 they're lashing out.

00:20:45.620 How important is it that you think that these public intellectuals like Karl Rove and David Brooks

00:20:50.340 are now starting to basically be shattered, look like they're having nervous breakdowns,

00:20:55.360 but also calling for, you know, Karl Rove's not. He's saying, hey, this is going to end badly for

00:21:00.460 Trump. So he's implying something like this, but the David Brooks actually uses the line that we

00:21:05.800 need a mass mobilization effort of all these institutions from law firms to universities to

00:21:12.380 all of it against Trump. Well, I don't know if I would call these people public intellectuals,

00:21:18.560 maybe pseudo intellectuals at that. There are, of course, some people on the left and establishment,

00:21:22.920 right, who I at least respect intellectually. I don't know if Karl Rove is necessarily one of those,

00:21:28.720 but I think you can sort of link it to what you're seeing going on in the White House,

00:21:31.780 right, in terms of this whole new media initiative and just the absolute rejection,

00:21:36.880 the apoplectic nature of sort of the establishment credentialed institutional class that sits in there

00:21:42.020 that is really upset at my face being there at a bunch of other outlets. I mean, put it this way,

00:21:46.980 they will give more nuance and will probably give a warmer welcome to MS-13 and convicted wife

00:21:54.980 beaters and gang members and illegal aliens than they will new media, than they will you, than they 0.91

00:22:01.060 will our audience, right? It's this is the same group of people, right? We can go after the media

00:22:06.240 angle because I think that's sort of the front row, the flank, the Praetorian Guard. But these are the

00:22:10.600 same people who for what, how long told the American people that we have to accept being jammed

00:22:16.640 down our throats, tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens replacing us, taking our jobs, 1.00

00:22:22.440 we have to train their replacements. And now all of a sudden, these pseudo-intellectuals get a little

00:22:27.700 bit of competition because now it is actually, shall we say, free and fair trade in the sense that

00:22:33.080 there's no censorship. All of those guardrails have been stripped off. Now no one cares what they have

00:22:38.020 to say because they've always been wrong. They've just rested upon this global censorship complex,

00:22:43.560 the newsguards of the world to buttress their ideas. They're beyond and above reproach. That's why

00:22:48.240 that's why they hide behind these foreign-funded think tanks. But now that they actually have

00:22:52.860 competition, that they have shows like War Room, right, the equivalent of, you know, importing an

00:22:56.860 H-1B visa, they actually can't hang. They don't like it. And that's what they've been doing to the 1.00

00:23:01.660 American people for how long? For years. And they say that we're nativists and we're xenophobes for

00:23:06.700 daring to criticize it. So they can try all they want to terraform and manipulate the American

00:23:12.380 populace into accepting their ideas. But the difference is that people will show up and

00:23:18.140 support President Trump. People show up and listen to War Room voluntarily. They don't need to be

00:23:22.860 paid protesters. They don't need to be whipped up with USAID, State Department-funded propaganda

00:23:28.060 to actually believe something. And now that the core of it is that now that that entire censorship

00:23:35.040 ecosystem and really the globalist superstructure and power structure to its core, which people like

00:23:40.720 Mike Benz have done wonderful work exposing, now that the wheels are spinning off that, these people,

00:23:46.320 it is a sink or swim moment. And I think that they're realizing that they have been living on

00:23:51.580 borrowed time for a very, very long time because their ideas are extremely unpopular. And without

00:23:57.600 the censorship, no one cares what you have to say, Karl Rove. And if it weren't for idiots like you, 1.00

00:24:02.300 I probably wouldn't have been so incentivized at age, what, 19 to get involved in all of this, 1.00

00:24:07.440 because the truth is actually not that hard to share if you aren't being paid by a bunch of

00:24:12.360 globalist, you know, neo-Marxist corporations.

00:24:16.580 What do you think about the senator from Maryland going down and having a margarita with someone,

00:24:23.840 and we're going to have Michael Patrick Leahy up in a little while, about a guy that obviously was a

00:24:28.620 child trafficker, or I shouldn't say child trafficker, human trafficker, ma'am?

00:24:35.160 Well, look, I think Kilmar Garcia would probably get a warmer welcome in the White House briefing room

00:24:40.420 or the New York Times offices or the Washington Post offices than I would. And I'm not even kidding

00:24:46.200 when I say that. And apparently, Democratic senators are willing to fly down. And by the way,

00:24:51.340 the best part of it, Steve, Senator Van Hollen, I don't really even want to call him a senator

00:24:55.520 anymore, because I don't really think he represents the United States. But Van Hollen posts the picture,

00:25:00.540 not including the margaritas. It was Bukele who posted the pictures, including the margaritas.

00:25:05.800 But I think the most interesting takeaway from that meeting, I'm going to read you the direct quote,

00:25:10.100 because it's almost incomprehensible. You can't even believe these people. Quote,

00:25:14.500 he said he's sad every day. That was Senator Van Hollen's big takeaway, punchy quote from meeting

00:25:22.460 with the beloved Kilmar Garcia down in El Salvador. Do you know who else is sad every day? Patty Morin,

00:25:31.140 whose daughter was killed, brutally raped by a member of the same gang that this animal was a part of.

00:25:37.560 I don't hear him putting out statements for her. It's absolutely despicable. I mean, 0.97

00:25:42.740 I know at the DNC, right, Steve, these people have the American flags and at least pretended

00:25:48.740 they have some element of performative patriotism. But the party that has gone from at least trying

00:25:54.680 to pretend like they maybe don't hate America, though we know deep down they do, they're now

00:25:58.580 flying down to meet with illegal aliens who are part of criminal organizations that have killed

00:26:04.760 countless Americans. So spare me the American flags, spare me the protests, spare me the idea that

00:26:10.920 you guys care about sovereignty. The Democratic Party, I mean, this is mainstream. It's treasonous

00:26:16.920 and good luck running on it in the midterms. But that's the headline, that they're upset that

00:26:22.440 Kilmar Garcia is traumatized and sea cut. Yeah, that's the freaking point. 0.97

00:26:30.200 Sad. Natalie, good to have you back. Social media, ma'am, where do people follow you over the weekend, 0.82

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00:31:24.960 Michael Patrick Leahy, how did you all out in Tennessee, the volunteer state doing such a

00:31:36.480 great job on that school shooter and everything you're after the FBI on and the Memphis situation,

00:31:42.920 you're always breaking news. How in the hell did you get in the middle of this criminal terrorist

00:31:48.900 that we shipped to El Salvador and now the Democratic Party sent the senators down to have margaritas 0.99

00:31:54.380 with him after they got people here been torturing and raping women and preying on Hispanic and 0.97

00:32:00.360 African-American communities? How did the Tennessee star and our beloved Michael Packard Leahy get in 0.74

00:32:07.140 the middle of this story, sir? Well, we have sources all over the country and in Tennessee, and we

00:32:14.720 learned and inquired of the Tennessee Highway Patrol about an incident we discovered. Here's the facts

00:32:21.960 of the case. On the evening of December 1st, 2022, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, he's the El Salvador illegal

00:32:31.960 immigrant deported to El Salvador in March. He was driving a 2001 Chevy Suburban with eight other

00:32:41.520 individuals inside in Tennessee on I-40 just west of Nashville in Putnam County. He was observed

00:32:49.300 by the Tennessee Highway Patrol of speeding and not maintaining his lane, so they pulled him over.

00:32:56.000 When they pulled him over, they asked him to produce his driver's license. He produced an expired

00:33:01.540 temporary driver's license from Maryland, which tells you that he's an illegal alien.

00:33:08.100 So the highway patrol officer went into his car, entered the data into a computerized system called

00:33:17.140 the NCIC. That's the National Crime Information Database. It goes right to the Terrorist Assessment

00:33:26.080 Center in Virginia, and they sent back a code. And the code was—and I got a lot of this from talking

00:33:34.040 to Todd Bensman about how this works. Hey, this guy is on one of our lists. You need to get some

00:33:39.340 information from him. And they went in. They talked to him. They talked to the eight individuals there,

00:33:46.400 who apparently were unable to speak English very well, and who—they listed their names.

00:33:52.100 Of course they don't speak English very well. They're being trafficked. It's human trafficking.

00:33:56.280 They're not going to speak English. Come on, dude. 0.99

00:33:59.220 He told them—by the way, Garcia told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer he was transporting them

00:34:06.040 from Texas to Maryland for the purpose, he told them, of working for his boss, a construction business

00:34:14.980 owner who purportedly owned the vehicle they were driving in. So this caught the attention of the terrorist

00:34:21.980 center. They told the THP officer, take pictures of everybody and everything there. After that, the FBI,

00:34:32.200 after an hour and 45-minute stop, the FBI—and we've confirmed this now. We reported from a source

00:34:39.480 on Tuesday, but late last night, the Tennessee Highway Patrol confirmed with us that the FBI told them to

00:34:48.600 release Kilmar Abrego Garcia, even though the officer there suspected him of human trafficking. He filed a—what's

00:34:58.600 called a dispatch report, which Homeland Security got a few days later. And they said, oh, yes,

00:35:05.080 this is a problem. And they put them on another list to watch. But what's terrible about this is,

00:35:11.160 the FBI told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer, hey, the guy's been speeding. He's driving without a

00:35:17.480 ticket—without a license. Those are misdemeanors. What they should have done is they should have taken him

00:35:23.480 to a holding cell right away, taken all the eight individuals there, got their information,

00:35:27.960 got an interviewer, and find out who they were, where they were from, and what really was going on.

00:35:33.560 But the FBI ordered them to be released. And an hour and 45 minutes later, they were released.

00:35:38.360 Hold on. Hang on. Hang on. I want to go through the logic. Why would the FBI

00:35:44.360 override basic law enforcement procedures and immigration service and ICE procedures and border

00:35:53.480 patrol procedures? Why, in a billion years, would they sit there and say, let these guys go? What

00:36:00.520 is the logic of that? What has the FBI said about that? There's no good logic. Now, remember,

00:36:05.320 the Tennessee Highway Patrol, who we pressured to confirm the story, finally did late last night.

00:36:09.960 They called it was—they were ordered by the Biden-era FBI and that they were simply following

00:36:16.520 a, quote, standard protocol. Now, that's a bizarre protocol, I would say, when this individual had

00:36:24.120 violated two laws in the state of Tennessee and was suspected of human trafficking. I mean, put all

00:36:31.000 the facts together. They can't speak English. They can't write. They had the same address as he had

00:36:36.680 in Maryland and they had no luggage. I mean, come on. It sounds like human trafficking. And he wrote

00:36:43.320 that right in his report. But the protocol at that time for the Tennessee Highway Patrol was to, you know,

00:36:49.960 basically bow down to the order from the FBI. A big mistake all around, I think. And it leads to,

00:36:57.000 why did the FBI tell Tennessee Highway Patrol to let him go when they suspected him of human trafficking?

00:37:04.360 Now, I talked to Todd Bensman, our friend, about this. And he said, well,

00:37:07.800 he thinks the protocol was, well, you don't want to let them know that they're on some list. Well,

00:37:11.480 that's ridiculous. There was a purported potential human trafficking crime going on right there and 0.94

00:37:17.400 they let it happen. Unbelievable. Do you know, okay, what's the state of play of this right now?

00:37:23.880 Tennessee Highway Patrol is just kicking it up to the FBI. We had no control. They made a call,

00:37:28.680 which is, I'm not sure that overrides it, but let's assume if for purposes of conversation,

00:37:34.840 it does. Where does this stand now? Well, now we've got public records requests going to both

00:37:40.440 the FBI in Washington and the Tennessee Highway Patrol. They took pictures there. They have body

00:37:47.880 cam images right there. They should have the names and addresses of all the passengers. They should have

00:37:53.000 the registration of the owner of that vehicle. We want to know, Steve, who are these eight

00:38:00.200 individuals that were being transported from Maryland, from Texas to Maryland? Where are they

00:38:06.280 now? Are they alive? Were any of them women? We don't know. No, this is unbelievable. Can you believe

00:38:15.080 a U.S. Senator went down and is coddling this guy, got him out of jail and went and had margaritas with

00:38:21.080 him down in El Salvador, sir? Well, you know, Steve, the Democrats have long been on the 20 side

00:38:27.320 of 80-20 issues. And I think Senator Van Hollen is trying to drive that down to a 95-5 issue.

00:38:34.520 And I think he probably accomplished that this weekend over the past couple of days.

00:38:40.280 Listen, I'm fine. If this is who they want to defend, if they want to defend MS-13 and the

00:38:45.560 Venezuelan gang that President Trump has commanded chief trying to get out of the country,

00:38:51.080 to save women from being tortured, raped and murdered, hey, we'll take that, right? It's just

00:38:56.920 the Democratic Party is now in the fever swaths, particularly a guy like this. This guy's not

00:39:00.680 defendable. That was clearly human trafficking. They were not out for just a spin down to the

00:39:05.720 Dairy Queen. They're going from Texas to Maryland with eight folks packed into a vehicle with no

00:39:11.880 luggage, phony IDs. That's what we got to find out. This one's got to be drilled down. The Democrats

00:39:17.400 want to rally around this one. We ought to get all the facts and make sure that when they do the

00:39:22.040 embrace, they're embracing the whole cactus plant. So it's not something we want to cover,

00:39:27.800 but if we got to, we'll do it. And we'll get the Michael Patrick Leahy's who will go get the

00:39:32.440 receipts on this. All the Democrats sitting there, you think this guy's, you know, Vasco

00:39:37.160 de Gama or something. I think he's some national hero that needs to be protected. He's a scumbag

00:39:42.280 criminal with a murderous criminal gang, right? And all they do is make excuses. Well, that's not 1.00

00:39:47.240 a gang ball cap. That's a different year of the Chicago Bulls or a different mode of hat. Those,

00:39:52.520 those tattoos up his neck are not really, you know, it's every excuse. And Von Holland,

00:39:57.160 he goes down there and makes a big deal about it. At the same time, the trial is going on

00:40:01.560 of the, of the, a woman who, the mother of five children, five motherless children right now,

00:40:07.480 who is tortured, raped, and murdered in the most brutal fashion possible that her mom,

00:40:13.320 since nobody will cover it, the president of the United States have to, has to invite her to 0.91

00:40:17.240 come to the White House briefing room, which she tells the nation, and they still will not ask a

00:40:21.160 question. They sat there and heard it. This is what scumbags they are. They just don't want to like,

00:40:27.080 pretend it doesn't exist. They would not raise their hand. The one question was jumping on Caroline

00:40:32.920 Levitt about something about the president of this situation. We ought to hit him with both barrels on 0.53

00:40:36.840 this thing. If they want to own this guy, own him. But I got to tell you, the Lahey's of the world 0.99

00:40:41.240 are going to get all the facts and they're going to rub your nose in it every day. So if you want

00:40:45.320 to do it, the Democrats want to do it. AOC, you guys want to do it? Have at it. This is your boy.

00:40:49.800 Fine. You got him and we'll, we'll show the nation what he is. Because down in Tennessee,

00:40:54.840 he was trafficking human beings. Okay. Full stop. And the FBI had to insert themselves. This is how,

00:41:01.320 yo, Cash, my man, Pam Bondi, yo, when are we going to get an investigation of this? Why is

00:41:07.640 it Michael Patrick Leahy having to do all this? Why is my York is not in cuffs right now? They

00:41:13.320 invaded our country. Somebody's got to step up to the plate. I don't need a sharply worded letter

00:41:17.560 and I don't need a congressional investigation. I need a good old fashioned grand jury. Let's start

00:41:22.440 rolling some evidence in there and then start taking people to trial and lock them up.

00:41:26.120 We've asked the FBI for comment. We've heard nothing from the FBI on this. And it seems obvious

00:41:32.680 that this, all of the circumstances here point to human trafficking. I mean, you have to be pretty

00:41:38.360 much a dullard or a dishonest person to think anything otherwise. And yet the FBI ordered the Tennessee 0.97

00:41:47.000 Highway Patrol to allow him to go without any, any stop, any citation, any warning.

00:41:56.360 It's very, very troublesome. And the other question is how often did this happen?

00:41:59.960 Yeah. All the time. Note to Cash. Let's break it up. Okay. We don't need the counterterrorism

00:42:07.560 photos or how great they are. Let's break it up. Let's break it up into a million little pieces.

00:42:13.160 Put the, put the, put the law enforcement guys or the U.S. attorneys somehow and the U.S. marshals

00:42:18.200 figure out what the counterterrorism, what you do with the rest of the thing. Take the building. Let's

00:42:22.280 get rid of the jackhammers. Let's take the jackhammers and take it down and salt the earth 1.00

00:42:27.240 around it. So nothing else could ever be there. Give them a Carthaginian piece. And let's put a

00:42:31.640 little plaque. Once upon a time, a very ugly building housed very bad people that did very

00:42:37.560 terrible things to the greatest country on earth. Full stop. That's all the plaque's

00:42:41.400 got to say. Michael Patrick Leahy, where they go for your social media, sir.

00:42:45.320 Go to TennesseeStar.com, TennesseeStar.com on, on X. I'm Michael P. Leahy. We should have

00:42:51.480 the body cam video from this December 1st stop within three days. If the Tennessee Highway

00:42:57.800 Patrol is playing, playing it right. Okay, sir. Well, thank you. At least they're, they're,

00:43:04.200 they're more responsive than anybody else. Human trafficking. Human trafficking. That's 0.96

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00:44:45.000 Yes.

00:44:45.320 Okay, there are 30 pieces of silver. In the Mitt Romneys of the world, quite frankly, bro,

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00:45:32.200 two minutes after Biden was inaugurated. Matt Pottinger, Peter Navarro, Mike Pompeo,

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00:45:43.320 that the Chinese Communist Party is the legitimate government of Lao Baixing or the Chinese people.

00:45:47.720 And guess what? Lao Baixing agrees with me. So look, you separate Trump from the GOP. That's

00:45:54.040 why I'm asking. I know how you feel about the Dems. How do you feel about the GOP?

00:45:57.720 The GOP did nothing. The GOP is the same neoliberal neocons invade everywhere and have

00:46:03.480 huge tax cuts for the wealthy. This is what Trump brought to the table. This is in 14.

00:46:08.600 When I see Trump there, he's against all these other GOP politicians. He talked in another

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00:46:18.840 thing that's very thin without substance. Trump was talking about substance. He's not a polished

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00:46:34.200 most elected officials behind closed doors are not pro-Trump. And they're certainly not pro-our policies.

00:46:40.120 This is why heads have exploded the last couple of days, including your good buddy,

00:46:43.800 Sean Hannity, who's hit blown up the most, about we are going to raise taxes on the wealthy. The tax

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00:46:56.200 has a snapback. It goes from 37 back to probably 40 percent for the upper bracket and maybe even

00:47:01.880 something else for people that are millionaires. And Sean Hannity is having a total meltdown right now

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00:47:18.040 people who are Democrats and independents, including so many young African Americans,

00:47:22.680 are listening to Trump finally because he's talking in a different nomenclature and his policies are

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00:49:01.720 today. Field of Greens. Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell, they're writing stories about my brother,

00:49:09.880 Mike Lindell. You're whining in a courtroom, you're crying in a courtroom. That's not the Michael,

00:49:14.360 Michael Lindell I know is tough as boot leather. Brother, you've been in many, you've been in worse

00:49:18.600 jams in this. What the hell? What the hell's going on, man? On, on, on, on, on, on Easter weekend. 0.77

00:49:26.840 He has risen. Come on, come on, bro. Is the fake news, is the fake news true or is the fake news fake?

00:49:34.360 They are fake everybody, but I will say this. I did not, the lawyer for the voting machine company

00:49:41.880 did not say that my pillows were lumpy. So I was able to keep any, any feelings I had down. Okay.

00:49:50.040 But they, yeah, it seems like Steve, every time I show up to these hearings or these depositions,

00:49:55.880 they pull stuff out of there and make stuff up. And you guys, I did, I was not weeping

00:50:01.880 and, and begging for mercy or whatever they had going on out there. That was, it's completely lies.

00:50:08.440 I'm going to keep fighting to secure our elections. I don't care what they do to me out there. These,

00:50:13.560 this law fair, I did tell the judge this law fair is they're trying to ruin me, your honor.

00:50:19.400 And so they came out, Mike is, Mike is weeping. He said he's in ruins and they're going to do

00:50:24.760 anything they came first. They tried to say, look at, he's an angry Christian when we call his pillows 1.00

00:50:29.880 lumpies. Now they're saying, you know, he's just crying. If you, if you, if you try and help your

00:50:35.960 country, you too could be Mike Lindell in tears. It's all lies, Steve, all lies. We're here. We're

00:50:42.600 standing. We're still fighting. And that's the way it's going to be.

00:50:48.040 Mike, uh, to close out today, next hour, it's going to be incredible. Patrick K. O'Donnell is

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00:51:01.240 ride. What it means for today. Also, we're going to tee up the shot heard around the world in

00:51:07.160 Lexington and Concord, which will take place tomorrow. Mike Lindell, can you please sell me

00:51:12.440 a set of sheets, sir? You got, you got sheets, but I'm going to add one to it for this weekend,

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00:52:03.560 you guys, I want to thank you for all your support. It's a great weekend, you guys. Everybody have a

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Bannon's War Room - April 18, 2025

Episode 4424： The New York Times Fears The New Normal

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