Bannon's War Room - April 18, 2025


Episode 4424: The New York Times Fears The New Normal


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

173.1533

Word Count

9,503

Sentence Count

677

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

On today's show, Steve and Natalie are joined by special guest Patrick K. O'Donnell to discuss the growing problem of Sanctuary Cities, and how they can be held accountable for it. Plus, a call-in question from a listener about the War in Afghanistan.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Have a great weekend. Have a beautiful Easter Sunday. Talk to you Monday, Steve.
00:00:05.380 Thank you. Thank you, sir. It's Good Friday. Thank you for being here for our afternoon,
00:00:11.180 early evening show. In the second hour, Patrick K. O'Donnell is going to join me,
00:00:16.340 and it's going to be very, very special. This is not just Good Friday, the most solemn day
00:00:22.100 in the calendar of the Christian and Catholic Church in the Orthodox Christian Church. It's
00:00:26.980 also the eve of the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, which we'll be doing Lexington
00:00:33.700 and Concord on the morning show tomorrow morning or Saturday show and tying it to what events
00:00:38.760 are happening now and where you come in. This audience comes in both in the history of what
00:00:44.980 happened to our country back then and people are taking action and what's going on today.
00:00:49.360 Tonight is the 250th anniversary of the ride of Paul Revere, the midnight ride, and Patrick K.
00:00:54.880 O'Donnell will be joining us and giving all the context and history. You'll want to stick
00:00:59.280 around for that because it's very special. It's only Patrick K. O'Donnell can do. We've
00:01:03.260 got an incredible call open. Just an amazing day for news on every different vertical. Let's
00:01:07.680 go ahead and play it. Natalie, I'm just going to join me on the other side.
00:01:10.880 Sir, when are we going to see accountability and consequences for sanctuary state and local
00:01:17.020 officials that are violating AUSC 1324 by harboring illegal aliens? As well as, isn't it kind of
00:01:24.640 bizarre that Chris Van Hollen tried to smuggle and facilitate the reentry of this illegal alien,
00:01:31.640 also in violation of AUSC 1324?
00:01:33.620 We also haven't heard any stories about the Logan Act this time around for whatever reason.
00:01:36.420 So, it's a great question and a knowledgeable question. I don't get a lot of questions around
00:01:46.060 here where people are citing the Immigration and Nationality Act. So, that's great. You're
00:01:50.940 exactly right that the sanctuary cities are engaged in multiple criminal violations, harboring,
00:01:57.580 smuggling, inducing, obstructing justice, obstructing official proceedings, and many other crimes.
00:02:03.420 And this is something that the Department of Justice is taking a very hard look at. I will
00:02:09.000 just say that it is my view, the view of this administration, that these cities are engaged
00:02:15.180 in systemic criminal violations, and that they are engaged in a scheme to nullify and obstruct
00:02:21.780 the duly enacted laws of the United States of America. And I would, again, note, when you
00:02:26.080 talk about morality, talk about decency. Sanctuary cities shield criminal illegal aliens from
00:02:32.280 removal. We repeatedly go into communities and arrest illegal aliens who were previously
00:02:37.040 in custody, that they refused to turn over, that were sent back onto the street, that have
00:02:42.160 subsequently raped or abused a child. I just want you to think about that for a second.
00:02:46.880 You have sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, like Boston, like Chicago, where illegal aliens
00:02:52.400 will be booked, arrested, placed into city or state custody, charged with serious crimes.
00:02:59.160 ICE will ask them to be turned over for deportation. They will willfully release them back onto the
00:03:04.920 street, obstructing federal law enforcement, doing so at a time and place of their choosing,
00:03:09.760 making sure that we don't know where and when they will be set free. And then those illegal aliens
00:03:14.600 will go out and take someone's son or someone's daughter and abuse and rape them.
00:03:18.960 So we came here yesterday to sort of begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might
00:03:25.380 take to end the war, to try to figure out very soon, and I'm talking about a matter of days,
00:03:30.140 not a matter of weeks, whether or not this is the war that can be ended. If it can, we're prepared
00:03:34.920 to do whatever we can to facilitate that and make sure that it happens, that it ends in a durable
00:03:40.020 and just way. If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen,
00:03:45.360 then I think the president's probably at a point where he's going to say, well, we're done.
00:03:49.900 You know, we'll do what we can on the margins. We'll be ready to help whenever you're ready to
00:03:54.060 have peace. But but we're not going to continue with this endeavor for weeks and months on end.
00:03:59.680 So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days,
00:04:03.400 whether or not this is doable in the over the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's hot,
00:04:09.540 then we'll have to. We have other priorities to focus on as well. If for some reason one of the
00:04:15.840 two parties makes it very difficult, we're just going to say you're foolish, you're fools,
00:04:21.660 you're horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass. But hopefully we won't have to do that.
00:04:27.480 And Marco is right in saying that we're getting we want to see it end.
00:04:32.520 So diplomatically speaking, what do you make of this tactic of threatening to just move on from
00:04:38.080 the peace talks? Alex, it's hard to say. I mean, you never know whether they're bluffing,
00:04:46.380 whether they're just mistaken, whether they don't really care. The language is very imprecise. I mean,
00:04:54.140 I don't know exactly what moving on means. Does that mean we're not going to be a party
00:04:58.460 to the peace talks? Does that mean we're not going to give aid to Ukraine anymore? It's really
00:05:04.020 unclear. And yes, as you mentioned, President Trump famously said he would end the war in 24 hours.
00:05:10.700 Now, they're finding it's a lot more complex than they thought. Now, by the way, they did. I saw just
00:05:17.740 moments ago, they announced that they signed a memorandum of understanding with Ukraine about
00:05:22.180 access to rare earth minerals and some mutual Ukrainian and American fund for reconstruction
00:05:28.620 in Ukraine, which is a good thing. We have some breaking news. NBC News has learned the acting
00:05:33.740 commissioner of the IRS, Gary Shapely, is being removed amid a power struggle at the highest
00:05:40.020 levels of the White House. Let's go right to NBC's Yamiche Alcindor, who's covering this story for us.
00:05:44.900 Yamiche, what's happening here? What can you tell us?
00:05:47.740 What we know is that the acting head of the IRS, as you said, is being replaced by the Treasury
00:05:52.760 Secretary because he believes, the Treasury Secretary believes that he was installed,
00:05:57.220 the acting IRS secretary was installed behind his back, essentially, because Elon Musk wanted him
00:06:03.240 there. He complained, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett, to President Trump, saying that he did
00:06:07.680 not want that acting IRS secretary to be there, or excursion or be there. And as a result, his
00:06:13.180 replacement is going to be coming in. He's the deputy Treasury Secretary. This is all really, in some
00:06:17.720 ways, feeling like maybe inside baseball. The big bottom line here is that you have a power struggle
00:06:22.400 between Elon Musk and an agency head. And this is really coming as we know that Elon Musk has really
00:06:28.680 had issues with a number of agency heads, including Marco Rubio at the Secretary of State and other heads
00:06:33.940 of agencies. That's him and the Department of Government Efficiency have essentially tried to take over
00:06:38.200 roles and taken over decisions that agency heads are making. Now, the White House is out with a statement
00:06:43.400 that they provided to the New York Times. That statement says, in part, from Caroline, from Caroline
00:06:48.720 Levitt, she says, in part, it's no secret President Trump has put together a team of people who are
00:06:54.420 incredibly passionate about the issues impacting our country. Disagreements are no more part of any
00:06:59.200 healthy policy process. And ultimately, everyone knows they serve at the pleasure of the president.
00:07:04.220 So really interesting that the White House, in some ways, is actually acknowledging that this was a
00:07:08.500 power struggle. I mean, it shows you that there's going to be, in some ways, more to come of this
00:07:12.700 as Elon Musk and Doge continue to make decisions and its agency heads really try to rustle back some
00:07:17.620 of that power. Alex. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're
00:07:29.000 going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the
00:07:35.560 people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
00:07:39.760 tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to
00:07:42.680 happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish
00:07:50.280 that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:57.220 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:03.400 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:08:10.860 Friday, 18 April, in the year of early 2025, another furious news day on many huge developing
00:08:19.480 stories and news stories. As I said with Eric Bolling, by the way, so it's the 250th anniversary
00:08:26.080 this evening of the historic ride of Paul Revere to warn the colonists about the impending
00:08:33.900 military action of the British Expeditionary Force. Tomorrow is the 250th anniversary of
00:08:40.580 the shot heard around the world, both at Lexington Common and then later at Concord Bridge.
00:08:46.400 And we will be doing both. Patrick K. and Donald and I break it all down later on the 6 o'clock
00:08:52.880 hour. And then I will be on tomorrow with other guests to break things down and to be live and
00:09:00.360 do some of the ceremony, some of the commemoration. Marco Rubio, a couple of things before we get
00:09:06.340 Natalie on. Marco Rubio, so a big development coming out of, with everything else going on and
00:09:14.680 now engage in this war, this economic war with the Chinese Communist Party. Folks, understand
00:09:20.540 something. We're really have embargoed everything with the terrorists where they are. We've embargoed
00:09:27.320 essentially everything coming from China. That is a big deal. And the rest that's going on,
00:09:33.760 working on the Russian rapprochement, et cetera, this kind of peace deal or ceasefire, whatever
00:09:39.080 you want to call it, around the Ukraine, they've kind of got, I think, a general sense of at least
00:09:47.760 what the Russians want and surely what the Ukrainians want. I just don't think that there's
00:09:52.600 enough urgency on at least the Ukrainian side to want to bring this thing to a head. And I think
00:10:00.200 Secretary Rubio is justified. And I can tell you he's not kidding around because before he would say
00:10:05.180 that, he ran that by the President of the United States. I think there's limited, very limited
00:10:10.780 patience for this. And I think that if people don't want to move on, the United States is going to move
00:10:17.260 on and there's going to be no more money, no more arms, zero, and let Europe have at it. If the
00:10:24.020 Europeans are prepared to commit and put up that kind of, those kind of resources and potential troops,
00:10:29.200 then, you know, this thing could drag on. But I can tell you the French don't have the money,
00:10:35.840 nor the political will, nor the people in France have the interests. Same thing in the United
00:10:39.600 Kingdom. Each one of those are in a pretty bad financial shape. After years of overborrowing,
00:10:46.440 they all, I think, could potentially have sovereign debt crises. Their people right now are scrambling
00:10:52.240 about social service in France. They're at each other's throat about where these cuts are going to come
00:10:55.980 from. So the Ukrainians, as we've said on the show forever and ever, unless the Americans are
00:11:03.760 prepared to just give unlimited resources. And remember, it's been up to $60 billion a year. I
00:11:09.240 think President Trump says we're in 350. We calculate 250. The worst case, I think, is 175 to 180. I think
00:11:17.180 even Zelensky said, hey, I see it's supposed to be 175. I only got 60 of it. If that's cut off,
00:11:25.180 I don't think with the big, beautiful bill and what's happening on the budget side, and here
00:11:31.340 they're arguing about tax increases. And look, I don't want to increase taxes on people just to
00:11:35.400 increase them, but the upper bracket is going to have to go to 40% to somehow be part of filling
00:11:41.220 this gap, this massive gap on, I don't know, War Room's calling for a two and a half trillion
00:11:46.580 deficit this fiscal year, 2.5 trillion, given where I think tax revenues coming in and expenses
00:11:55.580 are. So there's no more 60 billion. I'm not sure he could get 6 billion, 5 billion. We would
00:12:00.600 fight tooth and nail just to make sure they got zero. Reality's got us. Uncle Sugar is gone.
00:12:08.020 Again, the President Trump's attitude and his cut, and this is why if Karl Rove, the thing
00:12:14.000 about Ezra Klein, Karl Rove and David Brooks, all part of the establishment, one's a little
00:12:21.080 more progressive, just a little bit more. Brooks and Rove are epitomes of the conservative.
00:12:29.180 You've seen David Brooks on TV for years. You've seen Karl Rove all the time since Bush 43.
00:12:33.720 They're breaking. Ezra Klein calls it, what he called this morning, we did the cold open
00:12:40.720 with Ezra Klein, it's the crisis is here. The crisis is here. David Brooks essentially
00:12:48.460 calling people to go to the streets, that now we have to make our move. We have to shut
00:12:52.520 this thing down. And Karl Rove's sitting there going, it's going to end badly. People are tired
00:12:58.100 of Trump already within 100 days. What they're tired of, Karl, is phony Republicans like you
00:13:07.520 that yammered for tax cuts for the wealthy, ran up $9 trillion in two wars that you guys
00:13:16.440 had as wars of choice. Yes, the Afghanistan war was a war of choice. You could have gone
00:13:20.800 hunted down Osama bin Laden and eradicate the Taliban. The paramilitary guys didn't have
00:13:28.080 turned over 30 days. To stay there for the democracy project, to stay in Iraq for the
00:13:33.580 democracy project, $9 trillion, $10,000 dead, $40,000 to $50,000 wounded, and I'm not counting
00:13:39.200 the contractors, the Tej Gills of the world that they got off the payroll and put on contracts.
00:13:45.580 Bush, the guy you work for is the worst president in the history of this country, and I include
00:13:50.040 James Buchanan in that category, the worst. So you're tired of it? We don't give a damn
00:13:56.120 what you're tired of because, bro, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're just getting revved
00:13:59.120 up. President Trump's on a roll right now, taking them all on, hammering down every vertical,
00:14:06.260 and his folks love it. So if you think it's going to end badly, fine. Everybody's getting
00:14:13.580 free country, get an opinion. But President Trump's not going to back off. He doesn't care
00:14:18.060 what Rupert Murdoch has to say. Shows you about Fox and the Wall Street Journal. They're
00:14:23.700 100% against populist nationalism. And one of the reasons is their heads are blowing up
00:14:29.580 because guess what, old man Murdoch? You got a 40% tax rate coming at you, bro. Suck on
00:14:36.400 that. Grover Norcrest, Karl Rove. I think it's going to end badly. And I'm not so sure it's
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00:16:11.280 In the war room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:19.360 Can we put up the, um, by the way, I'm going to get to the, I'm going to get in a little while to the, um,
00:16:24.960 to the, um, IRS. Elon Musk having a quite bad run, uh, here recently. I think it's going to get a little
00:16:34.180 worse. Uh, and you saw this, this story of the IRS is a huge story, as we say, and I'll give you the
00:16:41.000 underpinnings of it in a moment. Uh, Natalie Winters, you're here. You also want to comment.
00:16:46.420 Carl Rove, this is what I love. In fact, I put up on Getter, uh, in the early morning hours, I think,
00:16:53.600 uh, of this morning when Brooks' thing came out that, uh, you know, we done broke, we done broke
00:16:59.600 David Brooks real good. He's, he's a broken man. He's calling for a national mass movement
00:17:06.560 of law firms, university professors, the credential class. Cause he says Trump is, you know, is in a
00:17:14.340 comprehensive power move to destroy it all. Every institution that he holds a dear. Uh, want me
00:17:21.440 through your, your thoughts on that. You've also got a, he's tucked in there, a younger generation
00:17:25.840 also in this. What do you think about David Brooks? Well, I guess the, uh, Trump derangement
00:17:32.140 syndrome truly has metastasized, but I think that this piece is quite compelling for a lot of
00:17:38.560 reasons, because I think it affirms a lot of what we've been discussing here in the war room,
00:17:43.160 not just the stage four meltdowns, the color revolution theory, the importance of civil uprising
00:17:49.000 protests, and in some cases, very violent protests at that. But if you look at the key researcher
00:17:55.180 that he cites throughout this piece, making sort of the argument as to why they need to engage in
00:18:01.680 this national civic uprising, by the way, pay attention to the words that they use because
00:18:07.080 it used to be mass demonstrations. It used to be nonviolent protests. It used to be peaceful
00:18:12.240 protests. Now they're calling for a civil uprising. Just put that one in the book, but they're
00:18:18.400 citing Erica Chenoweth and people may recall, what was it two weeks ago? The story that we broke,
00:18:23.880 it gained, I think, tens of millions of views across platforms about how you guessed it,
00:18:28.840 Harvard in conjunction with USAID and the state department were working to fund these new
00:18:34.840 resistance labs in concordance with democratic members of Congress, the same ones that I guess
00:18:40.140 are back channeling with democratic AGs. So it just sort of shows you that it's the same pattern
00:18:45.780 recognition whereby it's the same people who, when you really start to peel the layers back,
00:18:49.940 are also the same people who, for the last four years, have been intricately linked and involved
00:18:54.740 in the lawfare against President Trump and have been on sort of the receiving end
00:18:58.660 of what I would really call the global empire, at least the construct of it, and the minds of people
00:19:04.620 like David Brooks. And frankly, Steve, when I was reading this article talking about the sort of
00:19:09.380 divide between what Trumpism seeks to oppose or tear down, which is the established world order,
00:19:15.780 the sort of neoliberal, neocon, you know, rules-based international order that they're talking about,
00:19:20.680 which they want to defend, which I think the fact that war room is ascendant in viewership and the
00:19:24.920 New York Times and the Washington Post are failing shows you whose lived experience,
00:19:30.040 whose lived reality is actually more true and more prevalent. But I think the most interesting point
00:19:35.500 that I would make is that I see very similar parallels to, I think, how these legacy media outlets
00:19:40.300 covered the rise of China. What do I mean by that? It was Joe Biden, right, who wrote a very notorious
00:19:45.980 op-ed in 2008 saying that the rise of China is great for the United States. It's great for the
00:19:51.460 American people. But what it really comes down to, and I think you see this recurring theme,
00:19:56.340 particularly poignant in this David Brooks piece, the concept or the construct of the version of
00:20:01.100 American people that they're talking about is not people like me. It's not people like you. It's not
00:20:05.840 our audience. It's a very, you know, small beltway elite, the group who is on the receiving end,
00:20:11.380 not just of the USAID contracts, that's perhaps too on the nose, but just of this globalist ruling
00:20:17.100 class. And they're doing the same propaganda where they're sort of doing this limited hangout version
00:20:21.880 of it. But I just think our audience should really, really be paying attention to the sort of
00:20:26.640 analytical aspect of it, this idea that they're now calling for an uprising on the heels of a bunch
00:20:31.920 of violent protests that frankly didn't do anything and didn't really work. So they're stuck in a
00:20:36.700 corner. You know, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't know what to do and
00:20:39.960 they're lashing out.
00:20:45.620 How important is it that you think that these public intellectuals like Karl Rove and David Brooks
00:20:50.340 are now starting to basically be shattered, look like they're having nervous breakdowns,
00:20:55.360 but also calling for, you know, Karl Rove's not. He's saying, hey, this is going to end badly for
00:21:00.460 Trump. So he's implying something like this, but the David Brooks actually uses the line that we
00:21:05.800 need a mass mobilization effort of all these institutions from law firms to universities to
00:21:12.380 all of it against Trump. Well, I don't know if I would call these people public intellectuals,
00:21:18.560 maybe pseudo intellectuals at that. There are, of course, some people on the left and establishment,
00:21:22.920 right, who I at least respect intellectually. I don't know if Karl Rove is necessarily one of those,
00:21:28.720 but I think you can sort of link it to what you're seeing going on in the White House,
00:21:31.780 right, in terms of this whole new media initiative and just the absolute rejection,
00:21:36.880 the apoplectic nature of sort of the establishment credentialed institutional class that sits in there
00:21:42.020 that is really upset at my face being there at a bunch of other outlets. I mean, put it this way,
00:21:46.980 they will give more nuance and will probably give a warmer welcome to MS-13 and convicted wife
00:21:54.980 beaters and gang members and illegal aliens than they will new media, than they will you, than they
00:22:01.060 will our audience, right? It's this is the same group of people, right? We can go after the media
00:22:06.240 angle because I think that's sort of the front row, the flank, the Praetorian Guard. But these are the
00:22:10.600 same people who for what, how long told the American people that we have to accept being jammed
00:22:16.640 down our throats, tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens replacing us, taking our jobs,
00:22:22.440 we have to train their replacements. And now all of a sudden, these pseudo-intellectuals get a little
00:22:27.700 bit of competition because now it is actually, shall we say, free and fair trade in the sense that
00:22:33.080 there's no censorship. All of those guardrails have been stripped off. Now no one cares what they have
00:22:38.020 to say because they've always been wrong. They've just rested upon this global censorship complex,
00:22:43.560 the newsguards of the world to buttress their ideas. They're beyond and above reproach. That's why
00:22:48.240 that's why they hide behind these foreign-funded think tanks. But now that they actually have
00:22:52.860 competition, that they have shows like War Room, right, the equivalent of, you know, importing an
00:22:56.860 H-1B visa, they actually can't hang. They don't like it. And that's what they've been doing to the
00:23:01.660 American people for how long? For years. And they say that we're nativists and we're xenophobes for
00:23:06.700 daring to criticize it. So they can try all they want to terraform and manipulate the American
00:23:12.380 populace into accepting their ideas. But the difference is that people will show up and
00:23:18.140 support President Trump. People show up and listen to War Room voluntarily. They don't need to be
00:23:22.860 paid protesters. They don't need to be whipped up with USAID, State Department-funded propaganda
00:23:28.060 to actually believe something. And now that the core of it is that now that that entire censorship
00:23:35.040 ecosystem and really the globalist superstructure and power structure to its core, which people like
00:23:40.720 Mike Benz have done wonderful work exposing, now that the wheels are spinning off that, these people,
00:23:46.320 it is a sink or swim moment. And I think that they're realizing that they have been living on
00:23:51.580 borrowed time for a very, very long time because their ideas are extremely unpopular. And without
00:23:57.600 the censorship, no one cares what you have to say, Karl Rove. And if it weren't for idiots like you,
00:24:02.300 I probably wouldn't have been so incentivized at age, what, 19 to get involved in all of this,
00:24:07.440 because the truth is actually not that hard to share if you aren't being paid by a bunch of
00:24:12.360 globalist, you know, neo-Marxist corporations.
00:24:16.580 What do you think about the senator from Maryland going down and having a margarita with someone,
00:24:23.840 and we're going to have Michael Patrick Leahy up in a little while, about a guy that obviously was a
00:24:28.620 child trafficker, or I shouldn't say child trafficker, human trafficker, ma'am?
00:24:35.160 Well, look, I think Kilmar Garcia would probably get a warmer welcome in the White House briefing room
00:24:40.420 or the New York Times offices or the Washington Post offices than I would. And I'm not even kidding
00:24:46.200 when I say that. And apparently, Democratic senators are willing to fly down. And by the way,
00:24:51.340 the best part of it, Steve, Senator Van Hollen, I don't really even want to call him a senator
00:24:55.520 anymore, because I don't really think he represents the United States. But Van Hollen posts the picture,
00:25:00.540 not including the margaritas. It was Bukele who posted the pictures, including the margaritas.
00:25:05.800 But I think the most interesting takeaway from that meeting, I'm going to read you the direct quote,
00:25:10.100 because it's almost incomprehensible. You can't even believe these people. Quote,
00:25:14.500 he said he's sad every day. That was Senator Van Hollen's big takeaway, punchy quote from meeting
00:25:22.460 with the beloved Kilmar Garcia down in El Salvador. Do you know who else is sad every day? Patty Morin,
00:25:31.140 whose daughter was killed, brutally raped by a member of the same gang that this animal was a part of.
00:25:37.560 I don't hear him putting out statements for her. It's absolutely despicable. I mean,
00:25:42.740 I know at the DNC, right, Steve, these people have the American flags and at least pretended
00:25:48.740 they have some element of performative patriotism. But the party that has gone from at least trying
00:25:54.680 to pretend like they maybe don't hate America, though we know deep down they do, they're now
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00:26:04.760 countless Americans. So spare me the American flags, spare me the protests, spare me the idea that
00:26:10.920 you guys care about sovereignty. The Democratic Party, I mean, this is mainstream. It's treasonous
00:26:16.920 and good luck running on it in the midterms. But that's the headline, that they're upset that
00:26:22.440 Kilmar Garcia is traumatized and sea cut. Yeah, that's the freaking point.
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00:31:24.960 Michael Patrick Leahy, how did you all out in Tennessee, the volunteer state doing such a
00:31:36.480 great job on that school shooter and everything you're after the FBI on and the Memphis situation,
00:31:42.920 you're always breaking news. How in the hell did you get in the middle of this criminal terrorist
00:31:48.900 that we shipped to El Salvador and now the Democratic Party sent the senators down to have margaritas
00:31:54.380 with him after they got people here been torturing and raping women and preying on Hispanic and
00:32:00.360 African-American communities? How did the Tennessee star and our beloved Michael Packard Leahy get in
00:32:07.140 the middle of this story, sir? Well, we have sources all over the country and in Tennessee, and we
00:32:14.720 learned and inquired of the Tennessee Highway Patrol about an incident we discovered. Here's the facts
00:32:21.960 of the case. On the evening of December 1st, 2022, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, he's the El Salvador illegal
00:32:31.960 immigrant deported to El Salvador in March. He was driving a 2001 Chevy Suburban with eight other
00:32:41.520 individuals inside in Tennessee on I-40 just west of Nashville in Putnam County. He was observed
00:32:49.300 by the Tennessee Highway Patrol of speeding and not maintaining his lane, so they pulled him over.
00:32:56.000 When they pulled him over, they asked him to produce his driver's license. He produced an expired
00:33:01.540 temporary driver's license from Maryland, which tells you that he's an illegal alien.
00:33:08.100 So the highway patrol officer went into his car, entered the data into a computerized system called
00:33:17.140 the NCIC. That's the National Crime Information Database. It goes right to the Terrorist Assessment
00:33:26.080 Center in Virginia, and they sent back a code. And the code was—and I got a lot of this from talking
00:33:34.040 to Todd Bensman about how this works. Hey, this guy is on one of our lists. You need to get some
00:33:39.340 information from him. And they went in. They talked to him. They talked to the eight individuals there,
00:33:46.400 who apparently were unable to speak English very well, and who—they listed their names.
00:33:52.100 Of course they don't speak English very well. They're being trafficked. It's human trafficking.
00:33:56.280 They're not going to speak English. Come on, dude.
00:33:59.220 He told them—by the way, Garcia told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer he was transporting them
00:34:06.040 from Texas to Maryland for the purpose, he told them, of working for his boss, a construction business
00:34:14.980 owner who purportedly owned the vehicle they were driving in. So this caught the attention of the terrorist
00:34:21.980 center. They told the THP officer, take pictures of everybody and everything there. After that, the FBI,
00:34:32.200 after an hour and 45-minute stop, the FBI—and we've confirmed this now. We reported from a source
00:34:39.480 on Tuesday, but late last night, the Tennessee Highway Patrol confirmed with us that the FBI told them to
00:34:48.600 release Kilmar Abrego Garcia, even though the officer there suspected him of human trafficking. He filed a—what's
00:34:58.600 called a dispatch report, which Homeland Security got a few days later. And they said, oh, yes,
00:35:05.080 this is a problem. And they put them on another list to watch. But what's terrible about this is,
00:35:11.160 the FBI told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer, hey, the guy's been speeding. He's driving without a
00:35:17.480 ticket—without a license. Those are misdemeanors. What they should have done is they should have taken him
00:35:23.480 to a holding cell right away, taken all the eight individuals there, got their information,
00:35:27.960 got an interviewer, and find out who they were, where they were from, and what really was going on.
00:35:33.560 But the FBI ordered them to be released. And an hour and 45 minutes later, they were released.
00:35:38.360 Hold on. Hang on. Hang on. I want to go through the logic. Why would the FBI
00:35:44.360 override basic law enforcement procedures and immigration service and ICE procedures and border
00:35:53.480 patrol procedures? Why, in a billion years, would they sit there and say, let these guys go? What
00:36:00.520 is the logic of that? What has the FBI said about that? There's no good logic. Now, remember,
00:36:05.320 the Tennessee Highway Patrol, who we pressured to confirm the story, finally did late last night.
00:36:09.960 They called it was—they were ordered by the Biden-era FBI and that they were simply following
00:36:16.520 a, quote, standard protocol. Now, that's a bizarre protocol, I would say, when this individual had
00:36:24.120 violated two laws in the state of Tennessee and was suspected of human trafficking. I mean, put all
00:36:31.000 the facts together. They can't speak English. They can't write. They had the same address as he had
00:36:36.680 in Maryland and they had no luggage. I mean, come on. It sounds like human trafficking. And he wrote
00:36:43.320 that right in his report. But the protocol at that time for the Tennessee Highway Patrol was to, you know,
00:36:49.960 basically bow down to the order from the FBI. A big mistake all around, I think. And it leads to,
00:36:57.000 why did the FBI tell Tennessee Highway Patrol to let him go when they suspected him of human trafficking?
00:37:04.360 Now, I talked to Todd Bensman, our friend, about this. And he said, well,
00:37:07.800 he thinks the protocol was, well, you don't want to let them know that they're on some list. Well,
00:37:11.480 that's ridiculous. There was a purported potential human trafficking crime going on right there and
00:37:17.400 they let it happen. Unbelievable. Do you know, okay, what's the state of play of this right now?
00:37:23.880 Tennessee Highway Patrol is just kicking it up to the FBI. We had no control. They made a call,
00:37:28.680 which is, I'm not sure that overrides it, but let's assume if for purposes of conversation,
00:37:34.840 it does. Where does this stand now? Well, now we've got public records requests going to both
00:37:40.440 the FBI in Washington and the Tennessee Highway Patrol. They took pictures there. They have body
00:37:47.880 cam images right there. They should have the names and addresses of all the passengers. They should have
00:37:53.000 the registration of the owner of that vehicle. We want to know, Steve, who are these eight
00:38:00.200 individuals that were being transported from Maryland, from Texas to Maryland? Where are they
00:38:06.280 now? Are they alive? Were any of them women? We don't know. No, this is unbelievable. Can you believe
00:38:15.080 a U.S. Senator went down and is coddling this guy, got him out of jail and went and had margaritas with
00:38:21.080 him down in El Salvador, sir? Well, you know, Steve, the Democrats have long been on the 20 side
00:38:27.320 of 80-20 issues. And I think Senator Van Hollen is trying to drive that down to a 95-5 issue.
00:38:34.520 And I think he probably accomplished that this weekend over the past couple of days.
00:38:40.280 Listen, I'm fine. If this is who they want to defend, if they want to defend MS-13 and the
00:38:45.560 Venezuelan gang that President Trump has commanded chief trying to get out of the country,
00:38:51.080 to save women from being tortured, raped and murdered, hey, we'll take that, right? It's just
00:38:56.920 the Democratic Party is now in the fever swaths, particularly a guy like this. This guy's not
00:39:00.680 defendable. That was clearly human trafficking. They were not out for just a spin down to the
00:39:05.720 Dairy Queen. They're going from Texas to Maryland with eight folks packed into a vehicle with no
00:39:11.880 luggage, phony IDs. That's what we got to find out. This one's got to be drilled down. The Democrats
00:39:17.400 want to rally around this one. We ought to get all the facts and make sure that when they do the
00:39:22.040 embrace, they're embracing the whole cactus plant. So it's not something we want to cover,
00:39:27.800 but if we got to, we'll do it. And we'll get the Michael Patrick Leahy's who will go get the
00:39:32.440 receipts on this. All the Democrats sitting there, you think this guy's, you know, Vasco
00:39:37.160 de Gama or something. I think he's some national hero that needs to be protected. He's a scumbag
00:39:42.280 criminal with a murderous criminal gang, right? And all they do is make excuses. Well, that's not
00:39:47.240 a gang ball cap. That's a different year of the Chicago Bulls or a different mode of hat. Those,
00:39:52.520 those tattoos up his neck are not really, you know, it's every excuse. And Von Holland,
00:39:57.160 he goes down there and makes a big deal about it. At the same time, the trial is going on
00:40:01.560 of the, of the, a woman who, the mother of five children, five motherless children right now,
00:40:07.480 who is tortured, raped, and murdered in the most brutal fashion possible that her mom,
00:40:13.320 since nobody will cover it, the president of the United States have to, has to invite her to
00:40:17.240 come to the White House briefing room, which she tells the nation, and they still will not ask a
00:40:21.160 question. They sat there and heard it. This is what scumbags they are. They just don't want to like,
00:40:27.080 pretend it doesn't exist. They would not raise their hand. The one question was jumping on Caroline
00:40:32.920 Levitt about something about the president of this situation. We ought to hit him with both barrels on
00:40:36.840 this thing. If they want to own this guy, own him. But I got to tell you, the Lahey's of the world
00:40:41.240 are going to get all the facts and they're going to rub your nose in it every day. So if you want
00:40:45.320 to do it, the Democrats want to do it. AOC, you guys want to do it? Have at it. This is your boy.
00:40:49.800 Fine. You got him and we'll, we'll show the nation what he is. Because down in Tennessee,
00:40:54.840 he was trafficking human beings. Okay. Full stop. And the FBI had to insert themselves. This is how,
00:41:01.320 yo, Cash, my man, Pam Bondi, yo, when are we going to get an investigation of this? Why is
00:41:07.640 it Michael Patrick Leahy having to do all this? Why is my York is not in cuffs right now? They
00:41:13.320 invaded our country. Somebody's got to step up to the plate. I don't need a sharply worded letter
00:41:17.560 and I don't need a congressional investigation. I need a good old fashioned grand jury. Let's start
00:41:22.440 rolling some evidence in there and then start taking people to trial and lock them up.
00:41:26.120 We've asked the FBI for comment. We've heard nothing from the FBI on this. And it seems obvious
00:41:32.680 that this, all of the circumstances here point to human trafficking. I mean, you have to be pretty
00:41:38.360 much a dullard or a dishonest person to think anything otherwise. And yet the FBI ordered the Tennessee
00:41:47.000 Highway Patrol to allow him to go without any, any stop, any citation, any warning.
00:41:56.360 It's very, very troublesome. And the other question is how often did this happen?
00:41:59.960 Yeah. All the time. Note to Cash. Let's break it up. Okay. We don't need the counterterrorism
00:42:07.560 photos or how great they are. Let's break it up. Let's break it up into a million little pieces.
00:42:13.160 Put the, put the, put the law enforcement guys or the U.S. attorneys somehow and the U.S. marshals
00:42:18.200 figure out what the counterterrorism, what you do with the rest of the thing. Take the building. Let's
00:42:22.280 get rid of the jackhammers. Let's take the jackhammers and take it down and salt the earth
00:42:27.240 around it. So nothing else could ever be there. Give them a Carthaginian piece. And let's put a
00:42:31.640 little plaque. Once upon a time, a very ugly building housed very bad people that did very
00:42:37.560 terrible things to the greatest country on earth. Full stop. That's all the plaque's
00:42:41.400 got to say. Michael Patrick Leahy, where they go for your social media, sir.
00:42:45.320 Go to TennesseeStar.com, TennesseeStar.com on, on X. I'm Michael P. Leahy. We should have
00:42:51.480 the body cam video from this December 1st stop within three days. If the Tennessee Highway
00:42:57.800 Patrol is playing, playing it right. Okay, sir. Well, thank you. At least they're, they're,
00:43:04.200 they're more responsive than anybody else. Human trafficking. Human trafficking. That's
00:43:12.120 who they're defending. That's who they're flying down to have a margarita with. Lovely. Short break.
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00:44:45.000 Yes.
00:44:45.320 Okay, there are 30 pieces of silver. In the Mitt Romneys of the world, quite frankly, bro,
00:44:50.120 you don't get a pass because you're too freaking stupid to ask the hard questions that had to be
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00:45:32.200 two minutes after Biden was inaugurated. Matt Pottinger, Peter Navarro, Mike Pompeo,
00:45:38.360 myself, and those three were government officials. And I'm proud of that because I don't believe
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00:45:47.720 And guess what? Lao Baixing agrees with me. So look, you separate Trump from the GOP. That's
00:45:54.040 why I'm asking. I know how you feel about the Dems. How do you feel about the GOP?
00:45:57.720 The GOP did nothing. The GOP is the same neoliberal neocons invade everywhere and have
00:46:03.480 huge tax cuts for the wealthy. This is what Trump brought to the table. This is in 14.
00:46:08.600 When I see Trump there, he's against all these other GOP politicians. He talked in another
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00:46:18.840 thing that's very thin without substance. Trump was talking about substance. He's not a polished
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00:46:34.200 most elected officials behind closed doors are not pro-Trump. And they're certainly not pro-our policies.
00:46:40.120 This is why heads have exploded the last couple of days, including your good buddy,
00:46:43.800 Sean Hannity, who's hit blown up the most, about we are going to raise taxes on the wealthy. The tax
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00:46:56.200 has a snapback. It goes from 37 back to probably 40 percent for the upper bracket and maybe even
00:47:01.880 something else for people that are millionaires. And Sean Hannity is having a total meltdown right now
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00:47:18.040 people who are Democrats and independents, including so many young African Americans,
00:47:22.680 are listening to Trump finally because he's talking in a different nomenclature and his policies are
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00:49:01.720 today. Field of Greens. Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell, they're writing stories about my brother,
00:49:09.880 Mike Lindell. You're whining in a courtroom, you're crying in a courtroom. That's not the Michael,
00:49:14.360 Michael Lindell I know is tough as boot leather. Brother, you've been in many, you've been in worse
00:49:18.600 jams in this. What the hell? What the hell's going on, man? On, on, on, on, on, on Easter weekend.
00:49:26.840 He has risen. Come on, come on, bro. Is the fake news, is the fake news true or is the fake news fake?
00:49:34.360 They are fake everybody, but I will say this. I did not, the lawyer for the voting machine company
00:49:41.880 did not say that my pillows were lumpy. So I was able to keep any, any feelings I had down. Okay.
00:49:50.040 But they, yeah, it seems like Steve, every time I show up to these hearings or these depositions,
00:49:55.880 they pull stuff out of there and make stuff up. And you guys, I did, I was not weeping
00:50:01.880 and, and begging for mercy or whatever they had going on out there. That was, it's completely lies.
00:50:08.440 I'm going to keep fighting to secure our elections. I don't care what they do to me out there. These,
00:50:13.560 this law fair, I did tell the judge this law fair is they're trying to ruin me, your honor.
00:50:19.400 And so they came out, Mike is, Mike is weeping. He said he's in ruins and they're going to do
00:50:24.760 anything they came first. They tried to say, look at, he's an angry Christian when we call his pillows
00:50:29.880 lumpies. Now they're saying, you know, he's just crying. If you, if you, if you try and help your
00:50:35.960 country, you too could be Mike Lindell in tears. It's all lies, Steve, all lies. We're here. We're
00:50:42.600 standing. We're still fighting. And that's the way it's going to be.
00:50:48.040 Mike, uh, to close out today, next hour, it's going to be incredible. Patrick K. O'Donnell is
00:50:54.680 going to join me. And for an hour, we're going to break down the 250th anniversary of Paul Revere's
00:51:01.240 ride. What it means for today. Also, we're going to tee up the shot heard around the world in
00:51:07.160 Lexington and Concord, which will take place tomorrow. Mike Lindell, can you please sell me
00:51:12.440 a set of sheets, sir? You got, you got sheets, but I'm going to add one to it for this weekend,
00:51:17.640 you guys, for the, for the, the greatest weekend, the glorious weekend with the resurrection here on
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00:51:32.920 all things are possible. All the Bible stories there, you guys get them the lowest price ever.
00:51:38.520 We're doing it for exclusive Easter special for the War Room Posse, $9.98. You get to try out the
00:51:44.600 2.0. Go to the website though. And there's those, the sheets are still there. We're doing it for the
00:51:50.520 War Room Posse, $25, any size. Get them this weekend for all your relatives, everything.
00:51:57.000 Clothes out sale, no matter what the size or color. And, and then we have the pillows there too. So,
00:52:03.560 you guys, I want to thank you for all your support. It's a great weekend, you guys. Everybody have a
00:52:08.440 great weekend. And, and all that fake news out there, you guys, you could sleep well knowing we're not
00:52:14.040 going anywhere. Mike, have a blessed Easter. And we'll talk to you on Monday, sir.
00:52:21.960 Short break. 250th commemoration next.
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