Bannon's War Room - Episode 4433： Fighting The System That Is Working Against Americans For Over 50 Years

00:00:00.000 This is my first time in here.

00:00:04.280 Well, you're only probably with the most controversial White House correspondents.

00:00:08.040 And I'm actually really good at yelling because I used to be a ring announcer.

00:00:10.280 We're all biased, right?

00:00:12.080 We just wear our bias, which I think is a pejorative term to begin with, on our sleeves.

00:00:16.280 I mean, there's no doubt about it. I'm pro-Trump.

00:00:18.000 The questions I ask, in my opinion, are going to help highlight the good things that he's doing for America.

00:00:23.960 These are White House correspondents like you've never seen before.

00:00:27.200 They're part of the Trump administration's push to bring so-called new media into the White House.

00:00:33.480 We have an individual in our new media seat today.

00:00:37.060 Cara Castronova is White House correspondent for Lindell TV.

00:00:41.780 Go to mypillow.com.

00:00:43.720 Yes, that Lindell.

00:00:45.940 Boys will be boys.

00:00:47.400 The new media outlets have full access to the White House briefing room, where they ask questions like this.

00:00:52.900 Will you guys also consider releasing the president's fitness plan?

00:00:56.720 And he actually looks healthier than ever before.

00:00:58.680 Is he working out with Bobby Kennedy?

00:01:00.760 And is he eating less McDonald's?

00:01:03.380 I can confirm the president is in very good shape.

00:01:06.500 Why don't you wear a suit?

00:01:09.100 Why don't you wear a suit?

00:01:10.240 You're the highest level in this country's office.

00:01:13.080 And the characterization of what you were doing, asking Zelensky that question, that you were trolling?

00:01:18.800 I'm not a troll.

00:01:19.760 I never have been.

00:01:20.380 That was a legitimate question I just wanted to ask.

00:01:22.880 I didn't mean to, you know, get everyone fired up like they did.

00:01:26.860 If you look at the last 93 days, how close is his agenda to what's in the playbook?

00:01:34.060 It has been almost step for step.

00:01:36.500 You can draw a straight line from what we see in these chapters to the executive orders, to the kind of things they're pursuing.

00:01:42.000 Civil servants, obviously.

00:01:43.660 And really, those denials were always nonsense.

00:01:46.300 The people who put this together serve in the first Trump administration.

00:01:49.300 They serve in this administration.

00:01:50.660 They worked on his platform committee for the 2024 campaign.

00:01:53.840 You know, it was hogwash.

00:01:54.640 Then given that, when people say, oh, Elon Musk is the shadow president, do they have it all wrong?

00:02:02.160 When it comes to a shadow president, is it Russell Vogt, right?

00:02:05.800 He's now head of the OMB, has huge power in the administration, and he's one of the main architects of Project 2025.

00:02:12.000 That's right.

00:02:12.360 And he lays out in the plan exactly how to use the executive branch.

00:02:15.160 He thought very closely about how, for example, OMB could become not so much a managerial center, but a place that forces the agencies to do exactly what the president wants.

00:02:24.180 And what the president wants seems to be exactly what Project 2025 wants.

00:02:27.920 But all these people, these architects of Project 2025, I want to go back to this gap you were talking about.

00:02:33.380 What do their lives look like?

00:02:35.080 Because when I think about traditional American families, Donald Trump has been married three times.

00:02:40.220 Elon Musk has 13 children, and as of last week, he's marketing for open potential wombs to procreate more. 0.83

00:02:49.080 So who are these people specifically?

00:02:51.840 Because the kind of traditional families you're talking about don't seem to be the way they live their own lives.

00:02:57.460 You know, some of the folks who wrote these chapters do.

00:02:59.200 And what they've discovered is that Donald Trump is a really good vessel.

00:03:01.860 They, I think, understand that he is not a particularly serious person to do this, but that he can achieve what they want.

00:03:07.760 And so they've grafted their goals onto his so that they can get the vision of the family that they want implemented.

00:03:12.920 Now the briefing room, the seats are, you know, big networks up front.

00:03:17.540 You're hoping that that will be rearranged, that outlets like yourself might have a more prominent seat here?

00:03:23.820 Definitely. If it were up to me, I'd kick a lot of these outlets out.

00:03:27.360 I view my role here more as sort of reporting on not so much the White House, but really the media.

00:03:33.060 Natalie Winters is White House correspondent for Steve Bannon's show War Room.

00:03:38.120 Our bias is not to be sycophants for President Trump.

00:03:40.880 Our bias is for our audience, which is the working class of America, the people who want to put this country first.

00:03:46.420 If Trump messes up, will you guys call it out?

00:03:48.800 Yeah, and we have.

00:03:49.840 I think time and time again, particularly on the vertical and issue of immigration, we are not for stapling green cards to diplomas.

00:03:55.900 We met the new media correspondents on the day Trump announced tariffs that could upend the world economic order.

00:04:03.420 As other news outlets reported on the tanking stock market, on Bannon TV, they celebrated.

00:04:09.860 This is the first day where a sitting president put America's working class first, 0.99

00:04:14.540 and it's a glorious day to be standing here at the White House and to be able to say that and bring that to you.

00:04:19.320 Have the quote-unquote traditional reporters that are here been hostile to you at all?

00:04:24.380 Well, I think they know better than to come after Natalie Winters and the War Room posse, 1.00

00:04:29.820 but it's the looks, the eye rolls, the conversations that I overhear.

00:04:33.380 And what they've discovered is that Donald Trump is a really good vessel.

00:04:36.040 They, I think, understand that he is not a particularly serious person to do this,

00:04:40.380 but that he can achieve what they want.

00:04:42.220 And so they've grafted their goals onto his so that they can get the vision of the family that they want implemented.

00:04:47.140 But many of the people who voted for Donald Trump voted for him because he was a business guy

00:04:52.480 and they did it for the economy.

00:04:54.380 Do baby bonuses and federally funded menstrual classes, 0.76

00:04:59.900 could this hurt Donald Trump politically?

00:05:01.660 Because I would guess that the core base who supports those ideas

00:05:06.700 are not the overwhelming majority of Americans and even the majority of people who voted for Trump.

00:05:11.620 I think that's right.

00:05:12.180 I mean, they talk about this as a vision of liberty,

00:05:14.040 but it's not a vision of liberty that I think most Americans associate with.

00:05:17.460 And it doesn't feel like freedom to them.

00:05:19.020 It feels like a step backwards and putting people back into boxes they were in in the 1950s.

00:05:23.440 So what is the end game for the authors of Project 2025?

00:05:27.100 Because when I say I look at Republican lawmakers and over the last 93 days, do they feel like they're winning?

00:05:32.860 And for many of them, the answer is no.

00:05:34.680 But I'm guessing for the Project 2025 crew, they feel like they're winning.

00:05:38.800 That's right.

00:05:39.540 They want to move things as far as they can, as quickly as they can.

00:05:42.020 And they know they're going to get stopped after 100 days or after two years when they get to the midterms.

00:05:46.580 But they're playing a very long game.

00:05:48.100 They just want to move the ball forward.

00:05:49.320 And they are looking, you know, decades into the future at a federal government to be much more restrained and focused around their goals.

00:05:55.040 When Trump is gone, they're still going to be around.

00:05:56.480 They're adjusting to life as part of the White House press corps.

00:06:00.120 These big tents here is where you have CNN, ABC, the networks.

00:06:04.440 And you guys are kind of off to the side here.

00:06:06.300 So we're kind of off to the side, which is what a lot of alternate media is doing right now.

00:06:09.760 From the protocols.

00:06:11.320 There were times at the beginning when we're standing kind of here, not realizing we're in people's shots.

00:06:14.920 To the snack selection.

00:06:16.380 And this is off topic.

00:06:17.420 The vending machine is full of junk food.

00:06:19.420 And I'm a big Maha person.

00:06:21.320 I almost ate a beef Slim Jim yesterday.

00:06:23.900 I was desperate.

00:06:24.920 Do you consider yourself a journalist?

00:06:26.880 Yes.

00:06:28.660 Tell me.

00:06:29.620 Seems like you took a little pause to process that.

00:06:33.820 But I think we all should have a seat at the table.

00:06:36.000 I really do.

00:06:36.880 And if you look, the very first week she did the new media, it was Axios.

00:06:40.720 And Axios, by no stretch of imagination, is a conservative new media.

00:06:44.300 But while not all new media here are MAGA media, a lot of them are more cheerleading President Trump than challenging him.

00:06:52.820 You are a Trump fan, right?

00:06:54.200 Yes, I'm definitely a supporter of President Trump.

00:06:57.740 So will you be able to hold him to account then?

00:06:59.860 I will be able to hold 100% him to account.

00:07:03.880 You know, there's, I'm sure things that will happen that I disagree with.

00:07:07.180 And I have said plenty of times, you know, on the record when I've disagreed with his decisions.

00:07:11.340 What do you think so far in this administration you've disagreed with?

00:07:14.480 I'm not going to, let me put some thought into that for a second.

00:07:19.560 I'm just overwhelmed, like just overwhelmed with how well I perceive things to be going.

00:07:25.740 But to the people, and I'm sure you see this online every single day, who say you don't deserve to be here because you're not a real journalist.

00:07:34.300 What's your response to them?

00:07:35.780 Well, I'm pretty sure the group of people in there spent, what was it, four years covering for someone who was essentially dead.

00:07:41.440 And that's being charitable in my description of him, a president by the name of Joe Biden.

00:07:45.400 So to all those people who are apoplectic over having new media voices, you guys fail.

00:07:50.120 And that's why we're here.

00:07:51.040 The chair of the White House Correspondents Association, a group that has represented White House reporters for more than a century, recently wrote,

00:07:59.460 For the public to get information it needs to understand and make decisions about the most powerful office in the world,

00:08:05.180 it needs news produced by experienced professional journalists who ask tough questions and produce fair...

00:08:11.360 40% of Americans don't trust mainstream media.

00:08:14.740 Why is that?

00:08:15.660 How did we get here?

00:08:16.520 Listen, we are seeing a huge loss in trust of all of our institutions.

00:08:20.400 It's the media, it's medicine, it's banking.

00:08:24.280 It's a huge problem because when you think about democracy and all of these pillars, they need to stand tall, they need to stand strong.

00:08:32.040 And sort of losing that trust is not by accident, it's by design.

00:08:38.540 If you remember when President Trump was running the first time, Steve Bannon once said,

00:08:42.460 the goal is to blow the whole thing up.

00:08:44.740 And so I think that you've got mistakes made or things starting to slip while at the same time there's a concerted effort to destroy the media.

00:08:54.340 Because the media, the news media is, in my opinion, the last light of defense of holding power accountable, right?

00:09:03.660 And you had a bit of a perfect storm, right?

00:09:05.820 President Trump won and tons of people were shocked or angry or frustrated and they're tuning out.

00:09:11.000 And at the same time, you have the Elon Musk media machine because they want you to leave traditional media and they want you to go to X,

00:09:19.040 which is a bastion of misinformation where there is no fact checking.

00:09:23.220 So it's a perfect storm of people saying, I'm angry, I'm frustrated, I'm tuning out, I'm disconnecting.

00:09:30.420 And then you have a force pushing it.

00:09:33.680 And but even in the last two weeks, what we need to do is just cover what's happening in America.

00:09:40.500 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:09:48.320 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:09:53.540 I got a free shot.

00:09:54.800 All these networks lying about the people.

00:09:57.800 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:09:59.800 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:10:01.220 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:10:03.840 It's going to happen.

00:10:05.120 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:10:08.520 Mega media.

00:10:09.420 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:10:15.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:10:19.040 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:10:25.420 War Room.

00:10:26.260 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:10:33.240 Wednesday, 23 April, year of our Lord, 2025.

00:10:35.900 Five, there's really proud of Natalie and Brian Glenn and the team.

00:10:41.560 That's a hit piece by CNN.

00:10:43.200 Of course, we volunteered, you know, War Room, Real America's Voice volunteered to be part of that.

00:10:48.360 But I think you see between Stephanie Rule and with the comedian off of the office. 1.00

00:10:55.860 What was it, Rain?

00:10:58.960 And her doing the podcast with him and what CNN's doing.

00:11:03.120 This complete joke about how the media is, you know, asking tough questions and very professional.

00:11:08.100 Come on, man. 0.96

00:11:08.660 This is so obviously ridiculous that it doesn't even garner a response. 0.99

00:11:15.860 We just mock it. 0.83

00:11:18.120 And I really want to thank the team for doing a great cut there.

00:11:21.160 The heart of the matter is Stephanie Rule on our show last night talking about Project 2025 and, of course, Russ Vogt.

00:11:28.080 Russ is obviously one of the key players.

00:11:30.820 I think he and Besant formed the interconnected both managing of the federal government and trying to deconstruct this and really get cost out programmatically and do it thoroughly and make sure we get this thing down, along with Scott being the head of the – really the negotiations for the deals, which traditionally would fall to commerce but has fallen to treasury.

00:11:53.480 I think people can understand why, Scott, safe pair of hands, very steady eddy, you know, calming the capital markets down.

00:12:01.880 Yesterday, President Trump put out – they said, hey, the 125, 145 percent may be too high and we're going to try to, you know, work through this with the Chinese.

00:12:12.740 The Chinese have already reached out at the ministerial level to try to see what's doable.

00:12:18.720 Scott Besant right now is over at IMF and he is addressing – and this is the International Monetary Fund.

00:12:28.400 They're the ones who just downgraded the United States yesterday on growth, I think, from 2.5 percent of GDP growth this year to 1.8.

00:12:38.240 That's a pretty big drop.

00:12:39.820 And if that's true, that will have a big impact, just saying.

00:12:42.500 They blame it on the tariffs, which is not about the tariffs.

00:12:49.360 So Scott is the lead.

00:12:50.620 President Trump saying that.

00:12:51.820 Then he also said, hey, I'm not going to fire the Federal Reserve chair.

00:12:54.800 We brought that to you live last night.

00:12:56.320 We told you live on the show at 6 o'clock, right before we went off, I think it was right close to 7, that futures had gone up 400 points.

00:13:03.860 So the market's up.

00:13:04.940 Remember, this is much deeper than the stock market or the bond market or the bond market gets a vote because we're so leveraged, I might say.

00:13:15.120 But Scott Besant's over there talking.

00:13:17.100 I think he just mentioned a moment ago – I'm going to come to it after break, right?

00:13:21.200 Or can we – we're not going to blow – we can blow the break?

00:13:23.440 OK, let's go.

00:13:23.900 Can we go to Scott Besant?

00:13:25.220 Let's go to Scott Besant, secretary of treasurer over at IMF right now.

00:13:28.800 Let's cut to – let's cut over there.

00:13:30.320 In its mission of promoting global monetary cooperation and financial stability, now it devotes disproportionate time and resources to work on climate change, gender, and social issues.

00:13:44.960 These issues are not the IMF's mission.

00:13:48.640 And the IMF's focus in these areas is crowding out its work on critical macroeconomic issues.

00:13:56.600 The IMF must be a brutal truth-teller and not just to some members.

00:14:03.460 Today, IMF – the IMF has been whistling past the graveyard.

00:14:09.900 Its 2024 external sector report was entitled, Imbalances Receding.

00:14:15.720 This Pollyannish outlook is symptomatic of an institution more dedicated to preserving the status quo than answering the hard questions.

00:14:26.600 Here in the United States, we know we need to get our fiscal house in order.

00:14:32.800 The last administration ran up the largest peacetime deficit in our nation's history.

00:14:39.400 The current administration is committed to fixing this.

00:14:43.380 We are open to critique, but we will not abide the IMF failing to critique the countries that most need it, principally surplus countries.

00:14:55.160 In line with its core mandate, the IMF needs to call out countries like China that have pursued globally distorted policies and opaque currency practices for many decades.

00:15:06.660 I also expect the IMF to call out unsustainable lending practices by certain creditor countries.

00:15:13.660 The IMF should push more proactively official bilateral lenders to come to the table early to work with borrower countries to minimize periods of debt distress.

00:15:29.840 The IMF must refocus its lending on addressing balance of payment problems, and its lending should be temporary.

00:15:38.600 When done responsibly, IMF lending is at the very core of its contribution to the global economy.

00:15:47.580 When markets fail, the IMF steps in and makes resources available.

00:15:53.940 In exchange, countries implement economic reforms to resolve their balance of payments issues and support economic growth.

00:16:02.560 The reforms undertaken during these programs are some of the IMF's most important contributions to a strong, sustainable, and balanced global economy.

00:16:16.360 Argentina is a fitting example. 0.56

00:16:19.860 I was in Argentina earlier this month to demonstrate the United States' support for the IMF efforts to help the country reset financially.

00:16:30.700 Argentina deserves the IMF's support because the country is making real progress toward meeting financial benchmarks, but not every country is so deserving.

00:16:43.520 The IMF must hold countries accountable for implementing economic reforms, and sometimes, sometimes, the IMF needs to say no.

00:16:53.540 The organization has no obligation to lend to countries that fail to implement reforms.

00:17:01.480 Economic stability and growth should be the markers of the IMF's success, not how much money the institution lends out.

00:17:12.600 World Bank.

00:17:14.160 Like the IMF, the World Bank must be made fit for purpose again.

00:17:19.500 The World Bank group helps developing countries grow their economies, reduce poverty, increase private investment support, private sector job creation, and reduce dependence on foreign aid.

00:17:34.540 It offers transparent and affordable long-term financing for countries to invest in their own development priorities.

00:17:42.820 The bank, along with the fund, provides extensive technical support to promote debt sustainability among low-income countries, which empowers those countries to stand up to coercive and opaque lending terms from other creditors.

00:18:01.400 These core functions of the World Bank complement the Trump administration's efforts to foster safer, stronger, and more prosperous economies in the United States and the world.

00:18:15.100 But the bank, like the IMF, has strayed in certain respects from its initial mission.

00:18:21.440 The bank should no longer expect blank checks for vapid, buzzword-centric marketing accompanied by half-hearted commitments to reform.

00:18:31.840 As the bank returns to its core mission, it must use its resources as efficiently and effectively as possible.

00:18:40.200 And it must do so in ways that demonstrate tangible values for all member countries.

00:18:46.560 The bank can use its resources more efficiently now by focusing on increasing energy access.

00:18:54.800 Business leaders the world over identify unreliable power supply as one of the primary impediments to investment.

00:19:03.460 The World Bank and African Development Bank's Joint Mission 300 initiative to expand energy access to 300 million more people in Africa is a welcome effort.

00:19:17.380 But the World Bank must respond to countries' energy priorities and needs.

00:19:22.860 By the way, we finance IMF and he's over at one of these international economics institutes talking about the IMF and the World Bank.

00:19:30.560 He just dropped a hammer.

00:19:32.180 Those are not familiar with the lingo.

00:19:37.600 He's saying because the IMF just downgraded the United States yesterday on President Trump's watch about his business plan or his economic model from growth of 2.5 percent down to growth of 1.8.

00:19:51.240 I'm going to get all into this because this is tied to the – and if Grace and Moe can start putting up all the articles about the tax cuts because this is being misreported by the conservative media and the Republican media.

00:20:08.160 They're saying, oh, massive tax hikes for the wealth.

00:20:10.680 No, it's about massive tax cuts for working class and middle class people.

00:20:15.160 I mean massive tax cuts.

00:20:16.980 You extend the Trump tax cuts permanently for that group, those brackets, plus no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security.

00:20:30.100 So we'll get on to that.

00:20:31.560 And it's indirectly linked back to the growth rate because the growth of the economy is the denominator that kind of marks how much tax revenue one is going to get from both corporations and from individuals.

00:20:44.340 And this is my point, and no one can refute it because it's mathematics and it's not refutable, is the math does not work unless you don't – we're not raising taxes.

00:20:59.600 What you're doing is not extending the tax cuts for the upper bracket or if President Trump wants it, $1 million to 40 percent.

00:21:08.260 It's quite simple.

00:21:10.220 It's called mathematics.

00:21:11.200 And anybody, Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, all of you, bring it, baby, and bring some math when you come, okay?

00:21:19.320 Bring some math when you come because the program that you guys have is not sustainable.

00:21:24.500 And the bond market gets a vote, and what we don't want to do is have the bond market start trying to turf out the Trump administration.

00:21:32.020 Quite simple.

00:21:32.740 President Trump's got a lot of stuff to do.

00:21:34.800 Let's go to the Vatican.

00:21:35.760 Let's go to St. Peter's right there out front, our own Ben Harnwell.

00:21:42.520 Ben, you called it the other day, and one of the TV networks actually was truthful last night when they had a live – I guess it's the streaming service of Catholic TV,

00:21:54.300 which kind of streams a lot of footage and a lot of what's going on in the Vatican.

00:21:59.560 And they said, hey, it's pretty obvious that this rosary for the pope, there's not many people in attendance.

00:22:07.040 Sir, give us an update.

00:22:09.520 Well, of course, in a certain point of view, there's a need for Catholics to be praying right now because the prayers have already worked their efficacy.

00:22:20.040 The latest news today, this morning, is that the remains, the corpse of, inverted commas, Pope Francis, have been transferred from Casa Santa Marta,

00:22:32.320 which is his private hotel where he lived, to the Vatican.

00:22:35.920 And they've been – they're open there for the public for three days.

00:22:39.840 Today, tomorrow and Friday, the public can pay their respect.

00:22:43.880 But that's why you can see behind me there are so many more people in the piazza than in the first two days.

00:22:50.440 Because if you're a tourist here in Rome, then obviously the first thing you're going to want to do is go and see how can I put this Rome's number one celebrity.

00:23:03.080 That's the latest, and I'll be keeping the woman posse updated day by day on the development set.

00:23:08.220 But there is something that I saw this morning, and we discussed it lightly before the show, because this is really, I think, a great tribute to the power of the warring audience.

00:23:18.820 And that is, at this moment in time, the Financial Times, one of the most sedate newspapers in the world, carries an article, and I'll put this out on my feed.

00:23:27.420 And inside, it's called, The MAGA Catholics Trying to Take Back Control of the Church. 0.66

00:23:32.100 I very strongly recommend the posse.

00:23:34.800 You go down, download this, have a look at it.

00:23:36.780 As I say, we'll put it out.

00:23:37.960 It mentions in passing you and Vice President France as being the most celebrated MAGA Catholic.

00:23:44.340 The point I actually want to draw the posse's attention to, however, is the last paragraph, the very bottom,

00:23:50.140 which mentions an interesting fact that of 10 U.S. cardinals that are eligible to vote in this conflict,

00:23:57.820 that is to say, that are under 80s old, six of them have been appointed by Pope Francis and will presumably carry forth his own views and philosophy into the next conflict.

00:24:09.400 The reason I say, Steve, I think this is important, is because one of the great shits of this, of Pope Francis, of Pope Bergoglio,

00:24:18.080 was that he wanted, he said so many times, he wanted the Catholic Church, the priest, to have the smell of the cloth, 0.82

00:24:26.240 to have a beautiful expression, but pretty much betrayed by him, first edition.

00:24:32.480 What he's saying is the Catholic Church should be close to the people that it serves.

00:24:37.620 Here's my point, Steve.

00:24:38.740 On the prudential issues facing the Church today, on which Catholics of goodwill have the entire discretion in the public square

00:24:47.260 to choose the best approach of bringing and making real the Kingdom of Jesus Christ in the world today,

00:24:56.080 Pope Francis appointed bishops which were radically out of step with practicing Catholics.

00:25:02.380 This is the point about the six out of ten U.S. Catholic cardinals being picked by Francis.

00:25:09.360 He said he wanted a church that was close to the people and had pastors that had the smell of the sheep,

00:25:16.000 but the people he picked were radically opposed to everything that the flock stands for.

00:25:22.860 And that, Steve, and I hand back to you on this point,

00:25:24.580 that just illustrates the degree of contempt that the hierarchy under Bergoglio had for the faithful

00:25:31.500 and the gaslighting that was engaged in pretty much all of his mission, all of his public mission.

00:25:39.400 No, this is someone for his policies, hated Trump, hated MAGA, I think hated the United States of America,

00:25:47.180 and was a progressive.

00:25:49.740 He was a political, and for our non-Catholics, people go, why do you spend so much time with us?

00:25:54.580 Well, this institution, whether you like it or not, has massive political implications,

00:26:00.020 and this is one of the keystones of the progressive left globally.

00:26:05.240 And that's why there's so many traditional Catholics, so many Catholics have revolted against this.

00:26:10.740 And I think we're headed to a schism unless Bergoglio exited the scene,

00:26:19.320 which he did to go to his Jeshury wards.

00:26:21.280 And you should know we're working a lot behind the scenes with traditional Catholics to try to figure out a plan here, 0.99

00:26:28.820 but this is going to have, because evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics

00:26:33.500 are one of the central building blocks of the MAGA movement in this country,

00:26:37.800 and they're unshakable.

00:26:39.540 Every political movement has to have a foundational element that is rock-hard and powerful

00:26:45.400 and is unrelenting.

00:26:48.520 That is what the certain elements of the evangelical community

00:26:54.260 and certain elements of the Catholic community are that, with others.

00:26:57.720 But that's a foundational element, a foundational element that is growing.

00:27:01.500 Foundational element have certain urgency.

00:27:04.160 Ben, 4 a.m., and I'm working out with R.E.V. how this is going to be covered,

00:27:08.480 I think 4 a.m. on Saturday morning, the funeral.

00:27:11.620 President Trump will be in attendance.

00:27:13.280 My understanding is President Trump's going over.

00:27:15.740 He's going to be in a very small delegation.

00:27:18.980 President Trump's going to go over and then return, I think, fairly quickly.

00:27:23.840 He's going to get ready for his trip now to the Middle East.

00:27:26.720 It's been announced it's going to be May 13th to 15th.

00:27:29.020 President Trump's going to Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Qatar.

00:27:34.280 Not going to go to Jerusalem.

00:27:38.520 Ben Harnwell, after that, talk to me about the conclave.

00:27:41.240 We've got about two minutes, and I know you've got to bolt to do other interviews.

00:27:44.700 Talk to me about the conclave.

00:27:46.040 When is it going to start?

00:27:46.600 It's already started.

00:27:48.140 The knives are already out.

00:27:49.440 But when does it officially kick off?

00:27:52.160 Well, the general congregation started absurdly yesterday.

00:27:56.620 Less than 24 hours.

00:27:58.160 The court wasn't even told.

00:27:59.480 And Pope Francis' most close colleagues already started their politicking, which is appalling.

00:28:08.880 I want to quickly finish, if I may, however, on the point you just mentioned.

00:28:11.960 This is really important of the world today.

00:28:14.180 What we saw under this pontificate, because the Catholic hierarchy, the bishop, the cardinals,

00:28:19.780 had vacated the public square on these issues, the pro-life issues, the cultural issues,

00:28:24.920 what we actually saw happening, and this is beautiful to watch, was an alliance between

00:28:29.900 traditional Catholic and conservative evangelical Christians fighting the issues.

00:28:35.260 Basically, the evangelicals have stepped up to fill the role that Bergoglio and his henchmen 0.86

00:28:40.660 have vacated.

00:28:41.980 Steve, what was Francis' response to this?

00:28:45.220 He condemned it.

00:28:46.160 He wanted to be in charge of what ecumenism was, which is basically Protestants who don't 1.00

00:28:51.500 believe a word of their faith, Catholics who don't believe a word of their faith. 0.87

00:28:55.060 They get together and they agree on how much they have in common.

00:28:57.720 Well, of course, what the laity were doing, as I say, believing Catholics and believing

00:29:03.700 Protestants, believing evangelicals, what they were doing on their own initiative was 0.51

00:29:07.900 coming together to offer a testimony of the laws and the kingdom of Jesus Christ.

00:29:15.840 from this world, and Bergoglio condemned it.

00:29:18.240 He said, I do not like conservative evangelicals and traditionalist tactics coming together.

00:29:24.280 This is not what ecumenism is.

00:29:26.680 And I'll just leave that there for you, La Cossie, who can draw their own conclusions.

00:29:29.820 Ben, Ben, why are you going to talk about Carnwell?

00:29:33.340 Perfect.

00:29:34.040 And Ben's putting up stuff nonstop.

00:29:35.880 Grace and Mo will put out the link.

00:29:37.360 Ben's putting up stuff nonstop.

00:29:38.700 Okay, Ben, go about your other interviews.

00:29:42.480 Spread the word in the Vatican.

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00:32:37.080 A couple other things Scott Besson said, and this is on a tweet just sent to me from over the Treasury.

00:32:51.140 I want to read this.

00:32:53.000 This is part of the speech, and maybe we'll break part of this down this afternoon.

00:32:56.140 Quote, China in particular is in need of rebalancing.

00:32:59.840 He was calling out the IMF and a little bit the World Bank for not putting the same hard eye they put on the U.S.

00:33:11.620 and the U.S. economy on other people.

00:33:13.320 China has gotten away with murder because all the institutions of the world are corrupted by the Chinese Communist Party, 0.99

00:33:22.300 including the U.N.'s engine room in Geneva, World Health Organization, the education, all of it, because it's all run.

00:33:31.220 You go to Geneva.

00:33:32.360 Virtually all these things at the working level are with Chinese Communist Party apparatchiks.

00:33:38.700 Scott Besson.

00:33:39.500 That China in particular is in need of rebalancing. 0.82

00:33:41.700 China's current economic model is built on exporting its way out of economic troubles.

00:33:46.420 It's an unsustainable model that is not only harming China, but the entire world.

00:33:51.760 China needs to change.

00:33:54.620 Now, President, they're running around now saying President Trump's going to cut the tariffs down to 50%,

00:33:58.500 which was the original plan was supposed to be 50.

00:34:01.700 He, because they retaliated, went to 125 and then to 145.

00:34:05.620 I'm not certain you're going to see a President Trump climb down like that.

00:34:10.460 Charlie Gasparino is already out saying she's probably not maybe not going to respond to this.

00:34:16.280 The Chinese Communist Party and even in the administration, the Chinese Communist Party is at war with us.

00:34:22.360 They have been at war with us for quite a while.

00:34:25.400 Unrestricted warfare is their blueprint.

00:34:27.140 They're out in public.

00:34:27.920 They talk about this all the time.

00:34:29.200 And it's a coordinated effort as we've had Natalie Winters and the people in the federal state of China

00:34:34.300 and the Committee on the Present Danger, China, Frank Gaffney for years and years and years and years and years.

00:34:40.480 We've preached it.

00:34:41.340 This is why Josh Rogan's book says at the beginning, you know, Bannon, Navarro and Stephen Miller were these kind of super hawks

00:34:48.700 that didn't believe the Chinese Communist Party was the legitimate government of the Chinese people,

00:34:54.200 given the fact that the U.S. State Department kind of gave them the country back in the late 1940s.

00:34:59.660 I realize they had a couple of battlefield wins, no doubt.

00:35:03.820 But, you know, the tides of war, people have battlefield wins all the time.

00:35:07.720 Don't turn the country over to them. 0.99

00:35:09.940 And then when it collapses, we've gone over, over and over and over again in 1989,

00:35:14.580 when students and Lao Baixing, who wanted their freedom, were about to overthrow these guys,

00:35:23.540 Bush stepped in and saved them.

00:35:26.380 Full stop.

00:35:27.840 I hate to bring up unpleasant facts.

00:35:30.840 Why?

00:35:31.360 To make Turner into a slave labor camp and ship all the high-value-added jobs,

00:35:35.820 the 5 million jobs we shipped to China.

00:35:38.580 Think this country would be a little different if you had those 5 million highly-paid manufacturing jobs back?

00:35:43.420 You think it would be a little different?

00:35:44.420 Think your life would be different?

00:35:45.520 Think your community would be different?

00:35:46.700 Yeah, it would be damn different.

00:35:48.880 You take that and you add, if we'd not gotten into these Middle East wars,

00:35:52.540 it cost us $9 trillion and killed, you know, 10,000 troops.

00:35:57.820 Another, I don't know, 10,000 or 15,000, 10,000 contractors

00:36:00.560 who are just basically troops who are not on the balance sheet.

00:36:04.360 And, I don't know, wounded 50,000 with PTSD with a lot of them.

00:36:10.160 25 suicides a day.

00:36:12.260 Remember that fiasco?

00:36:13.420 Well, Dave Bratt, what Besson's doing is, and he said today at the beginning,

00:36:21.600 I think they got 100 companies stacked, 100 countries stacked up.

00:36:25.280 The important ones are obviously Japan, Korea, Taiwan, India, you know, Vietnam,

00:36:34.500 the East Asian countries because the Chinese Communist Party understands what's going on.

00:36:39.520 President Trump's cutting these trade deals, and that's why yesterday, in this escalation,

00:36:45.200 the escalatory ladder, Beijing warns of retaliation against nations doing U.S. deals.

00:36:51.380 That's about as blunt as you can get.

00:36:54.740 So there's not going to be a climb down.

00:36:56.420 President Trump, I think they're rethinking the escalatory ladder because we went up it pretty quick.

00:37:01.680 I think Besson finally said it yesterday.

00:37:05.720 I've been saying this now for a week.

00:37:07.640 We have a full embargo on Chinese goods coming into this country.

00:37:12.740 Now, the model in this country, we do live on manufactured Chinese goods, full stop, I think $600 billion a year.

00:37:22.440 That's what we're trying to change by bringing back here, and it's going to be ugly, right?

00:37:28.400 It's going to be ugly, and we're now getting into it,

00:37:31.320 but the nations of the world want to be a trading party in the United States of America.

00:37:35.140 What we have to have is not a mercantilist system.

00:37:37.840 They can't game the system.

00:37:40.200 Here's the issue.

00:37:41.020 It's just a very central basic issue.

00:37:44.360 All of our allies that from Asia to Europe and the Middle East go around the horn on the Eurasian landmass,

00:37:52.140 start in Europe, go right around the Middle East, through India, which is horrible on the trade situation,

00:37:59.660 and go to the littoral nations of the South China Sea and then up to Korea and Japan.

00:38:05.440 Around the rim of the Eurasian landmass.

00:38:09.300 Every one of those were upside down on a trade,

00:38:11.820 and they got these non-tariff barriers to make sure that American goods are not sold there.

00:38:17.900 So therefore, you're not going to manufacture.

00:38:19.960 That's what President Trump's trying to right.

00:38:23.520 And like I said, it's not the second law of thermodynamics of how he got in here.

00:38:27.360 It was human action and human decisions.

00:38:28.960 He's trying to unwind that.

00:38:31.080 And the Chinese Communist Party has been the big beneficiary of corporate America,

00:38:34.520 corporate America and Wall Street are the partners of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:38:40.900 They're not the partners of the American working people. 0.72

00:38:44.360 I don't want to go so far as to say they're your enemy.

00:38:47.300 However, during the Biden regime, you saw how they jumped on DEI.

00:38:53.120 You saw how they were running you out of there.

00:38:56.560 You saw how they were like the Stassi. 1.00

00:39:00.040 You see what, when it comes down to it, you see what side they take.

00:39:03.240 Did they take your side?

00:39:05.400 Right?

00:39:05.760 You're not a communist.

00:39:06.580 You're not a socialist.

00:39:07.580 You're an American citizen.

00:39:09.300 Listen, just ask the question.

00:39:11.420 Did they ever take your side on anything?

00:39:13.940 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:39:15.060 They'll have a commercial with the American flag and people running around like cowboys

00:39:18.140 and riding horses.

00:39:19.080 And, you know, it's all if you just watch the commercials on TV, take the drug ads out

00:39:23.800 of MSNBC.

00:39:24.540 But if you watch the commercials, man, you're choked up every 30 seconds.

00:39:28.420 It's just amazing.

00:39:30.040 It's all traditional America. 0.90

00:39:31.520 It's all cowboys and, you know, people drinking beer and going to rodeos and square dancing.

00:39:37.260 It's incredible.

00:39:38.240 People with deep voices coming on there.

00:39:40.280 That's America.

00:39:41.660 Right?

00:39:41.920 American flags flying.

00:39:43.120 It's so patriotic.

00:39:44.760 I get tear up.

00:39:46.380 And it's all 100% phony.

00:39:49.620 Because all they're doing is putting the shiv in you every day. 1.00

00:39:53.420 Have you noticed any of these people, one of them, come out and say, hey, you know what?

00:39:58.500 The whole system rests on the shoulders of the American working man and woman.

00:40:01.620 Yes, we understand.

00:40:02.500 Maybe you got to bring some jobs back.

00:40:03.680 No.

00:40:04.500 The only reason they come in investing is President Trump's, it's called a forcing function.

00:40:08.380 That's what the tariffs are.

00:40:10.080 Now, one of these guys are volunteering to come back here.

00:40:13.920 And unless you stay on them, they're going to try to wilt away as they're sitting in their

00:40:18.700 offices thinking, hey, AI, how to get rid of as many of these people with artificial

00:40:22.340 intelligence as possible.

00:40:23.460 It's the logic of late-stage finance capitalism.

00:40:29.840 This is not capitalism as our founders knew it.

00:40:32.220 It's not capitalism as Adam Smith knew it.

00:40:36.020 Number one, it's a total mercantilist.

00:40:37.580 Adam Smith warned you.

00:40:38.640 This is a total mercantilist system.

00:40:40.680 A total mercantilist system.

00:40:42.320 You know what's interesting?

00:40:43.940 Dave Bratt, if memory serves me correctly, I think there were some guys around 250 years

00:40:51.780 ago last Saturday at Lexington Common at Concord Bridge that had something to say about that.

00:40:57.680 I think they came out.

00:40:58.800 Remember, folks, they were coming out to look for the guns and look for the muskets and look 1.00

00:41:04.140 for the powder, okay? 0.97

00:41:06.320 So these crazy Americans, these colonists, wouldn't start shooting up the place. 1.00

00:41:11.620 But their number one, the reason they went through Lexington, their number one, well, 0.96

00:41:15.940 they had to go through Lexington on the road.

00:41:17.620 But their purpose of going even to Lexington was to get Sam Adams and John Hancock, two

00:41:23.100 freebooters, heretofore referred to as smugglers, okay?

00:41:27.700 Guys were working around the crown and working around the British East India Company because 0.85

00:41:31.760 they didn't dig the monopolistic capitalism in the mercantilist system of the British crown

00:41:38.460 that had corrupted commons.

00:41:40.280 And so the whole fix was in.

00:41:41.720 And they said, hey, how about this?

00:41:43.080 Fix this.

00:41:44.180 We're going to give you some lead.

00:41:47.560 Brad, am I wrong?

00:41:48.960 It's the same fight, folks.

00:41:51.560 All you people sit there.

00:41:52.640 If I was around the Civil War, if I was around the American Revolution, I'd be standing at

00:41:57.660 Lexington Common.

00:41:59.320 I'd be at Concord Bridge.

00:42:01.560 Emerson would be writing a poem about me, right?

00:42:05.240 Well, stand in the breach now because that's what this is about.

00:42:07.800 There's no difference, slightly different circumstance, essentially the same thing.

00:42:13.120 Dave, Brad.

00:42:15.440 Yeah, you're right on the money.

00:42:17.880 We're all made in the image of God.

00:42:20.020 That image of God comes via the individual.

00:42:23.900 It does not come in the aggregate.

00:42:25.820 It does not come from central planning, from the World Bank or from the papacy.

00:42:29.700 It comes from God.

00:42:31.100 And this country was set up by the founders to ensure certain rights.

00:42:35.860 Those rights were very simple.

00:42:37.260 They were three, and they were all negative.

00:42:38.800 They don't have to be provided by anybody.

00:42:40.980 Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:42:44.200 Those are called negative rights.

00:42:45.680 They're not positive.

00:42:46.880 We never made a bargain to sign up for a $7 trillion government obscene budget that coerces

00:42:53.320 behavior from the federal government, of all things, not even state or local.

00:42:57.780 We never made a deal to join another king.

00:43:00.460 It's all unconstitutional.

00:43:02.340 And it's very hard to unwind this.

00:43:04.100 And the Republicans, I've been thinking over the last few days, are responsible for all

00:43:07.920 their passive votes, where they just kind of okayed all these procedural links along

00:43:11.700 the way.

00:43:12.200 So it's very hard to reverse this now via law.

00:43:15.360 But Rome, the rule of law, same thing.

00:43:19.300 Tim Alberta was on the other day talking about these aggregate rights, and we need to be

00:43:24.900 inclusive.

00:43:26.740 The papacy and the federal government, we do not want them defining inclusivity, right?

00:43:33.060 We're not inclusive to drug dealers and terrorists.

00:43:36.620 We're not inclusive to people who have broken the law when they enter illegally, 10 million

00:43:42.080 people.

00:43:43.120 So this is just a rouge.

00:43:44.980 And when it comes to the World Bank, kind of the same logic holds.

00:43:48.960 They do not allow a discussion of religion or politics in policy.

00:43:54.360 Those are ruled out, right?

00:43:55.820 So that's your first principles there.

00:43:57.700 But they're open to the open society and its enemies, right?

00:44:01.480 They're open to the George Soros logic and the Marxist logic.

00:44:06.060 And the World Bank, I worked there over 30 years ago.

00:44:08.280 So and if they would have stuck to their knitting and stuck to economic growth, that would be

00:44:13.280 a good thing.

00:44:14.020 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:44:16.480 And I understand the audience is cheering on that Dave Brat gets into this break.

00:44:21.220 Thank you, Warren Fosse.

00:44:22.820 Thank the chat rooms.

00:44:24.660 Dave Brat, don't drop a bomb.

00:44:26.480 Don't bury the lead.

00:44:28.080 Dave Brat, libertarian, libertarian until he met Bannon.

00:44:32.500 Libertarian, libertarian, free markets, you, Dave Brat, worked at the World Bank, sir?

00:44:41.440 Yes.

00:44:41.980 Well, and, you know, a lot of people, you know, say I look like Brat Pitt, but this was over

00:44:47.220 30 years ago, so I'm older than you think.

00:44:49.500 But yeah, I was a little dweeb back then.

00:44:51.360 I was asked as a white guy, you can tell I'm kind of white, how I got in there on a regular

00:44:55.780 basis.

00:44:56.860 But I was in seminary working with the liberals.

00:44:59.480 The liberals all used to care about workers, and they used to care about endless wars,

00:45:04.080 and they used to care about borders even.

00:45:06.500 And the liberals disappeared on me.

00:45:08.580 And at the World Bank, there's so much internal corruption pre-dose.

00:45:11.900 30 years ago, there was corruption.

00:45:13.820 And so I'm glad Besson's on the track.

00:45:16.100 And we need to set all—we fund the World Bank, IMF, all the post-World War II liberal

00:45:20.840 Bretton Woods order.

00:45:22.460 We fund all of it.

00:45:23.460 The U.S. is the primary donor to all of it.

00:45:25.340 And they ought to be pursuing our logic to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:45:32.460 Hang over a second.

00:45:33.520 You're going to stick around with me.

00:45:34.900 Audience demands Brat to stick around.

00:45:36.880 First off, no one says you look like—no one calls you Brat Pitt except yourself.

00:45:42.620 What is this?

00:45:44.320 Talk about.

00:45:46.140 I got good comments on my humor on that.

00:45:49.480 The War Room Posse love that stuff.

00:45:51.140 They said make ban and crack up. 0.99

00:45:52.440 Incredible.

00:45:55.900 Brat's going to stick around.

00:45:57.040 We've got a lot more to go through.

00:45:58.280 And clearly, we're going to try to break down this whole thing on taxes, spending, all of it.

00:46:02.440 Because it's starting to heat up now.

00:46:03.640 They're coming back on Monday, finally.

00:46:06.200 I think Monday, maybe Tuesday.

00:46:08.820 I don't know how you can't be at work 24-7 on this thing.

00:46:11.840 Complete madness.

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00:48:58.920 Dave Bratt, Firestorm Overnight article in the Washington Post yesterday about President Trump

00:49:05.080 thinking of alternatives for taxes, and, of course, you've got the standard course

00:49:08.600 of the Grover Norquist's in the world and the New Gingrich's and all these guys coming out.

00:49:12.460 First thing they say, hey, you know, Bush, no new taxes, and he got wiped, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:17.320 They forget.

00:49:19.120 This is not raising tax on the wealthy.

00:49:21.900 This is a massive tax cut, a massive tax cut to the people that need it most,

00:49:27.260 upon whose shoulders rest the full faith and credit of the United States of America.

00:49:33.660 That would be the working class and middle class in this country that have been abused by the system.

00:49:39.380 Don't ask me.

00:49:40.820 Ask yourself in that little voice that you talk to yourself in, right?

00:49:44.740 Have you not worked as hard as I'll get at?

00:49:46.820 Have you not played by the rules?

00:49:48.080 Have you not been a good householder?

00:49:50.460 Are you not Edmund Burke's little platoons?

00:49:53.900 Have you not done everything up through the system, supporting the system, patriotic?

00:49:59.380 You don't need some phony commercial by some global corporation that's got the American flag waving and a couple of cowboys and some girls going square dancing for your patriotism.

00:50:11.660 It's your sons and daughters on those carrier battle groups in the Red Seas.

00:50:14.800 It's your kids that have walked patrolling the Hindu Kush.

00:50:17.620 It's your kids that are with the 101st Airborne 4 deployed to Romania, of all places, on the border of Ukraine.

00:50:26.560 You answer the call.

00:50:27.800 You pay your taxes.

00:50:28.940 You coach the little leagues and, you know, work at the Lions Club and do your lunches and, you know, build the community.

00:50:37.180 As Burke said, that's what the system's based upon.

00:50:40.680 Again, this is a massive tax cut for you, extension permanently to Trump tax cuts of 2017 for the working class and middle class, and in addition, additional big tax cuts.

00:50:52.020 No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security.

00:50:56.440 For a starter, when you do the math of the spending, and remember, if the elites don't like their taxes being raised, then guess what? 0.98

00:51:05.440 Get your running dog lobbyists in this town to start working on some cuts, not all the time, me, me, me, me, me, because the one thing President Trump is showing by going after the law firms and going after the universities, they're all pigs with their snouts in the trough. 0.98

00:51:23.220 Hey, Harvard, go do whatever the hell you want to. 0.99

00:51:25.560 I went there.

00:51:26.160 Go do whatever the hell you want to, but don't take billions of dollars, I think $9 billion of taxpayer money.

00:51:33.160 Go be what you want to be.

00:51:36.120 Go do it.

00:51:38.560 You know, University of Pennsylvania, Columbia, and Michigan, and Wisconsin out there, which they got to go to, because that to me is where the real problem is, not simply the Ivies. 0.98

00:51:49.200 It's not simply about anti-Semitism.

00:51:51.240 It's broader than that.

00:51:52.260 It's deeper than that.

00:51:53.920 They're anti-American.

00:51:55.120 These faculties and these administrators, until it's not, with Trump, you got, now's the time to set things right.

00:52:05.100 And this is why the frustration of folks, I understand, over DOJ, we're frustrated DOJ and FBI and others, not enough, not enough investigations, not enough people being walked out, not enough people, grand juries in front of grand juries, you're not breaking up the deep state fast enough.

00:52:20.620 But right now, what's before us right now is going to be the big, beautiful bill.

00:52:27.760 And the bond market is going to get a vote.

00:52:29.480 They already got a vote.

00:52:30.220 This thing that happened over the last couple of days is not just simply about the trade war and the tariffs.

00:52:35.280 It's also in the senior executive editor of North America for the Economist magazine that said on TV the other night.

00:52:43.960 It's also they look at the spending coming out of the big, beautiful bill.

00:52:47.880 As I warn you, you just don't have unlimited alternatives now.

00:52:51.600 You don't.

00:52:52.720 We're past that point.

00:52:53.920 You're narrowing and narrowing and narrowing. 0.96

00:52:57.640 And both the radical Democrats are the worst.

00:53:01.000 They want open borders and unlimited spending and don't care, and they run around like children.

00:53:06.080 But the controlled opposition of the Republican Party, the people now defending the elites from paying up or at least paying a little bit more, are the ones that went along and got tapped along the entire time on this spending and supported the wars in the Middle East and supported a whole lot more.

00:53:25.240 So the day of reckoning is here, folks.

00:53:29.440 The simple math is unless you raise the taxes at the upper bracket, the math doesn't work.

00:53:35.320 The math ain't that great with doing that.

00:53:38.240 But that's kind of a starter.

00:53:40.620 And so anybody who wants to show me the comeback with some math and, you know, what they're going to say is like what Elon said was going to be a 5% growth rate.

00:53:48.480 Well, Elon said a lot of stuff that none of it's turned out to be accurate.

00:53:52.480 Like, where's my two training cuts?

00:53:54.900 Uh-oh, where's my one training cuts?

00:53:56.600 Uh-oh, where's my 150 billion cuts?

00:53:58.680 Just show me any cut.

00:54:00.820 That's not programmatic because the programmatic were being done by other people.

00:54:05.400 Show me waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:54:07.840 You've been over the Pentagon for two months, bro.

00:54:11.240 That's a viper's nest of, wait for it, hang on, wait, wait, waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:54:17.620 I got nothing.

00:54:19.640 And you're going to have to cut the defense budget.

00:54:22.480 All these fantasies.

00:54:24.020 People run around to get fantasies.

00:54:26.560 They're fantasizing now.

00:54:28.960 The global bond market gets a vote here.

00:54:31.320 Don't forget the equity market, right?

00:54:33.760 That's just lowering the cost of equity capital for the companies.

00:54:37.580 It's important.

00:54:38.500 It's very important.

00:54:40.360 But it ain't the main thing.

00:54:42.160 The main thing is the bond market because the world's got $300 trillion of debt at every level.

00:54:47.940 And guess what we're having?

00:54:50.660 A margin call.

00:54:52.960 We try to learn you up here about why gold is a hedge.

00:54:56.060 If you learn that in the end of the dollar empire, it's now taught in college-level finance classes because it's quite simply pretty accessible.

00:55:04.380 Go to birchgold.com slash end of the dollar or slash ban and end of the dollar empire.

00:55:10.560 It's all free.

00:55:11.880 Free, free, free.

00:55:14.320 And we're doing a new update on the Rio Reset because the BRICS, they're sitting there. 1.00

00:55:19.780 They're no friends of the United States of America.

00:55:22.020 Trust me.

00:55:22.460 Chinese sitting there.

00:55:24.780 We've got to de-dollarize this system. 0.99

00:55:26.300 We're going to screw the Americans. 0.99

00:55:28.480 Understand that. 0.97

00:55:29.660 And you understand the way the world works.

00:55:36.080 Because you're not going to see it on cable TV chasing shiny toys.

00:55:39.960 Short break.

00:55:40.580 Back in a moment.

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00:56:07.680 You need to get ahead of this.

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2025

Episode 4433： Fighting The System That Is Working Against Americans For Over 50 Years

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