Bannon's War Room - April 25, 2025


Episode 4440： Empty Vatican; Meetings And Death In Moscow


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Todd McCartan and Tim Kennedy were in the Oval with President Trump the other day as he signed executive orders. They were there to witness the moment. They talk about how the mainstream media had no interest in what was going on.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.260 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.500 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.760 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.720 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.120 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.860 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.800 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.060 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.460 MAGA media.
00:00:28.360 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.240 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.360 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:00:52.080 Okay, we're going to have, I'm going to have Malpass back next week.
00:00:57.000 We're going to get more into the Trump-proofing of the agencies.
00:01:00.140 This is part of the administrative state.
00:01:01.660 And also the Trump-proofing of the international community.
00:01:04.380 Much more bricks, et cetera.
00:01:05.740 Fascinating guy.
00:01:07.400 And a real laboring war in the first Trump term, particularly international finance back then.
00:01:12.080 The Treasury was a, that was a grind.
00:01:13.700 As President Trump at that time, tried to read what, everything he's doing now in trade, spent two years at the beginning of his administration.
00:01:20.740 The 2019 deal with the Chinese was stunning. 1.00
00:01:25.520 How detailed, and they just walked away from it.
00:01:27.320 That's why you can't trust them.
00:01:28.580 Walked away from it.
00:01:29.360 And shortly thereafter, what happened, Wuhan lab, the military games where the pandemic started.
00:01:38.580 So we'll get more into that.
00:01:41.420 So much going on.
00:01:42.400 We are jammed today.
00:01:43.560 Ben's going to be with us from Rome.
00:01:45.780 We've got a lot going on.
00:01:46.660 The president is en route.
00:01:48.180 We're going to get, we'll get to all that.
00:01:49.880 The, I'm going to, I got Tim Kent.
00:01:53.920 Now, so the other day we were live in the Oval as President Trump does these signs of executive orders and, and, and, and does these press avails.
00:02:04.960 Tim's going to come on.
00:02:05.900 I want to talk about, Tim was there.
00:02:07.140 I want to talk about the executive orders and what happened.
00:02:09.200 It was very moving.
00:02:10.780 Obviously, there was so much news President Trump was breaking at the time that we jumped on the news.
00:02:16.560 And Tim Kennedy now joins us.
00:02:18.400 Tim, you were there.
00:02:19.880 What was going on in the Oval?
00:02:21.880 We saw some of these American heroes there.
00:02:23.660 President Trump is obviously very close to these folks.
00:02:25.960 He signed these executive orders.
00:02:27.780 Tell us what, what happened and who was, who was in the Oval with you guys?
00:02:32.980 We had about a half a dozen wounded veterans, amputees, guys that were fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, obviously kind of pouring their souls out about the state of veteran affairs.
00:02:45.000 Doug Collins, Secretary Collins, his work there.
00:02:47.380 But President Trump, man, what an absolute gem.
00:02:51.820 He's taken pens, signing these guys' legs.
00:02:54.800 He's giving them, you know, the President Troy, the President coin.
00:02:59.100 And these guys were literally crying in the Oval Office.
00:03:03.020 And then in walks the legacy media.
00:03:04.980 They don't care.
00:03:06.080 They barely, even only one person acknowledged them.
00:03:09.560 And Trump and just his brilliance went immediately to the executive orders.
00:03:14.820 And those were groundbreaking.
00:03:16.380 But they didn't even care about those.
00:03:18.780 These were reforms in education.
00:03:21.060 They were reforms in trade and commerce, international relationships.
00:03:23.940 And all they wanted to do was hit talking points, you know, trying to get gotcha moments with the President as he's surrounded by wounded veterans.
00:03:32.640 It was wild to be in there.
00:03:34.480 But to watch that man work for two hours was an absolute joy.
00:03:37.880 So, Todd, you were in there before when the media came in.
00:03:42.940 I want to go back to that.
00:03:44.000 The mainstream media that were just hitting him with a wall of questions.
00:03:47.780 They had no interest in the veterans.
00:03:49.760 No interest in what had just transpired.
00:03:51.540 And less than no interest in President Trump's executive orders.
00:03:54.600 No, no, they, you know, to that, Steve, we wheeled a couple of these guys in in wheelchairs, a couple of them with, you know, double amputees walking in, guys missing arms.
00:04:07.560 And, you know, the veteran affairs right now, they're in just like the rest of the government.
00:04:12.640 A lot of transition, radical change under Secretary Collins.
00:04:16.780 You know, the intelligence community is fighting against embedded operatives, partisan operatives.
00:04:21.200 And we're seeing that across the whole entire government right now.
00:04:24.020 So, we wheel these guys in.
00:04:26.120 And President Trump, each and every single one of them, sincerely thanks from the bottom of his heart.
00:04:31.800 One year ago to the day, we were with President Trump again as he was talking about veteran issues.
00:04:37.520 And half of the guys in the room had President Trump visit them while they were in their hospital beds.
00:04:45.020 Just such a remarkable statement about how much attention he was giving to our wounded heroes, to our veterans.
00:04:53.460 And, you know, and even by extension to the military, making sure that this type of thing is preventable in the future because our adversaries are now scared to death about what the American military is going to look like in a couple of years.
00:05:04.920 And you can tell that President Trump, it's a bond there that you can't break.
00:05:13.380 It's not some phony politician coming in for a photo op.
00:05:15.960 I want to talk – one of the things that he was having a good time with and the guys were having a good time with, but I just want to make sure he got it right.
00:05:23.480 The thing about he kept asking guys like, I think it was the coin, what color do you want?
00:05:27.180 And they kept saying black.
00:05:28.400 Is that – was he giving his presidential coin to him?
00:05:31.280 What was it?
00:05:31.920 They seemed like they were all choosing black.
00:05:34.420 And he goes, hey, I guess it's just an army thing or I guess it's just a military thing, right?
00:05:37.740 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:05:39.340 The military coin has a long legacy and heritage.
00:05:42.820 You know, guys, I carry one around in my pocket from my first tour, combat tour to Afghanistan.
00:05:49.880 So, you know, you can get coin checked.
00:05:52.020 But what the president has done, you know, he has this, of course, incredible, beautiful, gaudy gold coin.
00:05:59.140 And we – Sarah Verardo, the founder of the Independence Fund, she said, hey, guys, you can't – just don't ask him for anything.
00:06:05.940 But, of course, in his generosity, he immediately offers the coins to the guys.
00:06:09.340 A couple of guys are like fully emotional.
00:06:11.500 And then by – even furthermore, he has two coins.
00:06:14.560 One of them is this bright gold President Trump coin.
00:06:17.480 And then he has a gunmetal gray made from gunmetal coin.
00:06:21.640 And he gave every single one of those guys both of his coins.
00:06:25.520 These veterans losing their mind.
00:06:27.640 They're so excited.
00:06:29.400 And, you know, so he was going back and forth.
00:06:31.620 Which one do you like more?
00:06:32.460 Or do you like the gold, like the Trump gold?
00:06:34.840 Or do you like the military gunmetal gray?
00:06:37.920 And, you know, it was a really sweet moment to see the politician barrier come down and to see the real Trump not in front of a camera, just in front of real men that fought for him.
00:06:51.380 And just incredible.
00:06:52.840 That's the bond.
00:06:53.860 You can't break that bond.
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00:08:56.800 Talk to me about the predictive modeling and what people are going to be thinking about.
00:08:59.740 When they're thinking about planning for their own family's future, I know it's all open source.
00:09:03.600 But just when you say the resist movement in both foreign and domestic, this is what I tried to say at this speech last night.
00:09:09.000 I gave the keynote address here with the folks at the conference.
00:09:16.300 You know, we have converging crises before us, right, economic and financial.
00:09:21.220 You've got the kinetic part of the Third World War in Ukraine, in the Middle East, at least right now, may be expanding unless President Trump can somehow try to stop it.
00:09:31.360 You've got the deportation issues, which are going to be huge because you've got 10 million people going.
00:09:36.260 We're going to have a constitutional crisis because they're going to challenge President Trump.
00:09:39.580 And we just had David Malpass here who takes a different perspective of you.
00:09:43.520 But he also said the resist movement of Trump proofing the government against President Trump's changes, of Trump proofing international finance so that President Trump can't make the changes.
00:09:52.640 He goes – and he says the resist movement is both in the imperial capital of D.C. and it's in every financial capital of the world.
00:09:59.040 So when you look and you get this predictive modeling told to you, walk me through what you see as the next couple of years.
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00:10:28.100 what were the things that happened before that for a coup?
00:10:32.240 All right, we're going to see civil unrest.
00:10:33.540 We're going to see military doing certain types of activities around capitals or near borders.
00:10:38.460 You're going to see the civilian populace with these partisan issues, and then you're going to see catalysts that kind of kick these things off.
00:10:45.440 Well, when you have now hundreds of years of data, thousands of years of data, it gets really accurate about how it can predict.
00:10:52.580 But about the resist element within our government, when you look at Director Collins, Secretary Hegseth, and Secretary Collins,
00:11:04.020 each – especially in the intelligence community from Kash Patel to Pam Bondi to Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Kent, Dr. Gorka,
00:11:10.760 you have true patriots that are trying to make radical change to save our constitutional republic.
00:11:19.240 But just one degree down, you have these embedded operatives that are resisting them judicially.
00:11:27.040 We see lawyers and we see judges that are without a doubt making bias and inappropriate non-constitutional decisions,
00:11:36.100 going against the wishes of the administration, trying to slow everything.
00:11:40.840 Then we see legislatively people trying to prevent people from being confirmed and just slowing the process to try to make this government less effective.
00:11:49.580 And then the next order effect is our peer-level adversaries are fighting us via proxies economically, diplomatically, informationally,
00:11:59.800 using Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis in Haiti, in Syria, the Taliban in Afghanistan.
00:12:07.660 Those regions are intentionally being destabilized because we have to spend effort and time to try to stabilize these regions so they don't become breeding grounds.
00:12:16.540 But it's a proxy war against our enemies, which is part of the resist movement because the people inside of the government
00:12:22.700 and the large corporations that benefit from perpetual war are still trying to keep this ship going.
00:12:30.500 And they are being really brilliant about it, and we're in a dangerous time in history.
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00:13:50.180 Tim Kennedy, thank you, and thank you for doing everything you do for the vets
00:13:53.720 and having folks.
00:13:55.860 That Oval Office thing was quite impressive, just very moving.
00:13:58.640 I know President Trump, it's such a high priority for him.
00:14:04.700 Thank you, Tim.
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00:16:09.180 I'm going to Rome, where we'll be attending the funeral of Pope Francis.
00:16:15.220 Some of you are going to go.
00:16:16.780 Anybody going?
00:16:18.360 And it's going to be very interesting.
00:16:21.100 We're going to meet with a lot of the foreign leaders they want to meet.
00:16:24.460 Trade deals are going very well.
00:16:27.000 I think Russia and Ukraine, I think they're coming along, we hope. 0.72
00:16:32.000 Very fragile.
00:16:33.760 And Iran, I think, is going very well.
00:16:35.820 We'll see what happens.
00:16:36.720 We're working on plenty of things that shouldn't be worked on, because none of this stuff should have happened.
00:16:42.140 This should have been taken place by Biden.
00:16:44.080 It should have been fixed by Biden.
00:16:46.060 But he couldn't do it, nor could he come close to doing.
00:16:48.840 So, anyway, we're going to Rome to fair respects, and we'll be leaving that same day.
00:16:55.380 We'll be coming back home tomorrow night.
00:16:57.740 And I'll see some of you over there.
00:16:59.780 Otherwise, I'll see you on television.
00:17:01.920 Yeah, take a look around me.
00:17:03.220 This exact spot was jam-packed with people last night, lining up to see the body of Pope Francis lying in state inside of St. Peter's Basilica.
00:17:14.260 But right now, it's really thinned out.
00:17:16.860 There's no line around me whatsoever.
00:17:19.620 And the numbers reflect that.
00:17:21.460 According to the Vatican, 50,000 people walked by the body of Pope Francis in the first 24 hours.
00:17:27.420 It sounds impressive, but you compare that to John Paul II when he died, and it was 10 times that number.
00:17:34.900 Half a million people walked by John Paul II to see his body in the first 24 hours.
00:17:43.680 Okay, Ben Harnwell joins us from Rome.
00:17:46.780 Ben, I want to start with the—about the lack, as you called it, War Room called it.
00:17:53.240 There's no outpouring for this guy.
00:17:54.600 You absolutely called it in the first five minutes you were down at St. Peter's.
00:17:59.180 And then I want to talk about the president going.
00:18:01.080 We've got more international news breaking that we're going to play after we finish with this part with Ben around.
00:18:07.860 Ben, right there.
00:18:09.720 And, of course, they go into a big excuse.
00:18:11.480 He's from Argentina, and, you know, John Paul was from Poland.
00:18:15.540 There's so many people there.
00:18:16.260 There were 500,000 people, individuals, went past the coffin of—to pay their respects in St. Peter's Basilica with John Paul II in the first 24 hours, as CBS reported.
00:18:31.640 Less than 50,000 here.
00:18:34.080 Of course, they're trying to find every excuse in the world since they played up how the world was so emotional and so distraught about this.
00:18:42.760 Ben Harnwell.
00:18:43.260 Steve, good morning to you.
00:18:45.980 Well, I'm glad we had the opportunity to play that CBS clip there because it absolutely confirms 1,000 percent the Warren's hot take on this situation on Easter Monday of this week.
00:18:57.740 Look, I've been talking about—I've been roaming every day of this week, sort of milling around, talking to people, sort of gauging the temperature of the water, as it were.
00:19:06.380 And it's exactly as I was saying right from the moment on Easter Monday itself, the day Pope, inverted commas, Francis, died.
00:19:13.900 There is no great affection for him, which is a bit counterintuitive if your sources of information are the mainstream media.
00:19:23.780 And this is the point.
00:19:24.760 The only people who really are going to miss this guy are journalists in the mainstream media.
00:19:29.900 Because he would—firstly, because he rang all of their bells, right, there's nothing the mainstream media likes more than someone inside the Catholic Church undermining the Catholic Church's teaching to win secular approval and plaudits.
00:19:46.000 And he had a great turn of phrase.
00:19:50.460 He was very good at coming up with expressions.
00:19:53.200 So, Steve, basically, he was a great copy.
00:19:55.600 Of course, mainstream media journalists are going to miss him.
00:20:00.020 Now, you might have noticed that the Vatican put out a statement today saying that tomorrow, the funeral, they're expecting some 200,000 people to attend that funeral.
00:20:09.880 Steve, I didn't know there were 200,000 journalists in the world to attend this funeral, because they're going to be the only people there.
00:20:18.720 The barometer for this, exactly as I said this on Monday, is there were no crying nuns.
00:20:25.900 If there was real, genuine affection for this Pope, there would have been crying nuns with the tears down the face beneath the apostolic palace praying the rosary.
00:20:36.900 And there wasn't any. It was just tourists mending around, wandering around, indifferent.
00:20:42.100 So, Steve, what does this mean for the future of the church, for the conclave?
00:20:46.340 Why is this important?
00:20:47.780 Because it's evidence that for all of his vaunted liberalism and openness, this so-called pontificate didn't land with the faithful.
00:21:00.820 And that's really important.
00:21:01.980 It may have won all the plaudits in the mainstream media, but it didn't resonate with ordinary church-going Catholics.
00:21:09.900 So the cardinals are going to have a choice at this conclave, and it's going to be very, very interesting to see which road they take.
00:21:17.640 They are, if you will, at a fork in the road on this.
00:21:21.340 Which road are they going to take?
00:21:22.500 Are they going to double down on Francis' militant secularism, or will they try and walk it back?
00:21:29.780 I don't – and that is to say, to walk it back slightly into a position of more moderacy.
00:21:34.960 I don't believe we're going to be seeing a conservative crowd at this conclave.
00:21:39.360 But there are various shades, if you will, of modernism.
00:21:43.300 And that's where the fundamental question is.
00:21:46.180 If you give me a moment to add a personal observation, Steve, as a practicing Catholic on this,
00:21:51.280 just taking a step back, it is absurd that a church of 1.1 billion notional Catholics still has this incredibly medieval way of picking its earthly leader.
00:22:08.380 It may have worked, of course, a thousand years ago when there were no means of constant communication and no means of active participation.
00:22:16.980 But this current system that we have is patronizing and shows a great deal of contempt for the laity.
00:22:23.380 And we're the ones that have to pay – you know, it's our collection to take money that keeps the Catholic church going on a day-to-day basis.
00:22:30.540 I think that the official church hierarchy has shown nothing but contempt for the laity and incompetence of running the church from the sexual – the priestly sex scandals onwards.
00:22:42.920 I think it is absolutely necessary for the laity to have a greater role in the running of the church.
00:22:48.720 That includes the picking of the bishops and then includes the picking of the pope.
00:22:55.720 That's close to – for Catholicism, isn't that close to heresy?
00:23:01.240 I mean it almost sounds like for our Protestant brethren, that is how someone in the church would think that Protestants are much more engaged in who their minister is or in picking their ministers or going to church with certain ministers in the Catholic church.
00:23:15.480 You've got to perish and you kind of get dealt with what the bishop deals you and they call the shots.
00:23:21.840 And this is one of the issues with the pedophilia scandal.
00:23:24.660 The priest – it's a very hierarchical run to a priest caste.
00:23:29.180 Are you calling for revolution?
00:23:31.620 You're essentially calling for the precinct strategy in the Catholic church that you saw it where we've revolutionized the Republican Party and turned into a worker in a middle-class party with direct engagement through the use of your human agency.
00:23:46.800 Are you calling for that in the church?
00:23:48.760 And isn't that against, if not the theology of the church, essentially custom and tradition for a couple of thousand years, sir?
00:24:00.180 Wonderful, beautiful question, Steve.
00:24:02.140 Yeah, look, I'm absolutely calling for the maglalization of the Catholic church, a thousand percent. 0.71
00:24:07.900 Yes, I am doing.
00:24:08.980 But in terms of the – isn't this the Protestantization of the church?
00:24:12.820 Well, we had the Protestantization of the church in the Second Vatican Council, basically, in the liturgy,
00:24:18.380 when the church ditched all of the specifically Catholic elements of its practice and belief.
00:24:27.100 What we maintained was simply the secular power structure, right?
00:24:31.020 Which is that – now, that's the thing, obviously, that the churchmen are going to fight to the last ditch in order to preserve their prerogatives of power, of course.
00:24:40.400 However, when I mentioned the idea that the laity should be in charge – yeah, the laity should actually be in charge of electing the pope.
00:24:50.680 That actually used to be the position of the Catholic church one and a half thousand years ago.
00:24:55.880 So it was the people of Rome, by acclamation, that picked the successor to St. Peter.
00:25:03.160 Then, after a couple of hundred years, it basically fell down to the Roman families, and they sort of had – they did sort of a bugging's turn between them for a few couple of hundred years. 0.68
00:25:12.700 And then, eventually, this contemporary system of cardinal took the position.
00:25:18.380 So, by the way, the point, as I'm saying, is that it's actually going back to the church's original position.
00:25:23.620 And this is the tragedy of the institutional Catholic church.
00:25:26.960 When it comes to power and money, they will fight with tooth and nail to protect their positions, their prerogatives, their privileges.
00:25:37.300 When it comes to the rule of Jesus Christ on earth, they're the first to give up, to run away, and to cower in fear behind the secular powers of this world.
00:25:50.580 Everything in the contemporary Catholic church is upside down.
00:25:54.420 And you know what?
00:25:54.960 It's the laity, the believing Catholic laity now that has the faith, rather than the sort of piling shepherd that was supposed to keep in their marble palaces and their privileges.
00:26:06.520 I thousand percent believe if you look what MAGA has done, what, if you will, the laity has done, taking over the Republican Party in the United States, that can only be a good thing if we bring the same thing to the Catholic church, because our Catholic leadership isn't Catholic, and the laity is. 0.55
00:26:26.080 Amazing.
00:26:29.080 Ben, can you hang around for a moment?
00:26:32.360 I want to hold you through, because we have breaking news out of Ukraine and out of Russia, and President Trump is deeply engaged in this negotiation.
00:26:41.340 As you know, he's getting a little short on temper, about this, about the continual assaults and attacks and the recalcitrance of the Zelensky degree to economic deal or anything.
00:26:51.340 One thing I want to say before we go to break, this was about the part of Francis or Bergoglio's papacy that struck me the most, to your point, was when he had the Amazon pagans kind of over in the Vatican and St. Peter's doing ceremonies.
00:27:07.520 And some sort of conference they had on paganism or for this religion, and the pagans, who were indigenous people from the Amazon, obviously pagans as a pagan ritual, but they had more sincerity about their rituals than the highest hierarchy of the Catholic church.
00:27:27.360 The young Austrian that took their symbol and threw it in the Tiber did it as a stroke to get back to original Catholicism, and they demonized him. 0.60
00:27:35.900 It was a shocking moment when you realized that they don't, the hierarchy of the church aren't really that Catholic.
00:27:43.440 They won't fight for Catholic doctrine.
00:27:45.780 But the pagans were very sincere about theirs.
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00:29:34.220 The Time magazine correspondent, that interview with Eric by President Trump and Grace Pusha,
00:29:52.360 I don't think it's behind a paywall, so everybody gets to read it, but it's got so many blockbuster scoops in there.
00:29:57.540 It's already caused turmoil in financial markets because the guy asked very tough questions, hard questions, which President Trump loves.
00:30:06.840 What he hates is the gotcha sneak question, right, which is most of the mainstream media.
00:30:10.460 So these are tough.
00:30:11.480 It's a magnificent interview.
00:30:12.840 You see Trump as kind of we see him every day with these press avails, but very smart.
00:30:18.140 Headline in Bloomberg right now.
00:30:21.200 Folks, I'm just saying Trump 28.
00:30:23.200 Come on, man.
00:30:23.720 Headline, Trump says he loves millionaire tax.
00:30:28.540 Let me repeat that.
00:30:29.540 Trump says he loves millionaire tax, worries about political risk, the political risk.
00:30:36.760 He talks about his reelect.
00:30:39.520 He talks about, hey, you know, they're convincing the Bush language, President Trump, that is one billion percent wrong.
00:30:46.260 You're giving a massive tax cut to working class and middle class people.
00:30:50.360 Massive.
00:30:50.800 We've got to figure out how to pay for it somewhere.
00:30:53.740 It's the millionaires.
00:30:54.700 It's not tax.
00:30:55.380 You're just not giving an extension of the tax cuts they got.
00:30:58.980 And Bush raised it for everybody and kind of lied to people, although maybe did it for a good reason at the time.
00:31:03.420 He misled people.
00:31:05.460 And that's why it's, you know, and the tax guys have been all over.
00:31:08.660 They don't care.
00:31:09.220 They want billionaires to pay nothing, zero, because they get paid more retainers.
00:31:12.840 That's how it works.
00:31:14.140 These people who see them to you, they're all paid by the billionaires.
00:31:16.180 This shows two things.
00:31:19.940 Number one, President Trump agrees with us.
00:31:22.380 He loves the millionaires' tax.
00:31:24.180 Doesn't like it.
00:31:24.800 Loves it.
00:31:26.000 But he worries about the political risk.
00:31:27.520 That's because he's running again in 2028.
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00:34:17.500 Before I leave you, we had Tim Kennedy on.
00:34:20.400 He was there with the veterans, particularly the amputees, and the story is that President Trump had visited many of these when he was in his first term in the hospitals in Walter Reed and other places,
00:34:31.120 and then they came back.
00:34:32.120 He signed an executive orders around the veterans.
00:34:35.540 You've been there for so many times.
00:34:36.820 What's the special bond that President Trump has, not just with that, but particularly war fighters, people that have been in it?
00:34:45.580 You know, the people that have really been the tip of the spear and been in the gunfights.
00:34:50.540 What is this special connection that the hardest of the heart in our military seem to have with the president?
00:34:56.040 Yeah, I think the connection is that people think that President Trump legitimately cares.
00:35:03.820 It's not a show for the press.
00:35:06.040 He actually cares about the war fighters, and you saw that in his first term.
00:35:11.300 There was a Navy SEAL, Ryan Owens, who was killed in Yemen, and President Trump went above and beyond for him and his wife and his family.
00:35:20.000 I mean, and Trump wants to wind down the wars.
00:35:23.220 He uses the military, but when he uses the military, he lets them win.
00:35:27.620 He lets them hit hard.
00:35:29.280 He takes the leash off, and people appreciate that.
00:35:34.440 I think all the war fighters just love Trump because he loves us.
00:35:39.260 He loves veterans.
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00:36:26.100 Thank you, brother.
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00:36:28.840 I appreciate you, too.
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00:37:06.300 Let's go ahead and play.
00:37:07.260 We still have President Trump is a peacemaker.
00:37:09.920 He's trying to remember peace is the predicate for world prosperity.
00:37:14.400 He's trying to get everybody to lay their guns down.
00:37:16.620 We got some updates from an area of the world that's quite frustrating to President Trump.
00:37:21.180 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:37:22.060 We'll bring Ben back in.
00:37:22.940 In the war in Ukraine, Russian authorities say a senior Russian military commander was killed when a vehicle exploded in a Moscow suburb.
00:37:30.380 Take a look at these pictures.
00:37:32.200 The commander is the latest senior Russian military figure to be killed in a car bombing since the war began more than three years ago.
00:37:39.060 That occurred just hours before President Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, met with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Moscow.
00:37:46.180 Kremlin aide tells Reuters the two men met for three hours and that there was a discussion of renewing negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
00:37:54.520 Right now, we don't take a solution.
00:37:58.900 Right now, a lot of conversation about possible solution.
00:38:05.720 And one of the scenario, what you say is to give up the territory.
00:38:11.840 It's not fair.
00:38:13.500 But for the peace, temporary peace, maybe it can't be a solution.
00:38:20.260 Temporary.
00:38:20.700 Do you and President Zelensky, as you say, you are in charge of the Donations Capital, do you and he talk about what the answer might be?
00:38:32.780 No.
00:38:33.560 No.
00:38:34.700 Should you?
00:38:35.760 You're an important man.
00:38:37.000 Maybe you should be invited to those conversations.
00:38:42.340 President Zelensky don't think so.
00:38:44.580 But you think so.
00:38:45.760 You would like to be invited.
00:38:46.940 It's not my function, first of all, and it's a function of President Zelensky.
00:38:58.220 Okay.
00:38:58.800 Right there.
00:38:59.300 Ben Harnwell, let's cut you back in from Rome.
00:39:02.820 Number one, a senior commander in the Russian military for Ukraine, mysteriously blown up, assassinated in Moscow.
00:39:09.680 Don't know if that's Ukrainian intelligence or maybe it's something related to Moscow.
00:39:17.180 And then you've got the mayor.
00:39:18.800 And the mayor is an opponent of Zelensky.
00:39:20.560 Zelensky has not been – you know, Biden never made him go and actually be a democracy and have another election.
00:39:27.340 Put this in perspective.
00:39:28.320 President Trump – the Russians just hit Kiev the other day.
00:39:31.100 He was so frustrated.
00:39:31.980 He said, hey, Putin, you've got to knock this off.
00:39:34.240 President Trump's getting shorter and shorter about Zelensky saying they're never going to give him Crimea.
00:39:38.840 Zelensky has not still signed the economic deal.
00:39:41.980 He tells Time magazine, hey, I was just kind of kidding about 24 hours.
00:39:46.380 Everybody knew that couldn't happen.
00:39:47.880 But he implied that, you know, following Ben Harnwell's advice, he's not going to get sucked in to months and months and months of negotiation.
00:39:56.620 Tell us what's going on, particularly this mayor.
00:40:00.140 We understand he's an anti-Zelensky guy.
00:40:02.040 Is this guy going to have any role in these discussions?
00:40:05.820 Well, let's break this down.
00:40:07.640 First, I think this week, next week, we're coming up to the 100th day, the psychologically important, the psychologically crucial 100th day mark since President Trump's inauguration.
00:40:18.480 And America hasn't disengaged from Ukraine.
00:40:21.160 And, of course, the president is saying he's not going to get sucked in.
00:40:23.820 But that is exactly what is happening.
00:40:25.220 He is getting sucked in.
00:40:26.880 You mentioned the Russian general who was killed in the car bomb.
00:40:31.160 By my calculations, that's the 21st Russian general to be killed since the start of the Russian invasion.
00:40:38.740 This is a tit-for-tat.
00:40:39.740 It's happening on both sides.
00:40:41.540 The Kiev mayor, Vitaly Klitschko, a former boxing champion, there is no love lost between him and Zelensky.
00:40:52.240 There's a far worse relationship between him and the other major principal rival for the presidency, Valery Zelensky, who's been exiled as Ukraine's ambassador to London.
00:41:08.880 What is interesting about this guy, Zelensky has a slightly better relationship.
00:41:14.780 I mean, the two of them talk, at least.
00:41:16.960 These two guys famously haven't spoken for quite some time.
00:41:21.020 What is interesting, Steve?
00:41:22.480 I think this is the first time I've seen really anyone important on the Ukrainian side starting to talk openly about recognizing the reality on the ground.
00:41:35.140 Let's call it that.
00:41:36.980 The American side has done it.
00:41:39.140 The Russians have obviously been doing it as part of Putin's negotiating position.
00:41:43.260 I think President Putin this morning or yesterday reiterated this fact that he's ready to pause the war on contemporary, on the present contemporary battle lines.
00:41:53.360 What is interesting about the mayor of Kiev saying this and being the first Ukrainian to do so, the first important Ukrainian politician to do so, is that he is a contender for the presidency, as I mentioned, Ambassador Zelensky.
00:42:09.280 The importance being, Steve, even if most of the attention, I think, is focusing towards ambassadors, as the principal opposition.
00:42:22.080 What is interesting is that for this guy, Mayor Vitaly Klitschko, to come out and say this, it's a political calculation that he is making.
00:42:32.320 This is the importance of this.
00:42:33.620 It's a political calculation that he is making because he realizes his future potential electorate, or even better, his future potential selectorate, no longer wants to fight this war and is ready to compromise on the present territorial lines.
00:42:51.940 That's the important thing, Steve, I think, about Mayor Klitschko coming out and saying this.
00:42:55.880 To use the boxing metaphor, he's given Zelensky a one-two jab to the head.
00:43:03.620 On this, because he knows the appetite for war has died down.
00:43:09.240 Hang on.
00:43:10.280 Hang on.
00:43:11.400 We're going to take a short break.
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00:46:13.620 Brother Harnwell, you've got some closing thoughts on the president.
00:46:16.220 He's en route to Rome right now.
00:46:17.680 Closing thoughts.
00:46:19.540 Thanks, Steve.
00:46:20.240 Look, a couple of people have said to me, asked me, why is President Trump going to the funeral of a man who clearly hated him, hated his movement, hated his ideas, hated everything that MAGA stands for?
00:46:34.000 And I come up with two suggestions.
00:46:36.000 He's going fundamentally to pay his respects to the papal office rather than its occupant.
00:46:43.280 That's the first thing.
00:46:44.360 And the second thing is because I think he is cementing his status as the leader of Christendom.
00:46:54.300 And he'll cement that status if he goes to the scene at the funeral.
00:46:58.640 And what I mean by that is not only the political leader of Christendom, the whole of Christianity around the world, but also I think he's increasingly being seen as the spiritual leader of fighting those Christian values.
00:47:13.460 And that is because Pope Francis himself vacated that territory.
00:47:17.860 So that's another thing I think that reason that people should be able to look at why President Trump might be going to the funeral of someone who so clearly loathes him.
00:47:27.480 The third thing.
00:47:28.920 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on real quickly, because this is Notre Dame was another massive moment.
00:47:37.260 But people in the progressives that watch this show, because they have to for news, heads are blowing up.
00:47:43.280 How is a man that's not particularly churchy, right?
00:47:46.720 How are you saying he's the spiritual leader of – he's the leader of Christendom, not just politically, but he's the leader of Christendom spiritually?
00:47:54.540 Ben Harnwell.
00:47:55.120 Because people who are motivated by their Christian faith, not just Catholics, but also our great friends and brethren, the evangelicals, people who are motivated by their faith in Jesus Christ, look to Donald Trump to defend those values and to give them sustenance and reality, even on a spiritual level.
00:48:17.800 We know that President Trump isn't a holy Joe.
00:48:21.180 He doesn't pretend to be a holy Joe.
00:48:23.500 But frankly, neither do our cardinals or churchmen either.
00:48:28.140 So if it's a choice of pretty much atheistic cardinals who are on the take, who have contempt for the Catholic faith, or Donald J. Trump, who shows a great openness to the Catholic faith, who are you going to look to for the spiritual sustenance?
00:48:47.000 I know who I would pick for that.
00:48:48.860 My third and closing point on this, Steve, and it's a bit frivolous, but I would say this to the President Trump.
00:48:56.360 Mr. President, great.
00:48:57.880 I love the idea that you're going to annex Greenland.
00:49:01.000 I love the idea that you're going to annex Canada.
00:49:04.140 But might I gently suggest for your 51st state annex, the Vatican City State, make that your first annexation, and then impose a genuine Catholic pope for us.
00:49:19.760 And it will be the first Catholic pope that we've had since 1958.
00:49:24.200 I just want to throw that idea out there, Stephen Parker.
00:49:27.880 What a great, beautiful addition to the Union, Steve, the Vatican City State.
00:49:35.640 Let's make that America.
00:49:37.000 Let's make that America.
00:49:39.760 There's so many heads on the left and the right blown up.
00:49:42.480 Okay, Ben, where do they go to abuse you and your social media?
00:49:46.140 Get my social media platform of choice.
00:49:50.340 Tap in my surname, at Harnwell.
00:49:52.600 And I've got some brilliant, provocative posts at the top of my feed waiting for your consideration.
00:49:59.160 Thanks, Steve.
00:49:59.620 Thanks very much.
00:50:00.140 God bless.
00:50:00.560 Catch you tomorrow.
00:50:02.280 And Ben's going to be with us tomorrow.
00:50:03.880 We're going to do a lot.
00:50:04.660 The pope is buried tomorrow.
00:50:05.820 President Trump and leaders of the world are going to be there.
00:50:07.620 It's going to be quite amazing.
00:50:10.220 Ben Harnwell will join us at 10 a.m.
00:50:12.240 Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow morning.
00:50:13.660 Ben, thank you so much.
00:50:14.680 Appreciate you.
00:50:15.200 Thanks, Steve.
00:50:16.880 God bless.
00:50:19.440 Mike Lindell, is your, is Lindell, did we get Mike?
00:50:22.980 Is his voice any better?
00:50:24.060 Mike Lindell, is your voice any better?
00:50:26.340 Well, I'm not singing yet, but it is a little better.
00:50:30.320 Yeah.
00:50:31.560 Thanks, everybody.
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00:52:05.640 We'll see you tonight, buddy.
00:52:06.780 Take care of that voice.
00:52:08.040 Sounding better, but not sounding great yet.
00:52:11.860 What a warrior.
00:52:13.280 Has surgery four times on his throat.
00:52:15.360 Still back at work.
00:52:16.800 Charlie Kirk, next.
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00:52:20.800 Eric Bolling, I'll do the shift over from Bolling.
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