Bannon's War Room - May 06, 2025


Episode 4464： America First Not Big Pharma And Big Business First; Updates On Ed Martin


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

185.05553

Word Count

10,343

Sentence Count

922

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

On this episode of the Wall Street Journal's "No King Day" podcast, we talk about the massive protests that took place across the country on May Day and the impact they are having on the economy and the world. We also discuss the gold price surge and what it says about the direction of the markets.


Transcript

00:00:00.600 We've spent a lot of time covering sort of the character and the effect of protests of all kinds around the country.
00:00:07.660 A lot of those organized through Indivisible, a lot of them organized through 5051 and other groups.
00:00:12.920 What is the basic idea, the specific idea, I guess, around June 14th?
00:00:18.980 Look, Donald Trump wants to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to throw himself a big fancy parade with tanks in the streets.
00:00:28.120 And on one level, this is ridiculous, right?
00:00:31.640 But he is doing this for a reason.
00:00:33.920 This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook.
00:00:36.880 He wants to project strength.
00:00:38.740 He wants everybody to think that he is all powerful, that he rules the world.
00:00:44.040 He doesn't. He doesn't.
00:00:45.780 As we said on that website, look, real power is not in D.C.
00:00:50.480 It's distributed all across the country.
00:00:53.760 And what we're looking to do on No King's Day is to say, look, Donald Trump does not own the flag.
00:01:00.440 He does not own patriotism.
00:01:02.480 In fact, we can all show up in opposition to a king in this country.
00:01:09.140 And this isn't about any individual organization.
00:01:12.080 This is about all of us.
00:01:13.780 Whether you are from the faith community, whether you're a veteran, whether you're an activist, whether you're a teacher, you can be part of this.
00:01:21.260 As you mentioned, there are 100 events so far.
00:01:23.560 This has been up for the weekend, available to register events.
00:01:27.080 I would expect over 1,000.
00:01:28.700 We saw 1,100 for May Day protests.
00:01:30.780 We saw over 1,300 events all across the world for April 5th hands off.
00:01:35.660 If you are watching this right now and you are thinking, well, I don't want a king in this country, good news, neither do we.
00:01:42.240 And you can be part of this.
00:01:44.100 Look up.
00:01:44.820 See if you've got an event near you.
00:01:46.140 If you don't, congratulations.
00:01:47.360 Congratulations, you are going to be the organizer for an event in your community.
00:01:51.300 We need them in rural communities.
00:01:52.820 We need them in urban communities.
00:01:54.080 We need them in red states and purple states and blue states.
00:01:56.780 Ultimately, this comes down to all of us.
00:01:59.260 We have got to do the work to show that, yes, this is a constitutional republic, and a constitutional republic has no kings.
00:02:05.600 We're showing up to send a message to everybody else who is looking to their left and looking to their right and trying to decide, what do I do?
00:02:13.580 And as you said, this is law firms.
00:02:15.500 This is universities.
00:02:16.580 This is businesses.
00:02:18.140 People are trying to understand, is this guy for real?
00:02:20.920 Is he in power forever?
00:02:22.480 Do I have to adjust to this new reality permanently?
00:02:25.060 Or will there be a new day, a new day of accountability that follows the Trump administration?
00:02:31.900 And by showing up in mass repeatedly, month after month, week after week, day after day in many cases, what we are doing is sending a very strong signal to those businesses, those universities, those law firms that, oh, I can't actually just cover myself today or next week because this guy is going to be out soon.
00:02:51.660 He's an unpopular, lame duck president, and there is going to be a future post-Trump era, and I'm still going to be a law firm.
00:02:59.180 I'm still going to be a business.
00:03:00.520 I'm still going to be a university, and I'm going to have to contend with my actions today.
00:03:04.940 So the smart move stops being, I'm going to cover myself today, and it becomes, I've got to think about what comes next.
00:03:11.920 We are seeing tonight a surge in the price of gold, now trading above $3,300 an ounce.
00:03:18.500 Gold is seen as the safest when everything else is risky.
00:03:21.340 What does it tell you?
00:03:23.300 It tells me gold is shiny and people get attracted to it at odd reasons, and honestly, Steph, I've never understood gold prices.
00:03:29.980 Well, there you go.
00:03:33.560 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:03:38.480 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:03:43.720 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:48.020 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:03:49.520 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:51.440 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:03:54.060 It's going to happen.
00:03:55.340 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:03:58.720 Mega media.
00:04:00.120 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:04:05.480 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:04:09.280 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:15.440 It's a Tuesday, 6th May, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:04:26.580 Dave Bratt riding shotgun with me this morning.
00:04:29.220 The Canadian prime minister will show up.
00:04:31.080 Very important meeting about trade tariffs.
00:04:33.920 All of it on a guy who's not a great guy.
00:04:36.800 One of those slippery Goldman Sachs guys, right?
00:04:38.740 Dave Bratt.
00:04:39.160 He's coming in today.
00:04:39.980 He's supposed to arrive, I think, at 11 is what Brian Glenn is telling us.
00:04:45.800 And right now they're going to spend about 45 minutes in a private bilat.
00:04:51.620 Remember, we taught you this bilateral meeting.
00:04:54.180 They will open it up, I believe, at 1145.
00:04:56.860 My bet is going to be a lot less than that.
00:04:58.700 I'm not so sure President Trump can take too much of this guy behind closed doors.
00:05:03.240 I think we're planning on 1130.
00:05:05.120 Also, Senator Josh Hawley is going to join us here momentarily.
00:05:09.660 Dave Bratt, right there, that's the Australian economist that's on Stephanie Ruhl all the time.
00:05:14.900 I think he's from the University of Michigan or Michigan State.
00:05:18.420 Can't figure out the price of gold.
00:05:19.980 Hey, all you have to do is go to birchgold.com.
00:05:22.220 It's not about the price.
00:05:23.420 It's about the process.
00:05:25.000 Why has gold been a hedge for 10,000 years of mankind's history?
00:05:28.040 Gold's on a roll this morning over 3,400.
00:05:30.500 But, hey, it's going to go up and down.
00:05:32.380 The point is it's a store of value and a hedge against time zones.
00:05:36.340 Certainly now, given the fact that over the last 25 years it's outperformed the S&P 500, why is that?
00:05:43.620 Why is that, you ask?
00:05:44.840 Steve, it's not supposed to be moved like stocks.
00:05:47.260 It's supposed to be just a store of value long term and a hedge.
00:05:50.080 So why has it outperformed the S&P 500?
00:05:53.040 Do you listen to Brother Dave Bratt?
00:05:54.820 No increase in productivity in 25 years.
00:05:58.020 That's the price.
00:05:59.880 What does it say, Cortez says?
00:06:00.960 Price is truth.
00:06:01.740 That's the price is truth right there, right?
00:06:04.080 Yeah.
00:06:04.540 Yeah, no, that's right.
00:06:06.280 I just wanted to bring to attention folks that you might have missed this week, but I've been talking about the real economy and capital is the key, right?
00:06:16.160 If you want economic growth, you have to have productivity.
00:06:18.700 That's down for 70 years in a row.
00:06:20.740 But if you want to increase productivity, the key is capital.
00:06:25.760 Human capital is not a sexy story at all either.
00:06:28.940 That's a disaster.
00:06:29.900 K-12, the kids in this country have been left behind.
00:06:32.580 The liberals used to like them, like the kids.
00:06:34.660 The left has no need for the little kids.
00:06:37.140 But capital, Trump's brought in, you know, two.
00:06:39.840 Well, they have a big need for the little kids, but it's not a need that society – yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:43.360 It's a sick need.
00:06:44.080 It's a perverted need.
00:06:44.800 Yeah.
00:06:45.180 What they're doing to pervert the K-12.
00:06:47.420 This is one of the reasons Trump won.
00:06:48.680 Those mothers who were not MAGA saw what was going on in the schools and the freak show they've turned the schools into and the librarians.
00:06:55.300 The librarians – I remember when I was a kid, the librarian was, you know, some – looked like a grandma who was very squared away, knew where all the books were, and now it's a freak show.
00:07:04.780 They're all Marxist.
00:07:05.720 Yeah.
00:07:05.940 Well, and so good news, Trump's bringing back $2 trillion in capital, according to the White House, $7 trillion promises.
00:07:14.540 Hang on for a second.
00:07:14.800 Hang on for a second.
00:07:15.660 $2 trillion – let's bifurcate this.
00:07:17.260 Yeah.
00:07:17.800 $2 trillion is what the gross amount of investment they're talking about over multiple years from corporations.
00:07:24.860 These are firms, right?
00:07:25.480 These are people that are targeting – have talked about plants, equipment, whether it's biopharmaceutical companies or car makers or things.
00:07:32.820 That is coming from corporate entities, both private and publicly traded.
00:07:36.720 Yep.
00:07:36.880 The additional $5 trillion is coming from Massasan at SoftBank, the sovereign wealth funds.
00:07:43.920 You know, the Arabs come – the Saudis come over here.
00:07:45.620 They're going to invest a trillion dollars.
00:07:47.020 Yep.
00:07:47.180 That may or may not happen.
00:07:48.440 I'm also, to be blunt, I'm not in love with foreign capital from sovereign wealth funds coming to the United States.
00:07:54.760 I think we got – you look at the pension funds.
00:07:57.640 Our pension funds shouldn't be in China, and the Saudis shouldn't be here.
00:08:01.420 But if your company – I'm not totally crazy about that, but that's better.
00:08:06.260 But that investment you're saying is going to drive productivity, growth, et cetera.
00:08:10.820 Yeah, and give the shots.
00:08:12.120 Yes, and Trump's fundamental transformation here is we have massive trade deficits, right?
00:08:19.380 So we have a current account that's out of whack with every country, $25 trillion on the earth, right?
00:08:26.640 So as we turn that around –
00:08:28.000 Stop, full stop, economists.
00:08:30.440 So when we say – there's three things you've got to look at.
00:08:33.080 An annual deficit of $2 trillion that mounts – that adds up, continuing to the $37 trillion right now we have a debt.
00:08:39.520 Right.
00:08:40.060 Okay, that's one.
00:08:41.380 Number two is the $25 trillion accumulative trade deficit.
00:08:45.620 Trade deficit, yep.
00:08:46.520 Number 18 trillion of that directly tied to China.
00:08:49.680 Yep.
00:08:50.580 Number three is the $25 trillion of intellectual property they've stolen or forced us to give to them in joint ventures, which is $600 billion a year, and that's outside sources saying that.
00:09:02.680 Mr. Economist, let's go back to the second.
00:09:04.940 Every time I – with my Wall Street buddies, I bring up the $25 trillion, they go, it's just a bookkeeping thing.
00:09:10.240 It means nothing.
00:09:11.560 It's that, oh, we're buying great stuff with our money, and they're taking it.
00:09:14.340 Are you insane?
00:09:16.460 Yeah.
00:09:16.740 This is our monetizing our assets to pay for foreign goods that they're getting the value added on the production side and the wage side.
00:09:27.460 Yeah.
00:09:27.580 Who is right?
00:09:28.140 My Wall Street – Gary Cohen in that crowd that says it's just a bookkeeping or the populist nationals?
00:09:34.020 No, this is the whole populist energy, right?
00:09:37.220 We're buying goods over the last 30 years from China.
00:09:40.660 They get our capital.
00:09:41.580 They're investing – and this is the part you don't like – they're investing in our land, in our firms, in Pebble Beach and all this, right?
00:09:49.280 Shouldn't have any of it.
00:09:50.180 National security concerns, all that kind of thing.
00:09:52.920 And so we'll see this new burst of capital is coming in likely from friends of President Trump or from countries who have learned about our leverage.
00:10:05.260 And there's a new leverage at play where Trump is saying you can either play nice right now or you're going to learn the hard way.
00:10:11.020 You're saying this is the tariffs.
00:10:12.040 You're going to pay a premium.
00:10:13.040 So you can either move your production over here and avoid the tariffs or you're going to pay a premium.
00:10:17.140 By the way, the countries – I don't have a problem with any of the one countries that are – I have a huge problem with the CCP buying foreign land.
00:10:23.300 I don't have a problem with any of the countries that are going to be trading partners.
00:10:26.100 I just don't like the fact we have foreign capital from sovereign wealth funds coming into the nation because I think we have enough capital, the pension funds.
00:10:34.920 One of the problems is we're putting it all over the world.
00:10:37.600 Time to focus that capital back here in the United States.
00:10:41.420 Okay, huge developments.
00:10:42.460 By the way, birchgold.com.
00:10:44.240 We started the road to Rio last night.
00:10:47.320 That interview was pretty good.
00:10:48.480 But Salahi Motion, the author of Paper Soldiers, How We Weaponize the Dollar, and she's saying, hey, there's downside.
00:10:55.320 Remember, we love economic warfare because it keeps us away from kinetic war.
00:11:00.600 There is a downside to that, right?
00:11:02.260 People start to want to get off the dollar because they know you can weaponize it against them.
00:11:05.940 She was a lot less concerned about the BRICS right now because she says, hey, the dollars got them.
00:11:12.980 But she was a little wobbly when I said, hey, how much the Japanese just told us, put a shot across our bow by saying, hey, I understand Navarro's reciprocity and I know not Terry Bear's and there are no Buicks being sold in Japan.
00:11:29.300 There's no Chevys.
00:11:30.620 And the Japanese saying, I got it.
00:11:32.140 I understand that, guys.
00:11:33.320 And they didn't say it was wrong.
00:11:34.880 We'll sit down.
00:11:35.560 But, oh, by the way, we own a trillion dollars of this crap.
00:11:38.700 Okay.
00:11:39.040 And you're looking, the last time we looked, you're going to have to sell us a trillion more.
00:11:42.540 So that's going to be part of the discussion.
00:11:44.000 One of the reasons is that in this deficit calculation, I think what Besson and Navarro and others are doing is saying, look, if you can't close it by, if you can't close it on actual a deal itself, there may be another way to do it.
00:11:58.340 And maybe you take, maybe to close it, you buy a couple of hundred year bonds at 2%.
00:12:04.500 Now, that has been something that has been quite difficult to sell in the past, given the volatility of things.
00:12:11.180 Guys don't want to be, when it goes super long at 2%.
00:12:15.320 But this is a discussion people are having.
00:12:17.640 How do you think it's going so far?
00:12:19.580 By the way, birchgold.com, slash bandit, end of the dollar empire.
00:12:22.600 The Rio reset.
00:12:23.600 Get it today.
00:12:24.360 Every day we're going to be talking about this in the run-up to Rio, which Dave Bradd is going to be announcing now.
00:12:32.700 Posobiec is in the Vatican.
00:12:34.160 He's going to be here at 11.
00:12:35.020 He's heading to Rome to work with Harnwell.
00:12:37.720 Posobiec is also going to go, I think, to Romania and Poland to cover those.
00:12:41.620 I'm announcing now that Dave Bradd is going to be our guide down at Rio for the, unfortunately, we got Bradd in there.
00:12:47.800 They know that he's pro-Bolsonaro.
00:12:49.600 They might lock him up, take his passport.
00:12:52.360 Plus, I don't know if his wife's going to sign off on the Rio trip with the gold guys.
00:12:56.840 You're going with Philip Patrick, and the gold team is going to Rio.
00:12:59.360 So that won't be, it's like a crypto party.
00:13:01.880 It's like the crypto bros.
00:13:03.380 It's good Posobiec is going to the Vatican because he's so nuanced, you know.
00:13:07.200 Very nuanced.
00:13:08.700 This is the MAGA right.
00:13:10.580 The MAGA right.
00:13:11.980 He's also taking his hammerhead brother, which is going to be great.
00:13:14.720 I think his brother's already the advanced team right there.
00:13:17.200 Yeah.
00:13:18.040 Before we go to break, so yesterday on the Bloomberg interview.
00:13:21.700 Yeah.
00:13:21.920 Because she's one of the top experts in this.
00:13:23.820 Yeah, she's very smart.
00:13:24.400 So I noticed, though, she didn't want to get near Harry Dexter White.
00:13:29.120 Yeah.
00:13:29.480 I mean, you have to ask yourself the question.
00:13:32.100 So, folks, Harry Dexter White with Morgenthau came up with the post-war kind of economic system.
00:13:38.000 Yeah.
00:13:38.200 Harry Dexter White was, I think you can kind of say almost a genius, I think, about capital markets the way he thought.
00:13:44.120 But, unfortunately, he had later, it was exposed that he was, I think, an active KGB agent.
00:13:50.240 I mean, he had a direct, it was like the guy from, it's like I.F. Stone from The Nation.
00:13:55.580 These guys were either on the KGB payroll or they were close enough that they were working.
00:14:01.260 It turns out he was very involved in that.
00:14:04.480 But he's the guy that really was the, he and Morgenthau were the masterminds in back of Bretton Woods, which is the system we live with today.
00:14:11.460 Yeah, well, and it spins out of control.
00:14:14.840 And there's a confluence of smart people all kind of reaching the same dates, right?
00:14:19.320 71 in the Federal Reserve and then 70s, 80s, 90s.
00:14:23.300 71 where we went off the gold standard.
00:14:25.120 Off the gold standard.
00:14:26.120 And then the move toward being friendly with China and opening up.
00:14:29.360 And then the last 30 years of totally losing track of our intelligence services with respect to China.
00:14:35.560 And so that's the conversation.
00:14:37.420 We're going to take a short break.
00:14:38.280 Here's a question you have to answer.
00:14:39.580 Was it, what was more, was it more hurtful to the United States, Nixon, damaging the United States, Nixon going off the gold standard than it was Nixon pulling China out of the Soviets' orbit in 1973?
00:14:52.680 Dave Brat, the Dave Brat will answer that on the return.
00:14:57.300 Short break.
00:14:57.660 This July, there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro, the bloc of emerging superpowers, including China, Russia, India, and Persia, are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency.
00:15:15.160 They're calling this the Rio reset as BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for U.S. dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings.
00:15:26.760 While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio.
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00:16:27.600 It's left a cut from the IRS.
00:16:29.560 What would you talk about with your vision for the IRS and why streamlining operations will benefit taxpayers and not hurt them?
00:16:36.820 Well, Mr. Chairman, the IRS is 30 years behind, 30 years behind on an IT modernization project where perhaps up to $50 billion of taxpayer money has been wasted.
00:16:51.820 We are right-sizing that.
00:16:54.820 So, the substantial decrease in the IRS budget is largely in IT.
00:17:01.920 We have had a large number of employees take the option for early retirement or for retirement.
00:17:12.100 And, again, let's look at the numbers.
00:17:16.840 We are just taking the IRS back to where it was before the IRA bill substantially bloated the personnel and the infrastructure.
00:17:26.460 Thank you.
00:17:28.840 And now I recognize Ranking Member Hoyer for any questions he may have.
00:17:34.460 Mr. Chairman, let me ask you a broader question, Mr. Secretary, at the outset.
00:17:40.040 That the President has been talking about recession and the acceptance of a recession in the short term.
00:17:49.280 Do you believe we're in a recession now?
00:17:54.100 Congressman, I believe in data.
00:17:56.540 And there is nothing in the data that shows that we are in a recession.
00:18:00.140 As a matter of fact, the jobs report has surprised to the upside.
00:18:03.900 The job report, of course, less than the average for the Biden administration last in 2024.
00:18:17.100 But the GDP went down this first quarter of the Trump administration.
00:18:25.180 If we have a negative growth in the second quarter, which is, I suppose, the traditional definition of a recession,
00:18:34.400 would you agree that we are in that recession of which the President speaks?
00:18:41.360 Congressman, these economic numbers are noisy and subject to substantial revision.
00:18:47.820 So, I, having looked at a detailed analysis, would believe that the first quarter GDP would be revised upward.
00:18:57.060 And, you know, I would also, with regards to your remark about where we were last year,
00:19:02.460 last year we were spending 6.7 percent, we had a 6.7 percent fiscal deficit,
00:19:10.920 the largest we've ever had during peacetime or non-recessionary times.
00:19:15.200 So, the easy thing to do would be to keep spending,
00:19:19.940 to keep the economy running on an unsustainable path of government spending.
00:19:26.540 Let me remark, because you mentioned this, I think, in our meeting,
00:19:32.720 we had a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
00:19:39.120 I want to talk about the revenue problem.
00:19:40.540 Let me suggest to you, my view is, it's neither a revenue nor a spending problem.
00:19:45.980 It's a pay-for problem.
00:19:47.500 If we would pay for what we buy, whether it's defense or non-defense,
00:19:51.540 we wouldn't increase the deficit.
00:19:53.880 So, I think, looking at, I'm a big proponent of paying as you go.
00:19:58.900 Unfortunately, we haven't pursued that on either side of the aisle,
00:20:02.060 maybe for different objectives.
00:20:03.300 I'm going to go to IRS.
00:20:07.300 I want to, you probably know these figures,
00:20:11.020 and these are somewhat old at this point in time.
00:20:15.140 But what they reflect, as you will see,
00:20:17.160 is a substantial decrease in the resources of the IRS,
00:20:22.880 particularly in enforcement.
00:20:25.540 As the blue representing an increase.
00:20:28.840 The Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besson,
00:20:30.340 is a question about trade tariffs, all of it, and also IRS.
00:20:33.060 But breaking news, and Manu Raju over at CNN has put this up.
00:20:37.920 We knew this last night at midnight, but now it's official.
00:20:40.540 Tom Tillis of North Carolina tells us he's informed the White House
00:20:44.280 he will not support Ed Martin to be the next U.S. attorney
00:20:47.440 for the District of Columbia.
00:20:49.160 Cites January 6th.
00:20:51.640 He cites January 6th as his reason that would derail the nomination.
00:20:55.900 It said it could derail the nomination.
00:20:57.300 It is because they didn't put forward the name last night, the committee.
00:21:00.820 This is another outrage.
00:21:02.720 President Trump...
00:21:05.240 Okay, folks, this is the problem.
00:21:07.820 Here's the problem.
00:21:08.720 And this is why MTG was on here yesterday.
00:21:11.180 Up there in the House and Senate,
00:21:13.760 you've got a handful of guys that are MAGA, men and women.
00:21:17.220 And I say a handful of the, what, the 535 total, Dave Brett,
00:21:22.740 do some math here, we're essentially half of it.
00:21:25.240 Of the half of it, there's a handful, there's a, there's, yes,
00:21:29.140 there's 20, at most, maybe 30 total that support him.
00:21:34.500 The rest are all just standard stock Republicans drafting off him,
00:21:38.360 and they're going to flip as soon as Trump's gone.
00:21:40.180 In fact, right now, in the list of priorities,
00:21:44.200 this is what I had Fitton on yesterday.
00:21:45.780 We kind of worked that through in that Fitton's sitting there saying,
00:21:48.940 hey, the Justice Department is overwhelmed, the FBI is overwhelmed,
00:21:52.880 you need to have an outside prosecutor.
00:21:54.640 That is with, you need a special prosecutor with Ed Martin as D.C.
00:21:59.220 Now, the U.S. attorneys, two most powerful U.S. attorneys in the nation,
00:22:02.360 Southern District of New York,
00:22:03.760 because it's the financial and commercial capital of the world,
00:22:06.520 and then Washington, D.C., because the head of government
00:22:08.900 and everything in the district.
00:22:10.560 Every crime here is a federal crime.
00:22:12.560 And so he keeps the city safe.
00:22:14.120 But more importantly, everything that goes through here,
00:22:16.440 this is why Jack Smith was out of here.
00:22:18.900 This is why Matthew Graves had such a big input to Trump.
00:22:22.820 This is when the 2020 election, when it's stolen, right?
00:22:26.980 You're writing this down with your number two pencil.
00:22:29.020 They're coming back on Trump and his people in the MAGA movement
00:22:31.740 10 times harder because we haven't rooted out the deep state and destroyed it.
00:22:35.860 The way you root out the deep state,
00:22:37.680 if justice and FBI is too booked up with stuff,
00:22:41.200 and, hey, they have a beachhead in these buildings,
00:22:45.460 but just a beachhead with the landing team.
00:22:48.180 You've got to have the district.
00:22:50.260 And Tillis, who owes his career to Donald Trump,
00:22:53.520 is sitting there telling him, oh, because of January 6th.
00:22:55.720 Hey, screw you, dude.
00:22:56.740 What do you mean January 6th?
00:22:58.320 It's a frickin' Fed rex.
00:22:59.620 And this also gets to my point,
00:23:01.740 why are we delaying the investigations formally
00:23:04.720 so then a Tom Tillis can't sit there
00:23:06.680 and go something about January 6th?
00:23:08.520 Yeah, and Fitton, one of the most powerful lines he gave yesterday
00:23:12.060 in his interview here,
00:23:14.200 he went over the cast of characters on the left,
00:23:17.820 the brawlers and fighters that that committee put through
00:23:21.100 under Obama, Clinton, et cetera, going all the way up.
00:23:24.120 And so our side now has to put in some phone calls
00:23:29.320 with that list of characters, Merrick, Garland, all the way through,
00:23:35.280 that this committee put through who did not serve our country well.
00:23:39.580 And then they want to hang out at the cocktail circuit
00:23:42.900 with the popular kids up here in D.C.
00:23:44.840 and the American people are very clear on what Ed Martin's doing.
00:23:50.220 And he's been fighting to fight, I think, the crimes down 25% in the city.
00:23:56.600 That's his job.
00:23:58.080 And so on every objective metric, he's doing it.
00:24:00.460 But that's a secondary job.
00:24:01.380 Yeah, no, it's fine.
00:24:02.460 I'm glad.
00:24:02.960 I'm glad.
00:24:03.400 By the way, if you put a couple of cops out here,
00:24:04.900 it's going to go down, Tim, because the place was lawless.
00:24:07.000 Yeah.
00:24:07.280 Under this group of clowns you got in D.C.?
00:24:09.460 Come on.
00:24:10.540 It's a joke.
00:24:11.320 He put a couple of cops out there.
00:24:12.600 Of course it's going to go down.
00:24:13.420 He's done an amazing job because he has focused on it.
00:24:16.220 I don't want to take that away,
00:24:17.440 but that's not the primary purpose is to go after this corrupt apparatus
00:24:21.320 that's the imperial capital.
00:24:22.900 And for Tom Tillis and, hey, Cornyn, the whole crowd, none of them pushed it.
00:24:26.440 This thing was late last night.
00:24:27.680 It was only at midnight.
00:24:29.320 Well, you had to do it at midnight to give the three days to do the markup on Thursday
00:24:33.100 because then they know Shifty Shift's going to call for a one-week thing
00:24:37.660 that you can call because of the Senate.
00:24:39.520 That would take it to the following Thursday.
00:24:41.100 Then you would have a day or two, I think, to get it through before the 20th.
00:24:46.300 Now, here's what's going to happen.
00:24:47.560 Boesburg's going to appoint somebody.
00:24:50.880 Trump's going to say no, and they're going to put Ed Martin back in there.
00:24:54.140 Yeah.
00:24:55.100 But it's a deeper issue.
00:24:57.240 No, and his big crime was he called out Schumer for Schumer's remarks on threatening the Supreme Court
00:25:02.940 and, you know, paybacks or whatever he said.
00:25:06.180 And for that, he's not forgiven.
00:25:09.400 But their side always scores.
00:25:11.440 Our side gets punished by our own Cub Scout guys, and we don't get justice as a result in this country.
00:25:17.320 This is a huge deal because there's so many things that President Trump's working on,
00:25:24.580 the people of the White House are working on, right?
00:25:26.620 One is the deconstruction of the administrative state that comes both budgetarily.
00:25:30.620 It also comes from Doge, although I haven't seen a number on waste, fraud, and abuse, a tangible number.
00:25:35.880 However, programmatically, they did go in on things that we couldn't get to for years
00:25:41.120 because, as you know, being a conservative and a budget cutter, you would make the argument
00:25:46.980 you couldn't get out of committee.
00:25:48.260 No, no.
00:25:48.900 Tell people that.
00:25:50.220 This whole thing about they're for limited government, the Republican Party, it's a lie.
00:25:55.020 They never voted for limited government.
00:25:56.280 I was talking about PBS and NPR 20 years after all the stuff they did with Bush in the early 2000s.
00:26:04.300 No, I'm serious.
00:26:05.160 I've said this multiple times, but I was on the budget committee.
00:26:08.520 Paul Ryan and the guys, the speaker, would come in.
00:26:10.700 The speaker sets every number in the budget, right?
00:26:13.320 So he would come in the budget committee and say, here's the number at the end of six months.
00:26:16.500 You guys have fun chatting for six months, but here's the number you're going to hit.
00:26:20.320 It's all predetermined by what I call the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky, and that's the donor money.
00:26:25.920 If you take away a billion dollars from somebody, you're taking it away from a commitment, right?
00:26:32.540 Somebody that's got a little sentence in the budget line, and there goes their cash, and there goes our donations, and we're addicted to the cash.
00:26:40.520 And everybody understands that.
00:26:42.040 The MAGA, the posse understands that.
00:26:44.320 To get to the most important committees the day you show up, they give you a target number.
00:26:48.200 Like if you want to get in Appropriations Armed Services, you've got to raise $200,000 or so for the good of the team, not for you, by doing fundraisers every night, right?
00:26:57.660 Oh, constant.
00:26:58.200 I was never even invited to the conversation because I beat Cantor.
00:27:01.260 So I was kicked out of the members' dining room and no soup, white bean soup or nothing.
00:27:07.400 Hang on.
00:27:08.520 Because you had the biggest upset in American political history.
00:27:11.560 Yeah, no committees.
00:27:12.100 I was on all C committees.
00:27:14.460 To get to the B committees, you can raise some money.
00:27:16.680 You were like Marjorie Taylor.
00:27:18.280 Oh, yeah.
00:27:18.620 So they just shunned you, right?
00:27:20.080 They were going to say—
00:27:20.780 Oh, from the start.
00:27:21.440 Yeah, from the start.
00:27:22.300 So my only option was to go on the cameras, and then I get beat by the CIA, which I find out is a cutout.
00:27:28.420 And, you know, I mean, it's just—
00:27:29.720 The future governor of Virginia.
00:27:31.020 Yeah, this city is on that.
00:27:32.860 They were rolling a CIA op on BRAC because they realized you were getting some traction.
00:27:39.920 Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:27:41.260 Senator Hawley's going to join us on the other side.
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00:30:09.500 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:11.920 Okay, Tuesday, 6 May, U.S. World 20.5.
00:30:16.240 German, by the way, had a complete fiasco in the German parliament earlier this morning.
00:30:20.520 They couldn't even get the compromise candidate, conservative candidate across.
00:30:25.500 They were going to have the vote on Friday, so we were going to have AFD on here.
00:30:29.120 But it looks like they just re-voted in panic.
00:30:30.980 They re-voted and passed it, and we'll have more about that later.
00:30:33.660 Senator Josh Hawley joins us.
00:30:36.160 So, Senator Hawley, we were up working late last night expecting on the Judiciary Committee, I guess, to set a date on Thursday.
00:30:42.100 For Ed Martin, but it looks like Senator Tillis at least come forward and said he can't do it.
00:30:48.460 He can't get there because of January 6th.
00:30:50.080 Can you just give folks an overview of what's happening over there, sir?
00:30:55.500 Yeah, sure.
00:30:56.400 It's great to be with you, by the way.
00:30:57.580 Thanks always for having me.
00:30:58.860 I think the situation is this.
00:31:00.280 You've got a number of Republicans who don't want to vote on Ed Martin, and this is the president's nominee, obviously, to be the U.S. attorney in the District of Columbia.
00:31:07.480 I just want to say I've known Ed for years.
00:31:09.040 He's a Missouri guy, so I've known him and his family for years and years and years.
00:31:13.600 I obviously support him.
00:31:14.840 I look forward to voting on him, and I hope we can get to a vote, Steve.
00:31:17.940 I mean, my view is that if we vote on him, he will pass.
00:31:21.160 He will pass in the committee.
00:31:22.300 I believe he will pass on the floor of the Senate, and you know as well as I do, getting a strong U.S. attorney in the District is vital.
00:31:30.660 The district is a cesspool.
00:31:32.540 It is a crime wave every single day.
00:31:35.780 Ed knows how to clean that up, and really, you know, I think we're seeing more opposition to the president's pick.
00:31:41.140 I mean, this is no senator nominated Ed Martin.
00:31:43.640 This is the president's pick, and that's my message to my colleagues.
00:31:47.320 Let's vote on him.
00:31:48.100 Let's pass him.
00:31:48.740 You know, Ed was the wingman for Phyllis Schlafly, one of the true greats in our country in the conservative movement, and as an American.
00:31:56.600 I mean, what she did is monumental.
00:31:58.000 Ed was there, worked with him for years.
00:32:00.740 Senator Hawley, I think this is what has our audience confused because we had guys from Heritage on yesterday.
00:32:07.020 All day we were on this Ed Martin thing.
00:32:09.420 The president, this is not – there's so much going on.
00:32:11.920 We understand that.
00:32:12.600 But the president comes out yesterday and put a true social – he worked the phones.
00:32:16.360 He talked to Tillis for hours.
00:32:18.400 This is something that is vital – like the two U.S. attorneys that matter right now are Southern District of New York and D.C.
00:32:25.260 Given that the president's all in on this, the White House is all in on this, people that are big supporters of the president like Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri are all in on this.
00:32:35.280 How can we have – I mean just even showing the Democrats of the nation that we're united, how can that happen?
00:32:41.620 Well, this is why I think we are going to get to a vote and he is going to pass.
00:32:46.100 I just don't see how he doesn't, to be honest with you, Steve.
00:32:48.360 Because the president – and you mentioned this last night – the president made it crystal clear publicly that Ed Martin is top, top priority for him.
00:32:56.960 Because the District of Columbia being safe is top, top priority.
00:33:01.320 I mean right now you can't – you know this as well as I do.
00:33:03.240 You cannot go out on the streets in the district and not fear for your life.
00:33:06.680 I've got staffers in my office literally who've been shot.
00:33:09.200 I've got constituents when they visit D.C.
00:33:12.240 They say, is it safe for us?
00:33:13.560 And I have to tell them, honestly, I don't know that it really is.
00:33:16.700 This is our nation's capital.
00:33:17.940 It ought to be the cleanest.
00:33:18.960 It ought to be the safest.
00:33:20.320 It ought to be the best place to visit in our country because it represents what our country is about.
00:33:24.720 And our own citizens can't come here without fear of their lives.
00:33:28.300 It's ridiculous.
00:33:29.200 We need a U.S. attorney who's going to go after the crime and clean up the city, especially in front of our 250 celebration next year.
00:33:37.240 Ed is the right guy to do that.
00:33:38.540 He's the president's choice.
00:33:39.820 And I would just say to my fellow Republicans on the committee, and listen, I'm not saying anything to you.
00:33:43.300 I haven't said to them privately.
00:33:45.380 Personally, give this guy a shot.
00:33:47.580 Meet with him.
00:33:48.340 Talk to him about what he's going to do in the office.
00:33:50.600 Talk to the president.
00:33:51.540 I think when that happens, he is going to pass the committee.
00:33:54.340 I just don't see how he does it.
00:33:56.900 Senator, let's go to other issues because it seems like you understand the president's agenda,
00:34:02.140 the focus on working class and middle class folks and to make sure that we try to have an economic path where they can, you know, have a shot and have a level playing field.
00:34:12.480 I notice I want to talk about this new bill.
00:34:15.000 You're working on a bunch of stuff up there that hits to the heart of what populism, what economic nationalism is.
00:34:21.340 It's what the president talks about all the time.
00:34:23.340 But I notice a lot of times you're having to partner with Democrats.
00:34:26.200 Tell us about this, about going after big pharma in this new bill.
00:34:29.340 But I see this over and over and over again.
00:34:32.000 And the question our audience has is what's the problem with the other Republicans that the president has put his shoulder to the wheel to get them in?
00:34:39.260 Senator Hawley.
00:34:40.440 You know, we need more Republican populace in the United States Senate.
00:34:43.800 We need more Republican populace in Congress.
00:34:45.800 We need them to support things like my new prescription drug bill.
00:34:48.960 Here's what it does, Steve.
00:34:49.820 It caps the price of prescription drugs in the United States of America, period.
00:34:53.960 Here's how it caps it.
00:34:54.800 It says that what these big pharma companies charge overseas in Europe and in Canada, whatever that price is, that's what they ought to be charging Americans.
00:35:03.320 Right now in my home state of Missouri, we are getting charged two and three and sometimes four times as much for the same drugs that big pharma is selling in France and Italy and Canada and wherever else.
00:35:16.080 It is ridiculous.
00:35:17.660 We are paying in the United States of America.
00:35:19.760 We are paying for everybody else's drugs worldwide.
00:35:22.460 Big pharma knows it.
00:35:23.380 They are lining their pockets with our taxpayers' dollars.
00:35:27.120 It is outrageous.
00:35:28.280 So what we ought to do is what the president proposed.
00:35:30.400 By the way, Steve, this is the president's idea.
00:35:32.360 He proposed this in his first term.
00:35:34.140 We ought to write it into law.
00:35:35.880 No more ripoffs from big pharma.
00:35:38.080 But to your point, my co-sponsor is a Democrat, Peter Welch.
00:35:41.200 Great guy.
00:35:41.700 I'm delighted to partner with him on this.
00:35:43.740 Man, I'd love to have some Republicans.
00:35:45.620 You know, I mean, where are the Republicans?
00:35:47.340 We need them to stand up for the president's working class agenda.
00:35:50.180 Is it because there's too much big pharma lobby money?
00:35:54.680 I mean, what's the reason?
00:35:55.660 Because it's the president's idea.
00:35:57.980 You put it into a bill.
00:35:59.440 It makes total sense.
00:36:00.740 People support it.
00:36:01.600 They love it.
00:36:02.400 But you can't get co-sponsorship from Republicans.
00:36:05.420 Why is that?
00:36:05.980 I think two things.
00:36:07.480 Number one is the money.
00:36:08.640 Yeah, big pharma has enormous amounts of money.
00:36:10.780 And let's just be honest.
00:36:12.040 Big pharma has bankrolled so many of these political action committees.
00:36:16.940 They're dark money.
00:36:18.000 You talk about the dark money kings.
00:36:19.840 Big pharma on the Republican side is probably the king of dark money.
00:36:23.200 And they have poured it into the coffers of Republicans, including Republican leaders.
00:36:28.180 So that's a huge, huge problem.
00:36:29.620 And some of it, Steve, is ideological.
00:36:30.840 I mean, it's sad to say, but much of the party among elected leaders in Congress is still trapped in the past.
00:36:37.060 They're still trapped in this idea that whatever big business wants, big business should get.
00:36:41.800 And somehow that's what we're about as Republicans.
00:36:43.740 That's not what we're about as Republicans.
00:36:45.500 We're about working people.
00:36:47.200 We're about working families.
00:36:48.720 We're about making this nation the greatest it can be and putting Americans first.
00:36:52.520 That doesn't mean multinational corporations first.
00:36:55.240 And we've got to make that switch.
00:36:56.360 It's got to be America first, not big business first.
00:36:58.740 If big business wants to do something good for America, terrific, we're for that.
00:37:02.880 But right now, pharma is gouging Americans.
00:37:06.000 They're putting America last.
00:37:07.280 They're putting their profits first.
00:37:09.080 We've got to do something about that.
00:37:11.120 You were the first, really, on the Republican side, one of the first, to warn us about big tech and the problems of big tech.
00:37:17.160 President Trump, I mean, the Democrats talk about the oligarchs.
00:37:20.980 President Trump, in this district, in Northern Virginia federal courts, it's amazing.
00:37:25.180 Going after Facebook, it hasn't won trial now, the FTC, the great Andrew Ferguson, the FTC.
00:37:30.400 The Justice Department has, you know, under Gail Slater, they've got them in Northern Virginia, I think, for the ad thing.
00:37:38.360 And then for search in D.C., they're trying to break up Google.
00:37:41.580 You've got to – they just came out and they're trying to find Apple.
00:37:44.720 They're actually – the Trump administration is going after the oligarchs like Teddy Roosevelt.
00:37:49.540 I mean, it's pretty amazing.
00:37:51.680 Why is there not more guys like you up in the Senate that are cheering this on and saying, hey, this is exactly what we're going to – ought to be doing?
00:37:59.380 Because all of these oligarchs, they may be with us right now for a minute, but they're all progressive Democrats, Senator Hawley.
00:38:05.700 A hundred percent.
00:38:06.480 Progressive Democrats, woke corporations.
00:38:08.520 You know, we heard all this talk about woke corporations a couple of years ago from Republicans.
00:38:12.040 You want to know how to deal with them?
00:38:13.440 This is how you deal with them.
00:38:15.080 What Trump is doing is how you deal with them.
00:38:17.080 What Teddy Roosevelt did is how you deal with them because we have a choice here.
00:38:20.760 It's pretty stark.
00:38:22.100 Either the woke corporations, the fat cast, the multinationals, either they'll run the country or the people will run the country.
00:38:28.620 It's binary.
00:38:29.540 It's one or the other.
00:38:30.180 You can't have both.
00:38:31.120 And what we know is the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world and the Googles of the world, those guys, they want to run the country.
00:38:37.320 They want to buy off the Congress.
00:38:38.940 They want to control the White House.
00:38:40.560 They want to write the laws.
00:38:41.800 They want to run it.
00:38:42.980 And either they'll do it or the people will do it.
00:38:45.020 Can't have it both ways.
00:38:45.880 And Trump is going after them.
00:38:47.100 The way you do it is you go break them up.
00:38:49.520 You go subject them to competition.
00:38:51.280 You give people the right to sue them when they come and censor you, when they take away, take away, take away, take away, take away, take away, take away the right track here.
00:38:58.700 And if Trump keeps this up, he is going to, you mentioned Roosevelt, he's going to have the opportunity, Trump is, to be remembered as one of the great antitrust presidents, probably the greatest Republican antitrust president since Theodore Roosevelt, who kicked the whole tradition off.
00:39:11.660 So this is a huge moment, Steve.
00:39:13.500 It's very important.
00:39:14.700 And Republicans in Congress need to come in now and say, all right, we're going to do our part.
00:39:20.100 We're going to give everyday Americans the right to sue these big tech corporations, which you don't have right now, by the way.
00:39:25.800 Can't do it.
00:39:26.660 We need to give them the right to sue to protect your free speech rights, to protect against censorship, to protect your personal property rights.
00:39:33.640 That's the next frontier.
00:39:34.440 Last thing about this, the big, beautiful bill and the spending and that cuts.
00:39:41.060 I mean, you were the first guy really to come out and say, hey, look, this thing looks like it's going to be a July, post-July.
00:39:47.500 Just what is, because we hear the House saying one thing, logically, what can people expect when we really get down to it and start fighting over the spending and start talking about the tax cuts?
00:39:58.320 When do you think that really starts to heat up?
00:40:00.800 Because this looks to me like it's going to go through the entire summer and we're not going to vote on this thing until the fall, sir.
00:40:06.780 Yeah, that's my concern, too, Steve.
00:40:08.960 I mean, I'm hoping for July at this point.
00:40:11.060 The process has been really slow.
00:40:12.560 If you want my personal opinion, too slow.
00:40:14.980 I mean, I think here we are in May.
00:40:17.700 What have the Houses gotten passed on this?
00:40:20.360 Nothing.
00:40:21.040 So we need to speed this process up.
00:40:23.720 And here are my priorities.
00:40:24.800 It's what the President said.
00:40:25.700 Number one, we need to give working people who elected this president and who gave us Republican majorities, we need to give working people a tax cut.
00:40:33.580 No taxes on tips.
00:40:34.600 No taxes on overtime.
00:40:36.040 We need to give every family in America working people with kids.
00:40:39.580 They need a tax cut for every kid they have.
00:40:42.340 Let's deliver the biggest working class tax cut in American history.
00:40:46.500 That'd be quite a legacy.
00:40:47.500 Number two, Medicaid.
00:40:48.820 We've got to protect Medicaid.
00:40:50.220 This idea that we're going to cut benefits from Medicaid like some Republicans want to do,
00:40:53.780 this is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long, long time.
00:40:57.380 Our voters, many of them, are working folks who can't otherwise afford health care because of what the Democrats did to health care in this country.
00:41:05.360 They depend on Medicaid, them and their kids.
00:41:08.520 The idea that we would take that away from our people is insane.
00:41:12.280 So we've got to protect Medicaid benefits for folks.
00:41:14.820 We've got to give them a tax cut.
00:41:16.220 We've got to cut back on the woke spending, the Green New Deal spending.
00:41:19.440 That's the ticket.
00:41:21.740 How did your constituents in Missouri, when they hear that, what do they think?
00:41:27.540 Well, when they hear the possibility of a tax cut with the president ran on, they say yes.
00:41:32.980 I mean, heck, Missouri voted for Donald Trump by 18 points.
00:41:35.420 When they hear some Republicans say, you know, now we'd like to cut Medicaid.
00:41:39.740 We'd like to come in here and take away your benefits.
00:41:42.100 They have a heart attack.
00:41:42.820 They say, wait a minute, wait a minute, many of them, they don't want to be on Medicaid, Steve.
00:41:47.560 They have to be because they can't afford health insurance otherwise.
00:41:51.340 I'm talking about working people here now, able-bodied working people in my state, Steve, 21% of Missourians, 21% are on Medicaid or CHIP.
00:42:00.920 That's the piece of it for kids.
00:42:03.360 And these are working folks that are like, hey, they don't have health care at their job.
00:42:06.920 They can't afford it.
00:42:08.300 They need Medicaid.
00:42:09.360 Their kids need it.
00:42:10.140 My view is you don't come in and throw those people out in the cold.
00:42:13.200 That's insane.
00:42:13.820 That's wrong.
00:42:14.840 We ought to be giving those people more of their hard-earned money back and helping them get on their feet, get a shot, not taking away what they paid for.
00:42:22.160 Senator Hawley, how do people follow you on social media?
00:42:24.420 Where do they go and particularly get your books and your writings?
00:42:27.800 You can go to Amazon, Barnes & Noble, anywhere that books are sold.
00:42:31.780 Your local bookstore for my books, Tyranny of Big Tech, Manhood.
00:42:35.200 On social media, I'm Hawley Moe, Hawley Moe, and you can follow me everywhere, Instagram, X, you name it.
00:42:42.520 And it's always great to be with you, Steve.
00:42:44.580 Thank you for having me.
00:42:46.480 Well, let's get to work and get some more populists.
00:42:48.940 That New York Times article was amazing about you, but it's a lonely fight up there as the only true populists in the United States Senate on the Republican side.
00:42:56.680 In fact, there's no populists on the Democratic side, so I guess you're the one true populist.
00:43:01.380 We've got to get some more guys in there, more men and women like you, sir.
00:43:04.660 That's the bottom line.
00:43:06.300 Not going to change until that happens.
00:43:08.340 We need some reinforcements.
00:43:09.420 There's no doubt about it.
00:43:11.280 Senator Hawley, thank you, and thank you for backing the president's agenda and being full MAGA.
00:43:14.920 Appreciate you, sir.
00:43:16.120 You bet.
00:43:16.540 Thank you.
00:43:20.000 Right there.
00:43:20.860 It's just laid out.
00:43:22.080 And the folks in Missouri, Trump won Missouri by 18 points.
00:43:24.580 He makes the point, nobody, no MAGA, nobody wants to be on Medicaid.
00:43:30.240 They don't want to do it.
00:43:31.400 The jobs aren't paying enough money because you've got competition of foreign labor here.
00:43:36.100 You've got 10 million illegal aliens in here driving down wages.
00:43:39.340 You've got these crap HB1 visas.
00:43:42.140 The assault on the American worker is relentless.
00:43:44.600 They don't want to be on there.
00:43:45.820 You go out to Montana and Wyoming, these places, Idaho, they're all Trump country.
00:43:52.100 It's higher than that.
00:43:53.160 It's not the old days.
00:43:53.960 It's the old days that, oh, the Medicaid, nobody wants to have Medicaid, but they're
00:43:59.200 forced to take it.
00:44:00.640 Hang on for a second.
00:44:01.780 Dave Brett's with me.
00:44:02.720 Just finished with Hawley.
00:44:03.640 We're back in a moment.
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00:45:30.560 Okay, there's a lot going on.
00:45:32.940 And by the way, Josh Hawley just made news somewhere.
00:45:34.620 A guy like Josh Hawley, who's very well-respected.
00:45:36.920 He's kind of one of these Cruz-like guys with the brain and the big law schools and the Ivy League.
00:45:41.800 He's very respected on judiciary.
00:45:44.200 When Josh Hawley just said, hey, he's going to get a vote in committee,
00:45:48.700 he's going to get out of committee, he's going to go to the floor,
00:45:50.920 and he's going to pass on the floor, that you should listen.
00:45:53.660 Because right now, it looks like an extremely heavy lift.
00:45:57.940 I got Jillian Barber here from Done With Debt,
00:46:00.300 which is critically important given what Hawley just said about Medicaid and other things.
00:46:03.800 I want to make sure we're going to need you at the ramparts.
00:46:06.580 The work you guys have done on Ed Martin just in the last couple of days has been amazing.
00:46:10.680 I mean, we're in this place right now where it's close or could happen because of you,
00:46:16.220 because it looked pretty grim.
00:46:17.620 This is why the president jumped in yesterday on True Social.
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00:46:56.060 Do that today.
00:46:57.140 We need you up at the ramparts.
00:46:59.220 Jillian, the one thing we don't need folks worrying about is debt and credit cards.
00:47:02.980 And the last thing we need them to do is put that letter from the credit card company in the drawer
00:47:07.120 because it's not going away there.
00:47:09.440 It's just metastasizing.
00:47:10.960 Help me out, ma'am.
00:47:12.380 Boy, oh, boy.
00:47:13.480 Today's subject's perfect timing.
00:47:15.640 Josh talking about Medicaid.
00:47:17.400 People are worried about that.
00:47:18.680 They're worried about their money.
00:47:19.840 When people come to me and ask, you know, what is it you do on Steve Bannon's show?
00:47:23.800 And I said, well, I talk about debt, and it all ties in.
00:47:28.260 It really is a state that we are in right now.
00:47:32.200 So many Americans need money, and they are in debt.
00:47:36.160 As Steve mentioned, things happen overnight.
00:47:38.120 For me, it was cancer.
00:47:39.260 For you, it might be something else.
00:47:40.740 So, you know, we want to have that little piece of, you know, mind over here.
00:47:45.900 But on the other hand, we've got to live our life and spend money.
00:47:49.100 So, done with debt, what do they do?
00:47:51.380 Well, they come in, and they will help you.
00:47:53.900 Like Steve said, don't shove it in a drawer.
00:47:55.680 They're going to take it out of the drawer.
00:47:57.180 Once they take it out of the drawer, they're going to get to work.
00:47:59.660 There are a team of people, all right?
00:48:01.600 They're going to combat all those letters and phone calls overnight.
00:48:05.700 Done.
00:48:06.040 You don't hear any.
00:48:07.100 You don't see any.
00:48:08.200 They're taking care of it.
00:48:09.420 It's your team.
00:48:10.100 Second, they are going to talk to all the institutions and see what's available out there
00:48:17.700 because there are deals to be done that we don't know about as the average American consumer.
00:48:23.800 All right?
00:48:24.060 And these aren't people just spending money out there willy-nilly.
00:48:27.300 These are people hardworking and spending money on their lives, on their children, on food, on education, on everything.
00:48:35.440 So what Done With Debt will do is just come in and be peace of mind and take care of you.
00:48:41.740 Not only can DoneWithDebt.com help you get on the right track, some people see you even end up with a bit of cash in their pocket.
00:48:51.520 And, you know, for me, it was just peace of mind.
00:48:54.040 There are so many people out there.
00:48:54.740 Hang on, hang on, Jillian.
00:48:55.380 I don't want people to understand this.
00:48:56.680 Yours happened because – give me a minute.
00:48:58.760 Yours happened because of medical bills.
00:49:00.680 How did that happen?
00:49:01.360 How did you end up going bankrupt because of being overwhelmed by medical bills?
00:49:06.860 Well, if you want to know the truth, I'm going to tell it.
00:49:10.240 They took out my cancer and they said, okay, well, we're going to surgically fix you.
00:49:16.900 And they did, ish.
00:49:19.180 I had very big problems after chemo.
00:49:22.720 It was a disaster.
00:49:24.840 I called it a war zone, you know, when I had breast cancer.
00:49:27.300 But I'll tell you what, they ended up charging – I am not kidding – $500,000, Steve?
00:49:37.460 Yeah.
00:49:38.400 And I didn't understand what the hell was happening.
00:49:42.220 That was just one part.
00:49:44.220 Then I had a business manager over here.
00:49:48.360 You know, I'm not a micromanager.
00:49:50.280 I'm not good with numbers like you, sir.
00:49:51.760 And so I'm working my tail off on a few TV jobs, actually five at one point, thinking, this is great.
00:49:58.360 I'm taking care of a husband who didn't work.
00:50:01.080 I'm taking care of two kids.
00:50:02.880 Okay, I'm good.
00:50:04.800 Well, I had this man for 20 years.
00:50:06.740 Calls me in one day and says, oh, yeah, we owe the IRS $750,000 and with penalty, Steve, 1.2.
00:50:15.240 Now, I'm a woman who doesn't want things hanging over my head.
00:50:18.560 I sold my house.
00:50:19.320 I got rid of everything.
00:50:20.540 And I paid them off.
00:50:22.100 1.2.
00:50:22.760 Okay.
00:50:23.620 Moving forward, you still have all this to deal with, right?
00:50:26.320 Medical you've got.
00:50:27.280 And I'll tell you what, my head was not only in a deep hole, it was in the ground spinning.
00:50:32.480 And so the medical stuff came up as a complete shock.
00:50:37.220 And people have things in their lives that come up that if you don't have that little spending tray over here that's, you know, tucked away for a bad day, it can be extremely exhausting.
00:50:48.700 And it was for me.
00:50:49.940 I went, oh, gosh, it was horrible.
00:50:52.720 But the Done With Debt guys helped you.
00:50:55.240 They basically helped save you.
00:50:57.940 Where do people go right now to talk to somebody?
00:51:00.640 Because, hey, people are in trouble.
00:51:03.320 Big trouble.
00:51:03.980 So where do they go?
00:51:04.600 Oh, sure.
00:51:06.260 Okay.
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00:51:28.060 And listen, Steve, it happens overnight.
00:51:30.140 So it's great.
00:51:30.660 The calls end and the letters stop.
00:51:32.980 It's almost like it's incredible.
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00:51:39.300 So it's donewithdebt.com.
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00:51:42.620 Go on the website and just look at all the people with their comments that have used donewithdebt.com.
00:51:48.620 And also just know that this is an institution that wants to really work for you, for the people.
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00:52:06.380 What do you have to lose, right?
00:52:08.080 Nothing to lose when you get the anxiety and the angst and all that.
00:52:11.460 Jillian, thank you.
00:52:12.440 Incredible story.
00:52:13.860 Great to see you, Steve.
00:52:15.020 Thank you.
00:52:15.420 The medical, you get overwhelmed.
00:52:18.080 You don't need to go bankrupt.
00:52:20.320 Not in this country.
00:52:22.180 You got guys like Josh Hawley fighting for you, but it's not enough of them.
00:52:25.420 I mean, this is a disgrace.
00:52:27.600 This is three times Trump has won.
00:52:30.660 Three times Trump has run and won and done great in the House and the Senate every time.
00:52:37.120 Okay?
00:52:37.960 And how many people up there supporting?
00:52:40.880 I'm telling you, you could take the entire Republican Party and it's a handful.
00:52:46.580 When you add the Senate and the House, there's a handful.
00:52:51.040 We've had, what, 10 years of Trump now?
00:52:54.240 This is why it's disgusting.
00:52:56.320 This is why everything's a—why does everything have to be a tractor pull?
00:52:59.580 President, we got so much we got to work on.
00:53:01.820 There's so much.
00:53:02.600 It's almost overwhelming, but it can get done.
00:53:05.220 But then you got an Ed Martin situation.
00:53:06.860 Now we got to spend time.
00:53:07.840 It's opportunity cost.
00:53:08.880 Now you got to spend time and energy on this.
00:53:10.360 President's got to spend the next couple of days getting this thing sorted because a guy like Tom Tillis that owes his entire political career.
00:53:17.080 That Trump is saying, oh, I'm doing it because of January 6th.
00:53:19.280 What in the hell are you talking about, man?
00:53:21.240 Short break.
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