Episode 4466： Thom Thillis Announces His Betrayal Of Trump Appointee Eduardo Martin
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Summary
In recent weeks, President Trump has signed orders against several law firms, orders with the power to destroy them. That matters because lawsuits have been a check on the president s power. Many firms and attorneys have been targeted, among them Mark Elias, a longtime opponent of Trump who is the only lawyer the president has named who was willing to appear on 60 Minutes.
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It was nearly impossible to get anyone on camera for this story because of the fear
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In recent weeks, President Trump has signed orders against several law firms,
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That matters because lawsuits have been a check on the president's power.
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Many firms and attorneys have been targeted, among them Mark Elias,
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a longtime opponent of Trump who is the only lawyer the president has named who was willing to appear on 60 Minutes.
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Elias and others are warning that Trump's assault on the legal profession threatens the rule of law itself.
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Elias says that for him, it began with the president's personal grudge.
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Donald Trump hates me because I fight hard and I fight for free and fair elections.
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I insist on fighting for democracy in court, fighting for voting rights in court,
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and insist on telling the truth about what the outcome of the 2020 election was.
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Are there risks in doing the work that you're doing?
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Do you just leave democracy to fend for itself?
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Or do you stand tall and do the best you can every day to represent your clients and try to preserve the rule of law?
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He was the top lawyer for the Clinton campaign.
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Then in 2020, when Trump and allies challenged the election results,
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Donald Trump is the walking embodiment of everything that is wrong with the American political system.
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And so when Donald Trump says that I am unethical or that I am undermining his vision of America,
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I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time.
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Whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable, but I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January the 6th.
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And that's probably where most of the friction was.
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If Mr. Martin were being put forth as a U.S. attorney for any district except the district where January 6th happened,
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the protests happened, I'd probably support him.
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Targeted firms say what the president signed amounted to a corporate death penalty.
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And it should never be allowed to happen again.
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The orders threaten to bar attorneys from where they work, courthouses and federal agencies,
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For example, an aerospace company could lose its federal contracts if it stayed with the firm.
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A senior partner at one firm told us the president's orders were, quote,
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He said within hours, his major clients were threatening to drop his firm.
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It took only a matter of days before America's wealthiest and most powerful law firms buckled.
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You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Natalie G. Winter is hosting today, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, who you've probably gathered by now, is out on assignment.
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I think we are blessed with the opportunity to, shall we say, return to War Room tradition.
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Though I don't know about you guys, I get a little sick and tired of having to return to our War Room Posse birthright, which is holding rhinos.
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I guess the rhino of today's show will be none other than Senator Tom Tillis, but holding them to account.
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I remember when I sat here while Stephen K. Bannon was in prison, and I liked very much attacking, who was it, Speaker Mike Johnson, the man whose vocabulary is limited to probably Ukraine and continuing resolution.
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But today we're going to share that love with, like I said, Senator Tom Tillis, who I guess apparently is so conservative, is so Republican, despite representing the great state of North Carolina,
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that he has the same viewpoint, the same brilliant mindset on the wonderful, patriotic, truly MAGA man that is Ed Martin.
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He shares a viewpoint on him, that Mark Elias, who you saw in that 60 Minutes opening, and Norm Eisen, which is that he's not fit.
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Because all 12 GOP Senate Judiciary Committee members have to vote unanimously to advance him out of committee, or someone who's frankly even worse, not just talking physiognomy-wise, but that's Judge Bozberg.
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He's going to get to pick Ed Martin's successor.
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Now, pro tip for Senator Tillis, if you're not being called a thug by Mark Elias, or your worldview is something that does not strike fear in the heart of him and his cronies,
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all of the, I guess, true alpha males who are so confident in trying to destroy this country, they can't even appear for a softball interview with Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes.
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Well, hey, Scott, if you want to interview me or Steve or anyone in this audience, we're around.
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But, Tom Tillis, you are very much on the wrong side of history.
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And frankly, I believe we're going to stop my Tom Tillis right here because President Trump is speaking live.
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My producers are telling me, don't worry, we're going to get back to it because there's a lot we have to get through on his record.
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I think Steve Whitcoff is behind him, so let's toss to that and we'll get back once he wraps.
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I think that this is potentially a great time for our country in solving a lot of problems that we inherited that we should have never had, frankly.
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Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's incredible, and Senator Lindsey Graham.
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Steve is a graduate of some great schools, including Hofstra University, where he studied political science and law.
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After graduating, he entered the real estate business, co-founding the Stellar Management Company in 1985 and launching a legendary career.
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And they said, that guy's smart, but he just started.
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Steve quickly established himself as one of the toughest, smartest, and best negotiators in the business.
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In 1997, he founded the Whitcoff Group, which now owns dozens of the most beautiful and iconic properties in the entire world.
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As a businessman, he's admired and respected by all.
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And now Steve is putting his talents to work for America as special envoy to the United States and making a lot of progress.
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Our country is blessed to have a negotiator of such skill and experience who really selflessly steps up to the plate, puts himself forward all the time.
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Over the past few months, Steve has already helped negotiate the return of dozens of hostages from Gaza.
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And also hostages from other parts of the globe.
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He's met with President Putin, Prime Minister Netanyahu, representatives Iran and many other places.
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He is meeting with people that he never really thought he'd ever meet just a few months ago.
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He's working tirelessly to end the bloody and destructive conflicts.
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And one in particular with Russia and Ukraine, where you're losing 5,000 young people a week on average, Ukrainian soldiers, Russian soldiers, and people in towns and villages that are being killed.
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And we're working, Steve, is in the Middle East, where I think we're having some very good success.
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And, you know, we're taking the word of the Houthis.
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And they have decided that they don't want to do this anymore.
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But I said, we need somebody with two things, a great personality and somebody that could negotiate.
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And I want to, very, very importantly, I want to say to Marco Rubio that you're swearing in a very important person.
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I said, Steve, you better do a good job of Marco.
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He will fire you so violently you have no idea.
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on which i'm about to enter on which i am about to enter so help me god so help me god
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you have any uh good job thank you marco any questions for steve
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no it's a shame we just heard about it just as we were walking in the doors of the oval
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uh just heard about it i guess people knew something was going to happen based on
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a little bit of the past they've been fighting for a long time you know they've been fighting for
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many many decades and centuries actually if you really think about it
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well the plan we haven't talked about but we're not planning on stopping in israel but we will be
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doing it at some point but not for this trip there's a report that the uk is offering various trade
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concessions uh what's your response to that and also what the united kingdom yeah and can can you
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also say if you were discussing tariffs with mr old and what about the united kingdom they're offering
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various trade concessions apparently cars steel digital service they're offering us concessions
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i hope so they do want to make a deal very badly you say uh your guests here are you discussing
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tariffs or business no i think that united kingdom like every other country they want to
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they want to be uh go shopping in the united states of america china wants to very much wants to make
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a deal they all do uh but uh yeah i would say that um every country wants to make a deal and not the
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ones they had in the past where we were like look we were being ripped off by every country practically
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without exception in the entire world and those days are over those days are over and you know i said before
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in our meeting with the new and very talented prime minister of canada that we have some very big
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announcement to make it's not about trade it's about something else but it's going to be
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a truly earth-shattering and positive development for this country and for the people of this country
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and that'll take place sometime within the next few days
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any plans for mr wickhoff to travel once again to russia and as you mentioned in your remarks he's
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traveled to russia on a number of occasions he's met with president putin what type of progress is being
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made as it relates to all of those visits that he's made to russia i think a lot because i think russia
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wanted to take all of ukraine and they've stopped that's a lot of progress you know it's a small
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it's a portion of ukraine but no i think a lot i think if we weren't here uh they would be right
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now fighting to take the whole country and they're not doing that so i think that's a lot of progress
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mr president please i don't like anything about that war it's a war i don't like anything about
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it and i'm not happy with that no not at all not even a little bit yeah the houthis are backing down
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we're seeing conflicting reports that they plan on continuing to attack israel in support of gaza
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does that change the equation uh no i don't know about that frankly but i know one thing
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they want nothing to do with us and they've let that be known through all of their surrogates and
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very strongly is there a hostage deal that's imminent and are you talking to netanyahu right now about
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their plan to level the rest of gaza we're talking to him about a lot of things right now this is really
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crunch time i would tell you for iran and uh for their country this is a very important time for
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iran this is the most important time in the history of iran for iran and i hope they do what's right
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i'd love to see a peace deal a strong peace so they cannot have a nuclear weapon but i would say that
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this is the single most important period in the history of iran which is a long history and we want
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it to be a great country let it be a tremendously successful rich country they have everything you
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need the people are incredible they have vast amounts of oil and assets we want it to be a
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successful country we don't want to do anything that's going to get in the way of that but they
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can't have a nuclear weapon and if they choose to go a different route it's going to be a very sad thing
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and and it's something we don't want to have to do but we have no choice they're not going to have a
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nuclear weapon they're not going to have a nuclear weapon do you understand that okay
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in regards to the hoopis has um have you told the military to stop attacks against we just
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yeah we just informed them a little while ago and uh all action is stopping some people probably
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haven't heard yet you know there are various people in various rather strategic locations but
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by this moment they should just about all know marco i think that the attacks are going to stop both ways
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and uh that's uh pretty much it but we've just informed everybody just a little while ago
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to attack israel which you said he didn't know about but if they continue to attack israel
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just not well i'll discuss that if something happens okay if something happens with israel
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well i can announce all of them now i could announce uh 50 to 100 deals right now because
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you know i'm the shopkeeper and i keep the store and uh you know i know what countries are looking for
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and i know what we're looking for and i can just set those terms and they can go shopping or they don't
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have to go shopping because everybody wants to shop here this is like a beautiful store this is like
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one of uh bernard arno maybe i should say alex even more importantly young the future
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but bernard said honor to have you have a meeting after this uh but he has the greatest stores in the
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world and they want to shop our country is the greatest store in the world of that kind and everybody
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wants a piece of it and they took advantage of us for years because we allowed presidents
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our presidents allowed it to happen you know i don't blame china and i don't blame uh vietnam and
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i could name every single country all the way up and down the line south korea every single country
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took advantage of us without exception japan these are friends of mine but they took advantage of this
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country they ripped off our country selling us millions and millions of cars a year and we sold them
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none we weren't allowed to sell them a car they took advantage of us i don't blame them i
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blame the people that sat behind that desk that allowed it to happen but uh i don't allow it to
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happen i didn't in the first term but this is a much stronger position because uh we did we're the
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greatest economy in history in our first term stock market was up 88 percent we had numbers much better
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than that but uh this is going to be i think a much better term and i think uh the tariffs are coming
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in starting to come in uh we're we were losing five billion dollars plus a day on trade now we're not
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losing that kind of money and we'll soon be making a lot of money a day and a year and a month
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for you and perhaps the attorney general um the justice department recently received a criminal
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referral against new york attorney general tish james for fraud we haven't heard much about it uh
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you or the attorney general give us an update as to what's going on with that investigation
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well i don't want to get involved in something that uh pamela's involved with if you'd like to
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say something pam or i can say unrelated to that she's a disaster for new york she's a horrible
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horrible human being and i think she's a total crook there's no question about it but that's just my
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opinion pam's gonna have to do what she wants she's a very bad person she's a very very a very bad person
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who campaigned solely on i'm gonna get donald trump over and over again she's a sick person but that's
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has nothing to do with what pam does uh pam is going to do what's right she always does i've
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known her a long time yeah go ahead behind you thank you um on gaza you said there's been progress
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and progress in the middle east at the moment as a colleague said um israel netanyahu is saying he
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now wants to conquer gaza is there any prospect of any movement on that are you happy with what
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well we've done very slowly because we want to try and get as many hostages saved as possible and we've
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done a good job in that regard uh two weeks ago i had 10 hostages come in and they thanked me
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profusely and i said you have nothing to thank me about you what they went through is incredible they
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lived in a pipe you know they keep hearing about caves it was a pipe three and a half feet high and
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they didn't know if they were going to breathe they didn't know if they were going to live to the
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next day they lived like i couldn't believe the stories i was hearing and and they weren't
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grandstanding these were people that were seriously mistreated one was in for 512 days
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one was in for 361 i guess days and uh one was in for a shorter period of time the stories were
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unbelievable i said how many people left how many are left they said 59 i said oh wow that's more than
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i thought they said well only 24 are living but now it's 21 that was a week ago now it's 21 are living
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and these are young people these are young people don't die old people die young people don't die
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under these conditions so of the 59 people and they said 59 and i said really uh but they said only 24
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are living and i now correct i say 21 because as of today it's 21 three have died so this is a terrible
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situation uh we're trying to get the hostages out we've gotten a lot of them out uh as the
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expression goes there's 21 plus a lot of dead bodies you know parents came up to me on numerous
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occasions but a couple in particular they came up to me two weeks ago and they said
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please sir my son is dead please get us back his body they wanted his body he's dead they know he's
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said they wanted his body as much as you would want the boy if he was alive it's a very sad thing
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all right thank you president trump wonderful remarks as always always taking questions i've been told i may
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what state-sponsored propagandists for usually being in that rotation frankly it just shows you
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the contempt that they have for you guys the war room audience they think the questions that are asked
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by people like myself and brian glenn are not as deserving as those asked by i guess smug elitist
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new york times reporters quite a uh freudian slip there uh mike benz i think we have you joining us
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we're gonna go to the wonderful attorney general ken paxton shortly but until then mike benz i want you to
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walk us through before we get to even get into the politics of tom tillis who's opposing um ed martin
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why his role is so critical when it comes to investigations accountability with the war room
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version of accountability particularly i think you called it the choke point of a lot of these dc
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prosecutions the dc prosecutor's office is the top of the pyramid when it comes to the most corrupt
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secrets of dc people think about the abuses of the fbi and you have to understand the fbi
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serves the justice department the fbi is the investigative arm of the justice department
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so when the fbi spies on you that means the prosecutors approved it when the fbi raids your
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your home that means the justice department approved it and the justice department has main justice that's
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pam bondi but it's got the different branch offices in all of the different jurisdictions in
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the united states and the most important jurisdiction when it comes to cleaning up the swamp is the
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jurisdiction over the swamp washington dc that is the position that ed martin has been nominated to
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be the head of the dc uh justice department the u.s attorney for the district of columbia
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and so all secrets flow through there all investigations flow through there all uh local
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authorizations for the fbi flow through there so anything that you want to do to clean up the swamp
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that requires the justice department is going to require somebody who believes in donald trump's agenda
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and can be trusted to take on very very serious and dark forces and if ed martin is not confirmed by the
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time that his term runs out as acting u.s attorney for for the district of columbia on may 19th that is
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less than two weeks away now judge boseberg the most corrupt he's the chief justice for uh for the dc
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circuit by law will get to hand pick the dc prosecutor so there have been all these scandals there have
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been lawsuits now filed and about judge boseberg potentially uh circumventing the random selection
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process in order to uh airdrop into into handling uh cases that have all gone in the most monstrous
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way possible well he will get to not just hand pick cases he'll get to hand pick the prosecutor and
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the prosecutor will get to dictate the fbi so if if ed martin is not confirmed all of the momentum we have
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had for the past 100 odd days is going to uh stop it will be a screeching stop to all of it and there
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will be almost no hope for serious reform of the federal agencies of federal bureaucrats or anything
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this is a hand wrapped gift to norm eisen and all the little color revolution plotters to not just
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take their control over the judiciary but add the prosecutors who are the most dangerous of all
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and walk us through why you think tillis who of course is sort of a representation of the forces
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that oppose him like you alluded to norm eyes and mark elias why do you think he has become the hotbed
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of resistance in this case well this is where it gets into speculation for me i get the sense that he's
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jumping on the grenade where several other uh uh republicans in the senate who tend to go against the trump
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agenda are saying that they will they they've now switched there were about five of them
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who seem to indicate they would they would be blocking ed martin but uh one by one they have
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indicated that they uh will approve approve ed martin if he if it comes to a committee vote
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and tom and there's 12 senate uh republicans on that senate judicial committee that requires unanimous
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vote to get it off the committee and onto the floor and tom tillis is the one of the 12
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who is saying that he is going to hold that up and here's where to me it gets very dark tom
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tillis has made precisely one public statement about this to the press and that was just this morning
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where he said it was january 6th that uh is the reason that he is not going to approve ed martin
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and obviously january 6th was a fed surrection january 6th also happened
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checks notes what four four years and four months ago it has no play today everyone uh you know who
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did not commit a violent crime that day has been pardoned by the uh by the president of the united
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states the there are no active cases when it comes to peaceful protesters this is not just an
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ancient memory it's settled it's done for that to be invoked as the reason to block ed martin suggests
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something much darker to me because if you actually parse that statement that senator tom tillis said
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is he mentions towards the end of his remarks that he was apprehensive about ed martin pursuing a
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fed surrection theory of the case he he alludes to uh the fact that he says that there was no federal
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involvement that was a sort of pipe dream and paraphrasing what he says and he slips that in there and
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i find that very curious because he's a senator from north carolina and north carolina is the heart of the
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shall we say uh mark milley deep state when it comes to
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all things psychological operations uh domestic uh a very nasty history of domestic interference
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and domestic politics well and ralph barrick at unc chapel hill doing the covet gain of function stuff
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mike if you can hang with us through the break uh possibly we're also going to have ag ken paxton
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joining us shortly to get into all this so mike i want an update on what i think you are rightfully
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known for all things ngos how they're funding all that resistance after we come back if you can hang
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welcome back to the war room we're still joined by mike benz mike if you could just give me two
00:33:02.700
minutes you know this audience is always wanting to be ahead of the curve on how they're sort of
00:33:06.940
reformulating their resistance to trump obviously the ngo is taking a key role if not the foremost
00:33:12.700
role maybe second to the judiciary though as you've alluded to they're all conjoined it's all one of the
00:33:17.820
same how have they sort of been rebranding i know this is a topic you've been discussing a lot but
00:33:22.380
just give us some some key pointers i know they'll find everything you're talking on on x too but
00:33:26.700
just give us some of the top line assessment i know this is not the question that you just i know
00:33:32.780
this is not the question you just asked but uh i was just talking about tom tillis in north carolina
00:33:38.620
in january 6 and if i only have a minute and a half i'd like to just put something out there to
00:33:43.580
to put the button on that because i think it's extremely concerning and important if you don't
00:33:47.420
mind north carolina where tom tillis is the senator played an extraordinary role in january 6 itself
00:33:54.380
which is why it highly disturbs me that senator tillis would be the one who's blocking this from
00:33:58.780
the republican side north carolina is what houses fort bragg the special operations the psychological
00:34:05.180
operations center and and where they're where organizing protest activity has been a hotbed of that exact
00:34:12.620
place for coming up on 60 years now going back to lyman lemnitzer and the joint chiefs of staff
00:34:17.580
domestic operations in the 1960s but most importantly north carolina was the center of the fed's erection
00:34:25.260
logistics for january 6. go back and read the thomas caldwell complaint from the justice department
00:34:31.660
there's the entire eastern seaboard presence of the proud boys the oath keepers and the three percenters
00:34:38.620
all three days before january 6 starting january 3 met commonly in north carolina where the fbi and
00:34:46.060
justice department allowed the quote quick reaction force bringing the guns and explosives to skate free
00:34:52.620
as an unindicted co-conspirator this person was called person three and i'm going to read a few things
00:34:57.740
from this complaint person three is it has a room and is bringing someone he will be the quick reaction
00:35:03.740
force oath keeper friends from north carolina are taking commercial buses up early in the morning the
00:35:08.060
same night they will have the goodies in uh in case things go bad and we need to get heavy then it says
00:35:14.300
person three had maps person three uh you know created maps of the of the capital in order to uh map out
00:35:24.060
where to go he brought he was the trend the transit for actually bringing the guns and explosives to
00:35:29.580
the meetup site in north carolina and this this person who was literally transporting heavy weapons
00:35:37.420
with a quote quote uh ferry planned a ferry heavy weapons across the potomac should that become necessary
00:35:44.380
on january 6 and distributing maps to find the quickest route to the capital should those heavy weapons be
00:35:50.700
needed this person played the key role in for the basis of the indictment of the entire
00:35:58.140
oath keepers squad never was charged again right there in north carolina right where the military
00:36:05.740
should have been doing its uh its counterintelligence and counterinsurgency work we know mark milley
00:36:11.340
said to gina haspel the head of the cia on november 9th 2020 just two months before january 6th
00:36:17.180
that there was a right-wing coup afoot and something needed to be done to stop it mark milley would not
00:36:21.660
just go back and sit on his thumbs if that's what he said to the cia director they would be infiltrating
00:36:27.580
those very groups and they would be doing it right there in north carolina where fort bragg is and
00:36:32.700
exactly where they said the meetup point for january 6th was so my question is is what is so scary
00:36:39.260
about the fed surrection theory given north carolina's role in it that the senator from north carolina is the
00:36:45.580
one blocking it and the irony and all of that mike bends is that you essentially answered my question
00:36:53.100
because it all goes back to ngos and weird bizarre federal funding ending up in places that it probably
00:36:58.460
shouldn't mike i wish we had more time but in the meantime before you're back on if the posse wants to
00:37:03.340
keep up to date with all of your wonderful wonderful analysis and reporting where can they go to do that
00:37:08.060
find me on x at mike ben cyber a must follow thank you sir for coming on thanks natalie
00:37:18.700
an honor to be joined now by attorney general ken paxton a true fighter true patriot true hero frankly
00:37:26.460
on every issue i think you have probably one of the best records in modern american politics no different
00:37:32.060
when it comes to the wonderful u.s attorney for the district of columbia at martin you wrote
00:37:37.420
a wonderful letter very recently uh expressing your support for him uh i'd love if you could walk
00:37:44.300
the audience through first and foremost why you think he's such an excellent pick for the job
00:37:48.540
his obviously has a wonderful performance under his belt already but more importantly your sort of
00:37:53.260
analysis of some of the people who are outright opposing him or in some cases not explicitly supporting him
00:37:58.300
so first of all it wasn't just my letter this is a lot of republican attorney generals agreeing with
00:38:03.420
me and me agreeing with them that ed martin is a great choice for u.s attorney in the district of
00:38:08.780
columbia as mike suggested this is a difficult place that the department of justice has has been
00:38:15.660
has had problems under the biden administration being uh known for you know prosecuting people for
00:38:21.340
for their views or political views as opposed to focusing on prosecuting crime and so ed martin
00:38:26.540
is the guy that can bring my place back it's it's a lot of work to do when you've got corruption
00:38:31.260
we've got to ferret it out and you've got to change the direction of an agency that's exactly
00:38:36.060
the kind of person we want and i certainly understand why certain establishment republicans
00:38:40.380
including initially my senator who finally got on board because he has a primary opponent
00:38:44.380
why they don't want a guy like that in position to change things that's not that's not the usual
00:38:49.340
direction of washington so i think it's super important there's nothing more important than making
00:38:53.180
sure that our justice department our fbi are operating appropriately and doing the job of
00:38:58.300
justice as opposed to political you know political motives that have been have been going on for at
00:39:03.740
least the last four years surely it's it's speculative i asked mike the same question but
00:39:09.820
you know you have these people who talk out of both sides of their mouth acting like they're president
00:39:13.260
trump's staunchest defenders and supporters in both rhetoric and in terms of legislation here on the hill but
00:39:18.540
then they're not giving him the cabinet that he had an overwhelming mandate and that he deserves uh
00:39:23.420
to actually have i guess in this case it's not necessarily can remember but your thoughts on what
00:39:28.380
you think the underlying motivators are whether it's cornyn like i said in the case of tillis who's coming
00:39:34.060
out you know outright but just the outright sabotage how can these people pretend that they're doing
00:39:39.260
anything to help the maga movement when they're you know blackballing blacklisting someone who i think has
00:39:44.620
been one of the most hardcore maga devotees that exists out there look it's got it they're aligned
00:39:50.780
with they're not aligned with their constituents and that's that's been shown for years that's why
00:39:54.940
there's so much frustration with congress with our senate it's one of the reasons i'm running the
00:39:59.500
people that are representing us the john corners and the others who are not aligned with their their
00:40:04.700
actual voters they're aligned with powers in washington dc they're aligned with other political forces
00:40:09.820
that are not benefiting the united states that are not benefiting the people of my state texas
00:40:14.540
and so they're operating and they show it by their behavior they do talk out of both sides they
00:40:18.860
talk about you know how how much they support donald trump and how they're there for him on
00:40:23.100
everything it's just not true it's not accurate and their own behavior by the fact that they wait to
00:40:28.540
get on or and they trade off supporting and killing things under the trump administration so yeah so my
00:40:34.460
cornyn you know john cornyn jumps on but then he lets somebody else you know you know jump on the
00:40:38.780
grenade because they don't have a primary opponent so that is the problem with the senate they are not
00:40:43.420
aligned with president trump at all times when they should be on these very important issues
00:40:47.660
especially this one yeah i mean relinquishing control over that pick to judge bozberg by the
00:40:54.780
way the same people who have voted to confirm merrick garland and matthew graves and all of essentially
00:40:59.740
all of biden's cabinet yeah i'm seeing a little bit of hypocrisy there but you've been firing on all
00:41:05.260
cylinders too whether taking the fight on the crt that crazy front or also the ccp um if we can go
00:41:12.300
through some of the legal action i think our audience is probably particularly compelled by
00:41:16.380
what you've been doing to rid texas schools of critical race theory i think you just had a big
00:41:22.940
win if you want to let the audience know yeah it's it's a big deal what our kids are being taught this
00:41:28.300
critical race theory that is crazy stuff it's it's designed to direct our children in a very bad path
00:41:35.660
and fortunately our legislature has empowered me to go stop it now i don't the only authority i have is to
00:41:40.780
go actually stop it so we've done that we just we just sued coppell which is a northern conservative
00:41:46.700
area and that fell school district of its very issue and we we got a win we got them to stop
00:41:52.460
and acknowledge that what they were doing was wrong to acknowledge and not tell their teachers and
00:41:57.740
their staff to no longer take no longer race to which is a clear violation of their violence so as long
00:42:02.860
as i see all that i see that we discussed as long as we're being involved in something that's actually
00:42:07.740
we will stop we will stop the race they're really pushed onto our children onto our children
00:42:15.900
and can you walk us through too you know we've always been the home of anti-ccp resistance whether
00:42:21.980
it's military civil fusion or using all of these so-called independent chinese companies i always say
00:42:27.500
there's no such thing as a non-state-owned enterprise in china as you know they can all be requisitioned by
00:42:33.340
beijing per article 7 of their national intelligence law and be compelled to give over data or any
00:42:39.500
information uh that the ministry of state security deems advantageous to the national interests of the
00:42:45.020
chinese communist party yet somehow our wonderful elites the laws that i guess people like cornyn and
00:42:50.540
tillis have allowed to pass have made it so these companies can operate here and have you know open
00:42:54.700
season on our data and in some cases i guess our farmland and spy balloons the list goes on especially
00:43:00.380
under joe biden but you're trying to push back particularly on data collection at the hands
00:43:05.660
of the chinese communist party or they're like you know pseudo ccp entities can you walk us through that
00:43:11.980
as well yeah fortunately some people are catching on including texans that the the communist party in
00:43:17.980
china is not our friend as much as me we might want them to be much as we might want to trade with
00:43:21.980
them much as me what we we might want good things to happen that relationship the reality is they are
00:43:27.500
doing things that harm us and one of the things they're doing is collecting data on every u.s citizen
00:43:32.940
that they can to use to their advantage and use against us unfortunately our legislature again seeing the
00:43:39.100
seeing the problem passed a data security privacy act and it doesn't just affect the chinese it affects
00:43:44.940
all companies it just so happens the chinese are not honoring that that law that law says that they
00:43:50.220
if they are collecting consumer data they have to inform the consumer and if that consumer wants
00:43:55.020
to get rid of that data them having that data they have the right to do that and unfortunately some
00:43:59.900
of these companies um some of these companies like alibaba and others tp link have not followed that law
00:44:07.260
and so we've given them notice 30 days notice that they have to stop collecting that data without
00:44:13.340
informed consent and the right of the consumer to stop it and if they do not do that we will we will sue
00:44:19.820
them and it's wild too how so many of these firms have active lobbying registrations working with
00:44:28.220
firms on k street here in dc representing them making it harder for you and other ags like you who want
00:44:35.420
to push back on their ability to infiltrate and i use that word in its truest intentions this entire
00:44:41.260
country and collect i mean i probably a cia level uh intel on the american people ag camp axon thank
00:44:48.460
you so much for joining us and like i say there are very few people in politics so i think have as
00:44:53.340
wonderful a record as you do in terms of actually taking the fight on and understanding what accountability
00:44:59.260
means it's not just found in letters and tweets and i know the audience really really appreciates that from
00:45:04.540
you um if they want to keep up to date with everything you're working on it sounds like it's a lot
00:45:09.260
uh the tweets all of it the press releases where can they go to do all that well ken paxton.com is
00:45:14.940
my website and at ken paxton tx is my x account so take a look a must follow thank you so much for
00:45:23.100
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00:48:06.940
related to january 6th i think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some
00:48:11.660
period of time whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable but i have no tolerance for anybody who
00:48:17.740
entered the building on january the 6th and that's probably where most of the friction was mr martin
00:48:22.140
were being put forth as a u.s attorney for any district except the district where january 6 happened
00:48:28.140
the the protests happened i'd probably support debatable that is an interesting choice of words
00:48:36.380
i guess i guess three days sorry 30 days verse three years right that warrants a discussion so much
00:48:44.380
so that mr tom tillis can't bring himself to vote for ed martin happy giving that over seating that to
00:48:53.020
judge bozberg someone who thinks we should keep convicted illegal alien rapist criminals in this country
00:48:59.260
that sounds like an interesting form of morality i've never heard of but i digress
00:49:04.460
but he can't entertain a vote for ed martin because of that debate but it's quite an interesting
00:49:10.060
admission because apparently he didn't find anything debatable about and i'm going to read you the list
00:49:15.100
of all the names of biden appointees that he voted for antony blinken janet yellen lloyd austin
00:49:21.980
merrick garland pete buddha judge that's a real winner right there nothing to debate on that front
00:49:27.100
and gina raimondo and just to i guess complete this wonderful record that our dear friend senator
00:49:34.700
tillis has you can also throw in ed martin's counterpart that is matthew graves who oversaw
00:49:41.660
the prosecution and persecution of what was it 1500 maga patriots probably people who used to watch and
00:49:48.460
now can because of president trump again watch this show and i would humbly put forth that the best
00:49:55.580
way to understand why this man is so opposed to ed martin is by something that even in my 24 years on
00:50:03.340
this planet i've learned in politics and that's following the money and it's quite interesting
00:50:09.100
right like mike benz was talking about this role this position it gives you essentially control over
00:50:15.900
so much of the investigations that touch and run across all of washington dc and ed martin who what was
00:50:22.620
it got a lot of flack for coming and representing and advocating so strongly against people who
00:50:27.660
wanted to shut down doge and let's put maybe the act blue investigation just flag that put a little
00:50:34.460
asterisk on that one so it's quite interesting to me i was looking through his top donors and
00:50:39.580
contributors well it comes primarily from the financial services and finance industry
00:50:45.020
that's interesting and when i looked at who his number one contributor was it was actually blackstone
00:50:54.140
i wonder why they don't want any investigations going on in dc and of course senator tillis now
00:51:01.740
we'll get a little personal his whole claim to fame these last few months has been the lone republican
00:51:06.140
who's standing up to evil president trump who doesn't want to continue giving your tax dollars to ukraine
00:51:11.580
and apparently we need to share our intel capabilities with them too and if you roll the
00:51:18.060
tape a little bit more right he thinks that what january sixers are not able to be redeemed they need to
00:51:25.260
be thrown in prison and locked away they should be given given i guess the seacot treatment but you
00:51:31.260
know what's so funny because this is the same guy who essentially sponsored if not wrote a mass
00:51:37.260
amnesty immigration bill that would have given people who entered this country illegally amnesty
00:51:44.140
full citizenship rights h-1b visa recipients their kids working documentation and would have allowed
00:51:50.380
for what was it i think 5 000 illegal aliens to pour into this country every single day under joe biden
00:51:58.300
that was euphemized as you know strict border control but i'm sorry senator tillis you want to give
00:52:04.700
illegal aliens more nuance and understanding and compassion and how you handle their cases then
00:52:12.940
you'll give american patriots who dared to stand up to a contested election and that's the reason that
00:52:19.500
you can't vote for ed martin where were you when january sixers when your constituents were getting thrown
00:52:27.020
in prison you're probably lobbying for more money to go to ukraine or for illegals to be allowed in this
00:52:33.660
country or i don't know another issue that i don't know i would maybe say a little bit debatable
00:52:38.300
to use a word that i've heard from you i guess while all those january sixers are getting thrown away
00:52:43.740
you felt the need to vote for the law that codified same-sex marriage
00:52:49.340
i don't know about me i think that's a little debatable
00:52:52.220
right ed martin is bad because he will give january six participants grace let's look at how you feel
00:52:58.700
comfortable talking about zelensky i know you care so much about democracy well this man's
00:53:03.020
canceled elections but look at the love that you're willing to show for him on the senate floor
00:53:07.580
denver let's roll that clip so i would say to the ukrainian people and president zelensky thank you
00:53:14.380
in spite of the fact that dozens of people have died this week including civilians at the hands of
00:53:21.900
decisions made by putin thank you for being willing to set lay down your guns and try and get to peace
00:53:27.740
there but the american people need to know that putin is a liar he is a murderer he hates democracy
00:53:36.060
that's what this is about folks this is about good versus evil this is about totalitarian
00:53:41.260
versus this messy thing we call democracy no senator tillis you should be saying thank
00:53:47.980
you to ed martin because he has more courage and conviction and one ounce of him than you do in your
00:53:53.820
entire body and your shameless feckless political career where you have done nothing but essentially
00:53:58.860
be a democrat acting like a republican and cheapening what it means to even be one and
00:54:05.420
how dense you are to stand up there and say what's going on in ukraine represents a battle between two
00:54:10.940
competing worldviews of authoritarianism and democracy setting that issue aside if you were so smart like
00:54:19.260
i'm sure you feel when you go to all the dc cocktail parties that you get invited to because you're
00:54:23.180
willing to attack president trump you know that that's the fight that we have right here going
00:54:28.220
on in this country right now and there's no better person equipped to helm that fight than someone like
00:54:34.460
ed martin who actually has a track record of making america great again and standing and holding the line
00:54:40.940
when it gets a little tough and not running to the legacy media for cover so shame on you and warren
00:54:46.220
posse it's 202-224-3121 and ask him how he felt comfortable voting for merrick garland
00:54:52.620
and matthew graves but not ed martin i'd love to hear your spin on that and don't ever tell me to
00:54:57.660
thank zelensky again you can get the speaker johnson treatment or you can reverse your ways
00:55:04.860
we got a minute left we got the wonderful mike lindell joining us mike hit us with the latest deals or
00:55:10.620
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