Bannon's War Room - Episode 4493： Biden's Admission Could Lead To Criminal Charges; Spending Spirals Out Of Control

00:00:00.000 This time we were living in Chambers Road and there were documents related to the Penn-Biden Center or the Biden Center or the cancer from your shot or your book.

00:00:12.400 Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working on?

00:00:21.860 Well, I don't know.

00:00:28.840 This is, what, 2017, 18, that period?

00:00:34.600 Yes, sir.

00:00:36.380 Remember, in this time frame, my son has either been deployed or is dying.

00:00:47.560 And so it was – and by the way, there were still a lot of people.

00:00:58.840 It was a lot of time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, except the president.

00:01:10.120 And I'm not – it's not a mean thing to say, I mean, he just thought that she had a better shot of winning the presidency than I did.

00:01:20.160 And so I hadn't – I hadn't at this point, even though I'm at Penn, I hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run for office again.

00:01:29.920 But if I ran again, I'd be running for president.

00:01:32.120 And so what was happening, though, one month of Bo died, oh God, May 30th – 2015.

00:01:45.240 When in 2015, he had died.

00:01:47.760 When in 2015.

00:01:49.200 I think it was 2015.

00:01:50.740 I'm not sure the month of – I think that was –

00:01:52.580 Yeah.

00:01:53.520 That's right, Mr. President.

00:01:55.120 And what's happened in the meantime is that as – and Trump gets elected in November of 2017?

00:02:12.000 2016.

00:02:12.620 2016.

00:02:13.400 2016.

00:02:14.720 All right.

00:02:15.920 So – why did I have 2017 here?

00:02:21.840 That's when you left office in January of 2017.

00:02:25.280 Yeah, okay.

00:02:29.080 But that's when Trump gets sworn in.

00:02:31.900 Right, right, correct.

00:02:32.940 Okay, yeah.

00:02:34.920 And in 2017, Bo had passed and – this is personal.

00:02:51.840 Was this memo, Mr. President, was this something that you consciously kept after your term as

00:03:01.800 vice president?

00:03:03.220 Is this something that you wanted to hold on to?

00:03:05.620 I don't recall.

00:03:06.780 Did I have this – was this in my possession, this memo?

00:03:09.920 Yes, and to give you some context for this, Mr. President, it was found in the front of

00:03:14.940 this notebook that's on the first page, and the notebook was found in the library at the

00:03:21.260 Lake House in one of the drawers.

00:03:24.520 Your answer is that you don't recall.

00:03:25.980 I don't recall how it got back – I mean, I don't recall how it got back in the book because

00:03:31.880 I sent it to the president.

00:03:33.920 I gave it to the president.

00:03:34.980 And this looks like the original.

00:03:37.180 I don't think it was – maybe it's a copy made it, but I don't think so.

00:03:40.120 It was faxed just to give you some context.

00:03:42.440 Oh, okay.

00:03:43.080 That's why.

00:03:43.740 Yeah.

00:03:44.600 All right.

00:03:45.140 No, I got it.

00:03:46.020 I wasn't sure how I got – whether I gave it to the president.

00:03:50.260 It was faxed to the president, which I had to copy.

00:03:52.740 Right.

00:03:53.400 Okay.

00:03:53.780 You had the original.

00:03:54.520 Yeah, I had the original.

00:03:55.320 And I just put it in the book, and that was it.

00:03:57.360 Okay.

00:03:57.640 Were you aware that you had kept it after your term as vice president?

00:04:04.360 Did you know that you had it?

00:04:06.520 I don't know that I knew, but it wouldn't have – it wouldn't sound something I would

00:04:11.520 have started to think about.

00:04:14.700 The reason I ask is it's been written about – Bob Woodward wrote about it in one of his

00:04:19.780 books.

00:04:21.300 Jules Winkover wrote about it in his biography of you.

00:04:24.700 So that's the reason I asked, is if it was something that you wanted to hang on to because

00:04:30.180 it was going to be the subject of reporting or –

00:04:32.900 I don't know if it was going to be the subject of reporting, but I wanted to hang – I guess

00:04:36.980 I wanted to hang on to it just for posterity's sake.

00:04:40.180 I mean, this was my position on Afghanistan.

00:04:44.200 In the course of explaining that memo about Afghanistan, you said to Mark, I just found all the classified

00:04:52.080 stuff downstairs.

00:04:54.700 And so you can imagine, we are curious, what you meant when you said, I just found all the

00:05:02.560 classified stuff downstairs.

00:05:05.900 I don't remember.

00:05:09.260 I'm not supposed to speculate, right?

00:05:11.160 Correct.

00:05:11.360 Okay, well, I don't remember, and it may have been – I just don't remember.

00:05:24.920 Okay.

00:05:25.620 Do you remember telling Mark about the handwritten memo that you had written for President Obama?

00:05:32.400 I probably did.

00:05:33.320 I don't remember specifically, but my guess is I may have done that.

00:05:38.460 Okay.

00:05:38.880 Do you remember telling him, I just found all the marked classified stuff downstairs?

00:05:47.320 Telling Mark.

00:05:48.380 Do you remember saying that to him?

00:05:50.180 No.

00:05:50.460 Okay.

00:05:51.520 Do you remember actually finding any classified stuff downstairs?

00:05:57.740 No.

00:05:58.220 We appreciate very much your willingness, and we hope that you will be able to – that you

00:06:06.340 will put forth your best efforts in really trying to get your best recollection in response

00:06:11.360 to the questions we ask, because I acknowledge that some of the questions we are asking related

00:06:15.460 to events that happened years ago.

00:06:16.900 I'm a young man, so it's not a problem.

00:06:24.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:06:28.880 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:06:34.120 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:06:38.420 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:06:40.320 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:06:41.760 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:06:44.440 It's going to happen.

00:06:45.480 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:49.100 Mega Media.

00:06:50.020 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:55.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:06:59.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:07:05.960 War Room.

00:07:06.860 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:07:09.280 It's Saturday, 17 May, Year of Our Lord, 2025.

00:07:19.000 Blockbuster tape put out last night, first in about a four, four and a half minute clip,

00:07:24.380 and then later in the evening put out exclusively at Axios.

00:07:28.200 The reporter's Mark Caputo.

00:07:29.520 He joins us now.

00:07:31.020 Mark, first off, how many years have you been a reporter, sir?

00:07:34.420 I guess I'm old as the hills since 1996, and you do the math.

00:07:43.420 So you've been doing this a couple of three years, right?

00:07:47.720 A little bit.

00:07:48.380 Is this one of the biggest blockbuster stories you've ever handled?

00:07:56.420 Because, dude, this is so much bigger than Watergate.

00:07:59.960 I'm actually gobsmacked on your first clip, and then when I heard the whole thing.

00:08:04.880 Is this the biggest scandal you've ever handled in your life?

00:08:08.880 I don't know about the biggest scandal, but it's a huge news story because it speaks to

00:08:17.840 all of these different themes and elements that had been discussed in the 2020 campaign,

00:08:23.460 2024, and then after, which was in 2016, even, to a degree, which is Joe Biden decided

00:08:31.880 to run, and there were persistent questions about his age, and his administration and his

00:08:38.860 campaign did a very effective job putting up enough guardrails around him, bubble wrapping

00:08:44.640 him, and also relying in some cases on very skillfully placed stories, for instance, that

00:08:50.260 he had a stutter, to explain how he had lost some of his edge, to put it general.

00:08:56.100 And now, after the Biden White House had refused to release these tapes, the Biden Department

00:09:04.240 of Justice had refused to release these tapes of him sitting down with this special prosecutor,

00:09:09.980 we now actually hear for the first time.

00:09:12.040 It adds a real dimension to that discussion that happened that day that we just didn't

00:09:17.760 hear before.

00:09:19.240 And some of it is just the normal stuff of asking anybody, hey, what happened a few years

00:09:25.020 ago, like, I couldn't remember how long I've been a reporter.

00:09:28.540 But when you listen to some sections of it, it's just very, very surprising at how Joe

00:09:35.220 Biden was unable to answer certain just basic questions or recall certain basic dates, namely

00:09:42.040 the death of his son, the year Donald Trump was elected, when he left as vice president.

00:09:46.820 And you can just hear in his voice that it's just not the same guy who was a vice president

00:09:54.400 or even to a degree who had first run for president in 2020.

00:09:59.480 By that point in 2023, when he had sat down with the special prosecutors, it was pretty

00:10:03.880 clear that, as the prosecutor had said, he was an old man.

00:10:09.580 And the prosecutor said he was a simple, he would be seen by jurors as a sympathetic old

00:10:15.100 man.

00:10:15.940 And that's part of the reason, with a bad memory, essentially, that he wouldn't be prosecuted.

00:10:20.940 And Democrats at the time just attacked the special prosecutor criminals, you know, attack

00:10:25.500 the press for reporting about him.

00:10:27.180 Now we hear for the first time that Robert Harper accurately described what he heard, because

00:10:34.760 now we can hear it, too.

00:10:36.220 By the way, this interview with her took, correct me if I'm wrong, 8 October of 2023.

00:10:45.640 So it's just really a year after he gets into the hustings with Trump, trying to take on

00:10:54.600 Trump, I guess, in July and then dropping out.

00:10:57.480 What stunned me is that Robert Herr, if you just step back for a second, Robert Herr sounds

00:11:03.720 like a resident or an intern or a young doctor at a facility for older folks really guiding

00:11:13.680 somebody through.

00:11:14.720 I mean, this is not what you consider a prosecutorial deposition.

00:11:18.740 He's not coming on hard.

00:11:20.100 He's almost trying to guide.

00:11:22.840 And I'm not saying he's being unprofessional, but he's being quite gentle on what obviously

00:11:26.720 is a frail old man in front of him.

00:11:28.860 Is that not the way you perceive it?

00:11:30.680 Well, there's two prosecutors who appear in this tape, or who you can hear.

00:11:36.880 The one initially who is asking him just sort of the basic foundation questions of the documentation,

00:11:44.820 which prompted Biden's response about Beau and all of those memory lapses.

00:11:50.640 That was Robert Herr.

00:11:51.680 And the second prosecutor is a guy named Mark Crickbaum.

00:11:56.340 And yes, both of them were very friendly, very gentle.

00:12:02.160 Even Crickbaum, he's the guy who sort of catches Biden, so to speak, in these two sort of inconsistencies.

00:12:11.620 Biden at one point says, like, I don't know why I kept it all this stuff.

00:12:16.740 And then Crickbaum's like, well, you know, you talked about this with Bob Woodward and

00:12:21.880 these other journalists.

00:12:23.080 Do you think you might have kept it for posterity's sake?

00:12:25.680 And the reason Crickbaum is asking that is to lay the foundation for the fact that Biden

00:12:29.520 knew he had classified documents and decided to keep them.

00:12:34.480 And that was an intent crime, so to speak, or it could be an intent crime.

00:12:38.380 And then you hear Biden's lawyer, Bob Bauer, kind of quickly jump in at a certain point.

00:12:45.460 We document this in our story at Axios.

00:12:48.600 And sort of get a little testy.

00:12:50.880 And like, hey, look, the president has answered what he's answered.

00:12:53.820 Don't ask him anymore.

00:12:55.540 Later on, Crickbaum, in a very, again, gentle fashion, points out, hey, we have these tapes

00:13:01.220 of you talking to your ghostwriter for your book, Promise Me Dad.

00:13:05.760 And in that recording made by your ghostwriter review, you said, I found all the classified

00:13:11.500 stuff downstairs.

00:13:12.800 Like, what gives?

00:13:13.880 Who would like to know more about it?

00:13:15.860 Biden, now we can't see it.

00:13:17.240 It's just audio, essentially turns to his lawyer.

00:13:19.980 He audially turns to his lawyer and says, well, you know, I'm kind of not, he doesn't quite

00:13:26.720 say I'm not supposed to answer that.

00:13:28.360 But he gives a very lawyerly response, and his lawyer backs him up.

00:13:31.900 But in both of those cases, Robert Herr, who is just trying to establish this basic foundation

00:13:37.580 of where are your desks?

00:13:40.240 Where are your file cabinets?

00:13:41.940 How do the file cabinets and desks wind up in your various offices and homes?

00:13:46.420 And how do these classified documents wind up in those pieces of furniture?

00:13:51.400 He just had a very difficult time doing it.

00:13:53.600 In both cases, however, these guys are very friendly.

00:13:57.740 They're very respectful.

00:13:59.480 They understand they're interviewing the president.

00:14:01.680 The president's lawyer, Bob Bauer, calls the special prosecutor, Rob, or Robert, doesn't

00:14:07.560 call him Mr. Herr, and he calls Mark Kreckbaum, the other prosecutor, Mark.

00:14:13.140 So it's very familiar and very friendly, to be honest.

00:14:16.500 That's one of the things that makes it surprising to see Democrats afterwards say that they're

00:14:20.880 politically motivated.

00:14:21.660 But it just wasn't the case.

00:14:24.500 Mark, can you hang on one second?

00:14:25.880 We'll take a short commercial break.

00:14:27.080 Mark Caputo, a reporter from 1996, at least 1996.

00:14:32.460 We've been doing this a couple, three years.

00:14:33.660 At Axios, one of the main folks over there.

00:14:36.860 A blockbuster news story that is the dominant news story this morning throughout the world.

00:14:43.160 Her interview with Joe Biden from 8 October of 2023.

00:14:47.940 Short commercial break.

00:14:48.980 We're also going to go to the Vatican with Ben Harnwell shortly.

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00:16:19.020 Okay, we're with Mark Caputo of Axios, the Jim Vanderhay, Mike Allen site

00:16:27.260 that is kind of the conventional, the Washington Consensus news site here

00:16:31.520 that kind of drives the conversation, the narrative every day.

00:16:37.180 Caputo, you are one of the most respected guys in town,

00:16:40.040 being as close to even-handed as the mainstream media can get.

00:16:43.360 But I think people are saying, how did Mark Caputo and Axios end up with a tape

00:16:51.780 that, I don't know, may evolve into a scandal the scale of Watergate, sir?

00:16:59.080 I would say two reasons.

00:17:01.200 One is the Wayne Gretzky rule.

00:17:03.660 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

00:17:06.460 And we asked.

00:17:07.760 We just took the shot.

00:17:09.040 And then secondly, my co-author on this, Alex Thompson, has co-authored a book

00:17:14.020 that talks about the cover-up from the Biden operation of his age.

00:17:19.180 And combined with sort of both of our reputations

00:17:22.460 and the fact that we had said early on,

00:17:25.880 I started asking for this on January 22nd of the new administration.

00:17:30.280 No one had really been paying attention to it.

00:17:32.720 They said, yeah, sure.

00:17:35.260 Understand that when we asked for these tapes,

00:17:37.340 like, no one at the Department of Justice knew where they were.

00:17:40.720 They had to go track them down.

00:17:42.880 It prompted an actual search to just locate these things

00:17:46.940 and figure out if the tape matches the transcript

00:17:50.280 and then how to release it.

00:17:51.720 And the rest is history.

00:17:54.140 Hold on. Hang on.

00:17:54.980 Hold on. Stop. Stop. 0.93

00:17:56.580 You're telling me in the landing team,

00:18:00.780 in the beachhead team they're supposed to do,

00:18:02.980 in the transition they're supposed to do the change of command,

00:18:05.780 that this was not like in, like, the top two or three things

00:18:09.920 on the checklist that they said, okay, her tapes over here,

00:18:12.500 let's storm, that the beachhead and landing teams

00:18:15.160 didn't have those readily available?

00:18:17.600 I can't speak to that,

00:18:19.560 but I can tell you that the people I spoke to

00:18:22.000 at the Department of Justice at the White House,

00:18:24.260 including those at some of the most senior levels,

00:18:27.320 had no idea where these things were.

00:18:29.620 Some of them had been like, oh, yeah.

00:18:32.760 Yeah, sure.

00:18:33.620 We'll get them to you.

00:18:35.380 We just need to find them.

00:18:37.260 And this was, like, January 22nd was the first day I asked.

00:18:40.120 I called back a week later.

00:18:41.220 They're, like, still looking.

00:18:42.640 So they had to track them down.

00:18:44.540 I have a feeling I was led at one point to believe

00:18:47.600 that they weren't even at DOJ.

00:18:49.940 Now, I can't confirm that.

00:18:51.340 I was unable to confirm it.

00:18:52.900 But it just gives you an idea of this sort of mad dash

00:18:56.040 that they went through sort of looking through file cabinets

00:18:59.120 or picking up the phone, calling people like,

00:19:01.060 hey, who's got the tape?

00:19:02.100 Well, eventually they got the tape

00:19:03.460 and eventually it came to us.

00:19:06.940 Caputo, when's the first time that you and Alex

00:19:09.060 actually had a chance to listen to,

00:19:10.900 when's the first time that you had a chance

00:19:12.540 to listen to these tapes?

00:19:17.620 Tuesday, I think.

00:19:19.340 I'm losing track of days here.

00:19:22.300 Yeah, Tuesday is when we started listening to them.

00:19:24.440 And what's—these interviews took place over two days,

00:19:30.240 October 8th and October 9th of 2023.

00:19:33.660 The first day is where Biden just really doesn't sound with it.

00:19:39.740 Now, that's the day after October 7th.

00:19:42.280 I would imagine at a certain point some people will say,

00:19:45.500 well, yeah, he was tired because he was up all night

00:19:48.040 dealing with the crisis that unfolded in Israel

00:19:51.140 when Hamas launched his terrorist attack.

00:19:53.500 October 9th, he's much more with it and much cleaner.

00:19:56.960 So there's like a good day Biden and a bad day Biden.

00:20:00.040 The bad day Biden was day one.

00:20:01.920 And I got to tell you, like, that's just painful listening.

00:20:05.460 You had played that first clip at the top of the show

00:20:07.700 where he is kind of fumbling around in the recesses of his mind

00:20:12.540 to find these words and figure out these dates.

00:20:16.380 And he's getting an assist from his lawyers

00:20:18.420 who sort of take on the role of memory caretaker for him.

00:20:23.020 And one of the things that struck me when I listened to it more closely,

00:20:27.420 and we wrote about this in Axios,

00:20:29.440 is that this takes place in the White House map room.

00:20:31.920 And there's a giant grandfather clock.

00:20:34.260 And you can hear it ticking in the background.

00:20:37.600 And the ticking is this sort of metronomic reminder of the passage of time.

00:20:43.940 And it almost has a sort of literary device.

00:20:46.600 It's something like Edgar Allan Poe or something,

00:20:49.480 where you can just hear this tick-tock,

00:20:52.220 this relentless ticking and talking of time

00:20:55.200 as Joe Biden is kind of mumbling and muttering

00:20:59.960 through some of these uncomfortable silences.

00:21:02.420 It's difficult to listen to.

00:21:05.480 In the literal sense, it's pathetic.

00:21:11.220 Did, as you listen to it,

00:21:13.140 given you've covered this for a couple of years

00:21:16.380 and you were the first guy to really,

00:21:18.000 hey, I want these tapes,

00:21:19.200 go to the White House and just say,

00:21:20.800 hey, put me to the top of the list.

00:21:22.120 I want these to initiate this.

00:21:24.320 As you were listening to them,

00:21:27.220 did you realize, did you think,

00:21:29.260 hey, I got the goods here.

00:21:30.380 This is kind of blowing me away.

00:21:32.420 I was wondering how to write about a guy,

00:21:37.680 how do you write about uncomfortable silences, right?

00:21:41.380 I was thinking about it in a very process-oriented way.

00:21:46.640 But in listening to it,

00:21:49.480 it just reminded me of how difficult it was

00:21:52.760 to cover Biden back in 2020.

00:21:55.640 Part of the reason that we had gotten these tapes,

00:21:59.980 I said that both Alex Thompson and I

00:22:02.780 have our reputations for calling it as it is,

00:22:06.460 was that I wrote one of the first stories

00:22:08.340 in the mainstream media

00:22:09.660 with a prior publication that I worked at.

00:22:12.780 In 2019, right after Joe Biden announced,

00:22:17.140 we did a story when I worked at Politico

00:22:19.100 about whether he was too old.

00:22:22.060 It was pretty clear then that he was having age problems.

00:22:26.580 But having covered him then in that campaign,

00:22:30.520 and then listening to it now,

00:22:32.700 I was just sort of blown away

00:22:34.300 that he sounded so bad on day one.

00:22:40.860 And then I was blown away

00:22:42.060 that he didn't sound so bad on day two.

00:22:45.200 But this is something that you see

00:22:47.320 if you have,

00:22:49.000 and you're lucky enough to have,

00:22:50.720 aging parents,

00:22:52.080 or have had aging grandparents.

00:22:53.980 They have good days.

00:22:56.080 You're like,

00:22:56.820 hey,

00:22:57.360 they're back.

00:22:59.480 And they have bad days.

00:23:01.300 You're like,

00:23:01.760 oh man,

00:23:02.420 this is not good.

00:23:03.760 And you hear both of those on these tapes.

00:23:08.380 What do you think as a reporter,

00:23:10.640 as the story unfolds,

00:23:12.760 that

00:23:13.220 this is going to

00:23:15.980 either lead to investigations,

00:23:18.680 or at least inquiries from the media

00:23:20.240 and others,

00:23:21.100 about the Praetorian Guard

00:23:22.540 around

00:23:23.220 Biden.

00:23:25.020 Because when you hear the bad day,

00:23:27.980 you're sitting there thinking

00:23:29.220 it's the day after.

00:23:31.200 The bad day is the day after

00:23:33.120 one of the most

00:23:34.800 significant military events,

00:23:38.340 not terrorists,

00:23:39.140 military events

00:23:39.980 in the history of the modern Middle East.

00:23:43.240 And you're listening to the commander-in-chief

00:23:45.480 of the armed forces of the United States,

00:23:48.720 sir.

00:23:50.240 Yeah,

00:23:52.500 I mean,

00:23:52.920 that goes through your mind

00:23:53.760 when you listen to it.

00:23:54.600 I don't know

00:23:55.500 how much

00:23:56.560 this is going to lead

00:23:58.620 to investigations,

00:24:00.200 but

00:24:00.600 this is,

00:24:02.040 I'm going to shamelessly plug

00:24:03.720 Alec Thompson

00:24:04.560 and Jake Chaper's book,

00:24:06.420 Original Sin.

00:24:07.320 This is something that they document

00:24:08.720 pretty clearly in there.

00:24:10.580 What you are also seeing,

00:24:12.220 because we're in a very fluid,

00:24:14.160 dynamic political environment

00:24:15.500 with social media,

00:24:16.740 is there is a Democratic

00:24:18.360 backlash or jujitsu

00:24:21.420 that's occurring,

00:24:22.580 where people are saying,

00:24:23.620 okay, yeah, sure,

00:24:24.340 Joe Biden was bad,

00:24:25.240 but boy, listen to Donald Trump.

00:24:27.120 So you're going to hear more

00:24:29.340 about sort of the conflict

00:24:30.480 between these two men

00:24:31.980 in that respect,

00:24:33.940 or in that regard,

00:24:35.380 play out.

00:24:35.940 But it does clearly call

00:24:38.320 into question

00:24:39.280 the degree to which

00:24:41.540 Joe Biden

00:24:42.500 was bubble-wrapped

00:24:43.920 by his administration

00:24:46.320 and his handlers,

00:24:47.380 because it is clear

00:24:48.800 when you listen

00:24:50.080 to these tapes

00:24:50.820 that the President

00:24:51.880 of the United States

00:24:52.780 did have handlers.

00:24:55.500 He did have people

00:24:56.800 who helped him

00:24:58.020 through sort of basic facts

00:25:00.420 when he was speaking

00:25:01.440 in candid environments.

00:25:03.640 And learning more

00:25:04.980 about those

00:25:05.940 would certainly fulfill

00:25:07.880 or fill out

00:25:08.660 the historic record

00:25:09.600 or the historical record.

00:25:11.920 Where do you go?

00:25:12.960 I know you've got to bounce.

00:25:14.300 We've got a couple of minutes.

00:25:15.580 Where does Caputo

00:25:17.020 take this story?

00:25:18.360 You've been known

00:25:19.400 as being a pretty

00:25:20.100 dogged reporter.

00:25:21.480 Alex clearly has written

00:25:22.400 this blockbuster book

00:25:23.440 with Tapper.

00:25:24.400 That'll have to stand,

00:25:25.720 you know,

00:25:26.180 obviously on its merits.

00:25:29.000 But where do you go

00:25:29.840 with the story?

00:25:31.420 Well, I would have to say

00:25:32.140 stay tuned.

00:25:33.120 I am both

00:25:34.700 a full-time reporter

00:25:36.620 and I am being interviewed

00:25:38.920 right now

00:25:39.560 from a rental home

00:25:40.820 that I'm trying to fix up.

00:25:42.200 That's why I kind of

00:25:43.360 look terrible.

00:25:44.700 And so I haven't given

00:25:46.580 it enough thought.

00:25:47.860 I will answer that

00:25:49.160 as candidly

00:25:50.200 and honestly as possible.

00:25:51.520 This is why I'll never

00:25:52.400 run for elected office

00:25:54.080 and why I'll never

00:25:55.000 be elected if I did.

00:25:57.260 Caputo, you know,

00:25:58.100 I don't want to upset you

00:25:59.380 but you kind of look

00:26:00.180 the same that I've

00:26:01.160 gotten to know you

00:26:01.880 so I don't know.

00:26:02.620 I wouldn't blame it

00:26:03.240 on the new house, okay?

00:26:05.560 Well, I don't even have

00:26:06.380 a wireless connection here

00:26:07.580 so it's been all choppy.

00:26:08.800 I apologize.

00:26:09.600 Thanks.

00:26:09.960 I got to put in

00:26:10.420 an air conditioner now

00:26:11.220 and a wall unit.

00:26:12.100 I'm going to get going.

00:26:13.800 Mark, where do people

00:26:14.660 go on social media

00:26:15.640 over at Axios

00:26:16.640 to follow this?

00:26:18.920 Mark with a C

00:26:19.740 at Mark A. Caputo.

00:26:21.800 I'm on Twitter

00:26:22.560 or X

00:26:23.440 or whatever you call it

00:26:24.140 and obviously Axios.com

00:26:25.540 I have an author page

00:26:26.340 as well.

00:26:28.740 Mark Caputo,

00:26:29.100 thank you very much

00:26:29.740 for taking time away

00:26:30.560 on a Saturday

00:26:31.160 to talk with us

00:26:32.620 here in the war room.

00:26:33.220 I appreciate you.

00:26:34.820 I appreciate you.

00:26:35.740 Thanks, Steve.

00:26:36.200 Bye.

00:26:37.420 Thank you.

00:26:39.660 Wow.

00:26:41.200 How about the answer

00:26:42.580 to the first question?

00:26:43.840 How did you get

00:26:44.700 this Black Press tape?

00:26:45.620 I asked.

00:26:46.420 This is a lesson

00:26:48.260 for everybody out there

00:26:49.420 and particularly

00:26:50.160 young people.

00:26:51.780 Initiate action.

00:26:53.580 You never know

00:26:54.280 how it's going to play out.

00:26:55.300 Just initiate action.

00:26:57.520 The first one to ask

00:26:58.700 and to be persistent

00:27:00.280 and dogged about it.

00:27:02.400 The other kind of shocker

00:27:03.660 that they had to go

00:27:06.860 track it down.

00:27:08.780 Just saying.

00:27:09.640 Okay, we're going

00:27:10.220 to take a short break.

00:27:11.080 We've got Harnwell

00:27:11.760 at the Vatican.

00:27:12.860 My wingman this morning

00:27:14.500 is Dave Bratt.

00:27:16.140 I'm going to get Dave

00:27:16.820 in here for his thoughts

00:27:17.780 about this blockbuster story.

00:27:19.340 Chip Roy is going

00:27:21.680 to join us later

00:27:22.520 about the budget.

00:27:23.860 We've got a special

00:27:24.760 I think

00:27:26.200 I don't want to say

00:27:26.980 it's Lazarus

00:27:27.920 but we've got

00:27:30.020 a special guest.

00:27:31.800 We've got a very

00:27:32.440 special guest

00:27:33.420 that we're going

00:27:35.020 to have some

00:27:35.900 I don't know

00:27:37.020 fun with

00:27:37.540 but some interesting

00:27:38.700 conversation

00:27:39.740 as we bring you

00:27:40.900 back on the main stage

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00:29:24.080 Stephen K. Bannon

00:29:25.440 so I'm gobsmacked

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00:29:29.240 in a second 0.78

00:29:29.640 Brad's going to join me

00:29:30.700 and if you get a chance

00:29:33.600 you got to listen

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00:29:35.160 it'll be a good Saturday

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00:29:37.880 you'll be kind of stunned

00:29:39.020 particularly the bad day

00:29:40.200 and always keep in mind

00:29:41.320 the guy's commander

00:29:42.040 in chief of the armed forces

00:29:43.120 put the hand

00:29:44.300 on the nuclear code

00:29:45.300 Tej

00:29:46.560 now more than ever

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00:29:51.020 what do you got

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00:30:34.940 Steve Bain

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00:32:32.360 as we got to bounce

00:32:33.720 tajan you got to go

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00:32:35.160 at your lodge

00:32:36.580 tell those guys

00:32:38.220 tell those guys

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00:32:40.580 throw away

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00:32:43.360 thank you brother

00:32:44.480 the Tej Gill

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00:32:54.520 extraordinaire

00:32:55.300 Dave Bratt

00:32:56.260 here's what's

00:32:57.960 stunning to me

00:32:58.720 what's stunning

00:33:01.640 the persistency

00:33:02.900 in Caputo

00:33:03.500 to get

00:33:04.100 the story

00:33:05.020 and to get

00:33:05.440 the tapes

00:33:06.000 is just

00:33:07.020 good old

00:33:07.580 American grit

00:33:08.440 and they just

00:33:09.000 put it out there

00:33:09.700 and you can listen

00:33:10.420 to it

00:33:10.820 and everybody

00:33:11.560 should listen

00:33:12.100 to it

00:33:12.500 what has stunned

00:33:14.080 me

00:33:14.480 is

00:33:15.720 why

00:33:16.920 have we not

00:33:17.640 in panel

00:33:18.020 why is there

00:33:18.760 not a massive

00:33:19.400 investigation

00:33:19.980 this was controlled

00:33:21.060 by the

00:33:21.440 Department of Justice

00:33:22.580 the Department of Justice

00:33:24.380 and President Trump's

00:33:26.220 administration

00:33:26.960 why is there

00:33:29.100 already not a massive

00:33:29.960 investigation

00:33:30.620 that's four or five

00:33:31.520 months into the

00:33:32.540 or at least four months

00:33:34.260 into

00:33:35.320 into existence

00:33:36.600 sir

00:33:37.000 well I'm hoping

00:33:40.280 that there's a good

00:33:40.980 answer

00:33:41.500 with

00:33:42.700 Bondi

00:33:43.760 and cash

00:33:44.440 government

00:33:45.180 gangsters

00:33:46.040 I'm hoping

00:33:46.920 they have

00:33:47.380 them all

00:33:47.740 lined up

00:33:48.520 right

00:33:48.740 I mean

00:33:49.000 now we've

00:33:49.520 got

00:33:49.800 Comey 0.99

00:33:51.360 with just

00:33:52.200 grotesque

00:33:53.100 morally

00:33:54.360 reprehensible

00:33:55.800 actions

00:33:56.560 and then you got

00:33:58.160 Brennan

00:33:58.760 you got the

00:33:59.400 CIA

00:33:59.780 all these

00:34:00.820 folks

00:34:01.260 are just

00:34:01.780 lined up

00:34:02.460 and then the

00:34:02.860 entire

00:34:03.240 Justice

00:34:03.700 Department

00:34:04.360 the criminality

00:34:06.020 that ran

00:34:06.580 across the

00:34:07.120 51

00:34:07.740 intelligence

00:34:08.440 officers

00:34:09.020 and I

00:34:10.520 mean

00:34:10.780 I'm just

00:34:11.200 shocked

00:34:11.460 I pay

00:34:12.040 too much

00:34:12.440 attention

00:34:12.840 to the

00:34:13.460 media

00:34:13.920 side

00:34:14.340 but you

00:34:14.740 put your

00:34:15.520 finger

00:34:15.800 on it

00:34:16.200 right

00:34:16.420 and the

00:34:16.940 the left

00:34:18.120 won't even

00:34:18.620 cover it

00:34:19.020 right

00:34:19.140 they're going

00:34:19.400 to draw

00:34:19.780 you know

00:34:20.200 comparisons

00:34:20.700 with Trump

00:34:21.300 or whatever

00:34:21.740 but why

00:34:22.160 was there

00:34:22.600 not a

00:34:23.720 move

00:34:24.160 why was

00:34:24.740 there not

00:34:25.080 but hang

00:34:25.500 why was

00:34:25.980 there not

00:34:26.240 a move

00:34:26.580 of Kamala

00:34:27.180 Harris

00:34:27.720 General

00:34:28.980 Austin

00:34:29.540 the people

00:34:30.600 that saw

00:34:30.920 him every

00:34:31.220 day

00:34:31.380 on the

00:34:31.620 25th

00:34:32.080 amendment

00:34:32.320 why

00:34:32.740 would

00:34:32.960 this

00:34:33.200 this is

00:34:33.700 about

00:34:34.060 the

00:34:34.280 security

00:34:34.720 not just

00:34:35.280 the United

00:34:35.620 States

00:34:35.900 of America

00:34:36.200 this is

00:34:36.740 about

00:34:36.860 the

00:34:37.060 security

00:34:37.380 of the

00:34:38.720 of the

00:34:39.440 world

00:34:39.700 who's

00:34:40.480 to say

00:34:41.160 that

00:34:42.860 infiltration

00:34:44.440 or the

00:34:44.960 Muslim

00:34:45.240 Brotherhood

00:34:45.800 or whatever

00:34:46.380 knew about

00:34:47.720 how he's

00:34:48.140 impaired

00:34:48.560 how impaired

00:34:49.380 he was

00:34:50.060 to

00:34:51.300 to

00:34:51.980 initiate

00:34:52.640 to initiate

00:34:53.920 October 7th

00:34:54.820 in Gaza

00:34:55.220 who's to

00:34:55.820 say

00:34:56.260 that they

00:34:57.600 knew how

00:34:58.040 impaired he

00:34:58.560 was and

00:34:59.100 how he

00:34:59.480 could make

00:34:59.900 decisions

00:35:00.520 and fumbled

00:35:01.220 everything

00:35:01.680 that this

00:35:02.880 part drove

00:35:03.520 the Ukraine

00:35:04.040 invasion

00:35:04.560 I don't

00:35:05.900 know

00:35:06.240 but what

00:35:07.300 I do

00:35:07.660 know is

00:35:08.940 that it

00:35:09.520 is unacceptable

00:35:10.500 that is

00:35:11.000 not you

00:35:11.480 listen to

00:35:11.960 those tapes

00:35:12.660 in her

00:35:13.820 he's like

00:35:15.460 if you saw

00:35:17.560 one flew over

00:35:18.340 the cuckoo's

00:35:18.920 nest he's like

00:35:19.540 one of the

00:35:19.920 assistants there

00:35:20.660 helping those

00:35:21.240 people through

00:35:22.160 through their

00:35:22.760 day

00:35:23.200 if you've

00:35:24.460 ever had

00:35:25.040 a relative

00:35:25.800 in one of

00:35:26.420 these homes

00:35:27.040 that you

00:35:28.160 go and

00:35:28.680 these very

00:35:29.380 courageous

00:35:29.940 and generous

00:35:30.820 people who

00:35:31.820 are the

00:35:32.080 assistants or

00:35:32.800 the residents

00:35:33.300 or the young

00:35:33.860 doctors or

00:35:34.500 the nurses

00:35:34.960 they're helping

00:35:36.160 them through

00:35:36.740 the day

00:35:37.640 that's what

00:35:38.160 her was so

00:35:38.940 gentle and

00:35:39.520 the other

00:35:39.980 lawyer were

00:35:40.880 so gentle

00:35:41.580 it was like

00:35:42.520 talking to

00:35:43.480 a dementia

00:35:44.980 a patient

00:35:45.500 that's got

00:35:45.880 the beginnings

00:35:46.360 of dementia

00:35:46.980 they're guiding

00:35:48.680 him through

00:35:49.300 that's on the

00:35:50.100 tape you can't

00:35:50.800 deny that

00:35:51.360 and all the

00:35:51.780 lies and

00:35:52.160 misrepresentation

00:35:52.960 this is a

00:35:53.500 scandal the

00:35:54.080 dwarfs were 0.99

00:35:54.580 to gate

00:35:54.940 this is a

00:35:56.420 commander

00:35:56.640 we've had

00:35:58.040 the beginning

00:35:58.640 of the

00:35:59.040 kinetic part

00:35:59.820 of the

00:36:00.140 third world

00:36:00.500 there's no

00:36:00.980 coincidences

00:36:01.780 folks

00:36:02.420 there's no

00:36:03.060 coincidences

00:36:03.780 and no

00:36:04.840 conspiracy

00:36:05.400 but you

00:36:07.260 can't tell

00:36:07.960 me

00:36:08.400 that our

00:36:09.420 enemies

00:36:09.960 didn't know

00:36:11.780 they had a

00:36:12.440 guy that was

00:36:12.960 not up to

00:36:13.380 the task

00:36:13.900 in the inner

00:36:14.460 circle at

00:36:15.240 least knew it

00:36:16.000 and knew it

00:36:16.440 every day

00:36:17.000 he's

00:36:18.220 commander

00:36:18.740 in chief

00:36:19.120 this is the

00:36:19.560 big fight

00:36:20.040 in the

00:36:20.340 supreme court

00:36:20.900 from last

00:36:21.440 night

00:36:21.800 the guy

00:36:23.460 that office

00:36:24.220 is the

00:36:24.600 commander

00:36:24.940 in chief

00:36:25.340 they're trying

00:36:25.780 to thwart

00:36:26.420 they're trying

00:36:27.460 to thwart

00:36:28.140 trump

00:36:29.200 and they

00:36:30.180 covered up

00:36:31.080 and protected

00:36:31.620 biden

00:36:32.120 he's commander

00:36:33.720 in chief

00:36:34.200 where's the

00:36:34.740 25th amendment

00:36:35.540 where's kamala

00:36:36.240 harris

00:36:36.540 we have to

00:36:37.260 have a formal

00:36:37.840 inquiry in this

00:36:38.620 you have to

00:36:38.960 adjudicate this

00:36:39.960 this can never

00:36:40.960 be allowed to

00:36:41.660 happen again

00:36:42.120 people have to

00:36:42.840 be held

00:36:43.200 accountable

00:36:43.700 i would argue

00:36:45.440 hey we

00:36:46.060 started the

00:36:46.640 kinetic part

00:36:47.240 of the third

00:36:47.780 world war

00:36:48.280 this is greater

00:36:48.980 than between

00:36:49.620 invasion of

00:36:50.680 poland in

00:36:51.140 39 and the

00:36:52.080 germans going 1.00

00:36:53.100 into russia

00:36:53.640 and operation

00:36:54.680 barbarossa

00:36:55.420 in 41

00:36:56.620 we've killed

00:36:58.060 four or five

00:36:59.000 times more

00:36:59.780 people than

00:37:00.520 those two

00:37:00.980 years of the

00:37:01.560 beginning of

00:37:01.980 world war ii

00:37:02.720 and he was

00:37:04.220 on watch

00:37:04.900 and who

00:37:06.120 protected him

00:37:06.980 and i don't

00:37:08.360 want to hear

00:37:08.700 the happy talk

00:37:09.420 media oh

00:37:09.960 just screw

00:37:10.620 you trump

00:37:11.380 can stand up

00:37:12.080 there all the

00:37:12.420 time

00:37:12.800 because he's

00:37:14.880 come out and

00:37:15.260 trolling you

00:37:15.700 guys a third

00:37:16.460 of the time

00:37:16.980 that's his

00:37:17.400 trump just

00:37:17.920 went to the

00:37:18.480 middle east

00:37:18.980 and bench

00:37:19.440 pressed everybody

00:37:20.320 don't give me

00:37:21.160 oh this is no

00:37:22.120 equivalent here

00:37:22.820 and you're not

00:37:23.140 going to get

00:37:23.460 away with the

00:37:23.840 crowd i don't

00:37:24.140 care about

00:37:24.480 your crappy

00:37:25.040 democrat

00:37:25.760 this is the

00:37:27.000 freaking problem

00:37:27.740 the freaking

00:37:29.000 problem was

00:37:29.680 we've had these

00:37:30.400 tapes in the

00:37:31.080 justice department

00:37:31.760 for five months

00:37:32.420 and what the

00:37:32.900 frick is going

00:37:33.600 on

00:37:33.980 why is there

00:37:36.200 not a formal

00:37:36.880 investigation i

00:37:37.560 don't hear

00:37:37.800 comar comar's

00:37:38.860 up yammering

00:37:40.000 again you think

00:37:40.740 we're going to

00:37:41.060 hand this over to

00:37:41.660 comar what

00:37:42.220 he do last

00:37:42.800 time he wasted

00:37:43.560 a couple of

00:37:44.120 years and then

00:37:44.580 wrote a book

00:37:45.240 i don't want

00:37:47.040 another comar

00:37:48.040 investigation and

00:37:48.900 then write another

00:37:49.480 book i want

00:37:50.300 action we need to

00:37:51.760 do this for this

00:37:52.700 republic this can

00:37:53.680 never be allowed

00:37:54.420 to happen again

00:37:55.080 and the way you

00:37:55.680 stop it have

00:37:56.300 and again you

00:37:57.360 hold the people

00:37:58.760 that protected him

00:38:00.160 and hid this

00:38:00.840 information as

00:38:01.720 commander-in-chief

00:38:02.940 commander-in-chief

00:38:05.040 of the armed

00:38:05.740 forces with a

00:38:07.260 raging war going

00:38:08.280 on greater than

00:38:09.540 the kinetic part of

00:38:10.460 the first couple

00:38:10.960 of years of

00:38:11.380 world war ii

00:38:12.000 dave bratt

00:38:12.680 yeah and uh

00:38:15.360 more than

00:38:15.960 commander-in-chief

00:38:16.820 ceo all the

00:38:18.320 secretaries look

00:38:19.220 what trump's doing

00:38:19.940 across all the

00:38:20.920 secretaries now and

00:38:22.220 the chief magistrate

00:38:23.400 compromised it

00:38:24.820 shows you the

00:38:25.440 virtue of the

00:38:26.300 friends set up

00:38:27.080 there too he

00:38:27.720 doesn't have any

00:38:28.500 friends that stick

00:38:29.400 up for him as a

00:38:30.160 human being his

00:38:31.500 wife jill was in

00:38:32.880 on this hang

00:38:33.700 on hang on

00:38:33.880 hang on yo yo

00:38:35.140 you're losing the

00:38:35.780 plot i got it

00:38:37.260 he's chief

00:38:37.760 executive listen

00:38:38.480 he's totally

00:38:39.060 illegitimate look

00:38:39.920 at trump's if we

00:38:40.980 put trump's true

00:38:41.840 social trump's going

00:38:43.060 off on his

00:38:44.660 legitimacy in all

00:38:46.540 the issues that

00:38:47.300 require from his

00:38:48.080 illegitimate because

00:38:49.080 they didn't win

00:38:49.880 2020 you see right

00:38:51.340 now the praetorian

00:38:52.260 guard if you want to

00:38:53.080 see the deep state

00:38:53.820 in action they

00:38:54.860 selected this guy

00:38:56.120 why because he's

00:38:58.000 docile he's an old

00:38:58.860 man he's just

00:38:59.500 gonna you just

00:38:59.940 gotta wander he's

00:39:00.740 just wandering

00:39:01.240 around yeah this

00:39:03.240 proves the point but

00:39:04.720 you've got to now

00:39:05.980 adjudicate it you

00:39:07.800 now have to get a

00:39:08.780 platform that people

00:39:09.580 can see okay we're

00:39:11.840 gonna do this fair

00:39:12.660 we're gonna have all

00:39:13.280 evidence witnesses

00:39:14.320 everything but it's

00:39:15.360 got to be adjudicated

00:39:16.400 it just can't sit

00:39:17.460 there and to know

00:39:18.220 that we're in may

00:39:19.120 and axios breaks it

00:39:20.800 where's the

00:39:21.720 investigation what

00:39:22.980 are you people

00:39:24.620 doing and where

00:39:26.920 are you spending

00:39:28.140 your time because

00:39:30.180 right now i'm not

00:39:32.520 feeling it i'm hearing

00:39:33.440 all kind of go over

00:39:34.280 doing this that's

00:39:35.100 great but somebody's

00:39:36.280 got it then when

00:39:37.000 it comes out with

00:39:37.760 this then it's

00:39:40.260 coming out and

00:39:40.740 saying yeah we've

00:39:41.420 been an investigation

00:39:42.120 we've had a grand

00:39:43.500 jury for the last

00:39:44.380 four months we're

00:39:44.960 calling witnesses in

00:39:46.140 uh we're doing a

00:39:47.540 formal investigation

00:39:48.500 the fbi is all over

00:39:49.720 this we're in we're

00:39:50.700 doing real depositions

00:39:51.880 not her not guiding

00:39:53.520 somebody through do

00:39:54.320 you understand if

00:39:54.820 they had a real

00:39:55.400 prosecutor on this

00:39:56.640 guy he had a real

00:39:58.100 prosecutor he would

00:39:58.920 have cracked he'd

00:40:00.100 have been it'd have

00:40:00.740 been all over the

00:40:01.540 floor been blood

00:40:02.380 everywhere if he

00:40:03.900 had a hey let him

00:40:05.540 have what i had with

00:40:06.840 molar for those i

00:40:08.860 don't know 30 hours

00:40:10.140 let him go up to

00:40:11.640 shifty shift in

00:40:12.600 swalwell in the house

00:40:13.700 intel right let him

00:40:15.520 have a real deposition

00:40:16.700 under oath with a real

00:40:20.060 prosecutor up in your

00:40:21.840 grill not playing

00:40:22.800 patty cake and treating

00:40:23.860 you like an old man you 0.99

00:40:24.960 want a cookie here's a

00:40:26.140 cookie how about some

00:40:26.940 milk right look like it

00:40:29.160 looked like an assistant

00:40:30.060 at a firm care people

00:40:33.740 better get up on this

00:40:35.340 baby because this is

00:40:36.980 the thing itself you

00:40:37.900 want to see the deep

00:40:38.480 state you don't think

00:40:39.360 they selected this

00:40:40.200 clown what did caputo

00:40:41.100 said the reason i

00:40:42.660 might have gotten

00:40:43.160 this in 2019 i wrote

00:40:45.100 an article how he was

00:40:46.600 having senior moments

00:40:47.700 at the time that's why

00:40:49.520 they picked him he was

00:40:51.900 the least offensive and

00:40:53.180 he was an old man they

00:40:54.240 could manage so let's

00:40:55.880 get the managers let's

00:40:57.300 drill down on the whole

00:40:58.620 thing because trust me

00:40:59.620 like order gate boom

00:41:01.040 every day you're going

00:41:02.840 to have another

00:41:03.300 revelation it's time to

00:41:06.240 get we're either real

00:41:07.420 about this or not we

00:41:08.660 either we're either

00:41:09.620 going to defend this is

00:41:10.420 not about trump this is

00:41:12.140 not about maga this is

00:41:14.260 not about our movement

00:41:15.700 this is not even about

00:41:17.360 the white house this is

00:41:18.460 about this republic we

00:41:19.800 can never allow this to

00:41:21.220 happen again why did

00:41:22.660 trump say he came back

00:41:23.700 and ran he said that at

00:41:25.740 charlie kirk's at am

00:41:26.620 fest he said i ran

00:41:27.760 because i knew they had

00:41:29.320 started one 2020 and

00:41:30.780 they'd stolen it and he

00:41:33.240 would go against the

00:41:34.340 gates of hell but hell

00:41:35.400 they're going to put him

00:41:36.040 in prison for 300 years he

00:41:37.700 knew that and bankrupt

00:41:38.680 him that was his profile

00:41:40.680 and courage to come back

00:41:41.800 where is our profile and

00:41:42.840 courage about making sure

00:41:45.600 this never happens again in

00:41:46.980 this republic the only way

00:41:48.060 you're going to do it

00:41:48.720 you're going to have some

00:41:49.420 people here that are

00:41:50.600 behind bars and put it in

00:41:52.900 break this is the tool we

00:41:55.240 need to break the deep

00:41:57.280 state but we need the

00:41:59.160 toughness and the focus

00:42:00.980 and the relentlessness to

00:42:03.640 do it this is what's a

00:42:06.180 moment in history you grab

00:42:07.440 it you if you grab it you

00:42:09.180 grab it and you drive it

00:42:10.560 and there'll be so many

00:42:12.000 other revelations that

00:42:12.960 come over about this go

00:42:14.560 back and look at the

00:42:15.140 beginning of watergate it

00:42:16.140 started as a burglar i

00:42:16.960 remember as a kid or as a

00:42:18.540 teenager i think i'm down

00:42:19.540 there at the beach with my

00:42:21.220 family and my dad says

00:42:22.600 you know he's got the

00:42:23.240 paper this is like in

00:42:24.040 july says hey there was

00:42:25.120 something like burglary

00:42:26.040 over at the uh the

00:42:27.580 democratic national

00:42:28.500 committee at some you

00:42:30.440 know apartment complex or

00:42:31.780 hotel called the

00:42:32.480 watergate we're just

00:42:33.180 sitting there like

00:42:33.720 hammerheads oh that's 0.75

00:42:35.020 interesting what's dad

00:42:36.460 talking about right and

00:42:39.120 look what happened there

00:42:39.960 a couple of years later

00:42:40.960 nixon's walking out to

00:42:42.840 grab a helicopter marine

00:42:44.080 one and he's not going on

00:42:45.480 a trip he resigned this is

00:42:49.680 bigger because it'll show

00:42:52.640 you how he was selected

00:42:53.900 it showed you his and

00:42:54.880 don't get me wrong as yes

00:42:56.140 a ceo and chief

00:42:57.200 magistrate the other three

00:42:58.120 things they're huge and

00:42:59.880 many of the actions i'm

00:43:00.720 sure will be derived as

00:43:02.220 illegitimate but the

00:43:04.560 commander-in-chief is where

00:43:05.900 we nail it because he put

00:43:08.260 everybody in jeopardy and

00:43:10.440 they were willing to risk

00:43:11.540 that to do what to stop

00:43:14.300 trump to make sure trump

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00:43:25.320 that isn't getting enough

00:43:26.580 attention the chinese have 0.99

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00:43:30.060 thousands of acres of u.s

00:43:31.640 farmland they're also

00:43:33.460 taking control over critical

00:43:35.020 supply chains things like

00:43:36.520 fertilizer animal feed and

00:43:38.620 farming equipment why it's not

00:43:41.120 clear they're tightening the

00:43:43.060 grip on global food

00:43:44.360 production that is clear

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00:46:32.000 thoughts observations sir well I like

00:46:36.080 your rant and unfortunately the Congress

00:46:39.480 and the Senate's not ranting about

00:46:41.340 anything it's just business as usual it

00:46:43.660 appears across the board and so I hate

00:46:45.380 to say it but this will change this is a

00:46:49.220 huge revelation as you say it'll spiral

00:46:51.420 out of control if you start exploring and

00:46:53.760 expanding and calling people in front of

00:46:55.600 our committees our major committees it'll

00:46:58.780 be information overload with corruption

00:47:00.780 and so I you know I hate to ask but Trump

00:47:03.460 is going to have to do a rant on his own

00:47:05.280 people so they know he wants it they know

00:47:08.520 he wants it but that has to happen as you

00:47:11.620 say when you have the CEO and commander in

00:47:14.920 chief of the United States of America there's

00:47:17.520 no bigger story out of commission the

00:47:19.720 reporter didn't want to go all in you could

00:47:21.640 see him reticent but he said he was

00:47:23.900 bubble wrapped we had to be with him to

00:47:25.680 support him on the basic facts we're

00:47:27.840 talking about the president of the United

00:47:29.960 States here this is this is no joke this is

00:47:33.460 it and when you get that chance right there

00:47:36.800 and it's not political this is for the

00:47:38.960 republic as you said you better do the

00:47:41.700 right thing and then you got these press

00:47:43.800 guys coming in you've got Jake Tapper

00:47:47.220 saying yeah I could have gone after a little

00:47:49.140 bit further and Joe and Mika every morning

00:47:51.940 saying he's at the top of his mental acuity

00:47:54.320 and Tapper always says at the beginning of

00:47:56.940 your show every day we don't have a soul his

00:47:59.180 book is called original sin and he he is the

00:48:02.340 most arrogant arrogance and pride is the

00:48:05.280 original sin and the left needs to be

00:48:07.480 taking a task all of them what did you know

00:48:09.900 when did you know it for a change we had

00:48:12.460 republicans that actually went up against

00:48:14.600 Nixon because there's some people of

00:48:16.760 character left back then and they acted

00:48:19.440 like Cub Scouts not knowing that Nixon

00:48:22.380 was being taken out and so now we know

00:48:24.860 all of it we know everything across the

00:48:26.600 board we hammered this every day Jack

00:48:29.000 but so big candidate hammered it every day 0.95

00:48:30.820 you could tell the guy wasn't up to it we

00:48:33.680 kept we kept ranting where's your 25th

00:48:36.520 amendment why why are you letting this guy

00:48:38.740 and here's who knew it the Russian you

00:48:40.180 don't think the Russians knew this on the

00:48:42.660 evil rolling in there in 22 the whole way

00:48:45.360 you don't think the enemies of Israel in 0.93

00:48:47.800 the United States didn't know this before

00:48:50.660 the Muslim Brotherhood moved in October of

00:48:53.060 listen don't take it from me see what you

00:48:57.000 see listen to it and just listen to it it's

00:48:59.500 an entirety on the 8th of October of 2023 we

00:49:03.760 have a record this is the day after the

00:49:07.980 attack happened that's your commander in

00:49:10.600 chief that's your commander in chief and

00:49:13.560 if he had had a prosecutor you know that

00:49:18.040 that was was getting down on it he would

00:49:23.040 have been ripped apart he'd been all over

00:49:25.020 it'd been he'd been all over the floor

00:49:26.720 they treated him they treated him like

00:49:29.080 they were a hospital they were hospital

00:49:30.400 attendance in a nursing home and Merrick

00:49:34.880 Garland correct me if I'm wrong I don't

00:49:36.420 want to bring up a sore subject but I

00:49:37.960 think I went to prison for four months on

00:49:40.300 a misdemeanor for defying a subpoena that

00:49:43.220 Merrick Garland prosecuted me personally

00:49:45.780 and didn't the Congress come to him about

00:49:48.420 this where's Merrick Garland why is Merrick

00:49:51.200 Garland not going to pay a penalty for

00:49:52.740 this why he's not going to pay a price

00:49:53.980 for this I'm not about vengeance I'm not

00:49:56.380 about come retribution that has nothing to

00:49:59.000 do with it this is about this Republic we

00:50:01.200 cannot allow this to stand everybody

00:50:04.440 associated with this has got to be called

00:50:06.760 in in question under oath we got to get

00:50:09.460 to the bottom of this how he was selected

00:50:11.560 how they bubble wrapped him what else do we

00:50:14.660 don't know they kept it from we need to

00:50:16.820 grill these people and hey if the Justice

00:50:19.380 Department can't do it and the FBI can't

00:50:21.320 do it then get a special prosecutor and

00:50:23.660 let's roll they set up our special

00:50:26.160 prosecutor for this the first time on the

00:50:28.460 classified documents against him there's a

00:50:30.680 bigger there's a much bigger story here and

00:50:32.480 I'm shocked that Merrick Garland listening

00:50:35.360 to this tape didn't he kept saying I'm

00:50:38.000 totally independent you're not independent

00:50:39.540 you're a hack and no offense he should be

00:50:41.980 charged with crimes right now of a

00:50:44.640 conspiracy to conceal this from the

00:50:46.340 American people don't take it from me 1.00

00:50:49.200 listen to the tape and write in your

00:50:51.180 calendar 8 October 2023 less than 24 hours

00:50:56.460 after the attack of the Muslim Brotherhood

00:51:00.300 Namas in Israel and this this is your

00:51:02.680 commander-in-chief this is the guy calling

00:51:04.920 the shots this is the guy making the final

00:51:06.540 you know all the movies are all down in

00:51:08.860 the situation room and you know Joe Biden

00:51:11.400 he's he knows so much and he's so much

00:51:13.760 better than Trump and Trump is so erratic

00:51:15.780 compare this in the heat of battle to

00:51:20.460 Donald Trump in the Middle East this week

00:51:23.500 do you know I kept telling you that one

00:51:26.920 of the reasons they people I used to

00:51:28.580 harpen this all the time that the people

00:51:31.400 throughout the world that the the the elites

00:51:33.940 throughout the world knew he wasn't

00:51:35.400 legitimate they didn't treat him like a

00:51:36.840 legitimate remember when he rides up in

00:51:39.240 the SUV to MBS they give the little fist

00:51:42.740 bump because they're dismissing him they

00:51:45.240 know exactly this he was placed in by the

00:51:47.340 Praetorian Guard if you want to break the

00:51:50.680 Praetorian Guard's hold on this empire

00:51:54.360 which they have the deep state the way you

00:51:58.360 break it is you use this as the instrument

00:52:00.460 you use this as the instrument and you do a

00:52:03.720 full and deep investigation you make them

00:52:06.360 lawyer up you make them spend all their

00:52:08.280 money right you strip them of all their

00:52:10.520 security clearances in the process you make

00:52:12.420 sure they're so radioactive as you as they 0.58

00:52:14.980 testify that no company will ever retain

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00:52:19.600 put their snout in the trough right you 0.63

00:52:22.760 toxify these people because they need to

00:52:25.720 be toxified they put this country every

00:52:29.600 parent out there that's got a kid in the

00:52:31.360 armed forces that was your commander in

00:52:33.400 chief that's your commander in chief and

00:52:36.980 everybody has said on the debate with Trump

00:52:38.740 oh he just had a bad day no that's every day

00:52:41.860 except you know the next day they juice him

00:52:44.000 up they jack him up on something for a

00:52:46.360 couple hours and Jill pats him on the

00:52:48.860 head

00:52:49.200 okay short commercial break we've got a

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Bannon's War Room - May 17, 2025

Episode 4493： Biden's Admission Could Lead To Criminal Charges; Spending Spirals Out Of Control

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