Bannon's War Room - May 17, 2025


Episode 4493： Biden's Admission Could Lead To Criminal Charges; Spending Spirals Out Of Control


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

162.67082

Word Count

9,015

Sentence Count

320

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Former Vice President Joe Biden tells the story of how he stumbled across a handwritten memo written for President Obama in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and how he kept it with him for years, even after he left office in 2017.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This time we were living in Chambers Road and there were documents related to the Penn-Biden Center or the Biden Center or the cancer from your shot or your book.
00:00:12.400 Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working on?
00:00:21.860 Well, I don't know.
00:00:28.840 This is, what, 2017, 18, that period?
00:00:34.600 Yes, sir.
00:00:36.380 Remember, in this time frame, my son has either been deployed or is dying.
00:00:47.560 And so it was – and by the way, there were still a lot of people.
00:00:58.840 It was a lot of time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, except the president.
00:01:10.120 And I'm not – it's not a mean thing to say, I mean, he just thought that she had a better shot of winning the presidency than I did.
00:01:20.160 And so I hadn't – I hadn't at this point, even though I'm at Penn, I hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run for office again.
00:01:29.920 But if I ran again, I'd be running for president.
00:01:32.120 And so what was happening, though, one month of Bo died, oh God, May 30th – 2015.
00:01:45.240 When in 2015, he had died.
00:01:47.760 When in 2015.
00:01:49.200 I think it was 2015.
00:01:50.740 I'm not sure the month of – I think that was –
00:01:52.580 Yeah.
00:01:53.520 That's right, Mr. President.
00:01:55.120 And what's happened in the meantime is that as – and Trump gets elected in November of 2017?
00:02:12.000 2016.
00:02:12.620 2016.
00:02:13.400 2016.
00:02:14.720 All right.
00:02:15.920 So – why did I have 2017 here?
00:02:21.840 That's when you left office in January of 2017.
00:02:25.280 Yeah, okay.
00:02:29.080 But that's when Trump gets sworn in.
00:02:31.900 Right, right, correct.
00:02:32.940 Okay, yeah.
00:02:34.920 And in 2017, Bo had passed and – this is personal.
00:02:51.840 Was this memo, Mr. President, was this something that you consciously kept after your term as
00:03:01.800 vice president?
00:03:03.220 Is this something that you wanted to hold on to?
00:03:05.620 I don't recall.
00:03:06.780 Did I have this – was this in my possession, this memo?
00:03:09.920 Yes, and to give you some context for this, Mr. President, it was found in the front of
00:03:14.940 this notebook that's on the first page, and the notebook was found in the library at the
00:03:21.260 Lake House in one of the drawers.
00:03:24.520 Your answer is that you don't recall.
00:03:25.980 I don't recall how it got back – I mean, I don't recall how it got back in the book because
00:03:31.880 I sent it to the president.
00:03:33.920 I gave it to the president.
00:03:34.980 And this looks like the original.
00:03:37.180 I don't think it was – maybe it's a copy made it, but I don't think so.
00:03:40.120 It was faxed just to give you some context.
00:03:42.440 Oh, okay.
00:03:43.080 That's why.
00:03:43.740 Yeah.
00:03:44.600 All right.
00:03:45.140 No, I got it.
00:03:46.020 I wasn't sure how I got – whether I gave it to the president.
00:03:50.260 It was faxed to the president, which I had to copy.
00:03:52.740 Right.
00:03:53.400 Okay.
00:03:53.780 You had the original.
00:03:54.520 Yeah, I had the original.
00:03:55.320 And I just put it in the book, and that was it.
00:03:57.360 Okay.
00:03:57.640 Were you aware that you had kept it after your term as vice president?
00:04:04.360 Did you know that you had it?
00:04:06.520 I don't know that I knew, but it wouldn't have – it wouldn't sound something I would
00:04:11.520 have started to think about.
00:04:14.700 The reason I ask is it's been written about – Bob Woodward wrote about it in one of his
00:04:19.780 books.
00:04:21.300 Jules Winkover wrote about it in his biography of you.
00:04:24.700 So that's the reason I asked, is if it was something that you wanted to hang on to because
00:04:30.180 it was going to be the subject of reporting or –
00:04:32.900 I don't know if it was going to be the subject of reporting, but I wanted to hang – I guess
00:04:36.980 I wanted to hang on to it just for posterity's sake.
00:04:40.180 I mean, this was my position on Afghanistan.
00:04:44.200 In the course of explaining that memo about Afghanistan, you said to Mark, I just found all the classified
00:04:52.080 stuff downstairs.
00:04:54.700 And so you can imagine, we are curious, what you meant when you said, I just found all the
00:05:02.560 classified stuff downstairs.
00:05:05.900 I don't remember.
00:05:09.260 I'm not supposed to speculate, right?
00:05:11.160 Correct.
00:05:11.360 Okay, well, I don't remember, and it may have been – I just don't remember.
00:05:24.920 Okay.
00:05:25.620 Do you remember telling Mark about the handwritten memo that you had written for President Obama?
00:05:32.400 I probably did.
00:05:33.320 I don't remember specifically, but my guess is I may have done that.
00:05:38.460 Okay.
00:05:38.880 Do you remember telling him, I just found all the marked classified stuff downstairs?
00:05:47.320 Telling Mark.
00:05:48.380 Do you remember saying that to him?
00:05:50.180 No.
00:05:50.460 Okay.
00:05:51.520 Do you remember actually finding any classified stuff downstairs?
00:05:57.740 No.
00:05:58.220 We appreciate very much your willingness, and we hope that you will be able to – that you
00:06:06.340 will put forth your best efforts in really trying to get your best recollection in response
00:06:11.360 to the questions we ask, because I acknowledge that some of the questions we are asking related
00:06:15.460 to events that happened years ago.
00:06:16.900 I'm a young man, so it's not a problem.
00:06:24.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:06:28.880 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:06:34.120 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:06:38.420 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:06:40.320 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:06:41.760 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:06:44.440 It's going to happen.
00:06:45.480 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:06:49.100 Mega Media.
00:06:50.020 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:06:55.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:06:59.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:05.960 War Room.
00:07:06.860 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:07:09.280 It's Saturday, 17 May, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:07:19.000 Blockbuster tape put out last night, first in about a four, four and a half minute clip,
00:07:24.380 and then later in the evening put out exclusively at Axios.
00:07:28.200 The reporter's Mark Caputo.
00:07:29.520 He joins us now.
00:07:31.020 Mark, first off, how many years have you been a reporter, sir?
00:07:34.420 I guess I'm old as the hills since 1996, and you do the math.
00:07:43.420 So you've been doing this a couple of three years, right?
00:07:47.720 A little bit.
00:07:48.380 Is this one of the biggest blockbuster stories you've ever handled?
00:07:56.420 Because, dude, this is so much bigger than Watergate.
00:07:59.960 I'm actually gobsmacked on your first clip, and then when I heard the whole thing.
00:08:04.880 Is this the biggest scandal you've ever handled in your life?
00:08:08.880 I don't know about the biggest scandal, but it's a huge news story because it speaks to
00:08:17.840 all of these different themes and elements that had been discussed in the 2020 campaign,
00:08:23.460 2024, and then after, which was in 2016, even, to a degree, which is Joe Biden decided
00:08:31.880 to run, and there were persistent questions about his age, and his administration and his
00:08:38.860 campaign did a very effective job putting up enough guardrails around him, bubble wrapping
00:08:44.640 him, and also relying in some cases on very skillfully placed stories, for instance, that
00:08:50.260 he had a stutter, to explain how he had lost some of his edge, to put it general.
00:08:56.100 And now, after the Biden White House had refused to release these tapes, the Biden Department
00:09:04.240 of Justice had refused to release these tapes of him sitting down with this special prosecutor,
00:09:09.980 we now actually hear for the first time.
00:09:12.040 It adds a real dimension to that discussion that happened that day that we just didn't
00:09:17.760 hear before.
00:09:19.240 And some of it is just the normal stuff of asking anybody, hey, what happened a few years
00:09:25.020 ago, like, I couldn't remember how long I've been a reporter.
00:09:28.540 But when you listen to some sections of it, it's just very, very surprising at how Joe
00:09:35.220 Biden was unable to answer certain just basic questions or recall certain basic dates, namely
00:09:42.040 the death of his son, the year Donald Trump was elected, when he left as vice president.
00:09:46.820 And you can just hear in his voice that it's just not the same guy who was a vice president
00:09:54.400 or even to a degree who had first run for president in 2020.
00:09:59.480 By that point in 2023, when he had sat down with the special prosecutors, it was pretty
00:10:03.880 clear that, as the prosecutor had said, he was an old man.
00:10:09.580 And the prosecutor said he was a simple, he would be seen by jurors as a sympathetic old
00:10:15.100 man.
00:10:15.940 And that's part of the reason, with a bad memory, essentially, that he wouldn't be prosecuted.
00:10:20.940 And Democrats at the time just attacked the special prosecutor criminals, you know, attack
00:10:25.500 the press for reporting about him.
00:10:27.180 Now we hear for the first time that Robert Harper accurately described what he heard, because
00:10:34.760 now we can hear it, too.
00:10:36.220 By the way, this interview with her took, correct me if I'm wrong, 8 October of 2023.
00:10:45.640 So it's just really a year after he gets into the hustings with Trump, trying to take on
00:10:54.600 Trump, I guess, in July and then dropping out.
00:10:57.480 What stunned me is that Robert Herr, if you just step back for a second, Robert Herr sounds
00:11:03.720 like a resident or an intern or a young doctor at a facility for older folks really guiding
00:11:13.680 somebody through.
00:11:14.720 I mean, this is not what you consider a prosecutorial deposition.
00:11:18.740 He's not coming on hard.
00:11:20.100 He's almost trying to guide.
00:11:22.840 And I'm not saying he's being unprofessional, but he's being quite gentle on what obviously
00:11:26.720 is a frail old man in front of him.
00:11:28.860 Is that not the way you perceive it?
00:11:30.680 Well, there's two prosecutors who appear in this tape, or who you can hear.
00:11:36.880 The one initially who is asking him just sort of the basic foundation questions of the documentation,
00:11:44.820 which prompted Biden's response about Beau and all of those memory lapses.
00:11:50.640 That was Robert Herr.
00:11:51.680 And the second prosecutor is a guy named Mark Crickbaum.
00:11:56.340 And yes, both of them were very friendly, very gentle.
00:12:02.160 Even Crickbaum, he's the guy who sort of catches Biden, so to speak, in these two sort of inconsistencies.
00:12:11.620 Biden at one point says, like, I don't know why I kept it all this stuff.
00:12:16.740 And then Crickbaum's like, well, you know, you talked about this with Bob Woodward and
00:12:21.880 these other journalists.
00:12:23.080 Do you think you might have kept it for posterity's sake?
00:12:25.680 And the reason Crickbaum is asking that is to lay the foundation for the fact that Biden
00:12:29.520 knew he had classified documents and decided to keep them.
00:12:34.480 And that was an intent crime, so to speak, or it could be an intent crime.
00:12:38.380 And then you hear Biden's lawyer, Bob Bauer, kind of quickly jump in at a certain point.
00:12:45.460 We document this in our story at Axios.
00:12:48.600 And sort of get a little testy.
00:12:50.880 And like, hey, look, the president has answered what he's answered.
00:12:53.820 Don't ask him anymore.
00:12:55.540 Later on, Crickbaum, in a very, again, gentle fashion, points out, hey, we have these tapes
00:13:01.220 of you talking to your ghostwriter for your book, Promise Me Dad.
00:13:05.760 And in that recording made by your ghostwriter review, you said, I found all the classified
00:13:11.500 stuff downstairs.
00:13:12.800 Like, what gives?
00:13:13.880 Who would like to know more about it?
00:13:15.860 Biden, now we can't see it.
00:13:17.240 It's just audio, essentially turns to his lawyer.
00:13:19.980 He audially turns to his lawyer and says, well, you know, I'm kind of not, he doesn't quite
00:13:26.720 say I'm not supposed to answer that.
00:13:28.360 But he gives a very lawyerly response, and his lawyer backs him up.
00:13:31.900 But in both of those cases, Robert Herr, who is just trying to establish this basic foundation
00:13:37.580 of where are your desks?
00:13:40.240 Where are your file cabinets?
00:13:41.940 How do the file cabinets and desks wind up in your various offices and homes?
00:13:46.420 And how do these classified documents wind up in those pieces of furniture?
00:13:51.400 He just had a very difficult time doing it.
00:13:53.600 In both cases, however, these guys are very friendly.
00:13:57.740 They're very respectful.
00:13:59.480 They understand they're interviewing the president.
00:14:01.680 The president's lawyer, Bob Bauer, calls the special prosecutor, Rob, or Robert, doesn't
00:14:07.560 call him Mr. Herr, and he calls Mark Kreckbaum, the other prosecutor, Mark.
00:14:13.140 So it's very familiar and very friendly, to be honest.
00:14:16.500 That's one of the things that makes it surprising to see Democrats afterwards say that they're
00:14:20.880 politically motivated.
00:14:21.660 But it just wasn't the case.
00:14:24.500 Mark, can you hang on one second?
00:14:25.880 We'll take a short commercial break.
00:14:27.080 Mark Caputo, a reporter from 1996, at least 1996.
00:14:32.460 We've been doing this a couple, three years.
00:14:33.660 At Axios, one of the main folks over there.
00:14:36.860 A blockbuster news story that is the dominant news story this morning throughout the world.
00:14:43.160 Her interview with Joe Biden from 8 October of 2023.
00:14:47.940 Short commercial break.
00:14:48.980 We're also going to go to the Vatican with Ben Harnwell shortly.
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00:16:16.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:16:19.020 Okay, we're with Mark Caputo of Axios, the Jim Vanderhay, Mike Allen site
00:16:27.260 that is kind of the conventional, the Washington Consensus news site here
00:16:31.520 that kind of drives the conversation, the narrative every day.
00:16:37.180 Caputo, you are one of the most respected guys in town,
00:16:40.040 being as close to even-handed as the mainstream media can get.
00:16:43.360 But I think people are saying, how did Mark Caputo and Axios end up with a tape
00:16:51.780 that, I don't know, may evolve into a scandal the scale of Watergate, sir?
00:16:59.080 I would say two reasons.
00:17:01.200 One is the Wayne Gretzky rule.
00:17:03.660 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
00:17:06.460 And we asked.
00:17:07.760 We just took the shot.
00:17:09.040 And then secondly, my co-author on this, Alex Thompson, has co-authored a book
00:17:14.020 that talks about the cover-up from the Biden operation of his age.
00:17:19.180 And combined with sort of both of our reputations
00:17:22.460 and the fact that we had said early on,
00:17:25.880 I started asking for this on January 22nd of the new administration.
00:17:30.280 No one had really been paying attention to it.
00:17:32.720 They said, yeah, sure.
00:17:35.260 Understand that when we asked for these tapes,
00:17:37.340 like, no one at the Department of Justice knew where they were.
00:17:40.720 They had to go track them down.
00:17:42.880 It prompted an actual search to just locate these things
00:17:46.940 and figure out if the tape matches the transcript
00:17:50.280 and then how to release it.
00:17:51.720 And the rest is history.
00:17:54.140 Hold on. Hang on.
00:17:54.980 Hold on. Stop. Stop.
00:17:56.580 You're telling me in the landing team,
00:18:00.780 in the beachhead team they're supposed to do,
00:18:02.980 in the transition they're supposed to do the change of command,
00:18:05.780 that this was not like in, like, the top two or three things
00:18:09.920 on the checklist that they said, okay, her tapes over here,
00:18:12.500 let's storm, that the beachhead and landing teams
00:18:15.160 didn't have those readily available?
00:18:17.600 I can't speak to that,
00:18:19.560 but I can tell you that the people I spoke to
00:18:22.000 at the Department of Justice at the White House,
00:18:24.260 including those at some of the most senior levels,
00:18:27.320 had no idea where these things were.
00:18:29.620 Some of them had been like, oh, yeah.
00:18:32.760 Yeah, sure.
00:18:33.620 We'll get them to you.
00:18:35.380 We just need to find them.
00:18:37.260 And this was, like, January 22nd was the first day I asked.
00:18:40.120 I called back a week later.
00:18:41.220 They're, like, still looking.
00:18:42.640 So they had to track them down.
00:18:44.540 I have a feeling I was led at one point to believe
00:18:47.600 that they weren't even at DOJ.
00:18:49.940 Now, I can't confirm that.
00:18:51.340 I was unable to confirm it.
00:18:52.900 But it just gives you an idea of this sort of mad dash
00:18:56.040 that they went through sort of looking through file cabinets
00:18:59.120 or picking up the phone, calling people like,
00:19:01.060 hey, who's got the tape?
00:19:02.100 Well, eventually they got the tape
00:19:03.460 and eventually it came to us.
00:19:06.940 Caputo, when's the first time that you and Alex
00:19:09.060 actually had a chance to listen to,
00:19:10.900 when's the first time that you had a chance
00:19:12.540 to listen to these tapes?
00:19:17.620 Tuesday, I think.
00:19:19.340 I'm losing track of days here.
00:19:22.300 Yeah, Tuesday is when we started listening to them.
00:19:24.440 And what's—these interviews took place over two days,
00:19:30.240 October 8th and October 9th of 2023.
00:19:33.660 The first day is where Biden just really doesn't sound with it.
00:19:39.740 Now, that's the day after October 7th.
00:19:42.280 I would imagine at a certain point some people will say,
00:19:45.500 well, yeah, he was tired because he was up all night
00:19:48.040 dealing with the crisis that unfolded in Israel
00:19:51.140 when Hamas launched his terrorist attack.
00:19:53.500 October 9th, he's much more with it and much cleaner.
00:19:56.960 So there's like a good day Biden and a bad day Biden.
00:20:00.040 The bad day Biden was day one.
00:20:01.920 And I got to tell you, like, that's just painful listening.
00:20:05.460 You had played that first clip at the top of the show
00:20:07.700 where he is kind of fumbling around in the recesses of his mind
00:20:12.540 to find these words and figure out these dates.
00:20:16.380 And he's getting an assist from his lawyers
00:20:18.420 who sort of take on the role of memory caretaker for him.
00:20:23.020 And one of the things that struck me when I listened to it more closely,
00:20:27.420 and we wrote about this in Axios,
00:20:29.440 is that this takes place in the White House map room.
00:20:31.920 And there's a giant grandfather clock.
00:20:34.260 And you can hear it ticking in the background.
00:20:37.600 And the ticking is this sort of metronomic reminder of the passage of time.
00:20:43.940 And it almost has a sort of literary device.
00:20:46.600 It's something like Edgar Allan Poe or something,
00:20:49.480 where you can just hear this tick-tock,
00:20:52.220 this relentless ticking and talking of time
00:20:55.200 as Joe Biden is kind of mumbling and muttering
00:20:59.960 through some of these uncomfortable silences.
00:21:02.420 It's difficult to listen to.
00:21:05.480 In the literal sense, it's pathetic.
00:21:11.220 Did, as you listen to it,
00:21:13.140 given you've covered this for a couple of years
00:21:16.380 and you were the first guy to really,
00:21:18.000 hey, I want these tapes,
00:21:19.200 go to the White House and just say,
00:21:20.800 hey, put me to the top of the list.
00:21:22.120 I want these to initiate this.
00:21:24.320 As you were listening to them,
00:21:27.220 did you realize, did you think,
00:21:29.260 hey, I got the goods here.
00:21:30.380 This is kind of blowing me away.
00:21:32.420 I was wondering how to write about a guy,
00:21:37.680 how do you write about uncomfortable silences, right?
00:21:41.380 I was thinking about it in a very process-oriented way.
00:21:46.640 But in listening to it,
00:21:49.480 it just reminded me of how difficult it was
00:21:52.760 to cover Biden back in 2020.
00:21:55.640 Part of the reason that we had gotten these tapes,
00:21:59.980 I said that both Alex Thompson and I
00:22:02.780 have our reputations for calling it as it is,
00:22:06.460 was that I wrote one of the first stories
00:22:08.340 in the mainstream media
00:22:09.660 with a prior publication that I worked at.
00:22:12.780 In 2019, right after Joe Biden announced,
00:22:17.140 we did a story when I worked at Politico
00:22:19.100 about whether he was too old.
00:22:22.060 It was pretty clear then that he was having age problems.
00:22:26.580 But having covered him then in that campaign,
00:22:30.520 and then listening to it now,
00:22:32.700 I was just sort of blown away
00:22:34.300 that he sounded so bad on day one.
00:22:40.860 And then I was blown away
00:22:42.060 that he didn't sound so bad on day two.
00:22:45.200 But this is something that you see
00:22:47.320 if you have,
00:22:49.000 and you're lucky enough to have,
00:22:50.720 aging parents,
00:22:52.080 or have had aging grandparents.
00:22:53.980 They have good days.
00:22:56.080 You're like,
00:22:56.820 hey,
00:22:57.360 they're back.
00:22:59.480 And they have bad days.
00:23:01.300 You're like,
00:23:01.760 oh man,
00:23:02.420 this is not good.
00:23:03.760 And you hear both of those on these tapes.
00:23:08.380 What do you think as a reporter,
00:23:10.640 as the story unfolds,
00:23:12.760 that
00:23:13.220 this is going to
00:23:15.980 either lead to investigations,
00:23:18.680 or at least inquiries from the media
00:23:20.240 and others,
00:23:21.100 about the Praetorian Guard
00:23:22.540 around
00:23:23.220 Biden.
00:23:25.020 Because when you hear the bad day,
00:23:27.980 you're sitting there thinking
00:23:29.220 it's the day after.
00:23:31.200 The bad day is the day after
00:23:33.120 one of the most
00:23:34.800 significant military events,
00:23:38.340 not terrorists,
00:23:39.140 military events
00:23:39.980 in the history of the modern Middle East.
00:23:43.240 And you're listening to the commander-in-chief
00:23:45.480 of the armed forces of the United States,
00:23:48.720 sir.
00:23:50.240 Yeah,
00:23:52.500 I mean,
00:23:52.920 that goes through your mind
00:23:53.760 when you listen to it.
00:23:54.600 I don't know
00:23:55.500 how much
00:23:56.560 this is going to lead
00:23:58.620 to investigations,
00:24:00.200 but
00:24:00.600 this is,
00:24:02.040 I'm going to shamelessly plug
00:24:03.720 Alec Thompson
00:24:04.560 and Jake Chaper's book,
00:24:06.420 Original Sin.
00:24:07.320 This is something that they document
00:24:08.720 pretty clearly in there.
00:24:10.580 What you are also seeing,
00:24:12.220 because we're in a very fluid,
00:24:14.160 dynamic political environment
00:24:15.500 with social media,
00:24:16.740 is there is a Democratic
00:24:18.360 backlash or jujitsu
00:24:21.420 that's occurring,
00:24:22.580 where people are saying,
00:24:23.620 okay, yeah, sure,
00:24:24.340 Joe Biden was bad,
00:24:25.240 but boy, listen to Donald Trump.
00:24:27.120 So you're going to hear more
00:24:29.340 about sort of the conflict
00:24:30.480 between these two men
00:24:31.980 in that respect,
00:24:33.940 or in that regard,
00:24:35.380 play out.
00:24:35.940 But it does clearly call
00:24:38.320 into question
00:24:39.280 the degree to which
00:24:41.540 Joe Biden
00:24:42.500 was bubble-wrapped
00:24:43.920 by his administration
00:24:46.320 and his handlers,
00:24:47.380 because it is clear
00:24:48.800 when you listen
00:24:50.080 to these tapes
00:24:50.820 that the President
00:24:51.880 of the United States
00:24:52.780 did have handlers.
00:24:55.500 He did have people
00:24:56.800 who helped him
00:24:58.020 through sort of basic facts
00:25:00.420 when he was speaking
00:25:01.440 in candid environments.
00:25:03.640 And learning more
00:25:04.980 about those
00:25:05.940 would certainly fulfill
00:25:07.880 or fill out
00:25:08.660 the historic record
00:25:09.600 or the historical record.
00:25:11.920 Where do you go?
00:25:12.960 I know you've got to bounce.
00:25:14.300 We've got a couple of minutes.
00:25:15.580 Where does Caputo
00:25:17.020 take this story?
00:25:18.360 You've been known
00:25:19.400 as being a pretty
00:25:20.100 dogged reporter.
00:25:21.480 Alex clearly has written
00:25:22.400 this blockbuster book
00:25:23.440 with Tapper.
00:25:24.400 That'll have to stand,
00:25:25.720 you know,
00:25:26.180 obviously on its merits.
00:25:29.000 But where do you go
00:25:29.840 with the story?
00:25:31.420 Well, I would have to say
00:25:32.140 stay tuned.
00:25:33.120 I am both
00:25:34.700 a full-time reporter
00:25:36.620 and I am being interviewed
00:25:38.920 right now
00:25:39.560 from a rental home
00:25:40.820 that I'm trying to fix up.
00:25:42.200 That's why I kind of
00:25:43.360 look terrible.
00:25:44.700 And so I haven't given
00:25:46.580 it enough thought.
00:25:47.860 I will answer that
00:25:49.160 as candidly
00:25:50.200 and honestly as possible.
00:25:51.520 This is why I'll never
00:25:52.400 run for elected office
00:25:54.080 and why I'll never
00:25:55.000 be elected if I did.
00:25:57.260 Caputo, you know,
00:25:58.100 I don't want to upset you
00:25:59.380 but you kind of look
00:26:00.180 the same that I've
00:26:01.160 gotten to know you
00:26:01.880 so I don't know.
00:26:02.620 I wouldn't blame it
00:26:03.240 on the new house, okay?
00:26:05.560 Well, I don't even have
00:26:06.380 a wireless connection here
00:26:07.580 so it's been all choppy.
00:26:08.800 I apologize.
00:26:09.600 Thanks.
00:26:09.960 I got to put in
00:26:10.420 an air conditioner now
00:26:11.220 and a wall unit.
00:26:12.100 I'm going to get going.
00:26:13.800 Mark, where do people
00:26:14.660 go on social media
00:26:15.640 over at Axios
00:26:16.640 to follow this?
00:26:18.920 Mark with a C
00:26:19.740 at Mark A. Caputo.
00:26:21.800 I'm on Twitter
00:26:22.560 or X
00:26:23.440 or whatever you call it
00:26:24.140 and obviously Axios.com
00:26:25.540 I have an author page
00:26:26.340 as well.
00:26:28.740 Mark Caputo,
00:26:29.100 thank you very much
00:26:29.740 for taking time away
00:26:30.560 on a Saturday
00:26:31.160 to talk with us
00:26:32.620 here in the war room.
00:26:33.220 I appreciate you.
00:26:34.820 I appreciate you.
00:26:35.740 Thanks, Steve.
00:26:36.200 Bye.
00:26:37.420 Thank you.
00:26:39.660 Wow.
00:26:41.200 How about the answer
00:26:42.580 to the first question?
00:26:43.840 How did you get
00:26:44.700 this Black Press tape?
00:26:45.620 I asked.
00:26:46.420 This is a lesson
00:26:48.260 for everybody out there
00:26:49.420 and particularly
00:26:50.160 young people.
00:26:51.780 Initiate action.
00:26:53.580 You never know
00:26:54.280 how it's going to play out.
00:26:55.300 Just initiate action.
00:26:57.520 The first one to ask
00:26:58.700 and to be persistent
00:27:00.280 and dogged about it.
00:27:02.400 The other kind of shocker
00:27:03.660 that they had to go
00:27:06.860 track it down.
00:27:08.780 Just saying.
00:27:09.640 Okay, we're going
00:27:10.220 to take a short break.
00:27:11.080 We've got Harnwell
00:27:11.760 at the Vatican.
00:27:12.860 My wingman this morning
00:27:14.500 is Dave Bratt.
00:27:16.140 I'm going to get Dave
00:27:16.820 in here for his thoughts
00:27:17.780 about this blockbuster story.
00:27:19.340 Chip Roy is going
00:27:21.680 to join us later
00:27:22.520 about the budget.
00:27:23.860 We've got a special
00:27:24.760 I think
00:27:26.200 I don't want to say
00:27:26.980 it's Lazarus
00:27:27.920 but we've got
00:27:30.020 a special guest.
00:27:31.800 We've got a very
00:27:32.440 special guest
00:27:33.420 that we're going
00:27:35.020 to have some
00:27:35.900 I don't know
00:27:37.020 fun with
00:27:37.540 but some interesting
00:27:38.700 conversation
00:27:39.740 as we bring you
00:27:40.900 back on the main stage
00:27:42.180 here at the War Room.
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00:29:24.080 Stephen K. Bannon
00:29:25.440 so I'm gobsmacked
00:29:28.080 I'm going to get to that
00:29:29.240 in a second
00:29:29.640 Brad's going to join me
00:29:30.700 and if you get a chance
00:29:33.600 you got to listen
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00:29:35.160 it'll be a good Saturday
00:29:36.900 a good weekend for you
00:29:37.880 you'll be kind of stunned
00:29:39.020 particularly the bad day
00:29:40.200 and always keep in mind
00:29:41.320 the guy's commander
00:29:42.040 in chief of the armed forces
00:29:43.120 put the hand
00:29:44.300 on the nuclear code
00:29:45.300 Tej
00:29:46.560 now more than ever
00:29:47.720 I need a
00:29:48.300 I need a
00:29:48.820 I need a
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00:29:51.020 what do you got
00:29:51.780 for me brother?
00:29:53.680 Yeah we got 20%
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00:29:55.600 as usual
00:29:56.180 it's the best
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00:29:58.740 we have almost
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00:30:02.860 right now
00:30:03.360 which is
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00:30:04.500 I never thought
00:30:05.240 we'd have this many
00:30:06.060 five star reviews
00:30:06.860 people love it
00:30:07.700 I'm out here
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00:30:09.860 in southern Idaho
00:30:10.800 and I brought
00:30:11.520 a couple pounds
00:30:12.480 of coffee out here
00:30:13.220 and the people here
00:30:14.020 were like wow
00:30:14.560 this coffee's the best coffee
00:30:15.700 they're like
00:30:16.060 thanks for rescuing us
00:30:17.580 from the crappy coffee
00:30:18.960 we've been drinking
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00:30:20.420 we roast it
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00:30:23.160 and that's why
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00:30:25.080 we don't burn
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00:30:34.940 Steve Bain
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00:30:42.500 the summer blend
00:30:43.080 is actually
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00:31:19.740 folks you're going to
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00:31:22.160 when you go to warpath
00:31:23.280 how
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00:31:26.020 and you're going to
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00:31:27.600 and sugar
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00:31:29.020 that's right
00:31:30.300 you're going to drink it
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00:31:37.820 yes
00:31:38.080 it is literally
00:31:39.000 the champagne of coffee
00:31:40.120 you coined that phrase
00:31:41.280 Steve
00:31:41.600 and it is
00:31:42.480 it's a perfect description
00:31:44.640 for our coffee
00:31:45.340 just go to the website
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00:31:49.260 is read those reviews
00:31:50.420 and then
00:31:51.020 order it and try it
00:31:52.520 it is the best coffee
00:31:53.680 out there
00:31:54.140 one more time
00:31:55.760 where do they go today
00:31:56.960 where do they go right now
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00:31:59.680 the best ever made
00:32:00.620 the website
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00:32:21.580 yeah there's no gimmicks
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00:32:29.060 that's stunning
00:32:29.900 I mean it's a 5x
00:32:30.980 over 10x
00:32:31.920 over as normal
00:32:32.360 as we got to bounce
00:32:33.720 tajan you got to go
00:32:34.580 back to shooting
00:32:35.160 at your lodge
00:32:36.580 tell those guys
00:32:38.220 tell those guys
00:32:38.860 they're drinking
00:32:39.400 the champagne of coffee
00:32:40.580 throw away
00:32:41.040 liberate yourself
00:32:41.940 throw your cream
00:32:42.600 and sugar away
00:32:43.360 thank you brother
00:32:44.480 the Tej Gill
00:32:48.020 amazing
00:32:48.920 from gunman
00:32:50.280 from Navy SEAL
00:32:51.620 gunman
00:32:52.180 to
00:32:52.540 to coffee
00:32:54.080 roaster
00:32:54.520 extraordinaire
00:32:55.300 Dave Bratt
00:32:56.260 here's what's
00:32:57.960 stunning to me
00:32:58.720 what's stunning
00:33:01.640 the persistency
00:33:02.900 in Caputo
00:33:03.500 to get
00:33:04.100 the story
00:33:05.020 and to get
00:33:05.440 the tapes
00:33:06.000 is just
00:33:07.020 good old
00:33:07.580 American grit
00:33:08.440 and they just
00:33:09.000 put it out there
00:33:09.700 and you can listen
00:33:10.420 to it
00:33:10.820 and everybody
00:33:11.560 should listen
00:33:12.100 to it
00:33:12.500 what has stunned
00:33:14.080 me
00:33:14.480 is
00:33:15.720 why
00:33:16.920 have we not
00:33:17.640 in panel
00:33:18.020 why is there
00:33:18.760 not a massive
00:33:19.400 investigation
00:33:19.980 this was controlled
00:33:21.060 by the
00:33:21.440 Department of Justice
00:33:22.580 the Department of Justice
00:33:24.380 and President Trump's
00:33:26.220 administration
00:33:26.960 why is there
00:33:29.100 already not a massive
00:33:29.960 investigation
00:33:30.620 that's four or five
00:33:31.520 months into the
00:33:32.540 or at least four months
00:33:34.260 into
00:33:35.320 into existence
00:33:36.600 sir
00:33:37.000 well I'm hoping
00:33:40.280 that there's a good
00:33:40.980 answer
00:33:41.500 with
00:33:42.700 Bondi
00:33:43.760 and cash
00:33:44.440 government
00:33:45.180 gangsters
00:33:46.040 I'm hoping
00:33:46.920 they have
00:33:47.380 them all
00:33:47.740 lined up
00:33:48.520 right
00:33:48.740 I mean
00:33:49.000 now we've
00:33:49.520 got
00:33:49.800 Comey
00:33:51.360 with just
00:33:52.200 grotesque
00:33:53.100 morally
00:33:54.360 reprehensible
00:33:55.800 actions
00:33:56.560 and then you got
00:33:58.160 Brennan
00:33:58.760 you got the
00:33:59.400 CIA
00:33:59.780 all these
00:34:00.820 folks
00:34:01.260 are just
00:34:01.780 lined up
00:34:02.460 and then the
00:34:02.860 entire
00:34:03.240 Justice
00:34:03.700 Department
00:34:04.360 the criminality
00:34:06.020 that ran
00:34:06.580 across the
00:34:07.120 51
00:34:07.740 intelligence
00:34:08.440 officers
00:34:09.020 and I
00:34:10.520 mean
00:34:10.780 I'm just
00:34:11.200 shocked
00:34:11.460 I pay
00:34:12.040 too much
00:34:12.440 attention
00:34:12.840 to the
00:34:13.460 media
00:34:13.920 side
00:34:14.340 but you
00:34:14.740 put your
00:34:15.520 finger
00:34:15.800 on it
00:34:16.200 right
00:34:16.420 and the
00:34:16.940 the left
00:34:18.120 won't even
00:34:18.620 cover it
00:34:19.020 right
00:34:19.140 they're going
00:34:19.400 to draw
00:34:19.780 you know
00:34:20.200 comparisons
00:34:20.700 with Trump
00:34:21.300 or whatever
00:34:21.740 but why
00:34:22.160 was there
00:34:22.600 not a
00:34:23.720 move
00:34:24.160 why was
00:34:24.740 there not
00:34:25.080 but hang
00:34:25.500 why was
00:34:25.980 there not
00:34:26.240 a move
00:34:26.580 of Kamala
00:34:27.180 Harris
00:34:27.720 General
00:34:28.980 Austin
00:34:29.540 the people
00:34:30.600 that saw
00:34:30.920 him every
00:34:31.220 day
00:34:31.380 on the
00:34:31.620 25th
00:34:32.080 amendment
00:34:32.320 why
00:34:32.740 would
00:34:32.960 this
00:34:33.200 this is
00:34:33.700 about
00:34:34.060 the
00:34:34.280 security
00:34:34.720 not just
00:34:35.280 the United
00:34:35.620 States
00:34:35.900 of America
00:34:36.200 this is
00:34:36.740 about
00:34:36.860 the
00:34:37.060 security
00:34:37.380 of the
00:34:38.720 of the
00:34:39.440 world
00:34:39.700 who's
00:34:40.480 to say
00:34:41.160 that
00:34:42.860 infiltration
00:34:44.440 or the
00:34:44.960 Muslim
00:34:45.240 Brotherhood
00:34:45.800 or whatever
00:34:46.380 knew about
00:34:47.720 how he's
00:34:48.140 impaired
00:34:48.560 how impaired
00:34:49.380 he was
00:34:50.060 to
00:34:51.300 to
00:34:51.980 initiate
00:34:52.640 to initiate
00:34:53.920 October 7th
00:34:54.820 in Gaza
00:34:55.220 who's to
00:34:55.820 say
00:34:56.260 that they
00:34:57.600 knew how
00:34:58.040 impaired he
00:34:58.560 was and
00:34:59.100 how he
00:34:59.480 could make
00:34:59.900 decisions
00:35:00.520 and fumbled
00:35:01.220 everything
00:35:01.680 that this
00:35:02.880 part drove
00:35:03.520 the Ukraine
00:35:04.040 invasion
00:35:04.560 I don't
00:35:05.900 know
00:35:06.240 but what
00:35:07.300 I do
00:35:07.660 know is
00:35:08.940 that it
00:35:09.520 is unacceptable
00:35:10.500 that is
00:35:11.000 not you
00:35:11.480 listen to
00:35:11.960 those tapes
00:35:12.660 in her
00:35:13.820 he's like
00:35:15.460 if you saw
00:35:17.560 one flew over
00:35:18.340 the cuckoo's
00:35:18.920 nest he's like
00:35:19.540 one of the
00:35:19.920 assistants there
00:35:20.660 helping those
00:35:21.240 people through
00:35:22.160 through their
00:35:22.760 day
00:35:23.200 if you've
00:35:24.460 ever had
00:35:25.040 a relative
00:35:25.800 in one of
00:35:26.420 these homes
00:35:27.040 that you
00:35:28.160 go and
00:35:28.680 these very
00:35:29.380 courageous
00:35:29.940 and generous
00:35:30.820 people who
00:35:31.820 are the
00:35:32.080 assistants or
00:35:32.800 the residents
00:35:33.300 or the young
00:35:33.860 doctors or
00:35:34.500 the nurses
00:35:34.960 they're helping
00:35:36.160 them through
00:35:36.740 the day
00:35:37.640 that's what
00:35:38.160 her was so
00:35:38.940 gentle and
00:35:39.520 the other
00:35:39.980 lawyer were
00:35:40.880 so gentle
00:35:41.580 it was like
00:35:42.520 talking to
00:35:43.480 a dementia
00:35:44.980 a patient
00:35:45.500 that's got
00:35:45.880 the beginnings
00:35:46.360 of dementia
00:35:46.980 they're guiding
00:35:48.680 him through
00:35:49.300 that's on the
00:35:50.100 tape you can't
00:35:50.800 deny that
00:35:51.360 and all the
00:35:51.780 lies and
00:35:52.160 misrepresentation
00:35:52.960 this is a
00:35:53.500 scandal the
00:35:54.080 dwarfs were
00:35:54.580 to gate
00:35:54.940 this is a
00:35:56.420 commander
00:35:56.640 we've had
00:35:58.040 the beginning
00:35:58.640 of the
00:35:59.040 kinetic part
00:35:59.820 of the
00:36:00.140 third world
00:36:00.500 there's no
00:36:00.980 coincidences
00:36:01.780 folks
00:36:02.420 there's no
00:36:03.060 coincidences
00:36:03.780 and no
00:36:04.840 conspiracy
00:36:05.400 but you
00:36:07.260 can't tell
00:36:07.960 me
00:36:08.400 that our
00:36:09.420 enemies
00:36:09.960 didn't know
00:36:11.780 they had a
00:36:12.440 guy that was
00:36:12.960 not up to
00:36:13.380 the task
00:36:13.900 in the inner
00:36:14.460 circle at
00:36:15.240 least knew it
00:36:16.000 and knew it
00:36:16.440 every day
00:36:17.000 he's
00:36:18.220 commander
00:36:18.740 in chief
00:36:19.120 this is the
00:36:19.560 big fight
00:36:20.040 in the
00:36:20.340 supreme court
00:36:20.900 from last
00:36:21.440 night
00:36:21.800 the guy
00:36:23.460 that office
00:36:24.220 is the
00:36:24.600 commander
00:36:24.940 in chief
00:36:25.340 they're trying
00:36:25.780 to thwart
00:36:26.420 they're trying
00:36:27.460 to thwart
00:36:28.140 trump
00:36:29.200 and they
00:36:30.180 covered up
00:36:31.080 and protected
00:36:31.620 biden
00:36:32.120 he's commander
00:36:33.720 in chief
00:36:34.200 where's the
00:36:34.740 25th amendment
00:36:35.540 where's kamala
00:36:36.240 harris
00:36:36.540 we have to
00:36:37.260 have a formal
00:36:37.840 inquiry in this
00:36:38.620 you have to
00:36:38.960 adjudicate this
00:36:39.960 this can never
00:36:40.960 be allowed to
00:36:41.660 happen again
00:36:42.120 people have to
00:36:42.840 be held
00:36:43.200 accountable
00:36:43.700 i would argue
00:36:45.440 hey we
00:36:46.060 started the
00:36:46.640 kinetic part
00:36:47.240 of the third
00:36:47.780 world war
00:36:48.280 this is greater
00:36:48.980 than between
00:36:49.620 invasion of
00:36:50.680 poland in
00:36:51.140 39 and the
00:36:52.080 germans going
00:36:53.100 into russia
00:36:53.640 and operation
00:36:54.680 barbarossa
00:36:55.420 in 41
00:36:56.620 we've killed
00:36:58.060 four or five
00:36:59.000 times more
00:36:59.780 people than
00:37:00.520 those two
00:37:00.980 years of the
00:37:01.560 beginning of
00:37:01.980 world war ii
00:37:02.720 and he was
00:37:04.220 on watch
00:37:04.900 and who
00:37:06.120 protected him
00:37:06.980 and i don't
00:37:08.360 want to hear
00:37:08.700 the happy talk
00:37:09.420 media oh
00:37:09.960 just screw
00:37:10.620 you trump
00:37:11.380 can stand up
00:37:12.080 there all the
00:37:12.420 time
00:37:12.800 because he's
00:37:14.880 come out and
00:37:15.260 trolling you
00:37:15.700 guys a third
00:37:16.460 of the time
00:37:16.980 that's his
00:37:17.400 trump just
00:37:17.920 went to the
00:37:18.480 middle east
00:37:18.980 and bench
00:37:19.440 pressed everybody
00:37:20.320 don't give me
00:37:21.160 oh this is no
00:37:22.120 equivalent here
00:37:22.820 and you're not
00:37:23.140 going to get
00:37:23.460 away with the
00:37:23.840 crowd i don't
00:37:24.140 care about
00:37:24.480 your crappy
00:37:25.040 democrat
00:37:25.760 this is the
00:37:27.000 freaking problem
00:37:27.740 the freaking
00:37:29.000 problem was
00:37:29.680 we've had these
00:37:30.400 tapes in the
00:37:31.080 justice department
00:37:31.760 for five months
00:37:32.420 and what the
00:37:32.900 frick is going
00:37:33.600 on
00:37:33.980 why is there
00:37:36.200 not a formal
00:37:36.880 investigation i
00:37:37.560 don't hear
00:37:37.800 comar comar's
00:37:38.860 up yammering
00:37:40.000 again you think
00:37:40.740 we're going to
00:37:41.060 hand this over to
00:37:41.660 comar what
00:37:42.220 he do last
00:37:42.800 time he wasted
00:37:43.560 a couple of
00:37:44.120 years and then
00:37:44.580 wrote a book
00:37:45.240 i don't want
00:37:47.040 another comar
00:37:48.040 investigation and
00:37:48.900 then write another
00:37:49.480 book i want
00:37:50.300 action we need to
00:37:51.760 do this for this
00:37:52.700 republic this can
00:37:53.680 never be allowed
00:37:54.420 to happen again
00:37:55.080 and the way you
00:37:55.680 stop it have
00:37:56.300 and again you
00:37:57.360 hold the people
00:37:58.760 that protected him
00:38:00.160 and hid this
00:38:00.840 information as
00:38:01.720 commander-in-chief
00:38:02.940 commander-in-chief
00:38:05.040 of the armed
00:38:05.740 forces with a
00:38:07.260 raging war going
00:38:08.280 on greater than
00:38:09.540 the kinetic part of
00:38:10.460 the first couple
00:38:10.960 of years of
00:38:11.380 world war ii
00:38:12.000 dave bratt
00:38:12.680 yeah and uh
00:38:15.360 more than
00:38:15.960 commander-in-chief
00:38:16.820 ceo all the
00:38:18.320 secretaries look
00:38:19.220 what trump's doing
00:38:19.940 across all the
00:38:20.920 secretaries now and
00:38:22.220 the chief magistrate
00:38:23.400 compromised it
00:38:24.820 shows you the
00:38:25.440 virtue of the
00:38:26.300 friends set up
00:38:27.080 there too he
00:38:27.720 doesn't have any
00:38:28.500 friends that stick
00:38:29.400 up for him as a
00:38:30.160 human being his
00:38:31.500 wife jill was in
00:38:32.880 on this hang
00:38:33.700 on hang on
00:38:33.880 hang on yo yo
00:38:35.140 you're losing the
00:38:35.780 plot i got it
00:38:37.260 he's chief
00:38:37.760 executive listen
00:38:38.480 he's totally
00:38:39.060 illegitimate look
00:38:39.920 at trump's if we
00:38:40.980 put trump's true
00:38:41.840 social trump's going
00:38:43.060 off on his
00:38:44.660 legitimacy in all
00:38:46.540 the issues that
00:38:47.300 require from his
00:38:48.080 illegitimate because
00:38:49.080 they didn't win
00:38:49.880 2020 you see right
00:38:51.340 now the praetorian
00:38:52.260 guard if you want to
00:38:53.080 see the deep state
00:38:53.820 in action they
00:38:54.860 selected this guy
00:38:56.120 why because he's
00:38:58.000 docile he's an old
00:38:58.860 man he's just
00:38:59.500 gonna you just
00:38:59.940 gotta wander he's
00:39:00.740 just wandering
00:39:01.240 around yeah this
00:39:03.240 proves the point but
00:39:04.720 you've got to now
00:39:05.980 adjudicate it you
00:39:07.800 now have to get a
00:39:08.780 platform that people
00:39:09.580 can see okay we're
00:39:11.840 gonna do this fair
00:39:12.660 we're gonna have all
00:39:13.280 evidence witnesses
00:39:14.320 everything but it's
00:39:15.360 got to be adjudicated
00:39:16.400 it just can't sit
00:39:17.460 there and to know
00:39:18.220 that we're in may
00:39:19.120 and axios breaks it
00:39:20.800 where's the
00:39:21.720 investigation what
00:39:22.980 are you people
00:39:24.620 doing and where
00:39:26.920 are you spending
00:39:28.140 your time because
00:39:30.180 right now i'm not
00:39:32.520 feeling it i'm hearing
00:39:33.440 all kind of go over
00:39:34.280 doing this that's
00:39:35.100 great but somebody's
00:39:36.280 got it then when
00:39:37.000 it comes out with
00:39:37.760 this then it's
00:39:40.260 coming out and
00:39:40.740 saying yeah we've
00:39:41.420 been an investigation
00:39:42.120 we've had a grand
00:39:43.500 jury for the last
00:39:44.380 four months we're
00:39:44.960 calling witnesses in
00:39:46.140 uh we're doing a
00:39:47.540 formal investigation
00:39:48.500 the fbi is all over
00:39:49.720 this we're in we're
00:39:50.700 doing real depositions
00:39:51.880 not her not guiding
00:39:53.520 somebody through do
00:39:54.320 you understand if
00:39:54.820 they had a real
00:39:55.400 prosecutor on this
00:39:56.640 guy he had a real
00:39:58.100 prosecutor he would
00:39:58.920 have cracked he'd
00:40:00.100 have been it'd have
00:40:00.740 been all over the
00:40:01.540 floor been blood
00:40:02.380 everywhere if he
00:40:03.900 had a hey let him
00:40:05.540 have what i had with
00:40:06.840 molar for those i
00:40:08.860 don't know 30 hours
00:40:10.140 let him go up to
00:40:11.640 shifty shift in
00:40:12.600 swalwell in the house
00:40:13.700 intel right let him
00:40:15.520 have a real deposition
00:40:16.700 under oath with a real
00:40:20.060 prosecutor up in your
00:40:21.840 grill not playing
00:40:22.800 patty cake and treating
00:40:23.860 you like an old man you
00:40:24.960 want a cookie here's a
00:40:26.140 cookie how about some
00:40:26.940 milk right look like it
00:40:29.160 looked like an assistant
00:40:30.060 at a firm care people
00:40:33.740 better get up on this
00:40:35.340 baby because this is
00:40:36.980 the thing itself you
00:40:37.900 want to see the deep
00:40:38.480 state you don't think
00:40:39.360 they selected this
00:40:40.200 clown what did caputo
00:40:41.100 said the reason i
00:40:42.660 might have gotten
00:40:43.160 this in 2019 i wrote
00:40:45.100 an article how he was
00:40:46.600 having senior moments
00:40:47.700 at the time that's why
00:40:49.520 they picked him he was
00:40:51.900 the least offensive and
00:40:53.180 he was an old man they
00:40:54.240 could manage so let's
00:40:55.880 get the managers let's
00:40:57.300 drill down on the whole
00:40:58.620 thing because trust me
00:40:59.620 like order gate boom
00:41:01.040 every day you're going
00:41:02.840 to have another
00:41:03.300 revelation it's time to
00:41:06.240 get we're either real
00:41:07.420 about this or not we
00:41:08.660 either we're either
00:41:09.620 going to defend this is
00:41:10.420 not about trump this is
00:41:12.140 not about maga this is
00:41:14.260 not about our movement
00:41:15.700 this is not even about
00:41:17.360 the white house this is
00:41:18.460 about this republic we
00:41:19.800 can never allow this to
00:41:21.220 happen again why did
00:41:22.660 trump say he came back
00:41:23.700 and ran he said that at
00:41:25.740 charlie kirk's at am
00:41:26.620 fest he said i ran
00:41:27.760 because i knew they had
00:41:29.320 started one 2020 and
00:41:30.780 they'd stolen it and he
00:41:33.240 would go against the
00:41:34.340 gates of hell but hell
00:41:35.400 they're going to put him
00:41:36.040 in prison for 300 years he
00:41:37.700 knew that and bankrupt
00:41:38.680 him that was his profile
00:41:40.680 and courage to come back
00:41:41.800 where is our profile and
00:41:42.840 courage about making sure
00:41:45.600 this never happens again in
00:41:46.980 this republic the only way
00:41:48.060 you're going to do it
00:41:48.720 you're going to have some
00:41:49.420 people here that are
00:41:50.600 behind bars and put it in
00:41:52.900 break this is the tool we
00:41:55.240 need to break the deep
00:41:57.280 state but we need the
00:41:59.160 toughness and the focus
00:42:00.980 and the relentlessness to
00:42:03.640 do it this is what's a
00:42:06.180 moment in history you grab
00:42:07.440 it you if you grab it you
00:42:09.180 grab it and you drive it
00:42:10.560 and there'll be so many
00:42:12.000 other revelations that
00:42:12.960 come over about this go
00:42:14.560 back and look at the
00:42:15.140 beginning of watergate it
00:42:16.140 started as a burglar i
00:42:16.960 remember as a kid or as a
00:42:18.540 teenager i think i'm down
00:42:19.540 there at the beach with my
00:42:21.220 family and my dad says
00:42:22.600 you know he's got the
00:42:23.240 paper this is like in
00:42:24.040 july says hey there was
00:42:25.120 something like burglary
00:42:26.040 over at the uh the
00:42:27.580 democratic national
00:42:28.500 committee at some you
00:42:30.440 know apartment complex or
00:42:31.780 hotel called the
00:42:32.480 watergate we're just
00:42:33.180 sitting there like
00:42:33.720 hammerheads oh that's
00:42:35.020 interesting what's dad
00:42:36.460 talking about right and
00:42:39.120 look what happened there
00:42:39.960 a couple of years later
00:42:40.960 nixon's walking out to
00:42:42.840 grab a helicopter marine
00:42:44.080 one and he's not going on
00:42:45.480 a trip he resigned this is
00:42:49.680 bigger because it'll show
00:42:52.640 you how he was selected
00:42:53.900 it showed you his and
00:42:54.880 don't get me wrong as yes
00:42:56.140 a ceo and chief
00:42:57.200 magistrate the other three
00:42:58.120 things they're huge and
00:42:59.880 many of the actions i'm
00:43:00.720 sure will be derived as
00:43:02.220 illegitimate but the
00:43:04.560 commander-in-chief is where
00:43:05.900 we nail it because he put
00:43:08.260 everybody in jeopardy and
00:43:10.440 they were willing to risk
00:43:11.540 that to do what to stop
00:43:14.300 trump to make sure trump
00:43:17.020 wasn't the president short
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00:43:30.060 thousands of acres of u.s
00:43:31.640 farmland they're also
00:43:33.460 taking control over critical
00:43:35.020 supply chains things like
00:43:36.520 fertilizer animal feed and
00:43:38.620 farming equipment why it's not
00:43:41.120 clear they're tightening the
00:43:43.060 grip on global food
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00:46:32.000 thoughts observations sir well I like
00:46:36.080 your rant and unfortunately the Congress
00:46:39.480 and the Senate's not ranting about
00:46:41.340 anything it's just business as usual it
00:46:43.660 appears across the board and so I hate
00:46:45.380 to say it but this will change this is a
00:46:49.220 huge revelation as you say it'll spiral
00:46:51.420 out of control if you start exploring and
00:46:53.760 expanding and calling people in front of
00:46:55.600 our committees our major committees it'll
00:46:58.780 be information overload with corruption
00:47:00.780 and so I you know I hate to ask but Trump
00:47:03.460 is going to have to do a rant on his own
00:47:05.280 people so they know he wants it they know
00:47:08.520 he wants it but that has to happen as you
00:47:11.620 say when you have the CEO and commander in
00:47:14.920 chief of the United States of America there's
00:47:17.520 no bigger story out of commission the
00:47:19.720 reporter didn't want to go all in you could
00:47:21.640 see him reticent but he said he was
00:47:23.900 bubble wrapped we had to be with him to
00:47:25.680 support him on the basic facts we're
00:47:27.840 talking about the president of the United
00:47:29.960 States here this is this is no joke this is
00:47:33.460 it and when you get that chance right there
00:47:36.800 and it's not political this is for the
00:47:38.960 republic as you said you better do the
00:47:41.700 right thing and then you got these press
00:47:43.800 guys coming in you've got Jake Tapper
00:47:47.220 saying yeah I could have gone after a little
00:47:49.140 bit further and Joe and Mika every morning
00:47:51.940 saying he's at the top of his mental acuity
00:47:54.320 and Tapper always says at the beginning of
00:47:56.940 your show every day we don't have a soul his
00:47:59.180 book is called original sin and he he is the
00:48:02.340 most arrogant arrogance and pride is the
00:48:05.280 original sin and the left needs to be
00:48:07.480 taking a task all of them what did you know
00:48:09.900 when did you know it for a change we had
00:48:12.460 republicans that actually went up against
00:48:14.600 Nixon because there's some people of
00:48:16.760 character left back then and they acted
00:48:19.440 like Cub Scouts not knowing that Nixon
00:48:22.380 was being taken out and so now we know
00:48:24.860 all of it we know everything across the
00:48:26.600 board we hammered this every day Jack
00:48:29.000 but so big candidate hammered it every day
00:48:30.820 you could tell the guy wasn't up to it we
00:48:33.680 kept we kept ranting where's your 25th
00:48:36.520 amendment why why are you letting this guy
00:48:38.740 and here's who knew it the Russian you
00:48:40.180 don't think the Russians knew this on the
00:48:42.660 evil rolling in there in 22 the whole way
00:48:45.360 you don't think the enemies of Israel in
00:48:47.800 the United States didn't know this before
00:48:50.660 the Muslim Brotherhood moved in October of
00:48:53.060 listen don't take it from me see what you
00:48:57.000 see listen to it and just listen to it it's
00:48:59.500 an entirety on the 8th of October of 2023 we
00:49:03.760 have a record this is the day after the
00:49:07.980 attack happened that's your commander in
00:49:10.600 chief that's your commander in chief and
00:49:13.560 if he had had a prosecutor you know that
00:49:18.040 that was was getting down on it he would
00:49:23.040 have been ripped apart he'd been all over
00:49:25.020 it'd been he'd been all over the floor
00:49:26.720 they treated him they treated him like
00:49:29.080 they were a hospital they were hospital
00:49:30.400 attendance in a nursing home and Merrick
00:49:34.880 Garland correct me if I'm wrong I don't
00:49:36.420 want to bring up a sore subject but I
00:49:37.960 think I went to prison for four months on
00:49:40.300 a misdemeanor for defying a subpoena that
00:49:43.220 Merrick Garland prosecuted me personally
00:49:45.780 and didn't the Congress come to him about
00:49:48.420 this where's Merrick Garland why is Merrick
00:49:51.200 Garland not going to pay a penalty for
00:49:52.740 this why he's not going to pay a price
00:49:53.980 for this I'm not about vengeance I'm not
00:49:56.380 about come retribution that has nothing to
00:49:59.000 do with it this is about this Republic we
00:50:01.200 cannot allow this to stand everybody
00:50:04.440 associated with this has got to be called
00:50:06.760 in in question under oath we got to get
00:50:09.460 to the bottom of this how he was selected
00:50:11.560 how they bubble wrapped him what else do we
00:50:14.660 don't know they kept it from we need to
00:50:16.820 grill these people and hey if the Justice
00:50:19.380 Department can't do it and the FBI can't
00:50:21.320 do it then get a special prosecutor and
00:50:23.660 let's roll they set up our special
00:50:26.160 prosecutor for this the first time on the
00:50:28.460 classified documents against him there's a
00:50:30.680 bigger there's a much bigger story here and
00:50:32.480 I'm shocked that Merrick Garland listening
00:50:35.360 to this tape didn't he kept saying I'm
00:50:38.000 totally independent you're not independent
00:50:39.540 you're a hack and no offense he should be
00:50:41.980 charged with crimes right now of a
00:50:44.640 conspiracy to conceal this from the
00:50:46.340 American people don't take it from me
00:50:49.200 listen to the tape and write in your
00:50:51.180 calendar 8 October 2023 less than 24 hours
00:50:56.460 after the attack of the Muslim Brotherhood
00:51:00.300 Namas in Israel and this this is your
00:51:02.680 commander-in-chief this is the guy calling
00:51:04.920 the shots this is the guy making the final
00:51:06.540 you know all the movies are all down in
00:51:08.860 the situation room and you know Joe Biden
00:51:11.400 he's he knows so much and he's so much
00:51:13.760 better than Trump and Trump is so erratic
00:51:15.780 compare this in the heat of battle to
00:51:20.460 Donald Trump in the Middle East this week
00:51:23.500 do you know I kept telling you that one
00:51:26.920 of the reasons they people I used to
00:51:28.580 harpen this all the time that the people
00:51:31.400 throughout the world that the the the elites
00:51:33.940 throughout the world knew he wasn't
00:51:35.400 legitimate they didn't treat him like a
00:51:36.840 legitimate remember when he rides up in
00:51:39.240 the SUV to MBS they give the little fist
00:51:42.740 bump because they're dismissing him they
00:51:45.240 know exactly this he was placed in by the
00:51:47.340 Praetorian Guard if you want to break the
00:51:50.680 Praetorian Guard's hold on this empire
00:51:54.360 which they have the deep state the way you
00:51:58.360 break it is you use this as the instrument
00:52:00.460 you use this as the instrument and you do a
00:52:03.720 full and deep investigation you make them
00:52:06.360 lawyer up you make them spend all their
00:52:08.280 money right you strip them of all their
00:52:10.520 security clearances in the process you make
00:52:12.420 sure they're so radioactive as you as they
00:52:14.980 testify that no company will ever retain
00:52:18.140 them as consultant because that's how they
00:52:19.600 put their snout in the trough right you
00:52:22.760 toxify these people because they need to
00:52:25.720 be toxified they put this country every
00:52:29.600 parent out there that's got a kid in the
00:52:31.360 armed forces that was your commander in
00:52:33.400 chief that's your commander in chief and
00:52:36.980 everybody has said on the debate with Trump
00:52:38.740 oh he just had a bad day no that's every day
00:52:41.860 except you know the next day they juice him
00:52:44.000 up they jack him up on something for a
00:52:46.360 couple hours and Jill pats him on the
00:52:48.860 head
00:52:49.200 okay short commercial break we've got a
00:52:52.660 surprise guest we're going to try to get
00:52:54.180 cheer for you Brett you're going to stick
00:52:55.400 around you're a good foil today Brett
00:52:57.540 short break back in a moment
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