Bannon's War Room - Episode 4494： Fighting Continues Over Budget On Capitol Hill Into The Weekend

00:00:00.000 I appreciate my friend from Texas, the chairman, and, you know, there my Democratic colleagues go again, telling things that are not true.

00:00:07.120 The vast majority of Americans will get tax benefits under this bill.

00:00:10.600 It's just simply false to say that that's not true.

00:00:13.020 Hardworking Americans who will benefit from the standard deduction increase.

00:00:16.220 Hardworking Americans who will benefit from child tax credits and lower tax rates.

00:00:19.500 Stop saying things that aren't true.

00:00:21.580 Those things are true.

00:00:23.400 The fact is we have money in here for border to undo the damage of Joe Biden.

00:00:26.600 We have more money in here for the defense to undo the damage of Joe Biden.

00:00:30.580 But we also address Medicaid and Medicaid spending goes up.

00:00:34.100 Stop lying.

00:00:35.240 Medicaid spending goes up.

00:00:37.180 My colleagues on the other side of the aisle are profoundly unserious when it comes to being real about what's happening with the numbers.

00:00:42.680 I applaud Chairman Arrington.

00:00:43.880 I applaud my colleagues on this side of the aisle for taking a step forward in dealing with the spending problem in this town.

00:00:49.780 But I have to now admonish my colleagues on this side of the aisle.

00:00:52.940 This bill falls profoundly short.

00:00:55.000 It does not do what we say it does with respect to deficits.

00:00:58.300 The fact of the matter is, on the spending, what we're dealing with here on tax cuts and spending, a massive front-loaded deficit increase.

00:01:06.700 That's the truth.

00:01:08.760 That's the truth.

00:01:10.280 Deficits will go up in the first half of the 10-year budget window, and we all know it's true.

00:01:15.360 And we shouldn't do that.

00:01:17.140 We shouldn't say that we're doing something we're not doing.

00:01:19.640 The fact of the matter is, this bill has back-loaded savings and has front-loaded spending.

00:01:28.580 Nowhere near the Senate budget top line, by the way.

00:01:31.660 The Senate budget top line of $6.5 trillion, which, by the way, is what we were pre-COVID, inflation-adjusted, on interest, on Medicare and Social Security.

00:01:42.800 And if we would reform Medicaid, we could actually get to the core of the problem.

00:01:47.220 But we refuse to do it.

00:01:49.320 And I'm not going to sit here and say that everything is hunky-dory when this is the budget committee.

00:01:55.380 This is the budget committee.

00:01:56.960 We are supposed to do something to actually result in balanced budgets.

00:02:00.660 But we're not doing it.

00:02:02.300 Look at what happens under deficits.

00:02:04.240 By the way, this chart includes growth.

00:02:07.200 This chart demonstrates economic growth.

00:02:09.560 And right here, what do you see?

00:02:11.960 Baseline and the orange columns are the deficits under the House budget, assuming growth.

00:02:19.560 Only in Washington are we expected to bet on the come that in five years, then everything will work.

00:02:26.840 Then we will solve the problem.

00:02:29.340 We have got to change the direction of this town.

00:02:32.300 And to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, yes, that means touching Medicaid.

00:02:35.240 It went from $400 billion in 2019 to $600 billion this year.

00:02:39.700 It'll be over a trillion in the 2030s.

00:02:41.780 We are making promises that we cannot keep.

00:02:44.480 We do need to reform it.

00:02:45.840 We need to stop giving seven times as much money to the able-bodied over the vulnerable.

00:02:50.520 Why are we sticking it to the vulnerable population, the disabled and the sick, 1.00

00:02:54.380 to give money to single, able-bodied male adults?

00:02:57.280 We shouldn't do that.

00:02:58.500 We should reform it.

00:02:59.640 But guess what?

00:03:00.520 That message needs to be delivered to my colleagues on this side of the aisle, too.

00:03:03.800 We are writing checks we cannot cash, and our children are going to pay the price.

00:03:09.300 So I am a no on this bill unless serious reforms are made today, tomorrow, Sunday.

00:03:15.240 We're having conversations as we speak, but something needs to change, or you're not going

00:03:19.480 to get my support.

00:03:20.360 I yield back.

00:03:22.320 Okay, something did change.

00:03:23.720 We didn't get it out.

00:03:24.600 That was an impassioned speech by Chip Roy.

00:03:27.940 Chip, we got today, tomorrow, and then Sunday night.

00:03:31.760 What is going to happen, sir, to basically get this spending right, not to front-load the

00:03:37.840 spending and back-end the cuts, sir?

00:03:41.380 Well, Steve, good morning.

00:03:42.500 Yeah, I mean, we've been working.

00:03:43.620 We worked yesterday.

00:03:44.580 I'm in my office now.

00:03:45.920 We're continuing to work today.

00:03:47.180 We've got some meetings with the White House and others this afternoon.

00:03:50.640 We're working in good faith, trying to deliver.

00:03:53.240 And look, I want to be clear.

00:03:54.900 There was a lot of progress made that is reflected in the bill, okay?

00:03:58.480 Let's be honest.

00:03:59.600 There are some very good things in the bill.

00:04:02.120 But it is such a big bill with so many complexities.

00:04:04.800 I'm trying to be honest about what I'm seeing, which is that we see the front load of the tax

00:04:10.460 policy and the back load of the spending restraint.

00:04:14.020 Now, you know, we're having debates about how to square that circle between now and Sunday

00:04:18.200 night when the Budget Committee Chairman, Jody Arrington, has called us back in to vote on

00:04:23.960 this supposedly Sunday night at 10 o'clock.

00:04:26.900 I still think we've got a lot of work to do between now and then.

00:04:29.520 We're making progress on two key areas that would change the extent to which it's backloaded,

00:04:35.320 one of which, and I know you've got some views on this, and I think we share those views about

00:04:39.980 how to get there, but on Medicaid, right?

00:04:42.740 We want to make sure that the people that are the hardworking Americans, the working-class

00:04:47.120 Americans that need to be able to get access to care, especially in a post-Obamacare

00:04:50.780 world where we've screwed up the entire system and the markets, that they have access.

00:04:55.000 But we also think there ought to be work requirements that kick in immediately, because we think

00:04:59.560 that's critically important to get people back in the labor force, drive up American 1.00

00:05:03.360 workers so we're not so reliant on, you know, all these people are trying to say that we

00:05:07.280 got to import, the Chamber of Commerce people.

00:05:09.260 We don't want to do that.

00:05:10.520 So get people back to work, and then if they're working, then be able to have the benefits 0.86

00:05:14.600 that they're getting under the program.

00:05:16.680 That's critical.

00:05:17.520 And the way the bill was designed is the work requirements didn't kick in until 2029.

00:05:22.320 Well, that's ludicrous.

00:05:23.300 That's after the Trump administration.

00:05:24.960 So we're trying to move those up.

00:05:26.920 So that would front load some of the savings.

00:05:29.180 More importantly, I think it would create economic growth by getting people in the workforce.

00:05:32.700 Second point is that we're trying to deal with the Inflation Reduction Act.

00:05:36.040 The president campaigned on terminating it, ending it right out of the gate.

00:05:39.920 And the truth is, as we started peeling it back, a lot of the projects are able to go,

00:05:44.780 and a lot of the funding to all of these Green New Deal programs continue in perpetuity.

00:05:50.620 There were $400 billion worth of continued flows for all of the Green New Deal projects

00:05:55.400 that were put online that weren't even touched.

00:05:57.420 And then there was, you know, areas where new projects could start if they got started

00:06:01.620 in the next three or four years.

00:06:02.780 I was like, guys, that's not termination.

00:06:04.720 I understand we have to make some grandfathered exceptions for investments and stuff that are

00:06:09.040 attached to the grid.

00:06:10.060 But we got to terminate it.

00:06:11.520 So we're working through that today and tomorrow.

00:06:13.900 Now, those are just two variables.

00:06:16.520 There are many others that we still have to work out between now and next week.

00:06:20.540 We all want tax relief, particularly for hardworking Americans and small businesses.

00:06:24.740 But I'm not going to get put over the barrel because everybody's freaking out that we got

00:06:28.400 to deal with the taxes, especially at the top end of the bracket and so forth, if we're

00:06:32.640 not doing what we need to do on the spending side.

00:06:35.020 So that's where we are.

00:06:36.360 A lot of conversation over the next 48 hours.

00:06:38.100 I don't yet know how that's going to unfold.

00:06:39.840 We might be able to address those two issues, but there's still a lot of issues next week

00:06:44.600 still involving Medicaid, the SALT tax issue, overall tax policy, and then a lot of little

00:06:51.500 things that people are still trying to work through.

00:06:54.360 Arrington is a deficit hawk.

00:06:56.940 It's one of the reasons people felt comfortable with him stepping in and taking budget.

00:07:00.200 How did he not join this earlier, particularly like 2029?

00:07:04.820 Look, we're all for not messing with working class America's Medicaid.

00:07:10.540 They don't want to be on Medicaid.

00:07:11.780 They're there because all the good jobs have been shipped overseas.

00:07:14.480 But when you see the thing about able-bodied people, hey, it's 80 hours a month.

00:07:19.280 Come on, man.

00:07:20.460 You've got to be able to make that.

00:07:21.780 Why is we have a situation even where you're bringing something up that's in 2029?

00:07:26.440 Who supports that?

00:07:28.160 This is what's so maddening about this thing, Chip.

00:07:30.120 Yeah, agreed, Steve.

00:07:32.020 So just to level set on Jody, he's a very good friend, fellow Texan.

00:07:37.040 I think he's done a very good job trying to hold the Republican Party's feet to the fire,

00:07:41.660 who have always campaigned on tax cuts and spending cuts, tax cuts and balanced budgets,

00:07:47.580 but they've only delivered on tax cuts.

00:07:49.160 Now, you and I are both, hey, limited government, leave money in the pockets of the American people

00:07:53.440 guys, right?

00:07:54.320 But we also recognize we have massive deficits and debt that's killing the bond markets,

00:07:58.300 empowering a whole lot of people that we don't want to empower, and constricting capital

00:08:03.020 flow and slowing down the economy, and it's hurting working-class Americans.

00:08:06.380 So we need to get rid of the debt, sort of dynamically, hanging over our head, especially after the

00:08:12.380 Moody's rating downgrade yesterday to A.

00:08:15.020 You know, it's crazy.

00:08:16.640 So Jody's done a good job.

00:08:19.080 Like, I'll let him speak for himself.

00:08:20.420 I think Jody felt as the chairman that they had honored the construct of the framework

00:08:26.520 we had created.

00:08:27.760 I disagree because of the front-loading, back-loading.

00:08:30.860 And also, to me, that was just a baseline for the conversation of $1.5 trillion of spending

00:08:34.800 restraint with $2.5 trillion of assumed growth to then get the tax policy.

00:08:39.200 But I think he felt honor-bound to move that forward.

00:08:42.380 But I'll let him speak to it.

00:08:43.520 He's a good man, and we've been working together.

00:08:45.300 I mean, he's a guy that's been working on his deficit.

00:08:49.320 This, you know, Scott Bessett and President Trump's plan was to go from 6.5% budget deficit

00:08:56.420 to GDP down to 3.5%.

00:08:58.260 We would never get to balance, but let's get, we're unsustainable now.

00:09:01.480 You can't sell this many government securities.

00:09:03.280 The bond market's going to blow up.

00:09:04.760 You've got to get from 6.5% to 3.5%.

00:09:07.300 My issue here is that this, at least what we're talking about now, doesn't do that in

00:09:12.160 the first couple of years, right?

00:09:13.180 We're not bending the arc.

00:09:14.840 We're not heading down that path, at least the way my math works.

00:09:17.780 Am I correct or incorrect on the 6.5% to 3.5%?

00:09:22.060 Yeah, you are correct.

00:09:23.240 And look, here are some of my concerns.

00:09:25.260 Even if I get what I want by tomorrow on moving Medicaid requirements up in IRA, which would

00:09:30.580 improve the bill, we would still have significant concerns.

00:09:34.000 And here are some of them.

00:09:34.960 The current ways and means cost to this, what we're doing with respect to all of the tax

00:09:43.100 policy right at the outset, you're going to have another $900 billion of interest that's

00:09:49.540 not factored into the CBO score, $900 billion over that time, which needs to be offset by some

00:09:55.940 of the spending restraint, in other words, getting the deficits down.

00:09:59.400 Well, we're going to get some of that.

00:10:01.220 And if we move the Medicaid requirements up and do more on IRA, we'll do a pretty good job.

00:10:05.220 But there's still going to be more interest than we're even calculating for.

00:10:08.160 Then, Steve, if you add to that, if we're refinancing all of our interest at, say, 4% or 4.5% or 5%

00:10:14.760 instead of what currently CBO scores is 3.5%.

00:10:18.780 Do the math on that.

00:10:20.760 It's extraordinary.

00:10:22.460 That's why Scott Besson wants to get that down.

00:10:24.660 He wants to get rates down to be able to refinance the debt.

00:10:27.360 He wants the deficit as a percentage of GDP down.

00:10:30.360 And he's correct.

00:10:31.260 And Scott's a good guy.

00:10:32.220 And I think he's doing a great job on a lot of fronts.

00:10:34.320 But we've got to deliver that spending restraint.

00:10:36.960 And I think the White House is doing a good job trying to manage through this.

00:10:41.860 But we need to do it.

00:10:42.980 I think we need to be more aggressive.

00:10:44.760 To answer your question, no, we are not on a path to get to 3% or 3.5% of GDP as our deficit

00:10:53.140 unless we do more in this bill.

00:10:56.540 That's why it's got to be done now.

00:10:58.020 You can't kick the can down the road.

00:10:59.400 We've got to face reality.

00:11:00.300 You've got to get from 6.5% to 3.5%.

00:11:02.180 And then you're still not at balance.

00:11:03.760 But at least you can finance this thing.

00:11:05.880 Chip, you are working with the White House.

00:11:09.140 We can report that, that you are working with the White House to work through these issues.

00:11:13.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:11:13.820 And as you all know, Russ Vogt is a great friend.

00:11:15.900 And the great guys over there that are working with the president.

00:11:18.980 We were having conversations yesterday back and forth as, you know, Air Force One as they're

00:11:23.380 coming back over from their trip overseas.

00:11:26.520 We're fully engaged.

00:11:28.260 We want to deliver.

00:11:29.880 How that's going to play out, I'm not sure.

00:11:31.680 But I have great faith in the White House and in our team to figure this out.

00:11:35.380 Look, we have thin margins.

00:11:36.640 We have to figure out how to corral 218 individual House members.

00:11:41.040 I know the American people are frustrated.

00:11:42.700 The right to be frustrated.

00:11:44.500 We're constrained by the Senate 60-vote threshold, which we ought to be addressing.

00:11:49.260 We're constrained by, you know, we need to get, for example, you know, rescissions, get

00:11:53.400 them up and then start moving them.

00:11:54.740 But those are all things that I'm trusting the White House.

00:11:56.920 They're doing a great job on so many fronts.

00:11:59.200 We've got to give them their time.

00:12:00.280 But right now, this bill that's in front of us, we've got to work with them to deliver.

00:12:05.120 And I hope we can.

00:12:06.580 There's still a lot of variables left.

00:12:08.880 And there are some other options we might be able to deploy that I'm not going to get

00:12:11.800 into right now because I don't want to undermine what we're all trying to do to work together.

00:12:15.660 But we are working together this weekend to try to figure it out.

00:12:19.240 And right now, 10 p.m. Sunday night, Jody Arrington's called for another budget committee

00:12:23.820 vote.

00:12:24.720 That's still on track?

00:12:26.580 Correct.

00:12:27.160 Yeah, we are scheduled to reconvene 10 o'clock Sunday night.

00:12:30.280 But right now, we still have no, you know, changes yet that would change anything.

00:12:35.720 But those conversations are underway.

00:12:37.440 We made some progress yesterday.

00:12:39.000 We'll talk today and we'll see tomorrow what they want to put forward as their proposals

00:12:42.960 for the changes to see if we get over this next step.

00:12:46.500 Again, there would then be another step next week, which is what we put together in the

00:12:50.580 rules committee, whatever manager's package is put in to amend it, because it would need

00:12:53.940 to be amended for a variety of things.

00:12:56.440 And then whatever deal is struck on, say, SALT and additional Medicaid fixings.

00:13:00.280 For that whole issue where the able-bodied gets seven times more coverage than those people

00:13:07.800 who are the vulnerable and sick population.

00:13:10.320 So we've got a lot we've still got to address.

00:13:13.460 Trip, you're putting up stuff on social media all the time.

00:13:16.040 Where do they go to follow you?

00:13:17.160 Yeah, it's Chip Roy, C-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X.

00:13:21.380 That's my personal Twitter.

00:13:22.460 Rep Chip Roy is my official account, roy.house.gov.

00:13:26.780 Appreciate it, Steve.

00:13:28.000 Thanks for what you're doing.

00:13:28.960 The balance that you're providing about our need for fiscal discipline, our need for appropriate

00:13:34.020 tax relief, all in totality, managing Medicaid the right way to make sure people aren't left

00:13:40.640 behind, but still fixing the health care system and delivering on the Medicaid reform we need

00:13:44.420 to deliver on, I think is the right spot.

00:13:47.360 So we're trying to work on it.

00:13:49.480 Well, we got Russ Vogt.

00:13:50.900 You got the guys over at, you got Hassett over at NEC.

00:13:54.900 You got Navarre.

00:13:55.500 You got great people at the White House.

00:13:56.960 President Trump's got a great team over there.

00:13:59.180 You're at the tip of the spear on this over in the house, and let's work through the weekend

00:14:02.940 and get this thing done.

00:14:04.860 Thanks, Steve.

00:14:05.460 God bless.

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00:14:10.120 Stand by for some heavy rolls on this one.

00:14:13.220 But hey, you knew it was going to come down to this.

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00:17:08.440 Dave Bratt, Chip Roy, you got some charts that explain what he's talking about, sir?

00:17:13.700 Yes, sir.

00:17:16.660 And Chip is an American hero along with four or five of the other guys on that budget committee.

00:17:22.020 I was on that committee.

00:17:23.520 And that's some tough sledding when leadership comes down on your head.

00:17:27.120 But what he said is right. 0.84

00:17:28.540 It's very frustrating.

00:17:29.120 The Democrats are lying straight up every time they move their lips, right?

00:17:33.100 All political views are my own, always.

00:17:34.940 But they're just, you know, they're saying we're ripping people away from their health

00:17:38.600 care and all that.

00:17:39.100 All that's false.

00:17:40.420 But the Republican side also, we're trying to execute the Trump agenda.

00:17:44.360 And the leadership is saying we are executing the Trump agenda.

00:17:47.840 And they'll list off five or six things that are great.

00:17:50.440 But at the end of that story, we are left with $2 trillion deficits minimum moving forward.

00:17:57.180 And so let me show you, we're supposed to be getting rid of the deep state.

00:18:00.200 Like you just went off on the rant, right?

00:18:02.400 We just saw what the consequences of that deep state are in the last segment.

00:18:06.680 And that was incredible.

00:18:08.100 Now let me show you the flip side on the economic side.

00:18:10.460 Denver, if you got the first chart, this is all kind of with Moody's in mind.

00:18:15.120 And I've integrated Moody's comments on this.

00:18:18.080 But we're not talking details here, right?

00:18:20.500 When it comes to the budget, I'm just giving you the big layouts.

00:18:23.360 This is interest payments for the United States of America, the budget process over the past

00:18:27.520 30 years.

00:18:28.620 And you see at the very far right, they go up to $1.2 trillion.

00:18:33.180 According to Moody's, federal interest payments will absorb around 30% of revenues by 2035.

00:18:41.400 Right?

00:18:41.880 Let me read that again.

00:18:42.600 Federal interest payments alone will absorb around 30% of tax revenues.

00:18:48.080 All revenues coming in by 2035.

00:18:51.400 You cannot execute President Trump's agenda with that being the case.

00:18:56.320 Next chart, Denver.

00:18:57.940 Interest payments is the fastest growing component.

00:19:01.540 Moody's again.

00:19:02.740 Integrated in.

00:19:03.580 I'm going to get to them in a second.

00:19:04.960 A few comments on them.

00:19:06.200 Expect federal deficits to widen.

00:19:08.960 Reaching 9% of GDP by 2035.

00:19:14.240 Right?

00:19:14.480 So Steve's been saying every five seconds, right?

00:19:16.940 We're trying to get from 6% down to 3%.

00:19:19.580 What does Moody say in their report?

00:19:21.860 We expect federal deficits to get bigger, reaching 9% of GDP.

00:19:27.300 Not three.

00:19:28.720 Going from nine.

00:19:29.800 From six right now.

00:19:31.360 And as you see at the bottom, the fastest growing component of our budget, our interest

00:19:36.740 payments as well.

00:19:37.620 I'm going to post all these at Brad Economics on X and Getter.

00:19:41.200 Next chart, Denver.

00:19:43.620 Here we have spending now 51% higher than in 2019.

00:19:50.140 Look at that chart.

00:19:51.040 The second to last red bar is 2019.

00:19:54.840 Look at the far right.

00:19:56.260 Spending.

00:19:57.000 Spending.

00:19:57.620 Spending.

00:19:58.120 No one wants to talk about this because this is the hard part.

00:20:01.240 You won't be a popular kid.

00:20:02.660 You won't get invited to the wine and cheese circuit up in D.C.

00:20:05.440 Spending is now 51% higher than in 2019.

00:20:10.500 Why?

00:20:11.340 According to Carville and the Democrats and all the deep staters, never let a conspiracy

00:20:17.300 go to waste.

00:20:18.100 COVID came in, ratcheted things up, and we never ratchet it down.

00:20:22.240 Here's what leadership looks like.

00:20:23.520 I mentioned 60 years ago yesterday on the show.

00:20:26.860 Next chart, Denver.

00:20:28.480 Here is after World War II, right?

00:20:30.680 Spending goes up through the roof for very good reasons to defeat Hitler and the Nazis 0.99

00:20:35.160 and the fascists, the true fascists who combined big government with big business.

00:20:40.780 And look what leadership did back then under Truman and then Eisenhower and then, you know,

00:20:47.000 the New Deal and Great Society kicked in and spending starts going up.

00:20:50.840 But that's leadership.

00:20:52.480 They didn't keep the spending when they could have.

00:20:54.480 It went down.

00:20:55.500 That's what we need to do right now.

00:20:57.320 So Moody's timing, next chart, I think people know.

00:21:02.000 We mentioned it yesterday on the show.

00:21:03.240 Moody's didn't do the downgrade after the 07-08 financial crisis.

00:21:07.420 Instead, I could cover this more.

00:21:09.800 They had to do a big payout for ethics violations.

00:21:13.420 But that blue line below, the blue line at the bottom is the 07-08 stock market reality,

00:21:20.340 which is fairly dismal.

00:21:21.320 And then above it is the current state of affairs.

00:21:25.260 And they do a downgrade then.

00:21:27.840 And so last, here's for Steve to get Steve's blood pressure up.

00:21:30.900 Last chart.

00:21:32.040 What's the result?

00:21:33.000 This is from yesterday.

00:21:34.520 After the Moody's result, long-end treasuries up five basis points.

00:21:39.680 This is a little bit of chart abuse by the person who made it.

00:21:43.100 But they're going up.

00:21:44.400 They're not going down.

00:21:45.240 And that's a message for Congress.

00:21:46.700 And thanks to my friends, Dave Ramaswamy and Boyan Mitrakiyev, for some great charts.

00:21:52.360 The 10-year treasuries is, what, four, roughly four and a half close to it.

00:21:57.500 You just got to watch that.

00:21:58.640 If you can sell these, what you hope is, don't have the inflation Biden left us to get even worse.

00:22:04.620 And President Trump's doing everything on the supply chain.

00:22:06.560 Dave, we got to bounce.

00:22:07.560 Where do people get these charts over the weekend?

00:22:09.300 We'll get you back on Monday because I'm sure this is going to be explosive over the weekend, folks.

00:22:13.200 I'm going to be up on social media.

00:22:14.440 Dave is.

00:22:14.820 And the reality is, yep.

00:22:16.700 The realities I just put up are not going away.

00:22:19.140 That's why I want them in the heads of the war room. 0.95

00:22:21.100 Brad Economics on Getter and on X today.

00:22:24.480 Okay.

00:22:25.560 And June 15th, less than 30 days from today, will be the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the golden escalator.

00:22:32.860 Everybody remembers that.

00:22:33.700 That was 10 years ago.

00:22:34.720 Awesome.

00:22:35.140 Okay.

00:22:35.560 I say this is the preamble for the Trump revolution that we're hitting now of all these major, you know, converging crises and dealing with it.

00:22:42.840 But what Dave Brad's saying, that went by in a flash, right?

00:22:46.180 What Dave Brad's saying 10 years from now on this current trajectory, one-third of all tax revenues just goes to pay the interest.

00:22:53.180 Not a penny of debt.

00:22:54.180 No weapons.

00:22:55.240 No schools.

00:22:56.100 No health care.

00:22:56.920 Nothing.

00:22:57.780 A third, in a flash of an eye, a third of all proceeds are going to pay for the interest, folks.

00:23:04.560 Dave Brad, social media one more time.

00:23:06.260 Where do you go?

00:23:07.700 Yep.

00:23:08.060 Brad Economics on Getter and on X.

00:23:10.460 And all you need to do is keep a few of these facts in mind.

00:23:13.420 It doesn't take many.

00:23:14.740 The four or five facts I gave you, those are not going away.

00:23:18.500 They're not going away.

00:23:19.460 Go read the charts now.

00:23:20.540 We'll be up all weekend on social media.

00:23:22.120 Thank you, sir.

00:23:22.640 Appreciate you.

00:23:23.800 Great.

00:23:24.300 You bet.

00:23:24.540 Let's go to St. Peter's Square.

00:23:26.000 Tomorrow the Pope has his mass.

00:23:27.620 Basically, he's been the Pope since the moment the conclave said it, but tomorrow is kind of the official investiture.

00:23:33.780 Ben Harnwell, your thoughts are where we stand with Leo XIV.

00:23:39.300 Well, good morning, Steve.

00:23:40.840 We stand in great difficulty.

00:23:43.240 Right here, the piazza behind me, you see the Vatican over my shoulder.

00:23:46.540 That's where it kicks off at 10 a.m. tomorrow.

00:23:49.100 Pope Leo XIV will start the ceremony down by the tomb of St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, praying for guidance and support as he begins his ministry.

00:24:01.100 And then in the mass itself, there'll be the two key moments where the pallium is imposed.

00:24:06.440 And that's like the white sort of like a scarf thing of lambswool that goes over the neck and goes down.

00:24:12.260 And then you'll get the fisherman's ring as well.

00:24:14.520 But the secular press will call this an investiture mass.

00:24:19.100 Or an inauguration mass.

00:24:20.580 It's really neither.

00:24:21.460 It's the mass that marks the start of the Petrine ministry.

00:24:27.660 The Pope is the Pope to all, to the full authority of his office from the moment he said, I accept in the conclave.

00:24:36.900 This is basically just a ceremony.

00:24:38.860 But in terms of power, Steve, in terms of secular power, this, I think, is when the world, or at least the world's Catholics, believe, okay, so now he's the Pope.

00:24:48.040 There were about 250,000 people expected sort of right in the piazza and the Via della Conciliazione going down to the river here.

00:24:58.600 And you're going to ask me, well, you know, what is that harm?

00:25:00.840 Well, is that a lot of people?

00:25:02.060 Is it not a lot of people has compared to the past?

00:25:04.240 Well, I'll just simply flag up this, that for Benedict XVI in 2025, when he was elected, they had 350,000 people.

00:25:17.760 So you're going to say to me, well, what's the difference?

00:25:19.500 There's 100,000 more people 20 years ago.

00:25:22.620 Now, what conclusions do you draw from that?

00:25:24.580 And I'll tell you that the turnouts for these things, Steve, it's a barometer on the state of the health, the state of the health of the church.

00:25:33.860 And that's because after, was it, 28 years or something of John Paul II, the church, for all his faults, and he had a number of them.

00:25:41.760 We saw many of them come to fruition under the papacy of Pope Francis.

00:25:47.840 But for all his faults, the church was engaged and vibrant.

00:25:51.820 So when Benedict was elected, there were so many people.

00:25:57.220 Now, after 12 years of bitterness, division, and many faithful Catholics getting kicked in the face, there's a great sense of disillusionment.

00:26:08.220 Disillusionment, the palpable sentiment right now, perhaps I'll finish this after the break, Steve, because I've got a few points to make.

00:26:14.480 But the palpable sentiment I feel right now in the piazza behind me is one of relief.

00:26:23.220 What about, what about, we got about a minute, a little over a minute, I want you to say, what about the traditional Catholics?

00:26:29.080 All the fights we had with Bergoglio, Sinality, the kind of pagan worship they were bringing in, where do we stand with all that? 0.99

00:26:35.760 Steve, well, there was a great article yesterday, it's a vanity fair, I think.

00:26:40.420 You and Posse were covered generously in that article.

00:26:45.020 The key takeaway of that, and I will deep dig down on this after the break, is this pivot that so-called traditional Catholics made within 24 hours of Leo's election.

00:26:57.840 First they were extremely preoccupied, now they're embracing it, and there's a reason for that, and the Warren Posse needs to know what that reason is.

00:27:06.640 And that's because it's all about the grift, Steve, that's going on in this huge apparatus that surrounds the Catholic Church.

00:27:13.820 It's all about the grift.

00:27:15.040 But I'll dig into that, if I may, just after this break.

00:27:17.660 I think you see now that one of the reasons I say he's going to be selected, the New York Times got a great piece this morning.

00:27:25.380 It talks about kind of the process of him entering the priesthood, Peru, all of it.

00:27:30.920 But he was selected by, it's very clear by the New York Times, he was selected by Bergoglio.

00:27:35.080 Bergoglio saw him a couple of years ago and didn't agree with everything that he had to say,

00:27:39.980 but saw him as a comrade in arms in taking forward Bergoglio's program.

00:27:44.800 That's why he's been a cardinal less than two years.

00:27:48.260 And I will tell you the possibility that someone has been a cardinal less than two years that was not very well known to the American cardinals.

00:27:56.080 In fact, they continue to say he's the least American of all of them, and none of them really knew the guy.

00:28:01.140 Not that well known throughout the world, although he did work in the dicastery to pick the archbishops.

00:28:06.080 To be selected on the third ballot, no, I'm not buying it.

00:28:10.480 Just like I didn't buy the 2020 election.

00:28:12.380 Short break. Ben Harnwell next.

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00:29:32.420 Okay, Ben Harnwell joins us.

00:29:34.400 Ben, you're talking about the grift and the trads.

00:29:38.220 I don't normally associate those two, but what's happening here?

00:29:44.160 Well, Vanity Fair, Steve, did a great favor, great courtesy to traditional Catholicism, to true traditional Catholics by publishing this article yesterday.

00:29:52.980 I don't know if you put the thing up again as I'm talking, and I'm going to link to this, obviously, on Rumble.

00:29:57.840 Everyone needs to see this.

00:29:58.960 This is Vanity Fair saying this, okay?

00:30:00.840 It's not Harnwell.

00:30:02.160 Basically, the thesis is, and it's absolutely true, within 24 hours of Leo's election, Cardinal Prevost's election, all the trads came out saying,

00:30:11.320 oh, no, this is terrible, it's catastrophic for our cause.

00:30:14.460 And then they pivoted within 24 hours, and Vanity Fair does chapter and verse.

00:30:19.500 Why is this taking place?

00:30:21.060 Well, it's because of this phenomenon that I like to call traditional Catholic ink, okay? 0.59

00:30:27.260 These are the grifters.

00:30:28.380 You can see them here.

00:30:29.220 You can see all the people that have been taking down their tweets, closing down their YouTube film footage.

00:30:34.920 These are the people, Warren Posse, don't go anywhere near them.

00:30:38.940 They're not telling you the truth.

00:30:41.100 You mentioned, Steve, the New York Times article this morning.

00:30:44.020 I'm going to link to that as well.

00:30:45.720 It does indicate that, by the way, you stitched the whole thing up.

00:30:48.920 If you don't believe me, go down to the section of this article.

00:30:52.340 It's called the Vatican Fast Track.

00:30:54.960 It lays it all out.

00:30:56.740 Bergoglio asked one of his colleagues, if I name Prevost as head of the office for bishops, how do you think he will do?

00:31:02.660 And the priest responds, I think he'll do very well.

00:31:06.320 Francis says, I think he'll do very well, too.

00:31:08.100 So this was the plot.

00:31:09.860 So you've got to ask yourself, if Bergoglio was so gung-ho in getting this guy in his pope, why are all the so-called traditionalist Catholics, why are half of them going in and pushing Leo, saying, let's give the guy a chance?

00:31:24.080 He wore the red mozzetta on the balcony.

00:31:27.880 Surely he's going to be traditional.

00:31:29.080 The point is, Stephen, I wish I had more time to build on this.

00:31:32.500 I'll lay it out now.

00:31:33.700 I'll go into it in more detail on another occasion.

00:31:36.520 The truth is this.

00:31:37.760 For Catholic organizations, under 12 years of Bergoglio, the donations went down through the floor.

00:31:44.220 So all of these organizations, if they have the word Catholic in them, run for your lives, okay, all they could do if they were on the conservative side of the spectrum was weakly go through the emotions, performatively opposing Bergoglio.

00:31:57.080 Now that they've got someone in who's rather more subtle, they've realized within 25 hours, hang on, we're doing ourselves injustice here.

00:32:06.280 We've got to tell our gullible benefactors and donors that this guy is our new hope.

00:32:12.080 We've got to get that money coming back in.

00:32:14.140 So, folks, you're going to see division in MAGA.

00:32:16.220 Vanity Fair pointed this out.

00:32:17.860 They're absolutely right.

00:32:18.840 You're going to see a division in Catholic MAGA between the grifters. 0.92

00:32:22.620 And I have to say this, Steve, the war room transmission has been constant from the get-go.

00:32:29.740 We've told the truth.

00:32:31.120 We said there was no mourning for Francis.

00:32:33.980 We warned about Prevost.

00:32:35.560 And we're going to continue this analysis.

00:32:38.620 This is also 10 days before the conclave how I picked Prevost because I could see what the fix was in.

00:32:44.300 They were going to get someone ideologically.

00:32:45.640 They had a guy that nobody really knew, ideologically tied to Bergoglio.

00:32:50.260 Plus, he was American enough that the big donors would feel like, oh, I can get access and get a papal blessing and all the things big donors want.

00:32:58.040 They could get the American money again.

00:32:59.400 It was only the dramatic drop in American cash that put the fear of God in these people, right?

00:33:06.560 Because they knew that the liquidity problem the Vatican has.

00:33:10.160 So we'll cover it tomorrow as the mass.

00:33:12.520 And then we'll have you back on Monday and go through more of this in depth.

00:33:15.140 But you're 100% correct.

00:33:16.060 Nothing's changed.

00:33:16.840 In fact, Bergoglio and these guys, the radicals, got exactly the perfect Manchurian candidate, as we say. 0.85

00:33:23.300 And we ain't changing one bit.

00:33:25.680 Ben Harnwell, where do people go to follow you and particularly all the insights you're putting up and all the stories you're going to be putting up from the media about this entire situation?

00:33:36.560 Steve, I'm exclusively on Getter, my social media platform of choice.

00:33:40.980 Just tap in at Harnwell, and there I am with my analysis.

00:33:44.580 Thanks, Steve.

00:33:45.060 God bless.

00:33:46.240 Thank you very much.

00:33:47.660 Appreciate you.

00:33:50.020 You know, the other day I was misinformed.

00:33:53.420 I thought the great Patrick Wood had actually had his demise.

00:33:56.940 We did not.

00:33:57.640 He had gotten ill, but turns out he turned it around.

00:33:59.900 Patrick Wood joins us.

00:34:01.040 Patrick, the reason that you were back in the discussion is everything that you've taught us about technocracy, and particularly one of the guys that took that radical idea from the 1930s when it was developed under FDR and with these technocrats and really kind of drove it forward.

00:34:17.880 That was Dr. Brzezinski, this new book out with Ed Luce.

00:34:21.940 Talk to us about it.

00:34:23.020 Talk to us about technocracy.

00:34:24.460 Well, first off, how are you doing?

00:34:25.500 Now, everybody welcomes you back and wants to ensure I was actually shocked when somebody said, I think it was Joe Allen, said, hey, Patrick's alive and well.

00:34:36.500 So how are you doing?

00:34:41.040 I'm really doing good, Steve.

00:34:43.720 We have a lot of followers in common, you know, and I got immediately, I got texts telling me that I was dead.

00:34:52.540 And so, you know, I was like, well, I think I'm still here.

00:34:59.560 But I did have a stroke.

00:35:00.900 Like Lazarus.

00:35:02.080 I did have a stroke two years ago, and I had a heart attack as well.

00:35:05.800 And I came through that, and I'm glad to be here, certainly.

00:35:10.100 It was a miracle.

00:35:11.480 Even the doctor said they did not expect me to recover at all, that here I am.

00:35:16.620 So I'm still in the game, and I'm on the trail of technocracy and transhumanism.

00:35:24.460 And I'll probably be that way until I do die.

00:35:28.340 So here you go.

00:35:29.540 The developments that have happened, and particularly this new biography of Brzezinski, talk to me about technocracy and transhumanism.

00:35:37.680 Where do you think we stand right now?

00:35:39.220 AI is moving down a path, which is only one part of transhumanism, but much more rapidly, I think, people anticipate it, sir.

00:35:48.160 It really is.

00:35:49.000 By the time that Trump is out of office, by the way, probably the power of AI, the capability of AI, is going to increase probably 10,000 to 15,000 times where it is right now.

00:36:05.080 This is the trajectory that AI is on right now.

00:36:09.580 So we probably are very, very close to AGI.

00:36:13.620 That's general intelligence.

00:36:15.920 And, you know, at this point, all bets are off.

00:36:19.880 Really, hardly anybody understands what AI is capable of doing.

00:36:26.200 It's sweeping the federal government at this point, and that's very disturbing to me.

00:36:31.600 But this is AI is the pinnacle of weapon development for technocrats around the world, and they're using it with great efficiently at this point.

00:36:43.600 And so you see people like Sam Altman, for instance, getting rid of the safety teams and stuff.

00:36:52.480 This is happening all over the industry because they're all racing forward to get the big prize.

00:36:58.780 How dangerous is it?

00:37:03.820 Like, I keep telling people there's more regulation if you want to open a nail salon on Capitol Hill or a hair braiding salon.

00:37:12.060 You have to go through more regulations than Altman and Musk and these other folks for AI.

00:37:18.320 What's your assessment of that?

00:37:19.860 There's been a concerted effort over the years to relax or remove regulations for this whole sector of AI, but not just them in particular, but others as well.

00:37:36.320 But when AI at this point can escape scrutiny from the Congress and other state legislators around the country, you know something bad is going to happen because we need this political insight.

00:37:54.000 We also see this technocrat class, they're anti-politician at all in the first place because we saw this in the 1930s where the technocrats of that day hated politicians.

00:38:12.060 And we see this sentiment today.

00:38:15.820 And so, you know, Congress is being kind of neutered right now over this issue of are we going to let them go or not?

00:38:25.420 And we'll see.

00:38:27.140 I think it's very dangerous personally.

00:38:31.120 What's your recommendation?

00:38:32.620 What do you think?

00:38:33.260 You're saying that in the march to AGI is going to be 10,000 to 15,000 times more powerful.

00:38:39.780 That means it's going to be an overwhelming force in the next couple of years.

00:38:45.620 Do you think society is ready for that?

00:38:47.460 Is this constitutional republic ready for that?

00:38:50.020 Are the citizens of the United States, MAGA, are the deplorables ready for that?

00:38:54.000 They're not.

00:38:55.160 They have no clue.

00:38:56.120 But by and large, they have no clue.

00:38:58.200 But conservative estimates at this point that AI is like doubling in its prowess every four months or so.

00:39:09.780 You just double that and, you know, well, in four months, it'll be double from now.

00:39:17.140 Then eight, another four months after that, it's going to go to eight and so on.

00:39:23.800 Well, this doubling process, it catches up with you at some point.

00:39:28.220 And you're right.

00:39:29.400 It's going to be overwhelming for most people to understand what's going on.

00:39:33.920 So for some people, it's going to appear like magic, honestly, but they won't have no way will they understand at all.

00:39:42.400 But our legislators at this point are really clueless what's going on.

00:39:46.480 And, you know, the people that have trusted, for instance, Elon Musk with his Doge effort, well, AI is all of a sudden in the picture.

00:39:58.960 Whether you like it or not, it's going to be set in place in stone in our government operation top to bottom.

00:40:07.400 And who's the watchdog?

00:40:10.440 There isn't any at this point.

00:40:12.420 Who watches the watchman?

00:40:14.300 I think I may have my numbers wrong, but I think I'm close.

00:40:16.960 Microsoft is at 3% of the workforce.

00:40:20.360 They're talking about laying off 3% of the workforce.

00:40:22.580 Yes.

00:40:22.960 30%.

00:40:23.520 Anyway, Microsoft's having a big layoff.

00:40:26.020 30% of the layoffs are because of AI directly.

00:40:30.280 And this is my whole thing about H-1B visas now, that we've got to get up on H-1B visas because it's quite evident AI, as we predicted, is going to cut through at least the entry-level coding jobs very rapidly.

00:40:43.680 Your thoughts, are we prepared at all for the restructuring of basically the economy, particularly the tech economy, around fewer individuals and more AI, sir?

00:40:54.620 No, there's no way that we can be prepared because it's coming, and how do you prepare for something that you can't change?

00:41:04.520 Mark Andreessen, he is one of the tech bros that helped Trump select a lot of these technocrats that came into the administration.

00:41:14.560 Mark Andreessen, just a few weeks ago, unbelievably, he's supposed to be a MAGA guy, right?

00:41:19.920 At least he's pretending to be.

00:41:21.540 He said that wages are going to crash because of AI.

00:41:29.680 What does that mean for the American people?

00:41:33.060 Wages are going to crash because of AI?

00:41:36.560 That's pretty serious stuff.

00:41:38.680 Well, this is exactly what is going to happen.

00:41:41.260 A sales force, for instance, a giant company, they just recently said, we're not going to hire any more people because AI is taking the slack.

00:41:50.340 So we don't need any more programmers at that point.

00:41:54.220 And, well, you see the handwriting is on the wall.

00:41:57.540 This whole business with robotics right now, this is another issue that we have to confront because robots are coming to a town square near you at this point.

00:42:10.980 And it's going to be overwhelming when people see these robots walking around with a brain and they're intermingling with people, telling people, whatever, you know, have a nice day.

00:42:24.300 Yeah.

00:42:25.380 Microsoft actually said 30 percent of their code as of now is written by AI.

00:42:29.180 Patrick, welcome back.

00:42:31.480 Lazarus.

00:42:32.040 And where do people go?

00:42:33.680 Social media and website to get all your books and writings.

00:42:36.520 You bet.

00:42:37.460 Technocracy.news.

00:42:38.760 That's Technocracy News and Trends where I have the news.

00:42:42.220 And also I predict trends as well.

00:42:44.360 That's my main function at this point.

00:42:47.120 And I'm on Twitter as well.

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00:44:50.320 Okay, we had George Simeon on last night for his last appearance before the quiet day in Romania,

00:44:55.120 which is started the campaign today.

00:44:56.700 Voting starts tomorrow at 7 a.m.

00:44:58.500 Scarlett Karaleva, a top young independent journalist, is there on the ground in Romania.

00:45:03.760 Ma'am, why is this election so important?

00:45:08.160 Tomorrow the future of Romania will be decided because there's one thing that's very clear that I've observed here.

00:45:14.360 People are fed up with the current system.

00:45:17.420 They want to have change.

00:45:19.600 And to explain to you why these elections are so important, I will need to give you a little bit of the background information,

00:45:26.080 which I haven't heard in any other analysis.

00:45:28.380 It's, for example, that after the fall of communism in 1989, when Ceaușescu was murdered,

00:45:35.300 Romania never actually became sovereign.

00:45:37.580 What happened is that the second layer of the Communist Party took over, and they took over everything,

00:45:44.220 all of the minerals, because Romania is incredibly, incredibly rich in terms of minerals, oil, gas.

00:45:50.200 And to pack it in a nice way, they now are part of NATO and of the European Union.

00:45:56.280 So you've got, you know, the bureaucracy of Brussels on top of that as well.

00:46:00.180 And at the same time, Romania is still being governed by those communists.

00:46:05.040 They're still not sovereign.

00:46:06.320 Their economy is incredibly bad.

00:46:09.180 Actually, they paid in three months' time 12.5 billion late.

00:46:12.520 It's 2.5 billion euros just on the interest of the debt that they have.

00:46:18.320 And there's a massive brain drain that they had as a result of entering the European Union.

00:46:22.960 My age, you don't see them around here.

00:46:25.560 The young people have left. 1.00

00:46:26.940 You only see old people and you see children. 0.99

00:46:30.380 And this is also reflected, for example, in the diaspora, the people outside of Romania that voted.

00:46:35.140 They voted for George Simeon because they want to come back home.

00:46:38.060 They want to rebuild their country.

00:46:39.760 They've seen that in Europe there's no future.

00:46:42.280 They want to come back home and rebuild Romania. 0.98

00:46:44.660 So this is why the elections are important for the Romanians.

00:46:47.600 This is their moment to get their country back and to actually become sovereign.

00:46:51.760 And the second reason why these elections are so important is because it's not just irrelevant for Romania, but also for the rest of Europe.

00:47:00.020 George Simeon has done an incredible campaign going through the different countries in Europe.

00:47:04.040 He met with George Amelone.

00:47:05.360 He's meeting with, hopefully, the next future president of Poland, Nawrowski.

00:47:10.600 And imagine what that will do in Brussels when there's, like, a strong conservative bloc that can actually counterbalance the Eurofederalists, like von der Leyen, that we're dealing with.

00:47:22.640 Then we can make a change.

00:47:23.940 Then we can make Europe great again.

00:47:26.060 And then we can go back to a nation that has Christianity at the heart of it, that puts family first, that puts God first.

00:47:33.400 And with that, we don't make just Eurograde, but we can make the Westgrade again.

00:47:38.320 Scarlett, where do people go?

00:47:39.900 We'll have you on Monday, but we're going to be following this on social media tomorrow.

00:47:43.320 Where do people go to follow you on social media while you're there?

00:47:45.820 Because we know you're very close to the inner circle of this populist nationalist sovereignty campaign.

00:47:52.020 So where do people go?

00:47:54.680 Yeah, quickly to brief on why I'm here is to really make sure that the elections are happening in a fair way.

00:48:00.060 We need to keep in mind that only the people of Romania should go to the ballot and decide who is actually going to be their leader.

00:48:08.380 Just a little quick example, and then I'll move on.

00:48:11.760 Yesterday in Moldova, the people could go and vote as well.

00:48:14.980 I tell you what, Scarlett, we're really jammed for time.

00:48:17.580 I just need your social media.

00:48:18.740 We'll follow you on social media because we're really backed up with a couple of things.

00:48:22.020 What's social media?

00:48:24.300 You can follow me on x at Skaraleva.

00:48:27.200 Thank you very much.

00:48:28.120 Look forward to following you, ma'am.

00:48:29.340 Great summary.

00:48:31.480 Of course, they're going to try to steal it.

00:48:33.600 Paper ballots and all.

00:48:34.600 One day voting.

00:48:35.380 That's where we've got to be on point in Romania.

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Bannon's War Room - May 17, 2025

Episode 4494： Fighting Continues Over Budget On Capitol Hill Into The Weekend

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