Bannon's War Room - Episode 4499： Inside The Wildest Battle For The White House

00:00:00.000 we've had ever in the history of this country and that's because of the actions of this president

00:00:05.500 who delivered on his promise to secure the border and enforce our laws. But if Congress fails to act

00:00:14.560 this success will be short-lived. I'm proud of the Committee on Homeland Security's work to

00:00:20.100 include common sense border security legislation. That is a generational opportunity to actually

00:00:27.420 secure our border. We've tried so many times in the past. Now we will codify these executive actions

00:00:34.420 and we will do our job in Congress and resource this effort. Seven billion dollars to recruit and

00:00:42.940 train new border agents. Billions of dollars to fix to build the wall and it's a high-tech lights,

00:00:50.360 cameras, access to observe. Five billion in technology enhancements. All the support that

00:00:58.620 we can give to the border states. We're going to expand Operation Stone Garden. Those grants for

00:01:04.260 those states that actually work with the Department of Homeland Security to secure our border. All in

00:01:09.420 this bill. All because the American people said enough is enough and all because they elected

00:01:15.020 Donald Trump and a Republican Congress. I now will be followed by one of my mentors and heroes in this

00:01:22.200 building, Jim Jordan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know why the Democrats dislike this bill so much?

00:01:29.780 Because it's so darn Republican. Does three fundamental, embraces three fundamental Republican 0.81

00:01:35.440 principles. Cut taxes, secures the border, requires work. We're the party that believes you should let mom 0.95

00:01:41.300 and dads keep more of their money to chase down their goals and dreams. We're the party that believes

00:01:45.540 you should actually have a secure border. This bill does it as Chairman Green just pointed out. And

00:01:50.620 we're the party that believes able-bodied adults, if they're going to get your money, should have to

00:01:55.600 work. It's good for taxpayers. It's good for the economy. Most importantly, it's good for that

00:02:01.060 individual. This bill embraces three fundamental principles of our party. That's why I think it's

00:02:06.920 really important that Republicans lean in and go tell the American people how important this legislation

00:02:12.200 is, how it keeps faith with what we told the voters we were going to do last November, why they elected

00:02:18.740 us, and it's right on point. So I'm confident we're going to get there this week, get the votes that we

00:02:25.540 need to get this thing passed, because it does the things we said we were going to do. And with that,

00:02:29.840 I yield to the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee Chairman Smith. Thank you, Jim. President

00:02:37.080 Trump promised and delivered, and now the House will, too. The one big, beautiful bill stops the

00:02:43.820 largest tax increase in history and focuses benefits on workers, families, farmers, and small businesses.

00:02:52.600 It unleashes made-in-America manufacturing and delivers on President Trump's promise to all

00:02:59.420 American workers. This is an economic growth agenda combined with historic spending reforms that

00:03:06.620 protects those in need and puts America on a path to a better future. $140 billion in your tax dollars

00:03:17.540 shouldn't go to illegal immigrants who have broken the law. Instead, Republicans are putting that money

00:03:25.420 towards no tax on tips and no tax on overtime. Fortunately, 77 million Americans have already

00:03:33.780 weighed in. We're going to deliver on the President's promises, and we're going to help working and

00:03:39.740 middle-class Americans. This is very personal for me. I grew up in a single-wide trailer in a town of

00:03:46.740 less than 5,000 people. The average income in my hometown is just over $24,000. My priority is the working class. That is the 0.90

00:03:59.060 priority of President Trump, and that is the priority of the Republican Party. And this bill delivers for them. My

00:04:06.120 neighbors back home and hard-working families and communities, just like in Salem, Missouri, and all across the

00:04:13.140 United States. According to the Council of Economic Advisors, the no tax on tips policy alone will lead to an

00:04:23.300 additional $1,700 in the pockets of each of the 4 million different tipped employees working in communities

00:04:32.880 throughout this nation. Family take-home pay will increase up to $13,300 under the one big, beautiful bill.

00:04:43.120 And the same study showed that tax relief for seniors, meanwhile, would increase the average

00:04:50.240 take-home pay for qualifying seniors by approximately $450 per year. I'm proud to say we're taking the

00:04:58.240 President's promise and going even farther by delivering even greater benefits for them. I've

00:05:05.380 said it before, and I'll say it again. Failure is not an option. We have to deliver for the American

00:05:12.020 people. Pleased to turn over to Whip Emmer. Thanks, Jason. Yeah, I can't listen to Tom.

00:05:18.340 This week, House Republicans face a historic moment. Particularly since he did such a good job

00:05:23.020 whipping. The President of the United States had to go up to Capitol Hill. Do your job, bro.

00:05:28.900 Okay, so we're going to see. Andy Clyde just told you. The President made his case. There's still some

00:05:34.500 folks that are talking about deficits or Medicaid. We'll see how hard they stick and what happens today.

00:05:39.120 Everything you heard was positive. Even Andy Harris said, we're going to get there. We may not get

00:05:44.640 there tomorrow. So we'll see. Right now, state of play is that they've scheduled a... I love this.

00:05:52.720 They've scheduled a rules vote at 1 o'clock in the morning. That shows you... And here's... Look,

00:05:58.080 with everything at stake, what they're doing is holding out, leaving early for Memorial Day weekend.

00:06:04.200 Right? Memorial Day break. I think they're gone for two weeks or a week or so after this. So they want

00:06:08.760 to hold that out. That's what they're going to do at 1am and try to jam this vote in sometime on

00:06:13.560 Wednesday or Thursday or do the 72-hour thing that you got to do is to get the vote Wednesday,

00:06:19.160 Thursday and get the hell out of Dodge, right? Yeah. They had a year. They've had a year to get

00:06:23.400 everyone on board a great bill. And it always comes down to the last minute. And I don't like it.

00:06:28.680 When you're up at 1am, the pressure on you, I cannot tell you at home what it's like. It is

00:06:37.320 a huge responsibility on your shoulders. And you're trying... You heard all the great things in this

00:06:43.400 bill. And it is a Republican bill. That is... That's all true. But it's easy to...

00:06:48.280 But Jim Jordan said there's three things. There's... What is the... There's tax cuts.

00:06:53.800 There's border control. Border control. And there's work. He never mentioned deficits or

00:06:59.480 spending once. They don't want to touch spending. You get... Andy Clyde, the buried leader Clyde is

00:07:04.200 that, hey, when Dave Brett said, what does your constituents say? Right. Hold the line. Hold the line.

00:07:08.840 People out there understand the spending, federal spending is burying them alive. Yeah. With inflation

00:07:15.480 and crowding out of capital. Now these interest rates, interest expenses are starting to explode. People get it.

00:07:22.680 Yeah. And particularly since the War Room and other shows now are going out of their way to say,

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00:08:02.600 with the IRS directly and figure it out. Dave Brett, pretty historic morning so far.

00:08:07.480 Yeah, it's great. We're on the verge of it. It doesn't take a lot to get the holdouts to a yes,

00:08:14.760 but it's what you just said, right? It's a Republican bill. It all sounds like a Republican

00:08:19.000 bill, but the one orthodoxy pieces were supposed to be shrinking the size of especially the federal

00:08:24.920 government, right? And that's the doozy. All that $7 trillion that goes through the spending spigots

00:08:32.360 is going through lobbyists when it goes up here, right? We all remember the old Obama infrastructure,

00:08:39.960 capital investments, right? Oh, this was great. We're going to finally do capital on the Democrats.

00:08:44.060 You're saying during the implosion in 2008. Yeah. Shovel ready. Shovel ready. It was 10%,

00:08:50.120 I think. Ended up going to the actual construction projects. It was a disaster. Disaster. And when

00:08:55.800 Republicans are in charge, I'm not cheerleading for them 100%. A lot of that money is going to leak

00:09:01.460 through the lobbyists and through the swamp and through the firms that funnel all that money to

00:09:06.740 their friends, right? Whenever you hear all these beautiful stories about this is going to happen

00:09:12.100 and that's going to happen, if the American people aren't doing it themselves, be a little leery.

00:09:17.460 And so I'm still quite leery. Okay. You've got all the facts. Folks right now should get bill blaster.

00:09:22.500 Get on with your house rep and let them know what you think. If you think that more cuts have got to

00:09:28.980 come, then say it. If you think, hey, let's wrap this thing up and do it, then say that.

00:09:34.100 Right now, our fear is that the cuts, structural cuts, which I think are very smart, Russ Post put

00:09:38.980 it, is in the back end, years five through 10. Yeah. We're not a big believer in that they ever

00:09:44.260 come to fruition, right? Although, quote unquote, they're going to be mandatory. You've got to address

00:09:47.940 these deficits down front. I think people are trying to. Like Andy Harris said, hey, we're going to get

00:09:53.060 there. It may not be today, but we'll see. They're forcing tonight, 1 a.m. on tomorrow

00:09:59.620 morning, 1 a.m., a rules vote. The manager's amendment has to come. The only changes to this

00:10:05.060 bill will be in the manager's amendment. Yeah. So that means if it's on track, you've got to get

00:10:09.940 a lot of work done in the next couple hours. You've got to really meet and have some agreements.

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00:10:33.940 Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot. Glenn Story and the team. These guys have kept Texas MAGA. I mean,

00:10:41.140 President Trump won by 14 points. There should be no discussion. That thing that's happened in

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00:10:48.420 bit of this going on, too. My friends are telling me that. Georgia, all of it. Down South Carolina,

00:10:52.660 hey. It's not good. It's never. Listen, for the precinct strategy and MAGA and you guys got involved,

00:10:57.860 I don't need to tell you. You get beat up every day. Some's worse than other. And I got to tell you,

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00:15:06.660 today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. You're an oncologist, obviously,

00:15:12.060 incredibly respected. You believe that it is likely, just for those just tuning in, you believe

00:15:22.300 it is likely if this prostate cancer has spread to the bone that he could have had it for up to a

00:15:30.920 decade. But certainly it's likely. Would it be fair to say it's likely to have had this for at least

00:15:39.380 several years? Oh, more than several years. You don't get prostate cancer.

00:15:46.160 Again, I just want to stop you. So this is not speculation. If you have prostate cancer

00:15:52.760 that is spread to the bone, then he's most certainly, you are saying, had it when he was

00:15:59.140 president of the United States. Oh, yeah. He did not develop it in the last 100, 200 days.

00:16:06.420 He had it while he was president. He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.

00:16:14.600 Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.

00:16:18.700 It's given to everybody, but it's given just about. And it takes a long time to get to that

00:16:23.340 situation. Now, I think, you know, to get to a stage nine, I think that if you take a look,

00:16:29.880 it's the same doctor that said that Joe was cognitively fine. There was nothing wrong with

00:16:35.540 him. Well, he said, if it's the same doctor, he said there was nothing wrong there. And that's

00:16:40.480 being proven to be a sad situation. And the auto pen is becoming a very big deal. You know,

00:16:46.460 the auto pen is becoming a big deal because it seems like that maybe was the president who

00:16:50.260 ever operated the auto pen. But when they say that that was not good, they also, you know,

00:16:55.340 you have to look and you have to say that.

00:16:56.820 Blockbuster revelations on both the Herd tapes, finally heard them from Axis. We had Mark Caputo 1.00

00:17:04.380 on for his first interview on Saturday morning, a bombshell there. Then the cancer, whole cancer

00:17:10.900 thing, another bombshell. Everybody's trying to grasp with that. The book, the book fight,

00:17:18.960 Jesse Waters says is a bombshell. We got the author or the co-author, Jonathan Allen joins us

00:17:24.640 this morning. Jonathan, you had a unique insight on so many things of the Biden-Harris, which was

00:17:33.380 unique. I mean, President Trump, don't get me wrong, coming back from his most unique in history, but

00:17:37.520 the Democratic Party did so many things that were so different, particularly in the last six months.

00:17:43.280 Are you surprised by, given your intimate knowledge of the apparatus and also your coverage as one of

00:17:50.900 the top reporters in town, the revelations when you actually hear the Herd tapes and you hear about

00:17:57.280 the cancer, given your knowledge of how Biden ran the White House and how they ran the campaign,

00:18:03.880 that these things are kind of being dropped on us now, sir?

00:18:07.680 I mean, shocking, but not necessarily surprising.

00:18:11.320 You know, with regard to the Herd tapes, I mean, you can't listen to that without understanding that

00:18:17.160 the audio is so much more telling than the transcript that we were given, you know, way back when,

00:18:22.920 you know, shortly after the Herd report came out. The Biden White House was cocooned. Joe Biden

00:18:30.640 himself was cocooned by a small set of people around him, Mike Donilon, Steve Ricchetti, the First Lady,

00:18:36.900 Hunter Biden. You know, you also had a couple of, you know, more personal aides who were around him,

00:18:43.220 Annie Tomasini and Anthony Bernal, but a very small group of people that actually saw the

00:18:47.560 president on a regular basis and they did everything that they could to hide him from the American

00:18:52.240 public. And, you know, Steve, we've talked about this before off air, but, you know, this was not a

00:18:57.760 pattern that just developed in 2024 or 2023. You know, we saw this in the 2020 election when you were

00:19:05.620 talking and others were talking about Joe Biden hiding in his basement during the pandemic. They

00:19:10.600 did everything they possibly could to keep him out of the sight of the American voter. And we,

00:19:15.700 you know, my coauthor, Amy Parnes, and I actually wrote a book in 2020 or about the 2020 election

00:19:20.360 called Lucky, How Joe Biden Barely Won the Presidency. They went into the ways he was already

00:19:25.980 losing his fastball. What about in the 24, particularly around the time of the debates,

00:19:33.200 all of that? Was it evident? Was it leaking out then or was it still? Because the tape,

00:19:39.380 the her tape is from October 8th of 23. We're almost nine months later until the nation saw it

00:19:48.020 in all its glory in that debate. I think even Trump was shocked. I think Trump had known it was that bad.

00:19:53.940 He wouldn't have debated and just gone all the way and not taking the risk of a Kamala Harris.

00:19:58.120 So what was the, what, walk us through your reporting. The book is Fight. If you want to

00:20:03.980 get an insider's account, Jesse Waters says it's a bombshell. It's a page turner because it reads

00:20:08.880 like a novel. Talk to us about the debate and how, given it was a cocoon, how did, how did they fool

00:20:15.940 themselves that Joe Biden was going to be able to stand up against Trump for an hour or so? It's

00:20:21.800 starting at nine o'clock at night, I think, sir. This incredible self-delusion. I mean, Biden was

00:20:27.720 already being, in 2020, during the primaries, they stopped putting him on the campaign trail

00:20:32.520 late at night. They knew he had hours that were difficult for him. This incredible first self-delusion

00:20:39.180 among the people who had the most to gain from a second Biden presidency. So First Lady Jill Biden, 1.00

00:20:45.220 you know, we had a source that told us that, you know, she didn't want to give up the House of

00:20:49.480 Pennsylvania Avenue. Mike Donald and Biden's right hand explained to a prominent Democrat at the time

00:20:56.420 that nobody wants to give up the plane or the helicopter. You know, these folks had a lot

00:21:02.060 personally invested in it. And, you know, I think the, I think the one thing that's really difficult

00:21:06.520 for me, Steve, and I think is, was very difficult for, you know, anybody who wasn't sort of a captive

00:21:12.860 of the Democratic Party in terms of voters, meaning independent-minded voters and certainly Republicans.

00:21:17.660 I think the hardest thing was when Joe Biden gets out after that debate, he doesn't resign the

00:21:23.880 presidency. And basically the message is he's not fine to run, but he's fine to have his finger on

00:21:29.740 the nuclear button. And I think that that's just, you know, a tortured logic.

00:21:34.340 This is what we were going nuts on. So what happened in that interim when he didn't resign the

00:21:39.960 president? That's what we were all over the next day. Forget running that. And this is a couple of days,

00:21:44.720 I think, before I went to prison, I said, hey, this guy's the commander in chief. What about the

00:21:48.600 25th Amendment? How did they determine, I mean, inside in your reporting, how did they decide,

00:21:56.120 not only was it going to be Kamala Harris, but given all these other attractive candidates they 1.00

00:22:00.560 had, these governors, there wasn't going to be some, at least some, some sort of mini runoff because

00:22:06.020 they had till, what, the third week of August to actually make a decision. How did they come up with

00:22:10.320 the idea that Kamala Harris, who was virtually unknown to the American people, was going to be 0.80

00:22:16.140 the pick? So we go into this in real detail in the book. I mean, this covers chapters, Biden sort of

00:22:23.300 hanging on to the presidency and Obama wanted to do this sort of mini primary and Nancy Pelosi wanted 1.00

00:22:28.620 to do a mini primary, but they couldn't push Biden out. He was really dug in. The people around him

00:22:34.500 were super dug in. They started trying to sink Kamala Harris in order to save Biden. His people

00:22:41.620 were calling donors, calling Democratic elected officials and threatening them, basically saying,

00:22:46.200 if you get rid of him, you're going to end up with her and she's terrible. You know, they all sort of

00:22:50.660 thought she was going to be a disaster. And at the same time, Biden staying in for as long as he did

00:22:55.480 kind of closed that window. I think Pelosi, by the end of that window, right by the time Biden gets

00:23:01.600 out, she thinks that the window is closed and they can't do it anymore. Obama is still trying

00:23:07.180 to set up a mini primary on the day that Biden gets out and endorses Harris. By the way, she had

00:23:12.620 to beg Biden for his endorsement to get on the phone. This was never previously reported. You know,

00:23:18.380 previously it was reported that they get on the phone. He says, I'm going to endorse you. What he

00:23:21.840 actually said was, you know, she said, are you going to endorse me? And he said, you've got my support

00:23:27.180 kid. And she knows that if you hear anything other than the E word, the endorsement word,

00:23:31.940 you're basically getting the F word. And she said, no, no, you got to endorse me. And he said, well,

00:23:35.920 I'm going to endorse you in a few days. And she's like, everybody's going to know you don't think

00:23:39.400 I'm any good if you don't endorse me immediately. And so eventually she convinces Biden that day to

00:23:44.360 endorse her. But Obama had set up phone calls, including with Jim Clyburn, the Democratic

00:23:50.100 congressman for South Carolina, very influential in Democratic politics, particularly

00:23:54.360 with African-American voters. Obama had set up a call with him later that day to talk about

00:24:00.300 an open convention. So he's still trying to push that. But I think it got to the point where

00:24:04.720 they decided there wasn't time for it. And the other piece of this, you know, Stephen,

00:24:09.340 I know you talk about this a lot. The Democrats are pretty married to the diversity idea. And I think

00:24:17.100 that the idea that if they had an open convention, that it would have ended up with anybody other than

00:24:21.760 Harris's is hard to figure based on who the, you know, who the delegates are to their convention

00:24:27.740 and the prospect that if they skipped over a woman of color who was the vice president to put somebody

00:24:33.460 else in there, that that a lot of the Democratic voters would have stayed home.

00:24:40.260 Just hit rewind for a second. I want to make sure the audience understands this. And this is why you

00:24:44.840 got to get the book because the book is kind of like a Shakespearean drama from the moment he left

00:24:51.200 the stage on which I think I was gobsmacked about how bad because we were on Biden every day, how

00:24:56.800 gobsmacked it was, how terrible it was. Walk through the logic that the people around him still fought

00:25:03.120 tooth and nail, not for him. They still were convinced, trying to convince people he can take

00:25:09.200 on Trump and he can win, correct? Absolutely. They, they, I mean, for weeks and not only were

00:25:15.480 they telling people that they were threatening people, they were threatening donors, they were

00:25:18.760 threatening, uh, other elected officials, um, you know, with the, the power of the white house,

00:25:23.920 Biden sent out a, a letter to the Hill to Democrats on Capitol Hill on, uh, on July 8th. So a couple

00:25:30.040 weeks after the debate, and he said, I've made my decision, I'm sticking in. And then Pelosi goes on

00:25:34.140 morning, Joe, and she says, he's got to make his decision. And the person interviewing her says he

00:25:39.180 already made his decision. And she says, yeah, he still has to make a decision. I mean, there was

00:25:43.000 this real fight going on in the Democratic Party. And again, the book's got like sort of all the

00:25:46.820 details on it, but the, the Biden people were dug in. They believed he was the only person who could

00:25:51.380 beat Trump. They said to everyone who would listen, he's beaten him before nobody else can do it now.

00:25:56.400 Um, and you know, I mean, that's, we talk about the delusions of the Democrats. I mean,

00:26:00.860 the greatest delusion of all was that Joe Biden, and he still says this to this day that he would

00:26:05.640 have beaten Trump. It's, it's ridiculous. Do you think that he came to, um, this endorsement, 0.99

00:26:14.860 which kind of caught some of these people by surprise of Kamala Harris, because at the end of 0.91

00:26:20.460 the day, he wasn't, there, there were, he kind of proved his point that only he, uh, could, although

00:26:27.680 were the advocates of the stolen election, but that only he could have beaten Trump, that Kamala

00:26:31.800 Harris couldn't do it. So that's one of the reasons that at the end of the day, he, um,

00:26:36.780 although unwillingly, unwillingly endorsed her. I think, I think it's a few reasons. I think number

00:26:43.720 one, uh, he had chosen her as vice president and he had been vice president before. And I think

00:26:48.100 he understood that if he picked somebody else or didn't pick her, it would have undercut his

00:26:53.240 original decision, telling the American people, uh, that she was the next best person to be president

00:26:57.660 and then saying, Hey, I made a huge mistake here. I think it would have been, uh, you know, I think

00:27:02.320 he saw it as something that would be horrible for his legacy. Uh, I think he wanted to stick a middle

00:27:06.860 finger right up into Barack Obama's face and Nancy Pelosi's face after they were trying to push him

00:27:12.060 out. And that was his, the one thing that he still had control over. And, you know, I mean, I, I think

00:27:16.740 it's hard to say that Biden sabotaged, uh, Kamala Harris, because I think that would, uh, that would

00:27:22.720 impute a level of, uh, a level of, of not just motivation, but, uh, ability to execute that.

00:27:31.620 I'm not sure he had. However, there were things he did down the stretch that made it harder for

00:27:35.600 her to win. We think first of all, uh, of course of him, uh, using, uh, you know, putting that MAGA

00:27:41.840 hat on its head during the middle of the stretch run. Even, even my son said to me, Steve, uh, I

00:27:48.160 heard Joe, Joe Biden endorsed Donald Trump against Kamala Harris. You know, that video made it,

00:27:53.940 made it all around. I'm sure you helped with that.

00:27:58.400 Hey, Jonathan, can you hang on for a second? We, I've got, uh, we've got some questions about

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00:30:31.960 Okay, Jonathan Allen from Embassy News joins us. He's the author of a blockbuster book,

00:30:36.360 Fight the Inside Story of Both Campaigns. But I got to be blunt with you. The Democratic part reads like

00:30:44.360 Shakespeare. So Kamala Harris actually leads in the early polling. I know it's name recognition 1.00

00:30:50.600 and these early polls would be discounted, but she makes the argument all the time and the people

00:30:56.440 around her, if she only had more time for the American people to know her, if she had another

00:31:01.400 week, she would be president. Trump wouldn't. I actually argue that if this thing was taken

00:31:07.640 still in her, you know, the Messiah is going to save us from Biden and Trump in late August,

00:31:13.640 if the vote had been then, it might even have been closer and she might've eked it out. In fact,

00:31:18.520 the more of the American people got to see her and know her and hear the incoherence,

00:31:24.200 they asked the question, is she ready to be commander in chief and president of the United States? 0.99

00:31:27.880 Jonathan Allen, what is your reporting in the book show? 0.99

00:31:30.600 Yeah, her argument is Kentucky fried horse crap, if I can say that on your show. Your argument is 1.00

00:31:38.920 a much stronger one. She was doing better late August, early September, even into early October.

00:31:46.280 When you talk to the folks, and my co-author and I did, who are crunching numbers for both of the

00:31:50.120 campaigns, we saw this, you know, at first what was a sugar high for her, and it was an extended

00:31:56.120 sugar high. And the race got really, really close there. You know, Trump had been leading Biden going

00:32:02.200 into the debate. He was leading Biden by more after the debate. And Harris picked back up those

00:32:08.440 Democrats that had left Biden and she'd even gotten a little bit more traction. But to your point,

00:32:14.200 I mean, she ripped the bark off of herself. She was, you know, this was a change election. President 0.92

00:32:19.320 Trump was offering change to the American public, particularly on the economy and inflation,

00:32:24.120 particularly on immigration. And what Kamala Harris offered them was more of the same.

00:32:29.000 And when she was asked on The View in particular, because that got so much attention, she was asked

00:32:35.640 what she would do differently from, would have done differently from Biden. She said she couldn't think

00:32:39.720 of a thing. And it was an echo of that September 10th debate. And you remember all the coverage of

00:32:44.760 that September 10th debate was that she had won it and that Trump had lost it. I think there was

00:32:49.720 something very important that happened in that debate, which is, uh, she was asked that question

00:32:54.920 again, what would you, you know, or for the first time, what would you do differently? And she said

00:32:58.440 she had no answer and Trump, Trump hit her for it. And I think a lot of voters listened to that.

00:33:02.520 And when it got reinforced by her down the line that she wasn't willing to change anything,

00:33:08.040 she was running on Joe Biden's platform. And by the way, he's in her ear. We report this in the book

00:33:12.920 for the first time. He's in her ear telling her no daylight kid. He didn't want her to have any

00:33:18.440 daylight from him. And she, she listened to that. She took it to heart. And this is an election where

00:33:23.880 people really were dissatisfied with the Biden record and wanted change. Donald Trump was offering

00:33:29.800 it. And I think by the time you got to October and November, people could really tell that she didn't

00:33:34.280 have a vision for the country, uh, or a core reason for her candidacy, other than that she was

00:33:39.240 sitting in the number two spot when the number one guy stepped aside. So I think you're absolutely

00:33:44.040 right. This race was close, uh, late summer heading into the fall. And, uh, you know, by the time

00:33:50.200 we got to election day, uh, that spread had grown. So she, her, her analysis of that, and we report on

00:33:55.880 this in the book is wrong. It just real quickly, cause we got to bounce, but Jonathan, cause on the

00:34:02.760 morning of MSNBC, you know, the universities are showing out, the urban centers are showing out

00:34:07.720 the night before the polling. Did you and your author have the insight in the book that this

00:34:14.600 thing was ebbing away from her? Although the mainstream media was still doing a big rah-rah

00:34:18.680 and that's what they were in shock. They were stunned at 10 o'clock that night,

00:34:22.200 11 o'clock that night when, um, when Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania all kind of flipped,

00:34:27.400 sir. Yeah. I can only speak for myself that I wasn't stunned, but we do have reporting in the book

00:34:32.200 for the first time we report that in their final, uh, analysis of the campaign, their final

00:34:37.320 projection of the camp of the election, the Harris people, her team predicted her losing

00:34:45.640 internally. They had a slide show that showed which States were supposed to go in which directions,

00:34:50.200 and it had her coming up short and Donald Trump winning. And the, I mean, to this day,

00:34:55.880 Kamala Harris was shocked on election night as was a lot of the, uh, a lot of the media.

00:35:00.840 Jonathan, where do they get to follow you on social media and where they get the book?

00:35:06.360 Get me at John Allen DC on all the social media. So that's, you know, whether that's Twitter X or,

00:35:11.960 uh, or on, uh, truth social or any of the other ones, it's all at John Allen DC.

00:35:19.000 By the way, you can buy the book anywhere, literally anywhere.

00:35:21.800 By the book, go to Amazon bookstores, anything. And folks, uh, it's a page turner, even though

00:35:27.560 you know, the outcome you will turn. It's not just great reporting. It's, it's beautifully written.

00:35:33.000 John Allen, Jonathan, thank you so much for being on here this morning.

00:35:37.000 Thank you, Steve. Appreciate it.

00:35:39.240 Grace, if, uh, Mo, we can push this out, make sure everybody gets a shot at this thing, because,

00:35:42.760 um, that thing at the end, stunning when they actually told her that morning,

00:35:46.440 she didn't believe it, thought it was going to cut the other way. This shows you President Trump,

00:35:50.680 what, I mean, he defeated Biden and then later he defeated Kamala Harris. Pretty stunning. Yeah.

00:35:56.920 Historic. Yeah. No, I, I liked hearing him review it because we forget what was at stake there.

00:36:02.280 Everything was at stake and it, it, it, it wasn't, you know, I mean, we won a huge electoral college,

00:36:08.120 popular, all that, but it, it was still a percent. It was tight. It was still tight. It's tight.

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Bannon's War Room - May 20, 2025

Episode 4499： Inside The Wildest Battle For The White House

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