Bannon's War Room - Episode 4501： The Big Beautiful Bill; Building The Iron Dome

00:00:00.000 And the warning signs are everywhere. That trip I just took talking to European business

00:00:03.920 members. This was a topic of conversation, Joe, that came up repeatedly. Like, what is the health

00:00:10.100 of the American economy? Should we now be looking at reweighting our investments out of the United

00:00:15.980 States? The American market has been fantastic for investors ever since 2008. It's been booming.

00:00:21.500 But there's a real sense around the world now, particularly in Europe, that this is not the

00:00:25.440 place to put your money. America is too risky. And the thing that is risky is partly the politics

00:00:30.820 are too volatile in the tariffs. But the other thing that is risky is this underlying financial

00:00:34.980 irresponsibility. The debt is just out of control. I was talking just a week or two ago about possibly

00:00:40.180 not going with the tax cuts for billionaires, which you have Steve Bannon. I mean, this is not AOC

00:00:46.080 stuff. This is like Steve Bannon and the hardcore MAGA supporters saying, don't give billionaires tax

00:00:52.520 cuts. What are you doing? Don't give a million. Don't give multinational corporations tax cuts.

00:00:58.060 And he sort of, you know, for a while he was talking about not doing that, but they're Republicans

00:01:03.780 are plowing ahead doing it. In fact, that's the top line coming out of their meeting yesterday.

00:01:07.880 They're celebrating. We're going to renew the tax cuts. We're going to the golden age will begin.

00:01:12.680 I think the big, beautiful bill is, is I think the conventional wisdom is that it's too big,

00:01:18.400 maybe not too beautiful, but too big to fail. And that one way or the other,

00:01:23.580 they're going to get something across the line here, at least to get it out of the house. What

00:01:27.600 will happen after that is, is another question altogether, because, you know, Joe has been

00:01:31.900 raising concerns for a very long time. As has everybody else that we may be at the point now

00:01:37.160 where finally the bill comes due for the extraordinary fiscal recklessness that, that the Trump

00:01:43.220 administration in its first term and now in its second term, and to some extent, the Biden

00:01:46.640 administration in its term in office, we have this, the deficit and debt are both so out of

00:01:52.200 control that the possibility, you know, this is what the whole Moody's downgrade is about.

00:01:56.860 The world is starting to look at that at America as being not, not, not only, not only a safe,

00:02:02.380 not only no longer a safe harbor and looking at the dollar is not only the stable currency for the

00:02:07.520 world, but as a giant credit risk. And, and so there's concern about that on the Senate side,

00:02:12.720 getting this whole thing across the finish line by 4th of July, which is the plan is not really the

00:02:18.100 question. The question is, is it going to get out of the house right now? And remember guys,

00:02:21.820 the main policy thing that this bill is going to do is the main thing is just going to extend those,

00:02:28.280 those, those Trump tax cuts from the first term. It's really not going to change that much policy

00:02:33.420 on the tax side. There are obviously a lot of concerns on the Medicaid side and other places,

00:02:36.900 but I think one way or the other, this thing gets through the house. I think actually we were

00:02:41.900 further away from a deal because that salt cap increase, I think upset a lot of conservatives.

00:02:49.400 Again, the conservatives are pushing for some balancing spending reductions. We actually stopped

00:02:54.900 negotiating just before midnight because we actually had a deal that was then pulled off the

00:03:00.180 table. So again, this, this, this bill actually got worse overnight. There is no way it passes today.

00:03:06.880 And I, I, as I've said all along, we may need a couple of weeks to iron everything out,

00:03:11.900 but it's not going anywhere today. There's a lot of talk about reckoning in a lot of different

00:03:16.280 places, progressives, movement spaces, uh, democratic party leaders, uh, centrist groups

00:03:23.880 like third way, the press, something has, we're not seeing certain things. Uh, how could this happen

00:03:31.240 again in America? There's a lot of promise reckoning, reflection, introspection, and six months on,

00:03:36.400 I kind of took a survey of, you know, those things. I've, I've been in a lot of those rooms

00:03:39.840 over the last six months. And I have to say, this was the reckoning that wasn't, um, reflecting on

00:03:45.640 so many of those conversations in public and in private over the last six months. It struck me

00:03:50.160 that in so many of these worlds with that promise reckoning, the promise rethinking,

00:03:54.600 what should our party be? What should, what is a pro-democracy movement look like? What should

00:03:58.460 the press function like? There was kind of a smugness and a defensiveness and I'm, nope,

00:04:03.260 we're doing everything perfectly.

00:04:04.140 What are you saying? Yeah. The democratic establishment.

00:04:05.680 Well, I think you can go down the list.

00:04:07.100 Smugness.

00:04:07.420 So, so start with the democratic party, right? Right. Uh, which should really at the, be at the,

00:04:13.480 at the top of the list of what is a profound rethinking of what it means to have a pro-democracy

00:04:19.380 party when you're running against that, because someone, you know, frontally going after Medicaid,

00:04:23.660 as we were talking about. Um, and you've had no real rethinking. You've had, you know, individual

00:04:28.400 leaders reaching out to people saying, what do we do? What do we do? But anybody who's tried to

00:04:32.000 change anything, uh, David Hogg, others, the DNC kicked out, they picked a very lackluster chair.

00:04:38.360 Uh, I would say the other, you know, you'd look at the progressive movement space where I've also

00:04:42.220 spent time, um, no real reckoning there. You know, you have just a continued sense of what

00:04:47.940 everything we're doing is perfect. Let's just do, you know, the land acknowledgements and all this

00:04:51.560 academic jargony stuff that no one understands that alienates people that don't understand what

00:04:56.400 those things are. Um, no reckoning there. Uh, I think you have, you know, uh, leaders, individual

00:05:04.420 democratic leaders who have just been completely disappointing to most people watching this, who

00:05:10.160 have not stood up, not showed spine. People have raised their voice. It's the thing I hear most from

00:05:14.240 people. You haven't had one leadership shuffle. You haven't had one new leader. You haven't had

00:05:18.480 anybody say, you know what, I'm not adequate to this moment. Um, and you know, I, this sounds like a

00:05:23.900 very negative analysis and it is, but I think what I wanted to call people's attention to is

00:05:28.540 there's a risk of becoming Trump-like in opposing Trump. There's a risk in becoming as defensive,

00:05:34.460 as smug, as self-certain, as incurious. Incuriosity was sort of the thing I found the most. And all

00:05:41.460 these people and institutions who said, we have to, we have to look at ourselves. No one, as far as I

00:05:46.680 can tell, ended up really looking at themselves and no one has ended up really saying we need a

00:05:50.680 completely different kind of party. We need to report the news differently. We need,

00:05:53.620 what does anybody think they need to do differently six months on? Uh, I don't think you stand up for

00:05:59.500 democracy with values of, of kind of closeness. Um, and I think the value of curiosity, openness,

00:06:05.400 uh, is the only way to beat what, whatever Donald Trump is. So bottom line, you're telling us that,

00:06:10.300 you know, for a fact, no way this gets done today. The votes just aren't there.

00:06:15.660 That's right. Uh, you know, again, once they made the decision, uh, to not include the deal,

00:06:21.000 uh, in, in this, in this package, uh, there are, uh, and it'll be more than 12 to 15 members.

00:06:26.880 It's, it's, it's way more than that. Uh, this, as I said, this bill got worse, not better overnight.

00:06:31.520 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:06:42.640 these people. You're just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people

00:06:49.100 have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the

00:06:53.180 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like

00:06:56.780 that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul. I wish that any of these people

00:07:04.420 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save

00:07:12.080 my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:07:19.560 It's Wednesday, 21 May, year of our Lord, 2025. Okay. We've got a, it's an amazingly, I guess

00:07:29.760 not amazingly, you're used to this. It's jammed, um, on news and analysis and observations this

00:07:36.080 morning. So much going on and, uh, we're going to get it all done, but we're going to be have

00:07:40.700 to, we're going to juggle. So, uh, and I've got a great list of, uh, guests because there's

00:07:45.760 so many things that we got to get out there just besides this bill is a knife fight. Andy

00:07:52.440 Harrison, the, uh, and the deficit Hawks, freedom caucus and others, um, you know, overnight,

00:07:59.260 the salt thing got a little better for the salt guys, but it looked worse for particularly

00:08:03.980 that the increases look worse. And they took it off the table, what they were working

00:08:08.000 with on the, on the Medicaid. And remember Medicaid, we're a big supporter of Medicaid

00:08:11.940 of not taking the meat acts to it, but you got to get, you got to get the illegal aliens off and 0.68

00:08:16.540 the able body had got to go to work. I look, I think 80 hours a month's nothing. Um, but, and

00:08:22.980 that's got to be pulled up to like immediately 26. So there's big fights on this. Um, Joe Scarborough,

00:08:29.460 just for the Joe Scarborough crowd, Hey, I guess we're going to get it in the Senate or in putting

00:08:33.980 this thing together, but the math just doesn't work. It's not me saying that I keep telling people,

00:08:39.680 Hey, the bond market is going to get a vote and we don't want to get into the situation in the

00:08:42.940 United Kingdom and Liz trust. And guess what? 10 year treasuries over 4.5%. And that's going

00:08:48.440 to roll through your life because all of your financial life is predicated on the 10 year

00:08:52.940 treasury. That's what your credit card, your mortgage, your car loan, everything is set on

00:08:58.860 that. That's your foundational element. That's the, what they consider the risk-free that they

00:09:02.580 let the government borrow at where you ain't risk-free, even if you got great credit.

00:09:06.840 The, uh, 30 is over five. The 30 year mortgage is over seven. Just people are saying, you see

00:09:14.120 the collapse over in Japan, folks are saying, how's this thing going to be financed? Where

00:09:18.980 are the foreign buyers for that? And are the, is the fed or the U S government, uh, the citizens

00:09:25.580 going to be buying these? That's how we're going to do this. So I think we need some fiscal

00:09:32.240 reality here. Nobody's not trying to, the president's agenda is a supply side tax cut.

00:09:38.840 We got that, but people understand some of that. Your, your taxes are not going to, your

00:09:43.360 taxes are going to stay the same. They're not going to increase. If you don't, if we don't

00:09:46.380 pass this, your taxes is going to be the, a 68%, I think increase for you. So that's, that's

00:09:52.680 the working class and middle class. The math doesn't work unless you allow a snapback. They 1.00

00:10:01.260 don't, you don't have a tax cut for the wealthy when you don't have a tax cut for the upper

00:10:04.700 bracket. Maybe take care of the upper bracket. You set a new bracket at a million bucks and

00:10:08.980 put it at 40% figured out, but the math just doesn't work. And it doesn't also work with

00:10:14.640 this top up of the defense spending. And we've got a new defense spending thing. Brian Kennedy

00:10:18.560 is going to come on here about this. Um, and I understand everybody wants all these things

00:10:25.040 and this is great, but they downgraded and Besson's right because of Biden's irresponsible

00:10:31.780 handling, but we have to deal with that. I understand people are irresponsible. Both

00:10:37.520 parties were irresponsible. The Democrats were us, but the Republicans went along with it and

00:10:41.840 didn't fight it. And here we are today and it ain't going to get better because remember

00:10:48.240 in all these discussions we're having and about interest payments and all this, not one penny

00:10:53.060 of the debt ever gets paid off the face amount. So when you see a deficit of $2 trillion,

00:10:59.180 that's going to translate, that's going to go from a deficit in a year. And as it goes,

00:11:03.820 it's going to go to the national debt. This is why they're asking for a $4 trillion lift on the debt

00:11:11.880 ceiling between now. And they're saying $4 trillion and they get to come back at the duration of

00:11:17.880 it is, um, is post the 26 midterm. Guess what? I penciled out that it's going to be in the summer

00:11:24.840 of 26 and we have yet to be wrong. I know you guys appreciate when I say that.

00:11:31.580 Uh, so this is a mess. I think you got to take care of us and these guys at, uh, at, at face

00:11:38.840 very, I know they're working and they're going to work all day. Since grace put this thing up at

00:11:43.720 one in the morning, it's been nonstop. And this has never happened before where you, you've got

00:11:49.060 the rules. There's no manager's amendment. So you don't know what's really changed to the basic bill

00:11:54.000 yet. They're plowing through today for this, for this, uh, labor day, for this Memorial day weekend.

00:11:59.420 And I understand what Johnson's doing when he got a shot to pass something like this, you try to pass

00:12:03.940 it. He's, he's basically a floor manager now, but that doesn't talk about the overall. And what my

00:12:09.560 concern is in the summer of 26. And I get the fact that you're talking about growth, but somebody got

00:12:17.920 to walk us through where that growth is going to come from. The white house keeps saying growth.

00:12:22.400 That's fine. I'm with you. The supply side part of this. And I actually like seeing some of the

00:12:26.320 supply side stuff on the small businesses be permanent, which it's not. But I think somebody

00:12:32.340 like, I don't know, randomly, I'm going to throw out some, some names, you know, maybe the secretary

00:12:37.960 of treasury, maybe the head of OMB, maybe NEC, maybe Hassett comes out and actually talks math

00:12:43.740 for a change and doesn't give me vote counts. We don't need vote counts from the head of NEC.

00:12:47.360 We need mathematics. You're getting blown up in the mainstream media saying,

00:12:52.280 oh, it's your deficit. You're blowing up. It's 10% of the working, the poor are going to get 0.99

00:12:56.280 crushed. 10% of the wealthy. Hey, let's counter that. Let's come back. Let's show them a model. 0.99

00:13:00.580 Say you're wrong. Here's where this is going to be. Here's where the supply side in investment in

00:13:05.920 labor and productivity. This is how we're going to bust through two and a half percent. This is how

00:13:11.420 we're going to get to the CBO IMF all says our growth rates 1.7 to 2.0. We're going to do better than

00:13:17.640 that because of this, um, the extension of these tax cuts and other things that we're doing.

00:13:23.680 I'd also throw in the money from the cash from the external revenue service.

00:13:27.720 The tariffs are obviously generating some revenue. President Trump's throwing down hard there.

00:13:31.860 They're spending nonstop working on these, working on these. The tariffs are going to throw something

00:13:36.980 in there. A hundred billion dollars in the doge guys. It's time now to actually, if the Republican

00:13:42.540 party's not going to codify it and they're going to have some kind of gimmick to kind of hide it,

00:13:46.800 let's, let's just get what doge found. The waste, fraud, and abuse. President Trump could not be

00:13:52.000 clear yesterday. Didn't want to cut touch Medicaid. He wanted waste, fraud, and abuse. Well, hey,

00:13:56.500 Medicaid is traditionally a cesspool of, uh, of fraud. Let's see it. Let's see all the revenues,

00:14:05.600 or at least to project it. It doesn't have to be exactly right, but you know, we'll, we'll round up

00:14:09.680 or round down. Let's throw it all into the pot and see where we are. Right now, we're not making

00:14:15.500 a counter-argument. That argument's there. The argument actually is there. You're going to cut

00:14:21.760 defense spending, some defense spending, and you're going to raise, you know, the one percent is going

00:14:26.500 to go. I, you know, I realize it's a bad thing you guys stop saying that you're social. I'm not a

00:14:30.240 socialist. I'm a capitalist. The problem is we don't, we have a capitalist system with no capitalist.

00:14:34.280 75% of the people in this country don't own anything. No real assets. No, no, no financial

00:14:40.800 assets. They're hanging on by a string. And hey, and don't sit there and go, I'm in the middle class.

00:14:45.800 I got a good job. You lose that job. Tell me how you're feeling in a hundred days. If you don't

00:14:51.760 have a follow on, if you're 45 or 50 years old, how are you feeling? You ain't feeling too good.

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00:16:27.540 ...here in the Oval Office as we make a historic announcement about the Golden

00:16:31.660 Dome Missile Defense Shield. We will truly be completing the job that President Reagan

00:16:36.220 started 40 years ago, forever ending the missile threat to the American homeland. The one big, 0.62

00:16:42.480 beautiful bill will include $25 billion for the Golden Dome. It's a generational investment in

00:16:48.560 security of America and Americans. Golden Dome is a bold and aggressive approach to hurry up and

00:16:55.200 protect the homeland from our absence. The Golden Dome is going to be an even bigger legacy for our

00:16:59.480 country. The Congress is stepping up, as you mentioned right now, in the budget reconciliation

00:17:03.580 bill. You know, some funding is tough and some is easy. When we say we're going to save everyone's

00:17:08.120 lives in a crazy world, it seems to be very easy to get. Our enemies, our adversaries are going to pay

00:17:13.300 a lot of attention to this, just like they have to President Trump from day one. So you're defending

00:17:18.040 the homeland, defending the American people. So thank you for your leadership.

00:17:22.600 Yeah, we're going to go with this. By the way, some people, you know, about President Trump and

00:17:26.100 being confused about this, it's quite simple. We're here to make sure we give President Trump our best

00:17:31.040 guidance in getting things done. Particularly, this is going to be his legacy, legislative,

00:17:36.120 legislative, just like in the first term, the tax cut, right? We're going to live with

00:17:40.720 this for a long time. This is going to affect not only the midterms, more importantly, the

00:17:45.340 midterms, the country. And you have to, you know, you have to be straight. I'm just doing

00:17:48.780 the straight math. And we are begging and want the administration, Secretary of Treasury, OMB.

00:17:56.500 And look, it's, Russ votes making, here's the case for you at home and saying I'm confused.

00:18:01.600 Don't get confused. Get your number two pencil out and write this down, which I've only been

00:18:05.380 talking about for months, but write it down. Russ vote and the guys are making, they've

00:18:11.360 made a decision to get structural changes on some of this mandatory spending. And to do

00:18:18.200 that, they've done some trade-offs and there are, we do bend the arc starting really in

00:18:24.480 the fifth year. Okay. And the trade-off is that they haven't gotten the cuts on some of

00:18:31.840 the discretionary and others, even some of the, the, the, I think discretionary, but

00:18:36.520 they consider entitlement, but not the Medicaid. And that's why the deficit appears, at least

00:18:41.720 in my math, to go up. And my math has not been refuted yet. So they've made a decision structurally

00:18:48.020 to do this, which is smart. My only argument is you got to do both. We have to address it

00:18:53.700 now because you can see the bond market. Now the argument is if, if economic growth, if

00:19:00.120 you get the growth, because remember your taxes are not going to go down. What they're

00:19:05.380 going to do is not going to go up. That's the extension of your tax cut. The argument

00:19:11.480 and for the business taxes and particularly for some of the entrepreneurs, the more of the

00:19:16.080 supply side, that's the spur growth. Somebody come out and show the growth, show the growth

00:19:22.640 of two and a half or 3%. How do we get there? We're fully supported, but you got to be smart

00:19:28.300 about this because you're going to live with this one for a long time. And this is going

00:19:32.220 to affect president Trump's fourth race and third term starting in, you know, when he wins

00:19:38.740 in 28. So you got to be, you got to be, you got to really, and president Trump said, yes,

00:19:45.300 Sam, this is the biggest fiscal hawk out there. I'm, I'm supportive of that. We're trying to

00:19:49.960 add assistance here. And look, this thing may get, it may get passed. They may get the,

00:19:53.860 they may get the votes right now. I think the fiscal hawks are at least going to get a pound

00:19:58.020 of flesh. Like the salt guys got a pound of flesh last night. Brian Kennedy, the golden

00:20:03.260 dome. Okay. The hemisphere, this is part of hemispheric defense. This is a complete

00:20:08.020 president. Trump is rethinking the world's commercial relationships. That's what trade

00:20:14.380 trade tariff to bring high value added manufacturing jobs back. Please, if grace,

00:20:18.880 you can please put up Newsweek magazine has an interview with me. I think I'm part of

00:20:22.660 this article. Talk about a new golden age of American manufacturing. That is what the

00:20:28.420 golden age of Trump, the one of the predicates is bring high value added

00:20:31.740 manufacturing back here to the United States of America. And he's doing that.

00:20:38.020 At the same time is to think about our commitments, particularly on the Eurasian

00:20:42.260 landmass. And that's why this hemispheric defense from Greenland and the Arctic down

00:20:46.260 to the Panama Canal. And yes, having allies in Brazil, get rid of Lula and you got

00:20:51.000 melee, right? In, in South America and Latin America, but from, from the Panama Canal up

00:20:57.260 to Greenland and stopping the Russian sub submarines from just easy entrance and egress,

00:21:05.500 egress and exit from, uh, from the North Atlantic. And you look at the central Pacific

00:21:10.360 in the, you know, in Cleo Pascal happens to be over there right now. We're going to try

00:21:15.360 to get her up the next couple of days. The three Island chain, the vast central Pacific,

00:21:19.060 you add a golden dome on top. Voila, America's hermetically sealed. Um, is that what we're

00:21:27.420 doing here? Brian Kennedy, you're an expert on this. Is this is what we're doing, sir?

00:21:32.560 Uh, yes, that's the aspiration, Steve. Look, the fact is today we cannot stop a single Russian 1.00

00:21:40.500 communist Chinese or Iranian ship launched ballistic missile aimed at the United States.

00:21:48.220 Let me say that again. We cannot stop a single one of those. That is something of a national

00:21:53.460 scandal. Okay, but hang on. Yo, yo, yo, but we went through an entire cold war. We couldn't

00:21:57.880 stop them either. Right. In fact, we signed a treaty, an anti-ballistic missile treaty to

00:22:02.340 guarantee we couldn't stop them. Am I incorrect on that? Absolutely. So this is not a, what you're

00:22:07.500 telling me is not a newsflash. That's been, that's been the case since ballistic missiles

00:22:12.180 came up post-World War II, right? Yeah, it's not a newsflash, Steve. But on the other hand,

00:22:17.500 most Americans don't know that. They think we have a missile defense because successive

00:22:21.700 administrations have said we have a missile defense and that we're protected. We can stop

00:22:25.920 today a few North Korean missiles. By the way, is that, is that, is that, is a, hang on. Is that

00:22:29.700 a fact? If we did a poll, I didn't, I didn't, you caught me. We've done polling. You're saying

00:22:34.420 if you did a poll, you've done a poll and most Americans think we can stop ballistic 0.50

00:22:39.240 missiles? Yes. Frank Gaffney and I have done many polls. Frank has been one of the leading

00:22:43.320 advocates as well of missile defense, have done many. But here's the thing that I think

00:22:47.600 has moved President Trump. Today around Moscow, there are 8,000 nuclear tipped ballistic missile

00:22:54.760 interceptors because the Russians never believed in mutually assured destruction. They believed 0.85

00:23:00.920 in defending the Russian homeland. In China today, they have tested and have fielded missile defenses.

00:23:08.440 They bought the S-300 and S-400 air defenses from Russia. And we should assume that they're using

00:23:15.020 very similar missile defenses to protect the major cities of communist China. And so they believe in

00:23:22.140 missile defense. The only country that doesn't believe in missile defense is the United States.

00:23:26.880 And so President Trump, when presented with those facts, thought it was insane that the United States

00:23:32.560 wouldn't also have a missile defense. So we're playing catch up here. We're not like going,

00:23:37.780 this is not one of these pet military projects that people are just doing because they like it.

00:23:42.320 Why historically, it's the weirdest thing about this nuclear dynamic. Why historically has the United

00:23:47.620 States not had a missile defense? And in fact, when they, President Trump mentioned Star Wars,

00:23:53.080 people literally melted down and called him an idiot and a bad guy. Why have we historically not had a 0.99

00:23:59.220 missile defense? Because the Soviet Union ran a very sophisticated information campaign to make 0.83

00:24:06.140 sure that it was ridiculed. And Democrats like Joe Biden embraced that. And Joe Biden, throughout his

00:24:12.980 entire tenure as a U.S. senator, opposed missile defenses, as have most Democrats. Republicans have gone

00:24:20.500 along because they don't think war is possible. They don't take war seriously, except for unless

00:24:26.960 it's, you know, wars in the Middle East. But strategic issues of the kind President Trump is dealing with

00:24:32.300 here, only he and Ronald Reagan took it seriously. And the cost of this is minuscule compared to

00:24:39.760 some of these legacy programs. This is an insurance policy that you'd get on your house or your car.

00:24:46.800 This is the minimum you would do to defend the American homeland. And so whatever small amount

00:24:53.120 this takes to achieve, this is not a luxury, as it were. This is an absolute necessity.

00:24:59.980 The Iranians, by the way-

00:25:01.260 Is this 25? Yep.

00:25:02.980 25 billion. But let me just say, the Iranians have tested in the Caspian Sea the ability to launch a 0.97

00:25:09.080 ballistic missile from a ship and explode a nuclear warhead in the high atmosphere. They didn't

00:25:15.420 actually use a nuclear warhead, but they've tested the concept of doing that.

00:25:20.400 And so if they could achieve that-

00:25:21.740 And if you did that, that's EMP, so nobody, no cell phones at all, not that your house would

00:25:26.240 shut down.

00:25:26.840 It would destroy the American economy. And by the way, Steve, have a nuclear weapon go off

00:25:33.240 of any size in the United States. What is that going to do to the U.S. economy? We'll be in a

00:25:38.860 depression overnight. Is this also this concern about hypersonic weapons too? Is this the other

00:25:46.280 thing that's getting President Trump's attention?

00:25:48.380 It is. I mean, there's ICBMs, sea launch ballistic missiles, these hypersonic reentry

00:25:53.880 vehicles. There's cruise missiles. The Golden Dome is meant to deal with all of these things.

00:25:59.900 And so between Elon Musk's ability to create rockets and Palmer Luckey and Anderle's ability

00:26:05.320 to create certain interceptor vehicles to stop all this, we have the technology. And we can afford

00:26:14.760 to do it. This is one of those things. Again, it's not a luxury. It's simple. You know, you like

00:26:20.640 to talk about math.

00:26:21.820 We say to afford to do it. You say afford to do it. It's $25 billion now. It's got a $550 billion,

00:26:26.860 I think, over 20 years. That seems a tad light, sir. And this is going to cost a couple of trillion

00:26:31.800 dollars. Because Israel is compact. You're talking about, you're trying to cover the entire

00:26:38.140 continental United States, correct?

00:26:40.180 You're trying to produce a system that deters the enemy from believing that his missile launch

00:26:47.760 against you will be successful. And we've been able to lower the cost of producing these

00:26:53.080 interceptors to the point where you give me half of what they're proposing, and I could field a very

00:27:00.080 effective system that would deter any enemy and stop the short-term enemies. Look, that's how far

00:27:06.300 advanced the technology has come.

00:27:08.960 From a standing start, and of course, the Palmer Luckey stuff is all unmanned. That's one of the

00:27:14.000 big developments here. From a standing start, we've got 30 seconds. Under Brian Kennedy's guidance,

00:27:22.040 when would you be up with enough to deter an enemy from thinking they could get to us?

00:27:26.740 I'd have something in the field in six months, something more sophisticated in a year. Just the

00:27:33.240 normal iteration of weapons development. You'd keep on getting better. But you'd start to field

00:27:38.260 something immediately, or near immediately. And I'll call that six months. Because the United States

00:27:43.880 absolutely has to be defended from all enemies, foreign, who have these missiles, who would seek our

00:27:49.600 destruction.

00:27:50.040 Brian, where do people go? Social media, where do people go to get you, sir?

00:27:55.700 Brian T. Kennedy won on X and Brian T. Kennedy on Getter.

00:28:01.320 Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Great. We're going to be back on, maybe do an hour of this on the six

00:28:05.160 o'clock to break it all down. Fantastic. President Trump going to defend the nation. We're going to go

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00:31:40.020 Wow. Rudy Giuliani. Just like the old days. Rudy, first off, Rudy, you just were not right

00:31:49.860 about Joe Biden. You were so right so many years ago. You got it in print. Finally, the book

00:31:56.340 that we put out, that's amazing, The Crime Family. But you've been right on this forever

00:32:01.840 about him being, you know, dementia, not being there. Praetorian Guard put him in office in

00:32:06.520 2020. You have fought this good fight. You've been indicted about it in Arizona. We'll get to

00:32:10.780 all that. Not just Arizona, all over the place. Talk to me about Joe Biden and the cancer cover

00:32:16.540 up, the Praetorian Guard cover up. What's your recommendation? I think we need a formal

00:32:21.060 investigation, not a house. We don't need Comer doing it and then fail two years later and write

00:32:25.340 some book that nobody reads. We need a grand jury. We need prosecutors. We need a special counsel.

00:32:30.520 Your thoughts, Rudy Giuliani. Well, you're absolutely right, and it's a very broad one. It really has to

00:32:36.940 do with the people who cover this up. Possibly it doesn't meet the legal definition of treason,

00:32:44.340 but it is treason. If you and I know that the president of the United States is non-compass

00:32:49.560 menace, we're double-crossing our country if we let him stay there. Now, in my book that you wrote

00:32:56.640 the forward to, thank you, on page 143, 144, I go back to something in the hard drive.

00:33:06.180 So please remember, this was available to them in December of 2019. By that, I mean the FBI

00:33:11.360 and the Attorney General. People understand this. This is Hunter's laptop from hell,

00:33:15.320 which Rudy broke. Continue on, sir. Yeah, and this is right out of it. It jumps right out at you.

00:33:20.640 It's a conversation with his questionable psychiatrist, Keith Abel. Abel the psychiatrist says to Hunter

00:33:29.420 Biden, does he recall details, though, with the dementia he has? That's the doctor. Hunter said not

00:33:42.540 much these days. We're going back to 2019, my friend. But since it's all fake news anyway,

00:33:51.320 I don't see the problem. The psychiatrist, Abel, is he a go for sure? Running? Hunter says,

00:34:00.840 according to inside sources, which I can neither confirm nor deny, he's in it to win.

00:34:06.300 Abel says, any man who can triumph over dementia is a giant. Think what he could do for our nations

00:34:14.800 needed a recovery. Think of what he did do. Hunter, you're such an a**hole, but that made me laugh out

00:34:23.840 loud. Now, they go on talking about his dementia. It jumps right out at you. That was available almost 1.00

00:34:32.240 a year before he stood for office. Okay, but Rudy, but Rudy, hang on, hang on, hang on, full stop.

00:34:41.960 It was, it was available in November of 2019 to two guys who were Republican nominees, Bill Barr,

00:34:49.920 the head, the Attorney General of the United States, and Chris Wray, the director of the FBI,

00:34:54.360 that both reported to President Trump. Yes, sir.

00:34:55.900 So what, so what happened here? What happened? I don't know what happened, what happened here is

00:35:00.480 they, and much more was available to them. They let him get impeached. When, when, when they had

00:35:05.740 definitive evidence that that whole thing with the Ukraine was a total put up job, the conversation

00:35:11.080 with, uh, with Zelensky, et cetera, and they let their president get impeached. I mean, I don't

00:35:16.960 understand why a bar is not under investigation. I don't understand why the former head of the FBI,

00:35:21.300 I don't understand why Comey's not in jail. Rudy, if the president of the United States

00:35:28.260 picked up the phone and called you and said, Hey, come over to the Oval, I got to talk to you

00:35:31.520 and said, I need a special counsel that knows that can start with a running start and knows

00:35:37.720 all the details about Ukraine and other things. Would you, uh, would you take that job today?

00:35:42.820 Sure. I have my hand up already. I've taken the oath of Ronald Reagan.

00:35:47.360 Okay. What would you do? Okay. Okay. What would you do? Tell me, what would you do?

00:35:53.380 I would, I would, I would, uh, folk, I'd have to start several investigations and then see

00:35:57.860 if they can be merged into one. First of all, I do the one outlined in this book. I mean,

00:36:01.460 I already have an outline. Um, and that is the Rico case against the crime family. Uh, 0.99

00:36:07.120 there'd be four, four specific, uh, predicate acts of bribery. They would involve Russia. They

00:36:14.180 would involve Ukraine. They would involve China, probably about eight separate ones,

00:36:19.500 bribes from China. Um, I'll give you an example. I'll give you a quid pro quo for China. Uh,

00:36:25.700 he got altogether 31 point something million that we can count right from China. First thing he does,

00:36:33.160 uh, when he gets his hands on Afghanistan is he gives up the Bagram air base. Bagram air base is 400

00:36:39.320 miles from China. No American in their right mind would give it up unless the American were bribed. 0.53

00:36:45.480 He never did anything to pursue, um, recovering for us, uh, for COVID over, uh, from, from China.

00:36:51.840 He allowed a fentanyl to come into this country at records that exceed any other American presidency

00:36:58.680 almost combined. So there are plenty of quid pro quos for the Chinese money that he got.

00:37:04.480 But if he's got the beginning of dementia and remember we had Mark Caputo on here the other day

00:37:11.280 who broke the story about the herd tapes. And he said, Hey, he reported in 2019 how people were

00:37:16.900 talking about how Biden didn't have his fastball. And, and the Axios had another story yesterday about

00:37:22.260 how Democrats in the house in 2023 were saying he shouldn't run again. But in the first campaign,

00:37:27.020 are you going to also go around the Praetorian guard, the deep state that put him in? Remember,

00:37:32.680 why did, why did, why did Ray and Bart not, not surface this? Because Bernie Sanders or,

00:37:39.600 or Focahontas or one of those people would have been the nominee. They had their nominee. They had

00:37:45.140 the cipher to, they had the cipher. They were going to steal the election round, which was Joe Biden.

00:37:50.780 Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt about it. I mean, you can go back to Hillary, uh, uh, extorting him with

00:37:55.280 this back in, uh, 2015, uh, when she told him that she knew all about Hunter Biden. I mean,

00:38:01.480 everybody knew about Hunter Biden. It was the only ones who didn't know about it, the press.

00:38:06.200 And, um, uh, the reality is you also would, would put them all in a grand jury. Now that's

00:38:11.540 very different than one of those silly congressional hearings. Uh, first of all, they have to answer. 0.91

00:38:16.520 And if you feel that they're not materially involved, you can give them immunity. If

00:38:20.780 they don't answer, you put them in jail. I did. That's how I, so you wouldn't pan. Okay. So

00:38:24.600 hang on. So you're, you're telling me you take over special counsel, you would, uh, you would,

00:38:29.640 uh, impanel a grand jury right away, or would you designate the FBI to give you some, uh, some,

00:38:34.140 uh, investigative apparatus? Really? I want you to walk me through your critical path.

00:38:38.780 Cause you're going to promote Rudy Giuliani. You're the, are you, are you the best guy to do

00:38:43.460 this? Yes or no? Are you the best guy? Well, I am. I'm the best guy to do it in terms of

00:38:47.520 knowledge and experience and having never lost the case as a prosecutor, um, including some

00:38:54.120 of the most difficult cases of the 20th century. Um, am I the best? And the press will go nuts.

00:39:00.340 But if whoever takes this job, at least I'm already, uh, they've gone nuts on me already.

00:39:05.680 And I've already proven, I'll tell it, I can put out, as you said, for everything they say

00:39:09.740 about me, I can prove I told the truth. I'm not worried about, I'm not worried about the

00:39:12.500 media and not worried about the media. They're defeated anyway. What about, can you work 18

00:39:16.080 hour days to do this? The head guy here has got to be 18 hours a day, 20 hours a day,

00:39:20.700 seven days a week. You agree? I'm going to be doing that until we have my funeral, Steve.

00:39:28.580 I mean, I do that now. Uh, and plus I, obviously I would get very, very, I get the very best.

00:39:34.380 I mean, you know, the people who helped me crush the mafia and some, and some of the younger

00:39:41.520 ones who were doing a great job. Uh, the reality is what about the, what about the cancer? What

00:39:46.780 about the cancer coverup? Where does that come in? Oh, come on. I had prostate cancer 25

00:39:51.240 years ago. I've been cured of it for 25 years. My father died of prostate cancer, a horrible

00:39:56.220 death because he got it late because they didn't have a test then. There's no way in the world

00:40:02.060 you develop that cancer in two days. How about more like 20 years?

00:40:07.280 So, so is, but as ill, but the point I'm making as ill as he is, do you call him in and depose

00:40:13.200 him for four days in a row? Nonstop?

00:40:15.840 Uh, I, I, unless there's, unless his lawyer stops me and we have to litigate it. I had a,

00:40:22.860 I had a great one once with Joe Bonanno for four days and got him held in contempt because

00:40:28.060 he said he was too sick to testify. Did Joe Bonanno, was Joe Bonanno on the Gleason nine

00:40:32.580 for cancer? That's what I'm saying. I know you've done this before. You broke, you broke

00:40:36.960 Milken, you broke the mafia. I got that part, but I'm saying today with a guy that's 80 some

00:40:41.940 years old and has, you know, Gleason nine or whatever is advanced prostate cancer. Does

00:40:47.780 Rudy bring him in? Does Rudy bring him in and you grill him for four days? Cause her

00:40:52.920 played patty cake with him. He's going to have to make the case that he's not capable.

00:40:58.000 Actually the better case is he's mentally incompetent to, to really what her was trying

00:41:03.020 to say, but didn't have the guts to say it is that Biden is incapable of participating in 0.64

00:41:09.100 his own defense. He's so far out of it. Uh, I think that would have been true a year ago

00:41:13.580 and that's, and that's a real problem. Okay, but hang on in saying that the attorney general

00:41:18.640 of the United States should have gone to the cabinet. Where's the 25th amendment?

00:41:22.160 If that's the case, why is Garland, why are we not going after Garland immediately? If,

00:41:26.300 if that, if her made that case, and I think he does make that case, the guy's commander

00:41:31.640 in chief. We just talked about the, we just talked about the golden dome. He's commander

00:41:35.280 in chief. He's the guy that's got the codes for the nukes. Doesn't Garland have a moral

00:41:40.660 responsibility and a legal responsibility to go tell someone that, and they start to move

00:41:46.400 to remove the guy, sir. Every single, every single one of them sitting in that cabinet

00:41:51.000 room, watching him dribble, uh, had the responsibility, uh, to do that. And, uh, for four years, uh,

00:41:57.540 they sold out their country, including his wife, uh, and children and family and the people 0.95

00:42:04.060 and the people who have been immunized. Question is, has Hunter been immunized from that? Uh, it's

00:42:10.440 a broad based, uh, uh, immunization. There is a legal question as to whether you can

00:42:16.340 immunize what you don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on. You're saying,

00:42:19.480 you're saying that they, do you think these blanket preemptive pardons include this situation

00:42:24.960 for the family, Dr. Joe do want to bet they don't, don't you believe they're going to say

00:42:30.860 that? Uh, if it, if it, if it does, by the way, here's the catch 22. They have to testify.

00:42:38.560 They have no ability not to testify. If they have, if they indeed have a blanket pardon,

00:42:44.200 then they can't incriminate themselves. Particularly if I limit my question to that 10

00:42:49.260 year period. Yeah. Then if they don't testify, you automatically put them in jail. And if they

00:42:53.540 commit perjury, you prosecute. Uh, so I would say this is a necessary, uh, way to clean up,

00:43:01.620 uh, this horrible system of justice we have and finally make it equal and fair for all.

00:43:07.680 Okay. We're going to talk about this. We're gonna go to Arizona next with Rudy. Rudy, hang

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00:45:13.380 Okay. We got Noor bin Laden on deck in Geneva on the World Health Organization. We're monitoring

00:45:21.020 the deal. I don't think it votes. They're going to try to do something today, but this thing is a

00:45:25.820 knife fight. We'll keep you up to date on that. Got a special guest in-house momentarily. Rudy,

00:45:32.180 number one, is this scandal bigger than Watergate? Is this the biggest political scandal? An illegitimate

00:45:38.500 that they knew beforehand he had dementia, illegitimate, stole the 2020 election, put a

00:45:43.840 puppet in there, and now with all the crimes they did in the cancer, is this the biggest ever?

00:45:50.020 Of course it is. Yeah. I mean, as I said before, it has sub parts. I mean, there are,

00:45:55.180 you got about five, six, seven, eight different conspiracies here, crimes. And this family in the

00:46:01.940 White House, when I say the Biden crime family, this was the most criminal perverted family to ever 0.90

00:46:07.860 occupy the office of President of the United States. And from big crimes, from big crimes to

00:46:14.220 little crimes, they all will commit it. And the fact that it's, the fact that it isn't uncovered

00:46:20.700 makes it possible for these Democrats to believe they can do it again.

00:46:26.540 Or the deep, but by the way, it's just not Democrats. It's deep state. If they find,

00:46:30.180 if they find a rhino Republican, they'll do that, right? This is the deep state. Rudy, Rudy, 1.00

00:46:35.400 let me be blunt, because you're my mentor, and you're a dear friend of mine and a colleague

00:46:39.740 and all that. Do you still have, can you, do you still have your fastball? Could you take this on

00:46:44.540 and be successful in this? You still got your fastball, brother?

00:46:47.160 You know, it's the thing I do. I told you, it's the only thing I really do well, which is prosecute

00:46:51.620 cases. And I started doing it when I was a baby. I was taught by the very, very best, Judge Lloyd F.

00:46:57.760 McMahon, the judge I clerked for. I was able to try big cases when I started in the U.S. Attorney's

00:47:03.720 office. And if you look back on the 20th century, I prosecuted probably some of the most difficult

00:47:09.480 and important cases. And I was the last U.S. Attorney in the Southern District to go to court

00:47:14.540 and prosecute his own cases. Plus, when I was number three in the Justice Department under

00:47:20.420 Ronald Reagan, I went around the country arguing cases in the Court of Appeals for practice,

00:47:26.060 including in the Supreme Court. That's what I really love to do and really know how to do.

00:47:30.860 And I've had this case in mind now for, as you know, from, I did the first step.

00:47:37.340 Hang on. You can present yourself to the, I see, I know the bona fides. You can present

00:47:42.280 yourself to the president and say, I still got my fastball. I can get this done for the

00:47:46.220 country. Correct?

00:47:47.720 Yeah. Yeah. And if I, if I, if I had anything, I would tell him I'm not a liar like the guy

00:47:53.140 in the White House. I understand. And I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm on the air three, three to four hours a

00:47:59.320 day. No, it's amazing. We love your show. Okay. Rudy, another thing, Arizona, you and Eastman,

00:48:05.760 two of the leaders of our movement, the, the, the guys they've dumped law for against what's

00:48:10.440 happening in Arizona. Is that case going forward? Did it get dropped? Is it going back to a grand

00:48:14.260 jury? It's kind of confusing the way it's written. So what's happening?

00:48:16.640 About, about seven or eight months ago, the judge said he was very, he was questioning the case.

00:48:23.660 He thought it was politically motivated. He didn't think they had enough evidence.

00:48:27.520 And he gave the prosecutors three months to justify the case. So all of us, including Christina,

00:48:34.820 Bob, and a number of others that are involved in this, thought, well, that was the end of the case.

00:48:39.080 The prosecutor came back, tried to justify the case. Now, now the judges said they didn't,

00:48:45.400 they didn't properly explain the law to the grand jury. He forgot that he originally said it was

00:48:52.120 politically motivated. Hang on, wait for it. Audience, you know, the law they didn't explain,

00:48:55.580 the electoral count act of 1887. You ever heard that before, folks? That's what the whole case is

00:49:01.220 about. This entire thing. They never explained it to the, they never explained it to the grand jury.

00:49:05.000 That is a rigged deal, Rudy. It's a rigged deal. Now, now he wants to give him an opportunity to,

00:49:11.120 he's given him an opportunity to do it again. So of course we're going to appeal it. I mean,

00:49:15.220 how many times, how many times do you get to politically indict someone? Twice?

00:49:21.940 He already has said, he questioned whether it was a political indictment.

00:49:25.640 I don't, I don't understand what's going on. I don't understand what's going on in Georgia.

00:49:29.760 That case is still there. And the president is still a defendant in that case.

00:49:34.820 My case is useless. It's gone. It's no case.

00:49:37.720 Half of it's been thrown out. The other half, I mean, it's going to have to await her getting out 0.53

00:49:45.660 of jail, I guess, to prosecute. It's absurd that they keep these cases going. And these are,

00:49:51.960 one is a state with a Republican governor, Georgia, and the other is a state, of course,

00:49:57.060 with a, with a very bitter Democratic governor and an attorney general. But my goodness, I mean,

00:50:03.480 the case is that, Rudy, you have a Republican governor, but he ain't a MAGA governor. Okay.

00:50:08.400 Yeah. He would love you and Trump. He would love you and Trump.

00:50:11.200 He's an automatically. Yeah. Okay. But I mean, this is ridiculous that it's still pending.

00:50:17.500 Okay. So the war and posse, we're going to get all over this. Rudy is the special

00:50:21.080 prosecutor, special counsel. Where do people go to get your content? The social media,

00:50:26.260 the website, the four hours a day. Uh, also, uh, the beautiful, the beautiful and vivacious

00:50:33.520 Dr. Maria Ryan, where they get her stuff to, where, where, where do you go to get us?

00:50:37.320 The Wendell TV and X, both. You can get us on both.

00:50:41.920 Wendell TV and X. Okay. Perfect. Rudy, you're a scholar and a warrior. People love you, but, uh,

00:50:49.040 I think this may be your biggest, this assignment will be only, the only thing bigger is when you

00:50:53.420 were America's mayor and got us through nine 11, but this will be huge because it's a scandal.

00:50:57.760 You agree dwarfs Watergate. Well, this would be, this would be a, this would be a, um, this

00:51:04.600 would be a great honor, honor to do it. And I certainly am able to do it. And I don't think

00:51:10.960 there's anyone that knows the case better than I do. Um, so, and if also, also if, uh, the thought

00:51:17.120 was somebody else should do it, I'd be more than happy to be special advisor and help to show

00:51:22.140 them the way through it. Yep. But anything to get justice. You do agree that we can't do this

00:51:28.380 with some congressional committee, that DOJ is too overwhelmed with what they got. You need a

00:51:33.060 special counsel that sets itself aside and this is what their focus. This would have fallen apart

00:51:39.060 four years ago if it was put in front of a grand jury. Uh, the difference between a grand jury and

00:51:43.700 a congressional investigation, even when the investigators are good and we've had some really

00:51:48.900 lousy ones, but not all, but we've had some that have really screwed it up congressional

00:51:53.240 investigators. But in fairness, uh, the power of a grand jury is enormous. I mean, they can

00:51:59.900 not, not testify. The other option is jail immediately, immediately. Good. You walk out

00:52:06.580 of the grand jury and you go into, into the same prison. If you're in the Southern district

00:52:10.540 that Epstein committed suicide in. Ha ha. Yeah. I'm not buying that one. I love Bungino.

00:52:17.140 I don't buy that one either. I'm not buying, I'm not, we got, we got, Alex Jones is going

00:52:21.220 to join us tomorrow. We're going to talk about that. Rudy, we love you. I know that jail backwards

00:52:25.300 and forwards. I helped to build it. Well, have you, maybe I'll have you back on with Alex

00:52:30.160 tomorrow. Anyway, Rudy, we're going to make the pitch. Rudy Giuliani is the special counsel

00:52:37.420 to actually get to the bottom, adjudicate and get to the bottom of the biggest scandal in American

00:52:44.740 political history. That's the illegitimate Biden regime, all of it. And it ain't just Democrats.

00:52:50.220 Ray, it's Barr, it's all of them. Short commercial break. When we return, we're going to go to Geneva.

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Bannon's War Room - May 21, 2025

Episode 4501： The Big Beautiful Bill; Building The Iron Dome

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