00:04:58.000Where do people go for all your social media?
00:05:01.000Since you're the lone guard, I guess, today on the media side at the White House.
00:05:09.000Natalie Juenters, on all social media platforms, wish me luck.
00:05:12.000I'm about to tape another interview, probably a debate with a legacy media outlet, a foreign globalist one at that.
00:05:18.000Hold it, I hope they've looked at your previous one, and the interviewer definitely has some ability to come back when you start pulling them up,
00:05:28.000because you've got a pretty perfect track record so far.
00:05:44.000You know, and Captain Fennell has been sent me another great bunch of information about the cables.
00:05:50.000I mean, does the Chinese Communist Party, you think right now, actually have an embedded kill switch into America's energy, electrical, logistics, all of it, sir?
00:06:08.000The last 91%, last six years, 91% of what's been applied here in power generation space has been solar and wind and inverters.
00:06:17.000Of that 70% solar, of that 87% of the solar is made in China.
00:06:22.000So they have a massive installed base here now, solar panels and inverters.
00:06:27.000The inverters, and they were called out by even Reuters 10 days ago, discovered in the UK and here now by regulators.
00:06:34.000The inverters, the switch that converts power from useless DC to usable, efficient AC, but can also control an entire array of solar panels to shut it down remotely.
00:06:46.000And we've now discovered sensors, even according to Reuters, who are the left of the leftist media on energy, in solar panels here and inverters here.
00:06:57.000These were previously discovered also in a couple of Chinese made power transformers taken to the Sandia labs back in 2017 for examination where kill switches were found in them also.
00:07:09.000So they're, you know, these guys are not our friend.
00:07:14.000They are an enemy of the country, the CCP specifically.
00:07:32.000Their ability to shut down, and as you grow more of this installed base, the more serious one of these events can be to bring down the whole grid.
00:07:57.000The incentives alone are a massive cash flow drain on the country.
00:08:01.000And if you look at the direct line of what the incentives are doing is incentivizing the manufacturing and importation of Chinese power generation equipment.
00:08:11.00080% of the incentives support battery storage, solar power, and the battery storage made necessary by intermittent part-time solar power, all made in China, 87% of it.
00:08:52.000To make the pitch that the administration has to make that the scoring is kind of off because CBO only tastes in certain variables.
00:09:01.000Do you believe a better case has to be made by the White House and the administration on the great job they've done of making plentiful and cheap energy the foundational element of our economic renaissance?
00:09:15.000And to show how that leads into this three, three and a half percent growth rate, sir.
00:09:20.000Yeah, there's there are some additional great things happening.
00:09:23.000I mean, Chris Wright has been very outspoken about keeping open all the power plants that are scheduled out of close in the next three years of about 130 gigawatts of power plants coal oil and gas are on the docks to be shut down in the next three years.
00:09:37.000They all provide baseload continuous duty energy, just the act of having the DOE step in through FERC and mandate to show cause that you can't shut these down unless you have 24 hour a day dispatchable sources to replace them.
00:09:50.000I think he's going to go in that direction.
00:09:52.000That by itself is a great move to restore confidence in US energy markets electricity wise.
00:09:58.000The the the offshore production oil and gas has been terrific, terrific progress in that front.
00:10:04.000You've seen in gas prices at the pump, significant progress there.
00:10:09.000Dave Walsh, where do people go to get all your information on social media, sir?
00:10:13.000You can find me on getter X and true social Dave Walsh energy.
00:10:28.000He's got a lot to say about the big, beautiful bill.
00:10:30.000The Wall Street Journal just tweeted out.
00:10:32.000Ben, I want to make sure everybody understands this, because this is a critical or a whole discussion of the Vatican and Pope Leo and everything that's going on in the Chinese Communist Party.
00:10:41.000The writer of this magnificent piece from the Wall Street Journal about the cash flow problem at the Vatican.
00:10:48.000It's not bankrupt because it's got unbelievable assets, but it's it has a liquidity problem because the the base of the traditionalist part of the church cut them off from cash in the last couple of years, given the radicalness of Bergoglio.
00:11:04.000And this is the reason that this is why I was able to predict that Cardinal Prevost would be 10 days before the conclave would be selected as pope because they need an American, just somebody that's not too American for the big donors to rip off on.
00:11:17.000And now that Wall Street Journal, I guess, writers finally seeing the clips and going, wow, what world we live in?
00:11:22.000Explain our logic here to the Wall Street Journal reporter, sir.
00:11:26.000Steve, this is just a zoom out one moment.
00:11:37.000OK, but this article has underlined everything that this show has been saying over the last five week period since the death of Pope Francis and almost to the word.
00:11:49.000So that's the first point I want to make.
00:11:53.000And I make this every time I get the opportunity now to the best news show in the world to break down what is actually happening in the Catholic Church is the war room.
00:12:05.000Everything else, especially if it has the word Catholic in the title, is just feeding you sentimental based propaganda and BS.
00:12:13.000If you actually want to know what is happening in the Catholic Church today, this is the only credible outlook for that.
00:12:20.000Right. And that's, you know, Steve, you just in your introduction gave the perfect setup for that.
00:12:24.000You were saying you're talking about Cardinal Prevost.
00:12:28.000You also said this very argument, which we have been talking about on the on the war room.
00:12:34.000This very argument that the reason they went the Cardinal that the conclave went for Prevost was about the money was about getting the donations back online.
00:12:42.000And you fed that article right through to the, I think it was Corriere della Sera in the dominated for 24 hours, the Italian press debate.
00:12:50.000Right. This is why this show is so important.
00:12:53.000And I just say that because I do read all the comments on my get that I do know there's a lot of evangelicals that say, you know, why all this stuff about the Catholic Church?
00:13:00.000They is extremely important if you're starting from the the idea that culture is upstream of politics.
00:13:07.000The liberal elites captured the papacy with Bergoglio.
00:13:12.000And then within two years of the start of that pontificate, this phenomenon of woke came out.
00:13:19.000So what is happening in the Catholic Church is extremely important for these political battles we're fighting.
00:13:24.000Steve, I'm going to come back after the break and dig down on this story in the Wall Street Journal.
00:13:28.000It's extremely important that people understand.
00:13:31.000And the point here, Steve, that this is shows, I actually think, the power of the war room audience, the power of the war room posse.
00:13:39.000The Catholic MAGA, the media is already starting to call it because we have the purse strings.
00:13:45.000When people say, what can you do? The Catholic Church is a hierarchy.
00:13:48.000They have all the power. It's not true, folks. It's not true.
00:13:52.000We hold the Catholic Church in our hands now because, as you say, as you said to the Corriere della Sera,
00:13:58.000Catholic Church isn't bankrupt because it has so many fine assets, but it is an illiquid institution.
00:14:04.000And I think that this Catholic MAGA, that if it exerts its pressure correctly, we will start to affect change.
00:14:16.000We are also going to have about the CPAC that's going to take place in Hungary and Poland.
00:14:21.000A lot going on as we kick off our Memorial Day coverage.
00:14:24.000Next in the war room, very honored to bring in one of the top public intellectuals about populism and economic nationalism.
00:14:32.000He's not exactly thrilled with the big, beautiful bill as it currently stands, or at least Politico is reporting that.
00:14:38.000Orrin Cass will join us on the other side. Back in the warm in just a moment.
00:14:43.000But I'm American made. I got American power. I got American faith in America's heart.
00:15:00.000If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's A.I. and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever.
00:15:09.000And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document.
00:15:15.000Use a fake notary stamp, pay small fee with your county and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name.
00:15:23.000Then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property.
00:15:28.000You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice.
00:15:34.000So let me ask you, when was the last time you personally checked your home title?
00:15:40.000If you're like me, the answer is never.
00:15:43.000And that's exactly what scammers are counting on.
00:16:22.000The CBO scoring, I believe, which is tenure scoring and it's D.C. style scoring.
00:16:27.000So we think that we can both grow the economy and control the debt.
00:16:33.000And what's important, Bill, is that the economy grows faster than the debt.
00:16:37.000So what I would tell your viewers to focus on is what I'm focused on, is what Secretary Yellen was focused on, is what is the total debt to GDP?
00:16:46.000Because we can grow our way out of this.
00:16:48.000That if we change the growth trajectory of the country, of the economy, then we will stabilize our finances and grow our way out of it.
00:17:03.000I would also recommend to our former contributor, Secretary of the Treasury, Besant, that I do believe the 6.5% of deficit to GDP and bending that arc down to 3.5% because what we're on now is not sustainable.
00:17:18.000And, of course, I don't think I agree with him.
00:17:21.000I don't think that they're putting that all in there, particularly to make sure that we have tariffs, all the cash flow from tariffs, and also to justify the growth rate.
00:17:30.000And that's what we had Dave Walsh on to talk about energy, which I think is the central part of this.
00:17:36.000Joining us now, Orrin Cass from American Compass.
00:17:39.000Orrin, you're considered our public intellectual, kind of the leading populist economics expert out there.
00:17:48.000Huge article in Politico, I think it was yesterday, that you're not totally thrilled with what you saw in the big, beautiful bill, and you think some changes could be made.
00:17:56.000Just walk us through it, you know, from an economic populist point of view, your perspective of where we stand with this as it goes, and Ron Johnson and others are trying to combat this in the Senate.
00:18:08.000Where do you think we stand right now?
00:18:10.000Well, I just think it's been incredibly frustrating to see what sort of happened in Congress here.
00:18:17.000I really appreciate the chance to talk with you about it, Steve, because, you know, you've been someone who's been out there.
00:18:22.000I think, like, we have been making the case that if you're going to do populism right, you do have to, for instance, talk about taxes.
00:18:29.000And so, you know, I think the President, Secretary Besant sort of raised this idea, maybe we do need to be thinking about raising some taxes on the highest income earners, because that's an important part of making all this work.
00:18:42.000If you want to do some of the spending cuts that we really need to do and that are in the bill, you've got to pair that by showing you're going to ask those at the top end to bear some of the burden, too.
00:18:53.000If you want to actually tackle the deficit, you've got to show that you are willing to add some more revenue.
00:18:58.000And so I think there's some really good stuff in the bill.
00:19:01.000You know, as I noted in the Politico piece, the way that they're treating business investment is really important.
00:19:08.000They've got the child tax credit expanded.
00:19:11.000That's going to be very good for families.
00:19:13.000But I think if we really want to push forward in a way that addresses America's problem and that takes seriously the, you know, the President's base, it's got to both do the spending cuts.
00:20:14.000They got to go full on and say from tariff revenues coming back, because there's no calculation right now of what I understand is $300 billion to $600 billion, potentially annual cash and revenues from tariffs.
00:20:46.000I think, you know, populism, if you want to think about a productive populism that rebalances things, it starts to go too far when you just say, you know, we can't touch anything.
00:20:56.000Because the reality is that spending has gotten way too high, especially post-pandemic, you know, it never went back to pre-pandemic levels.
00:21:04.000Our health care system in particular, just, you know, one thing this bill does well, I think, for instance, is go after the hospital side of things.
00:21:12.000Like, it's just not true that all of our health care spending is going to providing people with good care.
00:21:17.000There's a lot that is not going where it needs to go at all.
00:21:21.000And so, I think focusing on some of these reforms, insisting that we start to bring spending back down, that's great.
00:21:27.000But, and I just, you know, it always has to be said, if you take the savings from those sorts of spending cuts and just plow them into reducing tax rates more, especially for people at the top, you can't claim that you've actually solved any problems.
00:21:46.000We've just taken those savings that we need and sent them right back out the door.
00:21:50.000And so, that's where I think, substantively, if you're going to make the case that you're addressing the deficit, you have to be willing to do things on both sides.
00:21:58.000And then, politically, if you want to ask people to bear some cost here, to say, look, guys, you know, what's happening is unsustainable.
00:22:09.000You have to show that you're asking everybody to share in this, and you can't do it and then simultaneously say, and here's this giant tax cut on the other side.
00:22:21.000Or, the staffs of all the guys in the Senate, a minute when the Senate, you know, watch us send clips, so this will be viewed over the weekend.
00:22:30.000The Senate now has it, and we know behind closed doors that a lot of the senators are saying, hey, we got to do something here to make these numbers better.
00:22:38.000And one of the ways we got to look at is potentially not giving, not extending the tax cut to the upper bracket or put in a new category of millionaires at 40%.
00:22:48.000But make sure we take care of the entrepreneurs because you don't want to kill the job creators.
00:22:51.000Make your best case. We've got a couple of minutes here.
00:22:53.000Make your best case to the Senate of the bill coming out now, because this will be a firestorm if they take this part on.
00:23:00.000What is Oren Kass's best argument for why this needs to be considered by the Senate to come out of their bill?
00:23:07.000Well, first of all, just to make the math work, the math is going to look a lot better if instead of doing a big tax cut at the top, you actually let rates go back or up a little bit at the top.
00:23:20.000The flip side is those aren't the pieces of the policy that are what's most important for the growth.
00:23:27.000The tax policy that you really need for the growth is the stuff like the business investment, which should absolutely be in there.
00:23:33.000You know, the corporate rate cuts were already made permanent, so you don't have to even be talking about those.
00:23:38.000And so if you're making the substantive economic case, you have to be more concerned about the deficit.
00:23:44.000You have to look at what's happening in the market and with interest rates when people think Congress isn't serious about the deficit.
00:23:50.000And so for all of those reasons, you have to be willing to say, and by the way, this is what the president said.
00:25:05.000Are you happy where it stands today, or do you think that really has to be really to what the President said?
00:25:10.000We have to have no tax on Social Security.
00:25:12.000Honestly, I think given everything that we already are dealing with in the bill, I would much rather see the current bill get to a sort of sustainable place before we start adding additional stuff on top of it.
00:25:26.000And so I think, you know, there's lots of other tax reform we could be doing, but I wouldn't be looking for additional tax cuts before we've shown that we can actually move in a more fiscally serious way that is actually going to lay a good foundation for growth.
00:25:40.000And that would be exemplified by the bond market, particularly the tens and the out years.
00:25:57.000So American Compass is celebrating its fifth anniversary this month.
00:26:01.000We've been sort of trying to build the case and the policy agenda for doing economic populism right,
00:26:07.000and actually reorienting the economy toward working people and working families and doing that in a way that's consistent with conservative principles.
00:26:16.000I have a new book coming out called The New Conservatives that kind of lays all that out and especially would love for people to check out.
00:26:23.000We have a magazine now called Commonplace at commonplace.org that I think just has all the best new thinking on this.
00:26:29.000One of our advisors, Daniel Kishi, just did a fantastic piece on public opinion about labor, saying there are some pro-labor reforms that are really popular even with Republicans,
00:26:39.000and we should be doing those even as we recognize there are others that are unpopular and we shouldn't be doing.
00:26:45.000And so, you know, love for people to check that out and hope we can talk about some more of it in the future.
00:26:51.000Or real quickly, the book, where can people pre-order? This book is a collection of articles you've put up before all in one place.
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00:30:19.000July 6th in Rio, the British nations are coming together, and they're not coming together to help the United States of America.
00:30:25.000This is kind of the global south coming together to see how they put the screws to us.
00:30:30.000And some of that may be well-deserved, given the breach of fiduciary responsibility we've had between the elites in this country and the American people.
00:30:37.000What is President Trump trying to set right?
00:31:15.000I went over to South Korea, I met with the now, I guess you'd call him deposed president of South Korea, who said that in the lead up to the elections there, he was up by double digits and he ends up winning by just a tiny amount.
00:31:28.000This is happening over and over again to any of the candidates that are outside the establishment.
00:31:34.000In most of these countries, Steve, there really isn't a conservative movement.
00:32:37.000That's because we have federalism and because we have state and local and federal races that somehow that makes it slower for a computer to count or tabulate.
00:32:45.000Or Americans have just gotten that much dumber over the course of the last 50 years, which I don't believe.
00:32:50.000So elections is at the center of this fight we're having everywhere around the globe.
00:32:57.000So is that one of the highlights in Poland?
00:33:00.000You're you're showing up in Poland with is the is a second round this Sunday is a fine thing.
00:33:14.000Poland's first round was on the same day as Romania's second round.
00:33:18.000And so the candidate we favor, Nowacki, apologize to him if I've said his name with with an American accent.
00:33:25.000But he he was very close to coming in first.
00:33:29.000I think it was like a point or so that separated them.
00:33:31.000And so now it's the drive to the second round.
00:33:34.000And so CPAC Poland will be occurring right at the perfect time to try to have an influence.
00:33:40.000Now, look, we don't do electioneering over there, but we're trying to bring up to the people in these countries how important these fundamental questions are.
00:33:48.000Think about it, Steve. Religious freedom.
00:33:50.000The idea that you can be a practicing Christian and not not have that somehow destroy your reputation in your career.
00:33:57.000Europe getting back to what made Europe great.
00:33:59.000Europe can't be great if there are no families having babies.
00:34:02.000Victor Orban figured this out in Hungary.
00:34:04.000And as you're talking to Orin about populist tax policies, remember what Hungary did with their taxes to say you have a kid, you pay less income taxes.
00:34:20.000That's the type of things we need to do to make sure that our cultural values continue.
00:34:25.000How can we here in the United States make sure we stream it?
00:34:30.000You've got a team of all stars, both in country and guys coming from the United States, men and women from the United States.
00:34:36.000How can we participate this week in either the streaming or catching up, et cetera?
00:34:40.000Because as you know, our audience has a very strong interest in Hungary and a very strong interest in Poland and a very strong interest in CPAC.
00:34:47.000Look, Hungary is where George Soros spends most money to make a difference.
00:34:52.000And so we've got to hold on to Victor Orban's policies and to him.
00:34:58.000And then we have Barack Obama and all these other people being paid to be in Poland.
00:35:03.000They know that if they lose this election in Poland, that's a big blow to the globalists.
00:35:08.000So you can follow me on Twitter at MSchlapp or go to our website at CPAC.org and we will lead you to all the places, all the platforms where you can watch the content.
00:35:18.000We also have to be careful about all the regulators in Brussels and still in Washington, D.C. that try to, you know, keep CPAC from broadcasting as widely as we should, Steve, shall I say.
00:35:30.000But don't worry, we'll get all the important content to folks and we're going to make a big difference in these countries.
00:35:38.000These countries are calling us and saying we've got to have CPAC and it's not just CPAC.
00:35:43.000There's a lot of great groups that are doing great work in our country.
00:35:46.000We've got to build this conservative populist movement.
00:35:49.000And everybody wants a piece, their version of MAGA, because they know that they're outgunned, they're outfinanced, that there's lawfare and all these other things and they're trying to figure out a way to outsmart it.
00:36:01.000Donald Trump gave the whole world a boost of hope that we can win this battle, but the battle is right now.
00:36:09.000Rumor has it that you're trying to put together some sort of team to make sure we get election integrity in South Korea for the upcoming election.
00:36:16.000Any truth of that, that Korea CPAC is hard at work behind the scenes?
00:36:21.000You know, I'm just worried that someone could be watching your show, Steve.
00:36:26.000But yeah, of course, we're engaged in all of these questions.
00:36:30.000And Korea is a very important country to us.
00:36:32.000I was told that Huawei runs the election software in South Korea.
00:37:08.000By the way, you got Poso, Mo Bannon, many others are going over for both who have a whole roster of the War Room and other of our colleagues that are doing this.
00:37:17.000Absolutely incredible for people to take the time to do it.
00:37:19.000They got our brothers and sisters in Poland and in Hungary and throughout the world.
00:37:25.000Natalie Dominguez, every time you already tell me a story that scares the devil out of me, what do you got for me today?
00:37:33.000I keep telling people, hey, particularly in the turbulence we got going on in the world right now, if you own a home, if you've got that thing called a title, you've got to embrace it every night for your dear life.
00:37:44.000Home title lock is the company Gibson protection.
00:37:50.000We got this story about two days ago, and then I have a little personal one for you after.
00:37:53.000So two men from Houston, Texas, are being sued by Harris County for filing fraudulent transfer deeds to take ownership of multiple homes and then selling them to unsuspecting buyers.
00:38:03.000One of the victims talked about the home that her and her family were taking care of that had been passed down from her grandparents who had passed away.
00:38:13.000And one day in 2022, so a few years ago, they found out that someone else's name was on the title and none of her family members knew what was going on.
00:38:21.000So we talk about, you know, potential targets pretty often.
00:38:24.000And I think this story is a perfect example of that because these men targeted homes that belong to people who had just recently passed away or, you know, you call them heir properties.
00:38:34.000Right. In some of the cases, the deeds were transferred just days after the person had passed away, the owner.
00:38:40.000And in one of the cases, hours after they had passed away.
00:38:45.000They we don't know if they had people on the inside or what kind of happened.
00:38:49.000But I mean, think about being a victim of a family member who, like, let's say your grandparent or your parent passes away.
00:38:55.000You're dealing with, you know, funeral arrangements, emotional distress and all these things.
00:39:01.000The last thing on your mind is watching, you know, their home title and making sure that fraudsters and scammers aren't going in and trying to do this.
00:39:08.000I think it's ridiculous that the county attorney is suing these men for a million dollars in damages for some of these steps going back a couple of years.
00:39:17.000They kind of found this pattern with these men.
00:39:19.000But one thing we're not seeing here is a criminal suit or jail time.
00:39:26.000And these guys are just walking around free to do this again to unsuspecting homeowners.
00:39:32.000And that is so scary to me that there is just like in so many places no criminal, you know, wrongdoings for these these criminals that are going around.
00:39:44.000And so I would urge that if you guys have, you know, family members or people that are close to you that are kind of in that position, they have caretakers in the home.
00:39:51.000You know, we say we always talk about A.I. and cyber.
00:39:54.000And, yes, that is absolutely a threat.
00:39:56.000Everything is so much easier to do online now.
00:39:59.000But most of the time, it's it's someone that, you know, in our restoration, oftentimes it's family members, it's caretakers, it's people that are around you.
00:40:07.000And it would not shock me if these men had people on the inside that were feeding them this information because hours after someone passes away, they go in and file these fraudulent paperwork.
00:40:18.000That's terrifying to me that you just can't trust anyone around you.
00:40:37.000Walk us to give me a minute on that again.
00:40:39.000Yeah, they were going through homes or they were going to families whose the owners of the homes passed away and they were filing the fraudulent deeds and transferring the home into their name, which I mean, most people would be none the wiser, right?
00:40:52.000Because that's generally what a quick claim deed is used for is to, you know, transfer property to whoever's going to be inheriting it and on paper.
00:40:59.000So now they're going through this suit with the county attorney.
00:41:02.000They have to even prove that it was fraud in the first place.
00:41:04.000Who's to say that the judge isn't going to rule in their favor and say, oh, well, maybe the elderly person that passed away was giving their home to them for this reason or another.
00:41:23.000So if anything happens on your title, we notify you as soon as it's being filed and it's on record and we're like, hey, this has been filed.
00:41:31.000So let's say, hypothetically, you go through that with your family member.
00:41:34.000You're going to get a notice from us right away if anything happens.
00:41:41.000The most important part of this is that you're going to get a title history report on your title.
00:41:46.000You're going to see anything and everything that's been filed.
00:41:48.000You're going to get a free trial of our million dollar triple lock protection, which is monitoring alerts,
00:41:53.000and we'll spend up to a million dollars to fix the fraud and reverse everything if you are a victim of title fraud.
00:41:59.000Last night, I was hanging out with two of my childhood friends, and one of them said that she recently in the past month and a half has been getting phone calls from real estate agents and all these different things for her parents' property.
00:42:11.000The first thing that we did was went and signed her up because I told her that's the first thing that when people call us to talk about stuff going on, if it's not an alert on their property, anyone that has not been a victim under us and they call us, they go, yeah, I've been getting these weird calls from real estate companies, and that's generally how people start to find out.
00:42:31.000So in my own backyard, stuff's going on.
00:42:34.000We signed her up and sign up today, guys.
00:48:06.000Thank you for co-hosting this morning.
00:48:08.000Mike Lindell, you're having a bet the company moment.
00:48:12.000I want everybody to take a couple of minutes to explain this and then sell me some sheets as we go into this huge Memorial Day weekend, sir.
00:53:22.000We're back live five to seven at night in the war room.
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