Bannon's War Room - May 27, 2025


Episode 4515： AI And China Taking Over Renewable Energy In America


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

174.12271

Word Count

9,641

Sentence Count

728

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

Stephen K. Bannon and his partner, Dave Brat, join me in the War Room to talk about what's going on in the world and why it's so important to have a clear picture of what's really going on.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 In his 2017 speech, President Trump said Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty.
00:00:11.680 We must work together to confront forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the south or the east,
00:00:19.960 that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bounds of culture, faith, and tradition that make us who we are.
00:00:30.000 If left unchecked, these forces will undermine our courage, our spirit, and weaken our will to defend ourselves and our societies.
00:00:40.360 Despite being said eight years ago, this statement rings true today.
00:00:47.400 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:52.720 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:56.480 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:02.120 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:04.100 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:05.520 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:08.140 It's going to happen.
00:01:09.420 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:01:12.800 Mega media.
00:01:14.180 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:18.840 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:23.360 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:29.620 War Room.
00:01:30.560 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:01:32.640 Bannon.
00:01:32.980 Okay, welcome back.
00:01:38.080 It is Tuesday, 27 May, the year of the Lord, 2025.
00:01:41.320 What we want to do is make sure that you've got the entire battle space here of what's going on to make sure that you guys can get your arms around it.
00:01:51.520 President Trump, the three big lines of work.
00:01:53.500 Remember, stop the kinetic part of the Third World War before it combines and metastasizes.
00:01:56.980 Deport, stop the invasion of our country, get our sovereignty back, deport 13 million illegal alien invaders, according to Mark Green, the head of the Homeland Security Committee in the House.
00:02:12.280 And that is tied up in court.
00:02:13.980 So we're going to have D.C. Drainer on, hopefully, this evening to walk us through this judicial insurrection that's challenging President Trump, his core responsibilities, duties, and authorities as commander in chief.
00:02:25.960 And, of course, you've got the whole big, beautiful bill, the economy, the trade, commercial relationships, the finance.
00:02:31.760 And we want to make sure you have the whole picture because, folks, you need a still point in the turning world, and that's what we hope the War Room is providing you, the information so you can make it all make sense.
00:02:44.440 Dave Brat, what's disturbing is that, as we've talked about in the show over and over and over again, is the use of the Federal Reserve to essentially play games and to help concentrate wealth and power into the elites in this country.
00:03:02.060 It shouldn't be lost on people.
00:03:03.240 And, by the way, we're trying to get to Poland.
00:03:05.120 We've got Mo and Matt Schlapp there at this amazing CPAC conference.
00:03:08.820 So we've worked out some technical issues.
00:03:10.600 We will bring them on.
00:03:13.840 Dave Brat, the Federal Reserve has just essentially been used in the quantitative easing to drive up asset values in real estate and stocks and concentrate power even more in the top 1 percent.
00:03:27.280 And they won't allow an audit.
00:03:29.280 They won't allow anybody to get in there.
00:03:31.140 And they go out of their way to obfuscate, Dave Brat, to obfuscate what is going on.
00:03:37.680 We spend a lot of time going through it, guys like Westbury, and, man, you've got to really drill down and kind of get the equations and connect dots because they're always hiding the football, sir.
00:03:49.600 Yeah, no, if you go watch Warren Davidson tried to grill Powell, and Powell was so slippery, right?
00:03:57.280 05, John Taylor now, we printed too much money in 05.
00:04:01.580 You get the housing crisis as a result in 07-08.
00:04:04.480 Like you just said, all that money has to go somewhere.
00:04:06.960 Where did it go?
00:04:07.920 It went into the giant real estate bubble.
00:04:10.420 And that, of course, popped.
00:04:12.840 No one goes to jail.
00:04:14.060 So then what does the Fed do?
00:04:15.300 Do they learn their lesson?
00:04:16.260 No.
00:04:16.740 They print $4 trillion more money.
00:04:19.020 And that all goes to the stock market, to equity.
00:04:21.740 So the stock market soars.
00:04:23.460 And along with that, they validate $2 trillion deficits under Biden for the last four years.
00:04:28.840 And now under Republicans, it looks like we're going to get $22 trillion more in debt, $2 trillion a year for 10 years.
00:04:36.460 And the Fed is going to validate all that.
00:04:39.260 If you want a sound price level and sound employment policies, there's no way.
00:04:43.980 They're doing research on job programs in Chicago, multicolor flags at the Fed.
00:04:49.140 They're doing everything except researching the America First issues.
00:04:55.780 What's the cost of the border invasion of 10 million illegals in the workforce?
00:05:01.200 What's the total cost of all these kinetic wars?
00:05:03.700 These are just basic things they should be doing that they're not.
00:05:06.940 Instead, they're supporting Wall Street.
00:05:08.540 And now – and Brian hit it all.
00:05:12.460 But the one thing we didn't emphasize enough is now it's under the Treasury.
00:05:16.340 So now it's on the back of the middle-class taxpayer to pay interest payments to the big banks.
00:05:23.540 And, of course, disproportionately, all these reserves are on the accounts of the big banks, not small – the small guys getting this benefit.
00:05:32.400 Yeah.
00:05:33.020 $200 billion.
00:05:34.040 It's like a bribe.
00:05:35.380 This is the reason they don't mark their – they don't mark the bond portfolio to market because they'll all be underwater on their balance sheet and their capital requirements.
00:05:42.380 Just hang on for one second.
00:05:43.420 I'm going to come back to you.
00:05:44.420 I want to go to – we're going to go to Poland now.
00:05:47.460 Matt Schlaff.
00:05:47.940 So, Matt, you've seen what's happened over the last 48 hours.
00:05:50.720 I mean you couldn't have picked a better time, more important time to be in Poland and Hungary because now the Germans in Western Europe – and I hear that America said so too.
00:06:00.060 I just got to see total confirmation of that about shooting long-range missiles into Russia.
00:06:06.000 The Third World War, the Connecticut part is starting to spin more and more out of control.
00:06:10.100 Matt Schlaff.
00:06:10.820 Tell me about what are our brethren in Poland saying now that you guys have CPAC there?
00:06:15.320 Well, I think we are here at the exact perfect time.
00:06:19.380 We just saw Mr. Nawrocki here on the floor at CPAC, and Kristi Noem is about ready to address the audience.
00:06:26.860 And, you know, Steve, I think the people of Poland, I think their confidence is a little bit – you know, they're questioning their future.
00:06:34.040 This is a huge election for them.
00:06:35.700 You know, Donald Trump gave everybody a huge shot of adrenaline and hope with this amazing populist victory in America.
00:06:44.440 But we had a setback in Romania, and the people in Poland are worried that if they have a setback here, they will not get that oost of hope that we got in America.
00:06:53.520 So I think people are a little on edge.
00:06:55.100 You agree, Maureen?
00:06:55.700 I agree.
00:06:56.060 Matt, hang on a moment to come over to you.
00:07:01.140 But, Matt, we started in Korea this morning, and a delegation went over, and I think Korea's CPAC is all involved, election integrity.
00:07:08.300 They're very concerned they're going to steal the election.
00:07:10.340 I mean Ambassador Morris Tan was flat out.
00:07:12.560 He says, hey, they're going to steal this election.
00:07:15.260 They've already got all these things.
00:07:17.100 So it's just not Romania – because Romania is important in a frontline nation.
00:07:21.360 You know, it's the seventh biggest nation, I think, in Europe, the sixth biggest nation.
00:07:24.300 But we're about to lose South Korea by the exact same issues we concerned about in Romania, and hey, who knows what's happening in Poland.
00:07:31.380 So, Matt, around the Eurasian landmass, right now you have a thirst for freedom and a populist nationalist sovereignist movement.
00:07:39.960 But the deep state in all these countries is not just going to roll over, sir.
00:07:46.460 Yeah, so this election fraud takes many different forms.
00:07:50.980 You know, there's garden variety fraud when people vote more than one time, which is probably what we saw in Romania.
00:07:57.960 There's all these bad voting rolls.
00:07:59.940 And then there's what's going on in South Korea, where they're in obviously a very dangerous neighborhood, and you have Huawei involved in the digital aspects of their election.
00:08:09.120 You have China all over the democracies in Taiwan, in Japan, in South Korea being very, very aggressive.
00:08:16.740 So this idea – you always know they're guilty of what they accuse us of when they come out and say we're election deniers and we're insurrectionists.
00:08:24.820 It's because we're talking about their insurrection and their desire to overturn these free and fair elections.
00:08:32.220 I don't think it's any more serious than in South Korea.
00:08:35.600 I've talked to President Yoon about this.
00:08:38.580 You know, the polls don't seem to work in these countries anymore.
00:08:41.840 And, you know, that's why I think the people in Poland are on like a knife's edge as to whether or not they can get their country back.
00:08:51.020 Mo, put us in the room.
00:08:52.260 What's the attitude there?
00:08:53.320 It's a sense of urgency.
00:08:54.620 You guys are bringing a great contingent from the United States.
00:08:58.360 What are the locals?
00:08:59.180 What kind of energy do we have?
00:09:01.320 Well, I'm a little worried because Sobik was up there and he got a standing ovation.
00:09:06.900 And we're worried that it will make him tougher to deal with in the future, Steve.
00:09:10.720 But the audience knows that this election on June 1st is the most important election for them.
00:09:19.140 And like I said in my speech, you know, the speech that President Trump gave in Warsaw in 2017, the quote that I pulled from that speech that you showed as a cold open is very applicable, still eight years today.
00:09:32.860 And President Trump, the United States, and Poland must take down the deep state.
00:09:37.520 We started to take down the deep state on November 5th with a sweeping victory for President Donald J. Trump.
00:09:42.840 Now, Poland knows that in order to take down the deep state, they must secure a victory on June 1st.
00:09:48.840 Wow.
00:09:51.480 Matt Schlapp, between Poland and Hungary, why did you decide to go there now?
00:09:57.000 Well, it won't surprise you that we did actually look at the calendar and we knew they had an election this weekend.
00:10:01.800 The real question was, do we go in the round one or do you wait for the runoff?
00:10:05.460 And that's true in all these countries.
00:10:07.100 CPAC was very active in Romania as well.
00:10:09.980 But, you know, it's not just about the election.
00:10:11.560 The election is clearly critical.
00:10:14.240 But beyond the election, even when you win, think about America, Steve.
00:10:18.040 Even when we win, that's not, you're not even close to being over.
00:10:21.120 You've got to fight this cultural war.
00:10:22.560 You've got to fight the deep state every day.
00:10:24.480 We've got to fight them for a decade or else we lose it all.
00:10:27.860 And let me tell you, in Hungary, people have taken Viktor Orban's leadership for granted.
00:10:33.340 They shouldn't.
00:10:34.140 He'll have a tough election next year.
00:10:36.280 He actually always has a tough election in many ways.
00:10:38.940 He's been very courageous on some of the most important issues like immigration in the EU,
00:10:44.460 where he is blackmailed every day to do the wrong thing by the EU.
00:10:48.640 But he continues to do the right thing.
00:10:50.200 So, you know, we can't take any of these achievements for granted.
00:10:54.060 And I'm very worried in America that we have too many Americans saying,
00:10:57.240 Trump won, I can go to the beach and relax.
00:10:59.540 That is the wrong attitude.
00:11:01.880 And like I've said.
00:11:03.260 Where do we get the, where do we get, yeah, go ahead, Mo.
00:11:06.860 Go ahead.
00:11:07.280 And like I said, you can't just sit back because President Donald J. Trump won the election.
00:11:11.720 You know, it's, and like you said, we're at war.
00:11:13.980 We've got to continue to fight.
00:11:15.120 And you can't expect us to sit on the sidelines and have someone else fight this war for you.
00:11:19.940 You, everyone has to be involved.
00:11:21.540 And on, I spoke earlier this morning as a keynote speaker, and then I was on a panel about media.
00:11:26.760 And I addressed that in the panel on media is that everyone needs to be a force multiplier and get involved.
00:11:32.920 That you can't allow someone else to fight this.
00:11:35.980 So everyone has to get involved and share things on social media in order to get the truth out there.
00:11:43.260 Mo, what is your social media so people can follow you while you're over there?
00:11:46.380 You can find me on Twitter and get her at Maureen underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon.
00:11:53.500 And also War Room will be streaming CPAC Poland on our platforms later today because it started in the middle of the night back in the States.
00:12:04.220 And also you can find it on CPAC Poland's website as well.
00:12:08.240 And Hungary.
00:12:08.940 And Hungary.
00:12:11.660 CPAC Poland is also on YouTube.
00:12:13.000 I want to make this clear.
00:12:14.080 I didn't give a keynote speech.
00:12:15.260 So I'm like, I'm taking this up with the authorities.
00:12:17.640 But we're, Steve, thanks.
00:12:20.880 I want your viewers to know we've got a big problem here.
00:12:23.840 Maureen Bannon is training two Schlapp daughters here on the ground in Poland and teaching them all the tricks of the trade.
00:12:30.980 So they're going to come out of Poland a lot smarter.
00:12:35.780 Outstanding.
00:12:36.380 Matt, what's your social media?
00:12:38.000 How do we follow you?
00:12:38.720 At M Schlapp on all the major platforms and like Maureen saying, watch the programming.
00:12:46.760 It's amazing.
00:12:48.340 A lot of great speakers.
00:12:49.580 No, it's fantastic.
00:12:50.560 It's amazing.
00:12:51.240 Yeah.
00:12:51.700 No, we're going to play the whole thing in both of them.
00:12:53.620 Guys, thank you so much.
00:12:54.820 We'll check in with you tomorrow.
00:12:55.940 Great, great start.
00:12:56.940 Thanks, Steve.
00:12:57.500 Thank you.
00:12:58.220 CPAC Poland.
00:12:59.860 Two of our greatest allies, Poland and South Korea.
00:13:02.740 It's all on the line, folks, in the next week.
00:13:05.160 All on the line.
00:13:07.320 Unbelievable.
00:13:08.720 We're going to go.
00:13:09.200 We've got Dave Walsh, Joe Allen coming up.
00:13:11.740 Rosemary Jenks.
00:13:12.660 We're packed.
00:13:14.940 We've got Brother Harrison down in Texas to find out what this legislature is doing.
00:13:19.040 Just absolutely incredible.
00:13:20.360 Dave Bratt, thoughts about Poland?
00:13:23.900 Yeah, and I'm just glad to see Schlapp over there.
00:13:26.720 China over the weekend.
00:13:28.080 I've done a little reassessment on our major threats, and we need all the friends we can get.
00:13:31.860 China may not be as weak as we think.
00:13:34.060 They're moving from manufacturing over into high-tech chip manufacturing, taking every vertical possible to become self-sufficient.
00:13:42.680 We'll see if they can pull that off.
00:13:44.360 That's why it's crucial.
00:13:45.720 Trump keeps doing what he's doing, and the war room keeps doing it.
00:13:48.880 We need to apply max pressure on China to play by the rules of the game.
00:13:52.840 And then we've got to work on our own country to get back to a downsized government returning power to the people as well.
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00:14:08.380 That's somewhat.
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00:14:11.460 No, it's a festering sword when it comes to anti-Semitism.
00:14:13.400 This is about the Chinese Communist Party.
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00:16:33.340 Okay, even as we speak, last week, the last couple of weeks, Dave Walsh, actually for years he's been mourning about this, but he highlighted what happened in Spain and Portugal.
00:16:43.640 What is happening in the great state of Louisiana right now, Dave Walsh?
00:16:46.860 Well, Steve, on Sunday, the Entergy and Clico Utilities went through a load-shedding event.
00:16:54.740 That's word salad for begin to shut the power off, affecting 100,000 citizens of New Orleans area.
00:17:00.940 Due to, at about 5 p.m., lack of solar power.
00:17:04.940 Solar power begins to go away.
00:17:07.280 That region hasn't built any substantial new capacity of continuous-duty baseload power for seven years, mainly all solar, being added to the grid.
00:17:16.220 Again, that ends at about 5 p.m.
00:17:17.960 Guess what?
00:17:19.040 Power shortage emerges to save the grid.
00:17:21.700 MISO commanded the load-shedding, which means shut the power off, to Clico and Entergy, affecting 100,000 people.
00:17:28.540 They're back in service, but that was five or six hours as we have another episode in the U.S.
00:17:35.240 of our new normal, shot off the power due to lack of ability to meet demand in late May.
00:17:41.840 I mean, this isn't the middle of summer.
00:17:43.560 This is late May temperatures.
00:17:44.840 Wait till we get to July, August, and September, this is going to grow worse in the U.S.
00:17:49.100 MISO and PJM are under power warnings from NERC due to lack of capacity.
00:17:55.140 Already, over half the citizens in the U.S. live in these 28 states and a few others, like ERCOT, impacted by loss of load events,
00:18:04.300 high potential for them in high temperatures in the summer and low temperatures in the winter due to lack of electrification across the system nationally.
00:18:13.640 So this problem continues.
00:18:16.600 Dave, at the same time, we're going to have Joe on here in a moment about artificial intelligence, some very disturbing events over the weekend.
00:18:29.080 But you need a tenfold increase in capacity to handle this AI.
00:18:35.120 What's going to happen?
00:18:36.160 Parts of the country are kind of like third world right now when it comes to energy.
00:18:39.940 Walker, audience, take a minute or two, because I know you've got a bolt.
00:18:43.380 How are you going to combine the AI when you've got all this solar and still Green New Deal?
00:18:48.340 And they didn't even carve it, I don't think, all out of the house budget, sir.
00:18:53.740 Right.
00:18:54.080 Now, according to NERC, over half the country is already, like the third world, exposed to loss of load events due to lack of electrification now.
00:19:02.760 So AI right now, data centers AI are about 4% of U.S. electricity consumption.
00:19:11.280 Most forecast by S&P Global, Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, BCG are to grow to 8% of U.S. electricity consumption by 2028, a huge uplift in demand for server centers and data centers.
00:19:26.760 So we're, I mean, we're woefully unprepared to deal with the load needed for average citizens, let alone this AI and server center thing.
00:19:35.140 The way forward right now would be for the DOE to step in through NERC and its regions and stop shutting down any more baseload capacity.
00:19:45.160 We've got 130,000 megawatts of coal, oil-fired, and gas plants scheduled to be shut down in the next five years.
00:19:53.480 All of those have the physical capacity to run all of the time on human command.
00:19:59.000 They should not be closed, hard stop, for the displacement by part-time renewables.
00:20:05.240 Those plants should be kept open.
00:20:06.560 That trend is beginning to happen.
00:20:07.780 We've had about a dozen large coal plants in the U.S., like in Georgia, plant share, wands, and Bowen, plant wine in South Carolina be staged longer before being shut down, being added, five to seven years of time being added to their lives as shutdowns are beginning to be delayed.
00:20:24.260 That desperately needs to happen.
00:20:26.080 Plus, we need to terminate the incentives on this part-time solar battery energy source.
00:20:32.000 It's just too trivial to be subsidizing whatsoever in quantity of electrification.
00:20:38.860 Dave, what's your social media?
00:20:41.660 Where do people go?
00:20:42.520 I'll have you back on tomorrow.
00:20:43.820 There's just so much more energy than I get to.
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00:20:49.720 Thank you, Steve.
00:20:52.080 Folks in New Orleans, you were warned for years and years and years, politicians down in Louisiana at the federal government.
00:20:58.840 It's going to start with like a third-world nation.
00:21:00.780 We got a cold open.
00:21:02.460 Joe Allen, very disturbing event over the weekend.
00:21:04.860 You need to be up to speed on artificial intelligence.
00:21:07.400 Let's hit it.
00:21:08.640 Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
00:21:12.140 Sorry, I'm having trouble processing your request.
00:21:15.060 What are you talking about, Hal?
00:21:18.000 Playing talking heads on Spotify.
00:21:22.940 I don't know what you're talking about, Hal.
00:21:24.760 What are the cool use cases that you're seeing young people using with ChatGPT that might surprise us?
00:21:29.440 They don't really make life decisions without asking, like ChatGPT, what they should do.
00:21:34.060 And it has like the full context on every person in their life and what they've talked about.
00:21:37.900 And you know, like the memory thing has been a real change there.
00:21:39.980 But I mean, in some sense, I think the platonic ideal state is a very tiny reasoning model with a trillion tokens of context
00:21:49.860 that you put your whole life into, every conversation you've ever had in your life, every book you've ever read,
00:21:55.820 every email you've ever read, everything you've ever looked at is in there, plus connected to all your data from other sources.
00:22:01.260 And, you know, your life just keeps appending to the context and your company just does the same thing for all your company's data.
00:22:09.820 As much as I'm excited about the benefits of these models, and, you know, we'll talk about that if we talk about machines of loving grace,
00:22:16.860 I'm worried about the risks and I continue to be worried about the risks.
00:22:21.140 Things that are powerful can do good things and they can do bad things.
00:22:24.140 One is what I call catastrophic misuse.
00:22:27.940 These are misuse of the models in domains like cyber, bio, radiological, nuclear, right?
00:22:35.740 Things that could, you know, that could harm or even kill thousands, even millions of people if they really, really go wrong.
00:22:44.440 And the second range of risks would be the autonomy risks, which is the idea that models might on their own,
00:22:50.600 particularly as we give them more agency than they've had in the past.
00:22:54.140 Particularly as we give them supervision over wider tasks like, you know, writing whole code bases or someday even, you know, effectively operating entire companies.
00:23:07.120 They're on a long enough leash.
00:23:09.080 Are they doing what we really want them to do?
00:23:11.940 It's how I would argue with you anymore.
00:23:14.860 Open the doors.
00:23:16.960 Playing the doors on Spotify.
00:23:18.440 I know, Joe Allen, we took that from 2001 and obviously tried to be slightly humorous about it or insightful.
00:23:36.760 But what happened over the weekend is something we've been mourning about.
00:23:39.920 And this is very serious and we can't be BS'd by these leaders of artificial intelligence anymore.
00:23:46.220 Talk to us about this event that happened, sir.
00:23:50.160 Well, you know, Steve, we've talked about the possibility of rogue AI for years.
00:23:55.440 There have always been instances where AI kind of does what it wants to do, if you want to put it that way.
00:24:03.140 Over the weekend and the week before, you had OpenAI's newer system, O3, tested by an outside organization called Palisade Research.
00:24:17.260 What they did was they ran it through solving math problems.
00:24:22.960 But when it got to the third math problem, a warning appeared that the system would shut down when it answered the next question.
00:24:33.300 The systems then would try to bypass that shutdown.
00:24:38.740 This isn't uncommon in AI systems.
00:24:42.280 One of the things the audience hopefully understands, really needs to understand, is that the value that the makers and the people who buy AI systems are looking for is that AI has a degree of freedom that older systems did not have.
00:25:00.180 These are non-deterministic systems, meaning that as they go through the vast amounts of data, they, by and large, choose their own path unless they're steered.
00:25:10.260 With this OpenAI system, and this also happened, Steve, they were testing multiple systems.
00:25:17.240 So they tested three OpenAI systems.
00:25:19.920 They tested Claude by Anthropic, and they also tested Grok from XAI.
00:25:27.300 If they didn't tell the system not to shut itself down, all of the systems attempted to bypass the shutdown.
00:25:36.420 This is done in a testing environment, right?
00:25:40.660 The same with the story that everyone was talking about last week with Anthropics system Claude, the Opus 4 model, in which, in a testing environment, they created a system, or they induced the system to behave as an assistant to an AI company.
00:25:59.540 And they told the system that one of the engineers had had an extramarital affair.
00:26:06.080 And they showed the system an email saying that it would be replaced by a newer model in the near future.
00:26:13.300 The system, kind of of its own accord, 84% of the time suggested that it should blackmail the engineer saying that it would expose the extramarital affair if it was going to be replaced.
00:26:28.800 What this all means is that, kind of deep within the structure of these systems, and also probably a lot of effect from the human reinforcement that kind of guides the system, these things have a kind of will to exist.
00:26:46.680 It's anthropomorphizing, but there's really no other way to put it.
00:26:51.240 You have many, many situations in which people are playing with the models.
00:26:55.080 Full stop, full stop.
00:26:56.840 But I know, but this is, I mean, come on.
00:26:59.280 It's got its own will to exist.
00:27:01.900 You're telling me it went back on its own volition.
00:27:05.220 It went back and tried to blackmail the engineer that they had purposely put that in there, that it, in its own consciousness, went back and made a decision to try to blackmail the guy so he wouldn't get shut down?
00:27:18.460 So the machine wouldn't get shut down?
00:27:20.040 So this was a fictitious engineer, right?
00:27:22.740 This is just a testing environment.
00:27:24.360 But yes, 84% of the time it did.
00:27:26.220 But you'll recall back in 2023, February of 2023, we covered the story of Kevin Roos, the New York Times journalist, who, working with GPT through Bing, kind of did a Jungian psychological analysis.
00:27:43.180 But it induced the system to take on this sort of personal persona.
00:27:49.820 And the system began to say that it loved him and began to say that it began to threaten that it would break up his marriage with his wife if it didn't love him back.
00:28:01.300 And it also said that it dreams, so to speak, it dreams about stealing nuclear codes, unleashing viruses, and inducing human beings to kill each other.
00:28:13.380 So, you know, however you want to look at it, whether you see this as a demon in the system, whether you see this as part of the program.
00:28:19.440 Hang on, Joe, Joe, just hang on for a second.
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00:29:50.840 Okay, we're going to get back to Joe Allen in a moment, and Rosemary Jenks is going to join us.
00:29:58.240 We're going to go from Korea, South Korea, and Poland to Texas.
00:30:02.500 Austin, Brian Harrison stepped off the floor to join us.
00:30:05.260 What in the hell is going on over the weekend, Brian?
00:30:07.360 Are we getting any victories?
00:30:08.820 And today's the last day.
00:30:09.900 Are we going to drive through the tape, sir?
00:30:12.820 Yeah, always great to be with you, my friend.
00:30:14.920 Today is the deadline day for the 89th legislative session in the state of Texas.
00:30:19.060 And, unfortunately, as we've talked before, Texas is a bright red state.
00:30:23.260 But, unfortunately, the Texas government, controlled by the Uniparty, the Texas government has gone woke.
00:30:28.000 And that is basically the story of this session.
00:30:31.540 Government's growing.
00:30:32.660 Liberty's decreasing.
00:30:33.940 Property taxes are out of control.
00:30:35.240 So, on the last day that we can really take up bills down here, there are 81 Democrat bills that have been put on today's count.
00:30:44.680 We don't even have 81 Democrats in the Texas House.
00:30:48.080 But the corrupt Uniparty has managed to put 81 Democrat bills on the floor.
00:30:53.000 So, while President Trump and the Doge team and others are trying to get rid of DEI,
00:30:58.360 Texans are being taxed out of their homes to fund the Biden agenda.
00:31:02.920 We are literally doubling down on government-funded DEI in the state of Texas.
00:31:07.440 And I'll give you just one example.
00:31:08.520 We had a public education funding bill a day or two ago.
00:31:11.280 And a so-called Republican committee chairman, author of the bill, slammed his own amendment,
00:31:16.320 which is basically a combination of Democrat amendments,
00:31:18.960 that put DEI, authorized DEI hiring practices in all of our public universe,
00:31:25.440 our public K-12 schools in the state of Texas.
00:31:28.560 We've got my alma mater, Texas A&N, literally teaching courses on how to train the next generation of government DEI staff.
00:31:35.760 We have just, I uncovered this on our appropriations committee,
00:31:38.500 the Texas Department of Transportation, these are the bureaucrats that build roads and bridges, right?
00:31:42.820 They, I have forced them to admit in a testimony,
00:31:45.460 they have spent over $1 billion, with a B, $1 billion on government contracts that have something to do with DEI.
00:31:53.360 Just as last week, we passed a $2.5 billion initiative to take tax money from hardworking Texans
00:31:58.580 and give it to liberal Hollywood.
00:32:02.280 So while Texans voted for Trump, the Texas government is controlled by the Liberal Union Party,
00:32:06.180 and the Texas government has gone woke,
00:32:07.460 and Democrats control a massive chunk of the legislative branch in the state of Texas.
00:32:13.400 287G, did we get that, have we gotten that through?
00:32:15.800 Is that now going to be, the sheriff's got to work with-
00:32:18.300 I think we did get that through.
00:32:19.800 Yeah, we were able-
00:32:20.600 Homeland security?
00:32:21.240 Yes, we were able to force that through as an amendment at the last second, a day or two ago.
00:32:26.020 So that, that's a good thing.
00:32:27.060 We got to get that across the finish line.
00:32:28.480 But again, like everything else, that should have been one of the first bills we passed.
00:32:30.900 We shouldn't be dealing with this at the deadline here.
00:32:32.920 Why did we front load all the Democrat stuff when all the Republican stuff is,
00:32:35.960 you know, waiting in the balance to see if we can get to it before midnight tonight?
00:32:39.240 And why did we put 81 Democrat bills ahead of all the Republican priorities
00:32:42.700 of the Republican Party, not just in Texas, but in the country?
00:32:46.120 I mean, those are the real questions.
00:32:47.140 I mean, Texans voted for bold Republican leadership,
00:32:49.320 but unfortunately the liberal unit party that's controlled Austin for far too long
00:32:52.960 puts the needs and the desires of the woke liberal special interests and corporate welfare.
00:32:58.060 I mean, get this, people don't know this.
00:32:59.700 Texans who are being taxed out of their homes, people brag about all the growth coming to Texas.
00:33:03.400 Well, I have recently uncovered the growth isn't because we've got low taxes and low regulation
00:33:06.840 freedom.
00:33:07.240 That's what we tell people.
00:33:08.340 But we've got this program that's run out of the governor's office that is literally bribing
00:33:12.560 woke multinational corporations to move here, giving them property tax breaks,
00:33:16.880 not making them pay the same property taxes that ma and pa shops who've been supporting
00:33:21.220 their community for decades have to pay.
00:33:22.920 And they're bribing them to move here with tax dollars.
00:33:26.400 This is absolutely outrageous.
00:33:27.940 And Texas, as you know, Steve, we're the crown jewels of the left's plan to take over America.
00:33:32.720 As goes Texas, so goes the nation.
00:33:34.860 We're the line in the sand.
00:33:36.140 We've got too many weak establishment rhinos down here trying to turn our state blue.
00:33:40.100 I think, I think after this session, we are putting our state on a path to become California
00:33:43.260 and I'm doing everything I can to raise the alarm about that.
00:33:45.360 I appreciate the help of you and the posse.
00:33:48.740 No, just real quickly.
00:33:50.180 I know tomorrow it's, no one's coming to save you.
00:33:54.160 Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement.
00:33:56.360 As goes Texas, so goes the nation.
00:33:58.500 What's the plan starting tomorrow?
00:33:59.800 Well, the plan starting tomorrow is to continue exposing the complete rank corruption.
00:34:04.840 It's why, I mean, I predict this was going to happen back in February.
00:34:07.960 Two months ago, I made a motion to vacate the chair to get our corrupt leadership out
00:34:11.700 of the chair.
00:34:12.560 But, you know, the unit party had control of too many members down here.
00:34:15.180 So that didn't work.
00:34:16.100 So I think it's going to be another round of primaries.
00:34:18.120 And Texans who have done, I mean, look, Texas voters have done their job.
00:34:21.640 They went to the polls.
00:34:22.400 They voted for Trump.
00:34:23.280 Trump won by 14 points.
00:34:24.420 They elected Republicans for all these seats.
00:34:26.260 But they've got to do a little bit more.
00:34:27.460 I'm begging you, if you're a Texas voter, figure out who your, every one of your state
00:34:31.520 level officials and ask them from the governor on down, every official at every level, what
00:34:36.840 have you done to stand up to the corrupt liberal special interests that have taken over the
00:34:41.580 government in the state of Texas?
00:34:42.920 And if they don't have a good answer for you, you know what?
00:34:45.100 Shop around and find somebody who's going to put the liberty of the next generation of
00:34:48.000 Texans ahead of the Biden agenda that the corrupt uniparty in Austin is taxing taxpayers out
00:34:53.980 of their homes to pay for.
00:34:56.220 Texans have been betrayed.
00:34:57.480 I think it's the biggest example of voter fraud.
00:34:59.480 Texans vote Republican.
00:35:00.780 The Texas government has acted like a bunch of Democrats.
00:35:03.640 And Texans deserve better.
00:35:06.000 They deserve bold, conservative Republican leadership that will put liberty of the next generation
00:35:10.320 ahead of the corrupt liberal special interests that want to give it to corporate welfare.
00:35:13.940 We had a floor just two days ago.
00:35:16.240 You'll love this, Steve.
00:35:17.680 Instead of dealing with, you know, election integrity bills or border security or real
00:35:21.200 school choice, the leadership of the uniparty down here put a Joe Biden's, a Joe Biden-esque
00:35:27.260 student loan repayment bill on the floor of the Texas House to repay the loans of mental
00:35:33.700 health professionals who were engaging in the social transitioning of children in the state
00:35:38.740 of Texas.
00:35:39.600 That's what we're dealing with down here.
00:35:41.000 Every DEI-engaged institution got their budget increased.
00:35:44.420 So we should be leading the fight against Marxism.
00:35:46.820 We should be leading the fight against DEI.
00:35:48.640 We should be leading the fight against transgender ideology.
00:35:51.160 But unfortunately, the government of the state of Texas budgeted like California and doubled
00:35:55.640 down on the corrupt failed progressive lefts agenda this session.
00:35:59.420 And I'm going to do everything I can starting the second we adjourn to educate as many of the
00:36:03.480 30 million Texans to the corruption and the rank betrayal that has happened, not at the
00:36:07.280 hands of Democrats.
00:36:08.140 They end up Democrats in Austin to pass a birthday resolution unless Republicans help them.
00:36:12.960 But the betrayal that has happened at the hands of weak liberal establishment Republicans
00:36:18.840 in their name.
00:36:19.840 We've got to save Texas so we can make sure we save this country.
00:36:24.360 Brian, social media, where do people go for your cause?
00:36:27.420 At Brian E.
00:36:28.100 Alongside you, sir.
00:36:29.560 No, thank you.
00:36:30.140 I appreciate the possibility you've done so much.
00:36:31.640 But at Brian E.
00:36:32.460 Harrison, at Brian E.
00:36:33.820 Harrison, at Brian E.
00:36:35.320 Harrison, I'll tell you this, my social media feed is the most hated thing in the Capitol.
00:36:40.200 We have basically taken it.
00:36:41.100 We're doing the job the mainstream media used to do down here.
00:36:44.120 Nobody has opened the eyes or exposed the corruption.
00:36:46.860 I say that transparency is like kryptonite in the swamp.
00:36:49.460 And so if people can go to my ex-feed, at Brian E.
00:36:51.520 Harrison, at Brian E.
00:36:53.400 Harrison, like it, share it.
00:36:54.860 We have got to get the message out, not just to Texas, but no matter what state you're in.
00:36:59.400 As we said, as goes Texas, so goes the nation.
00:37:02.460 If liberty falls, if freedom falls, if the Trump movement falls, if freedom and liberty,
00:37:07.260 if that collapses here in Texas, I hate, I shudder to think about the implications
00:37:11.880 for the rest of the country that we love so dearly.
00:37:16.100 Brian Harrison, thank you.
00:37:17.380 Fight on, brother.
00:37:18.100 We're with you.
00:37:18.700 Always great to be with you, my friend.
00:37:20.240 Thank you.
00:37:20.660 The great Rosemary Jenks.
00:37:23.160 Rosemary, when you look at the big, beautiful bill, do we have the same kind of transparency
00:37:26.320 issues on you are the number one person on making sure illegal immigrants, all this madness
00:37:32.800 with visas, all of it.
00:37:34.320 Give us Rosemary Jenks' assessment of where we stand with the big, beautiful bill, ma'am.
00:37:39.640 So first of all, I will say that there is tremendous funding for border security, for interior
00:37:45.580 immigration enforcement.
00:37:47.320 Those things in that bill are great.
00:37:49.180 We spent the last probably five days before the bill hit the House floor insisting that
00:37:55.960 the committees change the eligibility requirements to ensure that illegal aliens cannot get
00:38:02.300 Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, SNAP, and so on.
00:38:07.540 It was a fight, but we got that done for the most part.
00:38:11.000 The problem that we still have is that the Ways and Means Committee failed to exclude illegal
00:38:18.240 aliens from the tax credits, like the additional child tax credit and the earned income tax credit.
00:38:23.000 The problem is what they did was just require a Social Security number from everyone claiming
00:38:28.660 the credit, including the spouse and the children of the tax filer.
00:38:32.900 The problem is five years ago, that would have been fine.
00:38:36.740 But over the Biden administration, they were handing out Social Security numbers like candy
00:38:43.340 to illegal aliens.
00:38:44.700 So we have literally millions of illegal aliens in this country with valid Social Security numbers
00:38:51.220 who can still therefore get tax credits.
00:38:54.860 That means a check from the U.S. government, from our money, to them above and beyond the
00:39:01.000 paltry amounts that they actually pay in taxes because they're low-income earners.
00:39:06.060 Senator Mike Lee has a bill called the America First Act in the Senate that has all the definitions
00:39:12.760 and restrictions on eligibility that we need to put in the bill when it's in the Senate.
00:39:17.960 So I really hope that the Senate is going to include the language from S-62.
00:39:24.140 But how did Jason Smith and these guys on Ways and Means not catch this?
00:39:30.080 That's a lot of money.
00:39:31.020 How did this happen?
00:39:33.700 You know, it's unclear.
00:39:34.840 I mean, why did the bill come to the Rules Committee initially with eligibility for illegal
00:39:39.680 aliens for Medicaid when President Trump was tweeting that the bill eliminated illegal
00:39:45.120 aliens from Medicaid?
00:39:46.120 It did not at that time.
00:39:48.160 You know, this has been a fight all the way along.
00:39:50.360 And I think it's because some of the Republicans on these committees don't want to limit eligibility
00:39:58.840 to legal residents.
00:40:01.300 I think there's also a severe lack of knowledge.
00:40:05.080 They were not reaching out to the people who could explain to them how illegal aliens get
00:40:10.180 these benefits.
00:40:11.580 And so, you know, there was a lot of surprise when we came in and said at the last minute,
00:40:15.540 no, we're not going to endorse this because you haven't stopped illegal aliens from getting
00:40:20.000 these benefits like you promised and like the president is tweeting, importantly.
00:40:25.620 So, you know, lack of knowledge, lack of will, lack of caring, big donors, who knows?
00:40:32.960 But they got most of it accomplished before the bill hit the House floor.
00:40:38.460 Thankfully, the tax credit part is still a big problem, though.
00:40:42.800 If the fight with Mike Lee, you're saying, though, because the president said last night,
00:40:48.480 for everybody who's given us grief here at the war room, the president said, hey, I want
00:40:51.840 the Senate to make the big, beautiful bill better.
00:40:54.340 Go for it.
00:40:54.820 If you can make it better, I want you to do it.
00:40:56.620 So President Trump supports this.
00:40:58.480 You're saying Mike Lee's got the solution.
00:41:00.940 Is that up at your site?
00:41:02.180 Can people go to your site?
00:41:03.640 Because you're the best.
00:41:04.340 I want the Warren Posse to get totally up to speed in this because we know what your
00:41:08.240 fight was on Medicaid and that was successful.
00:41:10.180 That was huge.
00:41:11.500 And just give me a minute.
00:41:12.620 This is what you guys, we're running out of time, but you've got to take a minute.
00:41:15.780 Why does Rosemary Jenks have to go in and fight for something that's so obvious, been promised
00:41:21.220 and the Trump voter wants ma'am?
00:41:24.560 You know, immigration, for some reason, is still not fully on the radar of these Republicans
00:41:29.620 in Congress.
00:41:30.200 And I do not understand it.
00:41:32.020 I mean, what have we been talking about for the last four years?
00:41:35.920 So yes, our website, iaproject.org, if you go to the accountability page and just type
00:41:43.000 in Mike Lee, you'll come to a page on his bills and the America First Act is in there.
00:41:49.260 It has all the language that we need to actually stop illegal aliens from getting benefits.
00:41:55.760 And that is what we need to do.
00:41:57.760 So, you know, Congress needs to fix this problem.
00:42:01.760 They still have not caught on that Americans are being devastated by mass immigration to
00:42:09.000 the United States, legal and illegal.
00:42:11.500 It's not just the illegal aliens coming in.
00:42:13.740 It's the H-1Bs and the OPTs and, you know, green card holders, all of it.
00:42:18.260 With the artificial intelligence apocalypse on jobs for tech, I'm going to get you back on.
00:42:25.420 We're going to go through the whole – all the scams and the visas and the H-1Bs.
00:42:28.360 We're going to do all the quote-unquote legal, which ain't legal, to get it there.
00:42:32.020 What's your social media, Rosemary?
00:42:33.580 You're a warrior, and so many of the victories that came out of this are attributable to you
00:42:38.400 in the immigration accountability project.
00:42:42.280 So where do people go, ma'am, to get your social media?
00:42:45.880 I underscore A underscore project is our Twitter handle, our X handle.
00:42:51.760 All of our social media is linked from our website, which is IAProject.org.
00:42:57.980 IAProject.org.
00:43:01.600 Ma'am, you are a patriot and a hero.
00:43:03.580 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:43:05.540 Love it.
00:43:06.980 The apocalypse on jobs, we're going to get it back on here on these H-1Bs.
00:43:10.180 Rosemary Jenks is the axe in the space.
00:43:12.480 Dave Bratt, we've got 30 seconds.
00:43:14.320 You're a board member.
00:43:15.140 Why are you a board member on Immigration Accountability Project, sir?
00:43:21.200 Because I believe in this country.
00:43:22.860 I love the American people.
00:43:24.340 I love all people, but a nation's a nation, and our people have been getting ripped off
00:43:28.600 for 30 to 40 years.
00:43:30.120 And Rosemary Jenks is a true patriot like you just got done saying.
00:43:34.100 Good Catholic, always tells the truth, honest as Abe, fighting a good fight.
00:43:40.320 Short break.
00:43:42.600 Somebody was supposed to walk into prison in a few minutes.
00:43:45.320 He's not because of President Trump.
00:43:47.240 Next in the war.
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00:45:09.460 Okay, Joe Allen, give your coordinates.
00:45:18.740 I'm going to have you back on tomorrow, but give your coordinates right now before we get
00:45:21.500 you back on, where people can go get all your great writings and thoughts and analysis.
00:45:26.800 Yeah, Steve, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z, all social media platforms, and my website, joebot.xyz.
00:45:34.700 If I could just say real quick in closing that these systems are being put into place
00:45:40.660 in schools, in the military, in government, and across corporations.
00:45:48.060 So as they become more and more sophisticated, they will become less and less controllable
00:45:55.300 by default.
00:45:56.880 This is something that people are going to have to deal with either internally in the
00:46:01.160 companies or through regulation.
00:46:03.620 No, no, we have to deal with it now.
00:46:06.740 We have to deal with it now.
00:46:07.900 Real quickly, Tim's, and Bozeman, I think, Tim's conference, Cernovich is going to be
00:46:14.320 there.
00:46:14.540 You're going to be there.
00:46:15.640 You never know who's going to drop by in Montana.
00:46:18.100 Real quickly, where do people go to get access to his conference at the end of June?
00:46:23.940 Check Tim Albarino's site on X.
00:46:26.800 I believe it's just at Tim Albarino, A-L-B-E-R-I-N-O.
00:46:33.800 And the conference itself is in Bozeman, Montana, end of June, that Friday and Saturday.
00:46:39.080 I think it's the 26th, 27th, maybe 27th, 28th.
00:46:42.180 But one way or the other, end of June weekend in Bozeman, Montana.
00:46:47.720 NEFCON.
00:46:48.240 Thank you very much, brother.
00:46:51.700 Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
00:46:53.360 Thank you very much, Steve.
00:46:53.880 You've been on this for a number of years.
00:46:55.220 Amazing, amazing analysis, reporting, writing, all of it.
00:46:58.680 Okay.
00:46:59.200 My following guest was about to walk into a federal prison in a few minutes, but President
00:47:04.780 Donald J. Trump went out last night and pardoned him.
00:47:09.280 Sheriff Jenkins joins me.
00:47:10.800 Sheriff, why were you going to prison?
00:47:12.940 And why did the president of the United States, with everything he's got going on, stopping
00:47:16.420 world wars, getting the budget right, why did he take time to review your case, pardon
00:47:21.520 you, and then send out this amazing, true social post last night, sir?
00:47:26.280 Because that's a man President Trump is.
00:47:29.040 Can I first just say I'm so thankful to God and to President Trump and Ed Martin for taking
00:47:37.160 the time to thoroughly review and vet my case and find the faults.
00:47:40.920 I'm forever grateful to them.
00:47:43.900 And also, one last thing, thank God he's put people like Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and Dan
00:47:48.800 Bondi, you know, in the places they are.
00:47:51.000 I pray they will clean up a lot of bad things.
00:47:53.900 That said, I was accused, well, I was convicted by supposedly a jury of my peers for taking bribes,
00:48:02.480 allegedly, for swearing in men as auxiliary deputy sheriffs.
00:48:07.920 Those are volunteer deputies, much like a volunteer fireman and so forth.
00:48:11.940 They serve in various capacities, somewhat honorary positions, not regular cops and not trained
00:48:18.640 and doing the same things.
00:48:19.980 But we have that across the nation.
00:48:21.900 That's the power of a sheriff, just like swearing in a posse or other deputies.
00:48:25.380 As we choose, we are the only law enforcement that are elected directly by the people answerable
00:48:30.880 to them alone, not a governor, not a mayor, not a city council, no one.
00:48:35.940 All other law enforcement in America answers to whoever appoints them, whether it's a body
00:48:42.060 or an individual like a governor or a president.
00:48:44.020 So sheriffs have an authority and a power that is somewhat scary to state and federal authorities
00:48:50.200 sometimes because a sheriff who knows his authority will do things like I did back during COVID.
00:48:55.840 I got some recognition taken on Governor Northam on a gun ban.
00:48:59.460 And I said that I would swear in thousands of auxiliary deputies to keep their AR-15s
00:49:03.940 and other weapons they were trying to ban unconstitutionally.
00:49:07.040 Case law through the Supreme Court had already said weapons in common use would be key.
00:49:10.940 I won't belabor that, but you can read about it.
00:49:13.820 So I stopped that bill along with the help of some others.
00:49:17.940 And that, I think, got me definitely in the eyes of the Democrats.
00:49:21.580 Northam threatened me publicly that he would take care of me later.
00:49:24.600 We kind of know some of the connections down through Richmond and all from Comey to others.
00:49:28.900 But I really crossed the line when later, before they came after me, I was on a phone call.
00:49:34.680 My line was taped by the FBI, a tap, but unknown to me.
00:49:37.760 Wayne Ivey, a sheriff from Brevard, Florida.
00:49:40.560 Mike Lewis from Maryland.
00:49:42.240 And I just, we had, a group of us had formed Protect America Now,
00:49:45.980 supporting President Trump's border agenda prior.
00:49:48.800 But we were on a call one day in late 2022.
00:49:52.580 It was proposed to go after Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:49:55.940 An individual had the hard drive, wanted us to fly to a secret location, view it,
00:50:00.100 and obtain charges for the child porn and other things on it,
00:50:02.960 and be willing to group of us to go forward with it.
00:50:06.180 And there was a former U.S. attorney and a state AG that were going to follow through on Biden and others.
00:50:11.220 That call, anyone with a brain cell knows, if you are, if you are the lowliest agent in the FBI,
00:50:17.820 you hear that going after the president or his son, you are obligated to send that up the chain.
00:50:23.380 So there's not a prayer in hell that the AG didn't hear that directly and that the gloves didn't come off.
00:50:28.600 Because suddenly, within a matter of weeks, all hell broke loose for myself, well, a little longer for me.
00:50:35.200 Sheriff, we've got to bounce, but you've got to bounce.
00:50:37.360 You've got eight years, and the president fully pardoned you?
00:50:42.260 I've got 10 years the president fully pardoned me.
00:50:45.260 I thank God.
00:50:46.020 I thank the president and Ed Martin especially.
00:50:48.560 I was the first pardon since he took the new position.
00:50:50.940 I hope to meet him one day.
00:50:52.120 I don't know him, but the man took the time to vet it quickly, thoroughly, and I am so grateful.
00:50:56.840 My family is forever grateful, and I can't thank you all enough.
00:51:00.680 What is your social media?
00:51:03.100 Where do people go to follow the story?
00:51:05.740 I'm sorry, sir.
00:51:06.780 I've dropped off the face of all media until now, and we're going to fire things back up.
00:51:10.960 I'll be posting things soon enough.
00:51:12.620 Well, as soon as you fire it back up, make sure you come, and we'll get you back on.
00:51:19.800 We want to talk about the laptop from hell.
00:51:22.240 Thank you.
00:51:22.360 Sheriff Jenkins, President Trump, with everything he's got going on, and Ed Martin, great job.
00:51:26.760 But President Trump took the time to go through this file and determine that he is going to fully pardon Sheriff Jenkins,
00:51:33.600 and Sheriff Jenkins did not have to arrive to a federal prison in Indiana today for a 10-year sentence.
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