Bannon's War Room - Episode 4518： The Sovereign Versus The Globalist; Defending Our Elections

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.320 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.920 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.700 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do

00:00:24.060 people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these

00:00:31.780 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to

00:00:39.340 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:47.220 it's wednesday 28 may in the year of our lord 2025 uh let's go we now uh in hungary he's left poland

00:00:58.480 is the great jack basobiec uh jack you're joining this conversation we've got uh we've got jim

00:01:04.120 records we've got joe allen we're all about artificial intelligence the battlefield what's

00:01:08.660 happening and sucking us in inexorably into this war between russia and ukraine or russia and some

00:01:14.800 of the european powers we also have the great kurt mills from american conservative we're going to

00:01:19.940 get his perspective on all of it and particularly the persian part of this uh so you you gave a speech

00:01:27.100 and for people in the war room it was uh classic poso but there must be a lot of people not listening

00:01:34.020 to war room because your speech in poland brother is going mega viral what did you say and why are

00:01:41.260 people that are maybe not familiar with jack basobiec all of a sudden saying wow what listen

00:01:47.260 what this guy's saying sir well steve thanks so much for having me on and the speech you know it did

00:01:54.720 the war room audience will come as no surprise that i gave in poland yesterday uh it was really just a

00:02:01.160 speech about borders language culture and faith and in poland it just like all over here in eastern

00:02:10.040 europe hungary as well this is what the fight's all about but it's actually the same fight that we have

00:02:15.900 in the united states and people will say well how can you go to poland how can you go to these other

00:02:19.680 places and i say well wait a minute because we're all facing the same thing the creeping godless atheism

00:02:26.200 that is globalism and it's about all nations and all people having the right to self-determination

00:02:33.000 as opposed to the transnational cult of davos the transnational cult that's run out of brussels

00:02:39.860 the late uh keir starmer or excuse me the late uh klaus uh klaus schwab keir starmer is still with

00:02:46.020 us unfortunately uh for a little bit longer though he's trying to he's trying to sound a few different

00:02:51.080 notes the other way but look steve it you know i think this one was different because uh for a lot of

00:02:56.140 people they could tell that i was speaking very personally it was an emotional speech for me because

00:03:00.280 uh where we were where they held cpac poland was only about 40 minutes away from where the posobic 0.51

00:03:07.820 village is in poland um right near legeis which is very very close by the way to the ukrainian

00:03:16.020 border and so for me returning to the land of my ancestors the land of my forefathers the land of my

00:03:24.040 heritage for the first time to give a speech and talk about these very same things was was

00:03:30.020 extremely personal extremely important so 80 years after this cataclysmic of war uh that uh that was

00:03:40.060 dead center in the middle of the most bloody century in mankind's history the new dark age the from 19 0.94

00:03:45.620 august 1914 until really uh november of 1989 with the fall of the berlin wall and tiananman square and

00:03:52.640 all that um right now you've got another war that's actually bloodier than the beginning of the of the

00:03:59.840 second world war and it's getting nastier part of that's driven by and it seems like with all of

00:04:05.340 your sitting there and going hey we had the same fight and you know we got to realize this godless

00:04:10.460 atheism inside the american government inside the american power structure of wall street the

00:04:16.220 corporations the oligarchs they all want it and we're being inexorably pulled in with the greatest

00:04:22.540 single leader we've had uh since uh since i think abraham lincoln and i'm including fdr and ronald reagan

00:04:30.060 in that uh you have a man that's adamantly opposed to getting sucked into here he is he is adamant about

00:04:37.080 he's going to bring peace and attempting to bring peace over the last 72 hours because of drones and

00:04:43.540 artificial intelligence and bad intentions we're getting sucked in more and more to this war and

00:04:48.580 poland will will be sucked into the vortex of this more than any nation on earth sir

00:04:54.340 well sir uh steve poland has already been uh involved in this and sucked in in so many ways

00:05:02.900 poland taking millions and millions of ukrainian refugees by the way poland not taking in the

00:05:08.140 economic refugees from the middle east that have been trying to come in but instead taking the actual 1.00

00:05:14.100 war refugees that are fleeing this conflict from ukraine that have come in and groups like caritas

00:05:20.860 and others that i've been supporting along the way have done a great job that's a catholic group that's

00:05:25.640 in there in poland that focuses just on war refugees has done incredible work to help them steve poland

00:05:32.240 also facing huge economic inflation issues similar to what we heard in 2024 because of their involvement

00:05:38.800 in the war and that town jezhov where we were that's the key military uh transportation hub for

00:05:44.340 all the nato equipment comes down into southern poland in that city of jezhov they ride it on the

00:05:50.360 train right past my family's village and then it goes into lviv and then from there on down to the

00:05:55.880 front line or the munitions go out and are dispersed as well by the way as we're now hearing these

00:06:01.160 tourist missiles these long-range missiles they're all coming through with this entry point as well

00:06:05.660 and of course you've got merz the german chancellor saying well we are giving uh we're giving zelinski

00:06:12.120 this authority to strike deeper and deeper into russia of course moscow saw drone strikes last night

00:06:17.340 and so the question is you hear merz trying to trap trump on this he said we got sign off from the

00:06:22.440 united states of america i don't remember hearing president trump say anything about that i i follow

00:06:26.580 his true social i i've heard him i go to the white house all the time i've never heard anything about

00:06:31.640 president trump saying we authorize this but chancellor merz seems to think that it is but

00:06:36.800 steve what what's really going on with this escalation is i think from both sides the russians

00:06:42.660 and the ukrainians they've been offered this ceasefire deal by president trump they did do the prisoner

00:06:48.160 swap over the weekend but it sounds like it is a resounding thanks but no thanks in terms of the

00:06:54.160 ceasefire these guys want to slug this thing out they were they were attacked ukraine attacked

00:07:00.960 moscow with i think with 300 drones last night in a coordinated uh attack uh records let me get you

00:07:07.580 back in here because i'm with i'm with uh i'm with uh uh poso and i don't think i'm too naive but

00:07:14.400 you're saying we are naive in the fact that mertz wouldn't be allowed to say that and more particularly

00:07:19.480 they wouldn't be able to hit inside these targets unless the united states has somehow given them

00:07:23.840 behind the scenes the okay and just don't want to have our hands dirty is that what you're saying

00:07:27.320 that somebody either president trump or somebody's administration has given the wink and the nod

00:07:31.820 to mertz to basically say uk france the united states and germany all authorize this sir

00:07:37.980 that's exactly right and uh in addition to the green light and whether it was a wink and a nod or

00:07:43.280 you know something secret uh it doesn't matter they got the green light but beyond that

00:07:47.440 the germans couldn't do it it knows that ukrainians and the germans couldn't do it without u.s

00:07:52.920 intelligence targeting surveillance analytics etc so the u.s is supporting whether it's implicit or

00:07:58.660 explicit explicit you know leave that to the historians but the u.s has green lighted this

00:08:02.260 there's no question about it by the way um people don't understand the armchair generals don't understand

00:08:09.340 how restrained russia has been through this entire special military operation now yeah okay uh maybe a

00:08:15.980 million ukrainians dead it's it's a war and it's a it's a bloody war uh it's highly lethal war but

00:08:21.720 russia could level kiev in 24 hours uh so and and you know get rid of this land basically level the 0.87

00:08:28.900 entire city why haven't they well because they they would like to win on their terms uh and the russian

00:08:34.720 way of war is very slow but if you keep escalating to russia russia will escalate back russia has actually

00:08:40.600 been very restrained and that will start to go away we will move closer to world war three uh the

00:08:45.740 kind of scenarios we've been talking about uh as we escalate but we're escalating through ai and drones

00:08:49.940 you're absolutely right about that but this is so dangerous and the sooner we get out and stop

00:08:55.460 facilitating it the better for the world but you're saying and president trump has said hey we're going

00:09:02.840 to wash our hands of it but uh liberal media or mainstream media will say you know bannon's got

00:09:11.120 uh kurt mills on he's got jim rickards on these guys are apologists for the russians uh you know

00:09:17.260 mills and the american conservative never seen an enemy the united states has there so what what is your

00:09:22.260 counter to hey rickards is lost the plot here and he's just a mouthpiece and stooge for uh a dictator

00:09:30.760 like putin uh who uh who has just ground this country into nothing and he's basically telling

00:09:35.980 president trump just agree to whatever putin wants and let's walk away and get out of there sir

00:09:41.000 yeah well i'm steve i'm one of a handful of people who actually follow the plot very closely so that's

00:09:46.100 the first answer but you know when you have a debate like that why don't we use facts um so linds what

00:09:50.800 does lindsey graham want what is his proposed senate legislation extreme sanctions on russia excuse me

00:09:55.800 this would be the 17th round of sanctions since february 2022 if 16 rounds of sanctions have failed

00:10:03.420 why on earth do you think the 17th round is going to work uh what he's doing is what's called a

00:10:08.260 secondary boycott which is okay we already banned russian imports of certain things exports of

00:10:12.460 certain things etc that's all it has all failed by the way leave aside the fact it's all failed

00:10:17.280 but now they want to say well okay let's do a secondary boycott what is that so if you're a chinese bank

00:10:22.200 and you facilitate a russian transaction we're going to punish the chinese bank in a lot of 0.54

00:10:27.300 different ways you know shut down your branches in the u.s uh limit access to dollar payment systems

00:10:31.980 and so there are there are ways to do it first of all nobody cares one of the reasons the sanctions

00:10:36.060 have failed not the only one but nobody has joined in brazil china india um turkey uh malay these are

00:10:43.260 some of the largest economies in the world india is now passed uh uh you know germany and japan uh

00:10:48.680 or sorry japan at least is uh fourth largest economy in the world they're not in they haven't

00:10:53.240 joined the sanctions so sanctions don't work if you don't have a partnership number one everyone

00:10:57.600 has workarounds uh you can call them ghost vessels call them whatever you want you reflag the vessel

00:11:02.440 um you know uh offload the oil in mid-ocean uh you know etc uh that these they're easy work

00:11:09.880 mark rich figured this out in the 1980s in the 1990s remember we had sanctions on iraq they didn't work

00:11:14.980 either that's good mark rich knew how to get around it and that and we still do uh the insurance

00:11:20.020 ban all it did was diminish lloyd's uh global market share the insurance moved the insurance

00:11:24.720 market moved to shanghai so um they failed they're going to keep failing um it's just but but so what's

00:11:31.140 the purpose well the purpose is exactly what you say get the u.s involved somehow you know drag this

00:11:36.400 out keep the weapons going keep the money going somehow get u.s boots on the ground and now you're

00:11:40.560 now it's vietnam uh and uh and it'll be trump's war it's one of the great we'll we'll have we'll

00:11:47.620 have mark mitchell on here in a while hopefully and but the polling on lindsey graham's 37 among

00:11:53.380 republicans in maga in in carolina and this is the number one thing they bring up that this guy's a

00:11:58.960 warmonger and this is from veterans and you know patriotic kind of hawk uh americans who don't want

00:12:06.740 i see we see another 20 or 30 year war here that can end in any way poso in in poland uh with this

00:12:12.940 election coming up the sovereignty the sovereignty group versus the globalist group are they though

00:12:19.500 united on where do they come out on this war in ukraine and particularly american involvement

00:12:25.000 look steve when it comes down to it you know poland for a lot of reasons there's a much

00:12:31.640 different strategic calculus for them vis-a-vis the russians than it is for the americans for them

00:12:38.620 russia is not some abstract force on the other side of the world it is literally next door where this

00:12:45.220 war is being waged in ukraine after the russian invasion and so for them it support for nato and

00:12:51.680 having that strong nato alliance is key that's why you hear these guys coming out and saying oh we

00:12:58.180 we want to work with trump we want to work with trump but steve don't forget that the the husband

00:13:02.600 of the current polish defense minister in the liberal side the globalist side is married to none

00:13:08.380 other than ann applebaum the queen prince of the globalists herself over at the atlantic so they're

00:13:15.080 deeply infiltrated at the highest level victoria victoria newland sorority sister real quickly uh

00:13:21.940 you're in hungary what is orban orban is orban has looked he's been ostracized because he's been

00:13:28.120 rational about this what is victor give me a minute on victor orban

00:13:31.420 look victor orban's position has been simple it's been he said look whatever you want russia is always

00:13:39.320 going to be at the other end of this continent from us so we'd rather work with them than pick 1.00

00:13:45.040 another fight with them because we've seen how that turns out jack can you stick around through 0.99

00:13:51.980 the break i know you're in hungary and you're very busy with media hits and and talking to officials

00:13:56.680 can you okay fire jack pasopi's gonna stick with us jim rickard's gonna stick with us joe allen's

00:14:01.080 gonna stick with us kurt mills is gonna join us ben harnwell we're loaded on a wednesday folks i'm

00:14:08.840 telling you this artificial intelligence we got to get our arms around it asap you cannot put it off

00:14:13.540 any longer cannot do it but it is also inexorably drawing us into this conflict we got to make a stand

00:14:21.800 out president trump needs our support more than ever because the he sent a hundred globalists home 0.76

00:14:28.480 from the national security council back to their uh original points of departure where the pentagon

00:14:34.080 ca etc but the globalists uh drive in the american government is unbelievable they're fighting

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00:16:29.900 okay we've got a we've got a team of all-stars here it's pretty amazing what we were able to pull

00:16:37.560 together on a wednesday without artificial intelligence i might add uh but we got mark

00:16:42.280 mitchell so mark i want to set the stage for us this discussion you guys at rasmussen are the best

00:16:48.500 at polling maga and polling around president trump you've got some quite frankly pretty amazing

00:16:54.980 numbers out particularly things i track like right track wrong track what the feeling of the country is

00:17:00.320 walk me through the reality of kind of these great numbers for president trump

00:17:05.640 yeah the way i look at it is we pull daily presidential approval rating and maybe that's

00:17:12.160 a report card for the presidency the administration but in my opinion right direction wrong track is more

00:17:18.220 of a report card for basically the democracy it's an important number and something that a pollster

00:17:23.600 should be laser focused on because it means if the number goes up that americans are actually

00:17:28.540 getting what they voted for and surprise over the last two decades of polling for rasmussen's history

00:17:34.440 voters have not been getting what they've been voting for and the number has been horrifyingly low

00:17:39.640 for almost all of obama's term right direction was essentially 30 percent joe biden was kicking

00:17:44.700 around in the high 20s and high 30s all of a sudden trump 2.0 comes in and we're setting records

00:17:50.200 right and left and i saw something yesterday that i never thought i'd see in my polling career

00:17:55.140 is a 50 percent right direction print which means uh in layman speak that a majority of u.s likely voters

00:18:03.700 for the very first time in rasmussen polling history think the country is headed in the right direction

00:18:08.920 only 45 percent wrong track net plus five we've had quite a few prints now with a positive net right

00:18:17.240 direction number and 100 of them have been in trump 47 it's really unprecedented now when i took when i

00:18:25.960 took over the campaign in in 16 this was the number that pat cadena already been pulling on since

00:18:30.380 really the reality of the iraq and afghanistan war since that whole debacle two-thirds of the nation

00:18:35.840 thought we were regardless who the guy this is why obama's hope and change turned out to be nothing

00:18:42.720 people just saw through it two-thirds one-third is is the thing a three-handle something at 33 to 35

00:18:49.220 percent to 37 percent that's the american that's the number of americans traditionally think we're on

00:18:53.900 the right track that's why this is historic you guys have been doing this for how many years sir

00:18:58.920 on right track wrong track how long going back to 2006 so this definitely includes the first

00:19:05.820 term of barack obama and i'm sorry barack obama the trump's numbers just blow you out of the water

00:19:12.240 and trump approval numbers are now setting records compared to obama as well in a couple of respects

00:19:18.600 and so basically again this is just higher than we've ever seen although it was elevated voters were

00:19:24.860 also happy in the direction the country was going in trump's first term he averaged about a 40 35 to 40

00:19:32.520 over his term but covet was in there and it made it kind of weird the previous record high was january

00:19:39.140 of 2017 and the previous high before that was february of 2020 when it was soaring again for economic not

00:19:47.440 political reasons and we all know what happened next and so here we are basically round tripping

00:19:54.060 right direction from covid hot pre-covid highs and it's because voters like how trump came in and

00:20:00.680 we've talked before about how all of his policy agenda items are more popular even than he is but

00:20:06.760 i'll tell you what like doge was super popular people understanding the level of waste fraud and abuse

00:20:12.420 this election in the fall was a referendum on business as usual in washington dc now i think it's

00:20:20.840 summertime i think people are chilling out now i think we got through a period of economic unease

00:20:25.720 i don't know what the geopolitical situation is going to do but what i do think is that if republicans

00:20:32.400 don't get it together people are going to start paying attention in ways that they have not before

00:20:37.640 as we approach the midterms and i can tell you that there is a lot of potential for this to get

00:20:43.200 screwed up and it would probably come from republicans right now we asked a question like we asked people

00:20:48.700 how they rate the job that congress is doing only 16 of republicans say excellent that's a low number

00:20:54.180 can't get to a majority with excellent plus good and then we asked you agree or disagree

00:20:59.440 congress is not delivering on the mandate that they have been given and this is from just last week

00:21:06.660 60 of republicans at least somewhat agreed with that statement so that's pretty profound and again

00:21:14.280 a lot's been happening people are generally happy with the stuff they're seeing out of the trump

00:21:18.620 administration but as far as like you and i both know a lot of it's been been promises and executive

00:21:25.220 orders and congress is in my opinion outward view not breaking a sweat here

00:21:30.820 i know you got to bounce but i just want to go back i know what this audience voted for and what i voted

00:21:37.700 for uh and some of my panelists voted for and i'm always putting up hey this is what i voted for

00:21:42.860 going after harvard what is it that the american people more than the maga right what are the

00:21:49.540 american people seeing that now have over 50 percent of us saying that 50 percent of our countrymen

00:21:55.220 saying that it's um it's uh we're on the right track i think there's a lot of positive headlines i

00:22:02.560 think that there's things about accountability coming out there's the executive orders um there's all

00:22:08.600 these major business deals it's hard to point your finger at any one thing but trump came out of the

00:22:13.440 gates really strong doge was very popular doge was actually more popular than trump was back in january

00:22:19.520 and february when it was in the headlines and we had a number of 70 percent of people who were

00:22:24.440 uh very or somewhat angry at the level of waste fraud and abuse coming after uh coming out of the

00:22:31.260 government and we also had almost 70 percent of people who supported doge style audits of major

00:22:36.540 government programs like social security now we're talking about it's like great that there

00:22:42.140 were the tax cut promises but again it all just looks like behind closed doors businesses usual

00:22:48.340 washington dc back scratching going on when are they going to up the energy level listen from an

00:22:54.180 outsider perspective i have to assume that if the democrats get back in control they're going to take a

00:23:00.000 hatchet to things like the supreme court or maybe the 60 vote limit in the in the senate why is that

00:23:06.720 not on the table right now why are we not having the senate uh forcing the senate to filibuster 0.93

00:23:13.620 legislation for things like election integrity that should be one page easy wins because 90 percent of

00:23:20.520 the country supports it why are we not doing that make them talk around the clock to defend

00:23:25.020 why we're not going to fix our elections people are talking about epstein on on twitter and we asked

00:23:31.700 how important is it that they release epstein documents 35 percent say uh very important i think

00:23:37.180 it was like 67 percent say at least somewhat support important but we asked how important is it for the

00:23:42.860 trump administration to release proof of election fraud 47 percent very important and it's in the 70s at

00:23:50.080 least somewhat so that issue in my opinion isn't really even being talked about and it was as we've

00:23:55.740 talked about many times a key issue for 2024 and so institutional trust i want to hammer that is the

00:24:02.140 problem over and over again then if we slip back into just dcbs it's gonna crumble and and already we

00:24:09.600 had our first generic ballot of the cycle last week democrat plus one democrats have not been up in a

00:24:15.600 generic ballot for rasmussen in like two or three years now and so for the democrats to take a lead

00:24:21.180 for republicans to slide i can only assume that it's a reaction to what people are seeing going on

00:24:27.720 right now people voted trump in they had to vote republicans in like by proxy but i think that there's

00:24:35.020 a huge opportunity for republicans to lose this support and the party is still the party we all know it

00:24:40.860 donald trump is really good he's got a grassroots army that helps donald trump get elected haven't yet

00:24:46.640 seen it get your bog standard republican elected uh where do people go for all this amazing insight

00:24:55.240 and reportage and analysis sir uh i love twitter i'm on there all day at honest pollster the handle

00:25:04.380 was available believe it or not and rasmussen underscore poll and we stream a few times a week usually late at

00:25:10.080 night hit us up on youtube rumble or getter at rasmussen underscore poll hope to see everybody

00:25:15.880 there uh thank you we want to have you back when you get another bite at these numbers incredible

00:25:21.820 over 50 think the country's going in the right direction first time in two decades uh poso i know

00:25:29.000 you got a bounce i got kurt mills on deck i know you got a bounce uh your thoughts your thoughts about

00:25:34.020 this polling your thoughts about the lindsey graham only at 37 percent and us being inexorably drawn

00:25:40.000 in to the kinetic part of the third world war in ukraine which for years poso from the day the

00:25:46.220 war started you were our guest uh you were a contributor here why is this happening we've got

00:25:52.500 a couple of minutes sir well steve when it comes down to it the polls are going the way they are

00:25:59.000 because president trump has kept his promises he made several promises many big ones to the american

00:26:05.060 people throughout his campaign and that's exactly what he's done he's delivering on no tax on tips

00:26:10.200 he's delivering on the tax relief for the working class and the middle class he's delivering on the

00:26:15.820 inflation relief for families and of course he's fighting hard on the deportation front i was with

00:26:21.600 secretary christy noem yesterday got a chance to sit with her talk about work that's being done to

00:26:26.360 increase the deportation numbers and of course president trump's other third big promise of was

00:26:32.820 the keeping us out of wars specifically winding down the u.s involvement in the ukraine russia war

00:26:40.640 and seeking peace there that's why you're seeing and even the russians now are offering off-ramps

00:26:45.540 saying look look we would much prefer the peace deal but what the russians want it i think it's very

00:26:50.360 simple they don't want just a ceasefire now and the frozen conflict that was one of the first pieces

00:26:56.180 that was offered what they want is the big deal they want a grand deal between the u.s and russia and i

00:27:04.340 i think you hear trump saying that as well through some of these communiques that he's made talking

00:27:09.600 about bringing them into the g8 again turning the trade back on again but then putin will turn around

00:27:14.560 and go back to his oligarchs and say hey we don't think these sanctions are going away anytime soon

00:27:19.020 so the key here is making sure that we stay off the escalatory on-ramp to the kinetic part of the

00:27:26.980 third world war and so when i hear the neocons and you're going to hear this they're going to push for

00:27:32.120 another spending bill we've got to have maga and america first stand strong for no more funding of

00:27:38.560 the ukraine war um jack pasovic thank you very much where do people go to get all your content you're

00:27:47.020 now in hungary at cpac hungary mo bannon's over there also a great crew is there we're going to be

00:27:52.840 live streaming it uh and we're also or i should say we're going to be streaming it because in the

00:27:57.340 middle of the night we're going to be streaming all of it uh where do people go to get all your content

00:28:01.020 sir uh go up on x it's at jack pasovic if case you miss any of that we're at human events daily we'll be

00:28:09.020 posting everything there in full all the speeches all the panels all the info that we're getting and

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00:29:47.660 so so kurt mills uh you're one of the smartest guys out there you just heard uh mark mitchell

00:29:57.080 another brilliant guy on the polling president trump now the people think the country's on the

00:30:01.160 right track they're supporting president trump more than ever we know why we voted for him and

00:30:06.100 we can't get enough we love it obviously there's certain things we disagree with and disagree with

00:30:10.280 adamantly but hey directionally president trump's delivery and the american people are seeing this

00:30:15.000 in particular this new coalition we're pulling together are you concerned that uh in one of the

00:30:21.860 reasons he's a he's a man of peace he's a strong man people do not cross him these uh dictators

00:30:27.780 throughout the world are crossing he's a man of peace but dude you look at the last 72 hours in

00:30:33.040 ukraine and russia we're being sucked into this and we're being sucked into this because of american

00:30:37.940 weapon systems these drones this artificial intelligent target acquisition and fire control solutions

00:30:43.620 uh what is going on here and what is the perspective of kurt mills and american conservatives sir

00:30:48.580 well to link to the previous segment i'll say the following um you know to the extent that we can rely

00:30:55.320 on public opinion polls and i think they have become far more rickety over the years as you're aware

00:30:59.480 but to the extent that we view them as a good snapshot of what is going on since trump has done his

00:31:05.420 middle east uh tour since trump has sidelined nsa mike waltz and since trump has made clear

00:31:11.820 uh that he wants to make good on his promise of ending the endless wars uh you have seen a clear

00:31:17.760 spike in the polls uh for the president and i think that's you know really notable i mean uh trump has

00:31:23.940 basically returned to the mid-january position where he has the democrats on the back heel now as to the

00:31:30.280 question of russia uh obviously the administration is extremely frustrated uh obviously the uh russians

00:31:36.460 are playing hardball i mean the russians demands in and of themselves are fairly extraordinary uh you

00:31:41.620 know i know uh you know our magazine is often uh typecast as uh you know non-interventionist to a fault

00:31:47.460 but the russian demands for uh territory that they have not actually conquered um is a novel uh approach

00:31:55.280 from moscow and one that the obviously the administration uh should rebut and i think they

00:31:59.840 are um but i think right now it's not worth panicking uh you know don't be a panicking as the president

00:32:07.280 said that that we are necessarily spiraling uh into something that trump can't negotiate us out of

00:32:13.260 um i do think what is notable and i do think what is concerning is that uh putin's uh uh lieutenant

00:32:20.560 dimentary medvedev the former russian president again yesterday or maybe the day before floated

00:32:26.740 uh russia's renewed nuclear doctrine i mean it's very very clear that the intelligentsia in moscow

00:32:34.180 is one aggrieved and two pretty nuclear curious i mean i mean the intelligence assessments during the

00:32:40.800 biden administration where the russians got close to a 50 chance of using a tactical nuke um this is not

00:32:47.360 to be trifled with and i think that's the reason why why negotiations are so key not only in russia

00:32:53.320 but also in the middle east do you uh is poso right is is what putin's looking at which we've

00:33:02.280 supported but i don't see it happening right now because of so much of what's happening in ukraine

00:33:07.060 and and and with persia but do you think that they're still interested in overall rapprochement or

00:33:12.800 since that he was playing footsie like a teenager was she over the 80th anniversary of victory in

00:33:19.380 europe day in moscow the parades and the 35 agreements they signed have you seen him backing

00:33:24.420 off there do you still agree with with uh with poso that this rapprochement this overall uh some sort

00:33:31.140 of strategic realignment we may make is still on the table and even active um i think rapprochement

00:33:38.720 with russia is still on the table i think what is going on is effectively i mean there are two main

00:33:43.900 explanations in my view for why the russians have i've started playing hardball number one uh the

00:33:49.360 russians may behind the scenes want to effectively vimarize uh ukraine which is like even if zelinski

00:33:55.200 signs a piece of paper which is dubious or even if the u.s signs a piece of paper and zelinski's not

00:33:59.340 in the room uh the question of uh ukrainian military projection into russia is a live one uh they have

00:34:06.580 routine drone strikes on moscow they are capable of assassinating uh upper crust members of the 0.72

00:34:12.000 russian military and uh if you have the view that i do which i know is not necessarily the popular view

00:34:17.240 that the ukrainians uh were behind north stream uh or at least the evidence so far is that they were

00:34:23.160 and that they potentially acted alone there is severe cause for anxiety in russia that even if they

00:34:29.340 sign a deal the elements of the of the ukrainian government may try to keep the war going especially

00:34:34.600 since zelinski himself fears his own hardliners i think explanation two is that putin himself

00:34:40.940 is wary of demobilization so quickly uh the war itself would mean ending today would mean that you

00:34:47.400 know hundreds of thousands of troops would go home potentially without jobs potentially without pay

00:34:52.380 and of course that's as you know that's unstable for for any leader uh you know so quickly and so

00:34:59.340 uh demobilization uh collapsed germany as as you're aware and uh in in 1918 and i don't think

00:35:05.920 the russian situation is nearly that dire in fact the russians have the upper hand the germans did not 0.99

00:35:10.320 uh but still it could explain why the russians want to drag this out and then finally the russians

00:35:15.320 themselves are a very you know this is not the soviet union uh and i think that's a specious argument to

00:35:21.900 make the to make that claim but the russians themselves do have a lot of the soviet architecture

00:35:26.740 which means it's a very it's a very bureaucratic society uh things go slowly uh you know oftentimes

00:35:33.900 and there's a million uh different you know uh check marks to make on the list before getting any

00:35:38.940 deal so yeah uh the early deal uh is off the table the deal by the uh uh you know victory parade in early

00:35:46.260 may as some people hoped off the table um and we could be in for a long summer uh but no need to

00:35:52.060 panic yet uh i think i we've got a hard-nosed diplomatic approach for the administration

00:35:57.020 and they're playing it right um christy noem was in and supposedly was there to to talk about the uh

00:36:05.780 two young people who were assassinated in washington dc uh but she had time to to actually

00:36:11.240 meet with netanyahu and i think inform him that president trump's not just preferred path but the

00:36:16.940 he's going down to some sort of diplomatic or economic deal that uh that uh stops the potential

00:36:22.680 for a threat of a nuclear weapon with the persians what's your assessment of this but netanyahu

00:36:27.920 one of the reasons waltz is gone is behind you know behind the scenes meetings uh with some of

00:36:34.680 the israeli staff uh do you think this is playing out as you uh as you envision well i'm not sure

00:36:42.820 anybody had christy noem all due respect to the secretary as trump's bad cop on their uh on their

00:36:48.660 uh play sheet but that appears to be what happened uh i mean huckabee uh embraced her when she came

00:36:54.220 and then per all reportings and look uh whatever you think of israel the israeli press is quite good

00:36:59.540 and uh you know the israeli press has basically reported that she delivered a tough message which is

00:37:05.520 back off the president wants to negotiate with iran we're very committed to having a ceasefire in gaza

00:37:10.680 uh and again as reported again in the times this morning uh you know the white house is pushing

00:37:15.940 back ferociously on the idea that the israelis might do a unilateral strike on the iranians

00:37:21.280 so noem was clearly and i say i think you had the clip in the previous segment clearly messaging in

00:37:26.920 this direction um it's unclear to the degree to which the gaza negotiations being led by wikof

00:37:33.300 and the iranian negotiations also being led by wikof are twinned of course extreme hardliners and

00:37:39.560 neoconservatives uh view uh a sunni islamic militant group in gaza as you know hook line

00:37:45.940 and sinker with the iranians i think that is not true but obviously these are partners and it is

00:37:51.440 very possible the two pieces are being uh negotiated uh together but again the separate negotiations

00:37:57.880 separate cities the hamas negotiations are in doha the iranian negotiations are in muscat and rome

00:38:04.080 and again the president uh you know sort of exploded the news cycle this weekend memorial day

00:38:09.280 weekend by saying we could have an iran deal in a day or two and uh you know there's this sort of

00:38:14.820 do ex machina uh explanation of how we could have an iran deal which is again it was i've been hearing

00:38:20.320 it over the weekend but it was in buried in the times report this morning that they are looking at

00:38:25.480 this uh and has been floated before this civil nuclear agreement between iran potentially the gulf

00:38:31.380 allies in the u.s and then additionally the iranian uh nuclear chief today indicated something he never

00:38:37.900 did or something that the iranians never did under obama that they would be opening to open to american

00:38:43.380 inspectors of their weapons program so i mean this is this has gone well beyond jcpoa uh anyone who says

00:38:50.260 this is a redux of the obama deal is lying and uh you know i think that this is uh fairly extraordinary

00:38:57.080 and we are we are quite close to a diplomatic breakthrough is american conservative and yourself

00:39:04.480 are you guys comfortable with even an advanced verification program like this and not a taking

00:39:10.400 it apart brick by brick peacefully not with air rays but peacefully doing whatever you need to do

00:39:14.660 economically to get them there are you guys comfortable that we can live with even a

00:39:19.780 verification program that we have inspectors going in sir i think i think we are i mean look i mean

00:39:26.780 if the iranians called up uh the united states yesterday and said we want to unilaterally disarm

00:39:31.600 we want to get rid of all our stuff uh you know i think we should accept that deal uh but they're not

00:39:36.100 going to do it um the reality is zero enrichment uh of any sort of having no nuclear program whatsoever

00:39:42.980 is they're almost certainly going to walk away from the deal and if they sign it they're just going

00:39:47.620 to be lying so it's not really a deal worth pursuing but a civil enrichment uh uh compendium

00:39:53.980 or um uh corridor with uh the gulf states with the u.s with u.s inspections um i think is quite

00:40:00.800 acceptable and you know uh it's very important and i don't want to be a broken uh record on this but

00:40:06.140 it's very important not to uh repeat the mistakes of iraq uh iraq had weapons inspectors they found no

00:40:13.020 weapons and they turned out there weren't any weapons and in some times of these you know tough

00:40:18.160 countries and tough parts of the world uh a lot of times the hardliners just need to signal for their

00:40:23.000 own security and for their own sort of self-belief but they don't actually have the weapons it's hard

00:40:27.380 to conceal these things uh you know we don't know everything about iran but they're under constant

00:40:31.980 surveillance uh they know the israelis as as uh as uh disclosed by wikileaks by the late colin

00:40:38.820 powell uh we know the israelis have 200 plus nuclear weapons and they're all trained on tehran

00:40:44.460 the daca stack deck is stacked against them we don't need to make an unforced error here

00:40:49.180 uh kurt uh what is your social media and how do people get over to the great magazine that you helm

00:40:56.160 and now that uh our own katherine o'neill is on your board uh it makes it even stronger where do 0.96

00:41:01.640 people go thanks it's uh www.theamericanconservative.com we have been founded and running out of

00:41:08.480 washington dc since 2002 when we were founded against the iraq war by conservatives and friends

00:41:13.540 uh and then my own uh channel is at kurt mills c-u-r-t-m-i-l-l-s on x twitter um you know pretty

00:41:21.380 active thank you uh and i want to have you back in the next couple days we'll get your schedule for

00:41:27.160 you to have to come back and i want to discuss this more in russia more with you you guys fascinating

00:41:31.120 uh the kurt mills uh tucker carlson school of uh national security i call it uh kurt brilliant

00:41:38.000 young man uh jim rickerts you've heard a lot this morning what are your thoughts and steve i'd just

00:41:44.200 like to draw a connection between two separate things you've been discussing one is the bricks

00:41:48.480 summit conference is coming up in rio de janeiro uh very shortly so that that's a big deal in and of

00:41:53.500 itself there's not going to be a new bricks currency i remind people that the bricks already have

00:41:59.060 a global currency it's called gold you can settle transactions in gold and they do it's non-digital

00:42:05.080 they can move it around you can't interdict it etc uh so they're already there they're working on

00:42:09.960 payment systems and the war in ukraine which we talked about and one of lindsey graham's sanctions

00:42:14.160 but also something zelensky talked about the other day they want to take uh the 300 billion dollars

00:42:20.640 of u.s treasury securities lawfully bought by russia that are in about 200 billion of them in euro clear

00:42:26.880 the rest are scattered on various bank custodians and use that to fund the war and zelensky said

00:42:32.720 the other day hey uh you know because trump uh probably the house representatives will not approve

00:42:37.060 i don't expect they will approve new funding for the war in ukraine but zelensky says no problem just

00:42:42.660 take the 300 billion dollars of russian assets and use that to pay for all the weapons systems

00:42:48.200 so what's the connection between those two things if you're india or you're brazil or saudi arabia and

00:42:54.060 by the way the bricks have expanded of course it's not just the original five and you're watching

00:42:57.980 this you're saying hey what if the u.s doesn't like what i do what if they steal my u.s treasury

00:43:03.400 securities that i hold my reserve positions etc so by our by our folly in ukraine this isn't a freeze

00:43:10.400 we freeze stuff all the time u.s is good at it this is theft this is armed robbery of the russian assets

00:43:15.720 lindsey graham's all in on this by the way this would be part of his you know new round of sanctions

00:43:20.380 uh but if you're in the other country and you're watching this you're saying get me out of u.s

00:43:24.480 treasury securities maybe you have to have some because there's no other asset class in the world

00:43:28.580 that that's big but there are hey jim jim jim just hey jim hang on hang on one second we're

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00:45:30.120 okay uh jim rickards thank you for joining us this morning uh closing thoughts and where do people go

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00:45:48.900 to get strategic intelligence sir some closing observations yeah thanks if you know in the last

00:45:54.520 segment we connected uh ukraine to bricks because um uh basically we're stealing the russian assets

00:46:00.900 that we're that using them to fund the war in ukraine and if you're the bricks you want to have gold

00:46:05.440 because that's the way to protect it let's take that a step further why did president trump and elon

00:46:09.940 musk not go to fort knox remember two months ago we're going to fort knox we're going to make sure

00:46:13.740 the gold's there etc and i said it on your show a year and a half ago and i said one of my books

00:46:17.880 nine years ago the gold is there i mean all this stuff the gold's not there it's there scott bessett

00:46:22.420 knows that he said so i believe him but here's what we don't know is that gold leased um and that's a

00:46:28.280 paper transaction but one ton of leased gold can support 100 tons of paper gold transactions and

00:46:34.220 you're vulnerable to a run on the bank and by the way if gold's not a monetary asset why does the

00:46:38.520 united states have 8 133 tons of it so the reason they canceled that visit in my view is that they

00:46:44.880 just don't want the gold is there they just don't want to call attention to it because it prompts a

00:46:49.360 lot of other questions about the role of gold but uh yeah thank you uh we have a landing page it's

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00:49:00.180 a cold open for mike lindell let's play it the most important trial ever begins in denver next week

00:49:08.080 if that sounds like a bit of an exaggeration or perhaps a completely wackadoodle claim you should

00:49:14.600 know that it's coming from my pillow guy and election denier mike lindell now in fairness to

00:49:19.220 lindell i am sure that it is the most important trial ever to him because he is the one who is

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00:49:31.760 and one particular coloradan rigged the 2020 election against donald trump truth is an absolute

00:49:39.300 defense against defamation so if lindell can come to court and prove that he was telling the

00:49:44.460 truth about election rigging he's in the clear i actually think that this upcoming trial deserves

00:49:52.240 more attention than it's getting because this is the chance for election deniers to provide their

00:49:58.260 proof of the alleged conspiracy the one that the most powerful man in the world president of the

00:50:03.000 united states will not stop talking about even now that he's back in the white house

00:50:06.400 but i think i know why this upcoming trial in denver is largely being ignored

00:50:11.800 let's start with the media it seems like a lot of national journalists are just tired of covering

00:50:18.960 trump's election rigging lies they're now five years old i also believe that a number of colorado's

00:50:25.860 local journalists are skittish about covering political extremism it draws accusations of bias

00:50:32.160 and threats of violence and if we're being totally honest it's a lot more complicated to cover than

00:50:38.080 much of what ends up on the evening news now let's talk about the general public i think a lot of

00:50:44.460 democrats are hesitant to talk about mike lindell's election rigging claims because they don't want

00:50:49.620 to give fuel to theories that erode faith in our elections i think a lot of republicans are hesitant to

00:50:56.560 talk about this too because while you see a bunch of republicans nod along in agreement with trump's

00:51:02.120 election rigging claims when people have to explain exactly how the elections are rigged

00:51:07.520 that's when folks start to sound goofy like the swirl of claims that dominion is rigging the vote with

00:51:15.740 help from antifa or venezuela or george soros the people pushing those theories for years have always

00:51:23.960 said they want their day in court well they're going to get it in denver starting next week

00:51:30.620 wow mike lindell is that guy's not maga but that's maybe the best assessment i've heard sir your

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Bannon's War Room - May 28, 2025

Episode 4518： The Sovereign Versus The Globalist; Defending Our Elections

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