Episode 4518： The Sovereign Versus The Globalist; Defending Our Elections
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Summary
The Great Jack Basobiec's speech in Poland is a speech about borders, culture and faith, and the need for self-determination and the right to self determination as opposed to the transnational cult of globalism and globalism itself.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do
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people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these
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people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to
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save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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it's wednesday 28 may in the year of our lord 2025 uh let's go we now uh in hungary he's left poland
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is the great jack basobiec uh jack you're joining this conversation we've got uh we've got jim
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records we've got joe allen we're all about artificial intelligence the battlefield what's
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happening and sucking us in inexorably into this war between russia and ukraine or russia and some
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of the european powers we also have the great kurt mills from american conservative we're going to
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get his perspective on all of it and particularly the persian part of this uh so you you gave a speech
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and for people in the war room it was uh classic poso but there must be a lot of people not listening
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to war room because your speech in poland brother is going mega viral what did you say and why are
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people that are maybe not familiar with jack basobiec all of a sudden saying wow what listen
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what this guy's saying sir well steve thanks so much for having me on and the speech you know it did
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the war room audience will come as no surprise that i gave in poland yesterday uh it was really just a
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speech about borders language culture and faith and in poland it just like all over here in eastern
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europe hungary as well this is what the fight's all about but it's actually the same fight that we have
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in the united states and people will say well how can you go to poland how can you go to these other
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places and i say well wait a minute because we're all facing the same thing the creeping godless atheism
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that is globalism and it's about all nations and all people having the right to self-determination
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as opposed to the transnational cult of davos the transnational cult that's run out of brussels
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the late uh keir starmer or excuse me the late uh klaus uh klaus schwab keir starmer is still with
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us unfortunately uh for a little bit longer though he's trying to he's trying to sound a few different
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notes the other way but look steve it you know i think this one was different because uh for a lot of
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people they could tell that i was speaking very personally it was an emotional speech for me because
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uh where we were where they held cpac poland was only about 40 minutes away from where the posobic
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village is in poland um right near legeis which is very very close by the way to the ukrainian
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border and so for me returning to the land of my ancestors the land of my forefathers the land of my
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heritage for the first time to give a speech and talk about these very same things was was
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extremely personal extremely important so 80 years after this cataclysmic of war uh that uh that was
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dead center in the middle of the most bloody century in mankind's history the new dark age the from 19
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august 1914 until really uh november of 1989 with the fall of the berlin wall and tiananman square and
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all that um right now you've got another war that's actually bloodier than the beginning of the of the
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second world war and it's getting nastier part of that's driven by and it seems like with all of
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your sitting there and going hey we had the same fight and you know we got to realize this godless
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atheism inside the american government inside the american power structure of wall street the
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corporations the oligarchs they all want it and we're being inexorably pulled in with the greatest
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single leader we've had uh since uh since i think abraham lincoln and i'm including fdr and ronald reagan
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in that uh you have a man that's adamantly opposed to getting sucked into here he is he is adamant about
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he's going to bring peace and attempting to bring peace over the last 72 hours because of drones and
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artificial intelligence and bad intentions we're getting sucked in more and more to this war and
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poland will will be sucked into the vortex of this more than any nation on earth sir
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well sir uh steve poland has already been uh involved in this and sucked in in so many ways
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poland taking millions and millions of ukrainian refugees by the way poland not taking in the
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economic refugees from the middle east that have been trying to come in but instead taking the actual
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war refugees that are fleeing this conflict from ukraine that have come in and groups like caritas
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and others that i've been supporting along the way have done a great job that's a catholic group that's
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in there in poland that focuses just on war refugees has done incredible work to help them steve poland
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also facing huge economic inflation issues similar to what we heard in 2024 because of their involvement
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in the war and that town jezhov where we were that's the key military uh transportation hub for
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all the nato equipment comes down into southern poland in that city of jezhov they ride it on the
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train right past my family's village and then it goes into lviv and then from there on down to the
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front line or the munitions go out and are dispersed as well by the way as we're now hearing these
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tourist missiles these long-range missiles they're all coming through with this entry point as well
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and of course you've got merz the german chancellor saying well we are giving uh we're giving zelinski
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this authority to strike deeper and deeper into russia of course moscow saw drone strikes last night
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and so the question is you hear merz trying to trap trump on this he said we got sign off from the
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united states of america i don't remember hearing president trump say anything about that i i follow
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his true social i i've heard him i go to the white house all the time i've never heard anything about
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president trump saying we authorize this but chancellor merz seems to think that it is but
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steve what what's really going on with this escalation is i think from both sides the russians
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and the ukrainians they've been offered this ceasefire deal by president trump they did do the prisoner
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swap over the weekend but it sounds like it is a resounding thanks but no thanks in terms of the
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ceasefire these guys want to slug this thing out they were they were attacked ukraine attacked
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moscow with i think with 300 drones last night in a coordinated uh attack uh records let me get you
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back in here because i'm with i'm with uh i'm with uh uh poso and i don't think i'm too naive but
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you're saying we are naive in the fact that mertz wouldn't be allowed to say that and more particularly
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they wouldn't be able to hit inside these targets unless the united states has somehow given them
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behind the scenes the okay and just don't want to have our hands dirty is that what you're saying
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that somebody either president trump or somebody's administration has given the wink and the nod
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to mertz to basically say uk france the united states and germany all authorize this sir
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that's exactly right and uh in addition to the green light and whether it was a wink and a nod or
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you know something secret uh it doesn't matter they got the green light but beyond that
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the germans couldn't do it it knows that ukrainians and the germans couldn't do it without u.s
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intelligence targeting surveillance analytics etc so the u.s is supporting whether it's implicit or
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explicit explicit you know leave that to the historians but the u.s has green lighted this
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there's no question about it by the way um people don't understand the armchair generals don't understand
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how restrained russia has been through this entire special military operation now yeah okay uh maybe a
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million ukrainians dead it's it's a war and it's a it's a bloody war uh it's highly lethal war but
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russia could level kiev in 24 hours uh so and and you know get rid of this land basically level the
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entire city why haven't they well because they they would like to win on their terms uh and the russian
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way of war is very slow but if you keep escalating to russia russia will escalate back russia has actually
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been very restrained and that will start to go away we will move closer to world war three uh the
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kind of scenarios we've been talking about uh as we escalate but we're escalating through ai and drones
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you're absolutely right about that but this is so dangerous and the sooner we get out and stop
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facilitating it the better for the world but you're saying and president trump has said hey we're going
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to wash our hands of it but uh liberal media or mainstream media will say you know bannon's got
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uh kurt mills on he's got jim rickards on these guys are apologists for the russians uh you know
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mills and the american conservative never seen an enemy the united states has there so what what is your
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counter to hey rickards is lost the plot here and he's just a mouthpiece and stooge for uh a dictator
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like putin uh who uh who has just ground this country into nothing and he's basically telling
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president trump just agree to whatever putin wants and let's walk away and get out of there sir
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yeah well i'm steve i'm one of a handful of people who actually follow the plot very closely so that's
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the first answer but you know when you have a debate like that why don't we use facts um so linds what
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does lindsey graham want what is his proposed senate legislation extreme sanctions on russia excuse me
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this would be the 17th round of sanctions since february 2022 if 16 rounds of sanctions have failed
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why on earth do you think the 17th round is going to work uh what he's doing is what's called a
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secondary boycott which is okay we already banned russian imports of certain things exports of
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certain things etc that's all it has all failed by the way leave aside the fact it's all failed
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but now they want to say well okay let's do a secondary boycott what is that so if you're a chinese bank
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and you facilitate a russian transaction we're going to punish the chinese bank in a lot of
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different ways you know shut down your branches in the u.s uh limit access to dollar payment systems
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and so there are there are ways to do it first of all nobody cares one of the reasons the sanctions
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have failed not the only one but nobody has joined in brazil china india um turkey uh malay these are
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some of the largest economies in the world india is now passed uh uh you know germany and japan uh
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or sorry japan at least is uh fourth largest economy in the world they're not in they haven't
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joined the sanctions so sanctions don't work if you don't have a partnership number one everyone
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has workarounds uh you can call them ghost vessels call them whatever you want you reflag the vessel
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um you know uh offload the oil in mid-ocean uh you know etc uh that these they're easy work
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mark rich figured this out in the 1980s in the 1990s remember we had sanctions on iraq they didn't work
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either that's good mark rich knew how to get around it and that and we still do uh the insurance
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ban all it did was diminish lloyd's uh global market share the insurance moved the insurance
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market moved to shanghai so um they failed they're going to keep failing um it's just but but so what's
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the purpose well the purpose is exactly what you say get the u.s involved somehow you know drag this
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out keep the weapons going keep the money going somehow get u.s boots on the ground and now you're
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now it's vietnam uh and uh and it'll be trump's war it's one of the great we'll we'll have we'll
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have mark mitchell on here in a while hopefully and but the polling on lindsey graham's 37 among
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republicans in maga in in carolina and this is the number one thing they bring up that this guy's a
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warmonger and this is from veterans and you know patriotic kind of hawk uh americans who don't want
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i see we see another 20 or 30 year war here that can end in any way poso in in poland uh with this
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election coming up the sovereignty the sovereignty group versus the globalist group are they though
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united on where do they come out on this war in ukraine and particularly american involvement
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look steve when it comes down to it you know poland for a lot of reasons there's a much
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different strategic calculus for them vis-a-vis the russians than it is for the americans for them
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russia is not some abstract force on the other side of the world it is literally next door where this
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war is being waged in ukraine after the russian invasion and so for them it support for nato and
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having that strong nato alliance is key that's why you hear these guys coming out and saying oh we
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we want to work with trump we want to work with trump but steve don't forget that the the husband
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of the current polish defense minister in the liberal side the globalist side is married to none
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other than ann applebaum the queen prince of the globalists herself over at the atlantic so they're
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deeply infiltrated at the highest level victoria victoria newland sorority sister real quickly uh
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you're in hungary what is orban orban is orban has looked he's been ostracized because he's been
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rational about this what is victor give me a minute on victor orban
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look victor orban's position has been simple it's been he said look whatever you want russia is always
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going to be at the other end of this continent from us so we'd rather work with them than pick
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another fight with them because we've seen how that turns out jack can you stick around through
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the break i know you're in hungary and you're very busy with media hits and and talking to officials
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can you okay fire jack pasopi's gonna stick with us jim rickard's gonna stick with us joe allen's
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gonna stick with us kurt mills is gonna join us ben harnwell we're loaded on a wednesday folks i'm
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telling you this artificial intelligence we got to get our arms around it asap you cannot put it off
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any longer cannot do it but it is also inexorably drawing us into this conflict we got to make a stand
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out president trump needs our support more than ever because the he sent a hundred globalists home
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okay we've got a we've got a team of all-stars here it's pretty amazing what we were able to pull
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together on a wednesday without artificial intelligence i might add uh but we got mark
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mitchell so mark i want to set the stage for us this discussion you guys at rasmussen are the best
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at polling maga and polling around president trump you've got some quite frankly pretty amazing
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numbers out particularly things i track like right track wrong track what the feeling of the country is
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walk me through the reality of kind of these great numbers for president trump
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yeah the way i look at it is we pull daily presidential approval rating and maybe that's
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a report card for the presidency the administration but in my opinion right direction wrong track is more
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of a report card for basically the democracy it's an important number and something that a pollster
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should be laser focused on because it means if the number goes up that americans are actually
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getting what they voted for and surprise over the last two decades of polling for rasmussen's history
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voters have not been getting what they've been voting for and the number has been horrifyingly low
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for almost all of obama's term right direction was essentially 30 percent joe biden was kicking
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around in the high 20s and high 30s all of a sudden trump 2.0 comes in and we're setting records
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right and left and i saw something yesterday that i never thought i'd see in my polling career
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is a 50 percent right direction print which means uh in layman speak that a majority of u.s likely voters
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for the very first time in rasmussen polling history think the country is headed in the right direction
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only 45 percent wrong track net plus five we've had quite a few prints now with a positive net right
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direction number and 100 of them have been in trump 47 it's really unprecedented now when i took when i
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took over the campaign in in 16 this was the number that pat cadena already been pulling on since
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really the reality of the iraq and afghanistan war since that whole debacle two-thirds of the nation
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thought we were regardless who the guy this is why obama's hope and change turned out to be nothing
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people just saw through it two-thirds one-third is is the thing a three-handle something at 33 to 35
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percent to 37 percent that's the american that's the number of americans traditionally think we're on
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the right track that's why this is historic you guys have been doing this for how many years sir
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on right track wrong track how long going back to 2006 so this definitely includes the first
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term of barack obama and i'm sorry barack obama the trump's numbers just blow you out of the water
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and trump approval numbers are now setting records compared to obama as well in a couple of respects
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and so basically again this is just higher than we've ever seen although it was elevated voters were
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also happy in the direction the country was going in trump's first term he averaged about a 40 35 to 40
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over his term but covet was in there and it made it kind of weird the previous record high was january
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of 2017 and the previous high before that was february of 2020 when it was soaring again for economic not
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political reasons and we all know what happened next and so here we are basically round tripping
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right direction from covid hot pre-covid highs and it's because voters like how trump came in and
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we've talked before about how all of his policy agenda items are more popular even than he is but
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i'll tell you what like doge was super popular people understanding the level of waste fraud and abuse
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this election in the fall was a referendum on business as usual in washington dc now i think it's
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summertime i think people are chilling out now i think we got through a period of economic unease
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i don't know what the geopolitical situation is going to do but what i do think is that if republicans
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don't get it together people are going to start paying attention in ways that they have not before
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as we approach the midterms and i can tell you that there is a lot of potential for this to get
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screwed up and it would probably come from republicans right now we asked a question like we asked people
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how they rate the job that congress is doing only 16 of republicans say excellent that's a low number
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can't get to a majority with excellent plus good and then we asked you agree or disagree
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congress is not delivering on the mandate that they have been given and this is from just last week
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60 of republicans at least somewhat agreed with that statement so that's pretty profound and again
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a lot's been happening people are generally happy with the stuff they're seeing out of the trump
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administration but as far as like you and i both know a lot of it's been been promises and executive
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orders and congress is in my opinion outward view not breaking a sweat here
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i know you got to bounce but i just want to go back i know what this audience voted for and what i voted
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for uh and some of my panelists voted for and i'm always putting up hey this is what i voted for
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going after harvard what is it that the american people more than the maga right what are the
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american people seeing that now have over 50 percent of us saying that 50 percent of our countrymen
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saying that it's um it's uh we're on the right track i think there's a lot of positive headlines i
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think that there's things about accountability coming out there's the executive orders um there's all
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these major business deals it's hard to point your finger at any one thing but trump came out of the
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gates really strong doge was very popular doge was actually more popular than trump was back in january
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and february when it was in the headlines and we had a number of 70 percent of people who were
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uh very or somewhat angry at the level of waste fraud and abuse coming after uh coming out of the
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government and we also had almost 70 percent of people who supported doge style audits of major
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government programs like social security now we're talking about it's like great that there
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were the tax cut promises but again it all just looks like behind closed doors businesses usual
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washington dc back scratching going on when are they going to up the energy level listen from an
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outsider perspective i have to assume that if the democrats get back in control they're going to take a
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hatchet to things like the supreme court or maybe the 60 vote limit in the in the senate why is that
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not on the table right now why are we not having the senate uh forcing the senate to filibuster
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legislation for things like election integrity that should be one page easy wins because 90 percent of
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the country supports it why are we not doing that make them talk around the clock to defend
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why we're not going to fix our elections people are talking about epstein on on twitter and we asked
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how important is it that they release epstein documents 35 percent say uh very important i think
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it was like 67 percent say at least somewhat support important but we asked how important is it for the
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trump administration to release proof of election fraud 47 percent very important and it's in the 70s at
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least somewhat so that issue in my opinion isn't really even being talked about and it was as we've
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talked about many times a key issue for 2024 and so institutional trust i want to hammer that is the
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problem over and over again then if we slip back into just dcbs it's gonna crumble and and already we
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had our first generic ballot of the cycle last week democrat plus one democrats have not been up in a
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generic ballot for rasmussen in like two or three years now and so for the democrats to take a lead
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for republicans to slide i can only assume that it's a reaction to what people are seeing going on
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right now people voted trump in they had to vote republicans in like by proxy but i think that there's
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a huge opportunity for republicans to lose this support and the party is still the party we all know it
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donald trump is really good he's got a grassroots army that helps donald trump get elected haven't yet
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seen it get your bog standard republican elected uh where do people go for all this amazing insight
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and reportage and analysis sir uh i love twitter i'm on there all day at honest pollster the handle
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was available believe it or not and rasmussen underscore poll and we stream a few times a week usually late at
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night hit us up on youtube rumble or getter at rasmussen underscore poll hope to see everybody
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there uh thank you we want to have you back when you get another bite at these numbers incredible
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over 50 think the country's going in the right direction first time in two decades uh poso i know
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you got a bounce i got kurt mills on deck i know you got a bounce uh your thoughts your thoughts about
00:25:34.020
this polling your thoughts about the lindsey graham only at 37 percent and us being inexorably drawn
00:25:40.000
in to the kinetic part of the third world war in ukraine which for years poso from the day the
00:25:46.220
war started you were our guest uh you were a contributor here why is this happening we've got
00:25:52.500
a couple of minutes sir well steve when it comes down to it the polls are going the way they are
00:25:59.000
because president trump has kept his promises he made several promises many big ones to the american
00:26:05.060
people throughout his campaign and that's exactly what he's done he's delivering on no tax on tips
00:26:10.200
he's delivering on the tax relief for the working class and the middle class he's delivering on the
00:26:15.820
inflation relief for families and of course he's fighting hard on the deportation front i was with
00:26:21.600
secretary christy noem yesterday got a chance to sit with her talk about work that's being done to
00:26:26.360
increase the deportation numbers and of course president trump's other third big promise of was
00:26:32.820
the keeping us out of wars specifically winding down the u.s involvement in the ukraine russia war
00:26:40.640
and seeking peace there that's why you're seeing and even the russians now are offering off-ramps
00:26:45.540
saying look look we would much prefer the peace deal but what the russians want it i think it's very
00:26:50.360
simple they don't want just a ceasefire now and the frozen conflict that was one of the first pieces
00:26:56.180
that was offered what they want is the big deal they want a grand deal between the u.s and russia and i
00:27:04.340
i think you hear trump saying that as well through some of these communiques that he's made talking
00:27:09.600
about bringing them into the g8 again turning the trade back on again but then putin will turn around
00:27:14.560
and go back to his oligarchs and say hey we don't think these sanctions are going away anytime soon
00:27:19.020
so the key here is making sure that we stay off the escalatory on-ramp to the kinetic part of the
00:27:26.980
third world war and so when i hear the neocons and you're going to hear this they're going to push for
00:27:32.120
another spending bill we've got to have maga and america first stand strong for no more funding of
00:27:38.560
the ukraine war um jack pasovic thank you very much where do people go to get all your content you're
00:27:47.020
now in hungary at cpac hungary mo bannon's over there also a great crew is there we're going to be
00:27:52.840
live streaming it uh and we're also or i should say we're going to be streaming it because in the
00:27:57.340
middle of the night we're going to be streaming all of it uh where do people go to get all your content
00:28:01.020
sir uh go up on x it's at jack pasovic if case you miss any of that we're at human events daily we'll be
00:28:09.020
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so so kurt mills uh you're one of the smartest guys out there you just heard uh mark mitchell
00:29:57.080
another brilliant guy on the polling president trump now the people think the country's on the
00:30:01.160
right track they're supporting president trump more than ever we know why we voted for him and
00:30:06.100
we can't get enough we love it obviously there's certain things we disagree with and disagree with
00:30:10.280
adamantly but hey directionally president trump's delivery and the american people are seeing this
00:30:15.000
in particular this new coalition we're pulling together are you concerned that uh in one of the
00:30:21.860
reasons he's a he's a man of peace he's a strong man people do not cross him these uh dictators
00:30:27.780
throughout the world are crossing he's a man of peace but dude you look at the last 72 hours in
00:30:33.040
ukraine and russia we're being sucked into this and we're being sucked into this because of american
00:30:37.940
weapon systems these drones this artificial intelligent target acquisition and fire control solutions
00:30:43.620
uh what is going on here and what is the perspective of kurt mills and american conservatives sir
00:30:48.580
well to link to the previous segment i'll say the following um you know to the extent that we can rely
00:30:55.320
on public opinion polls and i think they have become far more rickety over the years as you're aware
00:30:59.480
but to the extent that we view them as a good snapshot of what is going on since trump has done his
00:31:05.420
middle east uh tour since trump has sidelined nsa mike waltz and since trump has made clear
00:31:11.820
uh that he wants to make good on his promise of ending the endless wars uh you have seen a clear
00:31:17.760
spike in the polls uh for the president and i think that's you know really notable i mean uh trump has
00:31:23.940
basically returned to the mid-january position where he has the democrats on the back heel now as to the
00:31:30.280
question of russia uh obviously the administration is extremely frustrated uh obviously the uh russians
00:31:36.460
are playing hardball i mean the russians demands in and of themselves are fairly extraordinary uh you
00:31:41.620
know i know uh you know our magazine is often uh typecast as uh you know non-interventionist to a fault
00:31:47.460
but the russian demands for uh territory that they have not actually conquered um is a novel uh approach
00:31:55.280
from moscow and one that the obviously the administration uh should rebut and i think they
00:31:59.840
are um but i think right now it's not worth panicking uh you know don't be a panicking as the president
00:32:07.280
said that that we are necessarily spiraling uh into something that trump can't negotiate us out of
00:32:13.260
um i do think what is notable and i do think what is concerning is that uh putin's uh uh lieutenant
00:32:20.560
dimentary medvedev the former russian president again yesterday or maybe the day before floated
00:32:26.740
uh russia's renewed nuclear doctrine i mean it's very very clear that the intelligentsia in moscow
00:32:34.180
is one aggrieved and two pretty nuclear curious i mean i mean the intelligence assessments during the
00:32:40.800
biden administration where the russians got close to a 50 chance of using a tactical nuke um this is not
00:32:47.360
to be trifled with and i think that's the reason why why negotiations are so key not only in russia
00:32:53.320
but also in the middle east do you uh is poso right is is what putin's looking at which we've
00:33:02.280
supported but i don't see it happening right now because of so much of what's happening in ukraine
00:33:07.060
and and and with persia but do you think that they're still interested in overall rapprochement or
00:33:12.800
since that he was playing footsie like a teenager was she over the 80th anniversary of victory in
00:33:19.380
europe day in moscow the parades and the 35 agreements they signed have you seen him backing
00:33:24.420
off there do you still agree with with uh with poso that this rapprochement this overall uh some sort
00:33:31.140
of strategic realignment we may make is still on the table and even active um i think rapprochement
00:33:38.720
with russia is still on the table i think what is going on is effectively i mean there are two main
00:33:43.900
explanations in my view for why the russians have i've started playing hardball number one uh the
00:33:49.360
russians may behind the scenes want to effectively vimarize uh ukraine which is like even if zelinski
00:33:55.200
signs a piece of paper which is dubious or even if the u.s signs a piece of paper and zelinski's not
00:33:59.340
in the room uh the question of uh ukrainian military projection into russia is a live one uh they have
00:34:06.580
routine drone strikes on moscow they are capable of assassinating uh upper crust members of the
00:34:12.000
russian military and uh if you have the view that i do which i know is not necessarily the popular view
00:34:17.240
that the ukrainians uh were behind north stream uh or at least the evidence so far is that they were
00:34:23.160
and that they potentially acted alone there is severe cause for anxiety in russia that even if they
00:34:29.340
sign a deal the elements of the of the ukrainian government may try to keep the war going especially
00:34:34.600
since zelinski himself fears his own hardliners i think explanation two is that putin himself
00:34:40.940
is wary of demobilization so quickly uh the war itself would mean ending today would mean that you
00:34:47.400
know hundreds of thousands of troops would go home potentially without jobs potentially without pay
00:34:52.380
and of course that's as you know that's unstable for for any leader uh you know so quickly and so
00:34:59.340
uh demobilization uh collapsed germany as as you're aware and uh in in 1918 and i don't think
00:35:05.920
the russian situation is nearly that dire in fact the russians have the upper hand the germans did not
00:35:10.320
uh but still it could explain why the russians want to drag this out and then finally the russians
00:35:15.320
themselves are a very you know this is not the soviet union uh and i think that's a specious argument to
00:35:21.900
make the to make that claim but the russians themselves do have a lot of the soviet architecture
00:35:26.740
which means it's a very it's a very bureaucratic society uh things go slowly uh you know oftentimes
00:35:33.900
and there's a million uh different you know uh check marks to make on the list before getting any
00:35:38.940
deal so yeah uh the early deal uh is off the table the deal by the uh uh you know victory parade in early
00:35:46.260
may as some people hoped off the table um and we could be in for a long summer uh but no need to
00:35:52.060
panic yet uh i think i we've got a hard-nosed diplomatic approach for the administration
00:35:57.020
and they're playing it right um christy noem was in and supposedly was there to to talk about the uh
00:36:05.780
two young people who were assassinated in washington dc uh but she had time to to actually
00:36:11.240
meet with netanyahu and i think inform him that president trump's not just preferred path but the
00:36:16.940
he's going down to some sort of diplomatic or economic deal that uh that uh stops the potential
00:36:22.680
for a threat of a nuclear weapon with the persians what's your assessment of this but netanyahu
00:36:27.920
one of the reasons waltz is gone is behind you know behind the scenes meetings uh with some of
00:36:34.680
the israeli staff uh do you think this is playing out as you uh as you envision well i'm not sure
00:36:42.820
anybody had christy noem all due respect to the secretary as trump's bad cop on their uh on their
00:36:48.660
uh play sheet but that appears to be what happened uh i mean huckabee uh embraced her when she came
00:36:54.220
and then per all reportings and look uh whatever you think of israel the israeli press is quite good
00:36:59.540
and uh you know the israeli press has basically reported that she delivered a tough message which is
00:37:05.520
back off the president wants to negotiate with iran we're very committed to having a ceasefire in gaza
00:37:10.680
uh and again as reported again in the times this morning uh you know the white house is pushing
00:37:15.940
back ferociously on the idea that the israelis might do a unilateral strike on the iranians
00:37:21.280
so noem was clearly and i say i think you had the clip in the previous segment clearly messaging in
00:37:26.920
this direction um it's unclear to the degree to which the gaza negotiations being led by wikof
00:37:33.300
and the iranian negotiations also being led by wikof are twinned of course extreme hardliners and
00:37:39.560
neoconservatives uh view uh a sunni islamic militant group in gaza as you know hook line
00:37:45.940
and sinker with the iranians i think that is not true but obviously these are partners and it is
00:37:51.440
very possible the two pieces are being uh negotiated uh together but again the separate negotiations
00:37:57.880
separate cities the hamas negotiations are in doha the iranian negotiations are in muscat and rome
00:38:04.080
and again the president uh you know sort of exploded the news cycle this weekend memorial day
00:38:09.280
weekend by saying we could have an iran deal in a day or two and uh you know there's this sort of
00:38:14.820
do ex machina uh explanation of how we could have an iran deal which is again it was i've been hearing
00:38:20.320
it over the weekend but it was in buried in the times report this morning that they are looking at
00:38:25.480
this uh and has been floated before this civil nuclear agreement between iran potentially the gulf
00:38:31.380
allies in the u.s and then additionally the iranian uh nuclear chief today indicated something he never
00:38:37.900
did or something that the iranians never did under obama that they would be opening to open to american
00:38:43.380
inspectors of their weapons program so i mean this is this has gone well beyond jcpoa uh anyone who says
00:38:50.260
this is a redux of the obama deal is lying and uh you know i think that this is uh fairly extraordinary
00:38:57.080
and we are we are quite close to a diplomatic breakthrough is american conservative and yourself
00:39:04.480
are you guys comfortable with even an advanced verification program like this and not a taking
00:39:10.400
it apart brick by brick peacefully not with air rays but peacefully doing whatever you need to do
00:39:14.660
economically to get them there are you guys comfortable that we can live with even a
00:39:19.780
verification program that we have inspectors going in sir i think i think we are i mean look i mean
00:39:26.780
if the iranians called up uh the united states yesterday and said we want to unilaterally disarm
00:39:31.600
we want to get rid of all our stuff uh you know i think we should accept that deal uh but they're not
00:39:36.100
going to do it um the reality is zero enrichment uh of any sort of having no nuclear program whatsoever
00:39:42.980
is they're almost certainly going to walk away from the deal and if they sign it they're just going
00:39:47.620
to be lying so it's not really a deal worth pursuing but a civil enrichment uh uh compendium
00:39:53.980
or um uh corridor with uh the gulf states with the u.s with u.s inspections um i think is quite
00:40:00.800
acceptable and you know uh it's very important and i don't want to be a broken uh record on this but
00:40:06.140
it's very important not to uh repeat the mistakes of iraq uh iraq had weapons inspectors they found no
00:40:13.020
weapons and they turned out there weren't any weapons and in some times of these you know tough
00:40:18.160
countries and tough parts of the world uh a lot of times the hardliners just need to signal for their
00:40:23.000
own security and for their own sort of self-belief but they don't actually have the weapons it's hard
00:40:27.380
to conceal these things uh you know we don't know everything about iran but they're under constant
00:40:31.980
surveillance uh they know the israelis as as uh as uh disclosed by wikileaks by the late colin
00:40:38.820
powell uh we know the israelis have 200 plus nuclear weapons and they're all trained on tehran
00:40:44.460
the daca stack deck is stacked against them we don't need to make an unforced error here
00:40:49.180
uh kurt uh what is your social media and how do people get over to the great magazine that you helm
00:40:56.160
and now that uh our own katherine o'neill is on your board uh it makes it even stronger where do
00:41:01.640
people go thanks it's uh www.theamericanconservative.com we have been founded and running out of
00:41:08.480
washington dc since 2002 when we were founded against the iraq war by conservatives and friends
00:41:13.540
uh and then my own uh channel is at kurt mills c-u-r-t-m-i-l-l-s on x twitter um you know pretty
00:41:21.380
active thank you uh and i want to have you back in the next couple days we'll get your schedule for
00:41:27.160
you to have to come back and i want to discuss this more in russia more with you you guys fascinating
00:41:31.120
uh the kurt mills uh tucker carlson school of uh national security i call it uh kurt brilliant
00:41:38.000
young man uh jim rickerts you've heard a lot this morning what are your thoughts and steve i'd just
00:41:44.200
like to draw a connection between two separate things you've been discussing one is the bricks
00:41:48.480
summit conference is coming up in rio de janeiro uh very shortly so that that's a big deal in and of
00:41:53.500
itself there's not going to be a new bricks currency i remind people that the bricks already have
00:41:59.060
a global currency it's called gold you can settle transactions in gold and they do it's non-digital
00:42:05.080
they can move it around you can't interdict it etc uh so they're already there they're working on
00:42:09.960
payment systems and the war in ukraine which we talked about and one of lindsey graham's sanctions
00:42:14.160
but also something zelensky talked about the other day they want to take uh the 300 billion dollars
00:42:20.640
of u.s treasury securities lawfully bought by russia that are in about 200 billion of them in euro clear
00:42:26.880
the rest are scattered on various bank custodians and use that to fund the war and zelensky said
00:42:32.720
the other day hey uh you know because trump uh probably the house representatives will not approve
00:42:37.060
i don't expect they will approve new funding for the war in ukraine but zelensky says no problem just
00:42:42.660
take the 300 billion dollars of russian assets and use that to pay for all the weapons systems
00:42:48.200
so what's the connection between those two things if you're india or you're brazil or saudi arabia and
00:42:54.060
by the way the bricks have expanded of course it's not just the original five and you're watching
00:42:57.980
this you're saying hey what if the u.s doesn't like what i do what if they steal my u.s treasury
00:43:03.400
securities that i hold my reserve positions etc so by our by our folly in ukraine this isn't a freeze
00:43:10.400
we freeze stuff all the time u.s is good at it this is theft this is armed robbery of the russian assets
00:43:15.720
lindsey graham's all in on this by the way this would be part of his you know new round of sanctions
00:43:20.380
uh but if you're in the other country and you're watching this you're saying get me out of u.s
00:43:24.480
treasury securities maybe you have to have some because there's no other asset class in the world
00:43:28.580
that that's big but there are hey jim jim jim just hey jim hang on hang on one second we're
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to get strategic intelligence sir some closing observations yeah thanks if you know in the last
00:45:54.520
segment we connected uh ukraine to bricks because um uh basically we're stealing the russian assets
00:46:00.900
that we're that using them to fund the war in ukraine and if you're the bricks you want to have gold
00:46:05.440
because that's the way to protect it let's take that a step further why did president trump and elon
00:46:09.940
musk not go to fort knox remember two months ago we're going to fort knox we're going to make sure
00:46:13.740
the gold's there etc and i said it on your show a year and a half ago and i said one of my books
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nine years ago the gold is there i mean all this stuff the gold's not there it's there scott bessett
00:46:22.420
knows that he said so i believe him but here's what we don't know is that gold leased um and that's a
00:46:28.280
paper transaction but one ton of leased gold can support 100 tons of paper gold transactions and
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you're vulnerable to a run on the bank and by the way if gold's not a monetary asset why does the
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united states have 8 133 tons of it so the reason they canceled that visit in my view is that they
00:46:44.880
just don't want the gold is there they just don't want to call attention to it because it prompts a
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lot of other questions about the role of gold but uh yeah thank you uh we have a landing page it's
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it look forward to having you back here sir thanks jim best geopolitical thinker out there um
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a cold open for mike lindell let's play it the most important trial ever begins in denver next week
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if that sounds like a bit of an exaggeration or perhaps a completely wackadoodle claim you should
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know that it's coming from my pillow guy and election denier mike lindell now in fairness to
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lindell i am sure that it is the most important trial ever to him because he is the one who is
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going to be on trial accused of defamation for saying that denver-based dominion voting systems
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and one particular coloradan rigged the 2020 election against donald trump truth is an absolute
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defense against defamation so if lindell can come to court and prove that he was telling the
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truth about election rigging he's in the clear i actually think that this upcoming trial deserves
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more attention than it's getting because this is the chance for election deniers to provide their
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proof of the alleged conspiracy the one that the most powerful man in the world president of the
00:50:03.000
united states will not stop talking about even now that he's back in the white house
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but i think i know why this upcoming trial in denver is largely being ignored
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let's start with the media it seems like a lot of national journalists are just tired of covering
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trump's election rigging lies they're now five years old i also believe that a number of colorado's
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local journalists are skittish about covering political extremism it draws accusations of bias
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and threats of violence and if we're being totally honest it's a lot more complicated to cover than
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much of what ends up on the evening news now let's talk about the general public i think a lot of
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democrats are hesitant to talk about mike lindell's election rigging claims because they don't want
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to give fuel to theories that erode faith in our elections i think a lot of republicans are hesitant to
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talk about this too because while you see a bunch of republicans nod along in agreement with trump's
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election rigging claims when people have to explain exactly how the elections are rigged
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that's when folks start to sound goofy like the swirl of claims that dominion is rigging the vote with
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help from antifa or venezuela or george soros the people pushing those theories for years have always
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said they want their day in court well they're going to get it in denver starting next week
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wow mike lindell is that guy's not maga but that's maybe the best assessment i've heard sir your
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thoughts well i'm looking at the courthouse everybody the federal courthouse and and this
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thank you mike we'll see you this afternoon the five o'clock hour charlie kirk is next poster after
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