Episode 4520: And Then They Came For The Tariffs
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A 3-judge panel on the International Court of Trade yesterday ruled that the President did not have the authority to impose the sweeping tariffs that he has proposed. The judges found that Trump's use of the decades-old International Emergency Economic Powers Act did not delegate an unbounded tariff authority to the President, and that Trump s tariffs lacked any identifiable limits.
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trade court has blocked most of President Trump's trade tariffs. A three-judge panel
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on the International Court of Trade yesterday ruled that the president did not have the
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authority to impose the sweeping tariffs. The judges found that Trump's use of the decades-old
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International Emergency Economic Powers Act did not, quote, delegate an unbounded tariff
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authority to the president, and that Trump's tariffs lacked, quote, any identifiable limits.
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Lawyers for the Trump administration have already said that they will appeal.
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And we are so pleased, not just on behalf of, you know, our states, but just all states and all
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consumers and especially small businesses that were on the verge of being hammered by these tariffs,
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which really are taxes and tax increases. So we're very happy about this decision, but you're
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correct. The Trump administration has already indicated that they're going to try to get a
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stay on the Court of International Trade's decision, which was very sweeping, and put a halt within 10
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days to all of these tariffs, essentially. We'll see what the court does. The court really issued a
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very strong opinion. They essentially made a decision on the merits of the case in what is
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essentially a final decision by them, even though the states, we were asking for a preliminary injunction.
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So they actually went a little further than we were even asking for. So they're very strong in
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their decision. We'll see what they say when the Trump administration asks for a stay.
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Night, have you spoken to the president? And ultimately, what's his reaction to what we heard?
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Haven't spoken to the president yet, but I've spoken to people who have spoken to the president.
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Look, we're in a situation now, big picture here is IEPA. We were using the International Emergency
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Economic Powers Act. There's no question that there's an economic emergency with respect to both
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uses that we had. One is we are in a world where China has killed over a million Americans
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with fentanyl poison. And we took this step to stop that. We will continue to press on that. At the same
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time, we invoke that rule to stop what has been 20 million illegal aliens streaming into our country,
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driving down wages, taking jobs away. That's an economic emergency. On top of that, the world
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continues to steal about a trillion dollars a year, as measured by the trade deficit.
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And that's an economic emergency because it's transferring our wealth abroad. So we think
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we have a strong case. Yes, we will immediately appeal and try to stay the ruling. But at the same
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time, the court, interestingly enough, basically said we were right, just use different rules and
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laws. So nothing has really changed here in that sense. We're still, as we speak, having countries
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call us and tell us they want a deal. So these deals are going to happen. So that's kind of where
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we're at. And it's troublesome here, because if you look broadly at the pattern, we've got courts in this
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country who are basically engaged in attacks on the American people. The president ran on stopping the
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fentanyl poisoning, stopping international trade unfair practices from stealing our factories and
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jobs. And courts keep getting in the way of that. The courts get in the way of our trying to deal with
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the border issues. Now they're getting in the way of our trying to deal with the fentanyl crisis.
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And that's where we stand here. And I think I think part of what's going to be important about
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this ruling demonstrates yet again to the American people that the judiciary in this country
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has been weaponized in ways which are contrary to their interests feel very confident as we move
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through the appeals process. If you actually listened to what the Trump's lawyers were arguing in court,
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it is befuddling. They were saying that any emergency order cannot be reviewed by any judge.
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Then they said any of the relief that they put out into the world as a result of that emergency order
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cannot be reviewed by a judge. Effectively, you could tax maple syrup in Canada to try and impact
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fentanyl in the U.S. Absurd stuff. And no judge could review it. And as A.G. Mays pointed out,
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these tariffs trickle down to us so they could put in a thousand, you know, what, a thousand percent
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tariff on any good, which would trickle down to us without any congressional approval and without any
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court being able to strike it down. That's how powerful the judge's order was yesterday and really
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a rebuke of the Trump administration's belief that they are immune to review by the courts.
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I mean, look, any trade lawyer knows there's just a number of different options we can take. If you
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look at the kind of things we've already done, it kind of gives you a roadmap on that. There's all
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sorts of numbers out there. There's 122, there's 301, there's 232, there's 338. There's all sorts of
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things we can do well within the law. But look, we think that what we've done already is perfectly,
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appropriate. So that's why the appeal will take case. We have a situation where the bond market,
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we've seen like a 50 basis point increase in yields in the 10 year since April 2nd. And a lot of the
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hysteria around the big, beautiful tax bill centers on the Congressional Budget Office scoring that bill
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in a way which says there's going to be a $3.7 trillion addition to America's national debt over
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the next 10 years. And so of course, you got to finance that and that drives interest rates up and
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heads explode. When in fact, if you do the math properly, and you like look at the history of the
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CBO forecasts, you actually see about a $5 trillion swing to a $2 trillion surplus from the bill. And I'd
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like to walk you through the math there. It's like the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office,
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historically has been very bad at estimating impacts of tax bills. In the 2017 tax cut that
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President Trump did, they got that totally wrong. They underestimated the GDP growth by a full
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percentage point. And what that does, if they make that same mistake here, which they have done,
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when you add that, that's about $2 trillion of additional revenue because you got greater economic
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activity. And then- Peter, you also have the revenue from the tariffs, which I saw your opinion
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piece in the Hill. I just want to get back to the tariffs. I just want to get back to the tariffs
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because you don't have that revenue. Well, that's another $2 trillion. If you don't have the legal
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authority to use it, though- The kids are little. Democrats should not take the bait here. We should
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not be the grand defenders of Harvard University. We should be the ones calling for billions of
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dollars to go to vocational education. But this is wrong. They have $70 billion. They have a $70
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billion endowment. You get a tax deduction from donating to the Harvard rowing team. You get a tax
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deduction for getting students another sushi bar. It is all about just people trying to retain social
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class. It is a whole elitist play. We all know that. Harvard can defend themselves. Not one person at
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this table can name one advancement that occurred from a taxpayer-funded project at Harvard in the
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last five years. That's not true. There's tons of scientific research going on at Harvard. They
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have hospitals. I mean, that is absolutely- They got hospitals. Beautiful. And by the way, don't let-
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No, they have tons of scientific research. That's completely wrong. And also, let me say,
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this is Viktor Orban, right? This is Hungary. This is what authoritarians do. They go for universities
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because they don't want dissent. So when you are actually- It's not about Harvard. It's about
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academic freedom. And that is a real thing. It has nothing to do with being fancy or having a tax
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deduction. We're talking about politics here. And the Democrats have a ton of things to focus on.
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Medicaid cuts, snap cuts, giveaways to the rich. Harvard can handle themselves. People should not
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get a tax deduction for giving to Harvard. And they have $70 billion. They don't need any more
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benefits. I just want to say one last thing. It's Harvard today. It's every other college
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tomorrow. I mean, it'll go after all of them. This kind of court ruling, the judge, I mean,
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look, the lead judge- But if the court said, if the ruling said, Peter, and we've been talking
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about this, page 34, 35, they say, basically, you're in your right if you use section 122.
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Why didn't you guys do that from the beginning?
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Well, section 122 only gives you 150 days. So there's your answer right there.
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So are you, section 122, if you use this now for 150 days, could it be a bridge to 301 or a bridge to
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You can be the strategist on that. But those are the kinds of thoughts. And look, if anybody thinks
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this has caused the administration by surprise, think again. Okay? Because you could see in the
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oral arguments where those judges were going. And the lead judge in this, I mean, the problem
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with that court, it's such an obscure court, but it's consistently been globalist pro-importer
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giving us bad rulings. The lead judge there ruled against the 232s originally and had to get
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overturned by the appeals court. So that gives you an idea of the bias against the president's
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tariff policy right on that court. But I think the big picture here is we've got a very strong case
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with IEPA, but the court basically tells us if we lose that, we just do some other thing. So nothing's
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really changed. I want to say this to the world. You're cheating us. We're coming after you. Deal.
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And let's make this right. Because ultimately, what's at stake here is the global international
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environment getting in a way where it's fair to America. And thereby, if it's fair to America,
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and we restructure this thing in a way, we'll have just more stability in terms of financial flows and
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capital and everything like that. It's wildly out of balance now.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The
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people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Thursday, 29 May, year of our Lord, 2025. And then they came for the tariffs.
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Remember, the three lines of work. One, stop the kinetic part of the Third World War from spreading
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and shut it down, have people lay their guns down, President Trump all over that. Number two is to
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stop the invasion of the southern border, secure it, and then deport
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assignment, not just the bad hombres, but all 13 million invaders
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Essentially, the business model of the country,
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restructuring the commercial relationships of the world so the United States
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is not, the people in the United States are not continually hammered
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by the Lords of Easy Money and the big tech corporations and the Chinese Communist Party
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and others that have taken advantage of, not taken advantage, worked in conjunctions with the elites.
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So last night, the only thing the Democrats have going for them, all the polling Democrats, worst I've ever seen,
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Unfortunately, they don't have any populist, economic populist.
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The only thing they got going for them is a judicial insurrection of these radical judges.
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And yesterday, a three-judge panel, and Peter, I would, the only thing I would disagree with, Peter's,
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Dr. Navarro's assessment, I don't think it's an obscure court.
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And they essentially laid a blanket, a blanket opinion that President Trump can't do what he's doing.
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In the essentially reshoring and rebuilding of American manufacturing
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and the reason that, you know, a couple trillion dollars,
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not from sovereign wealth funds but from real companies,
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have already been, you know, committed to being invested
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And what President Trump is saying is a complete package.
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And plus, you're going to have to pay a premium
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And they're hammering on the two most important parts
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to essentially send the invader back to their home countries
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and, in addition, to make sure that the process
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of essentially stripping America of her industrial might
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and high-value-added jobs with it are thwarted.
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We're going to have Dan Epstein on later in the show
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because the war room posse needs the receipts here
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because you're going to be the tip of the spear
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the 10-year anniversary coming down the golden escalator.
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And we're going to do all kind of specials about that.
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And we've got the big military parade and Flag Day