Episode 4522： Trump's Tariff Battle Wages On After Victory In Court
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On today's show, Mark and Charlie discuss the latest in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including the latest strike on Iran, the potential for a third world war, and the lack of support from the United States for Bibi Netanyahu.
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Go it alone. It's it's it's the end of the American relationship with Israel.
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It's just the end of it. You can't because we're so tied to them. We're going to because it's not
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just blowing the nuclear thing. First off, we haven't done anything really on putting economic
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pressure on them. The president's got a whole toolbox in news. President Trump is adamant about
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this. And listen, he's trying to he's trying to make sure what he's trying to do is make sure we
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don't exacerbate the third world war right now, the kinetic part, all the way from Kursk through
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Kiev, that whole arc of instability. The president is on his shoulders. He's got Wyckoff as lead
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negotiator, but he's got a lot of people working on this. It's and Kristi Noem, she didn't go over
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there to talk about the two young people who were assassinated. As horrible as that was, it was it
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was she didn't need to go there. She went over to deliver a message. And that message is pretty blunt
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to Bibi. And Bibi's got to learn how to read the room because there's just no support of that
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whatsoever. The polling is is is horrible under 35. It's 100 to zero. So I and we haven't put any
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economic pressure on them. They're still shipping out two million barrels a day to the Chinese
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Communist Party through the Straits of Hormuz. Let's take one of the carrier battle groups in
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the Red Sea and put it right there and say, hey, we're going to fully stop. We President Trump
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had them to their knees. See, folks, see, folks, economically. This is this is Steve Venn's
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economic pressure. Put a couple of carrier battle groups, put some aircraft carriers and
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some support. You never know. Hold it. I tell my word to Levin is, hey, you never know what's
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going to happen. You do a you do a full and, you know, do a full naval blockade on their oil.
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You never know where that's going to play out. Yeah. Right. We have. Look, the mold is OK.
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I 100 percent agree with Mark and the other guys. You know, we have Rabbi Wellecki on here.
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So many of the guys who are close to Israel that you can't have a verification program.
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Part of the what Wyckoff and those guys are talking about, because these moolahs are crazy.
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They're also totally dishonest. And their policy is against the United States. You have to have a
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program, I think, to take it apart brick by brick. But President Trump gets briefed on this every day.
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He's got a guy that's so close to him in Wyckoff leading the negotiations. Right. Overall,
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I think you got to let him play his handout. And he's also been adamant. This is not something
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he is kind of playing hide the football. He's up front. I want other alternatives and diplomatic
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and economic solutions to take care of the situation. I do not want the kinetic war that's
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already in Gaza. That's already in Kiev. That's now in Kursk and in Russian territory,
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all the way down to the to the to the tip of the Arabian Peninsula with the Houthis in the Red Sea
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in Kashmir. That whole arc of instability. You light a match, that whole thing can go up.
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And you got guys with nuclear weapons all over the place there. This thing could get as ugly as you
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possibly can. And Trump is trying to be the peacemaker. You got to let him play his hand and have
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BB saying, hey, we're going to go it alone. You can't go it alone. We know that. We're your
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biggest sponsor. It's not really going alone. The American people will flip on you. You can see
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the wink when he said, we're going to go it alone. Like, we know what Israel going alone is,
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is us supporting him, just not officially supporting him.
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This is my point. I think American public opinion. I mean, Charlie Kirk just put a poll up
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with a couple hundred thousand people on it. And Charlie's a defender of Israel. I think he put a poll
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up about Israel going alone. What would happen? I think 27% of the respondents saying we would
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continue to have the support, monetary support. Another, I think, 15% said support, but no money.
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And then, I don't know, what's the delta? 67% or 57, 60%, 65% said cut off everything.
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No, look, we are. We're weary. We're done supporting for it. I just, I mean, you know,
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clandestine operations. You know how this, this stuff works. We have to tell everyone who we're
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supporting everywhere, I guess. Well, hold it, but hold it, hold it, hold it. But hang on,
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hang on. But you're talking about something totally different there. I'm talking about a military
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invasion, either backed by the United States with our support and or Israel does alone, or an air raid,
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air bombing campaign, which they said, hey, they're on their, they're on their back foot. Now
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that versus economic warfare, paramilitary, espionage, like was it Stutniks, all those types
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of things, that's a different, that's a different deal. But I think a direct military involvement,
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the nation is tired. The nation has spent 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and, you know,
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$9 trillion, what, 10,000 KIAs, 50,000 wounded. It's just not going to do it. There's just no support
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of that. In fact, there's, there's anti-support in the, in the polling on Israel. And I know from
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our audience, which are MAGA and, and, and used to be huge supporters of Israel, that support's
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dramatically dropped. You just got to take that into the calculation. And I think President Trump
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isn't. President Trump is not quiet about this. He's adamant about this. Bibi had two shots in the
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Oval Office. He came with the first time if Trump wanted to talk, Bibi wanted to talk air assault into,
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into Persia. Trump wanted to talk about Trump Gaza, right? We're, we're making it a beachfront
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property. And you remember, drop that bomb on Bibi. Bibi's sitting there with the big eyes and he
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goes in the East Room and Trump's holding a, holding a press conference about the new condos.
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And then the second time Bibi came over, remember four weeks later to talk about the tariffs. That
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was also to talk about the bombing. President Trump dropped, dropped the bomb on him in the room that,
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hey, we're directly negotiating. We, the United States of America are directly negotiating with the
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Persians and we're doing it in Oman and we're going to shift and do it in the Vatican.
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That, you got to read the room. The president of the United States, Israel's never had a bigger
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defender of Israel than Donald John Trump. They just haven't. And he's pretty adamant about this.
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And I think they ought to take some things and say, hey, look, you know, we're all in for you.
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We'll take your guidance on this. And now you're not seeing it. I would argue that Mike Waltz is not
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the national security, not the head of, not NSA, not the national security advisor about this very
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topic, brother. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with Maga. I agree with you. I just,
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I know there's no way to trust whoever we're dealing with, whoever the persons we're dealing with,
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whoever we're negotiating with in the Middle East, that none of them can be trusted, including
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the Iranians. And at some point it worked in the 80s, Israel took care of business and it bought
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them 40 more years of no nuclear proliferation out of Iran. Your show. Sorry. Hang on. I'm going to
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get, I'm going to get the rumor. Hang on. I'm going to get the rumor mill going here because we know a
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lot of liberal journalists and producers on MSNBC watch the show. You know, Howard Lutnick, I don't
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know if Howard over commerce is here in the footsteps, but you never know. It could be Eric Bolling,
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new secretary of commerce, Eric Bolling, that tip to you, sir.
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I have the coveted, I got the coveted seat. I can't give up the coveted, I got the coveted
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four o'clock. I got the coveted four o'clock. Where's Rob Sieg? I got to look at this deal,
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right? I got the coveted, I got the coveted four o'clock pre, pre-war room lead up, right?
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That's it. I got the coveted five minutes with Bannon every 455, every 455. That's it.
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That's it. I don't want to give that up. Thank you, brother. Always great talking with you.
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See you tomorrow. Thank you, sir. Eric Bolling. True story. Call him up and said,
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F the five, get over here. And he got over there. We're right tonight talking about being
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secretary of commerce. And he turned us down. Little known story. Let's go. We got Josh Hammer,
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a lot going on today. Let's go. We got a cold open. Maybe I'll actually ask Josh about the,
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the entire situation in the Middle East, but he's here to give us some legal opinions,
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The U S appeals court has reinstated Donald Trump's tariffs during the appeals process. So
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the international court of trade, which is a federal court, by the way, said, no,
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you don't have the authority to do this, wiping out a lot of those tariffs. Well,
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now Donald Trump appealed it. And the appeals court says, yes, you do have that authority,
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at least for now. And this is exactly what the white house wanted, what they said this morning,
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they were going to do. They were going to go to this DC appeals court and they would say,
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look, we want you to stay the international trade court decision for now while this moves
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forward. And the white house had said they would appeal directly to the Supreme court if they
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didn't hear from the appeals court. Now they have heard from a DC appeals court, pausing any tariffs,
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any tariff changes while the case is litigated. What I think is interesting is you've got another
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deadline here, July 9th. That's when those original, I put it in air quotes, were reciprocal
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tariffs. When the president stood there in the Rose Garden with that big chart with all those
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numbers that he was going to charge people, then he paused some of those and then some went back
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on. But July 9th is when there's supposed to be some clarity that those reciprocal tariffs,
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that's what the international trade court said he did not have the authority to impose.
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Now this DC appeals court saying, okay, we're going to pause that international trade court
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decision until this litigate goes through the appeals process. So we're back to where we were
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a day and a half ago. And this is part and parcel, Katie, of the frustration for businesses and
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importers because it just means there still is indecision overall about what happens next and what
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rates tariffs will be for these different countries in the days and weeks ahead.
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There's so much uncertainty in how the tariffs will be rolled out. I mean, even as I was coming up the
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elevator to this studio, the news broke that the court's decision last night had been halted today
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and the tariffs would remain in effect. So I don't know, or that he did, you know, as the case moved
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forward, the lower court's position would not stand. So I think that there's an enormous amount
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of uncertainty in the economy. And the two choices that Robert laid out, I think it's worth looking at
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what qualifies as a victory these days. So, you know, let's say that the Trump's, uh, that Trump's
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orders are halted, that he's not able to enact the tariffs as he would like. That would be because
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courts had stopped him. And then you have the likes of Stephen Miller saying, this is a judicial
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coup. I mean, the idea that that would be a victory is pretty striking that you don't accept
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the balance of powers as written in the constitution, but you brand it as a coup. And then what further
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action does that kind of rhetoric enable? So I think we're dealing with, you know, enormous amounts
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of uncertainty still in the economy, uh, real questions about how this policy might play out
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in practice. But then we have come to learn over the course of Trump's, uh, two terms now that rhetoric
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matters, you know, so I don't really see this as, you know, a real victory here. They're two bad options.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. Here's the time I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Thursday, 29 May. Year of our Lord, 2025. Josh Amber, the great Josh Amber. So Josh,
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I got a lot of things to talk to you about. We got three minutes in this block.
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Make this make sense. What's going on, sir? Well, the International Court of Trade
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dramatically oversteps, Steve, and the, the U.S. Federal Circuit has put a pause on it. It's just
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a procedural pause. They're going to let both sides file, file their legal arguments, let it play out
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here. We're dealing here with a 1977 Jimmy Carter era statute known as the International Emergency
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or Economic Emergency Powers Act. Now, the real question in this, in this litigation, again,
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what happened today is all just procedural stuff. The federal circuit basically saying, okay, you guys
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overstepped there. The actual question is really more one of who decides because the relevant
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underlying statute says that when there is a foreign economic commercial emergency, then the
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president of the United States can do XYZ things. So the question, Steve, really is, do the political
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branches get to decide what is an economic emergency or do these unelected judges in the judiciary get
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to decide what is an emergency? And when you're dealing- They made a case on fentanyl. The thing's
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100 pages long. They just, correct me if I'm wrong, and we'll go to break on this, but they dismissed
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the whole fentanyl and, you know, Canada, Mexico, the CCP, the million people destroyed by fentanyl,
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the whole issue. Didn't this three-judge panel kind of dismiss this and get into the meat of
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kind of trade and didn't even take the emergency of what President Trump said is the emergency that
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drew this out? They kind of dismissed that, didn't they? Yeah. So they're focusing mostly,
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if I understand it correctly, on the so-called reciprocal tariffs. Now, there's three trade
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statutes. It's actually very confusing. So there's the Trade Expansion Act of 1962. There's the Trade
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Act of 1974, tail end of Nixon, beginning of the Ford administration. And then there's the one that was in
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question from the International Trade Court, which is the IEEPA, the Jimmy Carter era statute. Now,
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the Trade Court did not touch the 1962 or the 1974 statute. So for instance, a lot of the tariffs,
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when it comes to steel, aluminum, automobiles, none of that was touched here. If I understand
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correctly, the focus of this court was primarily on the reciprocal tariffs, but the Federal Circuit is
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basically saying, you know, put a pause button on this. Steve, the real issue is when you have
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this rollout that judges get to just put a stop to there. I mean, markets, investors,
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traders, anyone involved in commerce, you need some sort of stability here. So when you have this
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kind of litigation, it's kind of willy-nilly, the judge does this, the appellate court does that
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there. That is not the way to achieve success. But ultimately, I think these people don't really
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care about success. What they fundamentally care about is just getting Donald Trump.
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Josh, hang on for a second. The great Josh Hammer joins us. Also, some questions. He's got a
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So, Hammer, are we in—we talked about this coming constitutional crisis. We're in it right now,
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are we not? Yeah, Steve, we are knee-deep in a constitutional crisis, and we're knee-deep
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in a constitutional crisis not because Donald Trump is a dictator, fascist, Nazi, Stalin,
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whenever they want to call him. No. I mean, we are in a constitutional crisis right now because
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Donald Trump is facing an unprecedented judicial insurrection, the likes of which no president
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in this country has faced since wartime President Abraham Lincoln himself, dealing with Roger
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Taney and chattel slavery and a genuine, literal insurrection, the likes of which we have never
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seen before. And there's ultimately only one way that this is going to end. This is kind of the
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craziest point to me, Steve. The craziest point to me is that the judiciary, including the International
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Court of Trade earlier today, which, by the way, that's a partisan court, by the way. This is
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actually one of those Article I congressionally created courts deep in the bowels of the executive
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branch. It has partisan designations. You have to have certain Republican nominees, Democrat nominees.
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You know, so the media was reporting that, oh, a Trump appointee to the International Court of
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Trade was the one who struck down these tariffs. But yeah, it was technically a Trump nominee from the
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first term, but he was literally a Democrat because it is statutorily required that you have a certain
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partisan Republican-Democrat mix on that court. So the media just disingenuous and dishonest,
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as always. But we're in this crisis, and the judiciary, more generally speaking, whether it's
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these executive branch courts like the trade court or the bread and butter of the Article III federal
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courts, they have to know they're not going to win. They are not going to win this because they still
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are literally, as Hamilton told us in Federal 78, they literally are the least dangerous branch.
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And they have neither force nor will, but merely judgment. They literally depend, as Hamilton again said,
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on the efficacy of the executive branch, even for the enforcement of their own judgments.
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They do not have the tools in their checks and balances and their separation of powers in their
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toolkit to win this in the long term. The only question is, how long is it going to take for
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them to learn the message? And how much can Congress and President Trump, how much can the other two
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branches turn the screws to deliver the message there? So I've been all in, you know, me, Mike Davis,
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all of us at Article III Project, we've been all in trying to get all tools on the table, whether it's
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judicial impeachment of bozos like Judge Boasberg in D.C., whether it's trying to jurisdiction strip
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legislation, whether it's trying to potentially abolish entire judgeships. There is a lot. There's
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a lot that Congress and the president can do to get the judiciary to understand the message there.
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But this judicial insurrection, Steve, has to stop because we are absolutely in a constitutional
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crisis and is a crisis entirely of Article III's own making.
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Okay. But there's zero. Would you not agree with me? There's zero appetite. I mean, Mike Davis,
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you guys laid out a quite brilliant menu of what should be of what should happen at over at the
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House to kick things off impeachment hearings, even investigations, calling guys in to be questioned
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publicly, cutting off $2 billion of the 10 they get to send a signal that they're not going to get
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fully funded, cut out some some jurisdictions. There was zero appetite by the heroes up in the
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House to even address any of that. Was it not, sir? I totally agree with you. There's there should be
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more appetite. I mean, look, you have some some congressmen like like Brandon Gill, the first term
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congressmen from Texas who's kind of been the tip of the spear when it comes to judicial impeachment
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efforts there. When it comes to some of the some of the bolder stuff, when it comes to trying to strip
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jurisdiction there, there's really not a whole lot of appetite there. Frankly, I would hope for a lot
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more from from Chairman Jim Jordan on the House Judiciary Committee and folks like that. Look, you
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definitely have some folks here. I mean, Chip Roy is knows it knows a thing or two about the law. I
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think I think Congressman Roy would be very well positively inclined towards a lot of what we at
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Article III Project are preaching there. But you're totally right, Steve. I mean, you know, when we say
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these things, there are only a smaller handful of congressmen, you know, Andy Biggs. I mean,
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to be clear, there definitely are some people who get it there. But but but it's pretty much slim
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pickings. And I think I think the reason that it's slim pickings is because even in many Republican
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capital Republican Party circles, this broader myth of the of judicial supremacy that that the judiciary
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can do no wrong and that no matter what they say, even if it's a bare five to four decision of the
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Supreme Court there, it is automatically the law of the land. And this is just this. It's a mind
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virus. It's a total mind disease. The same way that so-called separation of church and state is
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a lie. But people think that it's there because it's been repeated ad infinitum for decades and
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decades. So, too, do people think that the judiciary has the final binding say on all things legal,
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constitutional or statutory or otherwise, because it's just been it's just been repeated by everyone
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for decades and decades. And when you just tell a lie, Steve, for long enough and long enough and
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long enough, eventually it just seeps into the broader body politic.
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So you're you're particularly twisted because that's one of the toughest law schools in the
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country. But you guys at Chicago, they have an angle of attack the way that you're taught the law,
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You Chicago is probably known best for developing the law and economics curriculum. That was kind of
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big thing back in the 1960s. That's actually kind of why I went there in the first place. I studied
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economics in college, briefly worked in economic consulting in Washington, D.C. for two years
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between college and law school. So, you know, this was 12 years ago now. But when I first decided to
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go to University of Chicago for law school, it was largely because of that law and economics background.
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You know, back back in the day, Steve, back during the Reagan era, University of Chicago Law School
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was was a firmly right of center law school. And that continued really into the 1990s, arguably even into the
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early 2000s. Unfortunately, my alma mater has has taken a leftward turn, but it's probably still
00:22:14.440
better than most of its other peer institutions overall.
00:22:17.520
But it has a it has a frame of reference. I have shifted left.
00:22:21.600
Isn't correct me if I'm wrong, but President Trump and part of its anti-Semitism, but it's deeper than
00:22:28.500
that. It's it gets to your book. It's anti the Judeo-Christian West. It's anti-Western
00:22:33.880
civilization. The his confrontation with Harvard and the confrontation with the big law firms
00:22:42.460
and the confrontation on judicial supremacy. Isn't that one thing? Right. It's it's connected.
00:22:50.600
Harvard and these places are the breeding ground of it. The law firms is where it gets exacerbated
00:22:56.000
and they get promoted and then they get into the into these neo-Marxist get into the judiciary.
00:23:01.220
And this is why we have the problem. And so the assault on those or the I should say the
00:23:06.340
confrontation of those is actually a fundamental fight about the direction of this country and
00:23:12.560
who actually controls this country, sir. Yeah. So Harvard is the tip of the spear,
00:23:18.940
literally, actually, because, I mean, let's think about the affirmative action litigation that
00:23:22.920
reached the Supreme Court just two years ago in 2023. That case was students for fair emissions
00:23:26.980
versus Harvard College. I mean, Harvard was Harvard lost that case, Steve, that, you know,
00:23:31.160
they have not exactly responded in kind. But when President Trump signed probably his single most
00:23:37.200
dynamic and paradigm shifting executive order of his entire presidency so far, and he signed a lot,
00:23:42.420
to be clear. But in my opinion, it was that DEI executive order on January 20th that that,
00:23:49.220
among other things, interpreted the affirmative action case, the students for fair emissions case
00:23:53.140
of 2023. It interpreted that as banning DEI in general and any thumb on the scale that would
00:23:59.680
discriminate against white people, Asian people, Christians, Jews, Mormons, essentially against
00:24:04.480
anyone in this neo-Marxist dichotomy, as you say, between oppressors and oppressed. And to tie it into
00:24:10.660
my book, Israel and Civilization, yes, this is part of the broader assault on the West for numerous
00:24:15.940
reasons. But I argue in the book, Steve, that the singular underlying ethical underpinning of all that we call
00:24:23.040
Western civilization of the entire biblical worldview, the entire biblical inheritance,
00:24:27.760
if I had to really pinpoint one verse, one verse from the entire Bible that really undergirds all
00:24:32.900
this, in my humble opinion, it would be Genesis 127. You know, so in Latin, that would be Imago Dei.
00:24:41.520
This is the imperative that God made man in his own image, male and female, he created them.
00:24:46.720
This is the undergird for all of Western civilization. You know, when John Locke
00:24:50.480
wrote in his second treatise in 17th century England, about about natural rights to life,
00:24:56.040
liberty and property, when Jefferson kind of borrowed that Lockean language writing the
00:24:59.460
declaration in 1776 there, they weren't writing these things in a vacuum. They were talking about
00:25:04.460
the inalienable equal dignity and human worth of human beings there, because they were writing in
00:25:09.600
a certain contextual milieu there. And that is Genesis 127. That is the Bible, the Judeo-Christian
00:25:15.000
tradition, more broadly speaking, there. When you abandon that, when you abandon Genesis,
00:25:19.580
when you abandon the Bible, more broadly speaking, you're going to really dangerous territory. And
00:25:23.100
among the things that you're going to go to is affirmative action, DEI, all the various things
00:25:28.200
that reject Imago Dei, that reject Genesis 127, are going to put an overt thumb on the scale
00:25:33.640
in favor of bolstering certain ethnicities, nationalities, religions, then punishing
00:25:38.480
certain ethnicities, nationalities, religions. That is ultimately, Steve, how the West goes to die.
00:25:45.480
And talk to me, we got a minute or two, I want to hold you through the break,
00:25:48.300
because I want to get into this Persian situation. How does that, talk to me, how does that play out
00:25:55.240
now, this about the defense of Western civilization? How's it playing out
00:25:59.960
in what's happening at Harvard, the big law firms, and this judicial insurrection?
00:26:06.800
Well, the big law firms have increasingly become just a total cancer on the body politic. I mean,
00:26:11.240
these people have been at war with anything remotely resembling Americanism or Westernism for decades.
00:26:18.080
I mean, I remember Jenner and Block, which is one of the many big law firms that Donald Trump has
00:26:22.200
appropriately gone after. I remember Jenner and Block back during the Bush administration,
00:26:26.720
this is back when I was in high school. I mean, they became infamous nationwide,
00:26:29.960
for defending al-Qaeda terrorists at Gitmo and doing it on a pro bono basis. I mean,
00:26:34.840
you know, this is subversive behavior. I mean, this is domestic fifth column behavior there.
00:26:39.640
These are not people that are ultimately out to serve the common good. They are ultimately out
00:26:43.180
to tear down. And I think fundamentally, that is what is happening there. And Donald Trump,
00:26:47.180
as in many other instances, I think is fundamentally seeking to uphold the Americanist and Western
00:26:53.180
Can you hang on for a second, Josh? I just want to hold you through the break.
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Josh, first of all, a couple of people in the engine room and asked,
00:29:26.800
why are you not in the White House or why are you not volunteering to be special counsel
00:29:29.760
that President Trump needs to prosecute the deep state?
00:29:32.420
I know your work at Article 3 is important in your columns and all that,
00:29:38.900
I've never been asked that point blank, Steve, to be honest with you. I mean, I live in Florida.
00:29:45.960
I don't even live in Washington, D.C. You know, look, I'm always happy to take a phone call if
00:29:51.460
someone wants to, you know, inquire. You know, without revealing too many details, I did have
00:29:56.340
some informal conversations during the transition period there. But, you know, Steve, on a personal
00:30:01.380
level, we just had our first baby, our first daughter in December. My in-laws live here. So
00:30:06.020
living in Florida is kind of best for not just professional but also just very personal reasons
00:30:10.660
right now. So I don't necessarily see it happening, but I'm always happy to answer the phone if someone
00:30:13.880
wants to call. You've written this incredible book about Israel and the civilization, Israel in the
00:30:21.640
West. A guy I know you know well, a guy I admire, one of the smartest guys about the Constitution,
00:30:27.660
the single smartest guy named Mark Levin. There's a big, you know, I guess, disagreement,
00:30:34.840
you can say Kristi Noem goes over to deliver the message to Netanyahu once again. President Trump's
00:30:39.560
got Witkoff. They got a plan. They're going to go down and negotiate. It's either verification
00:30:44.680
or it's a dismantling. We don't know the details of it yet, but there's no support whatsoever of
00:30:51.240
American involvement, but not even support of Israel doing it on its own. This is getting to be
00:30:55.800
a bigger and bigger firestorm. The other day, we had Rabbi Walicki given one side
00:31:01.000
a couple of days ago. Then we had Kurt Mills over the American conservative given the other side.
00:31:06.280
I mean, is Netanyahu's just the inability to read the room? Because you know President Trump as well
00:31:12.520
as anybody on this issue. We haven't had a more pro-Israel president ever than President Trump.
00:31:17.960
He's got Huckabee over there as his ambassador, but he's got a very set way he's looking to do this,
00:31:24.280
particularly in the overall arc from Kursk to Kiev to the whole arc of instability. The last thing he
00:31:33.000
wants is more gunfire, bombing, or kinetic activity. Your thoughts, sir?
00:31:41.400
Well, there's lots to unpack here, of course. I watched your entire exchange, Steve, with Rabbi
00:31:45.480
Walicki. Rabbi Walicki is also a friend of mine. I watched the entire exchange. I thought it was great.
00:31:50.360
I thought you guys both made very good points. You mentioned Mark Levin. Mark's a friend as well.
00:31:55.080
I'm friends with both of you guys there. Look, this is a tough issue. This is a tough issue,
00:31:59.080
partially because it's been around for a long time. We've been hearing about Iran's nuclear
00:32:03.240
program for probably 25, 30 years now, arguably even further than that. There have been some people
00:32:09.560
who have been calling for direct military action, people like John Bolton in that category,
00:32:13.880
for probably close to 15 years or so. Who am I to say that now is really the time?
00:32:19.880
I mean, I simply don't get the president's daily briefing. I don't get the intelligence
00:32:23.640
that the US, Israel, or any other countries does. I have no idea, frankly, just how close Iran is
00:32:29.080
to actually getting enough enriched uranium to be able to put it on a warhead. So that's not really
00:32:34.600
my position, frankly, to be able to judge here. Here are a few things I will say. One, Steve,
00:32:39.560
that I will say is I have never once ever in my entire adult life called for direct US military
00:32:44.920
action on Iran. Never. I have never said that. It's not my book. It's not my stance. I've never once
00:32:48.600
said it. My stance was actually essentially what Donald Trump did the first time around.
00:32:53.000
I thought that the so-called maximum pressure campaign was actually working quite well on
00:32:56.600
the mullahs, bringing them to essentially close to the brink of bankruptcy. You definitely could
00:33:01.480
begin by re-upping sanctions on their oil and natural gas exports. I heard you and Eric Bolling
00:33:06.360
talking about that a little bit at the beginning of the show when it comes to the Chinese Communist
00:33:09.400
Party. That's the number one importer of Iranian oil there. When it comes to the ongoing diplomacy
00:33:15.240
between the Steve Whitcoff-led American team and the Iranians, look, like literally any
00:33:20.680
other American, any other America first MAGA patriot, I strongly prefer diplomacy to anything
00:33:26.040
else. But again, to go back to what Eric was saying, and I think that you would agree with this,
00:33:30.600
Steve, you're dealing here with the most deceitful people on the face of the earth.
00:33:33.720
I mean, the mullahs have been lying to the United States, to everyone, like literally everyone for
00:33:39.080
25, 30 years. They go to extraordinary lengths to hide the progress of their nuclear program.
00:33:45.000
And let's recall that while Iran is an existential threat to Israel, it's not quite an existential
00:33:50.120
threat to America. It's definitely a threat to America. This regime has had American blood on its
00:33:53.720
hands going back at least as far as the event that formed the regime, the Jimmy Carter era hostage
00:33:59.960
crisis. They chant death to America in their Potemkin legislature every single day. So you
00:34:04.920
don't want these guys to get a nuke. Now, if it can be done via diplomacy, I'm all in for that. I am
00:34:11.400
skeptical simply because of who we are dealing with. I'm not skeptical of President Trump's
00:34:15.320
intentions at all. I am simply skeptical of the nature of the counterparty. But I mean,
00:34:20.680
let's see what happens. I mean, it's still ongoing right now. And my stance at this exact time is,
00:34:26.360
you know, let Donald Trump chew. I mean, I mean, let him burn. Let's see what happens.
00:34:31.720
But you bring up something and I don't hear that at the forefront today. This is why I keep banging
00:34:35.960
the table. Go back to the maximum pressure campaign. This is what President Trump and a
00:34:41.160
team. And I was part of that came up the first time because as a young naval officer, I was there
00:34:44.920
at the beginning in the workup to the hostage crisis. Right. When our when our battle, you know,
00:34:50.840
our destroyer squadron got called over there when the when the hostages were taken. And it was all
00:34:56.040
new territory. I mean, the United States had no assets. This is why giving up Diego Garcia,
00:35:00.520
like the British did, is such a such a body blow. But the maximum pressure campaign
00:35:06.920
was bringing the mullahs to its knees and causing amazing dissension inside of Persia,
00:35:12.120
where the Persian people said we've had enough of this. Why are we not? Do you agree right now we're
00:35:17.640
nowhere close to a maximum pressure campaign on economic and diplomatic pressure, sir?
00:35:22.120
I do agree with that. And I would like to see that dramatically escalate. Now,
00:35:26.680
Biden took a lot of sanctions off of Iran. As we know, he funded the mullahs. There was that absurd
00:35:32.200
exchange of five American hostages for six billion dollars, literally one point two billion dollars
00:35:37.160
of hostage. That was in September 2023, just a few weeks prior to the October 7th pogrom in Israel.
00:35:42.920
So Joe Biden undid a lot of the Donald Trump first term era maximum pressure campaign.
00:35:48.440
Trump has has put some new sanctions on to Iranian weapons manufacturers, arms dealers,
00:35:54.200
things like that there. But there is a lot left to do. There was a lot of meat left on that bone,
00:35:59.480
so to speak. The easiest way to make this regime hurt is energy. This is this is essentially
00:36:06.120
a petroleum led country. They don't really have a whole lot of advanced industries, advanced technologies,
00:36:11.880
really anything there. This is, you know, this is not even the UAE or Bahrain. I mean,
00:36:15.960
another country in that part of the world that is still primarily oil and natural gas driven there,
00:36:19.800
but also has banking, financial services there. No, Iran is really to this day a country whose
00:36:24.120
economy is very, very largely dependent on oil and natural gas there. And it seems to me like kind
00:36:29.880
of a very low hanging fruit proposition. You can kind of get a two for the price of one
00:36:33.880
if you just sanction the utter crap out of their oil and natural gas exports there. Again,
00:36:37.960
China is the number one importer there. I would very much like to see that happen right now.
00:36:42.200
Here's what I will say. I don't know exactly how you how you do that simultaneously with the
00:36:47.400
ongoing negotiations there. At least at least it depends how you are projecting yourself in
00:36:52.200
the negotiations. Right. I mean, so those two things don't necessarily go together so easily
00:36:57.160
there. It's probably achievable. But I share your point, Steve. I mean, to me,
00:37:01.400
this is really not kind of an A or B proposition there. It's not like we do nothing or we do like
00:37:07.400
a Barack Obama, JCPOA, give them a nuke. Or on the other hand, you know, you do regime change.
00:37:12.040
I mean, it's not an A or B proposition there. There was a very, very, very large,
00:37:16.440
sweet spot somewhere in the middle. It seemed to me like the first Trump term
00:37:19.320
Aramaxian pressure campaign really kind of hit that sweet spot.
00:37:21.480
Josh, where do people get your writings? Where can they get the book?
00:37:27.160
So the book is Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation, The Destiny of the West.
00:37:31.000
It's available at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, wherever you get your books. I'm on xjosh
00:37:35.480
underscore hammer. Instagram is joshbhammer. And then my show, The Josh Hammer Show,
00:37:39.240
is available everywhere podcasts are available. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you taking the time today.
00:37:47.080
The convergence of these crises is going to be, because remember, it's 10 years ago on June 15th
00:37:55.640
that President Trump came down the golden escalator. People remember at CPAC that took place just 100
00:38:04.280
days before. I'm talking about the CPAC in 2015. Donald Trump, I think, came in seventh at just over
00:38:12.040
three percent. I think he had three and a half percent. And this is how he had been. It was right
00:38:19.080
before Super Tuesday. That's in 2015. Right. Not Super Tuesday. Super Tuesday is later. But it was
00:38:25.240
he is already out. He had been in Iowa. He'd been in New Hampshire. They'd had that been in South Carolina,
00:38:31.160
had that huge event in that they brought all the candidates together at the Sherman Theater in in
00:38:36.920
Iowa. President Trump was out and about finished, I think, seventh at three and a half percent. He
00:38:41.720
finished on the when he's at the top of the escalator. I think he's in seventh place on
00:38:49.960
general polling after he goes to the escalator and actually addresses the American people.
00:38:55.320
And people realize MAGA and so many of the think at Breitbart, we had five or six people there
00:39:01.000
that covered wall to wall that night. He went to number one and except for Dr. Ben Carson coming
00:39:08.680
close and kind of a tie in a poll that took place a couple of months later, President Trump was always
00:39:14.520
in first place. Why? He addressed the American people in a nomenclature and with ideas that they
00:39:22.760
talked amongst themselves or thought, but nobody had the political courage ever to talk about.
00:39:29.240
And guess what? It's the program that he is fighting for every single day. That was 10 years ago,
00:39:38.120
a decade. We've gone through a decade together. And those of you that were with us before,
00:39:44.040
from 14 on, it's been over a decade. But in this decade of everything that's gone on with President
00:39:49.720
Trump, everything that's gone on with the MAGA movement, and think about it for a second,
00:39:53.560
that come from behind. First off, the brutal and tough primary fight in 2015 and 2016,
00:39:59.960
that come from behind victory against Hillary Clinton, that the the massive revolt of the deep
00:40:06.120
state and a nullification project in his first term and the fight he had every day, you know, every day
00:40:12.280
there, the pandemic unleashed by the Chinese Communist Party to stop the economic flourishing that
00:40:18.440
President Trump had against all odds. The stolen election of 2020. In fact, as I said today, I was
00:40:26.440
talking to people at the New York Post, the heroic nature of the New York Post printing the laptop from
00:40:32.120
hell and everything that that involved in Joe Biden on national TV, a debate lying bald face lie in the
00:40:39.560
crushing of of the New York Post by Facebook, by Twitter at the time, by all the social media accounts.
00:40:47.960
Then the stealing of the 2020 election, the fight thereafter, President Trump then leaving to go to
00:40:53.960
Mar-a-Lago. You remember essentially the political nuclear winter of that early part of 2021 when Fox
00:40:59.480
News would never even put him up and they wouldn't cover him live because they feared he would talk
00:41:04.520
about the stolen election. The long journey back of 20 of the to the 24 primary in his victory then and then
00:41:14.680
this hand to hand combat in 2024 to win a sweeping victory across the board. This is all historic
00:41:23.400
over a decade. And you have been an activist. Some of you just recently adjoining or recently coming to the
00:41:30.520
the show. That's fine. Many of you here from the beginning, you like veterans of the American
00:41:35.080
Revolution. You understand this is a revolution. All that, everything that happened in that decade,
00:41:41.880
10 years your life is just a preamble for what's about to happen, because now we're in it, folks.
00:41:48.520
And you see the convergence of the kinetic part of the Third World War and what he's trying to do on
00:41:52.680
peace. You see what's happening on trying to stop the invasion, which he has stopped.
00:41:57.640
Didn't take a decade. Didn't take Lankford's bill. It took a man that had an idea and a plan and
00:42:03.880
executed in 60 days to stop that. Now it's to deport the invader. The fight he's getting by the globalist
00:42:11.480
elite to still run this country. Don't think we run it. We have a foothold and we have a man,
00:42:17.720
a leader that is making decisions that are Herculean. This is why I say with all his
00:42:25.080
imperfections, he's at the level of General Washington. He's at the level of Lincoln.
00:42:30.280
And you have Trump. Then you got a next lot down. You got Reagan. You got FDR.
00:42:35.640
You got Teddy Roosevelt and others, Jackson. But that top three, you have the birth of the nation.
00:42:42.280
You have the rebirth of the nation. And you have the rejuvenation and the salvation of the nation.
00:42:48.600
And now we're in it. The next couple of hundred days, as all of this converges,
00:42:53.560
an economic and financial crisis, a constitutional crisis, and a kinetic Third World War that's now
00:43:00.080
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00:43:07.240
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It's so early does make you ask the question, is he sending a message to others? Hey, listen,
00:44:52.440
if you want something, just donate to a super PAC or be really vocal about me, be really vocal
00:45:00.920
about all the good that I'm doing. Give me a reason to help you by helping me.
00:45:08.040
I think that's absolutely right. And it's so funny because you don't really hear him talking about
00:45:13.480
draining the swamp too much anymore because he has fully embraced the swamp down in Washington.
00:45:20.280
It's also quite funny that he tries to present himself as somebody who's interested in serious
00:45:26.440
criminal justice reform when, as you point out, it's mostly about flattering his buddies or trying
00:45:33.480
to get something in exchange like the tariff policy was. It's about consolidating his power and also
00:45:38.600
having all of the countries come to him to make a deal so he can be, to borrow from George W. Bush,
00:45:44.200
the decider in these instances. But the Trump administration is a mass incarceration administration,
00:45:51.560
and that should not go unsaid when he's trying to position himself as anything but that. Pam Bondi is a
00:45:58.200
former lobbyist for a private prison company. Tom Holman, his border czar, is also heavily involved
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in private prisons financially. And so this is not an administration that actually wants
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to take on criminal justice reform. They are warehousing immigrants as we speak without due
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process. As you. Hang on, hang on, hang on. This is the bald-faced lies they tell. And this is why
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they're losing. She's a bald-faced liar. Nobody has done more on prison reform and work with prisoners
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and is more anti-mass incarceration. The Democratic Party, and I say if somebody's in prison and you
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talk to the black and Hispanic prisoners in there, they'll tell you. On August, on September 26th,
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and Grace, we should put this up because you were involved in this, in prison, I put the only statement
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I think I ever put out in prison about the coming victory over Kamala Harris. You know where I got that
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from? The prisoners. Because Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party and that young lady right there,
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they represent mass incarcerations. What he's doing with illegal aliens is not mass incarceration.
00:47:08.600
That's deportation of people that have no depressors rights and are going to get the hell out of this
00:47:13.240
country. President Trump, the first step act, asked the prisoners, ma'am, have you interviewed the
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prisoners? His first step act is the boldest move ever against mass incarceration. Remember,
00:47:28.280
the Democratic Party and particularly the progressive part of the Democratic Party have been for mass
00:47:32.760
incarceration. So you know who knows that? The families of prisoners. What President Trump is for
00:47:38.600
is mass deportation of illegal aliens and they're going to get mass deported. It's for you to sit there
00:47:45.480
and Katie Turner, now for you to correct that bald-faced lie. And that was a bald-faced lie.
00:47:50.520
And Katie Turner, you know better. This is how corrupt MSNBC is. This is why they're kind of,
00:47:56.440
no offense, becoming more and more irrelevant. This is why African-American men are voting for
00:48:02.120
President Trump in the MAGA movement in record numbers. This is why the Hispanic community is
00:48:06.280
coming to President Trump in the MAGA movement in record numbers. This is why Star County, Texas,
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where we lost by 60 points to Hillary Clinton in 2016. President Trump won by 16 points in 2024.
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A county that's hardscrabbled with working class Hispanics right there on the border.
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That's 97% Hispanic, 97% Hispanic. No, President Trump is 100% against mass incarcerations.
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What he is for is the first step act to try to cut these ridiculously long prison sentences they get
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from woke federal judges. So don't sit there and tell me he's for that. That is a bald-faced lie.
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And you, ma'am, are a bald-faced liar. If you don't believe me, go to a federal prison and talk to the
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inmates. Mike Lindell joins us. Mike Lindell, you're going up against this system in what they call
00:49:04.440
the trial of the century. Is it really the trial of the century, Mike Lindell? Do you got a shot
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of winning? Are you going to get smoked in court in Colorado, sir?
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Mike Lindell, Jr.: We are going to win, Steve. And it's all come down to this. We're the only ones that
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have went all the way to jury trial now. And remember, they went after my pillow. My pillow is
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being sued. We're the only company that's being sued. This is about right to free speech and
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everything else. This is going to be the gateway to secure our elections. I really believe that. And
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it's one of the most important cases in history. We're going to look back on it
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even a year or two from now and go, wow, if that wouldn't have happened in Colorado
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on June 2nd of 2025 with Mike Lindell, my pillow, we wouldn't get to where we're going to get to
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because we've got to secure our elections before these midterms. These midterms are the most important
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midterms in history. You see it in all the attacks right now, then the lies coming out. Steve, I spent
00:50:04.520
time in the prisons around Texas and giving them pillows and everything and doing speeches
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there with my recovery network. And you're spot on. All of them. All of them are, you know,
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that's the Democrats and stuff that have put the prisoners in there. And with that, no, back in the
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90s, even, I mean, back then when they did, you know, they had all the, I was a crack cocaine user.
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So I know all of the people that went in for 10 years and stuff for that. And so maybe, you know,
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there's lies, lies, lies, but they've weaponized the system against us. The FBI came at me.
00:50:43.080
They still have my phone. For four and a half years now, we've been fighting them. They've
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been attacking me every single day. And Donald Trump's in power. Why are they still attacking?
00:50:52.760
Because they don't want to secure our election. They want to have a free for all. They don't
00:50:57.640
want to have paper ballots hand counted. And we are going to win. Take that to the bank.
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Looking forward to it. We're going to do live coverage of the press conference in the start
00:51:07.000
of the trial on Monday, live from Colorado with the great Colorado team of Real America's Voice.
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