Bannon's War Room - Episode 4525： Trump Victory In Immigration Courts; Speech Pregame

00:00:00.000 But that was a part of him kind of presenting his product for President Trump.

00:00:05.600 And they had a fun moment in the car and talked about the innovation of Tesla and all of that.

00:00:12.840 So that was one of my personal moments with Elon Musk.

00:00:17.100 But I got to tell you, Mike, that moment today in the Oval Office kind of firing back at

00:00:22.880 the reporter talking about the New York Times.

00:00:25.480 And that was kind of a fun moment, even though I wasn't there.

00:00:27.920 I enjoyed watching it.

00:00:29.860 You know, I think it's a whole new energy, OK?

00:00:32.880 It's a whole new energy in the golden age of America.

00:00:36.180 All right.

00:00:36.480 We're going to toss it over to Natalie Winters, who's going to pick up anchoring the coverage 1.00

00:00:41.760 here as President Trump is getting set to take the stage any minute down in western Pennsylvania.

00:00:49.280 Golden Age tour, American Steel victory lap.

00:00:52.900 Natalie, over to you.

00:00:56.180 Thank you so much, Mike and Brian and Ben.

00:00:58.900 What, an all-star panel?

00:01:00.760 I think Ben Burkwam is going to remain with us throughout probably the pregame, the speech,

00:01:05.880 and hopefully he'll give us some postgame analysis.

00:01:08.860 Two today is, of course, Friday, May 30th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:01:13.580 If we want to bring the show in, let's bring the show in.

00:01:16.160 We got some guests that we will, like I said, use in our pregame up to President Trump's,

00:01:20.320 I'm sure, wonderful speech.

00:01:21.240 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:29.380 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:34.580 Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:38.840 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:40.740 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:42.180 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:01:44.860 It's going to happen.

00:01:45.900 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:01:49.540 MAGA Media.

00:01:50.440 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:56.320 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:00.080 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:06.360 War Room.

00:02:07.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:02:15.900 Welcome to the War Room.

00:02:16.640 It's Natalie Winters hosting today, Friday, May 30th, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:02:21.980 We're giving you some pre-Trump speech coverage.

00:02:25.900 He is out in Pennsylvania continuing, I think, a wonderful tour, celebrating, appreciating,

00:02:32.440 and hopefully incentivizing more Americans to get involved in steel, obviously a critical industry

00:02:37.940 that, like we were talking about before, the Chinese have really outpaced us now for decades. 0.99

00:02:43.220 There's a graph I think the studio should have if we want to put on screen just to sort of

00:02:47.220 set the stage for what will be President Trump's speech.

00:02:50.820 Before we get to Rich Stern of Heritage, who's going to give us the latest on all things, there

00:02:56.020 you go, you see that?

00:02:56.940 Absolutely wild on all things.

00:02:59.260 Tariffs, trade, the great numbers that we saw President Trump play in the Oval Office

00:03:02.900 today during his press conference with Elon Musk.

00:03:06.440 I just wanted to set the stage.

00:03:08.480 Obviously, we've seen some evolving decisions coming from the bench, the very radical bench

00:03:16.000 about all things tariffs, the constitutionality of what the Trump administration and people

00:03:21.640 like Peter Navarro have done, particularly when it comes to China.

00:03:24.840 There's been a lot of reporting coming out that the chief judge, an individual by the

00:03:30.200 name of Mark Barnett, basically bypassed a lot of the standard protocol in terms of judge

00:03:35.700 selection to set it up so that the three judges who were tasked with adjudicating all of the

00:03:41.460 cases pertaining to President Trump's tariffs had a long, long track record, a CV, a resume,

00:03:48.660 basically exclusively of anti-Trump decisions anytime they bumped up against him, which I

00:03:54.380 guess fair point is probably most judges, not just in D.C., but across this country.

00:03:59.020 But I think it's just important to make one key point.

00:04:03.340 The timing of all of this is so critical, and not just because of what is going on here in

00:04:08.220 the United States when it comes to our economic warfare with China, but more importantly with 0.96

00:04:12.440 what's going on abroad.

00:04:14.080 And I'm not just talking about what's been transpiring in the South China Sea and how

00:04:17.320 China's really been ramping up some of their alternative weapon strategies like we've been 0.84

00:04:20.860 talking about here in the war room for a while.

00:04:22.540 But right now, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, is overseas in Singapore for the annual

00:04:28.400 dialogue, the Shangri-La, where they're meeting with a dozen-plus countries a day, having their

00:04:34.100 bilateral meetings, basically all tasked with focusing on American defense in the context

00:04:40.640 of Asia, and most importantly, in the context of combating the Chinese Communist Party.

00:04:46.880 So it's quite interesting, I think, that you see these judges choosing to get involved on what

00:04:51.800 is probably the most intense form of economic warfare that we have ever waged against the

00:04:56.480 Chinese Communist Party, in essentially the same time frame, right, plus or minus a few

00:05:00.920 hours, when the Department of Defense is engaging in arguably the most critical, I would say,

00:05:07.260 juncture of waging actual war, kinetic or otherwise, against the Chinese Communist Party.

00:05:12.660 And a bunch of radical left-wing or establishment Republican judges are trying to send a signal saying

00:05:18.180 that the United States is not serious about actually taking on the threat that is the

00:05:22.800 Chinese Communist Party, right? And I think when you broaden this out, obviously, the paradigm that

00:05:27.540 we've been seeing the Alien Enemies Act, the idea of deporting illegal aliens under the idea that it was

00:05:33.040 an invasion using powers that are only, you know, I guess, leveraged by the president should it have

00:05:38.280 been viewed as an invasion. I think you can broaden that out to these tariffs, too, right? If you believe

00:05:43.580 that the PRC is at war with us, which we certainly do here in the war room, perhaps it's not kinetic

00:05:48.460 yet, right? It might just be economic warfare. Then in the same way, these tariffs are a form of,

00:05:54.040 I would say, maybe ammo, but maybe armor is a better metaphor to compare it to. So I think you're

00:05:59.060 actually seeing an escalation, not just of these judges adjudicating policy from the bench and trying

00:06:04.420 to usurp President Trump's presidential authorities. Imagine that. But they are now essentially acting as

00:06:10.440 commander-in-chief. So that's why we always say we're not hurtling towards a constitutional crisis.

00:06:15.880 We are actively in one. And of course, you're already starting to see the judges get involved

00:06:21.580 with the foreign students, particularly the Chinese visas over at Harvard saying that you can't do that.

00:06:27.600 It's, you know, who knows, racist. I'm sure that's probably somewhere in the actual textual documents

00:06:32.780 that they're going to be apoplectic. Sorry, no, we should be deporting all of these people. We should

00:06:38.640 not be educating the next generation of enemy combatants, kinetic information, economic or

00:06:45.280 otherwise. And you can suck on that, Silicon Valley and all of you tech bros who are employing, 0.96

00:06:50.860 I think 70% of all your workers are foreign born. Yeah, that doesn't sound very America first to me. 0.98

00:06:57.080 So if you're going to wear the MAGA hat, maybe, I don't know, try to aim to hire. Hey, I'll take 50.

00:07:01.920 Should be 100, but, you know. Anyways, I digress on all of that. I think we have Rich Stern,

00:07:08.400 who I'm sure probably has some thoughts on what I was talking about. Rich, I wanted to bring you on

00:07:12.420 just to sort of give us an update on all things tariffs, but also just the wonderful numbers.

00:07:18.020 I'm sure you saw President Trump played him in the Oval Office. They were first a war room cold open,

00:07:22.400 might I add. But if you can just give us your thoughts. Oh, absolutely. Look,

00:07:27.320 I think he hit the nail on the head as always. You know, and again, what Trump is doing here is

00:07:31.780 actually being the negotiator in chief that we all know. He's got this deal together. We've got

00:07:36.980 Nippon Steel bringing Japanese money to invest in America. For the first time, we're all used to

00:07:43.560 the opposite as being what's happening. And so we're looking at a deal here that you're right,

00:07:48.000 is going to expand steel manufacturing in America, expand American jobs, pay American workers better,

00:07:53.820 and return, start the down payment, if you will, on returning America to being the manufacturing hub

00:07:59.980 of the planet. And so this is just one of those many things. We got four more years left with us,

00:08:05.140 of course, right? And just walk us through, I know they have the stay until, what is it, June 9th?

00:08:13.400 But how do you think this resolves? Do you think that the tariff case will be the one that sort of

00:08:18.180 forces this constitutional crisis into the forefront? Do you think that that's where they have sort of

00:08:22.820 the best arguments on their side? Or is it more on the immigration stuff? Where do you think they

00:08:28.000 should be picking these fights? So the truth be told, and actually the Mies Center here at Heritage

00:08:34.000 already published an article earlier today, kind of breaking down all of the details of all of this.

00:08:40.420 And look, I think you're right that in some respects, we're already in the constitutional

00:08:43.580 crisis. Look, you know, we can go through the four disastrous years of Biden, where court judges and

00:08:49.460 bureaucrats were just handing out favors like candy to their friends. We're using the courts literally to 0.80

00:08:55.040 go after churches and conservatives. So I'd say, look, we've been in that crisis for a while.

00:08:59.740 To give you a few details on these cases, though, you know, look, I will tell you this. If you're

00:09:03.940 kind of reading the plain text of the letter of the law, the precedent on it, IEPA wasn't the most

00:09:09.680 robust route for the president to go down to do the tariffs. Now, what we published actually out of

00:09:15.100 Heritage is the president's probably still on very firm grounding on the fentanyl-related tariffs. So

00:09:20.820 these are the tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China. And we believe that the court probably

00:09:26.360 ruled an error on that one. But we'll see as things go forward. And I should point out, you know,

00:09:31.120 the case that was before the Court on International Trade and the court that was before the D.C.

00:09:37.240 district court are actually ruling on two completely different non-overlapping issues. The first one,

00:09:43.200 the International Trade Court, ruled on just the specific tariff emergencies. The latter one,

00:09:48.160 the district court, rules on whether IEPA, the statute the president's using, can be used for

00:09:52.860 tariffs at all. So we'll see as these cases unfold. But, you know, the last I'll say right now about it

00:09:57.480 is the president's got these three other concrete tariff authorities. Really, he should use those

00:10:03.600 to enact tariff policy, frankly, to give himself more protection against these radical judges you're

00:10:08.980 talking about. We've got a few minutes before I'm going to jump to break. I'll hold you if I can.

00:10:14.000 Obviously, the big press conference today with Elon, the, you know, farewell, that wasn't a farewell

00:10:19.660 ceremony. I'm curious your thoughts. He spoke, obviously, of the currently, what is it, $160

00:10:25.720 billion identified in waste, fraud, and abuse, which short term was projected to skyrocket,

00:10:30.860 I think, above $200 billion. And then they talked about hopefully attaining at some point in time,

00:10:36.400 unknown, a trillion dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse, kind of not blaming it, but pawning it off on

00:10:42.600 the idea that it was the courts that was holding some of this up. I'm just curious your thoughts

00:10:46.800 on these kind of speculative numbers, if you think that we could actually approach a figure like that.

00:10:52.680 I think for sure we could. Look, the government bureaucrats own numbers. And look, you and I don't

00:10:57.700 trust them at all. But even the government bureaucrats numbers from before President

00:11:01.880 Trump was elected still indicated that there's probably four, maybe even $500 billion a year

00:11:08.020 of at least fraud that goes out of the government, let alone some of these other abuses and waste and

00:11:13.340 all of that. So the math is there. The wasted dollars are there. Again, dollars stolen from

00:11:19.100 hardworking Americans and American businessmen as well. So the question is, what can we get at?

00:11:24.280 And look, I think the thing that Doge has done that's been unprecedented is they could cut some of

00:11:29.500 that money, but mostly they could shine a spotlight from inside the bulwark of the swamp on all of the

00:11:37.040 structures of all of the grift and the corruption. And that's the information that no one had.

00:11:42.460 We might have known some of these were there, but we couldn't tell you where the waste was,

00:11:46.580 where the fraud was. Doge has put a spotlight on that. Doge is going to continue the right and make

00:11:51.820 that material public to Congress. But at the end of the day, you know, the deep state's been doing

00:11:55.900 this for decades. They've twisted Congress into defending their position. At the end of the day,

00:12:01.380 we need Congress to have a backbone. It is Congress that needs to codify these things,

00:12:06.860 the Doge has uncovered, and put on the table for them. So we need to lend them a backbone

00:12:10.720 as much as possible.

00:12:13.560 I think the only people capable of giving them a backbone is this audience, as they have done

00:12:18.760 time and time again. Rich, if you can just hang with us through the break, Warren Posse.

00:12:22.340 Hang with us. We've got a packed show. Obviously, President Trump is going to be speaking,

00:12:25.440 I believe, at around 5.30. In the meantime, I think for everything we've been talking about,

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00:12:46.520 again. It's a great read. We'll be right back. Richard Stern, much more after this short break.

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00:14:42.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:14:48.900 Welcome back to The War Room. We are awaiting President Trump. I hear he is in the building,

00:14:55.100 so we're getting quite close. We're going to hit Ben Berquam just in a second. But, Rich,

00:14:59.580 before I let you go, I just have one last question, because obviously you're seeing the media's apoplexy.

00:15:06.540 Oh, Doge is dead. Oh, they're not going to be able to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. I don't

00:15:11.560 necessarily think that Doge is something novel. I think it's sort of the second iteration,

00:15:15.780 frankly, of what, you know, bananism created, right, which is the idea of deconstructing

00:15:19.960 the administrative state. Perhaps it's the kinetic warfare element of it. But I'm just curious,

00:15:26.120 your thoughts sort of, you know, comparing, contrasting the first term of President Trump

00:15:32.180 to the second term, how useful, if you think it has been, Doge was, or just sort of maybe a report

00:15:40.340 card, an overall assessment. So I think Doge, certainly, and I think like Trump coming in this

00:15:45.840 first time, and a lot of people around him, these are people that were outsiders, which is good.

00:15:50.400 They weren't swamp creatures. But, you know, the tradeoff is it means that they didn't know where

00:15:54.300 all the bodies were buried. They didn't know exactly who to trust. They didn't know exactly

00:15:58.260 what they could push on. You know, we had Biden bureaucrats who've been doing this for decades, 0.90

00:16:02.540 who in the two months leading out the door, you know, set landmines back for the troops coming in,

00:16:07.980 right, to sabotage Doge's effort. And we should hunt down those bureaucrats, frankly, and undo those

00:16:12.940 things. But, you know, that's part of what the deep state does. So, look, what I would say is,

00:16:17.360 I think Doge has got B plus, maybe even an A minus, because what they've done here, and I agree with

00:16:22.640 you that it's yet the next iteration of what's been going on before, but I think it's so important to

00:16:28.100 recognize that what's unprecedented is having a president who wants to go after the deep state.

00:16:33.840 Look, we are talking about bureaucrats who've been funneling tens of billions of dollars

00:16:37.940 to terrorists, to people that murder Americans overseas, that murder Americans here, that fuel 0.91

00:16:44.620 left-wing activities, that fund abortions and transgender. You and I could talk for an hour 1.00

00:16:49.060 about that list. And we've had reports and commissions and whatever. Doge is the first serious,

00:16:54.660 concrete attempt at actually hunting these things down, making them public, making it so that Congress

00:17:00.640 is a target to go after, to actually defund these things. And so, while that's the beginning,

00:17:06.300 it's a real beginning. And that is the thing that is truly spectacular and unprecedented.

00:17:12.400 Rich, I've only got two fact checks. One, we could probably talk for a thousand hours

00:17:17.400 about all of that. And I don't think it's a want to go after the deep state. It is most certainly

00:17:23.000 a need. But other than that, I totally agree with you. And as always, thank you so much for joining us

00:17:28.680 before we have you back on. In the meantime, if people want to follow you, where can they go to

00:17:32.160 do all that? Read, read the reports, read all of it.

00:17:34.600 Well, I will concede both your fact checks. And it's always a pleasure. Thank you for having me

00:17:40.320 on. You can find me at Rich A. Stern on Twitter. You can, of course, go to our heritage.org website,

00:17:45.240 find the things I write and that of all my colleagues and the entire team here as well.

00:17:49.240 So thank you again for having me on as always. Of course. Thank you, sir.

00:17:54.880 I think we are going to bring Ben Berkham in, who, of course, I mean, I'm used to seeing you live

00:18:00.980 on the scene at the southern border, though I guess there's not as much activity going on there.

00:18:05.560 We swapped out the illegals for Border Patrol agents, which is a much needed upgrade. But tell 1.00

00:18:10.880 us about where you are. Tee up the speech. Give us sort of, I'll use a word that's probably never

00:18:15.580 been used on War Room before. Give us a vibe check of what's going on in the room.

00:18:21.740 Well, I will be back out with ICE very soon. So stay tuned for that to the posse and War Room

00:18:26.720 audience. I'll be riding on the operations. But today we got a special invite here to

00:18:30.780 Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh. We're at U.S. Steel. This is one of their

00:18:35.580 three major facilities here in Mont Valley, just outside of Pittsburgh. This is the urban plant,

00:18:40.880 over a million square feet of covered space here. Massive, massive facility. President Trump's going

00:18:47.080 to be speaking here in just a minute to announce, really, that you can see it behind me, the golden

00:18:52.500 age in America. And you see all the folks that are sitting here in their orange vest. These are all

00:18:57.300 American steel workers. Natalie, the backbone of America, blue collar America, the men and women

00:19:04.180 who built this country, who the Democrats and the left and the chambers of commerce sold out for the

00:19:10.100 last 60 years. And now you have President Trump coming back in saying, we're going to put those

00:19:15.000 workers first again. We're going to put America first again. And the America first agenda is the

00:19:19.140 agenda that's going to save this country. And so that's what we're here for. Looking forward to

00:19:23.700 hearing about this deal with Nippon steel, it's going to be coming very soon.

00:19:28.580 And they're playing pit bull. I guess that's a testament to the real masculinity. I know we're

00:19:33.500 talking about this before. Democrats are busy spending, what, $20 million to understand what

00:19:38.640 it means to be a man. I would suggest mandatory viewing, the speech tonight, the people in the

00:19:43.900 crowd, the types of people who work in critical industries like steel. I'm inclined to think of

00:19:48.720 the coal miner suit. Ben, hang there. I'm sure we'll come back to you. Maybe we'll hit you before

00:19:52.660 President Trump starts speaking. But speaking of immigration, I've got someone, Jessica Vaughn from

00:19:57.720 the Center for Immigration Studies, who I would love to bring on. We have some good news coming out of

00:20:04.120 the activist judge brigade for once, and that is that President Trump is being allowed to, I think,

00:20:09.140 overturn the sort of faux legal status of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, migrants, 0.99

00:20:15.420 refugees, take your pick. I don't know. They're all euphemisms to me. But, Jessica, if you can walk 0.99

00:20:19.440 us through this decision today, please. Yes, this was a big win. I thought it was a pretty obvious

00:20:25.880 decision. The Supreme Court ruled seven to two to let President Trump's action to cancel the improper

00:20:36.920 parole status that Joe Biden was giving out that was the basis of the catch and release policies at the

00:20:43.300 border. Now he can proceed with that. There were two judges dissenting, Ketanji Brown-Jackson and

00:20:53.400 Sotomayor, lamented the devastating consequences that would face our country if President Trump were

00:21:02.380 allowed to revoke these protections from deportations. But not a word from them or acknowledgement

00:21:09.180 of the devastating consequences these parolees have wreaked on American communities, whether it's

00:21:17.060 Trenderagua and their crimes or attacks on people in shelters or just the cost of sustaining this 1.00

00:21:24.880 completely illegal parole problem. It made no sense that one president could not undo an executive

00:21:33.440 action of a prior one, especially one that was illegal. So this is really good news.

00:21:37.640 I'm curious. It seems like the left is getting intensely, almost at sort of an, I would say,

00:21:45.580 escalatory rate, just apoplectic over what is going on, particularly on the immigration and

00:21:50.560 deportation front, right? You see them breaking into the ICE facilities, the protesters. They're

00:21:54.600 getting very agitated about it. And it seems like it's because the court doesn't always have their

00:21:58.820 back, right? The decision that you were just talking about, right? They feel the need to go. And I

00:22:03.480 think, Jessica, we're going to have to be back because I think President Trump is coming out. So I think we're

00:22:07.280 going to have to toss to him or, you know, we're just going to keep the shot. So real quick, just give 0.88

00:22:13.200 us some of these other cases that are kind of in limbo, working their way through the court. Do you

00:22:17.640 think we're going to see similar decisions that will be positive for the Trump administration?

00:22:21.520 Or do you think they're going to sort of hamstring some of their decisions on the immigration front?

00:22:26.340 I think for the most part, these are going to be positive for immigration enforcement and the

00:22:31.140 president's authority. And we have to remember to see it in that light, that this is all an effort

00:22:36.760 to restore presidential authority over foreign affairs and immigration policy, because there's

00:22:43.340 no other way this can work for our country unless he gets that authority back. And it was so abused

00:22:49.000 under Biden to huge disastrous consequences for us. So we need this to happen. I think it will,

00:22:56.200 for the most part. I'm curious, too, in terms of the legal immigration front, everything that's been

00:23:06.520 going on with the H-1B visas, a lot of the foreign student stuff. Do you see any positive movement on

00:23:13.440 that? Or do you think that 120,000 number that I know our audience is very upset over, do you think

00:23:19.700 that that's sort of set in stone? No, I think we are almost certainly going to see action against

00:23:29.320 the abuse of not only guest worker programs, but also this absurd OPT program that has allowed like

00:23:39.740 300,000 people, former students, to take jobs in the United States at a discounted rate.

00:23:48.580 I think all of these programs are going to be reviewed. I think eventually Congress is going

00:23:54.060 to have to step in as well. But we're going to also start to see the employers who discriminate

00:24:00.400 against Americans openly be the subject of investigations from the Department of Justice.

00:24:06.800 And that's a huge win for American workers, because people were ignoring them for so many years before now.

00:24:13.280 Jessica, if people want to stay up to date with everything you guys are working on over at CIS,

00:24:21.500 I love your blog. I love the articles you put out. They're very dense, but they're full of research

00:24:25.840 that no one else wants to do. Where can people go to stay up to date with your work and everything

00:24:31.080 you guys are doing? Everything we do is at cis.org, including our sanctuary map, which has been updated

00:24:39.760 today and is similar to the DHS map that came out today. And I'm on Twitter at JessicaV at

00:24:47.520 underlinecis.org. Thank you, ma'am, for joining us. We'll have you back on soon, hopefully to break

00:24:54.680 more good immigration news. I hope so.

00:24:58.300 Again, I even think the term immigration is too cutesy, just like Steve always says deep state is,

00:25:06.980 because it's a mass invasion of this country. It's effectively kinetic warfare. I would also add,

00:25:13.300 it's quite interesting, as you guys know, it was buried in a very cool Politico piece today,

00:25:18.640 I believe they called it, yeah, another win for the Bannon wing of the Republican Party,

00:25:22.820 though I think Steve would probably reject that framing. He does not identify as a conservative

00:25:26.620 or Republican. He identifies as a populist nationalist, as I'm sure you do too. But they

00:25:33.020 were talking about, buried in the piece, how 70%, 70% of all hires for Silicon Valley-based tech firms

00:25:43.440 are foreign-born. And this was not per government data, and we'll get to the buried lead in a second,

00:25:49.060 but this was based off of a recent study, I guess one of the most recent ones that they had compiled

00:25:52.980 just through, you know, local or whatever accessible data they had. But that's the real

00:25:57.260 kicker, right? For a government that, you know, loves data and complex systems, and you know,

00:26:02.060 they always like to have, you know, their fact-checked resources available. They don't choose to gather

00:26:07.340 the data on the foreign worker programs from just a, you know, at face value level, right? The numbers,

00:26:14.760 the visa caps, which doesn't even include the overstayers or the wipes or the illegals or the chain 0.64

00:26:19.260 migration, all that stuff aside, even just the actual stated numbers, right? They don't want 1.00

00:26:24.340 to gather those numbers because they don't want us to be informed and understand the scope and

00:26:29.700 magnitude of what these, you know, guest worker programs, which is code for the great replacement

00:26:34.960 theory, replacing you, not just as an American citizen, but as an American worker. It's absolutely

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00:29:36.160 Welcome back to the War Room where we are awaiting President Donald J. Trump speaking in Pennsylvania.

00:29:43.280 I think as we speak, he's getting a tour with some steel workers. I was lucky enough to interview,

00:29:49.980 I think, some coal miners about a month ago at the White House. Different things, but still. Real

00:29:55.200 masculinity that I guess the Democrats are wasting $20 million to understand. I guess if you want to

00:30:01.300 understand all things economy, gold too, you've got to be checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon.

00:30:06.760 Get the latest installment of the wonderful books that Steve writes with the team, Philip Patrick,

00:30:12.220 give them a call. They love to talk to you. I've heard you guys love to talk to them as well.

00:30:17.140 I think we've got Brian Glenn. Like I said, we're also waiting for President Trump. But

00:30:21.100 we've got Jane Zirkle who wanted to come on. I wanted to have her on with the tragic passing of

00:30:27.320 a very dear friend of the show, the community. Really, I think the country writ large, and that

00:30:33.320 is none other than Bernie Carrick. Jane, I know you knew him very well. You had the honor of working

00:30:39.260 closely with him, I think, through your time with Mayor Rudy Giuliani. You also have a great piece up

00:30:45.360 on warroom.org. I don't know if we'll have time to get to that, but maybe you can give us a little

00:30:48.440 tease. But I just would like to give you a few minutes just to tell the audience about what a

00:30:53.220 wonderful man the one and only Bernie Carrick was. Yeah, so Bernie Carrick, America's police

00:30:59.720 commissioner. He was the NYPD police commissioner during 9-11. And when I was working for Rudy,

00:31:05.740 I had the honor of attending the 9-11 ceremony back in 2020. And obviously, with COVID, New York City,

00:31:13.380 it was shut down. And there was debates over whether the lights would shine, whether the names

00:31:19.600 would be read by family members. But the Tunnel to Towers Foundation stepped in and made sure that

00:31:25.440 those lights did shine and made sure that the family members were able to read the names of

00:31:30.560 their loved ones. And Bernie Carrick and Mayor Giuliani were in attendance that day. It was a beautiful,

00:31:36.960 solemn day, as always. And it was there that I learned about the Tunnel to Towers Foundation

00:31:41.360 that was created in honor of FDNY Stephen Siller, who was off duty during 9-11. But when he saw what

00:31:49.040 was going on, he strapped his gear on, ran through the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and into the World Trade

00:31:53.680 Center, where he ultimately lost his life attempting to save others. So today, the Tunnel to Towers

00:31:59.300 Foundation works to provide mortgage-free homes to Gold Star and first responder families,

00:32:05.360 and smart homes to catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. And for the past several

00:32:12.100 years, I have run in the Tunnel to Towers Annual 5K that's held in New York City to retrace the steps

00:32:17.600 of firefighter Stephen Siller. It is an amazing event for anyone who wants to make the commitment to

00:32:23.360 never forget, who loves this country, who loves New York City. It's simply just beautiful and awe-inspiring.

00:32:28.920 And this year, War Room thought it would be a really great idea to honor Bernie Carrick

00:32:35.280 in running in honor of him. So right now, I don't know if Denver can display that link that I sent

00:32:40.720 to Cameron, but we have a fundraising page set up at the Tunnel to Towers site. So you can support the

00:32:47.920 Tunnel to Towers mission. You can sign up for the run. You can run alongside myself and other War Room

00:32:54.160 Posse members as we join the commitment to never forget and honor Bernie Carrick.

00:33:01.420 I was honored to, I think, go to their annual gala in New York with Rahim, a man of the gala scene,

00:33:09.300 I think last year or two years ago. And it's really a wonderful organization. Jane, I'll have you plug

00:33:15.580 that one more time before you go, but just give the audience a little teaser since I think President

00:33:19.400 Trump is getting a nice, long, extended tour, as I'm sure he wants all the details. You have a new

00:33:25.180 op-ed up on warroom.org. Real quick, give us the latest. It's time to take doge to the mass

00:33:34.280 incarceration epidemic that is plaguing this country. President Trump this week has issued a

00:33:39.360 slew of pardons. And with the newly appointed pardonsar, Alice Johnson, it's ramping up. And it's

00:33:46.200 time to see a lot more action in the criminal justice arena. What I call for in this piece is

00:33:51.640 mass pardons for nonviolent drug offenses. Currently in federal prisons, 45% of inmates are in there for

00:33:58.940 nonviolent drug offenses. And so this is a huge burden on the American taxpayer. It costs on average

00:34:05.860 $30,000 to $60,000 per year to house these inmates. So if there were to be around 100,000 pardons for

00:34:14.340 nonviolent drug offenders, you would save the American taxpayer around $3 to $6 billion per year.

00:34:23.280 Quite, quite the proposal. I'm curious, why do you think letting more, though they mean nonviolent,

00:34:29.880 still criminals out on the streets as opposed to reforming the criminal justice system from within,

00:34:35.320 why do you think that's something that is particularly in, in Doge's lane?

00:34:39.440 Well, it was interesting. Savannah Chrisley put out a statement on X that said her pardon, the pardon for

00:34:47.140 her parents that she worked really tirelessly for was not a get out of jail free card, but rather a get out

00:34:53.840 of a rigged system card. And since the 1970s, when the war on drugs started, incarceration has just simply

00:35:00.840 skyrocketed. In 1970, America only incarcerated around 200,000 individuals. Now we incarcerate over

00:35:08.380 2 million individuals with nearly 4 million on probation and parole. So we do have a mass

00:35:14.800 incarceration epidemic. And it's time to take out some of the rot and corruption from our prisons by

00:35:22.180 letting people out who have proven to be rehabilitated or, you know, can live a life outside prison walls.

00:35:29.040 Look, if it were up to me, I'd probably send more people to, to see caught, but I digress, Jane. In

00:35:36.380 the meantime, one more time, hit us with where people can go to help honor Bernie Carrick's, uh,

00:35:42.540 memory at the tunnel to towers run. That's very brave of you to do that. And if people want to follow

00:35:48.160 you, read the piece where they can go to do all that. You can go to t2t.org and you can follow me

00:35:54.800 at Jane Zirkle on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and Getter. Thank you, ma'am, for joining us. We will

00:36:01.240 certainly have you back on soon. Thank you. I think we have Brian Glenn and Ben Burkham. It's a, uh,

00:36:11.980 a rab double header. Honored to be on with the two of them. We're going to bring them on together. Ben,

00:36:16.600 I think president Trump is about to speak and Brian, I'm not even sure if you're on the ground

00:36:22.400 there. Um, if you are, I'd love to get your thoughts sort of pre-gaming the speech.

00:36:28.880 Can you hear me? Okay. Natalie. Now I can. Yes. Wonderful. Wonderful. Well, thanks for having me

00:36:35.620 on. Uh, I'm outside the swamp. Uh, unlike you, I know you're right in the middle of DC, Ben, you're

00:36:41.360 there in Pennsylvania, but I, yeah, but, uh, I'm certainly enjoying watching the coverage as we

00:36:48.140 have president Trump, uh, back in that very key state of Pennsylvania and celebrate the fact,

00:36:54.040 Natalie, that manufacturing is staying right here in the U S where it belongs. And the people of

00:37:00.680 Pennsylvania, a big part of their economy, a big part of the campaign, uh, agenda of bringing

00:37:07.080 manufacturing back, keeping those jobs. And today is a celebration of that.

00:37:12.780 And Ben, I'm curious, we're told by the media that Americans overwhelmingly don't support these

00:37:18.440 tariffs, but it seems like there, it looks like there you go. Right on cue. President Trump is

00:37:24.680 walking out Denver. You let me know when you want me to shut up. I'm sure the audience just wants to

00:37:30.400 watch a president Trump. I don't blame them. Thank you, Brian, for joining us. And Ben,

00:37:36.020 we will hit you after he speaks. That is, of course, president Trump's walking out on stage

00:37:42.780 in Pennsylvania, speaking to a bunch of steel workers and hardcore MAGA devotees. We will

00:37:50.420 continue warm after he is done speaking with some, uh, post game analysis. So don't go anywhere.

00:37:55.460 From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee, across the waves of the sea, on the sea as I can see,

00:38:10.860 from Detroit down to Houston, New York to LA, where there's pride in every American heart, and it's time we stand and say,

00:38:23.220 I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me. And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.

00:38:46.220 I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me. And I gladly stand up next to you.

00:39:16.200 Next to you and defend her still today. But there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the U.S.

00:39:31.820 USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

00:39:48.340 Thank you very much.

00:39:51.380 What a group of people.

00:39:52.740 We love this group.

00:39:54.180 You voted for me.

00:39:55.620 They never had a chance in Pennsylvania.

00:39:57.840 They never even had a chance.

00:40:00.160 But I'm thrilled to be back in this beautiful Commonwealth

00:40:03.320 at the legendary Mon Valley Works.

00:40:08.320 Irvin Plant.

00:40:09.700 Irvin Plant with the proud Pennsylvania patriots

00:40:13.320 who are the heart and soul of U.S. steel.

00:40:16.440 Thank you very much.

00:40:17.340 That's great.

00:40:18.340 Oh, you're going to be happy.

00:40:21.160 You're going to be happy.

00:40:22.180 There's a lot of money coming your way.

00:40:24.280 It's a lot of money.

00:40:26.140 You're going to say, please, sir, we don't want this kind of success.

00:40:29.180 It's too much, sir.

00:40:30.060 We can't take.

00:40:31.180 Please, we beg you.

00:40:32.320 We don't want this much success.

00:40:33.940 But we do, really, don't we?

00:40:35.740 We're going to be so successful.

00:40:37.420 You have just started.

00:40:39.760 You're going to watch.

00:40:40.920 We're here today to celebrate a blockbuster agreement

00:40:43.880 that will ensure the storied American company stays

00:40:47.340 and American company.

00:40:49.220 You're going to stay in American company.

00:40:51.000 You know that, right?

00:40:51.840 But we're going to have a great partner.

00:40:56.800 We're going to have a great partner.

00:40:58.220 And I have to tell you, Japan has been a tremendous friend of mine

00:41:01.920 during my years as president.

00:41:05.120 And then we had a little hiatus.

00:41:06.680 We had a rigged election.

00:41:08.380 But then we won.

00:41:10.200 We said, let's make it too big to rig. 0.77

00:41:12.000 It made it too big to rig.

00:41:13.420 And this is a much more powerful term than we could have ever had the other way.

00:41:18.480 So a lot of things.

00:41:19.380 God was looking down on us all for a lot of reasons, including right there.

00:41:24.040 A lot of reasons.

00:41:25.120 We were blessed.

00:41:27.220 And you're going to be blessed.

00:41:28.300 You're going to see that.

00:41:29.140 It will keep its headquarters in the great city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

00:41:33.240 where it belongs.

00:41:33.940 For generations, the name United States steel was synonymous with greatness.

00:41:45.120 And now it will again be synonymous with greatness.

00:41:48.700 That's what it's going to be.

00:41:51.020 The best and strongest steel on earth will forever be made in America and made in Pennsylvania.

00:41:57.300 And I want to thank a man that I saw right at the beginning of this whole thing,

00:42:06.020 during my first term, as we call it, U.S. steel president, Dave Barrett.

00:42:12.560 Dave, thank you very much, wherever you may be.

00:42:15.440 Wherever you may be.

00:42:17.660 Thank you, Dave.

00:42:20.440 And he came to the White House and he said,

00:42:22.840 Sir, we're in trouble.

00:42:24.680 We need help.

00:42:25.520 He was put there to save the company, right?

00:42:28.860 I remember it so well, like yesterday.

00:42:30.900 He was put there.

00:42:31.580 They hired him to save the company.

00:42:34.180 And he came up and he said,

00:42:37.160 We need help, sir.

00:42:39.020 I said, What can we do?

00:42:40.220 Because all the steel companies were going south.

00:42:42.520 They were all in trouble.

00:42:44.260 He said, If you could get tariffs, sir, and save this company.

00:42:48.020 And I thought about it.

00:42:49.280 I studied it up real quick.

00:42:50.620 It took me about two minutes.

00:42:52.520 And I said, Dave, I think we're going to make you very happy.

00:42:55.240 And we did make you happy, didn't we?

00:42:56.720 We saved the company.

00:42:57.620 We put 25% tariffs on your company.

00:43:03.420 So we had protection.

00:43:05.120 We were protected from outside horrible influence, including dumping,

00:43:10.000 where they were dumping steel all over the United States.

00:43:12.620 And we saved it.

00:43:13.880 It was a great honor.

00:43:14.940 And Dave was really the first one that brought it to my attention.

00:43:17.460 And I appreciate it, Dave.

00:43:18.920 You did a good job.

00:43:20.060 You did a good job.

00:43:23.540 He more than saved the company.

00:43:25.260 He made the company great.

00:43:26.360 This will be a great company in a very short period of time.

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Episode 4525： Trump Victory In Immigration Courts; Speech Pregame

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