Episode 4525： Trump Victory In Immigration Courts; Speech Pregame
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On today's show, President Trump is getting ready to take the stage in Pennsylvania for a speech in favor of American Steel in a victory lap in Western Pennsylvania. Natalie Winters, Brian and Ben Burkwam join host Stephen K. Bambach to provide pregame coverage, and Rich Stern of Heritage joins the show to give us the latest on all things trade and tariffs.
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But that was a part of him kind of presenting his product for President Trump.
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And they had a fun moment in the car and talked about the innovation of Tesla and all of that.
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So that was one of my personal moments with Elon Musk.
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But I got to tell you, Mike, that moment today in the Oval Office kind of firing back at
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And that was kind of a fun moment, even though I wasn't there.
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It's a whole new energy in the golden age of America.
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We're going to toss it over to Natalie Winters, who's going to pick up anchoring the coverage
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here as President Trump is getting set to take the stage any minute down in western Pennsylvania.
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I think Ben Burkwam is going to remain with us throughout probably the pregame, the speech,
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and hopefully he'll give us some postgame analysis.
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Two today is, of course, Friday, May 30th in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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If we want to bring the show in, let's bring the show in.
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We got some guests that we will, like I said, use in our pregame up to President Trump's,
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Natalie Winters hosting today, Friday, May 30th, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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We're giving you some pre-Trump speech coverage.
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He is out in Pennsylvania continuing, I think, a wonderful tour, celebrating, appreciating,
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and hopefully incentivizing more Americans to get involved in steel, obviously a critical industry
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that, like we were talking about before, the Chinese have really outpaced us now for decades.
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There's a graph I think the studio should have if we want to put on screen just to sort of
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set the stage for what will be President Trump's speech.
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Before we get to Rich Stern of Heritage, who's going to give us the latest on all things, there
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Tariffs, trade, the great numbers that we saw President Trump play in the Oval Office
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today during his press conference with Elon Musk.
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Obviously, we've seen some evolving decisions coming from the bench, the very radical bench
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about all things tariffs, the constitutionality of what the Trump administration and people
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like Peter Navarro have done, particularly when it comes to China.
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There's been a lot of reporting coming out that the chief judge, an individual by the
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name of Mark Barnett, basically bypassed a lot of the standard protocol in terms of judge
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selection to set it up so that the three judges who were tasked with adjudicating all of the
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cases pertaining to President Trump's tariffs had a long, long track record, a CV, a resume,
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basically exclusively of anti-Trump decisions anytime they bumped up against him, which I
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guess fair point is probably most judges, not just in D.C., but across this country.
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But I think it's just important to make one key point.
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The timing of all of this is so critical, and not just because of what is going on here in
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the United States when it comes to our economic warfare with China, but more importantly with
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And I'm not just talking about what's been transpiring in the South China Sea and how
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China's really been ramping up some of their alternative weapon strategies like we've been
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talking about here in the war room for a while.
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But right now, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, is overseas in Singapore for the annual
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dialogue, the Shangri-La, where they're meeting with a dozen-plus countries a day, having their
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bilateral meetings, basically all tasked with focusing on American defense in the context
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of Asia, and most importantly, in the context of combating the Chinese Communist Party.
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So it's quite interesting, I think, that you see these judges choosing to get involved on what
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is probably the most intense form of economic warfare that we have ever waged against the
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Chinese Communist Party, in essentially the same time frame, right, plus or minus a few
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hours, when the Department of Defense is engaging in arguably the most critical, I would say,
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juncture of waging actual war, kinetic or otherwise, against the Chinese Communist Party.
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And a bunch of radical left-wing or establishment Republican judges are trying to send a signal saying
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that the United States is not serious about actually taking on the threat that is the
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Chinese Communist Party, right? And I think when you broaden this out, obviously, the paradigm that
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we've been seeing the Alien Enemies Act, the idea of deporting illegal aliens under the idea that it was
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an invasion using powers that are only, you know, I guess, leveraged by the president should it have
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been viewed as an invasion. I think you can broaden that out to these tariffs, too, right? If you believe
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that the PRC is at war with us, which we certainly do here in the war room, perhaps it's not kinetic
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yet, right? It might just be economic warfare. Then in the same way, these tariffs are a form of,
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I would say, maybe ammo, but maybe armor is a better metaphor to compare it to. So I think you're
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actually seeing an escalation, not just of these judges adjudicating policy from the bench and trying
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to usurp President Trump's presidential authorities. Imagine that. But they are now essentially acting as
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commander-in-chief. So that's why we always say we're not hurtling towards a constitutional crisis.
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We are actively in one. And of course, you're already starting to see the judges get involved
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with the foreign students, particularly the Chinese visas over at Harvard saying that you can't do that.
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It's, you know, who knows, racist. I'm sure that's probably somewhere in the actual textual documents
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that they're going to be apoplectic. Sorry, no, we should be deporting all of these people. We should
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not be educating the next generation of enemy combatants, kinetic information, economic or
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otherwise. And you can suck on that, Silicon Valley and all of you tech bros who are employing,
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I think 70% of all your workers are foreign born. Yeah, that doesn't sound very America first to me.
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So if you're going to wear the MAGA hat, maybe, I don't know, try to aim to hire. Hey, I'll take 50.
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Should be 100, but, you know. Anyways, I digress on all of that. I think we have Rich Stern,
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who I'm sure probably has some thoughts on what I was talking about. Rich, I wanted to bring you on
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just to sort of give us an update on all things tariffs, but also just the wonderful numbers.
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I'm sure you saw President Trump played him in the Oval Office. They were first a war room cold open,
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might I add. But if you can just give us your thoughts. Oh, absolutely. Look,
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I think he hit the nail on the head as always. You know, and again, what Trump is doing here is
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actually being the negotiator in chief that we all know. He's got this deal together. We've got
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Nippon Steel bringing Japanese money to invest in America. For the first time, we're all used to
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the opposite as being what's happening. And so we're looking at a deal here that you're right,
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is going to expand steel manufacturing in America, expand American jobs, pay American workers better,
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and return, start the down payment, if you will, on returning America to being the manufacturing hub
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of the planet. And so this is just one of those many things. We got four more years left with us,
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of course, right? And just walk us through, I know they have the stay until, what is it, June 9th?
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But how do you think this resolves? Do you think that the tariff case will be the one that sort of
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forces this constitutional crisis into the forefront? Do you think that that's where they have sort of
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the best arguments on their side? Or is it more on the immigration stuff? Where do you think they
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should be picking these fights? So the truth be told, and actually the Mies Center here at Heritage
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already published an article earlier today, kind of breaking down all of the details of all of this.
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And look, I think you're right that in some respects, we're already in the constitutional
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crisis. Look, you know, we can go through the four disastrous years of Biden, where court judges and
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bureaucrats were just handing out favors like candy to their friends. We're using the courts literally to
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go after churches and conservatives. So I'd say, look, we've been in that crisis for a while.
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To give you a few details on these cases, though, you know, look, I will tell you this. If you're
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kind of reading the plain text of the letter of the law, the precedent on it, IEPA wasn't the most
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robust route for the president to go down to do the tariffs. Now, what we published actually out of
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Heritage is the president's probably still on very firm grounding on the fentanyl-related tariffs. So
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these are the tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China. And we believe that the court probably
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ruled an error on that one. But we'll see as things go forward. And I should point out, you know,
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the case that was before the Court on International Trade and the court that was before the D.C.
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district court are actually ruling on two completely different non-overlapping issues. The first one,
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the International Trade Court, ruled on just the specific tariff emergencies. The latter one,
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the district court, rules on whether IEPA, the statute the president's using, can be used for
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tariffs at all. So we'll see as these cases unfold. But, you know, the last I'll say right now about it
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is the president's got these three other concrete tariff authorities. Really, he should use those
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to enact tariff policy, frankly, to give himself more protection against these radical judges you're
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talking about. We've got a few minutes before I'm going to jump to break. I'll hold you if I can.
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Obviously, the big press conference today with Elon, the, you know, farewell, that wasn't a farewell
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ceremony. I'm curious your thoughts. He spoke, obviously, of the currently, what is it, $160
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billion identified in waste, fraud, and abuse, which short term was projected to skyrocket,
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I think, above $200 billion. And then they talked about hopefully attaining at some point in time,
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unknown, a trillion dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse, kind of not blaming it, but pawning it off on
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the idea that it was the courts that was holding some of this up. I'm just curious your thoughts
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on these kind of speculative numbers, if you think that we could actually approach a figure like that.
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I think for sure we could. Look, the government bureaucrats own numbers. And look, you and I don't
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trust them at all. But even the government bureaucrats numbers from before President
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Trump was elected still indicated that there's probably four, maybe even $500 billion a year
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of at least fraud that goes out of the government, let alone some of these other abuses and waste and
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all of that. So the math is there. The wasted dollars are there. Again, dollars stolen from
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hardworking Americans and American businessmen as well. So the question is, what can we get at?
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And look, I think the thing that Doge has done that's been unprecedented is they could cut some of
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that money, but mostly they could shine a spotlight from inside the bulwark of the swamp on all of the
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structures of all of the grift and the corruption. And that's the information that no one had.
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We might have known some of these were there, but we couldn't tell you where the waste was,
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where the fraud was. Doge has put a spotlight on that. Doge is going to continue the right and make
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that material public to Congress. But at the end of the day, you know, the deep state's been doing
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this for decades. They've twisted Congress into defending their position. At the end of the day,
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we need Congress to have a backbone. It is Congress that needs to codify these things,
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the Doge has uncovered, and put on the table for them. So we need to lend them a backbone
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I think the only people capable of giving them a backbone is this audience, as they have done
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time and time again. Rich, if you can just hang with us through the break, Warren Posse.
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Hang with us. We've got a packed show. Obviously, President Trump is going to be speaking,
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I believe, at around 5.30. In the meantime, I think for everything we've been talking about,
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again. It's a great read. We'll be right back. Richard Stern, much more after this short break.
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Welcome back to The War Room. We are awaiting President Trump. I hear he is in the building,
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so we're getting quite close. We're going to hit Ben Berquam just in a second. But, Rich,
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before I let you go, I just have one last question, because obviously you're seeing the media's apoplexy.
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Oh, Doge is dead. Oh, they're not going to be able to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. I don't
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necessarily think that Doge is something novel. I think it's sort of the second iteration,
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frankly, of what, you know, bananism created, right, which is the idea of deconstructing
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the administrative state. Perhaps it's the kinetic warfare element of it. But I'm just curious,
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your thoughts sort of, you know, comparing, contrasting the first term of President Trump
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to the second term, how useful, if you think it has been, Doge was, or just sort of maybe a report
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card, an overall assessment. So I think Doge, certainly, and I think like Trump coming in this
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first time, and a lot of people around him, these are people that were outsiders, which is good.
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They weren't swamp creatures. But, you know, the tradeoff is it means that they didn't know where
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all the bodies were buried. They didn't know exactly who to trust. They didn't know exactly
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what they could push on. You know, we had Biden bureaucrats who've been doing this for decades,
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who in the two months leading out the door, you know, set landmines back for the troops coming in,
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right, to sabotage Doge's effort. And we should hunt down those bureaucrats, frankly, and undo those
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things. But, you know, that's part of what the deep state does. So, look, what I would say is,
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I think Doge has got B plus, maybe even an A minus, because what they've done here, and I agree with
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you that it's yet the next iteration of what's been going on before, but I think it's so important to
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recognize that what's unprecedented is having a president who wants to go after the deep state.
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Look, we are talking about bureaucrats who've been funneling tens of billions of dollars
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to terrorists, to people that murder Americans overseas, that murder Americans here, that fuel
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left-wing activities, that fund abortions and transgender. You and I could talk for an hour
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about that list. And we've had reports and commissions and whatever. Doge is the first serious,
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concrete attempt at actually hunting these things down, making them public, making it so that Congress
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is a target to go after, to actually defund these things. And so, while that's the beginning,
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it's a real beginning. And that is the thing that is truly spectacular and unprecedented.
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Rich, I've only got two fact checks. One, we could probably talk for a thousand hours
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about all of that. And I don't think it's a want to go after the deep state. It is most certainly
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a need. But other than that, I totally agree with you. And as always, thank you so much for joining us
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before we have you back on. In the meantime, if people want to follow you, where can they go to
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do all that? Read, read the reports, read all of it.
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Well, I will concede both your fact checks. And it's always a pleasure. Thank you for having me
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on. You can find me at Rich A. Stern on Twitter. You can, of course, go to our heritage.org website,
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find the things I write and that of all my colleagues and the entire team here as well.
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So thank you again for having me on as always. Of course. Thank you, sir.
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I think we are going to bring Ben Berkham in, who, of course, I mean, I'm used to seeing you live
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on the scene at the southern border, though I guess there's not as much activity going on there.
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We swapped out the illegals for Border Patrol agents, which is a much needed upgrade. But tell
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us about where you are. Tee up the speech. Give us sort of, I'll use a word that's probably never
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been used on War Room before. Give us a vibe check of what's going on in the room.
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Well, I will be back out with ICE very soon. So stay tuned for that to the posse and War Room
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audience. I'll be riding on the operations. But today we got a special invite here to
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Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh. We're at U.S. Steel. This is one of their
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three major facilities here in Mont Valley, just outside of Pittsburgh. This is the urban plant,
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over a million square feet of covered space here. Massive, massive facility. President Trump's going
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to be speaking here in just a minute to announce, really, that you can see it behind me, the golden
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age in America. And you see all the folks that are sitting here in their orange vest. These are all
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American steel workers. Natalie, the backbone of America, blue collar America, the men and women
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who built this country, who the Democrats and the left and the chambers of commerce sold out for the
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last 60 years. And now you have President Trump coming back in saying, we're going to put those
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workers first again. We're going to put America first again. And the America first agenda is the
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agenda that's going to save this country. And so that's what we're here for. Looking forward to
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hearing about this deal with Nippon steel, it's going to be coming very soon.
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And they're playing pit bull. I guess that's a testament to the real masculinity. I know we're
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talking about this before. Democrats are busy spending, what, $20 million to understand what
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it means to be a man. I would suggest mandatory viewing, the speech tonight, the people in the
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crowd, the types of people who work in critical industries like steel. I'm inclined to think of
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the coal miner suit. Ben, hang there. I'm sure we'll come back to you. Maybe we'll hit you before
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President Trump starts speaking. But speaking of immigration, I've got someone, Jessica Vaughn from
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the Center for Immigration Studies, who I would love to bring on. We have some good news coming out of
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the activist judge brigade for once, and that is that President Trump is being allowed to, I think,
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overturn the sort of faux legal status of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, migrants,
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refugees, take your pick. I don't know. They're all euphemisms to me. But, Jessica, if you can walk
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us through this decision today, please. Yes, this was a big win. I thought it was a pretty obvious
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decision. The Supreme Court ruled seven to two to let President Trump's action to cancel the improper
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parole status that Joe Biden was giving out that was the basis of the catch and release policies at the
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border. Now he can proceed with that. There were two judges dissenting, Ketanji Brown-Jackson and
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Sotomayor, lamented the devastating consequences that would face our country if President Trump were
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allowed to revoke these protections from deportations. But not a word from them or acknowledgement
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of the devastating consequences these parolees have wreaked on American communities, whether it's
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Trenderagua and their crimes or attacks on people in shelters or just the cost of sustaining this
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completely illegal parole problem. It made no sense that one president could not undo an executive
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action of a prior one, especially one that was illegal. So this is really good news.
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I'm curious. It seems like the left is getting intensely, almost at sort of an, I would say,
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escalatory rate, just apoplectic over what is going on, particularly on the immigration and
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deportation front, right? You see them breaking into the ICE facilities, the protesters. They're
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getting very agitated about it. And it seems like it's because the court doesn't always have their
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back, right? The decision that you were just talking about, right? They feel the need to go. And I
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think, Jessica, we're going to have to be back because I think President Trump is coming out. So I think we're
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going to have to toss to him or, you know, we're just going to keep the shot. So real quick, just give
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us some of these other cases that are kind of in limbo, working their way through the court. Do you
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think we're going to see similar decisions that will be positive for the Trump administration?
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Or do you think they're going to sort of hamstring some of their decisions on the immigration front?
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I think for the most part, these are going to be positive for immigration enforcement and the
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president's authority. And we have to remember to see it in that light, that this is all an effort
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to restore presidential authority over foreign affairs and immigration policy, because there's
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no other way this can work for our country unless he gets that authority back. And it was so abused
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under Biden to huge disastrous consequences for us. So we need this to happen. I think it will,
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for the most part. I'm curious, too, in terms of the legal immigration front, everything that's been
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going on with the H-1B visas, a lot of the foreign student stuff. Do you see any positive movement on
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that? Or do you think that 120,000 number that I know our audience is very upset over, do you think
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that that's sort of set in stone? No, I think we are almost certainly going to see action against
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the abuse of not only guest worker programs, but also this absurd OPT program that has allowed like
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300,000 people, former students, to take jobs in the United States at a discounted rate.
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I think all of these programs are going to be reviewed. I think eventually Congress is going
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to have to step in as well. But we're going to also start to see the employers who discriminate
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against Americans openly be the subject of investigations from the Department of Justice.
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And that's a huge win for American workers, because people were ignoring them for so many years before now.
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Jessica, if people want to stay up to date with everything you guys are working on over at CIS,
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I love your blog. I love the articles you put out. They're very dense, but they're full of research
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that no one else wants to do. Where can people go to stay up to date with your work and everything
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you guys are doing? Everything we do is at cis.org, including our sanctuary map, which has been updated
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today and is similar to the DHS map that came out today. And I'm on Twitter at JessicaV at
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underlinecis.org. Thank you, ma'am, for joining us. We'll have you back on soon, hopefully to break
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Again, I even think the term immigration is too cutesy, just like Steve always says deep state is,
00:25:06.980
because it's a mass invasion of this country. It's effectively kinetic warfare. I would also add,
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it's quite interesting, as you guys know, it was buried in a very cool Politico piece today,
00:25:18.640
I believe they called it, yeah, another win for the Bannon wing of the Republican Party,
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though I think Steve would probably reject that framing. He does not identify as a conservative
00:25:26.620
or Republican. He identifies as a populist nationalist, as I'm sure you do too. But they
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were talking about, buried in the piece, how 70%, 70% of all hires for Silicon Valley-based tech firms
00:25:43.440
are foreign-born. And this was not per government data, and we'll get to the buried lead in a second,
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but this was based off of a recent study, I guess one of the most recent ones that they had compiled
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just through, you know, local or whatever accessible data they had. But that's the real
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kicker, right? For a government that, you know, loves data and complex systems, and you know,
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they always like to have, you know, their fact-checked resources available. They don't choose to gather
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the data on the foreign worker programs from just a, you know, at face value level, right? The numbers,
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the visa caps, which doesn't even include the overstayers or the wipes or the illegals or the chain
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Welcome back to the War Room where we are awaiting President Donald J. Trump speaking in Pennsylvania.
00:29:43.280
I think as we speak, he's getting a tour with some steel workers. I was lucky enough to interview,
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I think we've got Brian Glenn. Like I said, we're also waiting for President Trump. But
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we've got Jane Zirkle who wanted to come on. I wanted to have her on with the tragic passing of
00:30:27.320
a very dear friend of the show, the community. Really, I think the country writ large, and that
00:30:33.320
is none other than Bernie Carrick. Jane, I know you knew him very well. You had the honor of working
00:30:39.260
closely with him, I think, through your time with Mayor Rudy Giuliani. You also have a great piece up
00:30:45.360
on warroom.org. I don't know if we'll have time to get to that, but maybe you can give us a little
00:30:48.440
tease. But I just would like to give you a few minutes just to tell the audience about what a
00:30:53.220
wonderful man the one and only Bernie Carrick was. Yeah, so Bernie Carrick, America's police
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commissioner. He was the NYPD police commissioner during 9-11. And when I was working for Rudy,
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I had the honor of attending the 9-11 ceremony back in 2020. And obviously, with COVID, New York City,
00:31:13.380
it was shut down. And there was debates over whether the lights would shine, whether the names
00:31:19.600
would be read by family members. But the Tunnel to Towers Foundation stepped in and made sure that
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those lights did shine and made sure that the family members were able to read the names of
00:31:30.560
their loved ones. And Bernie Carrick and Mayor Giuliani were in attendance that day. It was a beautiful,
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solemn day, as always. And it was there that I learned about the Tunnel to Towers Foundation
00:31:41.360
that was created in honor of FDNY Stephen Siller, who was off duty during 9-11. But when he saw what
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was going on, he strapped his gear on, ran through the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and into the World Trade
00:31:53.680
Center, where he ultimately lost his life attempting to save others. So today, the Tunnel to Towers
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Foundation works to provide mortgage-free homes to Gold Star and first responder families,
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and smart homes to catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. And for the past several
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years, I have run in the Tunnel to Towers Annual 5K that's held in New York City to retrace the steps
00:32:17.600
of firefighter Stephen Siller. It is an amazing event for anyone who wants to make the commitment to
00:32:23.360
never forget, who loves this country, who loves New York City. It's simply just beautiful and awe-inspiring.
00:32:28.920
And this year, War Room thought it would be a really great idea to honor Bernie Carrick
00:32:35.280
in running in honor of him. So right now, I don't know if Denver can display that link that I sent
00:32:40.720
to Cameron, but we have a fundraising page set up at the Tunnel to Towers site. So you can support the
00:32:47.920
Tunnel to Towers mission. You can sign up for the run. You can run alongside myself and other War Room
00:32:54.160
Posse members as we join the commitment to never forget and honor Bernie Carrick.
00:33:01.420
I was honored to, I think, go to their annual gala in New York with Rahim, a man of the gala scene,
00:33:09.300
I think last year or two years ago. And it's really a wonderful organization. Jane, I'll have you plug
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that one more time before you go, but just give the audience a little teaser since I think President
00:33:19.400
Trump is getting a nice, long, extended tour, as I'm sure he wants all the details. You have a new
00:33:25.180
op-ed up on warroom.org. Real quick, give us the latest. It's time to take doge to the mass
00:33:34.280
incarceration epidemic that is plaguing this country. President Trump this week has issued a
00:33:39.360
slew of pardons. And with the newly appointed pardonsar, Alice Johnson, it's ramping up. And it's
00:33:46.200
time to see a lot more action in the criminal justice arena. What I call for in this piece is
00:33:51.640
mass pardons for nonviolent drug offenses. Currently in federal prisons, 45% of inmates are in there for
00:33:58.940
nonviolent drug offenses. And so this is a huge burden on the American taxpayer. It costs on average
00:34:05.860
$30,000 to $60,000 per year to house these inmates. So if there were to be around 100,000 pardons for
00:34:14.340
nonviolent drug offenders, you would save the American taxpayer around $3 to $6 billion per year.
00:34:23.280
Quite, quite the proposal. I'm curious, why do you think letting more, though they mean nonviolent,
00:34:29.880
still criminals out on the streets as opposed to reforming the criminal justice system from within,
00:34:35.320
why do you think that's something that is particularly in, in Doge's lane?
00:34:39.440
Well, it was interesting. Savannah Chrisley put out a statement on X that said her pardon, the pardon for
00:34:47.140
her parents that she worked really tirelessly for was not a get out of jail free card, but rather a get out
00:34:53.840
of a rigged system card. And since the 1970s, when the war on drugs started, incarceration has just simply
00:35:00.840
skyrocketed. In 1970, America only incarcerated around 200,000 individuals. Now we incarcerate over
00:35:08.380
2 million individuals with nearly 4 million on probation and parole. So we do have a mass
00:35:14.800
incarceration epidemic. And it's time to take out some of the rot and corruption from our prisons by
00:35:22.180
letting people out who have proven to be rehabilitated or, you know, can live a life outside prison walls.
00:35:29.040
Look, if it were up to me, I'd probably send more people to, to see caught, but I digress, Jane. In
00:35:36.380
the meantime, one more time, hit us with where people can go to help honor Bernie Carrick's, uh,
00:35:42.540
memory at the tunnel to towers run. That's very brave of you to do that. And if people want to follow
00:35:48.160
you, read the piece where they can go to do all that. You can go to t2t.org and you can follow me
00:35:54.800
at Jane Zirkle on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and Getter. Thank you, ma'am, for joining us. We will
00:36:01.240
certainly have you back on soon. Thank you. I think we have Brian Glenn and Ben Burkham. It's a, uh,
00:36:11.980
a rab double header. Honored to be on with the two of them. We're going to bring them on together. Ben,
00:36:16.600
I think president Trump is about to speak and Brian, I'm not even sure if you're on the ground
00:36:22.400
there. Um, if you are, I'd love to get your thoughts sort of pre-gaming the speech.
00:36:28.880
Can you hear me? Okay. Natalie. Now I can. Yes. Wonderful. Wonderful. Well, thanks for having me
00:36:35.620
on. Uh, I'm outside the swamp. Uh, unlike you, I know you're right in the middle of DC, Ben, you're
00:36:41.360
there in Pennsylvania, but I, yeah, but, uh, I'm certainly enjoying watching the coverage as we
00:36:48.140
have president Trump, uh, back in that very key state of Pennsylvania and celebrate the fact,
00:36:54.040
Natalie, that manufacturing is staying right here in the U S where it belongs. And the people of
00:37:00.680
Pennsylvania, a big part of their economy, a big part of the campaign, uh, agenda of bringing
00:37:07.080
manufacturing back, keeping those jobs. And today is a celebration of that.
00:37:12.780
And Ben, I'm curious, we're told by the media that Americans overwhelmingly don't support these
00:37:18.440
tariffs, but it seems like there, it looks like there you go. Right on cue. President Trump is
00:37:24.680
walking out Denver. You let me know when you want me to shut up. I'm sure the audience just wants to
00:37:30.400
watch a president Trump. I don't blame them. Thank you, Brian, for joining us. And Ben,
00:37:36.020
we will hit you after he speaks. That is, of course, president Trump's walking out on stage
00:37:42.780
in Pennsylvania, speaking to a bunch of steel workers and hardcore MAGA devotees. We will
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continue warm after he is done speaking with some, uh, post game analysis. So don't go anywhere.
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From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee, across the waves of the sea, on the sea as I can see,
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from Detroit down to Houston, New York to LA, where there's pride in every American heart, and it's time we stand and say,
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I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me. And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
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I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me. And I gladly stand up next to you.
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Next to you and defend her still today. But there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the U.S.
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But I'm thrilled to be back in this beautiful Commonwealth
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Irvin Plant with the proud Pennsylvania patriots
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You're going to say, please, sir, we don't want this kind of success.
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We're here today to celebrate a blockbuster agreement
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that will ensure the storied American company stays
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And I have to tell you, Japan has been a tremendous friend of mine
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And this is a much more powerful term than we could have ever had the other way.
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God was looking down on us all for a lot of reasons, including right there.
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It will keep its headquarters in the great city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
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Dave, thank you very much, wherever you may be.
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Because all the steel companies were going south.
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He said, If you could get tariffs, sir, and save this company.
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