Bannon's War Room


Episode 4530: Trump's Article 2 Powers; Defense Against Judicial Sabotage


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Misogynist Sentences

6

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33


Summary

Steve and Eric discuss the latest in the Ukraine, the Iran deal, tariffs, and more. Plus, Mike Davis calls in from the Middle East and joins the show to talk about the Supreme Court and the future of the conservative legal movement.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 And beyond, meaning anyone else's fingerprints on it, as you point out, the United States fingerprints are all friggin' Lindsey Graham is in country, was or is in country, you know, in Kiev right now or when the attack took place. Good God, we are so implicated, Steve. It's your show, but I hate to do this. We'll bring it up again if you want.
00:00:19.680 Eric, hang on. Eric, you nailed the buried lead. And beyond. Okay. They're not leaving it in Ukraine. And beyond. So it's, folks, if you're a mad guy, support President Trump. President Trump has tried to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War.
00:00:36.040 And I got to tell you, ever since they went to this, as you and I have talked, Eric, ever since she went to Moscow for the 80th commemoration of Victory in Europe Day, the Russians have escalated in Ukraine, no doubt about that.
00:00:47.580 The Russian rapprochement doesn't look like it's going anywhere soon. She, tonight, we're going to start in Korea on the 6 o'clock show.
00:00:55.840 Looks like Korea is going to fall tomorrow at the ballot box, political warfare, a political party totally controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:01:02.560 The Persians told us today, thanks but no thanks on your nuclear deal. So, folks, get out the rosaries and say a few prayers.
00:01:11.820 But also, we've got to take some action here to back President Trump and make sure that we tone all this stuff down. Eric Bolling, your thoughts, Eric, before we punch out.
00:01:18.980 My thoughts are going to stick with you, Steve. I'm going to stick to the war room because you're on top of all. Appreciate your time, man. We'll see you again tomorrow.
00:01:26.120 Love you, brother.
00:01:26.860 You too.
00:01:27.160 Okay, see you again. Eric Bolling, the great. We've got Mike Davis by phone in an airport somewhere in the Middle East.
00:01:36.600 He can jump on now. Mike Davis, before we do our cold open, Brother Davis, we're getting bad news out of a lot of these courts.
00:01:45.780 And today, the New York Times had a huge article that the reason that we're getting smacked around on tariffs is because of an amicus brief signed by some of the most prominent legal minds in the conservative movement.
00:01:58.540 Your thoughts, sir?
00:01:59.360 Okay, I don't have a Mike Davis.
00:02:08.800 Mike Davis is there.
00:02:11.440 I am here.
00:02:12.560 Can you guys hear me?
00:02:14.200 Yeah, go ahead. Thank you.
00:02:15.640 We got you.
00:02:16.460 Sorry about that.
00:02:17.560 Our afternoon shift finally woke up.
00:02:20.240 Okay, go ahead, sir.
00:02:21.040 I would say this, that those so-called conservative lawyers who signed that amicus brief opposing President Trump's trade policies, I wouldn't exactly call those conservative lawyers.
00:02:36.440 They are Trump-deranged lawyers, and I think that they are a dying species.
00:02:44.960 Well, hold it, Mike.
00:02:47.720 I mean, there's MAGA, and there's, you know, the America First, the Populist Nationalists, the MAGA, all this.
00:02:54.760 We know it's something that's a borning.
00:02:56.720 But these are pretty traditional names, pretty big names in the traditional Republican Party.
00:03:02.480 So how are we going to – I mean, do we have a deep enough bench to get judges, to get lawyers to stay?
00:03:09.280 Last time I looked, we're barely hanging on by our fingertips over at Justice, and we're taking our best guy, Emil Bovee, and we're putting him on some federal court because we're short of judges, and we're certainly short of manpower in DOJ.
00:03:24.080 So how are we going to get enough bodies that are kind of MAGA lawyers since so much of the – it looks like the legal establishment is not with us, sir?
00:03:32.380 Well, I think that the legal establishment is going to move with the politics.
00:03:40.820 And I just did a trip to Israel with several federal judges and a bunch of lawyers, and I'll tell you, the bench is deep, and it's very good for the Supreme Court, for the federal circuit courts.
00:03:56.020 The difference this time is that President Trump is going to rely on people who are more based, like the Article III project, than the establishment people of the first term.
00:04:09.260 You were there, Steve.
00:04:10.260 You remember what happened.
00:04:11.300 President Trump had to prove something to Republicans back in 2016.
00:04:15.700 He had to prove that it was actually conservative, that it was actually acceptable to the establishment legal community.
00:04:23.500 And President Trump more than delivered.
00:04:25.320 He set records for the number of judges that he appointed.
00:04:29.100 He shifted the Supreme Court and the lower federal courts significantly to the right, and he's going to build on that in his second term with even more bold, even more fearless judges.
00:04:40.540 I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I broke every piece of china that I could get my hands on to confirm judges in the first term.
00:04:50.280 It's a lot different this time in the sense that we broke all the china.
00:04:54.020 We don't need to worry about blue slips for federal circuit judges anymore, where the home state senators get a veto for federal appellate judges.
00:05:01.800 We don't have to worry about the 30-hour rule for the district court judges.
00:05:06.440 It's down to two hours.
00:05:08.360 We are—we have a different Senate Republican majority this time.
00:05:14.160 We have—we're not hanging by a thread with people like John McCain and Jeff Flake and other wimps who were anti-Trump.
00:05:22.940 And we don't have the Russian collusion hoax, which cast significant doubts, even among Republican senators on President Trump in the first term.
00:05:32.480 And most importantly, President Trump doesn't need to prove anything to these D.C. establishment types he has delivered.
00:05:40.040 And these D.C. establishment types, they abandoned President Trump after President Trump gave—you know, gave them—picked their judges in the first term.
00:05:51.480 And many of them were very good.
00:05:52.740 Some of them were bad.
00:05:53.760 But guess what?
00:05:54.440 President Trump doesn't need the D.C. legal establishment anymore, especially after the D.C. legal establishment abandoned President Trump during four years of lawfare.
00:06:06.060 And they haven't said much about the judicial sabotage that's occurred since January 20th.
00:06:12.140 So I would say to the D.C. legal establishment, go to hell.
00:06:17.100 Are you—are you concerned?
00:06:19.620 Because the reason I wanted to bring this up to you in this article, this was about terrorists.
00:06:23.300 Now, obviously, a big part of that was calling on his commander-in-chief powers under Article 2 about this invasion, which the courts dismissed immediately.
00:06:33.780 Are you concerned the same group that wrote this amicus brief could be out there as—on TV, you know, as surrogates, writing more pieces when it comes down to these huge questions that you and I agree have to be resolved by the end of June on his Article 2 power as commander-in-chief?
00:06:52.980 Things like habeas corpus, like shipping these invaders, the bad guys, back to Central America and Venezuela, sir?
00:07:03.720 I'm not concerned about the people who signed that anarchist brief.
00:07:07.400 Those are the Republicans in name only.
00:07:11.460 I don't even know if many of them consider themselves Republicans anymore.
00:07:14.820 But these are the same people who sabotaged President Trump during the lawfare.
00:07:19.020 They said that the president of the United States is not immune from prosecution for his official acts.
00:07:25.240 These people have been Trump deranged for many, many years.
00:07:32.780 Mike, where do people go if they want to get involved with Article 3?
00:07:36.620 Where do they go?
00:07:37.380 Where do they go right now?
00:07:38.420 Because, man, we've got a fight on our hands big time across the board.
00:07:42.300 I think it's almost up to 200 cases have been filed to try to slow President Trump down.
00:07:46.780 Where do folks go?
00:07:47.440 Article3project.org, Article3project.org.
00:07:52.200 You can follow us on social media, donate.
00:07:54.600 And the most important thing is to take action.
00:07:59.460 A.M.L. Bovee for the Third Circuit is the big action item for the War Room Posse.
00:08:04.340 And I'm telling the War Room that these judges, these lawyers are going to move with the politics.
00:08:10.260 So that's why what we're doing, especially with this action center, with the War Room Posse, is so effective.
00:08:18.180 So your theory is that they move with the politics.
00:08:20.660 So if we put our muscle and show that we can get a couple of these judges across and support more MAGA folks at DOJ, FBI, etc., that the judges will follow because they don't have any political courage.
00:08:33.340 They'll go which way the wind blows.
00:08:34.560 And they understand the MAGA movement's here permanently.
00:08:37.300 They'll start coming our way.
00:08:38.460 Is that your theory of the case?
00:08:41.080 One hundred percent.
00:08:42.240 We did this on the law fair.
00:08:44.460 We did this to confirm President Trump's cabinet and subcabinet picks like Cash Patel, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:08:53.240 These bold, fearless reformers to the cabinet and subcabinet.
00:08:57.780 We're going to put these same type of lawyers on the federal bench, bold and fearless people like Amel Bovee, who put it all on the line for our Constitution.
00:09:08.000 And now he's going to be an outstanding Third Circuit judge.
00:09:12.540 There's no shortage of bold and fearless lawyers.
00:09:15.560 And we're going to make damn sure that they're considered and picked through the Article 3 project, working in a supporting role with President Trump and his team.
00:09:26.420 Perfect. Article 3 project.
00:09:28.240 Mike Davis, thank you so much.
00:09:29.860 We'll see you when you get back.
00:09:30.960 Missed you.
00:09:32.440 Thank you.
00:09:34.120 Mike Davis ends his pilgrimage and returns home.
00:09:36.780 What I want to do is play the cold open.
00:09:40.380 Let's just play the Katie Tur part on the intelligence community and we'll hold the David French part because then we can fit it in this block.
00:09:46.840 Does that work?
00:09:47.580 Yeah.
00:09:47.940 OK, let's go.
00:09:48.720 We're going to play.
00:09:49.660 We're going to actually.
00:09:50.500 And let's play the long open for War Room.
00:09:52.120 We're going to introduce the show.
00:09:54.060 Let's go ahead and let it rip.
00:09:55.500 FBI Director Cash Patel last month trying to bat away questions about how he is leading the FBI.
00:10:00.820 The book he is referencing is his own.
00:10:03.540 It's called Government Gangsters and it lays out his vision of the agency under Donald Trump, one that argues for drastic changes in order to root out partisan corruption, specifically the longstanding Trump complaint conspiracy that deep state agents were trying to destroy him through investigations from Russian collusion to the attempt to overturn the 2020 election.
00:10:24.380 To meet that goal, the New York Times reports Director Patel has laid off agents and officials in mass, leading to concerns about a significant loss in expertise, including in some cases, whole categories of agents.
00:10:37.580 Quote, a succession of top agents, all women were given an ultimatum, take a different post or be asked to retire.
00:10:43.820 Others are routinely subject to polygraph tests to try and suss out agents who have talked to the media or, as one former agent describes it, gossip.
00:10:53.460 And all are being sent a not so subtle message on what or at least what not to focus on by disbanding the elite federal public corruption squad in Washington, D.C.'s field office.
00:11:04.600 The one that investigated Trump's efforts in the 2020 election.
00:11:08.420 Times journalist Adam Goldman writes, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino have sent a clear message.
00:11:13.380 In essence, former officials said nobody is above the law except Mr. Trump.
00:11:19.160 You might be asking yourself, is this really the Republican Party?
00:11:23.860 What happened to the GOP's dogma of protecting the Constitution?
00:11:27.280 Peter Wenner wondered the same in The Atlantic, saying, quote, a party that formally proclaimed allegiance to the Constitution and the rule of law, warned about the concentration and abuse of power and championed virtue, restraint and moral formation has been transmogrified.
00:11:44.740 The Republican Party now stands for everything it once loathed.
00:11:51.500 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:11:55.420 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:12:01.840 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:12:06.100 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:12:08.080 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:12:09.500 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:12:12.140 It's going to happen.
00:12:13.420 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:12:16.800 MAGA media.
00:12:18.160 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:12:22.820 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:12:27.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:12:33.600 War Room.
00:12:34.540 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:12:36.620 Bannon.
00:12:36.960 It's Monday to June, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:12:45.880 You just heard Mike Davis coming back from the Middle East talking about this amicus brief and about these really a who's who of Republican lawyers standing against President Trump on one of the key parts of this.
00:13:02.440 The the tariffs, but essentially telling the New York Times they're really against Trump across a range of topics.
00:13:10.720 Katie Turner is reporting in the New York Times got this.
00:13:13.920 I don't know where they got it.
00:13:15.660 That Cash and Bongino are getting rid of are really starting to take apart the FBI.
00:13:20.300 We're not seeing it.
00:13:21.280 They're saying some senior guys are going.
00:13:22.760 I guess that's natural rotation.
00:13:24.580 We would love to see more of that.
00:13:26.860 We think that we understand Cash and Dan, you know, it's tough to control the place when you only have a couple of people, a particular place gets with 35,000 FBI agents.
00:13:37.340 But this situation in Ukraine proved it should remove any doubt from your mind that the deep state is there in the deep state is either withholding information from President Trump about what's really going on in the world or they're actively working against American interests, particularly American interests as defined by a guy who has a gig called commander in chief.
00:14:04.880 That would be Donald John Trump, who has said over and over and over again, I don't want the kinetic part of this third world war to metastasize.
00:14:14.160 I want to calm it down.
00:14:15.620 I want people to lay down their guns and stop shooting at each other.
00:14:19.320 We're going to figure out deals, economic deals, that people are going to be prosperous.
00:14:23.560 And in being prosperous, they're going to appreciate peace even more.
00:14:28.800 That's not what's going on.
00:14:30.200 We are hurtling towards a broader engagement in what is shaping up to be a massive war on the Eurasian landmass.
00:14:38.140 You think we had a couple of those in the last century?
00:14:41.800 I don't know.
00:14:42.780 Killed 200 million people overall when you add them all up.
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00:16:27.660 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:30.020 Monday to June in the Year of Alert 2025.
00:16:36.840 Welcome back.
00:16:39.240 Right there, they're talking about and they're complaining about cash in the team being too hard on the deep state.
00:16:45.600 I think now more than ever, and I hope the president's calling for this, because to me, you've got two choices.
00:16:52.960 Number one, and I think unless you condemn the escalation of the Ukrainians, and I'm not saying their attack is not audacious and bold and courageous and inventive and all those things, because it was.
00:17:05.160 Also, I don't believe at all it wasn't done without that team in Wiesbaden that the New York Times reported a year ago in 2024.
00:17:17.620 That was running the Ukraine war, running the Ukraine war from Wiesbaden with German intelligence.
00:17:27.420 It's just this is like the October 7th deal with with Hamas.
00:17:32.520 No, that was the Muslim Brotherhood and people thinking that thing through.
00:17:36.980 Just like on October 7th.
00:17:38.500 I don't believe I'm not a believer that other intelligence services didn't know about it.
00:17:42.340 It was too complicated.
00:17:43.700 It took too long to put together.
00:17:45.360 It had too many moving pieces to it.
00:17:48.000 They had all the all the kibbutzes.
00:17:50.300 They had all the they had all the floor plans for that.
00:17:53.400 It just had too much information.
00:17:54.620 It was too well coordinated.
00:17:55.660 It was too particularly a group that hasn't pulled off a lot of sophisticated air, sea, land operations over, what, 40 or 50 miles like ever in their history.
00:18:07.580 Here in the Ukrainians, and we have said from the beginning, the Ukrainians have been courageous.
00:18:12.860 The Ukrainians have been tough.
00:18:15.560 And Mersheimer was right.
00:18:17.220 We're going to fight to the last Ukrainian.
00:18:19.000 This is what the West wants to do.
00:18:21.660 The issue with this, they were supposed to be sitting down at a peace conference today or at least a ceasefire conference in Turkey.
00:18:29.320 I don't know.
00:18:30.080 Russians didn't seem particularly enthusiastic after they got hit.
00:18:34.800 Their strategic assets got hit.
00:18:36.300 And we had Boone Cutler on this morning, General Flynn's partner.
00:18:42.320 On the 5G warfare, he brings up a great point.
00:18:45.760 Hey, you don't think that can happen here in the United States of America with the Chinese Communist Party, given all the farmland that they control?
00:18:52.440 Given all the people they've got in the national labs, all the Chinese nationals they've got in these schools, 350,000.
00:18:58.660 Which is a good first step to send home.
00:19:01.840 And some innocent people are going to get wrapped up in that.
00:19:05.920 There's some people that hate the CCP in that.
00:19:08.420 But, hey, you can't weed it out like that at this time.
00:19:12.480 You just got to say, hey, every Chinese national, because you signed that document, you just got to go.
00:19:16.340 So, this is our point about the deep state.
00:19:21.900 Why are we getting drawn into this war?
00:19:25.960 We fought and people voted for an individual who was not a warmonger, who none of the wars started on his watch.
00:19:34.560 Why?
00:19:35.340 Because nobody would cross him.
00:19:36.980 Muslim Brotherhood wouldn't cross him.
00:19:38.980 Hamas wouldn't cross him.
00:19:41.460 Putin wouldn't cross him.
00:19:42.760 Xi wouldn't cross him.
00:19:43.720 And when it was stolen and the Biden regime was there, all hell broke loose.
00:19:48.960 Why is that?
00:19:49.600 Well, I don't know.
00:19:51.560 Maybe it's all the stories you're hearing now coming out of the White House through Jake Tapper and CNN about a close associate was there.
00:19:59.380 And Biden's wandering around closets.
00:20:02.380 Maybe that has something to do with it.
00:20:04.000 I don't know.
00:20:04.680 I'm just tossing it out there in the conversation.
00:20:10.440 This Third World War.
00:20:11.880 War, just so you understand, is going to be so lethal and so brutal, it will be World War I and World War II combined.
00:20:24.380 Let me repeat that.
00:20:25.340 It will be World War I and World War II combined.
00:20:30.240 You've got nukes all over the place.
00:20:32.240 You have chemical warfare.
00:20:33.240 Well, Steve, chemical warfare, wasn't that banned after World War I?
00:20:35.800 Mustard gas?
00:20:36.420 Hello, fentanyl.
00:20:37.440 We've lost a we've already have a million casualties coming from the Chinese Communist Party and the cartels.
00:20:46.260 This war full on, folks, see what you see.
00:20:51.700 And this weekend and they're calling it, oh, the Russian parts are Russian Pearl Harbor.
00:20:57.820 Yo, how did Pearl Harbor eventually end?
00:21:01.780 And the attackers were basically burned alive.
00:21:08.920 Curtis LeMay, after he finished destroying industrial Germany, he went over and with conventional bombers and napalm.
00:21:19.980 In low altitude flight of, you know, flights.
00:21:23.140 Kyoto and Tokyo, he burned virtually to the ground.
00:21:29.240 The damage they had was as bad as the damage for a nuclear weapon.
00:21:32.300 That wasn't in one weapons package.
00:21:36.820 Then we dropped two nukes, not one, two.
00:21:40.620 They were not convinced.
00:21:41.980 Think about that.
00:21:42.560 They were not convinced after the first nuclear weapon.
00:21:44.880 I think we'll hang in there.
00:21:45.920 This is what happens.
00:21:50.060 You go from unrestricted warfare, right, to the kind of political, the political warfare, the PSYOP and political warfare.
00:21:57.620 And you're going to see that tonight.
00:21:59.480 What are we going to show you starting at six o'clock?
00:22:02.760 It'll be seven in Seoul.
00:22:04.480 And I think we got Mina Kim is now there.
00:22:06.740 I think Mina, Grace has been working with her.
00:22:09.300 I think Mina may actually be at a polling station.
00:22:11.120 Don't know, but she's going to try there.
00:22:13.600 And I want to show people this is what political warfare is.
00:22:16.120 The Chinese Communist Party worked on this one for a long time.
00:22:19.700 They have a party.
00:22:20.660 They control their people.
00:22:21.780 They're Chinese over there right now.
00:22:25.840 Chinese helping the party, helping the party win.
00:22:32.140 70 years ago, we've got a we have an ally that the war is not over.
00:22:38.740 They don't have a they don't have a deal.
00:22:40.980 It's kind of an abeyance.
00:22:42.240 Both sides put their guns down.
00:22:46.540 And given all the valor and the bravery.
00:22:50.980 Of both of both the South Korean army and the South Korean people.
00:22:54.800 And man, that was brutal.
00:22:56.300 Korea is the forgotten war.
00:22:57.420 It's not talked about enough.
00:23:00.040 And Korea is a dagger at the heart of Japan and a dagger at the heart of Taiwan.
00:23:03.940 Tonight, tomorrow, by tomorrow night of this show.
00:23:07.020 Unless we can pull off a miracle and this miracle will be five X what Poland was.
00:23:11.120 Poland was kind of a dead.
00:23:13.660 We were always losing.
00:23:14.560 It was kind of a dead heat.
00:23:15.460 And this is why I think Matt Schlapp and the team provided the energy, got the media, got
00:23:19.940 people down there, got the animal juices flowing, went into a part of Ukraine, a part of Poland
00:23:23.880 that you had to get massive turnout and got it and pulled it off.
00:23:27.520 And a hat tip to Matt Schlapp and the entire CPAC crew that went over there.
00:23:31.920 And also the people in Poland worked with them.
00:23:35.260 We may pull this out in Korea.
00:23:36.780 I'm not feeling it.
00:23:37.620 I don't feel the urgency.
00:23:38.720 I don't see the energy.
00:23:39.740 Something's up there.
00:23:40.500 This will be a major strategic loss.
00:23:44.360 The Chinese Communist Party would have pulled off on political warfare.
00:23:49.740 And then, of course, after you got that, you've got you've got the economic warfare.
00:23:54.100 Then you slide to the kinetic war, which is what they want us to slide into now.
00:23:59.300 And then you get into the unconditional, not unrestricted, unconditional warfare where there's
00:24:04.440 no conditions.
00:24:05.320 It just goes to annihilation.
00:24:06.720 And why?
00:24:07.340 Because people get tired.
00:24:08.220 This is part of what you're seeing in Ukraine right now.
00:24:13.040 Because there's a million and a half casualties on both sides.
00:24:17.280 And on the Ukrainian side, there's tons of civilians and people get angry.
00:24:21.060 They want vengeance.
00:24:23.880 They want vengeance.
00:24:26.860 What do you think Gaza is?
00:24:28.220 Look at that.
00:24:29.660 Look at that nightmare.
00:24:31.160 What do you think that's about?
00:24:33.100 These don't get better.
00:24:34.240 They only get worse.
00:24:35.020 We're getting sucked into this.
00:24:37.280 And once we get sucked into it, you just can't sit there.
00:24:40.840 Oh, OK, well, I rethought it.
00:24:42.320 I want out.
00:24:43.620 You've got to not get in.
00:24:46.140 And to have a country like Ukraine that pulled this off.
00:24:51.580 And if they didn't come to the White House and ask permission to do it, then that's all
00:24:56.760 you need to know.
00:24:57.340 They've got to go.
00:24:58.480 Cut them off.
00:24:59.180 You've got to condemn it.
00:25:00.040 And you've got to cut them off.
00:25:00.880 The New York Post is sitting there in the New York Post.
00:25:05.560 Look, they get smart guys or they're saying, hey, this is what you need to bring Putin back
00:25:09.440 to the table.
00:25:09.980 What we need to bring Putin back to the table is to start getting serious about his partner.
00:25:18.660 Everything was going the right way until May 7th, 8th and 9th.
00:25:22.000 And what was that?
00:25:23.000 Oh, that was a commemoration.
00:25:24.720 We told you that was a big deal.
00:25:26.160 Everything's changed since then.
00:25:27.320 They had three days to kind of buddy around.
00:25:29.980 This is what happened in 2019.
00:25:31.640 They had three days to buddy around.
00:25:33.360 And guess what?
00:25:33.900 It came out of there.
00:25:35.100 And the Chinese have been non-participants.
00:25:37.340 Scott Besson admitted today or yesterday on the talk shows.
00:25:40.640 They haven't really been engaged for a couple of weeks.
00:25:44.040 Oh, and then President Trump dropped the bomb.
00:25:46.020 Oh, and all the agreements we had in Geneva from a couple of weeks ago, they haven't lived
00:25:50.520 up to any of them.
00:25:52.660 They haven't lived up to any of them.
00:25:54.160 They're the ones driving this.
00:25:57.160 They're the senior partner.
00:26:00.420 And now they're going to see with this political victory, if it happens tomorrow, and listen,
00:26:05.180 there are a lot of people working around the clock to make sure that the conservative party
00:26:10.280 in South Korea wins.
00:26:12.860 I'm just not feeling the energy, but praying for a victory here.
00:26:17.060 Because if we lose through political warfare without a shot being fired,
00:26:22.420 horrible consequences, horrible consequences, you're going to see, I think, the entire timetable
00:26:32.200 pulled up, pulled forward this way to an invasion of Taiwan.
00:26:37.360 And why do I say that?
00:26:38.140 Because I was with the Seventh Fleet.
00:26:40.520 What the Chinese are doing now are not military exercises.
00:26:43.460 They're not.
00:26:43.960 This is rehearsals.
00:26:47.700 This is what our team in England in that wet and cold spring, winter and spring of 1944
00:27:00.340 were doing to get ready for the landings in Normandy and all the different rehearsals they
00:27:06.040 were doing for Normandy.
00:27:06.880 This is beyond just some military exercise to figure out how to do things and work in coordination.
00:27:11.940 This is actually where you have points, boom, boom, boom.
00:27:14.960 Here's what we're going to do.
00:27:15.680 Here's the timetable.
00:27:16.520 Here's what's going to happen.
00:27:17.420 Here's where the plane's got to be.
00:27:18.860 Here's where the amphibs have got to be.
00:27:20.800 Here's what the Americans are going to do.
00:27:22.300 They're doing rehearsals for an invasion of Taiwan.
00:27:24.640 And if you have no interest in Taiwan, no interest in the Taiwanese people, no interest
00:27:32.380 in the market, that's fine.
00:27:33.420 That's 100 percent fine.
00:27:34.840 It's not a problem.
00:27:37.020 There's only one hitch.
00:27:40.780 Essentially, our economy runs off the advanced chips that come out of that island, the plants
00:27:46.440 and the design and all of it.
00:27:48.060 And as much as we try to get it here and we're making huge progress in places like Arizona,
00:27:52.380 some places like Ohio, that's a decade away and probably 20 years away from being ramped up.
00:28:03.660 We're inexorably getting drawn into this.
00:28:06.720 And this is it's like World War I and World War II.
00:28:09.260 You see what's going to happen and you can't stop it.
00:28:14.500 One way to stop it, put the deep state on report.
00:28:17.680 We're coming for you.
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00:30:14.400 Okay, I've got Costello and Koffer.
00:30:16.540 I'm going to start with Costello.
00:30:18.520 The importance of South Korea, besides the moral and, you know, we've been their allies
00:30:25.080 with the Korean people through World War II and obviously in the Korean War all the way
00:30:30.740 through it.
00:30:31.080 I spent a lot of time in Korea, had business in Korea, had partners in Korea, served in
00:30:35.340 the military over when I was in the Navy in Korea.
00:30:38.260 Fantastic people.
00:30:39.160 I can't tell you how good the Korean people are.
00:30:41.600 What a great country.
00:30:42.800 And tough people, but kind.
00:30:44.640 Tough but kind.
00:30:45.320 But also a major strategic partner with strategic assets, particularly technology.
00:30:51.980 Costello, Korea and Taiwan, importance to the United States of America, sir.
00:30:57.000 Yeah, let's start with, you know, the election coming up here, Korea, Steve.
00:31:01.920 So there's two companies, Samsung and SK Hynix in Korea that make something called high
00:31:09.920 bandwidth memory, which high band, there's two things.
00:31:12.700 Well, there's a bunch of things, but there's two real things you need to make this AI and
00:31:16.640 a lot of the new technologies we're working.
00:31:18.200 You need the high bandwidth memory and you also need the chips and the semiconductors.
00:31:22.400 So think, I'm simplifying it, but think data sits in the memory and then the semiconductors
00:31:27.020 do the math right around this AI stuff.
00:31:29.700 So we have 70% of the high bandwidth memory requires from South Korea.
00:31:34.120 So if you have the CCP inserts their influence now on this election and has stronger leadership
00:31:39.440 aligned with them, we're not only dealing with our chips and semiconductors, which everybody
00:31:43.880 knows is made in Taiwan, but we're dealing with the high bandwidth memory that's in South
00:31:48.000 Korea.
00:31:48.740 And then, as you've seen a lot in the news over the weekend, the rare earths, which is
00:31:52.200 where China backed down on their agreement earlier, that goes into making these things.
00:31:56.960 So the underlying substrates that run a lot of the technology we're talking about reinvented
00:32:01.860 manufacturing on ends up controlled or influenced by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:06.200 And people, this is what I say, forget any allegiance, any love for, association with, democracy,
00:32:15.900 anything like that.
00:32:16.880 Just real politic dealing with the American economy.
00:32:21.200 If we lose access to this, if the Chinese Communist Party controls South Korea and controls Taiwan,
00:32:27.100 how big a hit is that on the post-industrial digital economy of the United States of America,
00:32:33.920 sir?
00:32:35.080 It's everything.
00:32:35.780 It takes away all our leverage.
00:32:37.220 You know, we're looking at, you know, a lot of these new announcements have been AI related
00:32:41.160 in the Middle East.
00:32:42.220 There have been, you know, the partnership there in the Middle East, Taiwan semiconductor building
00:32:46.700 in Arizona, as you mentioned, like all this stuff requires rare earths, it requires semiconductors
00:32:53.180 from Taiwan, and it requires high bandwidth memory from South Korea.
00:32:57.020 So it's no wonder that, you know, Secretary Dawson is having trouble and they're having trouble
00:33:01.780 negotiating with the Chinese.
00:33:02.940 They feel like they have us.
00:33:03.860 You know, they're certainly going to wait and see how this influence election plays out
00:33:07.360 in South Korea and what their negotiation points are.
00:33:09.940 And, you know, as Hegseth talked about over the weekend, these aren't drills.
00:33:13.300 And, you know, this is getting very serious in Taiwan.
00:33:17.980 Hegseth over the weekend said the assault of the Chinese was imminent, caused a total meltdown
00:33:24.540 in Singapore where he did it.
00:33:26.980 You hang on, Brian.
00:33:28.040 But one question I've got is when you talk about the Geneva and what they agreed to, this
00:33:35.160 was about rare earths processing, also about magnets and ball bearings that keep that are
00:33:40.180 central to American factories running.
00:33:42.280 The Chinese looked it over and said, man, we'll let the Americans sweat for a while.
00:33:46.700 Is that the correct take on things?
00:33:50.320 Yeah.
00:33:50.800 You know, it's funny.
00:33:51.540 Rare earths aren't actually that rare, right?
00:33:53.260 Like we have a lot of them here.
00:33:54.780 But the refinement capabilities of these rare earths, to turn them into magnets and all these
00:33:59.060 things, that is largely dominated by China now.
00:34:02.240 This is an industry in China made in 2025.
00:34:04.900 Ironically, what's the year?
00:34:06.020 In 2025, they chose that they were going to dominate price competitors out of the market,
00:34:11.400 put state capital in and make sure the refinement of these rare earths and critical minerals
00:34:14.940 that they took leadership in so they controlled it.
00:34:17.700 You know, and unfortunately, we haven't had huge efforts there in the U.S.
00:34:23.660 Rebecca Koffler, it appears to us that things changed after the 80th commemoration when she
00:34:29.960 and Putin were able to hang out for a couple of days.
00:34:33.640 That's the railhead of what this, the actions of the CCP and the actions of the KGB and the
00:34:40.500 rulers of Russia seem to be pretty hardcore.
00:34:44.180 Do you believe now that we're in a kinetic war, given what happened over the weekend?
00:34:49.260 Do you believe now the United States has actually been dragged into where we can't deny it anymore?
00:34:53.840 A kinetic war with the Russians, ma'am?
00:34:56.780 Absolutely.
00:34:58.040 Yes, sir.
00:34:58.820 We are no longer in a proxy war with Russia.
00:35:03.640 The United States is now officially in a direct kinetic war with Moscow because of how Russia looks at things.
00:35:15.740 Ukraine has no indigenous capability to execute this tactically brilliant operation that doesn't have satellites.
00:35:25.500 It cannot geolocate these strategic nuclear bombers, right?
00:35:30.460 Those bombers are reserved to wage nuclear war, and Ukraine just attacked them.
00:35:38.420 And that came right after Ukraine tried to assassinate President Putin.
00:35:46.560 Russian President Putin's helicopter when he was visiting Ukraine came under a drone attack.
00:35:53.480 And so right now, because the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation that Putin actually updated late last year,
00:36:02.320 because he has noticed that we are consistently climbing this escalation ladder,
00:36:07.120 it has a clause of a joint attack.
00:36:10.260 And so they are looking at this attack, that it is enabled by the United States.
00:36:17.780 And that is the danger.
00:36:19.680 We are climbing very steadily the escalation ladder.
00:36:23.880 And we're probably—the actual full ladder is classified, so I can't talk about it.
00:36:29.900 But it's my official intelligence assessment that we have climbed up more than 50 percent at this point.
00:36:37.420 And the danger is here.
00:36:39.760 At first, it goes pretty gradually.
00:36:42.700 But then after you cross a certain threshold, it goes very, very fast into cyber warfare, space warfare,
00:36:49.760 and then all the way into the nuclear, and every single war game that we conducted back in the intelligence community,
00:36:56.440 and we conducted dozens of them, and I led some of the red teams, it ended up in a nuclear war.
00:37:03.620 And guess what?
00:37:04.600 Blue lost and red won.
00:37:07.480 Why?
00:37:08.020 Because Putin has a playbook.
00:37:09.680 He has been planning for it.
00:37:11.880 It's all, you know, very well thought through.
00:37:14.680 And we don't.
00:37:15.740 We don't have the response because instead of actually targeting Russia and neutralizing the threat,
00:37:23.120 the deep state of the U.S. intelligence community was chasing the nonexistent Russia-Trump collusion.
00:37:30.100 So they weren't doing their job.
00:37:31.440 They were trying to unseat President Trump.
00:37:36.140 And that's what happened.
00:37:37.040 And that's why we are almost in World War III right now.
00:37:41.080 Why is that?
00:37:41.580 Because once it starts, China, North Korea, Iran, whom are they going to side?
00:37:47.280 They're going to side with Russia.
00:37:49.200 And that is why.
00:37:50.280 It's not just Russian nuclear arsenal.
00:37:52.340 It's all of the—it's China.
00:37:53.760 You're adding all the capability that's going to be all combined and used against the United States.
00:38:01.000 What did Putin mean when he said, by the way, the symbolism of the Turkish fiasco today where it basically lasted 30 minutes.
00:38:10.180 What does that tell us?
00:38:11.420 Well, that tells us that President Trump's peace plan, unfortunately, has been sabotaged.
00:38:21.560 It has been sabotaged by Zelensky, whom we actually have given billions of dollars, right?
00:38:28.780 And very, very strategic military hardware, having depleted our own arsenal.
00:38:37.740 And it has been sabotaged by the deep state.
00:38:41.920 Because at the pieces, though, President Trump didn't even know about Ukrainian assassination attempt on Putin.
00:38:49.860 And he didn't even know about this reckless strike on Russian nuclear bombers that Ukraine just executed.
00:38:59.080 And so, therefore, there's nothing to talk.
00:39:01.580 What is there to talk about, right?
00:39:03.720 So, Putin is almost certainly right now thinking through what it is that he is going to do.
00:39:12.080 Because his decision calculus is right now based on what I just said, that he needs to follow the Russian doctrine and the joint attack clause.
00:39:25.620 I'll tell you exactly what the joint attack clause says.
00:39:28.640 It says, any aggression against Russia or its allies by a non-nuclear state, i.e. Ukraine, with the participation or support of a nuclear power, which is us, will be seen as the joint attack on Russia.
00:39:45.420 And so, they are likely, right now, developing targeting packages and deciding what is it that they're going to attack.
00:39:54.680 I absolutely do not rule out the possibility of attacking, of the Russians actually attacking, at this point, a NATO country.
00:40:03.820 They wouldn't have done it if Ukrainians didn't do that, right?
00:40:08.200 But right now, the doctrine justifies for the action.
00:40:12.180 Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:40:13.500 TASS reported last week.
00:40:14.640 Now, it is TASS.
00:40:16.480 But it's the official propaganda.
00:40:18.040 They reported last week, I think Thursday, when Mertz and those guys got the trip set up after they found this out.
00:40:24.440 TASS said the Russian military was actively looking at targets in Berlin.
00:40:30.820 Did they not, ma'am?
00:40:33.100 It is my—yes, TASS absolutely said it, and you're correct.
00:40:38.040 So, it is a state official news—you can't really call it news agency anymore than you can call New York Times at this point and independent media.
00:40:50.660 But they are signaling to us, they are signaling, don't go there, de-escalate, de-escalate.
00:40:58.560 And if, let's say, President Trump gets on the phone right now with Putin, they could potentially work something out.
00:41:07.860 Because Putin right now believes, likely, almost certainly, that actually President Trump was in on it, that he knew.
00:41:16.640 Because why does he think that way?
00:41:18.800 He thinks that way because President Trump posted on his true social that Putin is crazy and that bad things could happen to Russia.
00:41:32.220 And that came right after Mertz's revelation that there were no longer any limitations on Ukrainian strikes deep inside Russia.
00:41:42.020 And so, that's exactly what they're doing.
00:41:44.900 My intelligence analysis—
00:41:46.660 Hang on.
00:41:47.180 I think President Trump said, I don't know what happened to him.
00:41:52.240 He's acting crazy.
00:41:53.060 He's playing with fire.
00:41:54.860 And then he implied that bad things could happen.
00:41:57.620 Yeah.
00:41:57.920 And you're saying that they probably took that as he had some understanding.
00:42:00.780 When Putin comes out and says, hey, we're not going to hit right away, we're going to fully investigate this and make sure that we have accountability, we understand, of Ukraine and beyond.
00:42:12.500 When he says and beyond, how should Americans read that, ma'am?
00:42:16.060 Okay, well, first, I just want to reiterate that we, both the United States and Europe, are right now in Putin's nuclear crosshairs because Zelensky placed us there, according to the Russian doctrine.
00:42:34.160 So, right now, Putin is trying to decide.
00:42:36.440 He's usually very measured.
00:42:38.160 Have you noticed that he hasn't really, you know, being emotional about any of this, right?
00:42:44.800 So, right now, we should interpret it that they are looking at targets.
00:42:52.320 They're looking at targets, including in Germany, in Poland.
00:42:56.440 Will it be necessarily nuclear?
00:42:58.720 No, not right off the bat because it's a slow progression because every single step that Putin takes on the escalation ladder in response to either us or Ukrainians escalating, he is telegraphing.
00:43:12.820 De-escalate, de-escalate.
00:43:15.360 So, and they have capabilities right now, such as the Oresnik hypersonic missile, which is dual capable, right?
00:43:25.360 It can be outfitted either with a conventional warhead or with a nuclear warhead.
00:43:29.680 And not only we, the United States or Europe, have an answer to that.
00:43:35.680 We can't.
00:43:36.060 Ballistic missile defense cannot really protect us from that because it's Oresnik, for example.
00:43:43.100 It's a ICBM disguised as an IRBM.
00:43:48.060 Go ahead.
00:43:48.860 Hang on for one second.
00:43:50.940 We'll take a short.
00:43:51.520 Yes, sir.
00:43:51.960 Brian Costello, our guide for all things technology and artificial intelligence.
00:43:58.000 Rebecca Koffler, an intelligence professional specializing in Russia.
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00:47:05.360 Brian Castillo.
00:47:06.180 Brian, I'm going to hold you because I want to say I got more about artificial intelligence and the CCP, what's going on.
00:47:12.400 Rebecca Koffler, I just want to be very clear with the audience, and we've got a couple of minutes here.
00:47:17.680 Just once again, and do it in a minute or so, the joint attack doctrine, this joint attack doctrine the Russians have.
00:47:25.180 If attacked by a non-nuclear power, because they've got a bunch of them over there in Eastern Europe.
00:47:30.180 If attacked by a non-nuclear power that they feel they can prove is backed by a nuclear power, they consider that then an attack, even if not directly, an attack by that nuclear power.
00:47:42.920 Is that correct?
00:47:44.680 Exactly.
00:47:45.280 Because Ukraine does not have its indigenous capability.
00:47:50.100 The United States and NATO are enabling it.
00:47:54.100 And it is very, very serious, Steve.
00:47:57.700 Every single war game has shown that that's where it's going.
00:48:02.180 I personally briefed just last summer the space forces that President Trump stood up, right?
00:48:10.660 And they have a mission of protecting the United States, they and our strategic command, who has our nuclear weapons and is charged with a mission to protect us.
00:48:23.120 And they are very, very worried about it.
00:48:24.980 So the first thing right now that needs to happen, President Trump needs to get on the phone with Putin and explain to him, as embarrassing as it may be, that he was not aware of it.
00:48:36.660 He needs to cancel all support for Ukraine because Zelensky is reckless.
00:48:42.700 He's putting us on a nuclear keg with hundreds of thousands of TNT, right?
00:48:49.440 When you say he's reckless, when you say he's reckless, he's got Lindsey Graham over there saying, he said, oh, President Trump says you have no cards.
00:48:58.620 You have no cards.
00:48:59.480 But the House and the Senate are about to do their own round of sanctions.
00:49:03.560 And the Ukrainian people are sitting there looking at one of the senior most hawks, neocons in the Senate.
00:49:10.440 I mean, what are they to believe?
00:49:11.500 They see a senior American.
00:49:12.900 With the situation in Wiesbaden where you have that base where the New York Times reported German intelligence and American intelligence were running the Ukraine war, if the Russians do target Berlin with non-nuclear forces, just those rockets, kind of a, hey, you got us, we'll get you, does that trigger Article 5 in NATO that everyone must come to the common defense of Germany, ma'am?
00:49:40.080 Absolutely, that exactly.
00:49:43.840 So that's how we are getting dragged in.
00:49:47.460 We are already there.
00:49:48.760 Not only that, right now on Ukrainian territory, not only there are 12 CIA bases with U.S. intelligence officers, military officers training Ukrainians how to kill Russians, there's also a NATO combat training center in something called the Avotov, which is a military industrial complex that is also,
00:50:10.080 filled with U.S., filled with U.S. forces, we have New York National Guard, we have Tennessee, we have Florida National Guard rotating and, again, training Ukrainians.
00:50:21.360 So if you strike that base, right, if Russia does, even though Ukraine technically is not a part of NATO, so Article 5 does not necessarily get triggered, but because lives will be lost to European NATO personnel and U.S. personnel,
00:50:42.400 so it kind of gets very squirrely, so Putin might go up to that one, because there's no, he likes to be kind of very, like, nebulous, he likes to be very precise in terms of, like, following the doctrine, but that would give him the opportunity, so that's the concern.
00:50:58.600 But bottom line, neither the United States nor Russia wants to go into nuclear war. Putin does not want nuclear war, because there'll be no winners. He said it many, many times.
00:51:08.720 But as every single war game showed us, it happens unintentionally due to misinterpretation and miscalculation.
00:51:18.600 You actually brought up Lindsey Graham. That's another loose cannon who keeps saying how Putin cannot remain in power. He's this, he's that.
00:51:28.120 But remember, the Russians have been watching Washington's playbook for a quarter of a century. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, beginning all the way with Yugoslavia.
00:51:39.720 How do they interpret Lindsey Graham's language? Regime change. They think that we are coming after Putin, especially after the assassination attempt.
00:51:49.580 So, do we think Putin is just going to sit and wait? No. So, unintentionally, something is going to happen. Something will get triggered.
00:52:00.720 Every single war starts that way. Nobody wants it, but we get it now.
00:52:05.420 The law of unintended consequences. Rebecca, real quickly, social media, where do people go to get your information and your writings?
00:52:11.480 I'm on X and on all social media, true social. I gotcha, rumble, YouTube. My handle is at Rebecca0132, which is a code for an intelligence officer.
00:52:24.200 I put regular updates. Thank you very much, Steve, for having me. It's important we get the truth out.
00:52:30.080 You are one of very few outlets that are letting the truth coming out.
00:52:35.040 I'm pretty much canceled from legacy media. Fox News, CNN, don't cover this. Americans have no idea how close we are to nuclear war.
00:52:44.840 Rebecca Koffler, thank you very much.
00:52:48.100 The law of unintended consequences, folks.
00:52:53.760 Every war, when you get inexorably drawn in.
00:52:56.260 We're going to the three-island chain. We've got Khloe Pascal.
00:53:03.060 We've got Mina Kim in South Korea.
00:53:06.260 Costello's going to stick around.
00:53:08.360 The Third World War is upon us.
00:53:12.440 Now, what are we going to do about it?
00:53:15.960 Are we helpless?
00:53:17.240 I don't think so.
00:53:18.580 All next in the war room.
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