Bannon's War Room - Episode 4534： New CBO Score On The Big Beautiful Bill; AI Lying To Their Maker

00:00:00.000 his frustrations over his trade war with China after accusing China of violating an agreement

00:00:05.040 to temporarily roll back tariffs. Overnight, the president posted this. I like President

00:00:10.400 Xi of China, always have and always will, but he is very tough and extremely hard to

00:00:16.020 make a deal with. That jab coming as a U.S. ambassador is in China meeting with that

00:00:21.760 country's top diplomat. Oh, yeah. I mean, Doge created chaos. The cuts that it had were

00:00:27.100 to federal employees and to USAID. We're seeing a rescissions package sent to Hill that's

00:00:32.600 targeting public broadcasting, for instance. These are not major items. Let's be real about

00:00:37.120 it. Doge didn't really do anything when it comes to long-term deficits and debt. It was

00:00:40.700 a failure. It was an objective failure, and I think that's probably feeding what Elon's

00:00:45.720 doing right now. The other thing I think is obviously worth noting is that if people really

00:00:50.980 did care about the deficit and debt with respect to this bill, Elon is not focused on the real

00:00:57.060 driver here, which is that it's an extension of the Trump tax cuts. And that's what's driving

00:01:02.140 the deficit and debt in this bill. I mean, they make cuts to Medicaid in the form of,

00:01:06.380 you know, $700, $800 billion. It's the tax cuts that are costing, but no one on the right is

00:01:11.680 talking about, well, maybe we shouldn't extend these taxes, or maybe we should raise the rates

00:01:15.800 a little bit on the high-end earners, which is what Steve Bannon had actually suggested but was

00:01:19.280 dismissed. That's not part of this conversation. So some of this is a bit of kabuki, I think.

00:01:23.480 I think the Elon Musk thing really caught the president by surprise, and I hear he is furious,

00:01:29.280 but I think he's so smart to keep his powder dry because it just plays into what critics would have

00:01:36.640 to say. The right can't get out of their own way. Instead, just you have a goal. Pass it.

00:01:42.500 Elon Musk is not in the Senate or the House. Don't worry about it.

00:01:45.740 And I offer a different perspective, Ainsley. As someone who is supportive of the president's

00:01:51.080 agenda, I am upset with Congress right now. I don't blame the president for the big, beautiful

00:01:56.820 bill. I blame Congress because they go to their constituents every single election,

00:02:02.040 and they say they're going to cut spending. Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.

00:02:05.000 And it doesn't seem like there's a willingness to do that.

00:02:08.940 Iran's supreme leader is making it clear what his response is to any proposal by the U.S. that Iran

00:02:15.260 give up its uranium enrichment program in return for a nuclear deal. The response, a hard no.

00:02:23.520 On Iranian state TV, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said this about the U.S., quote,

00:02:28.680 they cannot do a damn thing in this matter. CNN has also learned the Trump administration has shifted

00:02:34.120 its position on the issue of uranium enrichment in its new proposal.

00:02:38.680 We've been talking about the so-called July package for a long time, meaning that the South

00:02:44.160 Korean government has agreed with the United States to agree something before the beginning

00:02:49.880 of July or mid-July, before the United States finalizes their tariff schedule and their postponement

00:02:57.180 of the tariff implementation. So the time, according to that schedule, is pretty pressing. But I'm not

00:03:02.820 exactly sure how far or how fast the Li government would like to go on that. Just watching European

00:03:09.300 allies, for instance, and China and other players as well. Li has made it quite clear that he doesn't

00:03:15.340 want to rush to make a good deal. And he does not want to make Korea as one of the first countries 0.54

00:03:20.720 to make any kind of deal with Washington. So with that strategy in mind, it looks like his team is

00:03:25.400 going to try to buy as much time as they can. Okay. It seems like that's the strategy both at home and

00:03:31.080 abroad then, to sort of go slowly and to try and work things out. We know that China has offered a

00:03:35.920 congratulatory message to President Li for winning the election. How do you see that relationship?

00:03:42.040 Well, definitely most of the observers seem to be seeing upswing curve in terms of the relationship

00:03:47.480 between Seoul and Beijing simply because of the fact that it has hit the bottom and has remained

00:03:54.320 there for a long time, for the past several years, at least since 2016. So it only has a way up, a lot

00:04:00.660 of people believe. And Li has been making quite clear that he's going to work on improving the

00:04:04.820 relationship with Beijing, not only kind of like over a broadened schedule, but a scale, but rather kind

00:04:10.620 of gradually under the surface over time, not overriding United States or anything like that. But still,

00:04:17.040 he has maintained the firm position that Korea deserves better relationship with Beijing. So

00:04:22.420 it's going to come step by step. Also, once again, in a more gradual patterns, perhaps.

00:04:27.960 And just coming back to some domestic issues, we know the president, he won this election,

00:04:32.040 but he won it with 49%, meaning that more than half of the country didn't vote for him. How do you

00:04:38.140 think he's going to address that going forward to try and bring it sort of a uniting kind of message to

00:04:42.580 the country? In fact, that was exactly his first words, uniting the country, bridging the gap between

00:04:48.140 the two different groups. And one group supported him, half of the nation and the other half of the

00:04:53.220 nation chose not to support him. So he said, you know, that's going to be his top priority. But

00:04:58.100 it's an important agenda, but we know it's nearly impossible to address the issue within a short time.

00:05:03.500 So we'll be all close to watching what kind of steps we will be taking. There are all different ideas,

00:05:08.600 but at the same time, this is the toughest issue. If it's an easy issue, it won't be around

00:05:12.600 for this long. So a lot of heads will come in to join him, to come up with ideas, and many eyes will

00:05:19.520 be closely watching.

00:05:23.360 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on

00:05:31.760 these people. The reason I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people,

00:05:37.720 the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've

00:05:41.600 tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to

00:05:44.520 happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul,

00:05:51.660 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:05:59.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:05.260 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:06:13.060 It's Wednesday, 4 June, in the year of our Lord, 2025. You heard there at the end about the

00:06:19.980 Korea situation we've been covering. The winner got 48.5% or 49% of the vote. South Korea trusting

00:06:27.920 into turmoil with Lee's sweeping election victory. Sweeping election victory. And right

00:06:36.280 there, for those in the State Department not paying attention or the White House have not

00:06:40.420 been paying attention to this, they gave two FUs. Number one, we're going to take our time

00:06:45.980 on a, you know, we're not going to be the first guys and we're going to take our time on a

00:06:48.620 trade deal. President Trump put another ultimatum, I think, last night, or Besant or Lutnik. Hey,

00:06:54.400 we need them all in, like, immediately. The new, they're under new ownership in South Korea. And

00:07:00.100 yeah, we're going to, we're going to have under the table, we got step by step, better relationships

00:07:05.760 with Beijing. Everybody that was asleep on the watch in this thing, payback is going to be bad,

00:07:11.980 folks. Going to be bad. Just one of many things. I've said many times that June 15th, which we're

00:07:20.760 approaching, what, 11 days away, is the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the

00:07:27.220 golden escalator. And that all of that, all 10 years, everything you've been through in supporting

00:07:32.260 President Trump, all the MAGA movement, everything President Trump's been through, all the turmoil,

00:07:36.060 all the highs and all the very deep lows and the amazing comeback. It's all a preamble to what's

00:07:43.700 happening now. The convergence of these crises. And let me be blunt. From the Eurasian landmass deep

00:07:52.200 in Russia and Ukraine, to the mullahs in Tehran, to the political class on Capitol Hill, the Lords of

00:08:00.400 Easy Money on Wall Street, the tech oligarchs, the Beijing and the Chinese Communist Party,

00:08:05.920 which he's got a call with Xi on Friday after Mertz comes here with the Germans tomorrow.

00:08:14.300 They're calling bluffs. So now it's time. Do we got the cards or do we not have the cards? And how do

00:08:21.340 we play the cards? And how are we going to have President Trump's back? This Elon thing is exactly

00:08:28.120 like I told you. This $9 billion, I'll put it up later, the $9 billion, there's no fraud in there.

00:08:35.380 There's no waste. And that was all approved by Congress. Yeah, it's outrageous. It should go

00:08:38.540 away. But that this has all been identified for years. Where's the fraud? Where's the $1 trillion

00:08:42.540 of fraud? Elon got the political class off the hook. That's how you get the big, beautiful bill. 0.98

00:08:50.660 Because it turned out in Social Security and Medicaid, show me where the fraud is.

00:08:54.580 Show me where the doge fraud is. Not $9 billion of programmatic cuts that people have identified

00:09:02.600 for years. Every one of those 11 items, including PBS and NPR. And I realize Russ Vogt is doing this

00:09:10.400 as a test case. I got it. And there's not enthusiasm up there to do it as a test case. And he's going to

00:09:15.520 do pocket rescissions after that. What does it mean? It means you don't have the votes to codify these

00:09:19.840 cuts. But those cuts, I have dug into what they're talking about. I haven't seen any fraud

00:09:26.380 in Social Security, the three and a half minutes President Trump went through in his State of the

00:09:33.680 Union or his joint Congress or Medicaid or the Defense Department. Defense Department's a festering

00:09:39.980 sore of waste fraud and abuse. Where? Show me the money. Where is the beef?

00:09:46.600 We are in a crisis. And yes,

00:09:50.040 was it Sam Stein said, yeah, abandoned. It was dismissed.

00:09:53.380 Yo, dude, as far as one thing, if you want to stop the dead bomb,

00:09:58.900 Elon and the guys on Capitol Hill,

00:10:01.100 you're going to have to raise taxes.

00:10:04.720 The wealthy can't get an extension of the tax cut.

00:10:07.200 That's got to go to the middle class and the working class. 1.00

00:10:10.380 That has to be extended. It has to be made permanent.

00:10:14.220 At 40 percent, the top bracket of 40 percent, you pick them. 0.95

00:10:18.360 That's got to go to 39, go back to 30, snap back to 39 and a half percent and go to 40 percent.

00:10:23.420 The math simply doesn't work. Have I not said this two billion times?

00:10:27.300 And of course, all the all the lackeys for the wealthy.

00:10:33.440 Right. Here's a dead bomb. 0.99

00:10:34.780 And Ron John and other people are working on on, I think, quite smart changes that can be made to the big, beautiful bill.

00:10:41.060 But now it's in basically turmoil and chaos.

00:10:43.180 And this gets back to Polly Pockets, kind of tapping things along.

00:10:48.140 And now it's coming all unwound at the exact moment.

00:10:51.600 The convergence of all of it, the kinetic part of the Third World War.

00:10:56.180 The the whole border situation and the deportations and what's happening in the courts to call President Trump's bluff.

00:11:03.300 That's what they're doing. They're saying, OK, you're coming out.

00:11:05.280 You got these Article two powers.

00:11:06.560 Mike Davis, Steve Bannon yammering on all the time.

00:11:08.840 You got these Article two powers. Prove it, because we don't think you do.

00:11:14.680 We're going to delay is to deny.

00:11:16.880 We're going to get our bluff called there.

00:11:18.580 What are we going to do?

00:11:20.100 I say go full. Go number.

00:11:21.980 Step one, go full President Abraham Lincoln.

00:11:25.340 And number two, if they respond, they respond to that.

00:11:27.720 Go Andrew Jackson.

00:11:29.120 It's very simple.

00:11:30.820 The same with the Third World War.

00:11:33.820 And right now, Lindsey Graham's over there.

00:11:35.720 He's skipping around France and he's skipping around Germany and he's flitting around.

00:11:40.120 Right. He's getting page one what he's got to do.

00:11:43.500 He's basically telling people, hey, he's calling Trump's bluff.

00:11:46.420 He says, I've got a veto proof way for us to extend this war against the Russian people. 0.98

00:11:53.500 That's what.

00:11:55.380 You've got the mullahs and most importantly, get Beijing. 0.61

00:11:58.280 I don't think she's burning up the phone lines to have that call on Friday.

00:12:04.160 I just don't.

00:12:05.360 President Trump comes out with a tweet and says they're tough to deal with, no doubt.

00:12:09.300 No doubt.

00:12:10.080 And they're not going to do a deal right now.

00:12:12.140 I think that's pretty obvious.

00:12:13.860 They're hurting.

00:12:14.600 They're getting crushed.

00:12:15.380 But like I said, hey, they'll make the Chinese people eat grass for two or three years. 1.00

00:12:23.800 So we've got Joe Allen.

00:12:25.620 He's at a conference on artificial intelligence.

00:12:27.700 We've got to get to Captain Fennell.

00:12:29.160 We've got the we've got Forrest, Roy and Ava are going to join us.

00:12:33.600 We've got a lot of Tiananmen we're going to talk about and bring it up to date of why that event and what led to that event in the American response, that event.

00:12:41.420 Why today we're in the position of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:12:44.740 But just look at this and all the front finally in the front pages, the moneyed interest.

00:12:49.360 They're all hey, they're they're they're loving it.

00:12:51.860 I'm sweeping victory.

00:12:52.880 Got to get for sweeping victory.

00:12:55.260 Sweet.

00:12:55.560 Look at that.

00:12:56.000 They're all happy and people waving flags.

00:12:58.380 And and what the guy say right there in Korea?

00:13:00.900 He gave it to you.

00:13:02.700 Yeah, we're not going to be we got a July package.

00:13:05.140 We're going to come back to you in July.

00:13:06.780 President Trump said, hey, we want to get deals now.

00:13:09.100 We're doing a call for all deals.

00:13:13.240 And what they say, as soon as the guy's elected, yeah, you know, I don't know.

00:13:17.260 We'll get back to you in July.

00:13:19.020 Right.

00:13:19.680 Oh, by the way, step by step under the table.

00:13:23.740 We're going to make things better with Beijing. 0.90

00:13:25.900 They are controlled by Beijing.

00:13:27.860 The way they won in stealing that election was by Beijing.

00:13:31.600 The Chinese Communist Party, political warfare at the ballot box.

00:13:36.120 You've seen that before.

00:13:37.140 You don't think they had anything to do with 2020?

00:13:39.100 Don't think so.

00:13:41.340 Oh, by the way, while we're on it, Grassley drops a couple of bombshells yesterday about

00:13:46.020 the FBI and the traditional Catholics, which started with an investigation of my parents 0.66

00:13:50.500 church in Richmond, Virginia, now looked at as much broader.

00:13:55.240 Ray purged himself.

00:13:57.180 Where's the investigations?

00:13:58.680 Why is Brenner?

00:13:59.620 Why is Brennan walking around?

00:14:01.480 Why is Clapper walking around?

00:14:02.840 Why is Ray walking around?

00:14:04.080 Why is Fauci walking around?

00:14:05.340 It's time to get serious and man up.

00:14:08.720 On the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the escalator to change the direction

00:14:13.680 of the United States of America, to reclaim our republic and to change the world.

00:14:17.880 Like I said, the next 100, 200 days, the foundational element of the permanent legacy of President Trump.

00:14:26.900 And they're coming at him from every angle, every angle.

00:14:30.200 So now more than ever, we need to be absolutely maniacally focused on what has to be done

00:14:37.480 and how it's going to be done and when it's going to be done.

00:14:40.180 In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. 0.99

00:14:50.640 Short commercial break.

00:14:52.400 Massive show today.

00:14:53.700 Stick around.

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00:16:27.040 We're a Series A startup building on-device, air-gapped AI for the warfighter.

00:16:31.720 Effectively, what we've built here is a, think of it like a ChatGPT-style application that runs air-gapped on-device.

00:16:38.100 And we have different MOS-specific adapters that give you very personalized outputs.

00:16:42.100 And then this can also operate in denied environments.

00:16:44.280 So a lot of our troops and our warfighters are in contested environments like Ukraine and elsewhere.

00:16:49.280 So you can actually bring all the capabilities of LLMs and ChatGPT locally and have it be completely private and secure.

00:16:55.180 Right?

00:16:55.400 Like this technology is still very early.

00:16:57.200 But we do a number of things to actually mitigate against hallucinations.

00:17:00.400 So one is the base model itself that we've trained is trained on military-specific data.

00:17:04.960 So it's going to give you more military-specific answers.

00:17:07.500 So given that it has legs, many people know that Spock can dance.

00:17:11.340 So we can do a little demo dance here just to show off a few dance moves.

00:17:15.760 This is sort of just having fun with the robot.

00:17:18.380 How long before will we start seeing militarized robot dogs?

00:17:21.960 Well, we do have a policy against weaponization of our robots.

00:17:26.620 And that's right in our terms and conditions of sales.

00:17:28.960 If you buy the robot from us, you're not permitted to weaponize the robot or to use it to harm or intimidate any person.

00:17:34.200 We do have military customers using our robot to keep people safe.

00:17:38.540 Awesome.

00:17:38.940 So we designed this little two-inch drone specifically for the conference.

00:17:43.760 We've got a race and maneuver competition going on here hosted by SESP and USNBA to really pit Navy, Marine Corps, Army, Air Force, College, High School.

00:17:56.340 Basically everybody in the hobby, in the pathway of flying these FPV drones against each other.

00:18:03.020 What about AI versus the human?

00:18:04.720 Are you guys doing that at all?

00:18:05.600 So there's not at this booth specifically, but there's a lot of interesting stuff coming out with AI and specifically these purpose-built, suitable systems.

00:18:13.780 How long before the AI is outperforming all human pilots, you think?

00:18:17.840 I don't know.

00:18:18.800 I might have a controversial opinion on that.

00:18:20.520 I think that there's always a place for the human pilot.

00:18:22.860 Okay.

00:18:26.780 Artificial intelligence.

00:18:28.100 Remember, this is all inextricably linked with everything that is going on, folks, including this.

00:18:33.460 I don't quite get this Palantir thing, but we're working to get to the bottom and make sure that they don't have all of your information.

00:18:41.240 Also, MTG, you know, she said, hey, in the bill, the 10-year, which we've highlighted from the beginning, but even worse in that section is where they take Joe Allen, the executive order that we're the only people to call out under Biden a couple of years ago that said whole of government is going to revolve around artificial intelligence.

00:18:59.680 Now, they covered that by lying to people and said, hey, this is the moonshot to save cancer, to kill cancer.

00:19:06.640 That's the cover.

00:19:07.500 It's always some paraplegic or it's always somebody brain dead or it's, you know, cured cancer.

00:19:12.440 It's always some happy face in the front.

00:19:15.120 This is what we're going to do.

00:19:16.140 And I'm not saying that those things maybe aren't potentially possible.

00:19:21.100 Okay.

00:19:21.540 We don't know yet.

00:19:22.460 But what I do know is the artificial intelligence has a – and actually has got this story up today – has a habit of maybe lying to the humans, right, misinforming the humans.

00:19:36.200 And, yes, this is an early stage.

00:19:38.180 But, Joe Allen, you're at an Eric Schmidt conference.

00:19:41.660 And, folks, let me be blunt.

00:19:43.600 Joe Allen, correct me if I'm –

00:19:44.940 I just lost him.

00:19:46.000 Okay, fine.

00:19:46.680 Okay.

00:19:47.460 Just let me know when he's back up.

00:19:48.700 He's over at the conference.

00:19:49.640 Probably knocked him down.

00:19:50.300 Everything's revolved around the arms industry.

00:19:53.660 Everything's revolved around immediately getting all of this into the weapons systems.

00:19:58.420 This is why what's happening in Ukraine is so dangerous and in Russia. 0.98

00:20:02.220 That was all driven by artificial intelligence on those drones, the ability to strike in and hit part of the nuclear triad of the Russians, which, like I said, Curtis LeMay couldn't even – in his biggest fantasy couldn't even think of.

00:20:16.160 Captain Fennell, you're here.

00:20:17.240 This is Ford Jr. in the United States of Tiananmen Square.

00:20:22.500 Right now, you saw President Trump put up, hey, it's tough to deal with Beijing.

00:20:26.740 You saw the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times.

00:20:29.940 They couldn't be happier that the progressive party that's part of the Beijing's because the fix is in.

00:20:37.380 The global capital markets and the lords of easy money and big tech and the big corporations, they're business partners with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:20:47.520 They benefit from the slave labor of Lao Baixing in China. 0.93

00:20:51.060 This is as obvious as the nose on your face.

00:20:53.480 Look at this.

00:20:53.960 Wall Street Journal handcuffed this thing. 0.95

00:20:55.320 Look at the happy people in Korea.

00:20:57.300 They're happy.

00:20:58.180 They're waving flags.

00:20:59.600 They're happy.

00:21:00.100 Look at this.

00:21:01.460 The guy gets 49%.

00:21:02.760 Look at this.

00:21:03.440 Look at the headline.

00:21:04.420 Sweeping election victory.

00:21:06.080 Don't talk about the voter fraud.

00:21:08.540 Don't talk about your concerns.

00:21:09.400 Look, everybody's happy.

00:21:10.840 They're all wearing blue.

00:21:11.720 They're all happy.

00:21:12.720 Of course, the spokesman comes out and says, yeah, you know, on that tariff thing that President Trump has given us a couple of months on and wants a response.

00:21:19.400 I don't know.

00:21:20.480 We may have a July package, but we're not going to be first.

00:21:23.100 We got to think about it.

00:21:24.020 Oh, by the way, our priority is getting our relationship with Beijing correct.

00:21:29.660 Captain Fennell, we're on the cusp of being drawn in to a basically kinetic conflict on the Eurasian landmass, and right now Korea has fallen.

00:21:41.860 It's not Steve Bannon saying this.

00:21:43.740 It is the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hexeth, in Singapore on Saturday said, get ready for an imminent threat and an imminent attack on Taiwan, sir.

00:21:55.060 Yes, Steve, the election results in the Korean Peninsula and South Korea are very concerning, and I understand the implications, and it's part of Beijing's grand strategy, the Chinese Communist Party strategy to drive the United States out of Asia. 0.86

00:22:15.600 And by basically taking South Korea and putting them under their wing again, not again, but at this time, they are basically saying, we're going to challenge what the Secretary said in Singapore.

00:22:28.060 He also said he wanted to prioritize forward basing.

00:22:31.820 So now this is going to come up, the next shoe to drop in terms of military is there going to be a big pressure on the South Korean government to push the United States military out and come up with some kind of deal with North Korea.

00:22:44.400 That's their goal, is to push us out.

00:22:46.920 Over my shoulder here, my left shoulder, this is today is the 83rd anniversary of the start of the Battle of Midway.

00:22:54.240 And in that battle, if we had lost that battle, it would have changed the outcome of history for the last 83 years.

00:23:00.380 We are in a similar situation where China is pushing out and expanding in the Northeast Asia, into Korea, threatening Japan, threatening the southern Japanese islands, obviously threatening Taiwan.

00:23:14.820 They have two aircraft carriers out at sea right now, one in the South China Sea, one east of the Philippines, the Liaoning, in its farthest operating area since she's been operational.

00:23:24.460 And they have a third carrier up in the Bohai doing sea trials.

00:23:29.120 And they're pushing out, threatening the Philippines, threatening our interest, making investment, as we heard from Cleo Pascal, into the Micronesian islands and establishing bases there, just like the Japanese did. 1.00

00:23:41.880 So we are in a very critical situation right now.

00:23:44.300 And as you use the term, tapping along isn't going to cut it anymore.

00:23:48.800 We've got to stop tapping along, and we've got to wake up and do something different.

00:23:53.060 I've been writing and talking about, at this point, it should be time to think about moving at least half of the Atlantic fleet from the Atlantic Ocean through the canal and into the Pacific.

00:24:05.180 And I know it's controversial, and some people won't agree with that.

00:24:07.920 Whoa, baby, now you're talking.

00:24:09.320 To a Pacific fleet sailor, you're talking.

00:24:10.900 I know we've got a slight bias.

00:24:13.220 You're chief intel for the Pacific fleet.

00:24:16.260 I was a Pacific fleet destroyer.

00:24:17.620 We're not ready in the Pacific.

00:24:18.460 We are not ready.

00:24:20.620 Hang over a second.

00:24:21.580 I know it.

00:24:23.780 You're going to hang around this morning.

00:24:24.960 We've got a lot to get to.

00:24:25.740 Real quickly, in Midway, and I'm going to go back to Joe Allen who got him up at AI, which is all about defense.

00:24:31.400 In both Pearl Harbor and Midway, given the great equipment the Japanese had after this major naval buildup,

00:24:40.760 in the heat of battle, particularly in Midway, it was not simply the valor and courage of the American pilots and Admiral Spruance and the carrier battle groups.

00:24:53.120 But in both situations, at Pearl and at Midway, the Japanese high command at fighting the ship kind of panicked and paused and made some bad decisions.

00:25:04.220 I keep saying that about the Chinese. 0.96

00:25:05.640 They've never had to fight the ship.

00:25:06.800 They've never had to be in combined arms naval warfare when the balloon goes up.

00:25:11.300 It gets quite intense and quite confusing.

00:25:14.280 Can artificial intelligence take away the advantage we just had from, you know, the Royal Navy handed down to the American Navy,

00:25:21.860 the fact that we fought in the Pacific, that we train our fleets, even given how bad seamanship is today and all the basic issues we have with that,

00:25:30.200 that our major advantage of actually having done this and pass that down from generation to generation and they and they've never fought at sea ever.

00:25:39.420 I mean, they have less experience than Japanese had in in the in 1941, 42.

00:25:44.980 Does artificial intelligence take away that advantage, sir?

00:25:49.080 It can.

00:25:50.420 I mean, one of the reasons for the victory at Midway was the intelligence work that was done by Commander Joe Rochefort

00:25:58.400 and his team of radio intelligence cryptographers at Station Hypo there at Pearl Harbor,

00:26:03.580 being able to read the Japanese Imperial fleets communications and understanding where they were going.

00:26:10.000 We didn't read all of it, but we read enough that we could know where they were going to and they were going to Midway.

00:26:14.220 And that was the that was the thing that set us up for victory beyond what the our pilots did and all the valor and courage that they exhibited.

00:26:21.600 And that, you know, from four to seven June 1942.

00:26:25.000 But it was intelligence. So here we are now, 83 years later,

00:26:28.680 and we're looking at things like artificial intelligence and and drones and the replicator and the hellscape initiative.

00:26:35.920 These are the things that are going to help us defeat the PRC and the PLA Navy in a war at sea.

00:26:41.340 But we've got to have capital ships as well. It's not an either or thing.

00:26:45.780 We need to have the ships. As we've discussed, this is a big ocean.

00:26:49.480 It's vast. It's huge. And the Chinese are venturing out farther and farther to the east, operating near Guam, 0.96

00:26:56.420 operating near Hawaii, possibly with their submarines and even further.

00:27:00.180 So we have to be ready for a war at sea and we can use artificial intelligence and our in our normal intelligence,

00:27:08.060 if we're willing to use it and listen to what the evidence is telling us.

00:27:13.000 Captain, hang on for a second. We got we're stacked up already, but we're going to get to all of it.

00:27:16.860 And this goes back to also the budget, the trillion dollars.

00:27:21.300 I'm for a defense budget cut. You're not going to do that.

00:27:24.420 I'm not so sure how you're going to move things in a massive tax increase or at least an extension of a tax cut for the wealthy.

00:27:31.540 We got to talk to the mass CBO just came out with another report. We'll get into that.

00:27:35.900 Although Captain Fennell brings out something quite interesting that everybody we don't have time for this today,

00:27:40.300 but I commit to you that we will do a couple hours. Captain Fennell.

00:27:44.360 Now, the United States in late 1930s, early 1940s, had not just the diplomatic intelligence and cables,

00:27:52.800 which is everything we talk about at Pearl Harbor.

00:27:55.280 They also had the Imperial Japanese fleet intelligence.

00:27:58.980 And that makes everything that happened around Pearl Harbor quite interesting.

00:28:03.680 Not time for today, but I commit to you that we'll come back and break it all down in the future because it will like you'll go.

00:28:09.680 What? What did we actually know?

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00:29:54.500 CBO just came out with some additional bad numbers on the bill.

00:29:58.660 We'll get to all that.

00:29:59.300 CBO doesn't look at this the correct way because it's a reconciliation bill, which is a gimmick.

00:30:06.880 That's a gimmick.

00:30:08.240 This is why we're doing an appropriation process.

00:30:10.120 The whole thing is to make it so confusing that you get tired and said, hey, I got to go play golf or, you know, let's go to the club and have a drink or I got to go back to work.

00:30:20.140 I can't focus on this anymore.

00:30:21.180 The system is set up to obfuscate, not to make it clear.

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00:30:29.120 It's not all that much tougher if you want to just do cash in, cash out.

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00:30:51.320 Sell bonds to yourself and trash this currency even more.

00:30:58.260 Artificial intelligence is supposed to be the panacea.

00:31:01.660 I think a wise man once sent this, Joe Allen.

00:31:06.100 I don't want to quote myself, but every new technology, if you look in history, the very first thing on every technology from the time we found fire,

00:31:15.240 the first use of because it's human nature, it's always how does it help us in war, right?

00:31:23.380 How does it help us in aggression?

00:31:25.460 What are you seeing at this Eric Schmidt Artificial Intelligence Conference you've attended for two days, sir?

00:31:33.100 Yes, Steve, I'm here at the AI Expo for National Competitiveness, and that is the key.

00:31:39.480 How do Americans stay competitive in a high-stakes, high-tech environment, especially in regards to warfare?

00:31:49.720 As you would imagine, just given the organizers and the name of the conference,

00:31:55.300 the belief that you hear again and again repeated is that AI is essential to America's competitiveness,

00:32:03.320 but also dominance in regard to China, in regard to Russia.

00:32:07.840 You hear a lot of talk about Ukraine, and as we've discussed many times,

00:32:13.540 Ukraine was a kind of testing ground, a laboratory for many of the technologies we see here.

00:32:19.820 The three that I think are probably the most important are, of course, drone technology.

00:32:26.000 I'm looking right now at a drone arena where they're doing drone races.

00:32:30.480 They're pitting marine pilots against Air Force pilots, against Army pilots.

00:32:35.160 And, of course, on the battlefield, that translates into kamikaze drones, massive death tolls.

00:32:42.460 Another is the AI agent that soldiers will be.

00:32:47.260 They already are, but in the future, they will be carrying computers with AI agents that are able to give them real-time intelligence,

00:32:55.180 or for soldiers that have not yet had the requisite training or may lack knowledge on, say, medical treatment

00:33:03.280 or how many soldiers you're going to need in order to take on an enemy.

00:33:10.440 They're going to have a kind of AI companion, an AI subordinate that is an expert to tell them what they don't already know.

00:33:19.960 And last but not least, Steve, we got to meet Spot, the Boston Dynamics robot dog.

00:33:27.040 Boston Dynamics has a policy that they will not allow their robotics to be used for aggression.

00:33:33.060 But, of course, one of their big contractors is the U.S. Department of Defense.

00:33:37.660 They use the robots to decommission bombs, to scout areas that human soldiers might be in danger in.

00:33:45.160 But as we've seen from videos coming out of China, coming out of Russia, our adversaries have different ideas

00:33:52.540 and plan to use them to carry machine guns and, of course, lay waste to the enemy.

00:33:59.160 But correct me if I'm wrong.

00:34:01.220 All this discussion about the jobs apocalypse of white-collar, everything we're talking about, the dangers of AI,

00:34:07.580 that it may have incredible upside, but you're also looking potentially to the abyss,

00:34:12.020 particularly how this thing is being rolled out with no controls whatsoever.

00:34:16.060 MTGs this morning, you know, waking into the fact that the bill's got no stake and come in the middle of this.

00:34:21.600 Is it not because they've given us a – they said, oh, we've had a Sputnik moment,

00:34:27.760 and now anybody that stands up and says anything about, hey, we've got to think about how we actually control this technology,

00:34:33.940 we're going to lose the arms race to the Chinese, that it's all about the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese. 0.96

00:34:40.760 The Chinese, if they get to be at all a lead on artificial intelligence, where people say we have some sort of lead, 0.96

00:34:47.180 that if we are to slow this down for any reason, that you're basically putting the central national security of this country in jeopardy.

00:34:56.780 Is that the theme coming out of that, the implied theme or even the in-your-face theme coming out of this Eric Schmidt conference?

00:35:03.760 Because, folks, it ain't random that Eric Schmidt's having a conference on artificial intelligence

00:35:08.380 and having it in the heart of the imperial capital during the budget process when people are saying,

00:35:13.680 hey, maybe we cut the defense budget by, you know, $100 billion or so.

00:35:17.180 Joe Allen, thoughts?

00:35:18.080 Joe Allen, thoughts?

00:35:48.400 You know, if you look forward, China is just struggling to keep up.

00:35:51.100 But, of course, if we stop, and I think that this is an argument that has to be taken very seriously,

00:35:56.400 if we stop, China keeps moving ahead. 0.93

00:35:59.660 America falls behind.

00:36:01.100 Next thing you know, we are speaking to robots who are speaking back to us in Mandarin.

00:36:05.700 So, with Eric Schmidt's arguments, he made a very strange argument yesterday,

00:36:13.060 one that I've never heard him put forward before.

00:36:15.660 And it is that one of the big dangers of driving forward this AI race is that the first movers are going to have the advantage in any country that feels like they're going to be left behind, not just by the AIs that we see here from Palantir, from Meta and some of the startups, but the future AI that he envisions, artificial general intelligence in the very near future and then artificial super intelligence and AI that is smarter than the sum total of human beings.

00:36:44.440 Eric Schmidt says that that is, A, happening right now, B, should happen and should be driven forward by U.S. companies, but C, once that begins to be apparent to our adversaries, they would have every incentive to bomb our data centers to ensure that we didn't end up on top of the cyborg theocracy.

00:37:07.080 Wow. Folks, take your number two pencil out. Third World War, Kinetic Park, coming to a region near you shortly. 0.72

00:37:18.780 Joe, I know you've got to bounce. You've got a big event today down in Texas.

00:37:26.420 I want to go back to this executive order, the one that you unearthed.

00:37:30.600 You really drilled down. When Biden signed this executive order back in his regime that talked about the moonshot and we're going to cure cancer,

00:37:39.180 that when you went through it, that entire executive order was to have a whole of government movement to make artificial intelligence

00:37:46.200 the central driving force of the United States government and total interconnectivity. Is that correct, sir?

00:37:54.940 You know, Steve, you have to tease apart the two executive orders that we covered.

00:38:00.480 The one, the cancer moonshot, was very aggressive on accelerating genetic technologies ostensibly in order to cure cancer,

00:38:09.940 although a lot of kind of transhumanist language in it. The second executive order on artificial intelligence,

00:38:16.580 absolutely, as that was signed and came out, you began to hear Mayorkas talking about the use of artificial intelligence in the Department of Defense.

00:38:25.720 A lot of the language in that Biden EO was about trying to restrain the negative sides of AI like racism,

00:38:32.940 sexism and homophobia or economic disparities, but it also talked about incorporating it into the government.

00:38:39.460 I'm sorry to report, though, Steve, that under Trump, basically they removed the restrictions that I think were pretty valueless anyway

00:38:47.620 and are now going full bore ahead to especially with Palantir and the merging of digital identities across agencies,

00:38:56.640 the IRS, HHS, DHS, that under Trump right now, the acceleration of AI is actually going full steam.

00:39:07.000 Hold on, this is what I want to get to. In this bill, in the big, beautiful bill, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:39:11.800 MTG brings up the fact of the states, the 10 years in the states, but even more insidious in this bill

00:39:17.720 is the fact that they've codified into now law that this is going to, it's not an executive order anymore.

00:39:24.480 Haven't they taken the parts of that executive order and put it into this big, beautiful bill

00:39:29.480 where this is now going to become the central thing?

00:39:31.320 This is kind of the aspect where Palantir is going to be able to drive off of, sir?

00:39:38.200 Yes, and as you were just mentioning earlier, I think maybe the most insidious part of this,

00:39:45.140 it's just right in your face, that over time, states are going to need to regulate AI.

00:39:52.140 They're going to need to have policies to protect citizens from the downsides of this technology.

00:39:57.140 In the big, beautiful bill under the Department of Commerce section,

00:40:01.720 you have a 10-year moratorium on all states regulating AI.

00:40:06.760 As I say, it's this under Trump, the acceleration is full bore.

00:40:10.640 By the way, I might mention, if you haven't seen Mountainhead, I think it's on HBO or Netflix,

00:40:16.980 one of these things, if you haven't seen Mountainhead, this two-hour movie about this very topic,

00:40:21.420 you should watch it from the guys that made Succession. 0.92

00:40:24.880 And I'm not a big content, I don't look at a lot of modern content because I think most of it's crap.

00:40:30.820 This is very important because they have a, I'm going to give a little disclosure,

00:40:35.180 they have a major plot twist in the middle where they start to do some things

00:40:40.720 that you in the audience may consider pretty awful.

00:40:44.500 The reason they do it is that the accused, their world breaks down into decelerationist and accelerationist.

00:40:51.880 If you're viewed as a decelerationist, which means you're not accelerating the entire,

00:40:58.460 all technology, artificial intelligence, everything,

00:41:01.180 towards the singularity, towards artificial general intelligence,

00:41:05.220 or towards transhumanism, and they're pretty blunt in this film,

00:41:08.900 if you're considered a decelerationist, you're in the chopping block,

00:41:14.300 that you don't, you're a problem, and you're a problem that's going to be dealt with.

00:41:18.820 Your argument right there about the tenure, about the states,

00:41:23.160 and particularly everybody who believes in federalism are states' rights,

00:41:28.200 Joe, they're going to laugh in your face.

00:41:29.920 They're sitting there going, we're not going to let the states get in the way.

00:41:32.300 We're in a battle for the control of the world and therefore the universe as we know it

00:41:37.880 against the Chinese Communist Party,

00:41:40.200 and we're not going to let a bunch of MAGA people in Idaho get in the way of that.

00:41:48.520 Sir, your response?

00:41:49.960 You know, that is their interest, and they've made it very clear that for them this is not just another technology.

00:42:00.080 This is the most important technology in the world leading to, as you just described, world dominance.

00:42:08.280 I think that that ambition and that drive is, at the very least, anti-social,

00:42:16.520 but I would say at its core, the transhumanist and post-humanist aims are anti-human entirely.

00:42:22.540 They want to see a world in which everything we knew as human is wiped away

00:42:27.700 or irrevocably augmented by AI, genetic engineering,

00:42:32.020 and various other sorts of invasive and non-invasive brain-computer interfaces.

00:42:37.120 It's an insane world view.

00:42:39.180 Most of us don't want it.

00:42:40.660 We need the power to, at the very least, keep it at the edge of our communities and cities.

00:42:45.740 You may not want it, bro, but you're going to get it.

00:42:48.320 Okay, we're going to break this all down.

00:42:49.860 Joe, you're fantastic.

00:42:51.080 Where do people go to get all your content?

00:42:52.820 Only Joe Allen can do this for you.

00:42:54.680 Where do they go?

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00:43:05.140 along with the adjoining counties, about the politics of AI, how to regulate a digital deity.

00:43:13.180 Only Joe Allen can deliver the heat.

00:43:16.060 Folks, we'd like to sit there and tell you it's all great,

00:43:18.480 but divine providence and God's wisdom chose you to be here in this place and time.

00:43:29.860 You've got to accept your responsibility.

00:43:32.520 You've got to accept, ultimately, the accountability to you as an individual.

00:43:36.440 Did you stand in the breach when the nation, the republic, and humankind needed you?

00:43:43.120 Short break.

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00:45:00.960 Tanks are rolling in down the main barfade wards down of the square.

00:45:13.160 Desperatic shooting.

00:45:14.760 Climatic weapons opened up.

00:45:16.220 People were diving for cover.

00:45:21.960 I'm very angry.

00:45:23.800 Many students were killed.

00:45:25.160 This shows that the government is totally mad.

00:45:55.160 Six-four of the真相.

00:46:14.440 Six-four of the英雄.

00:46:15.560 Six-four of the血. 0.93

00:46:16.900 It's absolutely not what you know today.

00:46:18.620 It's not what you know today.

00:46:19.200 Six-four of the真相.

00:46:49.200 Six-four of the sin.

00:47:10.240 Four-four of the right.

00:47:13.240 Nin't.

00:47:13.580 and that is impossible to do.

00:47:17.460 From today to this day,

00:47:19.300 the extender in China is not minimal !

00:47:43.580 We'll be right back.

00:48:13.580 We'll be right back.

00:48:43.580 We're going to address just one more time.

00:48:45.700 The two most powerful financial papers in the world, the Financial Times of London, talks about a sweeping victory for guys that got under 50 percent.

00:48:51.980 And look at all the happy faces.

00:48:53.180 People in Korea are happy.

00:48:54.340 They're happy.

00:48:55.580 Wall Street Journal, the Murdoch, same thing.

00:48:57.960 Hey, Beijing takes over.

00:48:59.300 People are happy.

00:49:00.020 You know why?

00:49:00.480 Because they're business partners in Beijing.

00:49:02.620 Let's face facts.

00:49:03.760 You want to want to want to have a hard talk?

00:49:05.460 Let's have a hard talk.

00:49:08.020 Two thirds of the 75 percent of the capital, the capital in this country, by the way, provided by you are managed by people that are business partners with them.

00:49:16.300 Forrest, Zhu, your thoughts.

00:49:20.120 Great video.

00:49:20.760 Your thoughts on all this.

00:49:21.860 And particularly the call with Xi that President Trump's going to have with Xi on Friday when President Trump puts out a tweet that says, hey, it's tough to get a deal with these guys.

00:49:30.180 It's going to be a lot tougher now.

00:49:31.400 They got Korea. 0.98

00:49:32.640 And Korea just told you they're not going to cut a trade deal.

00:49:34.740 Well, yeah, we'll get back to you in July sometimes, you know.

00:49:37.000 We'll see you in July.

00:49:38.100 Your thoughts, sir?

00:49:40.060 Hi, Steve.

00:49:41.700 First, I would like to say happy fifth anniversary of NFSC.

00:49:45.560 You are one of the founders of NFSC.

00:49:48.360 Well, Miles is still unjustly returned in MDC.

00:49:53.820 But first of all, regarding that deal, of course, it's tough to have a deal because Xi doesn't want a deal at all.

00:50:01.920 Their goal is to take down the American. 0.99

00:50:04.100 Their goal is to undermine the democracy and the freedom in this country.

00:50:08.760 Of course, you cannot get a deal with them.

00:50:11.680 This is exactly, and also today, as you saw the video, today is the 36th anniversary for that Tiananmen massacre.

00:50:19.480 I think we are doing the same thing here.

00:50:21.980 The Chinese Communist Party is starting the deal and also get more time to prepare for their next attack, whether it's attack Taiwan, 0.94

00:50:31.860 whether it's dumping the bond to sinking the American economy, or whether it's delivering another passenger or virus into this country.

00:50:41.560 That's what they are doing right now.

00:50:43.080 I think, you know, back 36 years ago, all the Chinese students in Tiananmen Square, they are naive, they are young. 1.00

00:50:51.040 They trusted the CCP.

00:50:53.760 But what happened to them?

00:50:55.460 They lost their lives because the Chinese Communist Party is rolling in the tanks and bullets against the unarmed students and citizens.

00:51:03.960 Okay, so this is exactly what is happening right now.

00:51:08.700 Now you see what is happening in Korea.

00:51:12.360 Chinese Communist Party already waged this war, this unrestricted war, for a long time.

00:51:19.680 And just American people need to understand this.

00:51:22.560 We have to take action to decouple from Chinese Communist Party, to clean out all the insiders and enablers and cooperators within this country. 0.99

00:51:34.000 I think I want to, there is a FBI director, Kash Patel, last night posted this act.

00:51:41.620 They just arrested one Chinese national, basically as a Chinese spy.

00:51:47.060 What he did, he brought a very dangerous biological pathogen into this country.

00:51:53.260 This time it's not attacking the people.

00:51:56.000 It is attacking our food supply.

00:51:57.800 Hang on, hang on.

00:51:58.740 I want to get to this because what happened in Michigan is emblematic of one of the problems we got here.

00:52:05.900 Incredible situation up in Michigan.

00:52:08.060 People bringing pathogens into this country.

00:52:12.060 Unbelievable. 0.98

00:52:13.140 Chinese Communist Party.

00:52:14.100 Got to stand up to it.

00:52:16.100 Got to stand up to it now.

00:52:17.940 We're going to take a short break.

00:52:18.780 120 seconds.

00:52:19.600 Jack Posobo is going to get us.

00:52:20.800 We've got Chris Fenton in Hollywood.

00:52:22.160 We've got Ava, Roy, Forrest, Captain Fennell.

00:52:27.220 We're loaded, packed.

00:52:29.720 We've got to talk about the big, beautiful bill.

00:52:31.260 Johnson just put a phone call into Elon last night.

00:52:35.460 He just told the media, hey, the guy didn't take the phone call.

00:52:39.340 You're only the speaker of the house, Polly Pockets. 0.64

00:52:41.580 Step up to the plate, brother.

00:52:45.120 It's now a time of testing.

00:52:49.200 Unbelievable.

00:52:49.860 Short break.

00:52:50.400 Back with Post on a moment.

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Bannon's War Room - June 04, 2025

Episode 4534： New CBO Score On The Big Beautiful Bill; AI Lying To Their Maker

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