Bannon's War Room - June 13, 2025


Episode 4558: Israel's Warning To The Region


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

163.54335

Word Count

9,079

Sentence Count

721

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

Steve and Dave are joined by Tej Gell from Warpath Coffee to discuss the latest in the Iran crisis and the unintended consequences that could be the result of it. They also talk about the potential for World War 3.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,
00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself,
00:00:34.000 what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,
00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room.
00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:53.000 All right, back in the War Room.
00:00:55.000 Dave Brat sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:59.000 We've got continuous coverage of the war.
00:01:02.000 Obai Shabander is coming on with us.
00:01:04.000 But first, we've got Tej Gill from Warpath Coffee.
00:01:08.000 Tej, the floor is yours.
00:01:10.000 Why don't you bring us up to speed on the war?
00:01:13.000 You know the America First philosophy as well as anyone.
00:01:17.000 What's your overview of what's been happening?
00:01:20.000 And what are the consequences, as Steve says?
00:01:23.000 What's the unintended consequences that could put us in a real barrel
00:01:29.000 as we try to fight multiple wars at the same time with the border invasion,
00:01:33.000 20 million, China, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, et cetera.
00:01:38.000 Put it all into context for us, brother.
00:01:41.000 Yeah.
00:01:42.000 I think the unintended consequences are the United States getting drug into another war
00:01:47.000 into the Middle East.
00:01:49.000 Israel did a great job with this mission last night.
00:01:53.000 It was basically all out war on Iran.
00:01:57.000 I would have liked to have seen some more negotiating with Trump.
00:02:01.000 You know, Trump got elected saying he wants to bring peace to the Middle East and Russia, Ukraine.
00:02:09.000 I don't think any of that's happening.
00:02:11.000 He's been undermined at every corner.
00:02:13.000 But Israel is our ally and we're going to protect them.
00:02:16.000 So just like last time, Israel had a back and forth with Iran.
00:02:21.000 We, the Europeans and the Arabs all launched aircraft and we shot down all those missiles,
00:02:27.000 not all, but almost all the missiles and drone attacks from Iran.
00:02:30.000 So I think we're committed to that.
00:02:32.000 We're committed to protecting Israel.
00:02:34.000 Trump said we're going to stay out of the attacking Iran piece,
00:02:38.000 but we're committed to protecting Israel.
00:02:40.000 And that could lead us into another war in the Middle East,
00:02:44.000 because, as we know, you can't conquer a nation through air attacks.
00:02:50.000 So if Iran doesn't capitulate and go back to the table, then at some point,
00:02:57.000 if Israel wants to completely capitulate Iran,
00:03:02.000 then there may be boots on the ground at some point, which we don't want.
00:03:05.000 And Iran already said that they may attack U.S. embassies and air bases, which we don't want,
00:03:11.000 because then Americans get killed, then we're going to have to retaliate.
00:03:14.000 So we'll see. We'll see.
00:03:16.000 But that's that's those are the unintended consequences.
00:03:19.000 And another unintended consequence would be the 20 million illegal immigrants that came into the United States under Biden.
00:03:27.000 People are saying that there may be some sleeper cells in there.
00:03:30.000 Some terrorists came across the border. So we'll see.
00:03:34.000 That could be another intended unintended consequence for terrorist attacks inside the homeland of the United States because of Israel's actions last night.
00:03:44.000 So we will see.
00:03:46.000 We'll see. And then also on the European front.
00:03:50.000 Zelensky launched these attacks on the Russian airfields.
00:03:54.000 And those may have unintended consequences because Trump is not pulling the plug on supporting Ukraine.
00:04:02.000 So that's that's two.
00:04:05.000 We had Eastern Europe and the Middle East between Israel and Iran.
00:04:10.000 And the next thing that's on the pressure cooker is China and Taiwan.
00:04:15.000 If China takes I want Taiwan or tries to take Taiwan, then I would say it's fair to say that World War three is going.
00:04:25.000 Right now we're at two out of three.
00:04:27.000 Yeah.
00:04:28.000 Yeah.
00:04:29.000 We're close to World War three.
00:04:31.000 Yeah.
00:04:32.000 You're a war fighter.
00:04:33.000 You have friends around the country.
00:04:36.000 The polling all says the American people want us to pull back.
00:04:41.000 They want less war, not more war.
00:04:44.000 When you go around the country, what do you hear from other war fighters?
00:04:48.000 It's the sons and daughters of MAGA that are going to get killed.
00:04:51.000 Right.
00:04:52.000 It's not the elitist Ivy League crew that their sons and daughters are going to be put at risk.
00:04:57.000 When you go around the country, you know, just give us a few anecdotes from people you've talked to.
00:05:02.000 What are they saying?
00:05:03.000 When you just talk to people as you meet them going around the country, what are they saying to you?
00:05:09.000 Yeah, the appetite for war is going away.
00:05:14.000 It's not.
00:05:15.000 This is, you know, I remember in 1991 when we invaded Iraq, Iraq-Kuwait thing, the Gulf War, you know, it was such American flags everywhere, the yellow ribbons, and then same thing after 9-11.
00:05:30.000 I mean, I think that sentiment is gone.
00:05:33.000 People are over it.
00:05:35.000 People are just over it.
00:05:36.000 They don't want the war anymore.
00:05:37.000 I mean, we've been at war since 2001, basically, continuously.
00:05:42.000 You know, and then as soon as Afghanistan wound down, we shifted right into Ukraine, into a proxy war.
00:05:50.000 We don't have, for the most part, we don't have any troops over there.
00:05:53.000 And then now this thing with Israel and Iran heats up, which I know it will.
00:06:00.000 There's at least going to be a couple more back and forth.
00:06:03.000 I don't think the appetite for war is there anymore in the United States.
00:06:07.000 And through my friends that are out of the military now, some of them are still in, some of them are still in the intelligence agencies, that the appetite for war is just not there, for the most part.
00:06:19.000 It's still there, I would say, at a small level.
00:06:22.000 But the majority of the guys I know, they don't have the appetite for war anymore.
00:06:26.000 They don't want it.
00:06:27.000 And America overwhelmingly voted for Trump.
00:06:31.000 I mean, Trump won by a landslide, and he ran on no war.
00:06:35.000 Yeah.
00:06:36.000 Exactly.
00:06:37.000 Last question, and then sell us some coffee.
00:06:40.000 All right.
00:06:41.000 So the American people don't have an appetite for war.
00:06:44.000 It's clear to everybody.
00:06:45.000 The polling shows it.
00:06:47.000 We don't live in a pure democracy.
00:06:49.000 It's a representative democracy, a republic.
00:06:53.000 What's gone wrong with Congress?
00:06:55.000 They're supposed to declare war.
00:06:56.000 They don't ever discuss it.
00:06:58.000 There's no forums open to the American people.
00:07:00.000 How do we fix this so that we don't have the CIA and the deep state, the State Department, the bureaucrats tugging at President Trump, trying to make it sound like he's engaged in some good deal or something, when his gut has proven to be right?
00:07:15.000 What's wrong with our representative republic?
00:07:20.000 Oh, well, you know, as well as I do, the representatives, they don't represent the constituents anymore.
00:07:27.000 They represented special interest group and lobbyists, and the lobbyists work for other countries like Israel.
00:07:34.000 They work for the Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, all these guys, and our economy is basically based on war now.
00:07:45.000 We've outsourced all our manufacturing to China and all these other countries, and we are a war machine.
00:07:51.000 United States is a war machine, and whether we have troops on the ground fighting somewhere, if that's not the case, then we have to have proxy wars to feed the war machine, and that's it.
00:08:02.000 So last night fed the war machine because we sell arms to Israel.
00:08:07.000 We give them grants, and it all goes back to the big arms company.
00:08:12.000 The military industrial complex drives America, and they own our Congress.
00:08:17.000 And how to fix it, I don't know.
00:08:19.000 I don't know, Dave, how to fix it.
00:08:21.000 Trump ran on shutting down the deep state, and I think he's doing a good job, but I don't know if he can shut it down.
00:08:30.000 Well, the people, you know, it's what the war room's all about, agency.
00:08:33.000 And Steve always says, people need to make more noise.
00:08:36.000 You've got to get through to your representatives on this war thing.
00:08:40.000 And so, Tej, you know, we were just talking about the appetite for war and the warmongers and the globalists, et cetera, and the Marxists fight against the nation state itself.
00:08:52.000 And let's not leave out the left, right?
00:08:54.000 There's tens of billions of dollars in slush funds, right?
00:08:57.000 USAID, the Department of Energy, everybody now knows.
00:09:01.000 And the tens of billions of dollars going into these NGOs, nonprofits that are actually funding the war going on on our streets right now in Los Angeles across the country.
00:09:13.000 And the funding sources are coming into sharp relief.
00:09:16.000 And so, people on the war room, if you see a show on that that you like where Mike Benz is on giving the evidence, please share that with everyone you know.
00:09:24.000 I've had very good friends that are more left, whatever.
00:09:29.000 You share the war with them, and over a period of a few months, it starts to crack, and it seeps in, and they change their tune.
00:09:37.000 Tej, sell us some coffee, and thanks for being with us today, brother.
00:09:42.000 Oh, yeah. Thanks for having me on.
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00:11:52.000 And we're going to another great patriot right now, Tej.
00:11:55.000 We're going to General Flynn.
00:11:56.000 Awesome.
00:11:57.000 General Flynn, are you with us?
00:11:59.000 Yeah, I'm right here.
00:12:01.000 I'm mobile.
00:12:02.000 I'm on my mobile command post.
00:12:04.000 Good.
00:12:05.000 Tej, your coffee's amazing.
00:12:07.000 Yeah, no, you got it.
00:12:08.000 You got it.
00:12:09.000 Hey, we've got about two and a half minutes for a short intro,
00:12:12.000 and then we'll dive into the weeds.
00:12:14.000 But give us your two-and-a-half-minute overview of what's going on overnight,
00:12:19.000 and we'll come back to you to get in the weeds a little bit.
00:12:23.000 Thanks, General.
00:12:25.000 Yeah, very briefly.
00:12:27.000 Very briefly, this war is going to go on in the Middle East for at least another two weeks.
00:12:32.000 You're going to see a level of devastation that we have not seen probably historically in many people's lives probably since World War II.
00:12:41.000 And this is regime change time.
00:12:43.000 Israelis are done.
00:12:45.000 And I don't blame them.
00:12:48.000 What we need is we need a benevolent leader inside of Iran to rise up.
00:12:52.000 We don't need somebody flying in from Paris who's been making billions off the backs of other people.
00:12:59.000 We need somebody from inside the regime, and we need the CIA the hell out of there.
00:13:04.000 Right.
00:13:05.000 And what do you see?
00:13:07.000 I mean, you know the region better than anyone.
00:13:10.000 What's the probability of those events occurring, getting a better secular leader who's not at war with us?
00:13:19.000 Yeah, I think it's very high, actually.
00:13:22.000 I think that there are some people that are identified.
00:13:25.000 It is the most important thing is at what point in time does Israel make the decision?
00:13:31.000 And they are hunting right now.
00:13:33.000 They are definitely the guys on the ground are hunting for the leadership that's been.
00:13:37.000 They've devastated the leadership just like they did devastating the leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah.
00:13:42.000 They're devastating the leadership of Iran right now, the military, the IRGC, the political leadership.
00:13:48.000 And, you know, we haven't heard about the Ayatollah yet.
00:13:51.000 I guarantee he's in hiding.
00:13:53.000 His life is at risk, and that's fine.
00:13:56.000 I do think that the Israelis need whatever capabilities they need because this thing is going to go on, my belief, is for another couple of weeks.
00:14:06.000 They are not done with the level of destruction of the nuclear capability.
00:14:10.000 We have to face the fact that since really the Obama regime, Iran, the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world, has been developing a nuclear weapon.
00:14:22.000 And they have had, you know, they've had years to develop it, their level of enrichment of uranium is at a level that, you know, they were ready to come out with bombs here, you know, in the next couple of weeks, if not days.
00:14:35.000 So Israel showed massive.
00:14:38.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:14:39.000 Go ahead.
00:14:40.000 I know we're back.
00:14:41.000 We got a break.
00:14:42.000 We're going to hit, General.
00:14:43.000 And when you come back, we want to hear your bona fides, one of the finest intelligence minds in America right now.
00:14:49.000 So, General, when you come back, give us a quick overview of your qualifications because the American people need you right now.
00:14:57.000 Back in a second.
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00:16:42.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:46.000 Back in the war room, Dave Brat sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:54.000 Honored and privileged to have General Mike Flynn with us.
00:16:58.000 I don't usually plug Liberty.
00:17:00.000 All political views are my own.
00:17:01.000 But we have General Flynn coming to our CEO Summit October 15 and 16 at Liberty University.
00:17:08.000 And I've gotten to know Mike over the years somewhat.
00:17:13.000 And everything I hear about him, I mean, he's just a fine Christian man.
00:17:17.000 The values and virtues.
00:17:18.000 When you're putting men's lives at risk, I want him in charge.
00:17:22.000 I know he cares about God's will.
00:17:24.000 And so, Mike, thanks for being on with us today.
00:17:29.000 Also, I'm down in Dallas representing Liberty Day down at the Tower Club from 1 to 4 with business friends.
00:17:36.000 So at the last minute, if you want to stop by, CEOs and business friends, pop on by.
00:17:41.000 From here on out, all political views are my own.
00:17:44.000 General Flynn, give the folks your bona fides, your rise up, how high in the military,
00:17:51.000 and then your intelligence so people know what they're hearing and who they're hearing it from.
00:17:56.000 Yeah, I've served almost three and a half decades in the world of intelligence, special operations, airborne,
00:18:03.000 five years in combat operations, served operationally for the majority of my life,
00:18:10.000 served almost two decades at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the home of special operations and airborne forces,
00:18:18.000 served on six continents, many different wars, Central America, Caribbean, Southwest Asia, Central Asia.
00:18:27.000 You know, so I got a lot of time from company battalion all the way up to serving as the highest,
00:18:35.000 most senior military intelligence officer in the Department of Defense
00:18:38.000 and running one of the largest intelligence agencies in the world, certainly here in the United States of America.
00:18:45.000 So I got a lot of time.
00:18:48.000 I spent a lot of years in the Middle East, particularly focused on this problem set that we are now, you know,
00:18:55.000 watching unfold, unravel, if you will, in Iran.
00:18:59.000 So a couple of things that I just I would just offer for your viewers.
00:19:05.000 We are seeing an exquisite level of intelligence operations by the nation of Israel.
00:19:12.000 I mean, it's just extraordinary to me.
00:19:15.000 This is a this is definitely a warning.
00:19:18.000 This is a warning to any other adversary in that region who feels like they want to take a shot at Israel.
00:19:25.000 There's one thing that the Israelis have is they have incredible levels of very detailed, very tactical,
00:19:32.000 very refined intelligence because the targets that they are hitting and the and the precision that they're hitting those targets.
00:19:38.000 And I'm talking about people, command and control, air defense, all the different battlefield operating systems that you have to take out in order to,
00:19:46.000 in this case, to destroy the capability, the military and intelligence and security capabilities of a nation.
00:19:53.000 Israelis have done quite a bit of it in just a period of about 48 hours.
00:19:57.000 We are going to see this continue.
00:19:59.000 And again, this is a warning to anybody else in the region.
00:20:03.000 I've already seen where the Hezbollah response is been has been nullified because they know the other countries in the region that have put out statements condemning this attack.
00:20:17.000 They know they don't want to say it.
00:20:20.000 Dave, they don't want to say it out loud, but they actually are applauding this attack because Iran has been nothing but a sore spot on the on the rear end of this particular region of the world.
00:20:31.000 So we cannot continue to have the the basically the the spew that comes out of Iran and out of people like the Ayatollah, who's talking about the annihilation of not only the state of Israel, but also the United States of America.
00:20:48.000 I applaud President Trump for how he has demonstrated enormous and extraordinary strategic patience.
00:20:55.000 And he has given he has given every inch of rope to the Iranians to make a better decision.
00:21:01.000 And they have refused.
00:21:02.000 They have basically, you know, not made that decision.
00:21:05.000 Absolutely horrendous call on their part.
00:21:08.000 And now what Israel is going to do is continue to destroy every single aspect of the nuclear war making potential of Iran.
00:21:18.000 Yeah.
00:21:19.000 Hey, General, the President Trump, you know, is overarching strategy.
00:21:24.000 America first.
00:21:25.000 We got a 20 million border invasion war going on domestically.
00:21:29.000 That's been taking tremendous resources away from us.
00:21:32.000 He wanted to get out of Ukraine.
00:21:34.000 I'm going to get out of there in a day, said, didn't want a war in the Middle East.
00:21:39.000 China is the major problem.
00:21:42.000 So how do you what we want to hear from you is how do you put that puzzle together for the American and the American people don't want war.
00:21:52.000 The polling is overwhelmingly they want less action.
00:21:56.000 So how do we thread this needle?
00:21:58.000 Because now the genie's out of the bottle and Steve Bannon's been talking about unintended consequences after Iraq and shock and awe and everything looked good and the purple ink and the thumbs and all that.
00:22:09.000 What's the cautionary note of us moving forward so that we can solve our own domestic problems, bring manufacturing back to America and have some stability and all get rich together.
00:22:19.000 He Trump said he wants Iran to get rich together.
00:22:22.000 And now they you're right.
00:22:23.000 He gave them rope and they they hung themselves.
00:22:26.000 They hung themselves.
00:22:28.000 Yeah.
00:22:29.000 So so so as brief as I can, Dave, this is a super important issue for Trump and Trump's going to have to deal with this.
00:22:35.000 And his inner circle team is going to have to they're going to have to really, really, you know, pull up the bootstraps here, folks.
00:22:42.000 So I know that they're listening.
00:22:44.000 They have got to do this because what Trump what Trump wanted to do was he wanted to end the day one.
00:22:50.000 I'm going to end the war in Europe there, you know, in Ukraine.
00:22:53.000 We're going to negotiate a great deal with Iran, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:56.000 So here's where we're at.
00:22:58.000 And I and people that follow me on X and go to at Jen Flynn, G and Flynn, because I posted something about the Ukraine war.
00:23:05.000 We have got to we have got to clean the decks right now and and completely relook how we are negotiating the situation in Europe, because that war can end and it can end very quickly.
00:23:18.000 But right now, the people that he's got on the at the negotiating table, this is really not Marco Rubio.
00:23:24.000 Marco Rubio has got he's up to his eyeballs in national security challenges just because of all the shit he's got to do.
00:23:30.000 So Trump has got to clean the decks.
00:23:33.000 He's got to say, OK, nothing is working.
00:23:36.000 Clear it out. I want I want some new ideas.
00:23:38.000 And so I laid one out there this morning.
00:23:40.000 And these are serious, serious issues in serious times that, you know, the war in the Middle East.
00:23:46.000 I just think at this point in time, it's going to play itself out.
00:23:49.000 We're going to have to pay very close attention to it.
00:23:52.000 But that takes me back to our country, the United States of America and the domestic landscape.
00:23:57.000 And what what I don't like, I don't like the this deal that Trump just had with Xi in China, the Chinese.
00:24:05.000 So, you know, I mean, he's he's he posted whatever yesterday about the deal he cut on tariffs and and Chinese students who have been ripping us off for almost three decades now, stealing every single intellectual property that we have going back home, taking it back home and develop.
00:24:23.000 I mean, we have got to stop this.
00:24:25.000 I mean, frankly, the nonsense and the bullshit that that the Chinese Communist Party, not the people of China, but the Chinese Communist Party and the leadership right now by Xi is going to be our friends and they're going to work with us as competitors or, you know, or or partners.
00:24:42.000 No, the Chinese have been killing Americans with fentanyl to the tune of hundreds of thousands over the last five years.
00:24:51.000 Never mind methamphetamine prior to that and other drugs prior to that.
00:24:55.000 Covid Covid was another bioweapon.
00:24:57.000 We just saw the the capture of a couple of people with bioweapons to destroy our agricultural industry.
00:25:02.000 That's only three people. How many more people are out there?
00:25:05.000 The purchasing of real estate, this nonsense about they're going to Congress is going to, you know, be part of of of these delegations around the United States to to what to market the Chinese Communist Party.
00:25:18.000 This has got to end. It has got to end.
00:25:21.000 First and foremost, Trump has got to refocus on America first.
00:25:25.000 America first to the rest of the world does not mean America in isolation.
00:25:29.000 It means we have got to get our our muscles stronger.
00:25:32.000 We have gotten like a human being. You got to work out.
00:25:35.000 To stay healthy. America, we got to work out to get healthy.
00:25:38.000 Right. Manufacturing prowess, our own energy resources that we have in abundance.
00:25:43.000 We've got mining operations that have been shut down for well over a couple of decades, actually.
00:25:48.000 And Trump tried to start, you know, to get some of them going up in like places like Montana and out in Colorado and in New Mexico.
00:25:56.000 But there's other places in the country, you know, manufacturing in Michigan and Ohio.
00:26:00.000 These are the kinds of things that the American people want.
00:26:03.000 American people do not want war. And so don't don't drag us to another war in the Middle East.
00:26:09.000 Don't drag us into a war that's cost us half a trillion, five hundred billion dollars in Eastern Europe.
00:26:15.000 What what we could have done with that money and Congress is nowhere to be seen.
00:26:20.000 Folks, right. American people, listeners of the war room do not think that Congress is going to do the right thing.
00:26:27.000 They are not. They are making a killing on these wars.
00:26:30.000 The neocons, the neolips. I mean, so I could go on and on, Dave.
00:26:34.000 But yeah. Well, yeah.
00:26:37.000 Yeah. Go ahead, Mike.
00:26:40.000 I was going to say America is a godly country.
00:26:43.000 And we which is one thing that we are in addition to other, you know, declining capabilities.
00:26:49.000 We are a nation in moral decline. And if we don't, if we don't raise the stature and I know I'm talking to the to the ministers and the pastors and the congregations out there.
00:26:59.000 Get your act together. Thank God the Christian community came to the rescue of President Trump.
00:27:06.000 I'm a Catholic. Steve's a Catholic. Trump got the most Catholic votes of any president, I think, since Ronald Reagan or maybe even before, maybe even more than him.
00:27:14.000 Christians better better stand up and step up and be counted and speak up.
00:27:19.000 And I'm not talking about the weak pastors and ministers and priests at the at the pulpits.
00:27:24.000 I'm talking about people of of of moral courage.
00:27:28.000 Our country has got to return to that.
00:27:30.000 And it doesn't mean that, you know, you don't there's not other other things that I can I can, you know, argue about and debate about.
00:27:37.000 But what I'm telling you is our country is in moral decline and we are in a steep moral decline.
00:27:42.000 We're not at the precipice. We're in the abyss.
00:27:45.000 Read Psalm 23.
00:27:48.000 Yeah, I was going to go there.
00:27:50.000 That was going to be my closing question for you.
00:27:52.000 General Flynn, American hero, patriot, serves country his whole life.
00:27:57.000 The Judeo Christian West is at a breaking point.
00:28:01.000 He's dead serious.
00:28:02.000 And I agree wholeheartedly with what he just said.
00:28:05.000 The church is supposed to be the body of Christ on Earth.
00:28:09.000 And it should know about these catastrophic issues we're facing.
00:28:13.000 Right. We should know that our CIA probably had involvement a week ago in the Russia, Ukraine.
00:28:20.000 And the church is not aware of this.
00:28:23.000 These are existential life and death, peace versus war.
00:28:27.000 And we want peace.
00:28:29.000 But you got to do it the right way.
00:28:31.000 So, General Flynn, thank you for being with us.
00:28:33.000 You're a treasure and God bless you in all your work.
00:28:36.000 Back after the break in two seconds.
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00:30:15.000 All right, back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:21.000 It's our honor to have Ube Shabander back on.
00:30:24.000 He's going to bring us right up to speed on where we stand now operationally.
00:30:30.000 Israel went in hard.
00:30:33.000 They went beyond getting rid of new capacity.
00:30:36.000 They went to decapitation, not of the political figures, but of the high end military figures.
00:30:42.000 So now we're in the soup, as they say.
00:30:45.000 And so they now the U.S. is in a predicament.
00:30:51.000 And so what bring us up to speed, Ube, and thanks again for being with us on the war room.
00:30:57.000 First of all, General Michael Flynn is absolutely spot on.
00:31:00.000 I mean, there he is a brilliant military mind and hopefully he can come back and serve his nation once more.
00:31:06.000 Look, there's no question.
00:31:07.000 This is a full sweep.
00:31:10.000 This is a determined Israeli decapitation strike against the top echelons of Iran's strategic and military command.
00:31:21.000 Here's where we are operationally right now.
00:31:24.000 The Israeli Air Force and Mossad agents who have penetrated deep behind enemy lines on Iranian territory
00:31:32.000 have managed to kill at least 20 senior Iranian Revolutionary Guard commanders as well as the commander of the Iranian Missile and Air Force Command.
00:31:48.000 And the senior and most nuclear program advisor to the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
00:31:56.000 So right now I can imagine that there is confusion, there is chaos within the command structure of Iran's political command.
00:32:04.000 And look, Bibi Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister in a statement earlier today said that this is the time for the Iranian people,
00:32:13.000 the Iranian people to declare their freedom.
00:32:17.000 So that is a message here that this is a strategic blow against Iran.
00:32:23.000 The intent here is perhaps regime change, that this is going to go well beyond striking the nuclear underground enrichment sites.
00:32:33.000 Now, we do have reports that the Natanz nuclear enrichment site has been significantly damaged by the Israeli strikes.
00:32:43.000 That's important. Why? Because Iran has two of them, Natanz and Fordow.
00:32:48.000 The big one is Fordow. That is deep beneath the mountains, underneath the holy Iranian site of the city of Qom.
00:32:57.000 And that we can expect the Israelis to strike that site as well.
00:33:00.000 We are seeing some updates as we speak right now that there are new explosions being heard in the capital of Iran, Tehran,
00:33:06.000 and in that holy site, a city of Qom where that Fordow nuclear facility is taking place.
00:33:12.000 The Israelis certainly here are going this is operations going to take days, if not weeks.
00:33:18.000 You've got Mossad deep behind enemy lines.
00:33:20.000 The Israelis have managed to cripple the order of battle for the Iranian command by striking against the leadership of Iran's missile command and its ground forces,
00:33:33.000 as well as the chief of staff of the Iranian military, Mohammad Bagari.
00:33:38.000 He is dead. Now, imagine that's equivalent if the chairman of the joint chief of staff was assassinated alongside others on the in the Pentagon leadership.
00:33:48.000 That is what this is equivalent to. So right now, the Iranian military command structure, which is top heavy, is running blind.
00:33:54.000 So this is going to escalate.
00:33:56.000 We're going to see more of these Mossad attacks inside Iran and more of these Israeli airstrikes, given what we were hearing from the leadership in Jerusalem.
00:34:06.000 Right now, the Iranians have not been have not managed to launch their medium and long range ballistic missiles against Israeli targets.
00:34:14.000 But so there seem they're trying to regroup right now, given the chaos that is taking place in Tehran.
00:34:20.000 But no question from an operational perspective, from a battlefield damage assessment, this has been a widely effective strike on Iran.
00:34:31.000 The question is, what does the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei do?
00:34:34.000 He probably believes that his regime right now is facing collapse.
00:34:38.000 So how will the Iranians react?
00:34:41.000 Is this a bear that's been cornered or will they collapse and totally be crippled?
00:34:46.000 President Trump in a social media statement said, hey, Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left.
00:34:53.000 And that is wise advice.
00:34:55.000 Yeah, what are the odds?
00:34:59.000 I cannot imagine Iran making that deal right now.
00:35:04.000 What's the timeline for Iran to recoup somewhat and be able to retain its footing with medium and long range missiles to Israel?
00:35:15.000 And then any risk assessment to the U.S.?
00:35:19.000 And then do they have proxies anywhere outside of Iran that can help them in this response or have most of them been weakened significantly already?
00:35:30.000 Well, Iran's main proxy and its strategic deterrent against Israel, Hezbollah in Lebanon, has been wiped up.
00:35:37.000 Hezbollah has already said that they're not in this fight.
00:35:39.000 That's because the Israeli Mossad killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, and killed most of the top Hezbollah commands with those exploding pagers.
00:35:49.000 That Mossad intelligence operation that killed hundreds of Hezbollah commanders as well as the top leadership of Hezbollah.
00:35:58.000 That means that Hezbollah, which is right on the border of Israel's north, is not going to be able to launch retaliatory strikes.
00:36:04.000 And Iran for years had pinned its hopes on the ability of Hezbollah to launch these strikes into Israel to try to stop the Israelis from launching out strikes deep into Iran's fortified underground nuclear facilities.
00:36:17.000 So without Hezbollah, Iran is really exposed. But Iran Revolutionary Guard still has terror operatives throughout the Middle East.
00:36:25.000 And that means American diplomatic facilities and military bases in Doha, the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Baghdad are potentially exposed to retaliation.
00:36:37.000 But that would be essentially suicidal by the Iranians if they so chose that path.
00:36:43.000 Look, Steve Whitcoff was supposed to sit down with his Iranian counterparts on Sunday in the neutral Arabian Gulf country of Oman.
00:36:50.000 That clearly is not going to happen anymore.
00:36:52.000 And we saw from President Trump's social media statement earlier today that some of the Iranians that the American side was dealing with from the Trump administration,
00:37:02.000 many of those people are now dead given the wide sweeping nature of this Israeli strike that seems to have caught the Iranian military leadership and Ayatollah Khomeini completely unprepared with the top military advisers to the Ayatollah in Tehran now dead.
00:37:19.000 So all eyes are now on what Tehran will do next. This is completely from an operational perspective in the first 24 hours seems to have been a success.
00:37:29.000 The question is, is will Israel's attacks be able to destroy those advanced centrifuges that the Iranians use to enrich uranium to weapons grade levels of enrichment?
00:37:44.000 Bibi Netanyahu said that these strikes will destroy those centrifuges.
00:37:49.000 It's going to take the Iranians perhaps decades to rebuild that nuclear program,
00:37:54.000 given that the Israeli Mossad has also managed to assassinate a number of the top nuclear scientists in Iran as well.
00:38:02.000 And that is going to lead to a significant amount of chaos and disruption within the nuclear research and development capability that Iran currently has as well.
00:38:11.000 Even if some of those centrifuges deep beneath the Iranian mountains survive the first wave of strikes, but we can certainly expect another wave.
00:38:19.000 The question is, will American military assets be dragged into this war?
00:38:24.000 So far, it's very clear from President Trump administration's statements that American military assets warplanes are soldiers are not involved in this attacks.
00:38:33.000 But perhaps behind the scenes, there may be some intelligence support to the Israeli long range attacks and their special Mossad activities on the ground in Iran.
00:38:42.000 Yeah, say a little bit more on that.
00:38:45.000 But also, you and Flynn both agree it's going to be days, weeks before maybe even the Israeli strikes are done.
00:38:53.000 And so where does that leave us on the ground, you know, just in terms of everyday activity?
00:38:58.000 I mean, it's all undermined, right?
00:39:00.000 I mean, flight activity in the Middle East, the Straits of Hormuz, key choke points are problematic.
00:39:07.000 What do you see, you know, just say a month out?
00:39:11.000 What's still going to be negatively impacted because of these attacks?
00:39:15.000 It's not just going to be life as normal.
00:39:17.000 I can't comprehend that.
00:39:19.000 Try to try to map that out for us a little bit.
00:39:22.000 Yeah, Pandora's box has been opened.
00:39:24.000 Now, look, remember, in June of last year, the Iranians and Israelis traded missile strikes and airstrikes, but that was relatively contained.
00:39:33.000 This is a whole different ballgame.
00:39:35.000 This is the Israeli Air Force and Mossad operators on the ground going after the top leaders of the of Iran's top echelon, people that are sit down with Ayatollah Khomeini on any given day.
00:39:48.000 So with Hassan Nasrallah dead in Lebanon, with Ali Shamkhani, who was the right hand man of Ayatollah Khomeini, also dead, with Hussain Salami, the chief of staff of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards dead, as well as some of his other lieutenants.
00:40:05.000 You know, Khomeini right now must be wondering, well, maybe I'm next, so maybe we should just go all out.
00:40:11.000 Look, the Mossad is probably still on the ground.
00:40:14.000 We did see reports that the Israeli intelligence special service was able to evacuate some of their operators that were on the ground.
00:40:21.000 And according to reports, launching drones, drone strikes from within Iranian territory, striking some of those ballistic missile facilities that the Iranians have underground that were intended to be used as a second strike capability against Israel if and when these attacks take place.
00:40:41.000 So right now, the Israelis seem to be at least two steps ahead on the chessboard with Iran.
00:40:45.700 But, you know, the Iranians can launch kamikaze strikes.
00:40:47.840 We saw in 2019 the Iranians launching suicide kamikaze drone strikes against Saudi oil crude storage facilities in northern Saudi Arabia.
00:40:58.240 We saw the Iranians launch a similar attack against oil facilities right outside of Abu Dhabi.
00:41:04.140 So perhaps here the Iranians may choose to strike oil storage facilities and terminals in the Arabian Gulf and to, you know, spike oil prices, you know, throughout the world.
00:41:15.480 That could perhaps be one option.
00:41:18.220 But that might lead to strikes against Iran's oil terminals.
00:41:22.480 And that could, of course, cripple Iran's economy.
00:41:25.220 So I think this is going to, you know, this is going to escalate before it de-escalates.
00:41:29.800 The message coming out of Washington here is that, hey, Iran, before there's nothing left of what was once a proud empire, take the deal, you know, agree to zero enrichment.
00:41:40.000 You had 60 days.
00:41:41.400 Now it's 60 days plus one.
00:41:43.540 You've seen that there, you know, the other side is not bluffing.
00:41:48.440 You know, you were warned multiple times over and over and over again that, you know, the U.S. has the most lethal military capabilities,
00:41:56.560 that much of which have been provided to Israel and that there would be consequences if you did not accept the deal.
00:42:03.040 And now the Iranians are facing that consequence.
00:42:06.740 Will there be an opportunity for Ayatollah Khamenei to go back to the negotiating table?
00:42:12.760 Well, many of those people that were negotiating are now been killed by this extraordinary Israeli decapitation strike.
00:42:19.540 So, you know, but if a missile facility is used to strike American diplomats or American soldiers, let's not forget when the Iranians and their militia forces last tried to do this,
00:42:33.580 President Trump in the first term, you know, wiped out Qasem Soleimani, the most capable Iranian commander.
00:42:40.840 And so, you know, that certainly is going to also factor into what Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, is going to do next.
00:42:47.040 But this is war. The Middle East is at war, and this war is going to continue for some time, no doubt.
00:42:53.060 Yeah, yeah. 30 seconds left, Uwai. Thanks for being with us.
00:42:57.260 30 seconds in closing.
00:42:59.100 How much does this shift the U.S. positioning and the resources of the State Department, the CIA, most every agency?
00:43:06.860 You said this is huge from the Israeli perspective.
00:43:09.980 It seems to me it's also fairly significant, even if we're in a passive position, to get ready for what could happen.
00:43:17.420 Just give us in 30 seconds a summary overview of what the U.S. shift looks like internally.
00:43:22.400 Well, yeah, the American aircraft carriers on the Arabian Gulf and in that area, they're going to be on high alert for any type of suicide drone attacks or suicide boat attacks.
00:43:33.120 Intelligence facilities, diplomatic facilities throughout the Arabian Gulf in the Middle East are going to be at high alert.
00:43:38.620 And of course, you know, Iranian-backed terrorists can even attack American tourists in Europe or in Latin America,
00:43:44.960 some, you know, a tactic that the Iranians have used in the past when they were desperate.
00:43:49.400 So this is a war in the Middle East, but it certainly has global implications.
00:43:53.540 Yeah.
00:43:54.020 Yeah.
00:43:54.540 Right on the money.
00:43:55.300 Uwai Shabandar, thank you very much, brother, for being with us again on The War Room.
00:43:59.720 You're great.
00:44:00.580 Everyone loves your analysis.
00:44:03.220 See you soon.
00:44:04.180 Folks, stay with us.
00:44:05.720 Over the break.
00:44:06.320 Right back.
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00:45:30.460 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:45:32.860 All right, Dave Bratt in the war room with great Stephen K. Bannon covering the war overnight news.
00:45:45.440 I'm sure everyone's pretty much up to speed.
00:45:47.720 We have great analysis with Ubay and General Flynn.
00:45:51.800 Now, you know, economics and the tradeoffs involved here.
00:45:55.200 This is, you know, President Trump's intuition is no more war.
00:45:58.860 Now, the Ukraine war has not ended in a day because the deep state actors are, you know, putting roadblocks in the way there.
00:46:08.040 Now, we've got a Middle East circumstance that's going to shift resources.
00:46:10.600 So, nobody better.
00:46:13.220 We've got, you know, I was in the Freedom Caucus, and now we've got the head of the State Freedom Caucus organization across all 50 states, Andy Roth.
00:46:23.840 Welcome to the war room.
00:46:25.460 If you want to just pivot off the war and the use of scarce resources and then all the other challenges and the big, beautiful bill, the floor is yours.
00:46:33.460 Welcome, Andy.
00:46:34.140 Hey, thanks, Dave.
00:46:36.060 It's good to see you.
00:46:37.000 You're an old friend, and I love what you did in the Freedom Caucus and everything that you've done since then.
00:46:42.380 Just to pick up from the last couple of interviews that you've had, I'd just make a comment that we can't afford foreign entanglement right now.
00:46:50.660 That's one of the reasons that Trump is so adamantly American first, is we've got to fix what's going on in our country.
00:46:56.960 Since post-9-11, we've spent $8 trillion, both in the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
00:47:05.360 And to put that in perspective, 8% would tack on another 20, 25% of our national debt.
00:47:13.280 We can't afford that right now.
00:47:15.100 And so, what we're trying to do in Congress, what the House Freedom Caucus is trying to do in Congress, is to push through this one big, beautiful bill.
00:47:22.660 And even though it's only $1.5 trillion worth of spending cuts, it's a start, and we've got to get going on it.
00:47:30.140 And here is the very fundamental secret to passing this.
00:47:35.160 It's getting the Senate Republicans on board.
00:47:38.900 They're the only ones that are stopping this.
00:47:42.040 And so, the war room posse, they are the backbone of this country.
00:47:46.020 They need to light up the phones of all of these Republicans who are addicted to the Biden green energy tax credits.
00:47:54.760 You know, it's an underreported, dirty secret right now that there are Republican governors all across the country who bashed Biden correctly for the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:48:09.160 They say he's a big government liberal that destroyed our country.
00:48:13.060 That's all correct.
00:48:14.260 But out of the other side of their mouth, they're taking all of those green energy tax credits, all of those subsidies, billions and billions of dollars, and they're bragging about it back home.
00:48:23.800 And the senators in those states are going along for the ride.
00:48:27.760 And so, they're the ones that are pushing back against the House-passed bill.
00:48:31.940 And so, whatever the Senate does, it needs to deliver not only on that bill, but make the cuts even larger.
00:48:38.120 And I'm worried to death-
00:48:39.320 Yeah, Andy, let me interrupt you.
00:48:40.880 Let me interrupt you on that green point, because I think, and you tell me if I'm connecting the dots right here, because I want to be accurate and fair.
00:48:50.900 The war room always wants the receipts.
00:48:52.840 But these tens of billions of dollars going to the green energy stuff, that stuff goes to the Department of Energy.
00:48:58.260 And if I'm not mistaken, it's the DOE money that's going to fund the NGOs in the domestic war in Los Angeles and across the country right now.
00:49:07.280 Am I connecting the dots correctly?
00:49:09.740 And if I am, these Republican senators, man, I wouldn't want to be them right now.
00:49:14.500 If we have those dots connected properly, and they are still pushing for the green energy, which is funding the deep state, woke and weaponized riots across our country,
00:49:25.200 Oh, my word, I would not want to be them. Do we have that right, Andy?
00:49:29.620 Yeah, I mean, at best, at best, these subsidies are going to companies that are building pipelines that aren't carrying oil and gas, but CO2.
00:49:41.540 And they're using eminent domain to take people's land away from them in order to build these pipelines.
00:49:47.560 At best, they're giving money to foreign companies that want to build electric vehicle plants and batteries and stuff in our country that go offshore.
00:50:01.600 That's at best. At worst, is exactly what you need to describe.
00:50:05.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:06.460 Right.
00:50:06.660 So there is absolutely no excuse at all for Republicans, Senate Republicans, to defend this garbage because the tentacles are deep.
00:50:18.460 It goes everywhere. And so we've got to stop it.
00:50:22.580 Yeah, yeah. And we got some heroes over there, right, on the cost-cutting side.
00:50:26.940 But when you say America can't afford it, you know, I ran on the budget stuff 12 years ago.
00:50:33.700 You know, people say they care about it nominally, but they won't vote for it.
00:50:36.880 They won't kick out of Congress their members who are voting for $7 trillion budgets repeatedly,
00:50:43.040 who are running $2 trillion budget deficit spending, stealing from the kids $2 trillion every year, deficit financed.
00:50:51.740 We're spending it now. The kids got to pay it back.
00:50:55.600 How do you convince the American people we cannot afford this?
00:50:59.660 I mean, a trillion dollars in interest payments is bigger than defense.
00:51:02.900 But make it real so that the war room shares this segment with all their friends and we can get some changes up on Capitol Hill.
00:51:12.080 All political commentaries of my own, by the way.
00:51:14.620 Andy, fire away. Two minutes to conclude.
00:51:16.300 I mean, the one big, beautiful bill does not take away people's benefits.
00:51:21.080 It does not touch Social Security or Medicaid, but it does go after the waste, fraud and abuse and the green energy tax credits that we have spent or that we have wasted over the last multiple decades.
00:51:34.160 The problem that we have right now isn't just because of Biden.
00:51:38.020 It's been decades of profligate spending and that profligate spending has created a deep state of just nefarious spending that's been going on for so long.
00:51:50.620 And what the big, beautiful bill does is just start to take a blade to all of that wasteful spending.
00:51:57.800 We can remove all of that spending.
00:52:00.520 We can go back to pre-COVID spending and nobody will feel it at all in a meaningful way.
00:52:07.080 But we have to do it because if we don't, we're going to be forced into wars we can't afford.
00:52:14.160 We're going to have sky high inflation.
00:52:16.480 It's going to be very, very ugly and it could be coming very, very soon into this summer and fall if we don't get our act together.
00:52:25.200 And I can't stress this enough.
00:52:27.700 It is going to be the Senate Republicans that are the problem.
00:52:31.340 Mike Rounds in South Dakota, Tom Tillis in North Carolina, Bill Cassidy in Louisiana.
00:52:39.580 These senators do not know what time it is in America and they have to deliver with these spending cuts.
00:52:46.020 And if they don't, we're going to have some serious problems ahead and it's going to hit everybody.
00:52:51.420 It's going to hit every family.
00:52:53.560 Very good.
00:52:54.360 But Andy Roth, State Freedom Caucus Network, look them up, right?
00:52:58.380 Get affiliated with them in your state, wherever you live.
00:53:02.120 These are the good guys.
00:53:03.200 They're fighting fiscal deficit hawks, spending hawks.
00:53:07.420 And they're what we need in this country.
00:53:09.460 It's not a sexy topic, but it needs to be done.
00:53:13.100 And don't let the Federal Reserve System off the hook either.
00:53:16.380 They've accommodated the $2 trillion budget deficits.
00:53:19.780 They're in charge of stable prices and employment.
00:53:23.540 They've failed grotesquely for the past 40 years.
00:53:26.660 Thanks for being with us on The War Room today.
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