Bannon's War Room - Episode 4564： Minnesota Killer Caught And Charged; Trump Says America Will Stay Out Of Iran

00:00:00.000 Great people, great people.

00:00:02.560 Has anyone changed any agreement since you spoke on the phone from the Oval Office?

00:00:06.740 How much?

00:00:07.660 No.

00:00:08.580 This is important.

00:00:09.680 May I ask you the escalation of Israel and Iran, that you are the key to unlocking that. 0.89

00:00:16.800 That's right.

00:00:17.260 And here I am.

00:00:18.120 And here you are.

00:00:19.040 So can I ask you, sir, have you spoken to Prime Minister Netanyahu?

00:00:25.020 When might you speak to him?

00:00:26.180 I've spoken to everybody.

00:00:27.420 What will you say?

00:00:28.320 Israel is doing very well, as you probably noticed.

00:00:33.920 And I gave Iran 60 days and they said, no. 0.99

00:00:40.780 And the 61st, you saw what happened.

00:00:43.240 Day 61.

00:00:45.600 So I'm in constant touch.

00:00:48.280 And as I've been saying, I think a deal will be signed or something will happen.

00:00:51.920 But a deal will be signed. 0.97

00:00:54.640 And I think Iran is foolish not to sign one. 0.98

00:00:57.240 Mr. President, Iran is like, what do you say today? 0.87

00:00:59.840 Do you think that's true?

00:01:01.080 No, no.

00:01:01.900 Look, Iran should have signed the deal.

00:01:04.320 If it would help bring Iran to the negotiating table, would you guarantee that the U.S. would not get involved militarily?

00:01:09.680 Well, I think this, I think Iran basically is at the negotiating table.

00:01:13.340 They want to make a deal.

00:01:15.100 And as soon as I leave here, we're going to be doing something.

00:01:18.620 But I have to leave here.

00:01:19.800 I have, you know, this commitment.

00:01:21.180 I have a lot of commitments.

00:01:22.120 I have a commitment to a lot of countries, including the U.K., where we just signed our deal.

00:01:26.320 Mr. President, Mr. President, are you settling on steel terms?

00:01:32.480 We're going to let you have that information in a little while.

00:01:37.680 On Russia, you say talks, sir, on U.S., Russia talks, when will they restart?

00:01:42.800 They're starting already.

00:01:44.100 Mr. President, do you want to bring the U.K. to apply more sanctions on Russia?

00:01:49.560 Well, Europe is saying that, but they haven't done it yet.

00:01:54.420 Let's see them do it first.

00:01:55.940 You told me earlier that you could sanction Russia.

00:01:58.760 Why wait?

00:01:59.620 Why wait to sanction them?

00:02:00.900 Because I'm waiting to see whether or not a deal is signed.

00:02:03.420 Can you guarantee the U.K. won't be such a...

00:02:05.280 And don't forget, you know, sanctions cost us a lot of money.

00:02:08.380 When I sanction a country, that costs the U.S. a lot of money, a tremendous amount of money.

00:02:13.600 It's not just, let's sign a document.

00:02:15.980 You're talking about billions and billions of dollars.

00:02:18.380 The sanctions are not that easy.

00:02:20.340 It's not just a one-way street.

00:02:21.860 And just quickly, do you think that Israel can...

00:02:24.020 Is that still proceeding to the initiative sort of working with that?

00:02:29.380 Yep, we're proceeding with that.

00:02:30.920 It's a really important deal to both of us.

00:02:32.700 I think the president is doing a review.

00:02:34.420 We did a review when we came into government, so that makes good sense to me.

00:02:37.860 But it's a really important...

00:02:39.100 We're very long-time partners and allies and friends,

00:02:42.840 and we've become friends in a short period of time.

00:02:45.600 He's slightly more liberal than I am, to put it much.

00:02:48.260 Oh, we stand slightly on the left.

00:02:50.120 But for some reason, we make it work.

00:02:52.560 Mr. President, was you just saying you've been playing giving the weight of arming Israel?

00:02:57.400 There's quite a few British soldiers who worry he side more with the Russians over the Ukraine war.

00:03:02.800 Can you reassure...

00:03:03.600 No, no, no, no.

00:03:04.600 I just...

00:03:04.980 You know what I said?

00:03:06.100 Saving lives.

00:03:07.580 I only care about saving lives. 0.98

00:03:09.400 We have nothing to do with it, except that Biden stupidly let us get into that mess 0.74

00:03:13.860 and gave him $350 billion. 0.85

00:03:16.340 And yet, despite that, you saw how we did in the Middle East.

00:03:21.980 We took it $5.1 trillion.

00:03:24.320 We have $15 trillion almost, looking around that number, going to be invested in the U.S.

00:03:30.160 So, the money is not the thing in this case.

00:03:32.880 It's 5,000 young people are being killed every week in Russia and Ukraine.

00:03:39.040 And if I can stop that, I'll be very happy.

00:03:41.180 They're Ukrainian and they're Russian.

00:03:43.340 So, you could say, what am I doing?

00:03:45.000 But I'd like to see if I could stop.

00:03:46.380 Do you think that Israel can help the United States military help?

00:04:02.780 Who said that?

00:04:03.480 No, I'm asking if you believe they can.

00:04:05.860 It's irrelevant.

00:04:07.220 Something's going to happen.

00:04:08.040 Have you spoken to the...

00:04:09.320 Yeah, but I think we're doing pretty well.

00:04:15.400 We're talking.

00:04:16.240 We have everything called a telephone, so we're talking.

00:04:19.340 But it's always better to talk in person.

00:04:22.660 Mr. President, do you want to see a crazy engine in Iran? 1.00

00:04:26.360 I want to see no nuclear weapon in Iran, and we're well on our way to making sure that happens. 0.81

00:04:31.960 We've had a discussion about that this morning.

00:04:33.940 There's a G7 absolute clarity in relation to the nuclear program.

00:04:38.080 We do not want to see it.

00:04:39.000 Mr. President, can you guarantee the U.K. will be protected from any future tariffs?

00:04:42.940 What?

00:04:43.480 Can you guarantee the U.K. will be protected from any future tariffs?

00:04:47.400 The U.K. is very well protected.

00:04:49.540 You know why?

00:04:50.740 Because I like them.

00:04:51.860 That's why.

00:04:52.660 That's their ultimate protection.

00:04:54.160 Thank you very much.

00:04:55.380 The prime minister's done a great job.

00:04:57.020 I want to just tell that to the people of the United Kingdom.

00:05:00.800 He's done a very, very good job.

00:05:02.440 You know, he's done what other people...

00:05:04.320 They've been talking about this deal for six years, right?

00:05:06.840 Six years.

00:05:07.080 And he's done what they haven't been able to do.

00:05:09.880 So he's done really a very good job.

00:05:11.700 You know, there's a response to Tucker Carlson criticizing you, saying that you were complicit in the war.

00:05:17.040 I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.

00:05:19.300 Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen.

00:05:22.800 And quickly, have you spoken with Zelensky before your bilass?

00:05:26.600 Yeah, a lot of them.

00:05:27.620 Japan?

00:05:28.020 A lot of them.

00:05:29.120 Could it happen?

00:05:29.920 Could it happen?

00:05:30.560 Could it happen to the Japanese, sir? 0.80

00:05:31.660 Well, we're going to get our state.

00:05:33.820 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:05:43.480 Pray for our enemies.

00:05:45.440 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:05:48.700 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:05:52.960 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:05:54.840 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:05:56.040 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that.

00:05:58.060 But you're not going to stop it.

00:05:58.980 It's going to happen.

00:06:00.260 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:03.660 Mega Media.

00:06:05.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:10.360 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:06:14.220 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:20.400 War Room.

00:06:21.420 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:06:26.040 It's Monday, 16 June, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:06:31.620 President of the United States showing a document right there.

00:06:33.700 They've signed the deal.

00:06:34.840 This is not an agreement to agree.

00:06:36.580 This is actually a deal with the United Kingdom, a trade deal.

00:06:39.960 President Trump and Sir Keir Starmer talking it up.

00:06:44.820 We'll get the details about everything.

00:06:46.300 President Trump quite excited about that.

00:06:48.420 Took a couple of shots at our good friend Tucker Carlson we had on a day in the war.

00:06:51.940 We'll get to all that.

00:06:52.600 We're going to go to Jerusalem in a moment.

00:06:54.920 Yoram Hazani to talk about all the developments there, including a really fiery interview with Jonathan Carl, ABC News.

00:07:02.580 But I want to start Minneapolis, the one and only Liz Collin of Alpha News.

00:07:08.080 Ma'am, the whole world is actually focused on Minneapolis today.

00:07:11.180 Walk us through.

00:07:12.000 You found the assassin.

00:07:14.580 Our guest, they still call him the alleged assassin, but the assassin.

00:07:18.440 Walk us through what is going on, ma'am.

00:07:21.880 Yeah, a lot of developments here, Steve.

00:07:24.000 Certainly within the last couple of days.

00:07:26.460 I know we spoke this weekend about this manhunt.

00:07:28.960 Well, that manhunt has since come to an end since we were able to speak after the horrific deaths of the highest ranking DFL member of the House, Melissa Hortman, and her husband, Mark.

00:07:40.740 They were killed, assassinated by Vance Bolter, who is now charged for their deaths and also the horrific attacks that took place at Senator Hoffman's home.

00:07:53.500 He was shot multiple times along with his wife.

00:07:55.540 So this man, Bolter, went ahead and he was impersonating a law enforcement officer when he went to these homes very early on Saturday morning.

00:08:05.900 We now since have learned that he stopped in total at four homes that morning in the course of about 90 minutes or so when these attacks took place very early Saturday morning.

00:08:16.680 So they unveiled at this press conference that took place just a couple of hours ago here in downtown Minneapolis.

00:08:23.720 They showed pictures of what they recovered from his vehicles that morning, including it was five different firearms, cash.

00:08:35.180 They first described this as a manifesto, but you're right, Steve, it was really more of a hit list.

00:08:40.440 Sixty members, past, present.

00:08:44.580 Some actually had been deceased.

00:08:46.980 Democrats were on that list.

00:08:48.720 Also a Planned Parenthood location and some other locations there as well.

00:08:53.880 We obtained this list through law enforcement sources and went ahead and released it after Bolter's capture just late last night.

00:09:03.860 It was about 1030 or excuse me, probably about 930 central time that he was spotted.

00:09:10.240 Well, finally was arrested in a cornfield, basically very close to his residence in Green Isle, Minnesota.

00:09:20.100 There was a large manhunt and they took him into custody.

00:09:25.000 He ended up raising his hands in the air, walking toward a bearcat, a SWAT vehicle and surrendering.

00:09:30.860 And he identified himself right away as Vance Bolter, putting an end to this nearly 48-hour manhunt, the largest manhunt in Minnesota state history.

00:09:41.460 Steve.

00:09:43.360 Do we have any idea, since there's not a manifesto, we understand he spied on people or these things were pretty planned.

00:09:50.980 Do we have any idea of why he decided to go assassinate some elected officials, ma'am, and stalked or at least looked like he had plans to assassinate others?

00:10:04.980 Yeah.

00:10:05.480 Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson took quite a few questions from reporters at this press conference.

00:10:10.160 But specifically, he said, you know, responding to reports of this manifesto written by Bolter, Thompson said he'd not seen anything like a Unabomber-style manifesto in his writings.

00:10:22.420 It sounds like they recovered some writings not only from his vehicle, but from his residence in Green Isle as well.

00:10:28.460 So they're sifting through all of that.

00:10:30.900 Nothing that seems to make any sense.

00:10:32.820 As the specific list that we've obtained at Alpha News does have this list of about 60 Democrats on it and then some Planned Parenthood locations.

00:10:43.560 It does seem that the paperwork suggests that he was in some sort of financial straits when all of this had been going on.

00:10:52.480 He was renting a room in Minneapolis where he would stay for the last two or three years just a couple of times a week.

00:10:58.740 And some neighbors I spoke with there said it was very odd.

00:11:01.280 He seemed to be dressing as a detective a lot.

00:11:04.660 And today we kind of connected some of those dots.

00:11:06.620 They were saying that he was surveilling a lot of these people.

00:11:10.600 He had a lot of ramblings and writings in regards to certain lawmakers.

00:11:15.960 And I expect that we'll probably get more on all of that connected to this court case.

00:11:21.240 But they're not even ruling out the death penalty at this point.

00:11:25.260 And he today seemed to sit in court kind of expressionless and did ask for a public defender saying that, you know, he could not afford an attorney at this time.

00:11:39.080 So still a lot more questions than answers in Minnesota here, I think.

00:11:43.580 Steve.

00:11:45.060 Last thing, we had a controversy on Saturday when we were on the show that they had swept all the social media.

00:11:50.380 It turns out there's some news items out there.

00:11:54.140 That Waltz had some social media posts.

00:11:56.080 They've been taken down.

00:11:56.860 Can you just give us up to speed on the social media and the relationship with Governor Walz?

00:12:01.380 Has that been clarified for people yet?

00:12:03.020 Yeah, we went ahead and reported he sat on this workforce board.

00:12:09.580 He was he was appointed first by Governor Mark Dayton to sit on this board and then was was reappointed by Governor Walz.

00:12:18.340 However, there are about more than 100 of these boards.

00:12:22.000 Many people sit on them.

00:12:24.240 Governor Walz has since come out and it sounds like told the Minnesota Star Tribune that he wasn't aware of who he was.

00:12:31.920 And we were actually seeing his social media, Vance Bolter's social media, sort of disappear in real time on Saturday morning.

00:12:39.960 And this is actually after they were releasing his his picture, because somehow after these horrific acts, he was able to get to a bank on Saturday morning at about 9 a.m.

00:12:52.160 And this is where you see the picture of him and his cowboy hat.

00:12:54.480 They released that that to the media.

00:12:56.460 But his his Facebook was taken down some other social media.

00:13:00.180 He was affiliated with a security company.

00:13:02.440 That Web site was was removed.

00:13:05.220 So, yeah, as far as as far as that connection, that's what we know at this point.

00:13:11.340 Liz, where do people go for Alpha News and where they go for your social media?

00:13:15.080 You're the axe in this space leading this story more than any other news source in the world.

00:13:20.880 So where do people go?

00:13:21.660 Alpha News dot org is the Web site.

00:13:24.800 You'll find us Alpha News MN on X and I'm at Liz Collin on X.

00:13:30.200 Sadly, I wish we just didn't have so much happening here in Minnesota, Steve, but but appreciate you having me on.

00:13:37.040 Fantastic.

00:13:37.580 Great reporting list.

00:13:38.380 Thank you.

00:13:41.300 If you haven't downloaded Alpha News, make sure you do it.

00:13:44.460 Any news coming out of Minnesota, Liz, who's a veteran of local Minnesota news for decades, is always ahead of the curve.

00:13:51.880 I've got a cold open compiled, compiled of an interview that Prime Minister Netanyahu gave to Jonathan Karl and then a couple of clips of Tucker Carlson.

00:14:02.100 And then my dear friend and colleague, Yoram Hazani, will join us.

00:14:05.300 Let's go ahead and do the cold open.

00:14:06.800 It's Tel Aviv.

00:14:07.420 I believe tomorrow it's New York.

00:14:09.280 Look, I understand America first. 0.60

00:14:11.180 I don't understand America dead.

00:14:13.160 That's what these people want. 0.97

00:14:14.440 They chant death to America.

00:14:16.340 So we're doing something that is in the service of mankind, of humanity.

00:14:20.200 And it's a battle of good against evil.

00:14:23.280 America does, should and does stand with the good.

00:14:26.360 That's what President Trump is doing.

00:14:28.700 And I deeply appreciate his support.

00:14:31.360 John Karl joins me now.

00:14:32.880 So, John, what else did he say about President Trump and how he wants the U.S. to play a role here?

00:14:37.700 Or did he?

00:14:38.920 Well, look, he praised President Trump over and over again in this interview.

00:14:43.160 He knows that he needs the United States support, at least in terms of doing what the U.S. is doing now,

00:14:49.120 which is helping Israel defend itself from those retaliatory attacks from Iran.

00:14:55.240 So it was all couched in a thank you, President Trump.

00:14:58.760 You've been Israel's best friend.

00:15:00.960 But he made it clear that he would like to see more.

00:15:04.900 He didn't come out and directly say it in those ways.

00:15:08.300 But what you heard, what you played right there, I understand America first.

00:15:12.280 I don't understand America dead.

00:15:15.120 He is really speaking to those in the Trump movement, those in the MAGA movement,

00:15:21.420 who are adamantly opposed to the United States getting involved in another Middle East conflict.

00:15:26.600 And as you know, Kira, there are some prominent voices, supporters, outside advisors of Donald Trump,

00:15:34.440 who are saying, don't get involved.

00:15:37.000 The United States can't be involved.

00:15:38.940 You campaigned against forever wars.

00:15:41.240 People like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk.

00:15:44.780 Those are, you know, close supporters of Donald Trump who are saying that they don't think the United States should be involved in this.

00:15:52.740 And Netanyahu, it seemed to me, by using their language, I understand America first.

00:15:57.920 I don't understand America dead, was speaking directly to Donald Trump and to his supporters who are critical of what Israel is doing.

00:16:06.980 I actually really love Trump.

00:16:08.540 I think he's a deeply humane, kind person.

00:16:10.640 And I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my country is going to be further weakened by this.

00:16:19.380 I think we're going to see the end of American empire, obviously.

00:16:22.060 Other nations would like to see that.

00:16:23.920 And this is a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the shoals of Iran. 0.87

00:16:28.100 But it's also going to end, I believe, Trump's presidency and effectively end it.

00:16:33.220 And so that's why I'm saying this.

00:16:35.300 What do you mean by that?

00:16:36.340 That's coming from you.

00:16:37.540 You get, look, I knew Bush.

00:16:39.140 I knew George W. Bush.

00:16:40.160 We had, you know, family connections to Bush.

00:16:42.100 I knew Bush.

00:16:43.480 Personally, I still see Bush sometimes.

00:16:46.340 And, you know, of course, he hates me.

00:16:49.800 And he does because I criticized him on Iraq.

00:16:53.180 And that war is the sum total from historical perspective of his administration.

00:16:58.280 But I knew him.

00:16:59.360 And he had all kinds of plans for the things that he wanted to do.

00:17:02.820 Domestically.

00:17:03.900 Domestically to improve the country.

00:17:05.260 Right.

00:17:05.620 And you may agree or disagree.

00:17:07.000 But, like, in his mind, he wasn't just about the invasion of Iraq in March of 2000.

00:17:11.720 Oh, no, no.

00:17:12.160 He was going to redo Social Security.

00:17:14.300 A hundred percent.

00:17:14.580 A hundred percent.

00:17:15.460 All types of things.

00:17:16.120 He was going to take care of the entitlements issue.

00:17:17.720 And he really thought it was going to work.

00:17:19.260 Yep.

00:17:19.440 And you could laugh at that or whatever.

00:17:20.900 But the point is, the second you get enmeshed in a real war, not a fake, let's go bomb the villagers and declare success. 0.97

00:17:28.580 We don't even have a good track record.

00:17:30.660 Like, why are the Houthis still there?

00:17:32.700 I mean, there's a whole other question, which is how prepared is the U.S. military for a real conflict?

00:17:37.740 And the answer is totally unprepared.

00:17:39.320 Scary unprepared.

00:17:40.200 I don't think people understand that.

00:17:41.300 But anyway, the only reason I'm saying any of this is because I really, really care.

00:17:49.980 Yoram Hazani joins us now from Jerusalem.

00:17:53.440 Yoram, thank you.

00:17:54.340 Particularly, it's the middle of the night there.

00:17:55.900 You're one of the leading experts in the world on nationalism.

00:17:58.580 Wrote the definitive one of the great books on it.

00:18:01.960 Walk me through.

00:18:03.060 Where do we stand right now?

00:18:05.300 What is this all about?

00:18:06.580 And before we get to the Bibi interview and to Tucker.

00:18:11.300 Yoram, you've got to unmute yourself.

00:18:24.740 Here we go.

00:18:26.240 Hear me?

00:18:27.840 Yes, we hear you now, sir.

00:18:30.720 Okay.

00:18:33.040 All right.

00:18:33.620 Well, we are reaching the climax of a campaign that began on October 7th, 2023.

00:18:40.580 Everybody remembers the days after the surprise attack from Gaza.

00:18:48.300 Prime Minister Netanyahu, his chief of staff, his defense minister, stood before the Israeli people night after night and before the world.

00:19:00.540 And they promised that this was going to be a long war.

00:19:05.600 They promised that the war was not going to end in Gaza or in Lebanon or in Yemen, but that it was going to once and for all reach Iran.

00:19:18.100 Now, you have to understand that many people in the United States, younger people are waking up, you know, just the last couple of months or the last few years, waking up to realize that there's been this longstanding warfare between Israel and Iran.

00:19:38.760 And many people don't realize how long this has been going or how deeply felt it is in the state of Israel.

00:19:46.340 Well, across the political spectrum, left and right, for the last 20 years, Iran has been considered to be the number one threat to the state of Israel and to the Jewish people.

00:19:58.140 The reason for this, among other things, is because the Iranians have never blushed about their goal to eradicate the state of Israel. 0.99

00:20:09.140 This is something that they say on a daily basis.

00:20:11.440 They chant it in their parliament.

00:20:14.620 And the goal of putting nuclear weapons and missile systems, ballistic missile systems, capable of delivering those weapons to the state of Israel and to other countries in the region and in Europe and beyond,

00:20:30.280 that is something that for 20 years, all Israeli leaders from all major parties have agreed cannot be allowed to happen.

00:20:37.440 So this is a very old story.

00:20:41.580 The first time that an American administration prevented Netanyahu and his cabinet from attacking the Iranian nuclear program was in 2010.

00:20:53.820 And there have been repeated incidents of this kind since then.

00:20:58.760 The state of Israel cannot live with a nuclear-armed Iran, and that's a wall-to-wall consensus. 0.87

00:21:06.240 So this is finally coming to a head.

00:21:09.180 And I have to say, just about President Trump, there have been a series of American presidents who have not allowed Israel to pursue this course. 0.71

00:21:18.660 And they've kicked the can down the road.

00:21:20.900 They've assumed that somehow it would be taken care of later, especially President Obama and President Biden considered Iran to be not an enemy, but a potential friend and ally that needed to be coddled and brought in.

00:21:37.400 President Trump is the first U.S. President Trump is the first U.S. president who has allowed the state of Israel to pursue its necessary actions for its own defense by seeking the, once and for all, the elimination of the Iranian nuclear program.

00:21:52.640 But his goal was to do it by negotiations, right?

00:21:58.800 And, you know, B.B. comes on Fox News on Sunday and basically lets the cat out of the bag.

00:22:04.660 Last week we were told it had to happen in 24 hours.

00:22:07.300 It had to happen on Thursday and Friday.

00:22:09.000 It had to happen.

00:22:10.060 That was the date because things are going to happen.

00:22:11.980 They've got bombs.

00:22:12.560 They've got ballistic missiles.

00:22:13.560 They've got nuclear bombs.

00:22:14.480 B.B. then says on Sunday night that, oh, when pressed by Brett Baird and not pressed that much, that intelligence had come different than Tulsi Gabbard had given publicly back in March where she said there's no real active program.

00:22:28.040 And no U.S. government official has ever countered that.

00:22:32.120 B.B. says, well, they've done some things.

00:22:34.400 We've got some intelligence.

00:22:35.480 And it would be, you know, they would have a bomb in 12 to 13 months, which is a mantra we've heard before.

00:22:41.380 So why was it about President Trump pursuing the course, the course he wanted was a negotiated deal, as he just said right there?

00:22:48.840 I'm talking to these guys.

00:22:49.720 I'm on the phone.

00:22:50.460 I want to negotiate a deal.

00:22:51.860 Why all of a sudden we have to go with where we have 12 to 13 months?

00:22:57.560 Steve, you and I both remember President Trump in his first speeches laying out this policy.

00:23:05.740 He was already saying it last December and January and February when he came into the administration.

00:23:11.380 President Trump, as far as I'm aware, has not budged an inch, not an inch.

00:23:16.880 His policy, he must have said this a hundred times, his policy was Iran cannot get a nuclear bomb.

00:23:24.120 If we can get it by negotiation, that's what we're going to do.

00:23:27.820 And if we can't get it by negotiation, then we're going to have to do it some other way.

00:23:32.320 We've all heard him say this over and over again.

00:23:35.000 And I don't know that there is some kind of a difficulty.

00:23:40.500 I think you feel this as much as I do, that the last few months have been kind of crazy on the MAGA right, like in terms of the things people are accusing one another of and saying.

00:23:53.020 But I think that any kind of a cold look at this would understand President Trump.

00:24:00.860 Let me be blunt.

00:24:02.120 Let me be blunt.

00:24:02.820 I totally disagree.

00:24:03.680 Don't spin this in the MAGA.

00:24:05.200 What's been a problem is the really awful military campaign running Gaza just stretches on and on and on.

00:24:14.560 We back Israel more than anybody.

00:24:17.200 And the question still is, why did it have to go Thursday and Friday night?

00:24:21.020 And now we know it's regime change.

00:24:22.500 The problem the MAGA right has with this, it looks like a crass political move by Bibi Netanyahu, who is vastly unpopular in Israel.

00:24:33.360 I think his popularity is 30 percent.

00:24:35.620 He has a problem with his coalition together.

00:24:37.480 And this was a blatant political move to try to save himself politically.

00:24:42.060 And if he has to throw the region into a shooting war and needs the United States to come in, then he'll do it, sir.

00:24:47.320 Look, Steve, part of what's difficult, look, you've known me for a while.

00:24:57.060 NatCon is my movement.

00:24:58.300 MAGA is my movement.

00:24:59.540 I'm a nationalist conservative.

00:25:00.880 I'm not one of these people who is out there pounding the pavement for America to be involved in this war or in any war.

00:25:09.100 But I do think that over the last few months, there's been a change in the sources of information that people are using on the right in order to discuss the Middle East.

00:25:19.640 I don't fully understand it, but I do know that at least one of our mutual friends said publicly on social media that he reads Haaretz every day.

00:25:31.040 And reading Haaretz is literally reading the Israeli communists.

00:25:37.080 And the distortions that you get from information, if that's the sources of information, are problematic.

00:25:44.120 So let's take this example that Tucker brought up the supposed 30 percent popularity rating of Bibi Netanyahu.

00:25:50.780 So I heard that this evening and I went and I checked it.

00:25:53.920 And the most recent polls put Bibi Netanyahu at 54 percent with 30 points ahead of Naftali Bennett, who is the number two contender for the prime ministership.

00:26:05.540 Okay, 30 point spread.

00:26:07.820 So Bibi, and by the way, if you go back a month or two and take a look at the same poll before the war, you'll see that it was almost exactly the same.

00:26:17.960 There's been nobody anywhere near Bibi Netanyahu in terms of popularity as far as appropriateness to be the prime minister of the state of Israel for years.

00:26:29.040 And so, look, we have to get back to the point where all of us, NatCon, nationalist, conservative people, we have different views on different things.

00:26:39.120 But we've got to get back to the point where we're having a reasonable conversation where the information that we're using is information that's based on facts.

00:26:49.080 That's unfortunately not what's happening the last couple of months.

00:26:53.220 What is the facts?

00:26:56.980 This was put forward that it had to happen last Thursday and Friday, right?

00:27:01.600 There's something come up that it had to go.

00:27:03.720 This is why this emergency meeting, all of a sudden you had to go.

00:27:07.840 This intelligence was shared.

00:27:09.500 And did he not say on Bret Baier that this would come to fruition, a potential bomb with a ballistic missile 12 to 13 months from now?

00:27:18.480 There's just this huge disconnect.

00:27:20.780 There's a huge disconnect between what's being said one time and then kind of a reverse course.

00:27:27.560 I didn't hear the Bret Baier interview.

00:27:30.880 And I also don't think that it's my job.

00:27:33.840 Look, I'm not an employee of the Israeli government, and I don't feel the need to defend absolutely everything that Prime Minister Netanyahu says.

00:27:43.180 I don't know what happened in the particular meeting that we're talking about, and I don't know how the decision was made.

00:27:49.940 But I do know something that I think, to my mind, is much more important, which is that 75 percent of Israelis support this war. 0.61

00:27:58.380 And the reason, that's as of last night, the reason that 75 percent of Israelis support this war is because for 20 years we've been living with the threat of the development of nuclear weapons by the Iranian regime.

00:28:14.520 For the Israeli public, the Israeli public doesn't know and frankly doesn't care whether the breakout was supposed to be in four or five days or in four or five weeks or in four or five months.

00:28:26.460 What nobody argues about at all is that the Iranians want a nuclear weapon, that they're working on building it as hard as they could for all of these years.

00:28:38.200 And for Israelis, that's an existential threat. 0.96

00:28:40.720 Now, it may be that there are people in the United States who, at this point, have something of a revisionist view.

00:28:47.220 They've been reading hearts and they don't remember that just a few months ago it was a matter of consensus between nationalist conservatives.

00:28:54.700 You know, America, Europe, India, Israel, everybody knew that Iran was seeking to become the hegemon, the dominant player in the Middle East, that it was supplying proxy terrorist organizations and that it was seeking a nuclear weapon.

00:29:13.820 There wasn't any kind of secret about this.

00:29:16.480 This has been discussed for 15 years openly.

00:29:19.400 So if Netanyahu made a decision that it was now or never, because Trump had said, this is what the Israeli public is hearing in any case, Trump said that the Iranians had 60 days to come to a deal.

00:29:36.280 After 61, something terrible was going to happen.

00:29:38.600 And if you get to day 61, it's entirely possible that Netanyahu says, and his cabinet, they say, look, it's now or never.

00:29:48.220 We don't have another opportunity.

00:29:50.260 So as far as I'm concerned...

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00:33:15.220 So, Yoram, tell me, is it Haaretz?

00:33:18.740 Haaretz? 0.59

00:33:19.420 Why is that a suboptimal news source?

00:33:23.900 Haaretz? 0.59

00:33:24.580 Haaretz is the—represents the leftmost 5% of the Jewish population in the state of Israel.

00:33:35.060 It's a newspaper with a very small circulation.

00:33:39.780 It has a great deal of prestige because it's read by our lefty elite classes.

00:33:49.240 But look into it.

00:33:51.340 Not only is it historically Haaretz a newspaper that opposed the establishment of the state of Israel, the Shokin family that founded it.

00:34:00.700 They were anti-Zionists.

00:34:03.140 They were against the establishment of the state of Israel.

00:34:05.720 It is a newspaper that has, over the years, fought tooth and nail for what we in Israel call post-Zionism, for the elimination of the Jewish character of the state, for the elimination of the right of return to Jews to the state of Israel.

00:34:25.060 And on political issues, like I say, something on the order of up to half of their writers and editors are members of the Israel Communist Party.

00:34:40.400 You're reading party line when you're reading Haaretz.

00:34:45.620 It makes no sense that any conservative of any kind, nationalist, traditionalist, Christian, Jewish, anybody with any kind of a feeling for the Jewish and Christian inheritance of the West, would soak their brain daily in a propaganda sheet of that kind. 0.56

00:35:08.260 I mean, imagine somebody from another country coming to the United States and saying, yeah, I read the New York Times.

00:35:20.400 That's not a fair analogy because the New York Times is far to the right of Haaretz.

00:35:24.580 But if somebody said to you, I know America because I read the New York Times every day, you'd say, come on, give me a break.

00:35:30.700 What's wrong with you?

00:35:32.020 Haaretz is far, far to the left and always has been of the New York Times.

00:35:36.680 Haaretz teaches the New York Times how to be leftist.

00:35:41.760 I know you've got to bounce in the middle of the night, and we've got Sam Fettis and a bunch of people.

00:35:46.320 The MAGA right, I think a lot of people would say, hey, we have no problem at all.

00:35:50.700 Israel's a nation.

00:35:51.820 It's got its sovereignty.

00:35:53.400 Whatever it's got to do, obviously, and they have this war right now against the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza.

00:35:58.780 If they feel that they're threatened immediately with some sort of breakout and their intelligence tells them that, that they have no problem with Israel doing what a sovereign nation can do.

00:36:10.520 The issue is that that is predicated upon at least air defense by the United States and now tremendous pressure on President Trump to actually go on to air offensive sorties, combat sorties.

00:36:24.800 The Nimitz battle group is en route from the South China Sea.

00:36:28.000 We're forward deploying a bunch of tanker, you know, refueling assets, air refueling assets.

00:36:36.220 What is your response to people who say, hey, look, whatever you guys do, go do it.

00:36:40.360 Just like in Gaza, we said, hey, if you've got to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible.

00:36:44.680 What's your answer to people?

00:36:45.620 But we want absolutely no involvement with it, sir.

00:36:48.640 My first answer is, like I said before, is gratitude.

00:36:53.720 Thank God that we have President Trump instead of a President Biden or Obama who is allowing Israel to take care of very basic security needs that for decades have been put off.

00:37:09.680 With regard to American involvement, I'm aware, as you are, that lots of people are saying lots of different things.

00:37:16.760 I would like to repeat the official position of the Israeli government.

00:37:23.980 I'll quote two people who are old friends, Giron Saar, the foreign minister, and Tzahi Hanegbi, the national security advisor, both people who I've known for many years.

00:37:35.260 And they're good men.

00:37:36.800 And in the last couple of days, they've said clearly and repeatedly, this operation was designed to be blue and white.

00:37:44.200 That's how Hanegbi put it.

00:37:45.600 It's designed to be an operation that Israel can pull off by itself. 0.85

00:37:50.400 Now, anybody who's following this a little bit understands that there are some things that would be easier for the Americans to do than for the Israelis. 0.72

00:38:02.480 But that doesn't mean that the Americans have to do it.

00:38:05.700 It doesn't mean that they have any kind of obligation.

00:38:07.560 Israel believes, and before I got on this evening, I called a military officer, a friend of mine, just to make sure that I'm updated on what people are thinking.

00:38:23.120 What people are thinking is, take that underground nuclear facility in Fardau, which is the subject that everybody's been talking about, that it's a deep underground, and there's no way that Israel can do it.

00:38:37.220 And the Israelis know that the Americans are going to have to do it.

00:38:39.760 Look, obviously, the B-2 can take it out better than Israel can. 1.00

00:38:43.960 But that's entirely not the point.

00:38:46.120 What's going to happen if Americans say, no, we're not going to do it?

00:38:49.680 Israel's going to go after it. 0.61

00:38:51.180 And I went through a number of scenarios with them.

00:38:54.180 I don't think it makes sense to detail them here.

00:38:57.040 But let's just say there are aerial scenarios where Israel has techniques that it believes it can use to get through, to get to the bottom of that mountain and eliminate that nuclear base.

00:39:09.700 There are all sorts of scenarios that involve ground forces, and I won't go into this further.

00:39:14.520 Israel has the ability to take out every single facility that we need to take out. 0.96

00:39:21.340 The only question is how risky, how hard is it going to be?

00:39:25.060 And as I told you in the break, nobody has ever heard me calling for American troops to be sent not into Iraq and not into Afghanistan, not into Serbia.

00:39:38.580 Never.

00:39:39.260 I've never called for any of these.

00:39:40.880 I'm a tremendous skeptic, just like you are.

00:39:43.420 But Israel, as you say, Israel has things that it's got to do.

00:39:47.060 And America needs to make its own decisions.

00:39:49.080 It's a sovereign country.

00:39:50.380 I completely understand my MAGA friends who don't want to get involved in another Middle Eastern war.

00:39:55.840 100% understand it.

00:39:57.880 It's going to make it a little bit harder for Israel, but the Israelis are ready to do it. 1.00

00:40:02.840 It's our war. 0.90

00:40:03.660 We know what we need to do.

00:40:05.500 Everybody agrees on what we need to do.

00:40:07.240 And I think that we also have what we need to be able to do it, even if it'll be a little bit harder to do it our way.

00:40:16.440 Yoram, where do people get your writings?

00:40:18.560 Where do they keep up with you on social media?

00:40:20.160 You can follow me on Twitter, at YHazoni, Y-H-A-Z-O-N-Y. 0.76

00:40:27.640 Please take a look at the new second edition of The Virtue of Nationalism, which I think will have a lot to say.

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00:40:39.540 By the way, it's a must-read, one of the foundational texts in the nationalist movement.

00:40:46.620 Yoram, thank you so much for staying up in the middle of the night in Jerusalem.

00:40:49.800 Thank you, sir.

00:40:50.340 Appreciate you.

00:40:51.120 God bless you.

00:40:51.840 Bye.

00:40:53.560 Sam Faddis, we always call on.

00:40:55.380 Sam, you got a piece on Substack that got my attention.

00:40:59.240 And help me out here, brother.

00:41:00.800 Tulsi Gabbard is, because this gets down to a very confusing situation.

00:41:04.460 You see, even with Yoram, we don't agree on certain basic facts, but that's okay.

00:41:09.540 About the intel here, Tulsi Gabbard testified, I think on 25 March, that there was no program.

00:41:17.600 They hadn't reinitiated a program, and that was kind of the official intelligence party line of the Trump administration.

00:41:25.820 You're saying there's been a breakdown of intelligence in your Substack piece, which is quite brilliant.

00:41:31.580 You're saying your money right now is on Israelis. 0.55

00:41:34.460 Can you walk us through what the breakdown you think is, and why do you think their intelligence may be better than ours?

00:41:41.400 Well, yeah, I mean, let's start with this.

00:41:43.140 Up front, you know, I'm not trashing Tulsi Gabbard, who I don't know.

00:41:47.100 She's the DCI, she's the head of the intelligence community, but what's she doing?

00:41:51.600 She's presenting to Congress an official report that is a joint product of all the intelligence agencies.

00:41:57.680 So she's reading a document that was written for her.

00:42:02.000 But this is CIA, DIA, NSA, everybody in the world comes together, and she delivers this presentation the end of March.

00:42:10.300 It's a required product, and it says there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program, and in effect, short version, there hasn't been one since 2003.

00:42:20.040 So that's, that's what, that's two and a half months ago, and now we have the Israelis bombing everything in Iran. 0.58

00:42:30.500 In the Israeli line is not just as, is there a nuclear weapons program, but there has been a nuclear weapons program, and it's really close to fruition.

00:42:41.920 Now, I take your point that their, their definition of how close it is to fruition seems to have danced around recently.

00:42:51.360 But even taking that into account, these, it'd be pretty hard to imagine two conclusions that are more diametrically opposed.

00:43:01.720 I mean, we're saying as an intel community.

00:43:03.520 This is not a, this is not a, this is not, it's either one of, I mean, ours is pretty adamant, and it hasn't been updated by anybody publicly.

00:43:10.740 The other is that, and this is where it came out of nowhere, like on Thursday, I mean, it had been rumored, and people have been talking.

00:43:17.760 I know there's been meetings in the White House and others, but all of a sudden, Thursday night, we're going for a early Friday morning bombing because something's happening this weekend.

00:43:26.860 So how do we have that, I mean, how can those both be absorbed by decision makers at the National Security Council and people that are advising the president on matters of war and peace?

00:43:39.240 Yeah, well, I mean, there's, that's the question, right?

00:43:43.700 I mean, we, we were just told they don't have a program, not just they're further away from it than the Israelis claim.

00:43:52.000 They don't have a program.

00:43:53.240 And in effect, our assessment was they haven't had a program since 2003.

00:43:58.480 Now the Israelis are saying we got to bomb the hell out of them right now because they're about to pop one off and have an active arsenal. 0.99

00:44:05.960 Again, pretty hard to imagine two more diametrically opposed assessments.

00:44:10.700 Now, based on the totality of what I know and my experience, I unfortunately think the Israelis are closer to the truth, but maybe more to the point, it seems pretty clear that even though our intelligence community said there wasn't a nuclear weapons program, that all of a sudden our entire national security apparatus is acting like there is one, right? 0.98

00:44:34.400 We didn't respond to this by saying, you guys are a bunch of crazy people, what the heck are you bombing? 0.95

00:44:40.280 There is no program. 0.84

00:44:42.260 And as you noted, you know, there's been all sorts of reports that we're moving aerial refueling assets by the dozens in toward the Middle East as if we're prepping ourselves to potentially jump into this thing, which I am not a fan of.

00:44:59.300 But all of that suggests that we think the Israelis are a heck of a lot closer to the truth than we are. 0.92

00:45:07.420 And frankly, it scares the hell out of me because intelligence is power, right?

00:45:14.720 If we're relying upon the Israelis to be the ones who tell us what's going on and we don't have a clue, then we're effectively held hostage to them. 0.98

00:45:27.080 And look, I've worked with the Israelis, their allies, I support the state of Israel, but I support the United States more.

00:45:35.300 And we shouldn't be in a position of basically being blind and having to trust that the Israelis are telling us the truth all the time and that we can rely upon them.

00:45:46.940 We should also keep in mind, by the way, they are human, too.

00:45:50.660 They're not 10 feet tall.

00:45:52.120 They somehow managed to miss a Hamas offensive that was put together on the other side of a wall right next to their country. 0.58

00:46:00.440 So it would be a really good idea if we had our own intelligence and we didn't have to just have them tell us what's going on.

00:46:07.220 Yeah.

00:46:07.300 Real quickly, we've got about a minute.

00:46:09.440 I know your other thing you do in your spare moments, you're one of the leaders of the MAGA, America First, Patriot movement in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

00:46:18.400 When B.B. Netanyahu tells Jonathan Karl, ABC News, this is not about America First, this is about America Dead, give me 30 seconds.

00:46:24.940 How does that sit with you, Sam Faddis?

00:46:27.500 Yeah, it doesn't sit well, man.

00:46:31.140 We don't need a foreign leader telling us when we get to stand up for ourselves.

00:46:36.600 And I live in a part of the country where it has given a lot of blood over the last 20 years to foreign wars.

00:46:44.260 So we're prepared to fight, but we would really like to know why we're fighting and what are we fighting for.

00:46:51.540 Sam Faddis, where do people go get your amazing analysis, sir?

00:46:54.740 And magazine at Substack, so andmagazine.substack.com.

00:47:01.960 Sam Faddis, you're a patriot and a hero, sir.

00:47:04.720 Thank you for joining us today.

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00:49:44.740 We'll go through all of it.

00:49:46.540 Natalie, the Rumble chat nominated you to come forward.

00:49:50.840 And you have one or two things you would like to make as observations to my friend and colleague, Yoram, in Jerusalem.

00:49:59.980 Your thoughts, ma'am?

00:50:02.000 Sure.

00:50:02.520 Well, first and foremost, you and Tucker this morning, that was absolutely wonderful programming.

00:50:08.320 I've watched it so many times.

00:50:10.440 But I would like to, I think, respectfully push back on what Yoram Hazoni was trying to pitch to our audience.

00:50:18.460 I think, frankly, you lose the argument when your first line of attack is sort of in line with the left wing's idea that the sourcing of your information,

00:50:28.300 whether it's misinformation or disinformation or it's just some, you know, far left news outlet,

00:50:32.500 that that's why Americans are so misguided on this sort of Iranian, I think, which has become a flashpoint for what is a broader discussion about where our priorities,

00:50:42.860 whether it's financial or otherwise or other regions, when it comes down to Israel and the Middle East.

00:50:47.940 Frankly, I think what is going on with Israel, it's not rooted in misinformation or some far left Israeli narrative being spun.

00:50:55.100 One, what you're talking about right now is President Trump having the opportunity and the ability to, I think, really push through the kinetic codification of what he has done in terms of burden sharing

00:51:07.160 and the idea of getting European countries, whether it's to pay their fair share via NATO, to actually pitch in to defense with Ukraine,

00:51:15.380 to actually have these countries follow through on what very well may be flimsy or hyperbolic rhetoric, right,

00:51:22.100 like you've been alluding to, Tulsi Gabbard, talking about sort of the weird, you know, struck up out of nowhere idea that now suddenly we've hit the, you know, point of no return when it comes to Iranian nuclear capabilities.

00:51:34.960 But what is, I think, so different is that this is the Trump administration's ability to, I think, actually put America first

00:51:46.220 and sort of triumph and prevail over these forces and realizing that there are different geographic definitions of what nationalism is.

00:51:54.080 And Yoram Hazzoni, who's done wonderful work through NatCon, but he is Israeli. 0.99

00:51:58.120 And I don't say that pejoratively.

00:51:59.600 It's a matter of fact.

00:52:00.800 And what he thinks America's response should be through the paradigm of what suits Israel is going to be different from what you and I think because we're American.

00:52:08.520 And that's the core idea of what it means to be a member of the MAGA movement, right, that your citizenship means something.

00:52:13.740 It's why we're so opposed to H-1B visas.

00:52:17.040 And to link this to the story that I know you want to get into, talking about who's been funding a lot of these left-wing protesters and rioters in L.A.,

00:52:24.500 particularly one group, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, we can toss the picture up on screen.

00:52:29.800 Right, this is a group that now we've just...

00:52:32.100 But hang on one second. Hang on one second.

00:52:34.040 I think that was tremendous in the rumble chat.

00:52:36.540 I appreciate you being the stepping forward.

00:52:38.600 What we should be focused on, as I said with Tucker today, and I said when I did Tucker's podcast, which should be up in a while,

00:52:46.060 is that of all these things we're working on, the main battlefront here is our sovereignty, citizenship, sealing the border,

00:52:55.060 and mass deportations of these illegal alien invaders.

00:52:57.900 And you're seeing this fight all across.

00:52:59.320 The next three people...

00:53:00.300 And I've been saying we need to pivot away from this, because part of this whole thing with Iran or Persia is to distract us, is to get us off this. 1.00

00:53:09.720 And so I've got you, I've got John Lott has an amazing story, and Steve Cortez has some incredible polling that he and his organization have done.

00:53:17.100 So as a piece, I want to go through this.

00:53:19.940 I want to start...

00:53:20.600 We've got a couple minutes here.

00:53:21.440 I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:53:23.380 The finance...

00:53:24.080 We have a war we have to win.

00:53:26.220 And Stephen Miller says this, in the streets of Los Angeles, and President Trump last night, as you said, as you know, Natalie,

00:53:33.500 doubled and tripled down, said we're going to increase the ice raids in these big sanctuary city centers.

00:53:39.780 We're not going to stop, and we're going to be quite public about it.

00:53:43.020 There is a counter-narrative of who's actually financing this and funding this.

00:53:47.640 Take it away, because I think people are going to be shocked about who's actually...

00:53:51.440 Because we're at a civil war here, or near a civil war level of intensity when we go into these major cities.

00:53:57.960 Who's actually a Guinness, ma'am?

00:54:01.840 Well, I think your, you know, use of the word war, that's sort of where I was going.

00:54:06.100 We are letting the same people who are funding these left-wing NGOs, the groups that orchestrated the invasion at the southern border,

00:54:12.220 now determine, again, people who don't believe in sovereignty, don't believe in borders, tell us that we should be at war,

00:54:18.660 and that Iran is our new enemy, and that we need to just blindly support escalation into kinetic conflict, right, in that region.

00:54:25.680 And I think in the same way that all of these, whether it's the left-wing sort of NGO groups that have been funding,

00:54:31.660 whether it's groups like the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, all the far-left groups, the Tides Foundation, the Tides Center, the Open Society Foundations,

00:54:38.820 those people don't care about sovereignty, and now all of a sudden they're the same people who are funding the experts

00:54:44.680 that are saying that the United States somehow to defend Israeli sovereignty needs to get dragged into another conflict in the Middle East.

00:54:51.560 I mean, I'm old enough to remember when, what was it, the Biden regime over at the Pentagon was busy ramming through Iranian spies,

00:54:58.380 and then once they were outed, they were busy working overtime to ensure that they could keep their clearances.

00:55:04.040 So all of these people who are making up the rules of what kinetic conflict looks like,

00:55:07.920 it's not altruism, it's not rooted in defending the nation-state, it's about profit, it's about power.

00:55:13.360 Case in point, what Iran has done, read the nuclear program, I'd like to introduce them to the Chinese Communist Party,

00:55:20.160 which they're all in business with, they have no problem taking money from them, right? 0.96

00:55:24.220 It's totally hypocritical.

00:55:26.720 And by the way, the PRC is far more advanced in that realm, they effectively own Iranian airspace. 0.84

00:55:31.840 You want to talk about what would happen if we actually got involved in a shooting war there and shot down a Chinese plane?

00:55:36.240 These people don't care. 0.98

00:55:37.900 They should be focusing on the rare earths, they should be focusing on the actual economic warfare, infiltration, not invasion.

00:55:43.320 But these people don't care. 0.98

00:55:45.020 The same people who orchestrated the invasion at the southern border now want your children and grandchildren to die

00:55:50.480 in battlefields abroad and battlefields galore in the name of, it's not even just profit, that's reductive,

00:55:56.860 but it's disgusting and it's tired, and I wish these people would stop shilling and pushing these narratives

00:56:02.040 that are just insulting to my intelligence and to our audience's intelligence.

00:56:06.820 Natalie, stick around.

00:56:08.040 We've got Natalie Winters, John Lott, about what deportations are doing to murder rates throughout the country.

00:56:13.100 You're going to be quite surprised.

00:56:14.280 Steve Cortez with amazing polling.

00:56:16.080 Also, we're going to talk to one of the world's top experts on my favorite topic, artificial intelligence.

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Bannon's War Room - June 17, 2025

Episode 4564： Minnesota Killer Caught And Charged; Trump Says America Will Stay Out Of Iran

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