Episode 4575: Bloomberg Confirms Trump Voters Are Growing
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Summary
Stephen K. Broun and David Drucker discuss why working class Black men are more likely to vote for the Republican Party than other groups of voters, and why the shift toward the GOP may not be temporary. They also talk about what it means for the future of the Democratic Party.
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for Bloomberg is titled, Black men's shift toward the GOP may not be fleeting. So as we talk about
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Democrats, they need to talk to their own members of their, traditionally members of their own base.
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You're arguing here, and tell us more about it, that the inroads that Trump made this time around
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may last. Well, they may and they may not. I think what is interesting to understand here is Black
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men still remain overwhelmingly Democratic, but that the shift was significant when you're dealing
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with elections decided by two points or less. That happened nationally. It happened in key swing
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states. And I think what was very interesting about this was that, especially for working class
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Black men, they're no different than any other voter. And what they have been saying this year,
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not just the day after the election or before the election, but within the last six, seven weeks in
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focus groups, is that the economy matters to them, that they think the Democratic Party has overreached
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and over-focused on social issues and cultural issues that they don't necessarily agree with,
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and that they don't want just appeals to them as Black men. They want, just like any other voter,
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appeals to them as men who want to make a living and support their family. Those are the verbatims
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in the focus groups. And I think it's one of the things that, again, we overcomplicate this.
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You go to people that have concerns, you listen to those concerns, and you offer them solutions
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to those concerns. And often, when we look at politicians that get elected or rise, and we're
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wondering how did this flawed candidate, whether it's Donald Trump, or let's say you're a center-left
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Democrat in New York, not progressive, but just center-left, and you're wondering how Zoran
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Mondani is rising. And it's usually because people feel like they have quality of life issues.
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And I don't know if I agree with what this person is proposing, but at least they're proposing
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something. And at least they're showing that they care. It's something that Donald Trump has done in
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the Republican Party, but also for a lot of independents at times, which then gets them to
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sort of overlook all of his flaws. And it's something that we see from time to time with Democrats.
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I would say, finally, you know, when you look at the problems in our politics, voters have a lot
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of say in this. But it would also be helpful, on the one hand, to have presidents that could show
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restraint, not just do things because they either can or can get away with it. And also, ironically,
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to have a United States Congress that would exert the power the Constitution gives it. We see on both
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sides of the aisle a parliamentary approach where if my guy's in the White House, I'm just not going to
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say no. They can take power away from us. And we're going to let them, because we agree with what
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they're doing. You need Republicans and Democrats in Congress to tell their own presidents, I know we
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agree. I would like to get there. We don't have the votes. This belongs to us. You can't do it.
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And nobody wants to do that kind of hard work in Washington.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the
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big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Friday, 20 June, Year of the Lord, 2025. Thank you for sticking around for the second hour of the
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morning show. David Drucker, The Dispatch. And I keep telling people we're so distracted by,
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or at least distracted by, the war toxins of Fox News that now that we broke the fever and President
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Trump is actually thinking this thing through, taking the time to think it through and looking
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at alternatives, particularly maybe coercive diplomacy, right? We can focus on what's important.
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David Drucker had one of the most important stories of the week that unfortunately didn't get
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the exposure that it needs. Drucker, this thing was on Bloomberg in the buried lead,
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which you just said there on your hit, I think on MSNBC, was working class black men are no different
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than other voters. Why are they coming in your analysis? Why specifically are black men now
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attracting? It's not the GOP. It's the MAGA movement in President Trump. Why do you think
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that you're seeing a gravitational shift or a tectonic plate shift of working class black men
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to the MAGA movement, sir? So it's a very interesting phenomenon. We should be clear
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at the outset that they were still the third most loyal Democratic voter percentage-wise,
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right? Overwhelming amount of the Democrat, of the black male vote went to Democrats. But when you have
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elections decided by two points or less, as this one was, as it was in the swing states and nationally,
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a shift of four or five points is a really big deal. And why did it happen? I think two reasons. I mean,
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probably many. But I think for the purposes of our discussion, Stephen, we can boil it down to this.
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One, the Democratic Party overreached and over-focused on hot-button cultural issues
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that weren't top of mind for just about any voter, but definitely not for black men,
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number one. And when you play coalition politics, voters will put up with a lot, but it's where you
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focus. And black men, like the majority of voters last year, not all, but the majority by far,
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were focused on inflation and the economy and public safety as it relates to just both regular public
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safety in the streets of America and also as it relates to the southern border. And so that brings
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us to the second part of this. Democrats weren't speaking enough to those concerns, let alone
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whether we want to argue over their solutions. Part of the problem was they just didn't focus on it
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enough. A lot of times voters will be fine with insufficient solutions if they think you care
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and are offering something. But then the second part of this is President Trump did focus on these
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things. And in a sense, he relentlessly focused on them to the exclusion of a lot of these hot-button
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cultural issues. And for some black men, we're seeing an exhaustion with identity politics, meaning
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they're just a little bit tired of everything being about, here's what we have for black people and
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Hispanic people and pick your ethnic group. And they just want somebody who says, listen, I know you
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want a job. I know you want to make a living. I know you want to support your family. And the point
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I've been trying to make is that makes them like any other voter. And so you also have, I think, with
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Trump, he's just not an ideological conservative. He's not a philosophical conservative. He is conservative
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on some things. But I think for some voters, the fact that he is less ideological, in a sense, to
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them, he's kind of moderate and centrist, notwithstanding how Democrats and some others look at his
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behavior. When you look at the policies, he just doesn't seem like an ideologue to a lot of these
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voters that have given him a shot. And so I think it's these two factors, one party not focusing on the
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right things, one party focusing on the right things. And we look at politics, we think it's
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fixed. We get caught in these patterns where we're like, well, this is just the way things are.
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But if you look at the history of this country, there have been political movements and shifting
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coalitions. So it'll be interesting to see what happens in 2026 with the midterms, but also 2028 with
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the next presidential election, when Trump will not be on the ballot. And we'll see if the next
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Republican nominee can hold the coalition together the way the way the president has.
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Of course, of course, that's heresy here in the worm. We'll believe that we did. We digress. David,
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as you as you observe, we won't go there today. As you observe this now, I don't know if you call
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it a civil war inside the Democratic Party, given what your analysis says and what you just said right
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there. As you look at what the Democrats are talking about today and working on today, do you see anybody
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or any group over there that's addressing these core issues of what working class black men say
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matter to them, which is, guess what? Border security, immigration, you know, because the numbers came out
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from Treasury yesterday, working class, blue collar people, two percent wage growth. A big part of that
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was stopping illegal immigration. Do you see anything right now in this burgeoning civil war
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on the Democratic side as they try to think through Trump's victory in the new coalition,
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the 1932 type coalition we're trying to put together on a permanent basis? Is anybody or anything
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you hear over on the Democratic side addressing these issues? Yes. And that's the interesting thing
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here is there are a lot of Democrats, both groups and operatives and other classes of professionals,
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elected officials that are working on trying to figure this out and right the ship with the party
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so that it's more competitive in national elections. They don't always get the headlines. And sometimes
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these efforts can take a long time because ultimately it sort of rests on what kind of candidates you
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nominate and which faction of the party has pulled. But for instance, Stephen, in my Bloomberg column,
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those verbatims where black men are complaining about how the party has, how the Democratic Party
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has been treating them came from the working class project, which is an initiative from a Democratic
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super PAC, American Bridge 21st Century. It's a, so it's a Democratic effort run by Democratic operatives.
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They're making all of the information public. They're not hiding it. They're not sugarcoating it.
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They're the ones that really turned me on to some of what we're seeing with both working class
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Hispanics, which I wrote about the previous week for Bloomberg, and working class black men
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and black men generally. So this information is coming from Democrats, not from Republicans,
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not that Republicans aren't focused on it. I think, you know, the other thing is that there's,
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and this always happens after you lose an election, whatever the party is, right? I mean,
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there's one faction that believes we just need to double down on what failed. We just didn't do it
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right. We didn't do it enough. And there's another faction that's like, no, we lost because people
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didn't like what we were offering. And so there are different groups of centrist Democrats that are
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pushing the party to do very simple things. I was at a conference of centrist Democrats in Washington a
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few weeks ago. And one of the operatives was showing polling data. And he's like, we need to nominate
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people that know how to talk to ordinary people. And Congressman Tom Swasey from Long Island in New
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York, he was saying, listen, part of the problem is, is that when I go around my district and I ask
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people what matters to them, they list these five things. And he listed five things. And then when I say,
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I ask them, well, what do you think the Democratic Party is focused on? They list another five things,
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meaning we're not focused on the things, we're not talking to voters about the things that matter to
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them. And so in some ways, these are simple solutions. But, you know, moving a political
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party to accept that they made mistakes can take time. Some, you know, sometimes it doesn't take
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time, right? I mean, the Republican Party had what was supposed to be a permanent structural majority in
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2004. And two years later, there was a Democratic wave. And two years after that, there was Barack
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Obama. So sometimes these things move fast. Sometimes they move very slow. And we'll, you know,
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be interesting to see what happens here. But you you would agree that this the the the issues and focus
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on working class black men and Hispanics is going to be a major battle space for both parties in the
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future, correct? 100 percent. David Drucker, where do people go to get all your writing over the
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dispatch and and also your social media so people can start to follow you? Appreciate that. I'm on
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exit at David M. Drucker, which is my byline. And you can go to the dispatch dot com, the dispatch dot
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com and my Bloomberg columns. I'm still getting used to the terminal and how all of that stuff works.
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But some of Bloomberg has a syndication process. So some of them have been showing up in local
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newspapers. Now, when you're on the terminal, that is why they charge Michael Bloomberg charges
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70,000 bucks, I think, a year for the terminal. The term Bloomberg Terminal is one of the most powerful
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information distribution systems in the world. It's reason Michael, Michael Bloomberg is with what,
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80 billion dollars. Right. No, it's a few. David, thank you so. Thank you so much for joining us
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and love you. Love your hits on TV. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
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