Episode 4579： Banging The Drums Of War; Will There Be Troops On The Ground
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Donald Trump has ordered U.S. military forces to carry out strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities in response to an attack carried out by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) on the Fordo nuclear plant in Iran. Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, responded to the attack with a stern warning to the United States, saying: "If you target Americans, the military force you will see will make last night's attack on Iran look like child's play."
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Common wisdom about this president, about the political movement that he leads,
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is that he is supposedly isolationist, that he is supposedly anti-war. That has never been
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exactly right. That's always been kind of a lazy common wisdom. In less than six months back in
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office, he has threatened military action against Panama, against Canada, against Denmark in order
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to seize Greenland. He has bombed Yemen over and over and over again, and now he appears to have
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entered the United States military into a war in Iran, something that neoconservatives have thrilled
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to for, I guess, two generations now. A lot of commentary around the Trump phenomenon and Trump's
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politics would suggest that he has risen in opposition to the neoconservatives who have
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advocated for this type of war since essentially the Iranian revolution in 1979. But since 1979,
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the U.S. military has not engaged directly with Iran. But Donald Trump has done so tonight. Donald
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Trump has ordered U.S. military bombing raids on Iran. We are now in war with Iran.
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I actually got emotional over this attack because we finally have some sign of retribution for them
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killing us for so many years, and we just kept taking it on the chin. No doubt that because of the
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president's decisive action, we have severely damaged Iran's critical nuclear infrastructure. I think we have
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to be prepared for Iran to retaliate. And I joined the president in his warning to the supreme leader of
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Iran that if he targets Americans, the military force you will see will make last night look like
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child's play. There's no question Iran was working towards having a nuclear weapon that is without
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question. Everyone knows that that looks at the data on this. The question is, will they be allowed to be
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able to actually finish their work to be able to do that? President Trump said, no, you cannot do that
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for the security of the entire world and of American citizens living in that region.
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I don't know how anybody could have been surprised at this. I think President Trump certainly telegraphed
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it. He said he's going to make his decision a couple of weeks. I certainly understand why President
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Trump would not share that information with the Democrats in Congress. And again, the operational
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security is just so crucial to protect our servicemen and women. I didn't need notice. I've been saying for
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over a week, it'll be the president's decision. I will support that decision. You can see this is the
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before satellite image of the Fordo nuclear plant. And then after you can see these craters, three
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craters here and here. Presumably those are the impacts of the U.S. bunker busting bombs. Now the key
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is to assess how much damage was actually done underground. That's ongoing. And as that happens,
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an incredible amount of awareness now on the possibility of the Iranian counterattack.
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Yeah, we'll just think that we're in such a better place as a result of the attack than what we were
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before. And I think when you look at this, is this going to end at a negotiating table or is this
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going to end on a battlefield? And Iran, they've got to go through a couple of things. One, I think
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the status of the damage and the nuclear enterprise is a factor in their decision making, in my view.
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Also, they're on their own time schedule. And we're kind of getting in a crouch and getting ready for
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an attack. But they may take their time. This is their time schedule.
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The meeting has now begun between Vladimir Putin and Abbas Aragchi. Cameras were allowed in at the
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start of the talks. We saw and heard the pair exchange comments between translators. Vladimir Putin
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called the aggression against Iran groundless. He said that their meeting will give them the chance to
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find ways out of the current situation. And he added, most importantly, perhaps, that Russia was
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ready to help the Iranian people. But the question everyone wants to know the answer to is what kind
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of help will that constitute from Russia? If Tehran is seeking military help from Moscow, I think
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Aragchi is going to be leaving here empty handed, leaving here disappointed. And I say that for a number
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of reasons. Firstly, assuming things say as they are, by the way, firstly, although the countries
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have this strategic partnership deal that they signed in January that sought to deepen their
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military cooperation, there's no mutual defence clause contained within it. So, there's no legal
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obligation for Moscow to step in and provide military aid to Tehran. And the second reason is that all of
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Russia's attention and resources right now are focused on Ukraine. And so, I think they're reluctant to
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be dragged into another conflict. And I think they might be hard pressed to as well. And the third
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reason is that this comes at a time when Moscow is trying to get closer to Washington and improve
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relations there. If they back Iran militarily now, then I think, of course, that will derail that kind
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of warming relationship there. So, I don't think we're going to see at this stage any material support
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from Moscow for Tehran. At the same time, though, Moscow is very wary of things progressing towards
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regime change in Iran. They lost an important strategic ally in Syria when the Bashar al-Assad
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regime fell there in December. And they don't want the same thing happening right now. So, for now,
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I think Moscow is going to be pursuing and working very hard to achieve a diplomatic resolution.
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They're uniquely placed to do that. They've got these strong ties with Iran. They've got warm
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relations historically with Israel. And there's this budding personal relationship
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between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. So, I think the Kremlin is going to be trying to talk
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everyone down. And at this meeting today with the Iranian foreign minister, I think Putin clearly
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knows that Iran has to respond. But I think he's going to be trying to persuade them to limit that
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response to a symbolic one, hoping that then they can draw a line underneath this. And if he can do
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that, then he will be preserving Russia's interests in the region, but also potentially gaining some
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leverage with Donald Trump that he could then in turn use when it comes to Ukraine and U.S. military
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support for Kyiv. It's a big if. And there's a lot of things playing into it. But Russia has a lot of
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stake in how this progresses. And there's a lot that remains unpredictable.
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Talk to me, Rick Stengel, about where Prime Minister Netanyahu factors into this debate.
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Well, he's the big winner in all of this. And he seems to be conducting American foreign policy,
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masterminding American intelligence. He had tried the last three presidents, including the first
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Trump administration to persuade those American presidents that Iran was imminently about to
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have a nuclear weapon and the U.S. needed to help Israel obliterate it. He finally persuaded Donald
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Trump in his second term. He's a very persuasive fellow. He sees this ideologically. You know, one of
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the problems of having an American president who sees foreign policy in terms of the personality of
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foreign leaders is it makes him more receptive to the argument of those foreign leaders. Remember,
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early in his first term, he said he trusted Vladimir Putin's description of our intelligence more than
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our own intelligence services. So, you know, Bibi is really guiding a lot of what's happening here.
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And we should be talking about what he sees as the next step, because that's going to help
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focus what the American electorate is going to see. Meanwhile, President Trump is floating the idea
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of a regime change in Iran. In a Truth Social post yesterday, the president wrote, quote,
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if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?
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This is the first time Trump's raised the possibility of changing the leadership in Iran
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since Israel launched that war 11 days ago. The president's comments also break from the
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stance of the rest of his administration that they've been taking, as they've been saying the
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intention of Saturday's strike was not to push for regime change, but to prevent Iran from obtaining
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nuclear weapons. Sometimes the military has to be used if it's used by a smart commander chief,
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if it's used wisely, if it's used for a specific purpose. It gives us peace. So I want the
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so-called, I don't know what to call them. People are running around, warmonger, the sloganeers.
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This should be an education for you too. This should be an education for you too.
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America, don't you feel relief? Of course you feel relief, because these Islamo-Nazis were
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building nuclear weapons to attack us too, with intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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Guess what? You can go to bed peacefully tonight. No, that's not going to happen.
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That's not going to happen. Not because of Obama, not because of Biden, not because of the Democrats,
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not because of some Republicans, because of Donald Trump.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The
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people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Monday, 23 June, in the year of our Lord, 2025, in a sweltering imperial capital.
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Don't you feel, didn't you go to bed Saturday night feeling better?
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Mark Levin, the propaganda department over there, the hectoring of Fox, because now the
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PSYAPs move into a, they're moving to a different location. We're going to get into that in just a
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moment. Didn't you go, didn't you feel better? Don't you feel better?
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The engine room also, in going through the cold open, I want to thank my team. Just amazing cold
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open. Did you get enough neocons there? Because we can load it up a lot more, folks.
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Just from proportionality, every dollar we spend, focus on this. Every second we spend focus on this,
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we're not focused on the main thing. Although the Moolahs are an ally, as I said, for all five years of
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the show, they provide the oil for them. Dave Walsh is going to join us for that. Sam Faddis is going
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to join us for Intel. His thoughts, Jack Posobiec's here. We're going to take this hour. In the second
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hour, we're going to get off the Iran war because part of this PSYOP is to get us not to focus on
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what's important for this country, for America first. And we're going to do that. And we're going
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to do that every day. We're going to spend time on the war, as we have to, right? And we should.
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But we're not going to get totally consumed by this. Because to get totally consumed by this
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is to fall into their trap, to not focus on what's important in this country. The engine room informs
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me, though, for proportionality, Mark Levin and all, General Keane, love General Keane, great guy,
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Jack Keane. Although General Keane is kind of morphing into the general in Dr. Strangelove
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a little bit. This is either going to be ended now or ended on a battlefield. They're just,
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they're set to go. What's happening now is that I think we lost a big part of initiative yesterday
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morning. And I was very disappointed. And I love Pete Hexer. This audience does. As you know,
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we went to expand next to get Pete as DOD and raising Keane a good man and has President Trump's
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confidence. But number one, we should have gone to the initiative. I need to, we needed to see some
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grainy photographs like Schwarzkopf put up. And they were out there because a couple hours later,
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hour later, MSNBC, CNN were putting up and driving the initiative of exactly what happened. I understand
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DOD that you don't have the battle damage assessment. That's going to take three or four weeks,
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as you said. But there's enough there to kind of take and start to drive the narrative.
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We lost that opportunity. I've been all weekend saying somebody at the Pentagon's got to stand up
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in front of a podium that says Pentagon in front of it and actually give us a first cut.
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Photographs are all over. We need, we need an initial preliminary subject to change draft
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assessment of exactly what was accomplished. President Trump is so proud of this as he should.
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The precision, logistics, bravery, valor, boldness of the attack itself, unquestioned, right? But
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exactly what was accomplished. Number two, because you see now, it's all about, hey, we don't know
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where the material is. You see the New York Times, the Financial Times of London, the drumbeat on Fox.
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What is that? What's that going to lead us to, folks? Hey, do we need the 75th Ranger Battalion
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to go in and find it? Oh, it's coming. It's coming. And of course, you saw the regime change
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narrative over the weekend, right? They're going to drive that. You saw the Chavarant son,
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I don't know, a guy that's been partying in New York for 40 years, 50 years. They're now at the
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podium saying they're calling all, remember Chalabi? This is Chalabi 2.0. Remember Chalabi? We've got
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Chalabi 2.0. And all that stuff's fine as long as we're not part of it. We've got to come out of
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the battle damage assessment. If we've got enough of it done, hey, then it's to the Israelis. Because
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I think the tell here, and I think very upsetting, is why did the United States have to take on the
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other two? The other two facilities were never mentioned in the road. It was always Fordo,
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can't get to Fordo, need bunker busting bombs to get to Fordo. Why is the U.S. Navy in the North
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Arabian Sea firing 30 tomahawks at one of the facilities? Why was that not taken out by the
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air supremacy of the Israeli Air Force? Was the entire thing for the nukes just cosplaying?
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Is this because the ultimate goal is regime change? And if that's fine, Israelis have at it. Like we
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said, finish what you started. If you want regime change, go for it, baby. Just no participation by
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As the engineering room informs me, it's a million deaths by fentanyl. We have a million deaths by
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fentanyl, 50,000 a year. Oh, and we got 10,000. By the way, every American serviceman, including the
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Marines in Beirut, who should have been, the vengeance on them should have come years ago,
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decades ago, and the money, I think, still held up in court. Right? I got it. And the Iranians are bad
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guys. Today, right now, the Israelis bombing Tehran. I think they're having Bastille Day.
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They're bombing the prison. They're bombing the Revolutionary Guard headquarters. Good on you.
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They're talking about regime change. They got the Shah's son. Like I said, he had a press conference.
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He's Chalabi, too. They're getting all that together. In New York City, a proxy for this is what's
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happening in New York City right now with that mayor's race. You watch. You're going to have a radical
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Islamic mayor, a socialist to top everything off, but that's the least of the issues.
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That's going to happen, folks, or it's going to come damn close. And of course, you got the
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rig voting there. Right? So everything in New York City, all you progressives in New York City,
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hey, get ready to embrace the future, folks. The progressives have brought this on us.
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Now you get the Red-Green Alliance. But in the fog of war, this is what got Faddis Walsh and
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Walsh and oil and what's happening in oil markets, particularly what's happening to the threat
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to shut down the Straits or Hormuz, which, by the way, in any Cartesian kind of logic is
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the craziest things the Iranians can do. But hey, they're taking income. And these guys are
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not exactly rational anyway. They're looking for the 13th. They're following Mahdi.
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They're looking for Mahdi. So this is the rationality. But no, Mark Levin, I don't think
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people are sleeping better. First off, Sam Faddis, the raid itself was magnificent. It
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showed you the coordination, the high technology. Nobody on earth, I'm sure the Russians and
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the Chinese Communist Party got their number two pencils out and were writing down a lot
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of, oh my God, these brothers can move and they can move fast and they can move hard and
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they can bring the heat. But I was very upset yesterday morning when we at least didn't
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have, you know, give me a Norman Schwarzkopf, give me at least a grainy gun cannon photo of
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exactly what the freaking, you know, what happened. They said at the, you know, Raisin Cain, who's
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fantastic and has the president's complete trust, because Raisin Cain was the guy that actually
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took ISIS down, I don't know, in 90 days when they said it would take 10 years. He started
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off, Sam, as Jack has pointed out, by saying, hey, I've got all the assets that are involved,
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including Space Command, NRO. As you know, we can pick out a license plate on an Audi in
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downtown Tehran. Why do I have no grainy photographs and at least take the initiative that we're taking
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the initiative? This happened. Understanding a bomb damage assessment is 30 days away. Sam Faddis.
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Well, first of all, Steve, I agree with you. Obviously, all credit to the men and women who
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pulled this off. That's never been our issue, right? The competence of our people.
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Why didn't they give us an assessment? Honestly, I don't think they have any idea what we just blew
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up at Fordow. Let's keep in mind, three weeks ago, none of this was going on and we weren't talking
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about doing it until the Israelis showed up and handed us a bunch of intel that we apparently
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did not have. And so now they're driving the train and they're the ones that tell us Fordow has to be
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blown up and this is what's there. Hang on, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. Don't go too
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fast. Okay. Israelis, because this is the big debate, right? The Israelis showed up with intelligence we
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didn't have, correct? Yeah, I don't. I mean, I get it that now people are attempting to turn this into
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a debate. I don't see how it can be a debate. We know what the written IC assessment was as of the
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end of March. Tulsi Gabbard delivered to Congress, but what she read, word for word, was a prepared
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formal assessment by the entire intelligence community. Said the Supreme Leader has not changed
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the decision that was made in 2003 to abandon a nuclear weapons program. So were we concerned
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about it? We were concerned about it. Were we allegedly watching it? Yeah. Was there any urgency?
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No, because our assessment of our entire intelligence community was there is as of this point, no
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Iranian effort to create a nuclear weapon, to operationalize it. Okay. So that's where we were.
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Three weeks ago, nobody was talking about bunker buster bombs, attacking Iran, regime change. And
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then the Israelis showed up with intelligence that at this point still remains largely unknown
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and said, we're on the cusp. They're about to actually have more than one. I think the number
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has varied from nine to 12 operational nuclear weapons. And sometimes they've made it sound like
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within days, as you've pointed out before, sometimes it sounds a lot longer, but based
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on this intelligence that we did not have, apparently still don't have, apparently, according
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to Secretary Rubio, they still haven't shown us. We have now gone to the point where we
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are bombing sites. We're bombing Fordow. Now, the fact that Fordow had a whole bunch of centrifuges
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in it has been involved in the nuclear weapons program. I just want to make sure, because people
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are going to pick this, people are going to try to pick this apart, right? We're a big defender
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of Israel. People, oh, abandon's flipped. Ain't flipped, folks. But let me be brutally frank.
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The United States of America and American citizens make decisions for the United States of America,
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a full stop, and we will not back off that one inch. If you don't like it, that's your
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problem, okay? And we're going to get to the bottom of this. We're going to get to the bottom
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of this. We are going to get to the bottom of this, and we're going to get all the facts.
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Hang on. But one thing in the interim from Tulsi, didn't the International Atomic Energy
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thing did come out, correct, and make an assessment that they were working on physical
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material to make 10 to 15 bombs. Was that correct? Yeah, and the IAEA has been kind of sounding
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that alarm for some time. I mean, look, I think the Israelis are closer to the mark than we are,
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but it doesn't, to me, the fundamental point here is we're steering now, making national
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security decisions at the highest level that affect the United States, affect American citizens.
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And we are doing it based on intelligence passed to us by a foreign power. And it is,
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it appears to me, based on what Rubio said the other day, that we have not even been shown
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this intelligence. Now, as you say, this is the United States of America. The Israelis are allies.
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But our decisions on behalf of our citizens, we have to make for ourselves, and we have to make
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based on our own intelligence. So the Israelis are telling us we got to bomb Fordow. I question
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everything about that. If they're really, if the Iranians are really as close to having a nuclear
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weapon as the Israelis suggest, then the enrichment activity that you would do at Fordow is over.
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I mean, taking it out will prevent them from enriching more uranium. But they long since
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have done the work they needed to do at Fordow, if they're really within days. And the program now
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would be being conducted in much smaller locations. And the real issue would not be that they're bunk,
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they're in bunkers hundreds of feet under the ground. The real issue would be,
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it could be done almost anywhere in a commercial warehouse. Finding them is the issue.
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Well, okay, hang over a second, because this is the, I'm going to get back to the bomb damage
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assessment. And to me, the tell, the tell on Saturday night is why are we sending the tomahawks
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to the third facility? I thought it was all about Fordow. Right. Now we got to send bunker
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buses to the second facility. But the third facility, which is kind of above ground,
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I thought the Israelis had air supremacy. I thought they had air superiority. I thought they
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were doing combat sortie after combat sortie. And since this is their, their number one objective
00:25:10.180
is this, the nuclear power, the nuclear, you know, weapons program. Number two is the ballistic
00:25:15.580
missiles program. Netanyahu yesterday said point blank, we're not going to get in a war of attrition.
00:25:21.740
When it, when those are over, it's over. I'm just quoting him. Right. But Jack Posobiec,
00:25:26.780
we're getting, Sam Hangover said, Jack Posobiec, we're constantly getting the upsell.
00:25:30.060
You get the sense of the false sense of urgency. And maybe it's not false, but I'd like to see
00:25:35.280
that information at least give us as much D class as you can. Because Rubio, I think I'm not sure
00:25:41.520
they haven't seen some of it, but certainly haven't seen all of it to make an independent assessment.
00:25:46.160
But we're getting the sense of urgency and we're getting an upsell. The upsell is first regime change.
00:25:51.040
Right. The second upsell today, folks, is to Sam's point. Well, hang on. Maybe they took that. Maybe
00:25:58.100
we got to find the, we got to find the, since there was no, uh, um, you know, nuclear fallout
00:26:04.120
or radiation. Right. And no seismic activity. Right. I'm just quoting the experts. Now we,
00:26:10.060
now, now the financial times and the New York times both come out almost at the same time
00:26:14.400
with the same story. Oh, well now we've got to go hunt for the, for the, for the material itself.
00:26:20.440
That reads to me, not just Israeli commandos, it's get on the phone and call the 75th Ranger Battalion.
00:26:25.820
Let's get the 75th Ranger Battalion on the phone. Cause I think we got to send a couple of guys
00:26:29.740
in there to find this stuff. Am I wrong? We're getting upsold a Jack Posobiec.
00:26:34.660
Yeah, Steve. It was interesting because the Washington post wrote up our, uh, our back and
00:26:40.000
forth the other day, our diatribe about the upsell, but they left out the part about the upsell being
00:26:46.120
regime change. I noticed that was very interesting because we've always been very clear about this,
00:26:50.160
that president Trump has been focused on the nuclear program, but the upsell was to try to
00:26:57.020
suck the United States in to say, well, you know, maybe it's just going to be a special operations
00:27:01.780
rate. Maybe it's just going to be a little bit, a couple of boots on the ground. Not, not, not too
00:27:05.720
many, just a couple of units, get some, get some CAG in there. Delta force seal team six, get the
00:27:10.660
boys out of dev group, get a little black squadron go down. It'll be fine. It'll be totally fine.
00:27:14.600
That was always the upsell. Now, hold on a second, because president Trump told me obliterated
00:27:20.600
completely. That's what my president said. So if president Trump says it's obliterated completely
00:27:25.760
and the New York times is pushing for all this, and we got a lot of questions about what actually
00:27:31.260
went down here, because I'm going to take the word of my president who says obliterated completely.
00:27:37.060
So perfect strike, et cetera, et cetera, what they're trying to push for. And all these guys,
00:27:42.580
Jack Keane, the Institute for the Study of War, which has been completely wrong about
00:27:47.260
everything in Ukraine, by the way, the ISW, which Jack Keane runs. Those are the guys telling
00:27:52.620
you, oh, it's going to be one fell strike. No. Well, here we are three years later. And
00:27:56.260
by the way, nobody's paying attention. Russia is advancing in Ukraine right now. Well, no
00:28:01.660
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In the War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:30:16.020
Okay, welcome back. Birch Gold, you're going to get a little turbulence, although, and they're
00:30:20.880
threatening to shut down the Straits or Moose, which is obviously for them. Dave Walsh is going to be
00:30:25.180
here to explain the logic because it would be absolute economic suicide for them, I think. Maybe I got this
00:30:30.680
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team. Now more than ever, and I hope everybody did their homework assignment. I know there
00:30:47.560
was a ton of downloads on the end of the dollar empire. As the BRICS nations, that would be
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the global south, head to Rio for the Rio reset. Sam Fadish, your assessment, are we being
00:30:57.500
upsold here? Are we being upsold? And by the way, as I've said a million times, if the Israelis want
00:31:02.640
regime change, go for it. If they want to go in and send people in to find the material, go for it.
00:31:08.440
It's their war. They started, and they should finish what they started. And hey, look, I think
00:31:12.920
they've got the valor and the courage and IDF and the Israeli Air Force. They punch way above their
00:31:19.480
weight. I think they got these guys maybe on the ropes. I don't know. President Trump can't get a
00:31:25.940
meeting for his negotiating time because the Ayatollah ain't taking calls because the guys
00:31:31.040
that take calls end up dead. Sam Fadish, your assessment. And in the CIA, shouldn't we have
00:31:36.440
our, I thought we paid, I don't know, a trillion dollars a year for all these 17
00:31:40.460
intelligence agencies. We got everything in the world to have an independent assessment
00:31:46.500
that came from people called Americans that had a perspective of the United States of America,
00:31:52.380
sir. Look, it is a given in any situation like this that you're going to have everybody in the
00:31:58.040
world come out of the woodwork and try to use you for their intended purposes. So yeah, we got the
00:32:03.060
crown prince now who, who claims that he's going to ride back into Tehran on a white horse if we just
00:32:10.100
back him and restore the monarchy. What's the defense against that? The defense against that is that
00:32:15.680
your intelligence services do their job and you know what the heck is going on and you can't be
00:32:22.240
played. So with all respect to the Israelis who I've worked with extensively, it doesn't change the
00:32:27.980
fact that they are representing Israel's interest and our interest in there do not coincide.
00:32:35.360
And can, are we in a position of, they do not coincide all the time.
00:32:38.760
So again, you have to have your own intelligence. We are now in a position where they are driving the
00:32:46.380
train. They're telling us things and you know, maybe they're true and maybe they aren't true and
00:32:53.760
maybe there's a mix of all of the above and maybe they're just flat out wrong about some things and
00:33:00.360
they believe that you're true. This is the maze of mirrors. So we have to have our own eyes and ears
00:33:07.660
and it is manifestly obvious we don't because again, three weeks ago we didn't like what was
00:33:15.660
going on in Iran, but there was no screaming emergency and now we're standing on the brink
00:33:20.340
of tumbling out of control and this thing really becoming a major conflict. Under a thousand over
00:33:27.400
40 years and every one of those lives are precious, right? Including the Marines at the Marine barracks
00:33:33.220
that even president Reagan said the single biggest mistake he made, he admitted two mistakes
00:33:37.440
in his presidency, doing the deal on amnesty where they let it, they, they gave him amnesty first
00:33:43.000
and never sealed the border and then the Marine barracks. And as soon as he got them in there
00:33:47.720
and died, he told Capron, get the hell out of there. What are we doing? We got enough fight with
00:33:51.200
the Russians. We can't be doing this. Jack Posobiec. Um, what's, how's, how's the upsell going to play out
00:33:57.800
over the next couple of days? And, uh, what information do we have to get this audience
00:34:02.460
to make sure they understand they're being upsold, sir? Well, Steve, there's going to be a couple
00:34:07.540
elements to this. So let's, let's keep in mind that the NATO conference takes place tomorrow at
00:34:14.740
the Hague and president Trump is currently scheduled to attend. Now we have heard the leaders of South
00:34:20.220
Korea and Japan, the president, new president, and then the prime minister have both pulled out
00:34:26.400
citing, uh, unforeseen circumstances as well as Middle East instability as the reason they don't want
00:34:32.920
to go. Uh, Zelensky, of course, he's up there. He's meet with Prince, or excuse me, King Charles
00:34:37.720
right now at the UK, and he's completely backed all of the action in Iran. He's calling for, uh,
00:34:45.240
potentially for regime change as well. He wants the U S to get in there big because here's what the
00:34:48.900
big play is now. What else, what else do you have going on in Europe right now? The foreign minister
00:34:54.360
of Iran, where's he? He's in Moscow. He's sitting down at the Kremlin right now, as we speak with
00:35:00.300
Vladimir Putin and the video is coming out and they're saying, we're going to deal with this
00:35:03.120
jointly. And the U S has conducted a legal activity, et cetera, et cetera. So what they're trying to do,
00:35:07.760
Steve, is they want to put the Iran fight together. That's what the EU wants, the European leaders.
00:35:13.140
They want to put Iran and Russia in the same bucket to get Trump to say, well, wait a minute,
00:35:19.500
you got to fight Russia too, through Ukraine, couple, three bombing runs, maybe over there on
00:35:24.700
Russian troops in Eastern Ukraine. So now you've got, or excuse me on, on Russian troops. Yeah.
00:35:29.420
Russian troops in Eastern Ukraine. So now you've got the Russians, but the Russians didn't, the Russians
00:35:35.380
didn't back in the Chinese. Nobody's come through it and said, Hey, we're militarily. We're going to come
00:35:40.020
in and back off the Israelis. I don't even think the Russians call for the Israelis. What Putin said,
00:35:44.160
didn't he say? Hey, he says, I got to play it. I got to play it kind of safe here.
00:35:48.300
Two million Russian speakers in Israel. Folks take your number two pronouncement. I write this one
00:35:53.800
down. Besides the Ted Cruz should have known there's roughly 190 some million or a hundred million in
00:35:58.980
Persia. There are two million Russians, Russian speaking, a Jewish people in, um, in, uh, in,
00:36:06.040
in, uh, of the nine million in Israel. So he just can't pick a side. I'm sure some of the people
00:36:12.040
taking incoming and they're taking brutal incoming yesterday are, are Russian citizens. Um, so in
00:36:20.040
taking our eye off the ball of the larger war and yes, Fox news, we are in the third world war. We just
00:36:26.200
don't want another battlefront right now because we've got one here in the United States that we're not
00:36:30.140
focused on enough. We got another in the South China sea that they're running the tables on us. I
00:36:34.480
should duly note South Korea canceled going to NATO this morning. Did Japan did also, but South
00:36:41.480
Korea, which is totally controlled by the Chinese Congress party, that political party announced
00:36:45.560
they're not going to NATO. They got other things they got to focus on. Right. And Japan announced
00:36:49.840
they weren't going either. I I'd actually be surprised if the president actually attended.
00:36:54.540
I'm not so sure given the threats, given the hot talk coming out of Tehran, the big talk,
00:36:59.880
Jack, that I would send the president over to NATO right now. If you need to talk to first of those
00:37:05.160
guys, all boring. He was in Calgary, got bored, came back. Right. Um, so how do we prevent the
00:37:12.400
upsell from getting, drawing us in more? The, the, the issue before us is we did what president Trump
00:37:18.580
said he would do is take down the nuclear program. He says it's obliterated the Pentagon. I'm sure it's
00:37:23.340
going to come out today or tomorrow and reinforce that this thing is knocked down because our
00:37:27.580
military in their valor and their boldness knocked it down. It's our mission's finished. Is it not
00:37:34.040
Jack? I mean, the, the, the, the regime change is if the, if the, if the peacock thrown guy that's
00:37:40.000
been hanging out in cocktail parties in New York city and the Hamptons for 50 years, hasn't lifted a
00:37:45.260
finger to help free his people. If that brother's ready to roll, then Hey, he's Chalibay 2.0. Do it.
00:37:51.800
Hey, that sounds great. That sounds like an idea. If the MEK want to team up with him and all these
00:37:57.360
other revolutionary groups or outside groups go with them, but we should have nothing to do with
00:38:02.820
that. Am I incorrect? Jack Posobiec. Well, Steve, not only that one, another watch word to look for
00:38:09.000
is moderates. You're going to hear this. This is going to be rolled out very soon. They're going to
00:38:13.660
say, well, there's, there's moderate elements that perhaps we can try to reach out to. And if we can get
00:38:19.020
to the moderate elements, perhaps they'll depose the IRGC, they'll depose the leader and the
00:38:25.720
moderates will rise up. And Steve, this was the same exact failed logic that led to what the third
00:38:33.300
biggest scandal of the Reagan administration, Iran Contra. Remember this Robert McFarlane. Oh,
00:38:40.120
we're going to go to the moderates and the moderate. They're going to work with us. We're going to come
00:38:44.200
together. Everybody seems to have forgotten this. We tried this. We have tried all these things.
00:38:49.400
We tried this again and again. And they tried to impeach President Reagan. Remember they went
00:38:55.220
all that. I think they indicted Cap Weinberg. Which leads to impeachment. Sam Fad, poor Cap became a
00:39:02.200
felon. I think they had to, they had to pardon him later. I've totally, that one slipped, the pardon him.
00:39:07.460
Hey, Sam Faddis, the hunt for the material. This is, this is a big deal, right? Because your point,
00:39:13.820
it could be anywhere. Who does the CIA normally in the military turn to? I threw at 75th Ranger
00:39:19.760
Battalion, but who would they go to? Because when they talk about, we got to find the material.
00:39:26.460
Am I missing it? They're talking about boots on the ground, sir.
00:39:31.200
Well, if that's what they're talking about, we're totally screwed, Steve. I mean,
00:39:35.700
how should it work? It should work that you should have these guys called assets.
00:39:39.820
Denver, put Denver, put up, put up the Financial Times and New York Times. The two biggest stories
00:39:43.660
in those papers today, which are the two dominant
00:39:45.760
news sources in the world, is your point at the very beginning. They think that they think
00:39:51.660
the Iranians pulled the stuff out beforehand because this thing was kind of telegraphed by
00:39:56.540
the Israelis for a couple of weeks and pulled it out or pulled it out over time, thinking it was a
00:40:00.600
target. And so let's assume for purposes of discussion, the Times and the Financial Times are right.
00:40:05.840
What happens to go find it? Yeah, well, I think we we know that there were trucks running in and out of
00:40:12.640
Fordow over the course of days. There's a question there why we didn't just bomb those of the Israelis
00:40:18.080
didn't bomb those. So we know a whole bunch of stuff left for Fordow. That's fact. How should
00:40:23.760
you hunt it? You should hunt it with clandestine assets, which is what the CIA is supposed to have
00:40:28.640
inside Iran, which is what we did in Iraq when the bombing campaign started and they all displaced to
00:40:34.460
unmarked locations. We followed them with teams on the ground and gave us GPS cords and put JDAMs
00:40:39.680
through the roof. We apparently don't have any human sources in Iran that are worth anything.
00:40:44.620
So, yeah, now are you talking about putting actual, you know, whether it's the rain, whether it's the
00:40:51.440
Ranger regiment or whether it's other tier one units, you're talking about putting uniformed American
00:40:58.540
personnel on the ground. I mean, come on, we know. I've worked with those guys are great,
00:41:03.760
but you know how that ends, that you do not stay undetected. It ends badly.
00:41:08.900
Jack, Sam Fattis said the magic word tier one. What do you? Oh, my God. What do we get? Folks,
00:41:14.620
this is the way you get sucked in. Give me what's tier one.
00:41:17.300
WMDs and WMD material doctrine is that that's going to be your tier one elements. My bias is
00:41:26.320
always Navy. So, you know, but it's, you know, it's always kind of a jump ball there. But, you
00:41:30.980
know, looking at a situation like that with the Navy element, you could have DevGuru go in. But
00:41:35.360
since you're talking about WMD material and potentially bomb making material, because again,
00:41:40.660
the intelligence, I haven't seen it. I haven't, you know, touched any of this, but there's been a lot
00:41:45.660
of questions about triggers. There's been a lot of questions about delivery systems. So you're
00:41:49.640
going to need a tier one element. So either DevGuru or Delta Force, but you're going to need
00:41:55.660
an EOD. You're going to need the EOD element attached to that so that they can deal with
00:42:02.160
whatever situation they find on the ground there. If they are actually going in and need to render
00:42:07.380
something safe or confiscate or et cetera, et cetera, whatever you're talking about. Because again,
00:42:11.820
if this is fizzle material, you're talking tier one operators, minimum, minimum, if you're going
00:42:17.420
to be sending U.S. boots on the ground. And yes, to Sam's point, of course, you're going to need to
00:42:21.660
locate this first through intelligence. And that also includes human intelligence. Look, you know,
00:42:28.220
you've got to pay off guys on the ground. You've got to need people there. Presumably,
00:42:31.460
Mossad has had all of these elements that were able to find all these sites and all these leaders.
00:42:36.060
DevGuru, you're talking about SEAL Team, SEAL Team, you were saying SEAL Team 6 with EOD.
00:42:40.260
SEAL Team 6 with EOD, EOD, the frogman, from DOD, the bomb squad that was so brave in Iraq. So
00:42:49.820
you've got EOD elements. Everybody knows Navy EOD is the best EOD. Yeah. Yeah. Let's not get in
00:42:56.140
that Army-Navy fight. Hang on. You two guys, hang on. It's true. I've got Dave Walsh. We're going to
00:43:01.700
talk a little oil. We got our two Intel guys, Jack Basovic and Sam. I really appreciate Sam taking the
00:43:08.440
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not going to get sucked in and focused on all this. Jack, give me a minute on what you
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need to see from Pete and the guys, the guerrilla from CENCOM and Raising Cain today. What types
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of elements would you like to see to make sure we get a great picture here as we say, we stand
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relieved, right? The Israelis relieved the watch. We want to have a complete turnover. What do
00:46:55.220
Well, Steve, when it comes down to this, you know, as a prior intelligence officer and
00:47:00.780
someone who's looked at these types of situations before, when you're conducting battle damage
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assessment, some of the things you're going to look at, they're not just going to be these
00:47:08.800
commercial imagery photos that we're seeing from Maxar and others. The United States intelligence
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community, of course. So when has every eye in the sky on a strike like this, you would
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have every single intelligence satellite, spy satellite focused directly on every facility
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that was being hit, particularly Fordo, because of its extreme distance, extreme depth beneath
00:47:30.940
the surface of that mountain. So we've got all sorts of capabilities up there to see into
00:47:36.920
this from an intelligence perspective. And if the president wanted to, he could declassify
00:47:41.360
this or other elements could be declassified as well. So we're not just looking at basic
00:47:46.400
satellite imagery of, say, those sites and those tunnels. By the way, we've got, we've
00:47:50.340
got, if you want to look inside a tunnel, we've got satellites that can shoot on an angle and
00:47:53.680
they can get right into that tunnel. So those trucks looking up to this, you would have had
00:47:58.380
satellites that were tracking every single truck, what was being done, what was being put
00:48:03.120
onto them. Plus you've got synthetic aperture radar. You've got things that can look deep inside
00:48:09.220
these mountains. We've got all sorts of ability to look into this, to measure what's going
00:48:13.860
on. We've got infrared, we've got magnetic anomalies and all the rest to really track
00:48:18.480
this down. The Israelis got drones all over the place. Yeah, they got drones all over the
00:48:23.440
place. They've been doing drone war and winning in Tehran. Hang on for a second. Dave Walsh,
00:48:29.200
make me smart. The president sends out a tweet today going wild. Then he says, drill, baby,
00:48:35.160
drill. What is the president's issue today with oil, the Straits of Hormuz in the Persians,
00:48:44.300
Well, he's worried about the Hormuz Straits being blocked for a while. Prices, by the
00:48:49.180
way, seem to be down 0.6% so far today, 72 bucks ballpark. But with that said, he's doing
00:48:56.660
the jawboning thing. The president tries to do, try to get ExxonMobil, Chevron, Occidental
00:49:01.040
Marathon, Chesapeake to do something they have never done before. For 55 years in this
00:49:06.480
country, never done before. And that is, guess what? Let's not match OPEC and world oil prices.
00:49:12.100
That's not going to happen. They're going to match world oil prices. In part, one reason
00:49:15.880
we have never taken on OPEC. We have decided the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is doing it.
00:49:19.600
Hold it. Hang on. Slow down. Hold it. Slow down. Slow down.
00:49:22.220
What did you just say? I want the audience to understand it because I don't. Walk me through
00:49:28.140
that again. No, he's attempting to jawbone through social media the major oil producers
00:49:34.880
in this country to please don't go along with world oil prices. Okay, Deutsche Bank is forecasting
00:49:41.220
you're going to go from a range of $85 to $120 possibly for the time period that the Straits
00:49:47.580
of Hormuz may be blocked. We buy precious little oil that comes from that source. Only like 7%
00:49:54.320
of our imports, which are almost nil to begin with, come from there. What he's concerned
00:49:59.300
with is global pricing going to $85, $120, from which we benefit massively, by the way,
00:50:05.380
is our major export commodity. But consumers here will be punished if that happens because
00:50:11.120
these companies will raise prices to match what happens globally and the demand they get
00:50:16.300
globally to displace the 20 million barrels a day that comes from the sections of the Middle
00:50:21.320
East that are furnished through the Hormuz Straits. So he's jawboning our domestic industry
00:50:27.320
to try to hold prices in line. Don't go along with the bad guys. That's not going to work.
00:50:32.860
They're going to, as they always have, they'll track prices with OPEC and the rest of the world
00:50:37.400
to wherever the global markets go. And right now, the assessment of Deutsche Bank, for example,
00:50:42.660
is we might be headed to $85 low to $120 high based on this Hormuz Straits impact for as long
00:50:50.980
as it may last. But it is, to Rubio's point, absolute suicide.
00:50:55.360
But hang on, hang on. 20, 80% of the cash flow comes from what they sell the Chinese. And we see
00:51:02.720
Malaysia and all this stuff. Those are all fronts for the Persians selling it to the Chinese.
00:51:07.140
The Chinese, Persians sell them a million and a half to two and a half, maybe three million
00:51:10.620
barrels a day. Why would you, being a sailor that's happened to sail a combatant into the
00:51:17.920
Straits of Hormuz, why would the Iranians want to close it? If you close it, aren't they cutting,
00:51:22.520
aren't they slitting their own throat? This is the logic I don't get. What's the strategic logic
00:51:27.640
here for why they would even do it? Yeah, it does appear on the surface to be suicidal
00:51:32.660
as a move for them, because you're talking about the two million barrels a day going to China,
00:51:37.160
all flow that way from them, $100 million a day of revenue for them. They're desperate,
00:51:43.460
they're isolated, they're cut off, they're basically looking for a sympathy play through
00:51:50.220
this process of attempting to congeal China support, Korea support, especially...
00:51:57.220
And they would cut off Europe? Europe would be done. If you cut off Straits of Hormuz,
00:52:01.960
Europe gets no oil, right? Large supply to Europe, way more than here. Yes, substantial,
00:52:08.100
substantial. But they want to try to get you on Qatar and the kingdom with them also,
00:52:12.880
because they're badly hurt by this. Got it. Kingdom, UAE, Qatar. Okay, I got it. But I'm
00:52:17.800
going to spend, I'm going to need some more time with you. Poso, you got to go. Sam Fettis,
00:52:21.760
I'm going to ask you to stick. Poso, social media, the show, you're up here at two o'clock,
00:52:28.180
your social media is on fire, taking incoming sometimes, but giving as good as you get.
00:52:33.840
Where do you go, Poso, for you? Well, people are more than happy to step right up to come get me
00:52:39.460
at social media. If you want to follow me, just go watch NBC, Washington Post, Jon Stewart,
00:52:45.080
The Daily Show. They're all coming after Poso. And I'm more than happy to take it on,
00:52:50.240
because as a Philly guy, that's what we do. So yeah, we're going to be up. We've got,
00:52:54.120
we've got the great Matt Boyle from Breitbart on. We're going to be talking all things political,
00:52:58.240
because there's a domestic agenda here as well. Huge. Deportations, the big, beautiful bill,
00:53:04.880
all the rest of it. You know, we got some borders that we got to worry about here at home too,
00:53:08.440
by the way. Mass deportations, the leading front. Poso, where do people go for your social media?
00:53:14.160
Where do they go? At Jack Posobiec, TruthCatter, Social, or Telegram.
00:53:17.560
Also, this race in New York City, you're about to have a radical jihadist Muslim as your mayor,
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