Bannon's War Room - Episode 4584： Was Iran's Nuclear Program Was A Misdirection Play

00:00:00.000 Major breaking news into CNN. Three sources tell CNN that according to an early U.S. intelligence

00:00:05.400 assessment, the U.S. military strikes on three of Iran's nuclear facilities last weekend

00:00:10.000 did not destroy the core components of the country's nuclear program and likely only

00:00:15.760 set it back a few months. That's right. So this is an assessment that actually is out from the

00:00:20.660 Defense Intelligence Agency. That is the Pentagon's intelligence arm. And it was based on a battle

00:00:26.180 damage assessment conducted by U.S. CENTCOM after the strikes, according to one of the sources.

00:00:32.160 To that question that has been asked about how much damage has been done, this is a real question.

00:00:38.340 It's also a political question that has been to something that Donald Trump has been sort of

00:00:44.840 dealing with here recently. What are you learning, Natasha? Yeah, look, Brianna, this is the first

00:00:50.300 assessment that we are getting that the U.S. intelligence community has found about the

00:00:55.380 battle damage that resulted from those U.S. military strikes on these three Iranian nuclear

00:00:59.760 facilities over the weekend. And as you said, it was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency,

00:01:04.900 which is the Pentagon's intelligence arm. And it is worth noting that it is a very early assessment.

00:01:10.020 The strikes were only a matter of days ago, and the intelligence community is still

00:01:13.160 gathering intelligence. They are still working to come up with a full comprehensive picture of what

00:01:18.540 exactly happened here. But based on a battle damage assessment that was carried out by U.S.

00:01:23.120 Central Command, essentially looking at the images and looking at what was actually damaged,

00:01:27.500 the Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that the core components of Iran's nuclear program

00:01:33.140 are largely intact and that Iran's nuclear program has essentially only been set back by months.

00:01:39.200 Now, we presented this information to the White House for comment, and White House Press Secretary

00:01:44.340 Carolyn Levitt, she did acknowledge the existence of this assessment, but she said in a statement

00:01:49.080 that the administration disagrees with it. She said, quote,

00:01:52.460 this alleged assessment is flat out wrong and was classified as top secret, but was still leaked

00:01:57.720 to CNN by an anonymous low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged

00:02:02.340 assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump and discredit the brave fighter pilots who

00:02:07.700 conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran's nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens 0.97

00:02:12.720 when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets, total obliteration. Now,

00:02:18.880 it is worth noting here that there has been dissent, I should say, within the intelligence community,

00:02:24.280 within the defense community, about just how much of an impact these massive bunker buster bombs would

00:02:30.040 actually have on Iran's nuclear facilities. It was far from certain, given that these bombs had never

00:02:34.480 been tested in an actual combat scenario, whether they would actually penetrate those very,

00:02:39.240 very deep underground tunnels that lie underneath these nuclear facilities. And what we are told

00:02:45.900 is that, as of now, this Defense Intelligence Agency assessment, it does conclude at this point,

00:02:51.380 again, it is still very early, that those underground facilities, including the centrifuges,

00:02:56.080 including the highly enriched uranium that everyone has been talking so much about, those are largely

00:03:00.720 intact. Now, of course, this does stand at odds with what President Donald Trump and Secretary of

00:03:05.800 Defense Pete Hegseth has been saying in recent days about the impact of these U.S. military strikes.

00:03:11.460 Of course, President Trump said it was totally obliterated. And Secretary Hegseth did as well. And he

00:03:16.140 actually also provided CNN with a statement. And he said that, quote, based on everything we have seen,

00:03:21.980 and I've seen it all, our bombing campaign obliterated Iran's ability to create nuclear weapons. 0.97

00:03:26.960 Our massive bombs hit exactly the right spot at each target and worked perfectly. The impact of those

00:03:32.800 bombs is buried under a mountain of rubble in Iran. So anyone who says the bombs were not devastating 0.99

00:03:37.720 is just trying to undermine the president and the successful mission. Now, our sources did

00:03:44.240 emphasize here that there was severe damage that was done largely to the above ground structures at

00:03:50.340 these nuclear sites. And so there was damage done, of course, by these massive bombs. But the core

00:03:55.700 components of the nuclear program, we are told they are largely intact and it only set the program back

00:04:00.660 by a matter of months.

00:04:01.780 Israel says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe that

00:04:07.060 Iran is still committed to peace?

00:04:09.300 Yeah, I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it too. 0.71

00:04:12.800 Are you questioning if Israel was committed to peace?

00:04:14.540 Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of 1.00

00:04:19.180 which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. 1.00

00:04:24.520 You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours. You don't go out in the first hour and just drop

00:04:29.880 everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. 1.00

00:04:34.160 But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land,

00:04:39.960 that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.

00:04:46.220 You know what? We have we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so

00:04:51.800 hard that they don't know what the they're doing. Do you understand that?

00:04:55.660 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:05:08.640 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:05:13.840 I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.

00:05:20.100 I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:05:23.180 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go

00:05:26.700 to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a

00:05:34.400 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

00:05:41.740 country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:05:48.960 It's Tuesday, 24 June, the year of our Lord, 2025. Of course, a bombshell, no pun intended,

00:05:58.720 dropped this afternoon, predictably leaked by the deep state. Jack Posobiec, I think Kurt Mills is

00:06:04.580 going to join. We're going to have Sam Faddis in the morning. Jack Posobiec, let's make sure that we,

00:06:12.440 you know, the president's right now still in at the NATO meeting. I guess they just, I guess maybe they're

00:06:17.780 just breaking up. So he's got the whole fiasco with Ukraine and Zelensky, who showed up, who was 0.95

00:06:24.940 invited, that he's trying to lay hands on and make sure that we stopped the killing over in Ukraine,

00:06:30.780 the Russian-Ukraine war. This came out today, as you and I said it was going to happen. The deep state

00:06:37.000 came out. And this is what happens when you don't put out your own bomb, your own preliminary

00:06:43.000 battle damage assessment starting on Sunday morning, just as a first cut.

00:06:48.780 Jack, break this down for me. This is a CENTCOM. It's coming from CENTCOM, but obviously they

00:06:55.100 reported the combatant commanders on the intel side do have a, I guess, a lateral responsibility

00:07:00.160 to the DIA. DIA, actually, I think technically the leak came from there. What is your assessment of

00:07:06.980 their preliminary battle damage assessment, sir? Well, Steve, to be clear, we don't know exactly

00:07:13.800 where the leak came from yet. Caroline Levitt said that it came from a low-level staffer clearly

00:07:19.840 designed to undermine President Trump's mission, President Trump's successful achievement of the

00:07:25.060 commander's desired end state in his objectives with the operation over the weekend. But what we're

00:07:30.480 told at this point was that the initial battle damage assessment was done by CENTCOM and then was

00:07:37.060 handed off to DIA to create their larger assessment. So CENTCOM is collecting the intelligence. DIA,

00:07:45.160 of course, then is going to be working with NRO, Space Force, satellite assets to be able to determine

00:07:50.120 other pieces of that to then take a look down deep inside and give their best guess as to what has

00:07:56.240 going on. So the real question here, I think, is for the CENTCOM commander, and that's General

00:08:01.680 Carrilla, to come out and set the record straight on all of this, because it does seem like the initial

00:08:08.800 sourcing for this assessment went down to the combatant commander of CENTCOM. And CENTCOM, for

00:08:14.380 folks, is the parlance. That's the Middle East, right? With PACOM, we say Pacific and AFRICOM and EUCOM,

00:08:21.100 but CENTCOM means Central Command. That's your Middle East command. And this town, as we've been

00:08:26.560 saying here on War Room for a while, Steve, this is a CENTCOM town, Washington, D.C. The money flows

00:08:32.460 south from the CENTCOM commander, and that's General Carrilla. And so I haven't seen yet General Carrilla

00:08:38.220 come up and give a press conference. He did not speak very notably. He was there, I believe, at the

00:08:45.340 battle damage assessment on Sunday morning with Secretary Hegseth, as well as the chairman of the Joint

00:08:50.820 Chiefs. But he did not give his assessment as well. Look, we were told there'd be a couple of

00:08:55.600 days after this. And so now the fact that this has gone up so much, I think it's really behoovant on

00:09:01.880 General Carrilla to come forward and explain to the American people what exactly went down,

00:09:08.080 because this was a huge, huge mission for the American military, certainly in the wake of the

00:09:13.880 last big military operation being this, you know, the Houthis and then Afghanistan. So really something to

00:09:19.620 put Americans' trust and credibility back in the U.S. military. And we need to have that.

00:09:25.180 And America needs to hear from General Carrilla.

00:09:30.400 You know, so we started this, you had the, obviously the Saturday evening, I think 640

00:09:35.860 is when they started hitting all the way through our show. We announced it here live, Jack, you remember.

00:09:41.420 Then Pete Hegseth and General Raisin Cain gave the briefing at 8 a.m. Real America's Voice covered that live.

00:09:52.120 It was, and you and I noted, it was strange at the time that there was a detailed of the logistics

00:10:00.440 in the inner mechanisms of the actual strike itself, which was incredible. And you're at the scale,

00:10:07.140 the distance, the difficulty. The attack itself, Jack, and you know that as an intel officer,

00:10:14.780 there's nothing short of breathtaking. I think it behooves all of us. And we have called for this

00:10:22.280 now nonstop. Remember, I think they canceled, I think, I'm not actually sure, but I think they

00:10:27.860 canceled or delayed, not canceled. They pushed back what we talked to Senator Rand Paul about today,

00:10:33.380 which was the intel that drove this initially, right? How did all of a sudden this come out of

00:10:39.540 nowhere? I think everybody's got to take a deep breath. Clearly, you look at the strike. And President

00:10:45.920 Trump, who they gave him an assessment pretty quickly, said it's obliterated, at least to the

00:10:52.820 human eye, it looks obliterated. And there's all types of technologies, which you're going to talk

00:10:57.460 about, that get you there. But I think we have to go back to the beginning. Until you can tell the

00:11:07.340 battle damage assessment and what they got and what percentage, that's not the way these things are

00:11:13.280 done. What was the initial target package? What were the, what were the, the, the, the combatant

00:11:20.520 commanders and then the pilots all the way down through the chain, as you know, in intel and

00:11:25.380 particularly in air intel, and when you're using Tomahawks, this is where you start. This is the

00:11:31.600 package. This is what we're doing. This is one of the reasons, Jackie, you remember, I was startled and

00:11:35.800 said, we're using Tomahawks on one of them. They haven't been taken down by Israeli military yet,

00:11:40.920 by the, by the aircraft. Why are we using a 1970s technology? I mean, the Tomahawk missile

00:11:45.820 is a war horse for the fleet, but it's pretty shocking that that, those, a surface on the third,

00:11:52.800 really the third facility had not already been taken down. That's why, because you kind of look

00:11:58.220 at these strike packages. Don't we have to go back to the beginning? We have to go back.

00:12:04.120 Tulsi Gabbard and D&I have been pretty adamant that there's not really a change to what their

00:12:08.940 assessment is. CIA and, you know, another intelligence agency, probably Mossad, that's

00:12:16.540 what people are talking about from a different source, had information that drove a sense of

00:12:22.920 urgency that the initial assault had to be done. That was still, that's still the, and they said,

00:12:29.720 we have to do this because they're very close to getting a bomb. They're very close to weaponizing

00:12:35.320 this. This is so urgent. We have to go now. We have to go now. We have to go now. And the Israelis 1.00

00:12:40.720 did. So I'd like to know what was passed to the Americans from that, that gets us the target package

00:12:48.860 of, because you can't assess it until you actually see what the target package is. Am I correct on

00:12:54.540 that, Jack Vosovic? Well, Steve, that's right. And the target package would include the facility

00:12:59.980 itself. Obviously, Fordow is a known facility. The Iranians have had this for years. So this is 1.00

00:13:04.400 something that if you're the CENTCOM commander, you're coming up with strike packages all day

00:13:08.900 long for this and running tests again and again and scenarios as to what complete destruction would

00:13:16.300 look like versus partial destruction versus breaking its operational capabilities for using various

00:13:22.460 different types of munitions, ordnance, delivery vehicles. Obviously, the president, of course,

00:13:26.980 made the final call there, choosing the B-2 Spirit Bombers and the Bunker Busters. So the question,

00:13:32.540 though, of course, I think for a lot of people and look, I broke this earlier today on Human Events

00:13:37.740 Daily, Steve, but they said Mossad leadership, we got a report that Mossad leadership was on the phone

00:13:43.640 with CIA Director Ratcliffe earlier during these negotiations saying we're going to keep going,

00:13:49.140 we're going to keep going. And Ratcliffe had to drop the hammer and say, look, if you guys continue

00:13:54.100 to do this to counterman President Trump's call for the ceasefire, then we are going to cut off

00:13:59.500 intelligence sharing from our end to you. So we're going to sever this relationship right now.

00:14:05.180 Now that we broke that story, it's now going viral online between CIA, Mossad, all this

00:14:10.920 intelligence sharing. So a lot of people asking these questions right now correctly, I believe,

00:14:16.380 as to what exactly was going on. Of course, General Carrillo being the CENTCOM commander would have

00:14:21.740 liaison with CIA, as well as with Mossad. So the questions, I think, really need to be answered

00:14:28.500 by General Carrillo. Where did the intelligence come from? How did this happen? And how did this

00:14:34.520 get leaked?

00:14:36.980 Can you stick around for a minute, Jack? I realize it's a long day. I appreciate the audience.

00:14:40.680 I appreciate it. Kirk Mills is with us. Think about President Trump. After flying over there,

00:14:45.080 getting up at the old dark 30, having to deal with Netanyahu again, and all of this, he gets

00:14:49.560 there, he gets these huge, tough meetings about Ukraine, and now he's got this to deal with

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00:16:28.380 Here's your host, Stephen K.

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00:16:30.880 Okay, Kurt Mills is going to join us. Philip Patrick, there's a lot going on. Big announcement

00:16:37.180 out of, about the BRICS. POSO, but POSO, don't rush this. Before we get back to the bomb damage 0.61

00:16:44.580 or the battle damage assessment, at least the preliminary got leaked and we don't know how

00:16:48.960 accurate this is. It sounds like it's not particularly accurate with the deep state,

00:16:54.220 you know, some junior level leaking it. But tell me, you know, don't rush through it because

00:16:59.540 this is quite controversial. There is a real sense of, I would say, non-cooperation, to

00:17:06.780 be blunt about it, in the last 24 hours, is it not, Mr. POSOBIC, about President Trump

00:17:15.340 putting together this ceasefire. One of the reasons you should know that people I talked

00:17:20.460 to said President Trump put together the ceasefire was for the people of Israel. And

00:17:25.500 what do I mean by that? Yesterday, I'm told, was one of the worst days, if not the worst

00:17:29.520 day in this entire 12-day war. They were getting hammered. They're running out of ammo.

00:17:35.900 They miscalculated what the Persians would be able to hit them with. I understand in 1.00

00:17:42.080 Tel Aviv yesterday, it was quite horrific. And I'm not sure we've even got all the full

00:17:46.560 reports of how horrific it was on Israeli citizens. President Trump took that into consideration

00:17:51.980 in doing this with the Qataris. And now you're telling me there was limited cooperation

00:17:57.340 with Netanyahu's government. In fact, President Trump went to bed understanding they had a

00:18:02.960 package. They had a strike package. And President Trump said, as he said out there at the beginning

00:18:06.240 of the show, we played it now in the morning and here, that he said, hey, you just can't

00:18:10.340 go pound these people. We're going towards a ceasefire. And he thought he had an understanding

00:18:15.440 by Netanyahu. And he gets up and they pounded them. And that's why he went ballistic. You're

00:18:19.520 saying something that actually Radcliffe and Mossad, let's be blunt, have kind of a little

00:18:24.900 bit been hand in glove, right, in this whole situation. And particularly on this kind of

00:18:30.500 emergency, you know, they got new information and it's all coming from the CIA, which is

00:18:36.220 different than what DNI had. So give the audience one more time, take a deep breath, because this

00:18:42.200 is big. You're saying that when they told them, hey, we're going to stand down here because

00:18:46.020 President Trump's negotiating a ceasefire, the Mossad did not, they did not, they did not

00:18:51.980 snap to attention and salute, sir. Steve, Human Events is now reporting, according to two

00:19:00.100 individuals who were briefed on this phone call between Mossad leadership and CIA director

00:19:07.240 that Mossad had indicated to the Central Intelligence Agency that they intended to press forward with

00:19:15.520 various attacks, various strikes. We know these decapitation, assassination strikes that have

00:19:21.140 been going on and really indicative and emblematic of this 12 day war, certainly on day one, those

00:19:28.900 in that initial shock and awe of the first day. And the CIA director responded, say, wait a minute,

00:19:36.020 President Trump has called for a ceasefire. And that means that includes what anything that you have

00:19:43.220 on the ground that you can stop as of right now. Mossad indicated they wanted to push forward.

00:19:48.220 And the CIA director said, if this continues, that intelligence sharing, this was the warning that

00:19:55.640 intelligence sharing, this relationship will be severed after that point. And at that point,

00:20:01.240 they finally stood down, at least for now. So you're seeing this tension play out now, Steve,

00:20:06.320 between our intelligence service and Israel, Israel's intelligence service, the same way you saw it

00:20:11.620 between the prime minister and the president. A tense call. Another tense call.

00:20:16.960 Yeah, we're big. Yeah, we're big believers in each, you know, Israel first, America first, got it.

00:20:23.640 You got to do what's right for your nation. However, and let's be honest, it's not an ally. It's not an ally

00:20:29.060 situation. Netanyahu was not there for Soleimani. He backed out the last second. That's President Trump

00:20:35.640 will tell you that story all the time. We still don't have, we still, let's be bring up an unpleasant

00:20:40.860 topic. We still don't know about October 7th. That thing, Jack Posobiec, you and I were doing that

00:20:46.180 live here in the war room, you know, on the Saturday morning show when it occurred. And we had some of

00:20:52.080 those questions that have not been answered today. But, and understand, but when you're a protectorate

00:20:58.960 and the individual that is protecting you, the commander in chief of the United States,

00:21:05.320 when he says something, you should take it like a papal bull. He's not there to have a discussion.

00:21:10.380 And with his representatives like the CIA, and the Mossad's done an incredible job. I mean,

00:21:14.320 let's be blunt. On the first night, Jack Posobiec, that was not going for the nuclear,

00:21:20.520 the nuclear bomb program. So how do we know that? Nothing had been touched, essentially,

00:21:26.680 maybe some engineers, but nothing of the facilities had been touched until the evening of Saturday

00:21:32.320 evening on the strike, including the above ground, which took 30 Tomahawk missiles, which, you know,

00:21:40.600 that's 1970s technology, 1980s technology. So the Mossad, they've done a great job. They've

00:21:47.800 assassinated a bunch of people that have had kill squads. It's incredible. When President Trump

00:21:52.240 says, I'm doing a ceasefire, and that means we're going to stop killing people, and his CIA director

00:21:58.100 tells you that, we're not really looking for any back chat. It's called an order. The United States

00:22:05.900 runs the deal here. And this is what upsets me so much. We run the deal. If you don't like that,

00:22:10.940 then do it all on your own. Don't come for us, and don't come as a supplicant and ask for air

00:22:15.420 defense. Don't ask for the Arleigh Burke squadron to go to the eastern Mediterranean. Don't give us

00:22:22.000 a package, and we've got to find out this is why this intelligence, and I hear today, I think the

00:22:26.620 thing on Capitol Hill was canceled or pushed back. And it sounds like it's pushed back. One of the

00:22:31.440 reasons, Jack Posobie, because the battle damage assessment has been leaked, and we have no idea.

00:22:37.660 It's leaked, to be blunt, to make President Trump look bad. And it's leaked at this time. This is not

00:22:44.300 random the New York Times has it. It's not random the CNN has it, because they know in Europe they're

00:22:49.300 watching CNN, not MSNBC. And it's during his dinner, where he's trying to bench press these people

00:22:55.580 to make sure that we can put the guns down and bring the Ukraine fiasco that they all drove. 1.00

00:23:01.900 And the Fox people, like Mark, you know, Tel Aviv, Mark Levin, drove, now with two million

00:23:08.280 casualties. President Trump's got that, and now they leaked this, so that at the end of his dinner,

00:23:13.520 right, he doesn't give a moment's peace. Now he's got all of them, and all night long,

00:23:17.800 they're just going to be sitting there going, oh, nothing happened. This whole thing was,

00:23:21.420 you know, just Trump being a fantasy autocrat. When in fact, a lot happened, and it obliterated,

00:23:28.540 and you can see. But this is why it's so important, Jack Posobiec, to bring this intelligence forward

00:23:34.040 and know what we were starting with. What did we start with, and what do we have now?

00:23:37.840 Poso. Well, Steve, that's why I want to, and I think it would be incumbent on the CENTCOM commander

00:23:46.760 to come forward, and whether he's going to give that briefing behind closed doors, or in a way

00:23:52.160 where it can be declassified in a way. By the way, Steve, you remember, I was calling for the

00:23:56.260 declassification of these images as early as Monday morning, saying that, you know, the American people,

00:24:02.040 of course, want to see the incredible bravery and skill of their pilots. And I have no doubt

00:24:08.100 when President Trump says that this thing was completely obliterated, that it in fact was.

00:24:13.220 But at the same time, with my intelligence analyst hat on, there are real questions about the

00:24:18.620 technology. We want to see if the technology, how it worked, whether this was completely destroyed.

00:24:24.680 And by the way, not only that, but we want to know, were the centrifuges actually there?

00:24:29.880 Because this has been the big question of all of it. Have they been able, were they able to get

00:24:34.580 them out beforehand? Did they leave them in? What was there? What do we have left? Of course,

00:24:39.860 there's real questions about this. By the way, the IAEA, just as we're talking, Steve,

00:24:44.640 the IAEA says U.S. strikes on Iran were, quote, very damaging. The group found that two impact holes

00:24:52.860 from the U.S. strikes were above the underground. Remember, it's two bombs per hole,

00:24:56.820 were above the underground halls that had been used for enrichment as well as storage. So they're

00:25:03.500 basing their battle damage assessment just on the commercial imagery that's come out. Obviously,

00:25:08.960 the DIA and Central Command would have much more robust ability to discern what's there. But even

00:25:15.460 the IAEA says they aren't able to determine exactly what is left. And Steve, I think what's going on here

00:25:21.600 now is, look, we know that in the intelligence agencies and in the intelligence community writ

00:25:26.300 large, there's no love lost between them, President Trump, Secretary Hegseth, DNI Gabbard,

00:25:32.980 John Ratcliffe, all the rest are with CIA. And so they would do anything they can to undermine this

00:25:38.920 administration the same way that this same pit nest of vipers was doing the exact same in the first

00:25:45.660 administration. And of course, they're doing it while he's meeting with the NATO meters.

00:25:49.480 And you got Zelensky in there. He's up in a suit for the first time because you know he's going to

00:25:53.180 be pushing for that supplemental aid package for Ukraine and all the rest of it. It's clearly why

00:25:58.120 this leak was done now to undermine the president while he's abroad meeting with NATO.

00:26:05.120 Before I let you go, and I'm gonna get Kurt Mills here after the break, just to let you go.

00:26:10.280 This whole, the whole sense of urgency, I say the false sense of urgency, but the sense of urgency

00:26:16.340 came off of new intelligence that essentially the Mossad and CIA had that was different than what

00:26:22.400 our, the IC community as DNI represents otherwise. That includes CENCOM and DIA, defense intelligence.

00:26:31.580 That, that information drove a whole series of events, including a week later or 10 days later,

00:26:41.940 on Saturday, a massive strike, a coordinated strike of, of just epic proportions. I'd like

00:26:49.540 to see, we need to see that now more than ever, we have to understand that because that leads you

00:26:54.460 then to what exactly was accomplished of that. And that should come forward in some sort of

00:26:59.080 declassified mode immediately. And I'm of the opinion that when we see that, we're going to go,

00:27:07.820 hmm. Well, now, where is it that you had to start on Thursday night and do a sneak attack?

00:27:13.480 Where was that? Jack Posobiec, I know you get a bounce. Final thoughts, social media,

00:27:18.000 your, uh, human events daily has been on fire. This is in your wheelhouse, sir.

00:27:23.540 Well, thank you, Steve. I do appreciate that. And, uh, it's been, been burning the candle at both

00:27:27.520 ends a little bit here. So we're up at human events daily and humanevents.com. You can get all

00:27:31.820 the information on that report and more as we have it there. And, uh, Steve, as, as you can

00:27:38.440 imagine, I know you had, uh, you're, you're talking about the Kennedy center a little bit

00:27:42.340 earlier today. So tonight, I think I owe Tanya Tay a little bit. I was able to talk to, uh, some,

00:27:47.180 some folks and we got hooked up with some of those lame is tickets for tonight.

00:27:53.100 Uh, you guys have a good, you don't get enough nights out with the boys. So Tanya Tay,

00:27:57.740 who's spectator. Oh, no, no boys. It's just me and the missus. This is saying you guys get a date

00:28:03.120 night. Jack Posobiec on date. Jack, you have a great time. Thank you. Thank you for carving out

00:28:07.320 some time for the audience today. Appreciate you.

00:28:13.260 Philip Patrick and Kurt Mills. This can't get any more serious folks. Path to war and putting

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00:29:56.640 Kurt Mills joins us. Welcome back. Kurt Mills joins us. Birch Gold, the man from Birch Gold

00:30:02.040 is going to join us in a moment, Philip Patrick. I've asked him to come on today to kind of lay

00:30:05.420 everything out. Also talks about the BRICS. Huge news out of China that Xi may actually,

00:30:17.240 Xi may miss BRICS. And there's a lot going on in the Chinese Communist Party high command.

00:30:26.300 I think they made a decision, not a good time to be on a plane. We'll get to that in a moment

00:30:29.560 with our guy who is going to BRICS, Philip Patrick. So Kurt Mills, because this was a time leaked

00:30:38.420 by the deep state. Remember I told you three most powerful institutions, I'll leave the

00:30:44.660 courts aside for a second, but the three most powerful institutions that run the imperial

00:30:48.140 capital, the CIA, the Fed, and CENTCOM. CENTCOM is the muscle. The combatant commander, CENTCOM

00:30:55.760 is like a god on earth. You got Carrillo now. The initial information, that's why Caroline

00:31:02.520 Levitz, he became a very junior analyst. It started CENTCOM, got to DIA, and the deep state

00:31:07.680 leaked it on Trump and they timed it. They timed it for the most important. This is what

00:31:15.360 all the media in Europe is saying. This is the most important NATO summit. That's what

00:31:19.520 was scheduled for three days since the end of the Cold War. This one, because they're going

00:31:25.200 to determine Ukraine and so much else, geopolitically and geostrategically. So Kurt Mills, my argument

00:31:33.740 is that we don't know why we had to rush into war, right? And because we haven't been shown

00:31:42.120 that. And everything we know from D&I is that things were still normal course of business.

00:31:48.740 Netanyahu went on Brett Baer on Sunday night and said, yeah, there was a breakthrough, but it's

00:31:52.380 12 to 13 months away from a weapon. So it just doesn't. And so we don't know what President

00:32:00.260 Trump and what he signed off on in the strike, but they had a quick cut and it was obliterated.

00:32:05.920 And you can see that from even, you know, the International Atomic Energy Agency came out

00:32:13.200 and gave a pretty good report on just commercial based information. What is your theory of the

00:32:19.620 case here? Because folks, we can't, we're not going to have another Gulf of Tonking. Okay. Not

00:32:24.820 going to happen. That was before all alternative media and things like that. You're not going to

00:32:29.180 have a Gulf of Tonking. And we're not going to have a situation where they're running around

00:32:35.660 looking for scuds. We're not going to do the phony weapons of mass destruction where they lie

00:32:40.440 to your face, bald face. We're not going to let that happen. And that's why we're like a dog

00:32:47.140 with a bone with this. We've got to go back to those days and you must get the information. You

00:32:51.000 must get the receipts and the American people must understand this still keeping from sources and

00:32:56.700 methods. If there's got to be some classification, that's fine. But there's a lot of this information

00:33:00.720 we let out. So Kurt Mills, what is your theory of the case, sir?

00:33:06.700 Yeah. So, I mean, basically, you know, they're calling this the 12 day war, but I, you know,

00:33:12.580 I think it actually technically is the 11 day war. And so we have seen a case now where the

00:33:17.820 Israelis moved first. Some of the early strikes were awesome. And since the little sense of the 0.99

00:33:23.840 word, they evoked awe, they seemed attractive. And I think the president was frankly sympathetic

00:33:30.420 to the glamour of them. Then there was a strong pushback, in my opinion, by MAGA, by the base,

00:33:37.860 by this program, by others, Tucker Carlson, et cetera, et cetera. And I think the president

00:33:42.440 took in the full raft of information. And then he eventually moved last Saturday in the direction

00:33:49.540 that he was always going to move, which is that he was going to do the strikes on

00:33:54.560 the Iranian nuclear sites. I do wonder, though, as the reporting is trickling in, and as the frankly,

00:34:02.200 just open bad faith of the Israeli government led by Netanyahu is made manifest that they didn't want

00:34:07.840 to honor the ceasefire. I do wonder if the fuller picture of what has transpired,

00:34:12.420 just transpired, is coming into view, which is, and there was a report just, you know,

00:34:17.200 it came over the wire 30 minutes ago about a defense intelligence agency report that said that,

00:34:23.880 you know, even if all of the nuclear sites were destroyed, which I think remains an if,

00:34:28.420 respectively to the White House, even if they were destroyed, the Iranians would basically be able 1.00

00:34:32.860 to rebuild this capacity in a matter of months, which was the assessment of many independent

00:34:38.720 experts and analysts even before these strikes. So it is setting up the situation in which the

00:34:44.420 nuclear issue, the striking nuclear facilities is a false issue. It doesn't actually solve the problem

00:34:52.100 for either side. For those who want to avoid war, this was an unnecessary tactical move. And for those

00:35:00.000 who want war, I think the tell is already in it. They're already upset today. The Marklevins of,

00:35:06.760 you know, in theory, they got what they wanted. They got the president of the United States to bomb

00:35:12.280 the Iranians on behalf of a foreign government. And when Trump brokered a ceasefire, they screamed

00:35:17.800 bloody murder because the nuclear issue is not really the issue here. I think it should be negotiated.

00:35:23.680 I don't think Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. And I think that offer is at the table 1.00

00:35:28.060 right now, which is why Israel intervened in this conflict in the first place, to stop a peace

00:35:33.300 accord.

00:35:35.820 Let me through that again. You're saying that the nuclear bomb making and all that is not,

00:35:43.040 was not the purpose. And that's one of the reasons we haven't seen, and there haven't been any,

00:35:48.560 it hasn't been any even leaks to the media about what, what drove the urgency, right? Before we got

00:35:56.360 to the upsell. Because that's not really what this was about. That was a misdirection play, is what

00:36:02.320 you're saying, correct? And that's where the CIA and the Mossad come in?

00:36:06.280 Look, I think there is Israel. I think there's the Israeli government. And then there's this Israeli 0.76

00:36:10.400 government led by this prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. And what we know about Benjamin Netanyahu is that

00:36:15.240 he has been claiming about an imminent Iranian nuclear program since at least the time that he was

00:36:21.700 UN ambassador in the early 90s. He said the Iranians would have a nuke within five years. He has been

00:36:26.840 claiming that it is just on the horizon for his entire political career at this point. It is a, it is a fake

00:36:36.300 issue insofar as the Israelis' goal, the prime minister's goal, is regime change in Iran. It is very

00:36:44.640 hard to say that openly. And so they obsess over, or they get the American public, they get the Murdoch

00:36:51.900 empire, they get the Republican establishment, they get an audience of President Trump to obsess over

00:36:59.140 the nuclear issue. But once the nuclear issue itself is taken off the table, they keep moving

00:37:04.500 the goalposts. The Iranians at the beginning of these negotiations, look, not trying to do the

00:37:10.040 Iranians any favor here. But the Iranians came in with a certain amount of weakness. And they said, 1.00

00:37:15.380 look, we will agree to no nuclear weapon. In fact, even if you don't believe them, the supreme leader

00:37:20.160 has a fochball on nuclear weapons. They basically don't want their enemies in the region to have them 0.77

00:37:25.320 either. So they're comfortable putting it off the table. Then the goalposts got moved to what?

00:37:30.040 Zero enrichment. The Iranians weren't allowed to enrich any uranium, even a very low amount,

00:37:37.260 because that was going to be an impossible demand or near impossible demand for the Iranians to meet.

00:37:43.100 And so once we reached to day 61, the Israelis spectacularly intervened to enforce a fake deadline 0.96

00:37:51.820 to a negotiation that they weren't party to. There were only two parties in this negotiation,

00:37:57.380 Iran and the U.S. and the Israelis intervened to, quote, enforce the U.S. side. And, you know,

00:38:04.280 that's what caused this crisis. And I think Trump, you know, this morning, in the full totality of

00:38:10.360 events, a little bit in the rear view, hopefully, has seen what has happened. And you saw him snap.

00:38:15.820 You saw him snap on the White House lawn. He said, I'm not happy with Iran or Israel, but he really,

00:38:22.140 really reserved his ire for Netanyahu. He seemed disgusted with the bad faith. And frankly, the fact

00:38:29.000 that, I mean, it was pretty astonishing. They announced the ceasefire, but the ceasefire went

00:38:33.260 into effect several hours later. And it was like the armistice day in World War I. The deal was signed

00:38:39.140 in the 4 a.m. hour and they were like World War I generals insanely throwing men over the lines to get

00:38:45.860 more killing done before 11-11. That's what it was. And that's who we're dealing with right now with the

00:38:50.840 current government in Jerusalem. The deep state's stepping in here, too. You can see this. This

00:38:59.380 whole leak now is to try to jam up President Trump. And they're going to, they're still looking for,

00:39:04.840 they have not given up. They're still looking for any, because you can see Levin and these guys,

00:39:09.700 the Fox News guys, they're apoplectic that President Trump has stopped here and wanted to

00:39:14.960 ceasefire and says, hey, there's no more war. It's a 12-day war. End of story.

00:39:19.560 What do you anticipate? What choice are they trying to force, sir?

00:39:25.620 Well, just to underline it again, that shows you the nuclear issue. It's fake in a certain sense,

00:39:30.600 right? Like Trump took it off the table and now they're losing their minds because he doesn't care

00:39:35.200 about regime change or anything else. What they are trying to force here is regime change. That is

00:39:41.360 what they want. And additionally for Netanyahu, I think he wants the crisis to just keep going

00:39:47.640 because he needs this spectacular state of exception in order for him to remain Prime

00:39:53.840 Minister of Israel. He needs a war footing. He needs his own population docile and fearful 0.97

00:39:59.580 and terrified for the prospects of their own lives in order to keep voting for somebody who has this

00:40:05.660 level of political liability and frankly is stale in the Israeli cast of mind. He has been around,

00:40:11.300 as I mentioned, on the national scene since the early 90s. They're sick of him. And so he needs a

00:40:16.040 crisis to keep this going. I'm not submitting that his successor, the most likely successor is his

00:40:20.760 predecessor, Naftali Bennett, wouldn't be a conservative hawk, wouldn't be an Israeli hardliner,

00:40:26.380 wouldn't perpetuate the war in Gaza in some fashion. I think he would. But there wouldn't

00:40:30.900 be this level of intermingling with the U.S. political system. Netanyahu is, in some senses,

00:40:37.580 more interspersed into the American system than, you know, he is with the Israeli system. And it is this,

00:40:44.040 you know, weird, incestuous relationship. I mean, when Netanyahu addresses Congress,

00:40:50.120 many times Republicans and Democrats both look at him like he is more and above the President of the

00:40:56.920 United States. That is not America first. That is not nationalistic. That is pretty gross and it

00:41:04.040 should be dismissed. Well, I think it is going to be dismissed because now this is serious. You put

00:41:11.040 all those people in harm's way. You obliterated what was there, what told the packages, and now

00:41:16.620 it's being leaked. And you wait till tonight. It's going to be a firestorm. And President Trump's

00:41:20.300 dealing with Ukraine, trying to get out of this Ukraine mess. And now he's got this on top of it, 0.97

00:41:26.800 got to come back. I mean, there's never a second, never a second. There's not ultimate pressure

00:41:32.080 on him. Real quickly, Kurt, before we bolt, any thoughts on the Ukraine? Zelensky's there,

00:41:37.840 and I think he's actually in a suit. This is the most important. We got about a minute

00:41:42.580 and a half. Most important NATO meeting since the end of the Cold War. Your thoughts?

00:41:47.580 Well, just off the top, I thought it was humorous that Trump basically said that the Israeli demands

00:41:52.300 were so extreme that he can't wait to deal with NATO, whose extreme demands are less extreme.

00:41:58.120 Obviously, they are. I think with the Russia-Ukraine situation, it exists within the shadow of Iran. 0.89

00:42:05.080 I mean, I was in Europe last week or the week before, and this is basically what people wanted

00:42:09.600 to talk about. And the reality here is if the US got involved into Iran war, the Ukrainians would be 0.90

00:42:16.700 thrown into a wood chipper. So the Russians and the Iranians are allies, but the European thinking on

00:42:21.360 this, frankly, is often so blinkered and emotional. If the US put all of its resources into the Iran fight,

00:42:27.720 we don't have the materiel and attention span to do both, and Zelensky would be in big trouble.

00:42:34.200 So I think that's what you see there. And then I know you always try to link for the audience to China.

00:42:40.020 I don't know if this report's been covered on this program, but there was a report within the last

00:42:44.820 couple of days of four Chinese ships basically going off radar and disappearing near Iranian land space.

00:42:52.600 And there's great speculation that if the US got back, if it got pulled into an Israeli war with Iran,

00:43:00.600 that the Chinese would try to turn this into our Ukraine, which is to say we wouldn't lose,

00:43:07.700 but we, like Vladimir Putin, would just be drawn into a quagmire in which all of our state capacity was exhausted.

00:43:13.760 And I think that's the danger here. That's the danger of these wars of choice. The Ukraine war is a

00:43:19.200 Democrat war of choice, but the Iran war is the Republican war of choice.

00:43:24.340 Kurt, social media, where do they go to get you?

00:43:27.260 Sure. The magazine, theamericanconservative.com, and my own channel is at Kurt Mill, C-U-R-T, 0.52

00:43:35.040 M-I-L-L-S on X. Appreciate the time.

00:43:37.580 Kurt, fantastic. Short commercial break. We're going to talk about the bricks in the world with

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00:45:04.500 Okay, welcome back. Philip Patrick joins us. Philip, first of all, we're going to talk about

00:45:10.860 the BRICS in a moment. Give us your assessment that the markets have been, I'm not saying this

00:45:14.620 is a yawn, but they've taken this in stride, both in gold and oil and the stock market.

00:45:20.580 Is it because they don't think this is real? They think President Trump sorted it out enough?

00:45:26.360 What's your assessment?

00:45:28.120 I think it was the Iranian response, right? Everyone was sort of waiting to see how the

00:45:32.200 Iranians responded. The big concern was that, as they said, they were going to shut the

00:45:37.180 Straits of Hormuz, which would send oil prices globally skyrocketing. By bombing a U.S. base

00:45:43.020 in Qatar, it was a much more measured approach from the Iranians. And I think financial markets 0.52

00:45:48.200 welcome that. Obviously, oil prices dropped. I think it was 11%, 12% in a day. Gold dropped a little

00:45:54.360 bit as well. But again, this is short term. This is the market saying, look, it didn't escalate

00:45:59.720 beyond where it needed to be at this point. But it's, as you were discussing earlier, this

00:46:04.940 thing isn't done yet. We have to see how it's going to escalate.

00:46:10.280 Is, are the markets taken in because they also don't seem to be fully factoring in yet? Is that

00:46:18.260 because it's off the front page, given everything that's happening in D.C., the big, beautiful bill?

00:46:23.680 We know the big, beautiful bill markets poorly because of its name. People just think it's

00:46:28.040 a, it's a, it's a laundry list of things, right? So, so the term itself has got some negativity

00:46:34.560 to it, not associated with President Trump. But we had Rand Paul on this morning, the senator,

00:46:39.360 and he said, look, you know, this thing he thinks is going to get to the president's desk

00:46:43.380 by the fourth, but he says, there's still some big fights. Number one for him is going

00:46:46.780 to be the debt ceiling. He just says, look, if we pass five trillion, we're going to go

00:46:51.040 to five trillion pretty quickly. Are the markets not taking the, because of everything focused

00:46:56.300 on this war, that they're not, that they're not calculating in some of the, I mean, the

00:47:03.380 spending here is pretty big. And Ron Johnson has not been able to rally enough interest in

00:47:10.200 the town to really have some massive cuts. So you're still going to have these deficits,

00:47:15.080 sir. Look, the markets have a very short attention span. And like you said, I think things right now,

00:47:23.220 the focus is on what's happening on the, in the Middle East and how that will escalate and how

00:47:27.680 that will affect international trade. What is being affected is, is currency markets, right? And this

00:47:33.640 has been started with Biden, right? Demand for U.S. debt has started to wane, but it's been escalating

00:47:39.760 since Trump's been in office. And I think sort of the real hope for financial markets was Trump

00:47:45.840 would address deficit spending. They're trying to do it through growth, but this bill, obviously,

00:47:50.720 as we know, increases deficits and it's led to an escalation in de-dollarization. I think financial

00:47:56.840 markets, like I said, they've got a short attention span. Once this comes in and gets voted on,

00:48:02.360 we might start to see the markets or financial markets reacting more directly.

00:48:07.480 If this bill passes as roughly it is, will this continue the path for de-dollarization,

00:48:15.820 both in Europe and in Asia, those say, hey, we want to, we want to be stuck with as few dollar

00:48:22.600 denominated securities as possible?

00:48:25.840 Look, it's hard for me to say it because like I said, I support President Trump and,

00:48:31.580 you know, I believe in his ability to grow the economy longer term. But the question has always

00:48:37.020 been time? My answer is yes, right? Obviously, if we expand deficits, it makes our debt more

00:48:44.540 attractive at an international level and it will ultimately accelerate de-dollarization longer

00:48:50.060 term. We have to remember what we're banking on here is not guaranteed and that is economic growth.

00:48:56.440 The one thing that is guaranteed is this additional debt burden as it grows, as the interest on the debt

00:49:03.100 grows, as we start to print money to meet debt liability. That's a debt trap. And that's not

00:49:09.460 attractive for foreign investors. Factor in sort of weaponization, all the tricks that Biden played.

00:49:16.620 You know, once you fire that bullet, you can't put it back. So it's the perfect storm right now for

00:49:22.740 de-dollarization. I don't think expanding the deficit is going to help our case domestically

00:49:28.180 out of war, unfortunately. Okay. When Scott Besson says this is the last shot for a supply side

00:49:34.780 method to solve the financial and economic problems of the country, what he's saying,

00:49:41.900 the debt to deficit, I think, is close to six and a half, seven percent. He said you've got to get

00:49:46.600 that down to three. I think Ray Dalio concurs with that. We've been talking about that now for over a

00:49:51.660 year, how Biden didn't do it. It's six and a half, seven, maybe even higher.

00:49:54.520 What Besson and President Trump are doing on the supply side, they are basically betting on or

00:50:04.140 assuming or looking at math in these models. And that's why I think the model has got to be put

00:50:08.720 out more. I think we need more math, more backup to these models. They're saying we're actually

00:50:13.900 through the supply side tax cut, we will grow the economy. We will grow GDP at a higher percentage

00:50:21.260 than we'll grow the debt or the deficit and debt. And that will pay down. Then the deficit will start

00:50:25.800 coming down because we'll have more tax revenues, even at the lower tax structure. Is that essentially

00:50:32.540 the bet we're making collectively here?

00:50:36.820 That is exactly the bet we're making. It is a tough one. Listen, since the 70s,

00:50:43.200 debt has averaged eight and a half percent growth a year. GDP's averaged a little over three percent.

00:50:48.540 So, you know, we would have to massively boost GDP in order for that to happen.

00:50:55.100 There's a lot of things. Listen, these guys are smarter than I am, right? And you said putting

00:51:00.040 the modeling forward is a smart thing. I agree with that vehemently. For me, I struggle to see how we

00:51:06.880 do it. You know, I say all the time, we're 25 percent of the world's GDP. We attract 60 percent of the

00:51:12.500 world's capital. We are prime. We are not an emerging market. To grow at this level from where

00:51:18.540 we are is a tough task. I've said it before. There isn't a better team to do it. But, you know,

00:51:25.000 without dramatic changes, it's going to be difficult. That's why I think, and again, this is

00:51:29.520 not my area of expertise, but this AI race may be crucial here, right? Because whoever gets there

00:51:34.940 first, I think, can grow exponentially. There's a lot of things benefiting us. The US has incredible

00:51:40.480 natural resources. We're very blessed by geography. Longer term, I'm rooting for the US. How this

00:51:46.660 shapes out short to medium term is tough. But that's the gamble. That's always been the gamble.

00:51:52.480 Okay. Philip, can I hold you just for a minute or two through the break into the second hour?

00:51:59.440 Because I do want to get back to this, to the situation with the BRICS and particularly the

00:52:03.880 Chinese finance minister talking about an alternative, right? And now that she is 0.88

00:52:10.400 said, hey, I've met with Lula a couple of times and it sounded like, hey, Lula's on board with

00:52:15.360 whatever we want to do. So we're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to leave you

00:52:19.340 with the right stuff. It's that kind of day. It's a hot, miserably hot June day, late afternoon

00:52:28.640 when it really gets hot and muggy here in Washington, D.C. in the Imperial Capital. I think 100 today?

00:52:32.920 Close to 100, over 100 tomorrow. Miserable. Feels like a July or August here in the Imperial Capital.

00:52:40.620 Philip Patrick, he's not sweltering here in this seat. He's living large. Short commercial break.

00:52:48.420 The second hour will be as lit as the first. Stick around. You're in the war room.

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Bannon's War Room - June 24, 2025

Episode 4584： Was Iran's Nuclear Program Was A Misdirection Play

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